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What's up, fuckers?

Just kidding.

What?

What?

I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding.

I have a new attitude.

Notice anything different about me?

I mean, part of it is your attitude itself.

I'm Matt 2 now.

You're what?

Wow, Matt 2?

I'm Matt 2.

I'm bigger.

Yeah, I was noticed.

You seem a little bit bigger.

Like in a good way.

I'm like a bigger, I'm bigger now.

Yeah, just scaled up.

Proportionally.

I mean, and based on the way you walked in the room, a little bit more confident.

A new, bigger attitude, baby.

I mean, okay, so you're slightly bigger.

Yeah.

But that's it?

That's what makes makes you matt too yeah matt too you know I'm I gotta I gotta be honest as like you said matt too is a little skeptical but I'm I think I'm starting to like matt to because I'm realizing all that I liked about the matt one is available you're backwards compatible with matt yeah it's all all the same matt experience but just just a little bit bigger just a little bit more wow matt too baby okay I'm magnetic also the what

Wait, what, you're magnetic?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got magnets in me now.

You've got magnets in you, and you're slightly bigger.

You're mad, too.

What do you mean?

Let me

test this out.

I'm going to toss my lucky silver dollar in the air.

Whoa, it climbs right to him.

Why do you need magnets?

What do the magnets do?

Okay.

Why do I need magnets?

Kind of

exactly the type of question.

I don't need to

ask.

I don't want to, like,

you know, I don't.

This has made me so anxious.

They keep stuff on.

What?

Are your clothes magnetic?

Heather,

I hate to be rude.

Don't be stupid.

I feel stupid.

Stupids are bigger.

They're just bigger clothes.

Yeah, your clothes fit.

You're just like up a size.

Yeah.

I guess that's kind of probably an annoying thing about Matt 2.

You got to buy all new accessories for Matt 2.

You got to buy a whole new wardrobe.

You'd think that, right?

Yeah.

You don't have to.

Really?

All the Matt 1 stuff works for the Matt 2?

I guess not all the Matt stuff one works.

Matt One stuff doesn't work for all of it.

What are we talking about?

He's Matt 2 now.

What does this mean?

He's magnetic.

I'm magnetic and I'm bigger.

The fuck are you talking about?

I was one size before

for a long time.

I was that size.

Now I'm bigger.

What's look, I obviously am just bigger now.

And magnetic.

What?

Now you're getting it.

Yes.

What do you need?

What do you need the magnets for?

Tell me what you need the magnets for.

Did you put them, did you eat them?

Because if so, I think you need to go to the doctor.

If you're asking me if I ate like a handful of magnets like they were chocolate chips or something, yes, I did do that.

That's you immediately need to go to the hospital.

No.

What?

I don't have to.

They work for me now.

What do you mean they work?

Try it.

Look, pull my arm.

What do you mean?

Oh!

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

Okay, don't put it back, put it back, put it back, put it back.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

It snapped back in place.

See, only some blood came out.

Oh, my God.

I'm going to pass out.

That was horrifying, but it did.

It attached pretty seamlessly.

Yeah,

look, it's like it's

fun.

It's like it's back on.

It's all the way back on.

It's okay.

I'm just.

Man, I got to get it because I still got the old arms that have the manual clips.

Oh my God.

Oh, my God.

It's really hard to put back on.

Put it back on, man.

Oh, no, you put it back the wrong way.

It bent the right hand upside down.

Oh my fuck.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, my God.

Anyway, so yeah, but I'm just just a little bit bigger than before.

I like that too.

We make our previous version obsolete, and remember Ringfit Adventure?

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As the Nintendo Switch is dead, long live the Switch 2 this week on Get Play.

Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between.

It's time to get played.

I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger.

That's me, Tiger Weiger, along with our third host, Matt Apodaka.

Hello, everyone.

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the premiere video game podcast.

For this week, it's Switch 2 Launch Week.

We're recording this on Switch 2 Launch Day.

The day of.

Wow.

The first day.

The first day.

What a day.

What a day.

What a day.

What a nice time.

It's always fun when

there's a new console, it's always fun, right?

But when there's a new Nintendo console,

that feels different to me for some reason.

I posted a take on Blue Sky, though.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I saw this and I liked it.

Which is that this is only, to my knowledge, the second Nintendo system that has launched without a major gimmick.

