"Als Priester mit der Kirche brechen" mit Thomas Laufmöller
Der Weg nach seinem Theologiestudium ist für Thomas Laufmöller klar: Im Mai 1994 findet seine Priesterweihe statt. Dass ihm ausgerechnet das Gehorsamkeitsgelübde, welches er an diesem Tag ablegt, später ungeheure Gewissensbisse bereitet, ahnt er zu diesem Zeitpunkt noch nicht.
Jahrelang wirkte Thomas in der St.-Stephanus-Gemeinde in Münster, (Schul-) Seelsorge und Gemeindearbeit sind seine Berufung. Doch die Konsequenzen der landesweit steigenden Kirchenaustritte treffen auch ihn: Im Oktober 2020 informiert man Thomas über seine Versetzung und die Zusammenlegung der St.-Stephanus-Gemeinde. Binnen zwei Wochen soll er außerdem das Pfarrhaus räumen. Seine Versetzung, die der Gemeinde lediglich in einem Bischofsbrief bekanntgegeben wird, wird von großen Protesten begleitet. Knapp drei Jahre später folgt der endgültige Bruch: Man entzieht ihm seine letzte große Herzensaufgabe, die Schulseelsorge. Infolgedessen bittet Thomas den amtshabenden Bischof um die Entpflichtung aus seinem Priesteramt. Dieser Schritt wird ohne große Regung zur Kenntnis genommen, was Thomas noch einmal in seiner Entscheidung bestärkt. Sein Glaube an Gott bleibt unerschütterlich – nur an die Institution glaubt er nicht mehr.
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The hatred, but this
is the
prison. I would like to
know what
completely.
I
think I have this podcast
and
now this moment
of
the world.
My health
comes from a beer,
other things,
Thomas Laufmann is
a priest in the catalog.
But this
is
a Rolex and Europe
with Thomas Spreichen. And now when you
say that, I would
say that Thomas
is
interested in that field
and
compromise those.
We started this
moment that is not in the
gun for
the first time, so this moment would be
the bishop of Munster, so that for
the first time, that
priestly.
we have to do is to be able to do
it in
my
priest,
and that is not three
in this brooch.
What
is this moment for
me? This
is
the same thing. So, the kundigung waippes a lengthy.
So, I think
2000
structure,
and
a person,
with a
lot of people can't.
And we also
consult,
with the
Emmanuel, and that we
can
Can you see the fuel in the moment? Why does this
hat? We have this angel fuel, yes, to
do it. So, this is
why
with the bishops, so that we
have the general
and the personal.
And that's what we're a
thing
where that
was
the challenge in the morning.
We
have also
the grunt,
so we have to
job
their glue.
That is proof also
for
people who are
not the all-normal job, and I think
we
have
this proof of combat. So, what we understood,
and what
we
did.
So, this is a minor kind of
thing.
I mean, in my
liberal priest,
pastoral referendum, innovative,
the priest with mention,
with Kaplan, Hamilton, Jung,
and that without
this.
So the
Burch, the Buddha had not interested, I know, know
therefore, and that studio,
and in the
site,
we also
have
students, what,
also meditative, and cognitive
and global with
it. And that
was a site where I
was
addressing design, but also
students, and I
Boromium,
that we
have
the
Boromium
and Cookmal Worthington.
And what
I'm going to say is that we
have been non-dependent,
and I think
that I
can't do it.
Yes, my
growth
organization and Kusta also decision
from Mamma, what
is
it, and what
we
have with Erasmus.
And we have to decide
what kind of fund
Russia and Zenuch orders together.
So, I
think
this world is not
a very important thing.
That is all in the corruption, that mention of the community, that mentioned with the message,
that
mention the atmosphere.
So,
we have no
priests, and that
is
also
a constitution
for
us. Then, the
mention of the
middle,
and we will immediately
form
the authoritarian, the
motivation, and that we
have a
feeling
of open sustainable. I was
priestable, but I was
integrating in the mindset. It has to do with new
theology studios,
not abiturate,
okay, I marked it. Maybe
that can be
in the studio
interesting. I would
say I would priestly.
I
think
what
I
integrated,
but that
Arthur
July.
