"Als Priester mit der Kirche brechen" mit Thomas Laufmöller

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Der Weg nach seinem Theologiestudium ist für Thomas Laufmöller klar: Im Mai 1994 findet seine Priesterweihe statt. Dass ihm ausgerechnet das Gehorsamkeitsgelübde, welches er an diesem Tag ablegt, später ungeheure Gewissensbisse bereitet, ahnt er zu diesem Zeitpunkt noch nicht. 


Jahrelang wirkte Thomas in der St.-Stephanus-Gemeinde in Münster, (Schul-) Seelsorge und Gemeindearbeit sind seine Berufung. Doch die Konsequenzen der landesweit steigenden Kirchenaustritte treffen auch ihn: Im Oktober 2020 informiert man Thomas über seine Versetzung und die Zusammenlegung der St.-Stephanus-Gemeinde. Binnen zwei Wochen soll er außerdem das Pfarrhaus räumen. Seine Versetzung, die der Gemeinde lediglich in einem Bischofsbrief bekanntgegeben wird, wird von großen Protesten begleitet. Knapp drei Jahre später folgt der endgültige Bruch: Man entzieht ihm seine letzte große Herzensaufgabe, die Schulseelsorge. Infolgedessen bittet Thomas den amtshabenden Bischof um die Entpflichtung aus seinem Priesteramt. Dieser Schritt wird ohne große Regung zur Kenntnis genommen, was Thomas noch einmal in seiner Entscheidung bestärkt. Sein Glaube an Gott bleibt unerschütterlich – nur an die Institution glaubt er nicht mehr.


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The hatred, but this

is the

prison. I would like to

know what

completely.

I

think I have this podcast

and

now this moment

of

the world.

My health

comes from a beer,

other things,

Thomas Laufmann is

a priest in the catalog.

But this

is

a Rolex and Europe

with Thomas Spreichen. And now when you

say that, I would

say that Thomas

is

interested in that field

and

compromise those.

We started this

moment that is not in the

gun for

the first time, so this moment would be

the bishop of Munster, so that for

the first time, that

priestly.

we have to do is to be able to do

it in

my

priest,

and that is not three

in this brooch.

What

is this moment for

me? This

is

the same thing. So, the kundigung waippes a lengthy.
So, I think

2000

structure,

and

a person,

with a

lot of people can't.

And we also

consult,

with the

Emmanuel, and that we

can

Can you see the fuel in the moment? Why does this

hat? We have this angel fuel, yes, to

do it. So, this is

why

with the bishops, so that we

have the general

and the personal.

And that's what we're a

thing

where that

was

the challenge in the morning.

We

have also

the grunt,

so we have to

job

their glue.

That is proof also

for

people who are

not the all-normal job, and I think

we

have

this proof of combat. So, what we understood,

and what

we

did.

So, this is a minor kind of

thing.

I mean, in my

liberal priest,

pastoral referendum, innovative,

the priest with mention,

with Kaplan, Hamilton, Jung,

and that without

this.

So the

Burch, the Buddha had not interested, I know, know

therefore, and that studio,

and in the

site,

we also

have

students, what,

also meditative, and cognitive

and global with

it. And that

was a site where I

was

addressing design, but also

students, and I

Boromium,

that we

have

the

Boromium

and Cookmal Worthington.

And what

I'm going to say is that we

have been non-dependent,

and I think

that I

can't do it.

Yes, my

growth

organization and Kusta also decision

from Mamma, what

is

it, and what

we

have with Erasmus.

And we have to decide

what kind of fund

Russia and Zenuch orders together.

So, I

think

this world is not

a very important thing.

That is all in the corruption, that mention of the community, that mentioned with the message,

that

mention the atmosphere.

So,

we have no

priests, and that

is

also

a constitution

for

us. Then, the

mention of the

middle,

and we will immediately

form

the authoritarian, the

motivation, and that we

have a

feeling

of open sustainable. I was

priestable, but I was

integrating in the mindset. It has to do with new

theology studios,

not abiturate,

okay, I marked it. Maybe

that can be

in the studio

interesting. I would

say I would priestly.

I

think

what

I

integrated,

but that

Arthur

July.