You've got the NES, which is the light gun, the robot, all that shit's patented.

The gamepad.

I mean, that's like the thing.

You look back, I like that.

That was the real revelation of the NES is that we went from joysticks to gamepads.

We established controllers as the

methodology for all future generations.

Then you got the Super Nintendo.

Sure, there's a slight modification to

the gamepad itself.

But generally, the Super Nintendo is sold on.

Now you're playing with power, superpower.

It's a more powerful console.

Yes.

After that, you've got the N64, which is weird across the board.

Yeah.

Very, very gimmicky controller.

3D Mario is also at that time a gimmick, right?

It's like, oh, Mario is 3D now.

You've got the GameCube, which comes with weird discs, handle, weird controller.

The Wii is all gimmicks.

The Wii U has a screen game pad.

The Switch is your first portable and home docked system, but the switch 2

is just like the super nintendo it's just a more powerful version of the thing that came before it's a

that's right times i don't think so tim is the thing that's what he said i think so

do you think they i mean i don't i'm i don't think i've seen every episode he had to hit him with one of those one time And I think so.

Yeah, maybe.

Just to make sure that it's a further expectation.

Yeah, probably.

There probably was a joke in there where at one point he said, I think so.

And he's like, oh, I think I might be sick or something.

If you were born in the last 25 years, like say if you're a 25-year-old person, what the boys are discussing is an ABC sitcom from the 1990s called Home Improvement that featured Tim Allen.

He's now the star of some other show where he plays kind of a racist, I think.

He's had three different sitcoms since then, I think.

Maybe four, actually.

And he did the Santa Claus.

That's right.

And he's the voice of Buzz Lightyear, perhaps his most famous credit of all.

I don't want to say, look, I don't want to get too far into this.

Okay.

When I used to work at the improv, he did a night at the improv and it was like everyone was like oh my god wow tim allen he's buzz lightyear he's santa claus he opens his show talking about how he hates kids

i was really i was very upset i don't know i feel like that kind of like counter booking is probably really good for like his his own like his diversity

yeah maybe and then like maybe it gives because like he's not ever like super fond of the children he's playing against anyway so he's maybe he doesn't have to do that much uh acting Well, it's kind of also like the Bob Sagett factor of like RAP, but like, you know, his whole, like, it just was in the most family-friendly stuff possible.

America's funniest home videos and,

you know, what the hell, what is that show called?

Full House.

Full House.

Yeah.

I want to call it family something, but it's not that.

It's not family title.

It's called that Family House.

Family House is a good idea for a show.

It's not that.

Family living in a house.

A multi-generational family in one single home.

Actually, you know what?

Pretty good.

That's ours.

That's a pretty good sitcom.

It's pretty good.

But Bob Sagitt was like an extremely filthy stand-up com.

Yes.

My parents watched the Tim Allen stand-up special every time we had any kind of reunion with any family member.

Oh, wow.

So, like, if the aunt came over, we were watching the Tim Allen fucking stand-up special.

Not my aunt, the aunt.

We watched it so much that if,

like, I was a child, but I know portions of his routine from just over exposure to them.

Yeah.

And there was a run he went on in his like big stand-up special about sucking other guys' dicks and like how men know men better than women do.

Yeah.

And like, who's better at giving a blowjob than a man?

Yeah.

We should all be sucking each other's dicks.

And I think about that sometimes in the context of how much society has shifted.

Yes.

That that was like a joyful,

like it popped.

You know, the audience laughed and cheered.

And now, if he said that, he'd have to kill himself immediately afterwards.

I didn't mean that.

There should be like a, you know, how like people will dig up like old clips that have not aged well and like use it as a way to be like, this person's like bad now or whatever.

They should do that for that.

It's just like, it's never the other way.

It's never a take that's aged good that gets somebody brought down.

Yeah, yeah.

I was using the largest air quotes I possibly could because there are no consequences for anything.

Yeah, that era's past.

What are you talking about?

Then you've also got the Game Boy, which is a gimmick because it's a portable video game system.

You've got the Game Boy Advance, which is like

a Super Nintendo in your hands.

It's not just color screen, but it's like a 16-bit, it's like a full gimmick, right?

It's also the Game Boy player is part of it.

So, you know, that's a mega, I guess.

You've got the Virtual Boy, which is insane across the board.

