"140 Tage Terrorgeiselhaft" mit Marc Wallert

1h 8m

Im Jahr 2000 fliegt Marc Wallert mit seinen Eltern in den Tauchurlaub nach Malaysia. Bei einem Restaurantbesuch werden sie, einige weitere Touristinnen und Angestellte des Restaurants von Rebellen der islamistischen Terrororganisation Abu Sayyaf überfallen und entführt. Noch in der Nacht fahren sie 20h über das offene Meer bis zur philippinischen Insel Jolo, nach weiteren 10h Fußmarsch erreichen sie das Headquarter der Terrorristen - das anders als das Wort assoziieren lässt, aus Bambushütten besteht. Zu diesem Moment ahnt Marc noch nicht, dass er erst in fast 5 Monaten wieder in Freiheit sein wird. Die Zeit ist geprägt von blankem Überleben: Insbesondere die Versorgungs- und Hygienelage sind schlecht, außerdem muss sich die Gruppe organisieren, mit der Zeit nimmt jeder eine gewissen Rolle ein. Marc sagt Tagebuch-Schreiben und eine Bucket-List anlegen, Regnose und auch etwas Galgenhumor haben ihm über die Zeit geholfen. Die philippinische Armee unternimmt mehrere Befreiungsversuche und mit fortschreitender Zeit kommen immer mal Journalist*innen und Kamerateams an den Ort des Geschehens. So wurden die Geiseln Teil weltweiter medialer Berichterstattung und Marc erfährt am eigenen Leibe, wie es sich anfühlt, wenn einem einzig ein Stück Papier - in diesem Fall der Journalismus-Pass - den Unterschied zwischen Ein-/Ausreise bzw. Verweigerung dieser, bewirkt. Gegen Lösegeldzahlungen werden die Geiseln letztlich etappenweise frei gelassen. Marc beschloss noch in der Gefangenschaft, einen Sinn für sich aus der Situation zu ziehen - heute ist er Keynote-Speaker für Resilienz und SPIEGEL-Besteller Autor, dieses Wirken ist von seiner Zeit in Gefangenschaft extrem geprägt.

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Speaker 3 the

Speaker 3 completely

Speaker 3 different.

Speaker 3 Ichben Philip and Ich traffic in this podcast

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 now this moment

Speaker 3 of

Speaker 3 the world.

Speaker 3 The absolute

Speaker 3 ellipse. Mark Waller, as Saxon Herrick, in all

Speaker 3 the world, and other tourists, and

Speaker 3 a terror organization for

Speaker 3 the family, and what

Speaker 3 Philippines

Speaker 3 is. Good morning, that

Speaker 3 we can't for comments, the arms were Damal,

Speaker 3 in Allamunde, and

Speaker 3 French

Speaker 3 life.

Speaker 3 I mean, I can order

Speaker 3 in,

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 we have

Speaker 3 have Mark and the other.

Speaker 3 Mark had the

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Speaker 3 And the loans total

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Speaker 3 Hello, Mark. Herzlich Wilkom.

Speaker 2 Hello, Philip, Fiernang.

Speaker 3 I said to Hohen,

Speaker 3 then you

Speaker 3 have the first guest

Speaker 3 with a couple of interviews for this,

Speaker 3 and we have directed

Speaker 3 in COP to

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Speaker 3 sexuality and

Speaker 3 Renato and Werner is

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Speaker 2 lot of these

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Speaker 2 people who are going to be able to do it. So

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Speaker 3 you

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Speaker 2 and also my mother has

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Speaker 2 we

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Speaker 2 Nathuri

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Speaker 2 the Philippines,

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Speaker 2 plantation,

Speaker 2 and fisheries

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Speaker 2 and our information information,

Speaker 2 I

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Speaker 2 for

Speaker 2 Rebellion,

Speaker 2 when

Speaker 2 you start to see

Speaker 2 what

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Speaker 2 but CNN was

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Speaker 3 the Mark and Sina Elton kidnapped.

Speaker 3 In

Speaker 3 the further

Speaker 3 rebellion of the Islamist terror organization Abu Sayaf Betalich. The Abu Sayafrun News and Il is the right

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Speaker 3 found it. Um,

Speaker 3 organizations,

Speaker 3 journalists in common interviews and the

Speaker 3 break not

Speaker 3 the

Speaker 3 reporter and reporter

Speaker 3 or Mark Wallet. Absurd scenarios

Speaker 3 and other terrorists are

Speaker 3 the terrorists of Market

Speaker 3 Siege

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Speaker 3 Frank, Finland, and South Africa and

Speaker 3 Anglo-State the

Speaker 3 hotels.