So we have

to

do it. So I have the studio

music and theology that

we have. And in the studio, what we have to do is also.

also

myself, or that there are

two

battles.

Yeah, I

think in the Jungle side, but

also

so I can't

tell you what?

Yes, that is

why

young people. I have to

speak, I must

run. I

would

also like to

study,

and

we are also

in the message,

so we

are also speaking, and

then

also

what

I

mentioned

with the children, so

that

we can speak.

It is the word

of the suffering,

is that normal

and

pristine?

Yeah,

the fragmentation of

the market, where the star is a family

and kind of

the fragment

in the studio and in the studio. But also we

have the studium of

Zorook and

Gest in this

cookie

also and then

also why I

von Freibuch.

So, what we

have

to do for Europa, when I mentioned 10 kilometers.

So, what

a wiring

pastor

would have.

And that

would be

be

a family.

I was then

priest,

so it is done in Gulf.

What

does it feel?

Yeah, also.

That is

good for you. I think that's what I

practice in Falstaff, I have a wonderful

thing.

We have

to

go out and

liberate,

we have

a

lot of people, we had a

site, we had fair lags, we had a beginning order, and that was poorer and

the same thing. I had that

also

a gun,

a priest of

mention,

the offensive,

their

barriers,

also,

and liberal men,

that

also

when we

come

to mind,

also

conservative structure than that

we

come

then.

Yeah, in Hazard,

and

that's what

I passed. So, this is

also a

glutton, can't clean what

is

that.

So, I have

And I would

say,

and

a cadaver.

And the children.

What

is this?

So this this is a good thing to

do, but

we

have to

do this to the auction, that

we have the fuselage.

I must

say, why

not?

I think

we have

to do it.

are

doing in the mind that video,

video,

yeah, totally. I mean,

we have the great situation

in liberal tube, but

I would say the priest of Monksworth,

yeah.

Yes,

you

mentioned

the burger.

that I had a minor wonderful

idea of

the

URL

and

we can't

also

have

Canst what

do you think?

But you

also

have to do it. So, I think

a mentor

a Jesus is

that

we mentioned

and

I

feel

so interested. I

in the agenda

the

music, I was

with the farm from

Schulefa thank you. And that's that's that's my lame, this

is a good priest.

And we have

to

say,

I

don't know what character character of Pristan.

My niece stays in the oubia.

But when a

dash can

also mention

that I can't, and

what is that,

what is not

an identity.

Ichlawdaschen is

in

Prison,

is that what

we

need to do

and

the problem?

This is why

the problem of the

hardware

is that

after

three

minutes,

in Munster,

what

is

a mind?

That would be a process. I

think

meting

the Schulze or other friends.

And that's why we have nothing to do with

the personal book, so

that's why it is

not

a great

and also.

I have no bedene then,

so we have

to also thought, yeah, you

And that is my

merger and

the same thing.

that is all

right.

And that

is a book,

anthropology, and

theology.

So, a

fraud that would

be

Romani Turtle. But we have

also

been

people

in the pause in the

middle

of contact.

And we

have also

in my

situation,

I mean, it is

a very important thing. That

is contacted to

school and

also

when

and

all that.

That's a wonderful

thing that

2005.

And there are two

clicks of the

other. And that would be

that the music is a very good thing. That

Schuler

method

can

be

done, that is.

That is true.

And

I

think

that is my personality.

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I win

in the Stephen Gemini, then has to do with the School of Marketing, which is inside and

has to do with normal and whatever.

The study of the tram job at sales is

also

in the

past and good and

that a lot of people

But

what

we discussed in

Burke, why

does

it mean in Munster that

Stephanie

is a XXL Gross

that

we end up in?

And

I would

compromise.

I wonder in the priestly,

the

priest, the answer to the priest, also

the manual.

And that's why

we

also

pastoral.

And we

have

the priest

in a

way. My compromise was

a dream in the

house,

the

be able to do it. And a monarch

in the annange.

So, I went

to

the niche wolf. And Lisman Michael,

we

can't see

him

and so in Wickel.

So, as he

exploited that

coordinate,

and

yet this is not a problem. And the fragments

of Ganza and Wicklong

then von Fusion

pastoral

situations,

but not greater than

a priest.

That is what Uber

and Munster is

or pastoral

is.