You've got the DS, which comes with two screens, 3DS, which comes with...

3D without glasses.

They made the DS, they retained the dual screens of the DS, but they made it like crazier and weirder needlessly.

Yes.

So like all of these systems have launched with major gimmicks except the Switch 2, unless you count the mouses as a controller, the controller mice.

And I don't think that that counts.

It's like the touch screen on the back of the Vita.

Nobody gives a shit.

It's the closest Nintendo has ever come to just a straight upgrade.

And even what you're talking about with the Super Nintendo, it's like four face buttons, shoulder buttons, those were again things that informed how

input devices would be for consoles from that point on.

So, like, they had some major innovations on the hardware side,

as well as just like such a seismic gulf in technology between 16-bit hardware and 8-bit hardware.

So,

yeah, that is a, I like that observation.

It's strange.

It's the first Nintendo system that I can remember.

in my, in my life, where I'm not like, I can't wait to try the blank.

Yeah, let's see what the fuck weird shit they've cooked up this time.

No, it just feels like the next generation Xbox for the first time.

Yeah, very weird.

Yeah.

We'll get into it.

We'll talk all about that.

And we'll also look back on the Switch one.

But right now, we have a question more generally

about this medium we discuss.

The question is, what are you playing?

Oh, yeah, Rayon High is me, the Resident Evil merchant, and I'm here to announce my segment.

What are you playing?

For those of you catching in with us for the first time, I'm the guy who sells you weapons in the original Resident Evil 4.

Since I fell on hard times and lost my source of employment, the boys and lady and Ranchable

have offered me a

job.

And so I come in and I announce this segment.

Some people on Reddit hate me.

Some people on Reddit like me.

I fall somewhere in the middle in terms of my personal self-evaluation.

Anyway, I'm here to ask, what are you playing?

And I want to start with Matt Abadago.

I gotta say,

that was like the most competent you've ever been at doing this.

Really?

I hosted an episode.

We remember.

I'll say it again.

I prepared.

I prepared so much on that episode.

Good table setting for people who might be joining us for the first time.

It's on wrap.

Yes, sometimes you have to remember it's everybody's first day alive.

That's true.

I hope they're just blasting this in the NICU somewhere for the babies, for the new babies.

I subscribe to the idea that we die every time we go to sleep and we wake up as a new person.

Oh, interesting.

So we're all a copy of a copy of the...

The continuity of our consciousness is extinguished and we wake up with yesterday's person's memories, but our own new experience of life.

Man, so okay.

Interesting.

We have a ship of Theseus sort of theory.

34 years of life, 365 days, whatever that math is.

I'm the Mickey 17, but that number and my name.

You're Matt 17.005.

Yeah, I don't know how many days it is.

I couldn't tell you now.

You know, because we've never solved the hard problem of consciousness.

Who knows if it'll be figured out in our lifetimes, but it's like, why does being alive feel like something?

Yeah, I think too, just.

And it's like, if we're saying this, this, this, but like, to me, I feel like, if your theory is true, I feel like the same person I was yesterday.

So does that mean that consciousness, when it's, when it's reborn, transfers over?

You know, because that suggests some sort of spirituality.

When you experiment with anesthesia,

you knock yourself out of consciousness even though the body is alive.

Oh, what is that movie called?

Flatliners?

Yeah, Flatliners.

Flatline Yourself?

I never saw the remake.

saw the camera.

Oh, you can do it with an IV.

You don't have to die.

So

you can knock yourself out.

And

they think that the microtubules in your brain discontinue their ability to quantumly connect to consciousness.

Wow.

Wow.

So

by that measure, anybody who's ever had surgery is not the same person they were before.

Well, I'm sure that based on the way things are trending with science, I'm sure we'll have an answer any day now about what consciousness actually is.

Then we can find out other mysteries: like, do we all see blue the same way?

Right.

Aren't the tastes so different for people?

Why am I always wet?

That's up there with some of the light, with the great mysteries of the world, I think.

Yeah, we'll get to the bottom of that for sure.

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Look, a couple big things happened.

Last week, we couldn't really talk about Night Rain.

It didn't mean Night Rain.

It had come out.

It had come out.

It hadn't come out by the time we recorded.

Right.

It came out later that night.

Yes.

I started playing this game.

Okay.