So we have
to
do it. So I have the studio
music and theology that
we have. And in the studio, what we have to do is also.
also
myself, or that there are
two
battles.
Yeah, I
think in the Jungle side, but
also
so I can't
tell you what?
Yes, that is
why
young people. I have to
speak, I must
run. I
would
also like to
study,
and
we are also
in the message,
so we
are also speaking, and
then
also
what
I
mentioned
with the children, so
that
we can speak.
It is the word
of the suffering,
is that normal
and
pristine?
Yeah,
the fragmentation of
the market, where the star is a family
and kind of
the fragment
in the studio and in the studio. But also we
have the studium of
Zorook and
Gest in this
cookie
also and then
also why I
von Freibuch.
So, what we
have
to do for Europa, when I mentioned 10 kilometers.
So, what
a wiring
pastor
would have.
And that
would be
be
a family.
I was then
priest,
so it is done in Gulf.
What
does it feel?
Yeah, also.
That is
good for you. I think that's what I
practice in Falstaff, I have a wonderful
thing.
We have
to
go out and
liberate,
we have
a
lot of people, we had a
site, we had fair lags, we had a beginning order, and that was poorer and
the same thing. I had that
also
a gun,
a priest of
mention,
the offensive,
their
barriers,
also,
and liberal men,
that
also
when we
come
to mind,
also
conservative structure than that
we
come
then.
Yeah, in Hazard,
and
that's what
I passed. So, this is
also a
glutton, can't clean what
is
that.
So, I have
And I would
say,
and
a cadaver.
And the children.
What
is this?
So this this is a good thing to
do, but
we
have to
do this to the auction, that
we have the fuselage.
I must
say, why
not?
I think
we have
to do it.
are
doing in the mind that video,
video,
yeah, totally. I mean,
we have the great situation
in liberal tube, but
I would say the priest of Monksworth,
yeah.
Yes,
you
mentioned
the burger.
that I had a minor wonderful
idea of
the
URL
and
we can't
also
have
Canst what
do you think?
But you
also
have to do it. So, I think
a mentor
a Jesus is
that
we mentioned
and
I
feel
so interested. I
in the agenda
the
music, I was
with the farm from
Schulefa thank you. And that's that's that's my lame, this
is a good priest.
And we have
to
say,
I
don't know what character character of Pristan.
My niece stays in the oubia.
But when a
dash can
also mention
that I can't, and
what is that,
what is not
an identity.
Ichlawdaschen is
in
Prison,
is that what
we
need to do
and
the problem?
This is why
the problem of the
hardware
is that
after
three
minutes,
in Munster,
what
is
a mind?
That would be a process. I
think
meting
the Schulze or other friends.
And that's why we have nothing to do with
the personal book, so
that's why it is
not
a great
and also.
I have no bedene then,
so we have
to also thought, yeah, you
And that is my
merger and
the same thing.
that is all
right.
And that
is a book,
anthropology, and
theology.
So, a
fraud that would
be
Romani Turtle. But we have
also
been
people
in the pause in the
middle
of contact.
And we
have also
in my
situation,
I mean, it is
a very important thing. That
is contacted to
school and
also
when
and
all that.
That's a wonderful
thing that
2005.
And there are two
clicks of the
other. And that would be
that the music is a very good thing. That
Schuler
method
can
be
done, that is.
That is true.
And
I
think
that is my personality.
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I win
in the Stephen Gemini, then has to do with the School of Marketing, which is inside and
has to do with normal and whatever.
The study of the tram job at sales is
also
in the
past and good and
that a lot of people
But
what
we discussed in
Burke, why
does
it mean in Munster that
Stephanie
is a XXL Gross
that
we end up in?
And
I would
compromise.
I wonder in the priestly,
the
priest, the answer to the priest, also
the manual.
And that's why
we
also
pastoral.
And we
have
the priest
in a
way. My compromise was
a dream in the
house,
the
be able to do it. And a monarch
in the annange.
So, I went
to
the niche wolf. And Lisman Michael,
we
can't see
him
and so in Wickel.
So, as he
exploited that
coordinate,
and
yet this is not a problem. And the fragments
of Ganza and Wicklong
then von Fusion
pastoral
situations,
but not greater than
a priest.
That is what Uber
and Munster is
or pastoral
is.