The critic is not also,

or

priests

and also

when I

spread

a fatra.

It is not

and that

when I

also

miss

this,

whatever.

And I wanna

go to the end, and that

wins and

thousands of catalogs that are also

in the middle of

a half-million.

The other

benchmarks when Susan, as a quasi-geme.

Kierchen, Catochul, bibliotic, or tagunsois, werden geschlossen, damit solgeworden. Thomas critic is for all the person

contacts

in

the world, or the priest and

the niche

nachomken.

It

is not a aspect of the battery,

the key spatial

is the kind of

sofa dimension that

When I got

in the Stefan,

then what

dimension of

this kind of

thing? No, the Looks out.

But I went in the dimension of the

world.

And I spent

all the time in January House.

Man, in Freud, Manchima in Leiden,

Manchester

I won't

be able to do it. And that can

be

a

wonderful

message, that mother zooming out. I think

it messes.

And then we have

this

problem in the middle.

And even

in Stefan Zoofield,

I have to say, think

the Messiah was

a bad

and that was good.

And that

allows you to do it. I think

what the alternative

problem

is,

I would mention

this,

the key of half

a week?

We

are also

talking about

it, but

I would not say that.

So, my

question is,

what

mentioned in our

mind?

And the

immerse or

something that is not

the Eucharist.

That

is a week that mentioned

Francis Bischoff,

a key

mention of a

game, I think, whatever it is.

But a

lot of people, and the

in the level that

we have.

And if there is an alarm signal, that

in the corona side

is

not a problem. Yeah, that is what

the gross faraway would be ordinary

and routine, or the routine to those

good

points.

And that is not and that is natural

that in black on

the

independent.

And there are

natural

mentioned

the husband

and

Miss Braun

and

the Siddhania

also

in schlimps

is the institution.

But this is my

personal.

That is

a critic point and formula also

not this

and what the reaction that

is

so.

I

mentioned

anything.

The fragments

of criticism.

When

the Andrea Stummy, the general spiker, in the

Book of Ich Music Rauss,

so the

normal formula

is also normal and

that we

are then

formed.

That is the

we

are in October 2020, that also

is a very important thing. So, I would say that the personality

that

Stefan Oskemein

was but then Zip

Nest

in Schulichen,

what

is also formulated,

and

then 3%

of Wolf is

not.

In

this

form,

what is

the moment for you? Yeah, that's what

totally

is. And this would be

more

than

that, the

That

the Uber dashed most of the time.

That's why we have the

same thing. The other week,

and

we have to do it.

We have to

do this. the middle.

But it is

similar, and then I

personally

adventure in the mind,

and have nothing to do with

the bishops.

But

the dimension,

and then

a brief bishop.

protest action,

demos, skipped out,

briefly and then bischoffs and

officials that are

going to be able to do it. So, we

are going to

be

able to

do that normal for the

fight from Thomas Laufmann, but

the priest

but that

priest for

the temporary

priest,

or

the waxen digestion, what

also

priests

with

the men. But it can be

done,

And I also

have a Stephanie Gerhard, and here was automatic.

And then

it was

also

diffusion block. There was

an

article

in Spiegel, and it is

the premium

In Grossman, we also

have a

Timan der Kumata and all kindergarten, the Grosswara.

This thing is so much

better. While

we kinder here in kindergarten,

this

is not why my farage

is also

the kindergarten. And there is a great

thing

within

the microphone,

so priest or pastoral,

so

there is

a lot of people who are in the middle of the day. And I this

aufame.

So,

that I think

in Pulse, not Albert Warren,

kindergarten,

so Hinzukom,

that was

a country,

then first,

or the Monadheim, and then this kind of thing. And that

pastoral

has to

be

so weird?

Yes, so I would

say

that the empire

in them

is

okay. Okay, but this is

the

first time to

hinder

them fall, that is why

with a wonderful

thing, but what

in the

world? That is the most

important,

the far house. Yeah, and that

is

the merger of this

institution.

And that was my own point in this

brutality,

and then this situation where

the protests in the mind

of 2010.

So we

have to

do the

same

thing that I know the car and

the label. So in 2009, we have a house, that is

a wonderful

thing,

the war

note,

and not

angry.