And let me just say, I don't, I don't, look, online games, playing, like, I'll play Fortnite, Fortnite, or like something like that a little bit.

Not really my jam.

Uh-huh.

Not really getting online.

I'm not squatting up.

Hey, but I'm a single player as they get.

Yeah, I'm not really, I'm not doing that.

I'm a campaign mode guy.

I have transitioned from solo playing to almost exclusively squad playment.

Yeah.

Playment?

Playment.

Playment.

I like it.

I like it.

Playment.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Squad playment.

I I typically, yeah, I'm a solo guy, campaign guy,

not hopping online.

It's, you know, in Elden Ring, you can summon people into your game

or invade, but I sort of still feel like that's a fundamentally different experience.

It's a single-player game where you can interact with other players.

It's a stranding.

It's a stranding.

It's a stranded.

It's a strand game.

We're all stranded these days.

This game, this version of this game

is

my fucking jam.

Wow.

Wow.

I'm loving this game.

I was kind of surprised.

It's, well, I'm not surprised by this.

It's extremely fucking difficult.

Yes.

It's very hard.

I think it's been balanced patched since then,

since release.

I don't know how much easier it is to do solo, but it is, it seems like it is designed to be

a communal experience to play with three people or to play with two people as a party of three, a trio to, you know, take down these bosses.

I've done one.

I've done one with random people.

And everyone is, I've been reading a lot about people saying, oh, you have to have friends.

You have to have people that you know so you can have like an uh there's not chat in the game.

Yeah.

You have to have a way of chatting with the people to

actually succeed at this game.

Let me tell you something.

If you're just passive like me, and you're not trying to, you know, rub, you're not trying to ruffle any feathers or, you know, make any strong choices, and you just decide to follow one of the people, you can get shit done in this game.

You can do quite well for yourself.

I'm just like sticking close with

whoever I happen to be near with

in the group because sometimes people, you'll either all be doing that same thing, or sometimes you might be running off doing your own thing, which I do think there probably is a benefit too, because the game ultimately does funnel you to one place at a certain point.

There's like a ring of fire

that, you know, encroaches on you as time goes on.

But I'm just kind of like following people and just doing stuff with them as a team.

Yep.

And it rules.

It's so fun.

I'm really, I'm really, really enjoying myself with this game.

My experience, Matt, with it is very similar.

I've only squatted up with strangers.

My first run at a boss, we all got wiped.

My second run at a boss, we all won.

I was with two people who clearly knew each other because i think their names were guzzlord and gaylord and

but the way that they communicated with me is one of them was an archer and he would fire arrows at the thing he wanted me to do oh nice uh which i thought was a nice additional

like i i i know that there are uh beacons and pointers that you can lay over the map so that you can kind of guide like the the

structure of your play um but they're a little um

i don't they're a little obtuse yes you know you don't quite know what it is that somebody wants you to do but he had like an arrow and would like fire at a weapon until i picked it up and i'd be like okay this must be a weapon that i'm supposed to use um

i loved that there's no voice chat oh my god i loved that there's no voice chat i never want to hear a random person playing elden ring's voice

i don't need uh slurs introduced into already a difficult experience.

The things that I love about it, which will come as no surprise, is your movement speed and no fall damage.

Yes.

I was trying so hard to find my way down cliffs because you're trained by Elden Ring that anytime you fall, you die.

And the moment that people ran past me and leapt, and I was like, oh, are they just going to kill themselves?

Yeah.

And then land and keep running.

I was like, oh, oh, boy, it's a

sonic experience, but inside of Elven Ring.

Because then you also, you can book it in.

You can haul ass.

Yeah, yeah.

It is so pleasurable to move in Night Range.

Yes.

And I also like

jumping and climbing stuff.

That's really fun.

I've been using the wilder class, which is your just classic.

strength build uh sword and shield type of type of guy um but i did find a like too big of a hammer you know how the hammers are really big in those games?

And Big Hammer is really, really good.

I'm not usually a strength guy.

I usually go for like the magic builds.

And there is a

magic user that you can select from, but I've just been drawn to just getting in there close and

having a nice time.

But like the hammers do a lot.

Like they, and they can be, they look really big, but you can kind of swing them really fast too.

It's they're really, really fun.

I really appreciate that

the game,

even though you're like funneled into these eight things,

you can pick up anything.

There's, I mean, like, once in a while, I would come up with a weapon and it would be like, you can't use this until you're level 10.