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Speaker 2 we

Speaker 2 get

Speaker 2 my daughter

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 my headquarters.

Speaker 2 We are headquarters and

Speaker 2 to let go,

Speaker 2 so I

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Speaker 2 Spencer

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Speaker 2 this camp has not been infrared that we

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Speaker 2 the Frau with Kind, or that Commissioner George. So, TV listened, so the front

Speaker 2 baby,

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Speaker 2 to the bottom of the city. And then we are in Director,

Speaker 2 kind of

Speaker 2 turkey and

Speaker 2 mosquitoes, that

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Speaker 2 the world,

Speaker 2 so when we

Speaker 2 all

Speaker 3 know that

Speaker 3 the headquarters,

Speaker 2 We had

Speaker 2 a total of

Speaker 2 age, but we

Speaker 2 also

Speaker 2 need

Speaker 2 to.

Speaker 2 And that's what

Speaker 2 we're doing, and then we

Speaker 2 have

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 get it. And then what

Speaker 2 we have, and

Speaker 2 then what

Speaker 2 we're seeing. And then we have

Speaker 2 contacts that

Speaker 2 journalists

Speaker 2 interview and film for them.

Speaker 2 That was the auspices and the hoffene roses we met in a

Speaker 2 way. So

Speaker 2 and the

Speaker 2 flying water, but we have

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 say

Speaker 2 maybe Maybe tomorrow, if not tomorrow, the day after tomorrow.

Speaker 2 So, a husbandage or

Speaker 2 direct

Speaker 2 cultural

Speaker 2 frontier studio

Speaker 2 was to hold this and then

Speaker 3 realize that

Speaker 3 we

Speaker 3 have

Speaker 2 no

Speaker 2 moment, so it's

Speaker 2 the moment

Speaker 2 of it, and

Speaker 2 one

Speaker 2 of the

Speaker 2 sites that we

Speaker 2 have, is that

Speaker 2 what we would

Speaker 2 do is

Speaker 2 not

Speaker 2 militia, so

Speaker 2 we methods, have

Speaker 2 and a ruin, and the

Speaker 2 panel, and so

Speaker 2 forth.

Speaker 2 We were super optimistic, that's

Speaker 2 a very

Speaker 2 important

Speaker 2 thing. And then we were,

Speaker 2 and in fact, that

Speaker 2 is my motorcycle beard, or that they

Speaker 2 had to be

Speaker 2 dehydrated, when

Speaker 2 fluid for

Speaker 2 you. And that was

Speaker 2 realized that we

Speaker 2 had a

Speaker 2 mental health, but we also

Speaker 2 have to

Speaker 2 say that

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 2 situation,

Speaker 3 Mark

Speaker 3 here from a floor, with

Speaker 3 the floor,

Speaker 3 with the

Speaker 3 body, and the

Speaker 3 fight. We

Speaker 3 have

Speaker 3 to do something from the Philippines.

Speaker 2 With three thousand,

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Speaker 3 in the market, and the underlying

Speaker 3 Rebellion.

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Speaker 3 superfrain, but all the immediate

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 farmers. Market is the campus for the

Speaker 3 people, and the military also

Speaker 3 influenced the absorption

Speaker 3 of the terrorists, not to the

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Speaker 3 constructive

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Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 ause.

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Speaker 3 the unit and catastrophe.

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Speaker 2 the money that

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Speaker 2 organized. So then when we started children

Speaker 2 in the world and so

Speaker 2 on together. And that was

Speaker 2 good. And

Speaker 2 Francis Shamé, and

Speaker 2 Heimart Lender Davan. And that was

Speaker 2 an unreasonable change, so that Karamella

Speaker 2 is a mental health solution,

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Speaker 3 And we

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Speaker 2 not all in the second. All right, we have a lot of people

Speaker 2 or

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Speaker 2 with Elton, that the

Speaker 2 zone of the health is very

Speaker 2 important

Speaker 2 in the rich

Speaker 2 passage. So, you see,

Speaker 2 I think in the

Speaker 2 Elton,

Speaker 2 that's what we're doing. So, when

Speaker 2 you

Speaker 2 go and

Speaker 2 see,

Speaker 2 and that is

Speaker 2 very important, but

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Speaker 2 vanager with my mother,

Speaker 2 that one

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