The critic is not also,
or
priests
and also
when I
spread
a fatra.
It is not
and that
when I
also
miss
this,
whatever.
And I wanna
go to the end, and that
wins and
thousands of catalogs that are also
in the middle of
a half-million.
The other
benchmarks when Susan, as a quasi-geme.
Kierchen, Catochul, bibliotic, or tagunsois, werden geschlossen, damit solgeworden. Thomas critic is for all the person
contacts
in
the world, or the priest and
the niche
nachomken.
It
is not a aspect of the battery,
the key spatial
is the kind of
sofa dimension that
When I got
in the Stefan,
then what
dimension of
this kind of
thing? No, the Looks out.
But I went in the dimension of the
world.
And I spent
all the time in January House.
Man, in Freud, Manchima in Leiden,
Manchester
I won't
be able to do it. And that can
be
a
wonderful
message, that mother zooming out. I think
it messes.
And then we have
this
problem in the middle.
And even
in Stefan Zoofield,
I have to say, think
the Messiah was
a bad
and that was good.
And that
allows you to do it. I think
what the alternative
problem
is,
I would mention
this,
the key of half
a week?
We
are also
talking about
it, but
I would not say that.
So, my
question is,
what
mentioned in our
mind?
And the
immerse or
something that is not
the Eucharist.
That
is a week that mentioned
Francis Bischoff,
a key
mention of a
game, I think, whatever it is.
But a
lot of people, and the
in the level that
we have.
And if there is an alarm signal, that
in the corona side
is
not a problem. Yeah, that is what
the gross faraway would be ordinary
and routine, or the routine to those
good
points.
And that is not and that is natural
that in black on
the
independent.
And there are
natural
mentioned
the husband
and
Miss Braun
and
the Siddhania
also
in schlimps
is the institution.
But this is my
personal.
That is
a critic point and formula also
not this
and what the reaction that
is
so.
I
mentioned
anything.
The fragments
of criticism.
When
the Andrea Stummy, the general spiker, in the
Book of Ich Music Rauss,
so the
normal formula
is also normal and
that we
are then
formed.
That is the
we
are in October 2020, that also
is a very important thing. So, I would say that the personality
that
Stefan Oskemein
was but then Zip
Nest
in Schulichen,
what
is also formulated,
and
then 3%
of Wolf is
not.
In
this
form,
what is
the moment for you? Yeah, that's what
totally
is. And this would be
more
than
that, the
That
the Uber dashed most of the time.
That's why we have the
same thing. The other week,
and
we have to do it.
We have to
do this. the middle.
But it is
similar, and then I
personally
adventure in the mind,
and have nothing to do with
the bishops.
But
the dimension,
and then
a brief bishop.
protest action,
demos, skipped out,
briefly and then bischoffs and
officials that are
going to be able to do it. So, we
are going to
be
able to
do that normal for the
fight from Thomas Laufmann, but
the priest
but that
priest for
the temporary
priest,
or
the waxen digestion, what
also
priests
with
the men. But it can be
done,
And I also
have a Stephanie Gerhard, and here was automatic.
And then
it was
also
diffusion block. There was
an
article
in Spiegel, and it is
the premium
In Grossman, we also
have a
Timan der Kumata and all kindergarten, the Grosswara.
This thing is so much
better. While
we kinder here in kindergarten,
this
is not why my farage
is also
the kindergarten. And there is a great
thing
within
the microphone,
so priest or pastoral,
so
there is
a lot of people who are in the middle of the day. And I this
aufame.
So,
that I think
in Pulse, not Albert Warren,
kindergarten,
so Hinzukom,
that was
a country,
then first,
or the Monadheim, and then this kind of thing. And that
pastoral
has to
be
so weird?
Yes, so I would
say
that the empire
in them
is
okay. Okay, but this is
the
first time to
hinder
them fall, that is why
with a wonderful
thing, but what
in the
world? That is the most
important,
the far house. Yeah, and that
is
the merger of this
institution.
And that was my own point in this
brutality,
and then this situation where
the protests in the mind
of 2010.
So we
have to
do the
same
thing that I know the car and
the label. So in 2009, we have a house, that is
a wonderful
thing,
the war
note,
and not
angry.
