"Von Olympiagold in den Rollstuhl" mit Kristina Vogel
Kristina Vogel ist zweifache Olympiasiegerin und 17-fache Weltmeisterin im Bahnradsport – ein Weltstar ihres Sports. 2018 steckt sie mitten in der Olympia-Qualifikationsphase für Tokio 2020, als ein schwerer Trainingsunfall ihr Leben grundlegend verändert. Von diesem Tag an ist Kristina querschnittsgelähmt und ihr Leben als Radsportlerin ist beendet.
Obwohl sie sich bereits zehn Jahre zuvor nach einem schweren Unfall zurück an die Weltspitze gekämpft hatte, steht für sie schnell fest, dass eine Fortsetzung ihrer Karriere als Parasportlerin für sie nicht infrage kommt. Schon während ihrer aktiven Karriere spürt Kristina zunehmend den Perfomancedruck, der mit dem Leistungssport einhergeht. Rückblickend beschreibt sie diesen Zustand als völlige Erschöpfung und Ausgebranntsein. Trotz allem bleibt ihre Leidenschaft für den Bahnradsport ungebrochen – 2024 kehrt sie als Kommentatorin der olympischen Bahnradwettkämpfe in Paris zurück zu ihrem Sport.
Aufgeben ist für Kristina auch mit Querschnittslähmung keine Option. Sie bezeichnet sich selbst als „Resilienzmonster“ und beschließt früh, das Beste aus ihrer neuen Situation zu machen. Schuldfragen oder „Was-wäre-wenn“-Szenarien beschäftigen sie nicht; sie weiß aus eigener Erfahrung, dass solche Gedanken nicht zielführend sind. Für sie zählt allein, die Tatsache ihrer Querschnittslähmung zu akzeptieren und die Möglichkeiten zu entdecken, die sich daraus ergeben.
Kristina konzentriert sich darauf, ihren Körper zu stärken und Brücken zwischen neuen Herausforderungen und kreativen Lösungen zu bauen. Dank ihrer Karriere im Leistungssport hatte sie schon immer ein diverses Umfeld – wie stark man jedoch im Alltag durch eine Behinderung eingeschränkt ist, wird ihr erst bewusst, seit sie selbst betroffen ist. Kristina engagiert sich nun verstärkt in der Öffentlichkeit. Sie lebt Inklusion und nutzt ihre Vorbildfunktion, um anderen Menschen den Weg zu weisen. „Man kann nicht nicht Vorbild sein – jede*r von uns beeinflusst Menschen […] Und ich bin lieber ein gutes Vorbild, als dass ich ein schlechtes Vorbild bin“, sagt sie. Kristinas ansteckender Optimismus inspiriert viele.
Mehr zu Kristina und ihrem Engagement auf Instagram: @kristina.vogel
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