Had nothing. In Trussia, the protests were not

these protests.

Thomas Laufmann

can protest

and

say that it

is many,

and they

also

get

many

men were

in principle that

the aufrich and

the

club just

in the garnish allowed

me to be

in 2014

that

normal rights and

the same thing. So, I think that

fatality is without

it.

That

institution is in the brutality,

and we have the same

thing. We have

an opportunity to

normalize the point

of the reception,

critic

and the

institution

or whatever.

So, what stirs institutions are

the same?

So, if

you now

in the side

that

marks also

relatively, or

not.

In a democratic,

and then when

you can

priest or bishop,

yeah, then that is a bishop or

a

fear.

And I have also

made this priest.

and when

the priest is a yard, I need to orient it. So, we need to

priest note.

And that one

that her

aunt is going to be. Then not that

solib,

but

that's not a free. freestyle.
Absolutely. So all the

form is when we

have a lot of people who are not going to be able to do that.

That was the key

issue.

And

I hope that

the

fragment is not

here or

in families. The fragment is

a

gender and the benefit of the dimension. Absolutely.
That is not and a line for the

world.

And also

the order of the market. Absolute.
So

you

can also

completely

get it. Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. And I would

say

when

the

war and the fruit in the hurricane,

we

come out in the

misbroch.

But

the greater

And then

we

have a

catalog with the

scandal,

there's no

person.

It must feel that

desire

to

be a mantra

that have compassion with

mid-line, mid-fuel, mid-game.

So, I

need

to fuel in that mental angle.

This is

mentioned

and

that prisoner

is the hatman for

the

merchants we can relieve.

We

have

to do it. And I have not

mama and papa trend. And we have also

in the puppet war,

That is mitigation,

but what I want to do is

not

clear or

a straightforward.

That is also

the same thing. Yes, or

Yeah, but

this

is

an extra recharge.

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Yeah, so

you can see it and

I think it's a very good question.

We are

going to send dine.

So,

we can

see that

a

lot of people are

globally.

And we will immediately say, that we also

have a greater view. And I have

the other priest

and

the stem.

And from this priest,

in

the best

way to

do that,

there is a lot of people and so on. But

that

means

that so many

people. And that's why we're going to

energy

and

also

But

that was the

work and

then probe.

But this is a farm, that comes with

the water, and I

would

say with

the patchwork families, that was

aunt, and we

were

able to

do it. That was

Dunkel, and that was

not

another situation. And that was the

way that

we had

to.

And that was also

the

bishop,

that we

had him.

That

was a very important thing in

statement of Stephen Haskell,

Hasabitine for

the same time.

And we

also

have

Zybtichen

via Friedenschule.

And yet also

Professor Dr. Matthias Zellmann had the studio

and

the priest for

the constellation of the Holzutag Image.

A problem is in the person

of the world, but

in the art and we have

to do it. The

Führer

and Schein with settings and the modern

world. She also

has the

reform,

even

wander here.

Professor Zelmann lighted the negative

priest,

even

the

end.

That

feels like the studio is an intensive

work, and Iroll here formal Ausfield.

For the studio

and

also

the Ausbilden,

when Dienachen,

the present,

a gross hinder.

Auf Thomas, what does Damascus studium and Time or the Grundy Australian?

Eh, mechanical priest is the

embroidery.

And these risk

of

the punctured,

that

we have

priests, the health of Arts,

the physical,

and

that

the best

or the bishop in this way

and

Okay. Then what

community

would

you like to do? I became a brief and personal.

But it is not anger from Um.

have. Okay, and it is a consequence.
A straightforward

question together and

September. Yeah, and what

is

that? The personality and the generality, and I do

not

colleague.

So, and that

seminar and

the colours

are not generalized and

the children of the domestic.

And that's why

the

machine and the

space.

But for us, I think it's not

that.

And then

I

have filigree, so

also

with

the

choice, that

also

can

be naturally.

That was

better

in the

situation,

and then

I

think also

we have to dash.

Yeah,

the

general

issue is

not the general

wisdom.

And we

have English

from COPFER that

also

in this

case

is not subjective.

And we

have this

and

I have

so many.

I have also

been able to do it.

The goddest

is also

the other

thing. I fire immune.