But like, generally speaking, if you're just running as fast as you can, you can pick up anything, you pick up fire pots, you just collect, collect, collect, which is a very different experience than the sort of like, at least in the initial

night boss or whatever the fuck they're called.

Night Lords,

the night lord, that like the initial run didn't have to be meticulous and careful.

It was just kind of like blazing forward, which was really exciting.

I played as the werewolf dude.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I can't remember what that class is called, but yeah.

And each of these, if you haven't played Night Rain, each of these classes has like a special move.

And the special move you get to use like once and then it charges up very slowly.

Every time you defeat something, you get a random selection of bonuses.

Some of those are weapons.

Some of them are like during your run permanent upgrades, very much like Hades or whatever.

Yes.

Yeah, I enjoyed it.

What I did write to you guys is when I dropped in, I was a little bum

because I, I,

you know, my multiplayer experience is absurdist bullshit.

Like it is just comedy constantly.

And finding myself back in the lands between

and being like, you know, the opening cinematic is some sad person saying some sad, awful shit to you.

I was a a little bit like, I don't really have the emotional bandwidth for this in the same way that I did when Elden Ring came out.

Because it had been long enough since the previous Souls game that I was like, okay, I'll dip in.

But it feels like Elden Ring has been kind of semi-present in our lives, especially through DLC, that I was like, this fucking place again.

Yeah.

Kind of bummed me out.

I get that.

It is

very hostile and unpleasant.

Yeah.

Like, there's like,

because it's, but what I like about it is that, like, I don't know, like, I think I like that there's no talking.

Yeah.

Uh, and I do like that, um, I just, I, because I'm already familiar with the game, so like, I already know how to play.

Yeah, so, like, the game,

the game is not going to be, it's, and also that's not player versus player, right?

Right.

So that, like, I'm not going to get taken out by somebody who has all the time in the world to like be good at this game.

Uh, and then I'm coming in, like, you know, having played like only a couple of hours or something and just get gets smoked immediately or whatever.

The idea that we're like working together feels better than us

working against each other.

And I also like,

I just like,

to me, it is dark and scary, but

I just love the way that that game feels.

And

I've missed playing it.

Yeah.

So instead of like replaying it, it's fun to be doing a sort of different activity.

And the way leveling works is really interesting to me is that like in the in those other game in the, in the base game, I think I got to like probably like level like 200 some plus.

Maybe, no, it was like level like 800 or something.

You can get really, really high level.

Uh, I think the highest level I've gotten to this is like seven, but it does make a big difference.

Seven

from level seven to level one, it's a valley.

It's like it, you can become so much stronger and so much more stamina or, you know, whatever.

And I'm just, I'm looking forward to getting back in there and playing more of it

if I have, if I have the time to do so.

I really like,

just last one last thought.

I like that the way you revive other people is by hitting that.

Oh, yes, that is very, very good.

It's pretty good.

It's extremely heather-coated.

Get up, get up, get up.

Wham, wham with a big hammer.

But, you know, if I have time to get back to it, I'll have time to get back to it.

But I'm a little,

my plate's a little full right now, guys.

Right?

I did get the old Switch 2, and I got it right here in my hand.

Wow!

Look at that son, bitch.

This is the first time I physically saw the Switch 2

since it's announced.

Yeah.

Let me tell you something about this thing real quick.

It's pretty good.

It's dinner plate size.

It's about the size.

Yeah, I'll probably eat my dinner on this.

Yeah.

And you held that up like a fish you'd caught.

She's a beauty.

She's a real beaut.

And I will say, she is pretty gorgeous, actually.

It's like you said, it's exactly the switch yeah uh it's a it's it's obviously a bit bigger it feels a little heftier um i really like the

the screen is actually a lot nicer than i thought um it's not an oled screen so fucking weird and very weird very weird but it's not weird they just they're just gonna sell you another one

and i'll do it again i'll buy it again i know but it's just it

There's other ways to upgrade.

They could have sold OLED to open.

Yeah.

And then they could have sold colorways.

They could have sold us with like, yeah, like there's so many other upgrades they could do.

Just start us with the fucking OLED screen.

But like I had them on next to each other and like, may I add like maybe like the OLED's like a little bit brighter, but this isn't, this is no slouch.

This is like a very nice looking shoe.