Had nothing. In Trussia, the protests were not
these protests.
Thomas Laufmann
can protest
and
say that it
is many,
and they
also
get
many
men were
in principle that
the aufrich and
the
club just
in the garnish allowed
me to be
in 2014
that
normal rights and
the same thing. So, I think that
fatality is without
it.
That
institution is in the brutality,
and we have the same
thing. We have
an opportunity to
normalize the point
of the reception,
critic
and the
institution
or whatever.
So, what stirs institutions are
the same?
So, if
you now
in the side
that
marks also
relatively, or
not.
In a democratic,
and then when
you can
priest or bishop,
yeah, then that is a bishop or
a
fear.
And I have also
made this priest.
and when
the priest is a yard, I need to orient it. So, we need to
priest note.
And that one
that her
aunt is going to be. Then not that
solib,
but
that's not a free. freestyle.
Absolutely. So all the
form is when we
have a lot of people who are not going to be able to do that.
That was the key
issue.
And
I hope that
the
fragment is not
here or
in families. The fragment is
a
gender and the benefit of the dimension. Absolutely.
That is not and a line for the
world.
And also
the order of the market. Absolute.
So
you
can also
completely
get it. Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. And I would
say
when
the
war and the fruit in the hurricane,
we
come out in the
misbroch.
But
the greater
And then
we
have a
catalog with the
scandal,
there's no
person.
It must feel that
desire
to
be a mantra
that have compassion with
mid-line, mid-fuel, mid-game.
So, I
need
to fuel in that mental angle.
This is
mentioned
and
that prisoner
is the hatman for
the
merchants we can relieve.
We
have
to do it. And I have not
mama and papa trend. And we have also
in the puppet war,
That is mitigation,
but what I want to do is
not
clear or
a straightforward.
That is also
the same thing. Yes, or
Yeah, but
this
is
an extra recharge.
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Yeah, so
you can see it and
I think it's a very good question.
We are
going to send dine.
So,
we can
see that
a
lot of people are
globally.
And we will immediately say, that we also
have a greater view. And I have
the other priest
and
the stem.
And from this priest,
in
the best
way to
do that,
there is a lot of people and so on. But
that
means
that so many
people. And that's why we're going to
energy
and
also
But
that was the
work and
then probe.
But this is a farm, that comes with
the water, and I
would
say with
the patchwork families, that was
aunt, and we
were
able to
do it. That was
Dunkel, and that was
not
another situation. And that was the
way that
we had
to.
And that was also
the
bishop,
that we
had him.
That
was a very important thing in
statement of Stephen Haskell,
Hasabitine for
the same time.
And we
also
have
Zybtichen
via Friedenschule.
And yet also
Professor Dr. Matthias Zellmann had the studio
and
the priest for
the constellation of the Holzutag Image.
A problem is in the person
of the world, but
in the art and we have
to do it. The
Führer
and Schein with settings and the modern
world. She also
has the
reform,
even
wander here.
Professor Zelmann lighted the negative
priest,
even
the
end.
That
feels like the studio is an intensive
work, and Iroll here formal Ausfield.
For the studio
and
also
the Ausbilden,
when Dienachen,
the present,
a gross hinder.
Auf Thomas, what does Damascus studium and Time or the Grundy Australian?
Eh, mechanical priest is the
embroidery.
And these risk
of
the punctured,
that
we have
priests, the health of Arts,
the physical,
and
that
the best
or the bishop in this way
and
Okay. Then what
community
would
you like to do? I became a brief and personal.
But it is not anger from Um.
have. Okay, and it is a consequence.
A straightforward
question together and
September. Yeah, and what
is
that? The personality and the generality, and I do
not
colleague.
So, and that
seminar and
the colours
are not generalized and
the children of the domestic.
And that's why
the
machine and the
space.
But for us, I think it's not
that.
And then
I
have filigree, so
also
with
the
choice, that
also
can
be naturally.
That was
better
in the
situation,
and then
I
think also
we have to dash.
Yeah,
the
general
issue is
not the general
wisdom.
And we
have English
from COPFER that
also
in this
case
is not subjective.
And we
have this
and
I have
so many.
I have also
been able to do it.
The goddest
is also
the other
thing. I fire immune.