And that's why

I'm not sure what to do. Ah, okay.

That's what I

was emotional, or the

not.

So we

have

financial.

I would say

sublime.

the job,

a freebooter

for

that

in Freud, and

a beginner, and Grubenberg.

I have a monotonous,

a gap,

and that's

why a lot of people are going to be able to do it. Yeah, I think

it's a very good question. And the

room will work.

And

a

the gardener, and

the

game,

the hull, and

we got

to

begin and

say,

we have a priest.

That

I can

be

order or

not.

And the

damage is

not a good idea. I think I

can

transparent and

give it a try. And we

can't do it. And that law is a mindset,

and we

Yeah, that also

von Bay, but

then

the Michigan spiel bring and Ichlaubia

and that good.

And I

would

say,

and

the Harmis Danka for Absidians that I

wouldn't

have

done. When God

said in the Hall of Garden

we

got the

full fire trust.

So

this kind of

thing, and

we have authorized

and

in the theology

is the Christus

real present.

And the

fire is a fire that

also

brought

the fire

and

be

aware. Immediately also,

we

have

to

invite

the target. So that's what we're doing.
And I think what I

sophomores,

and I mentioned

the

inner Freud and Dangerous machine, but I

think

we can also

feel also.

be

inflicted when

you're in the middle of the

theory,

we have

David Hinn. Yeah, I've been laid.

Yeah, no,

no, no, no, no, no.

I spin

and

priest.

Okay, so theories

are

not awesome.

flight of stress with the

bishop from Munster also.

Do you have to feel

the beginners in the Catholic

Church? Has to Jemale

The fragment

that is a process

is that the fuel is not.

But

it's not a problem.

Okay. And Gabe is in the sight

of the moment would

get

hast or a godweight?

Nie.

The Freud

and the Freud or

the Freud

were

not

a Schule. I also

wanted to

go and

Zoofish Basketball, I suppose with Theological.

the same thing.

And so what we have to do is

that it is a very good question.

I bet

we have a lot of people and the dimensions of a fat

and better

and not influenced.

And that is

a goddess build and

we

mentioned

when

Image,

the common dimension,

what

I can do is also

And I think

that

is not

the

same thing.

Before we have

to get the studio theoretical.

What the fuck?

No, momentarily,

while

the merchant war is

also

very

important, that is

a

key, and that is also

the

way

the world

is practicing. But I would not

momentaries

in this form where I

was able to do and

the

fight when

you were and the building

families and kind of

the same thing. So,

in

all

the

democratic house,

a

full

something.

So, I can

also good all

right. So, that is

also mentioned

when the

mention of London, we

have

also

the three.

I also have a friend and family,

and

it

that

I was

dressing

so

that it also

influenced generation.

I would

go and lend

these

and

the Harmony Eric and

that

I

mentioned

a common

mention when

you were talking about it. And then

we

have

all these things. But

you can't do it.

And

that was

a

glue so much that

I was going to say. I would say my

game

with Female Sogen.

So, that must be

a little bit more difficult. I think

I

wide, yes, myself when you

mentioned that.

So, we come to the

ingredients.

And I feel like

understood and

mentioned

and that

the institutions.

With

this podcast, another commission. Immediately, these podcasts,

the other thing is when

these moments,

so that

I can.

in the auspices and

the mood of the solution.

And that I

think also

in my God is

moved, so,

and I spent

these

moments

that

you have and also

for this podcast,

I think,

a moment of spread. Yeah, I find it that

a

spreadsheet

is so

ping-pong. That's what the logistics

Thank you, Thomas.

And then

you can see that we have to do it. I thank you for Philip Philip,

and I also

in this podcast,

that I

get Thomas Naturally also

told what

total nacho.

I think

we

have

to

do

it,

and

we also

constructed so not

only

Thomas Hatt and Ruggen, but the job and the privilege of

the world. I think

we designed

and a wandering,

and can

be priest with Thomas.

In

this

parasite.

Alex Pooh had zone followers, so

that's why I'm going to be able to do it. I have Alex Darube wish the depression and

in email

and

tunk when

I

was

by the way, with

the same thing in Zweiwochen Gitzweiter here, by Diesel in a moment. And for this

podcast,

we will be able to do it.

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