And that's why
I'm not sure what to do. Ah, okay.
That's what I
was emotional, or the
not.
So we
have
financial.
I would say
sublime.
the job,
a freebooter
for
that
in Freud, and
a beginner, and Grubenberg.
I have a monotonous,
a gap,
and that's
why a lot of people are going to be able to do it. Yeah, I think
it's a very good question. And the
room will work.
And
a
the gardener, and
the
game,
the hull, and
we got
to
begin and
say,
we have a priest.
That
I can
be
order or
not.
And the
damage is
not a good idea. I think I
can
transparent and
give it a try. And we
can't do it. And that law is a mindset,
and we
Yeah, that also
von Bay, but
then
the Michigan spiel bring and Ichlaubia
and that good.
And I
would
say,
and
the Harmis Danka for Absidians that I
wouldn't
have
done. When God
said in the Hall of Garden
we
got the
full fire trust.
So
this kind of
thing, and
we have authorized
and
in the theology
is the Christus
real present.
And the
fire is a fire that
also
brought
the fire
and
be
aware. Immediately also,
we
have
to
invite
the target. So that's what we're doing.
And I think what I
sophomores,
and I mentioned
the
inner Freud and Dangerous machine, but I
think
we can also
feel also.
be
inflicted when
you're in the middle of the
theory,
we have
David Hinn. Yeah, I've been laid.
Yeah, no,
no, no, no, no, no.
I spin
and
priest.
Okay, so theories
are
not awesome.
flight of stress with the
bishop from Munster also.
Do you have to feel
the beginners in the Catholic
Church? Has to Jemale
The fragment
that is a process
is that the fuel is not.
But
it's not a problem.
Okay. And Gabe is in the sight
of the moment would
get
hast or a godweight?
Nie.
The Freud
and the Freud or
the Freud
were
not
a Schule. I also
wanted to
go and
Zoofish Basketball, I suppose with Theological.
the same thing.
And so what we have to do is
that it is a very good question.
I bet
we have a lot of people and the dimensions of a fat
and better
and not influenced.
And that is
a goddess build and
we
mentioned
when
Image,
the common dimension,
what
I can do is also
And I think
that
is not
the
same thing.
Before we have
to get the studio theoretical.
What the fuck?
No, momentarily,
while
the merchant war is
also
very
important, that is
a
key, and that is also
the
way
the world
is practicing. But I would not
momentaries
in this form where I
was able to do and
the
fight when
you were and the building
families and kind of
the same thing. So,
in
all
the
democratic house,
a
full
something.
So, I can
also good all
right. So, that is
also mentioned
when the
mention of London, we
have
also
the three.
I also have a friend and family,
and
it
that
I was
dressing
so
that it also
influenced generation.
I would
go and lend
these
and
the Harmony Eric and
that
I
mentioned
a common
mention when
you were talking about it. And then
we
have
all these things. But
you can't do it.
And
that was
a
glue so much that
I was going to say. I would say my
game
with Female Sogen.
So, that must be
a little bit more difficult. I think
I
wide, yes, myself when you
mentioned that.
So, we come to the
ingredients.
And I feel like
understood and
mentioned
and that
the institutions.
With
this podcast, another commission. Immediately, these podcasts,
the other thing is when
these moments,
so that
I can.
in the auspices and
the mood of the solution.
And that I
think also
in my God is
moved, so,
and I spent
these
moments
that
you have and also
for this podcast,
I think,
a moment of spread. Yeah, I find it that
a
spreadsheet
is so
ping-pong. That's what the logistics
Thank you, Thomas.
And then
you can see that we have to do it. I thank you for Philip Philip,
and I also
in this podcast,
that I
get Thomas Naturally also
told what
total nacho.
I think
we
have
to
do
it,
and
we also
constructed so not
only
Thomas Hatt and Ruggen, but the job and the privilege of
the world. I think
we designed
and a wandering,
and can
be priest with Thomas.
In
this
parasite.
Alex Pooh had zone followers, so
that's why I'm going to be able to do it. I have Alex Darube wish the depression and
in email
and
tunk when
I
was
by the way, with
the same thing in Zweiwochen Gitzweiter here, by Diesel in a moment. And for this
podcast,
we will be able to do it.
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