I've so far have

downloaded Mario Kart World, which was the pack-in with the bundle that I got.

I got

So I did a, I've completed one cup in that.

And that is extremely fun.

Mario Kart's just good.

Like, it's like, it's, it's exactly what you want.

Who did you main?

I picked Mario first.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Game's named after him.

I picked him.

You know who I was almost going to pick, though?

Pauline.

Oh.

Okay.

All right.

Oh, no.

Calm down.

She's.

Is she the yellow one or is she the mayor of Donk City?

She's the mayor of New Donk City.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Donkey Kong kidnapped her back in the day.

That's But now she's, it seems fine.

I guess they get along now.

They get along now.

Do you think that in the story of Mario Kart that all these characters put aside their like narratively consistent canonical rivalries and they get together to race?

Or do you think that this is a separate reality where none of these people

are they actors

or are they characters and this is a different instance?

It's like Earth Prime to me.

It's like a different reality.

You think so?

Yeah.

Because like I know that in

Smash Brothers, they're not the characters.

They're not the characters.

They're like dolls that come to life.

Yes.

But I don't know if the Except for Sephirothi's reality.

Yeah.

Decides he's going to kill a bunch of toys.

But so far, I've just had the initial setup stuff.

You can do a system transfer, which then's transferred everything from my Switch OLED onto here.

And I've done the upgrades for

Tears of the Kingdom and Breath of the Wild because I have Nintendo Switch online.

So those are available to me for free.

And I have the GameCube Nintendo Classics emulator thing, and I'm very excited.

I'm pretty sure that my first game that I'm going to complete on this is Wind Waker, which is very funny to me.

And then I also got the Street Fighter VI port

because I've been wanting to play it more.

And I feel like for some reason I'll play it more if it's on my Switch.

That's great.

I'm,

you know, my main squad game is on the Switch 2 and apparently runs pretty well and comes with a brand new emote all you have to do is log in and

get like a switch specific emote cool what's the emote you catch a falling star and then you you're happy with it and you kind of

I have that downloaded as well so hopefully

I'll see you on there or something when you get your hand on yours yep

Should I do the magnetic

thing?

I'll do it into the microphone.

I don't know if it doesn't make that much noise.

Okay.

Pretty cool.

Pretty cool.

Right.

Oh, it's wow.

Pretty good.

And then, like, Matt just

detached the Joy-Con and reattached it for people who are listening.

That exposed pin, like that, the place where it connects is so nerve-wracking to me.

It's very scary to me as well.

But it seems like it's not really going to be a problem.

I also have the pro controller coming, so these will probably not get detached too, too much.

Sure.

Yeah.

But the point of

connection on on there, the magnet seems so strong.

It doesn't, they like, you know how like on the base one, like they're kind of, they're on rails, so like they can get a little wiggly.

That isn't doesn't, it's, this feels like one solid piece, which is very interesting to me.

Wow.

And yeah, I'm just happy to have it.

Have you tried the mouse?

I've not tried the mouse yet.

Okay.

I'm not.

I'm not going to fucking do that.

I'm not very interested in the mouse, to be honest.

Are you really?

Maybe for Metroid Prime, but I don't, I'm not, I was never a mouse controls guy to begin with.

I gotta try it.

Yeah, so

I'll give it a shot, but

I'm not too interested in it.

I wonder if the

Mario, the Mario Galaxy

Switch version will implement that because there was more of a motion thing with that that I haven't I haven't messed around with and I've been trying to, I think I might want to play through Mario Galaxy since there's not a Mario for this just now.

You won't be disappointed.

It's a great game.

Can't wait.

Are you going to be able to use like mouse look on Fortnite, you know, with with the Switch 2?

I mean,

you could conceivably to aim.

Interesting.

So who knows?

Maybe, I mean, hey, maybe I will have to do it.

But then

I just play on the couch.

So, like, what am I going to have to have a fucking mouse pad or something?

Somebody like Hori is going to release like a a lap pad where you just have like a plate that goes on your lap and locks onto your leg.

Yeah.

And then you can like move your mouse around on your leg.

I'm going to put my dinner on that too.

I can't be putting my dinner on all this stuff.

You can put your dinner on the switch too.

Okay.

And you put the mouse on the lap pad.

I also got the camera.

Okay.

And I thought the camera, for some reason, I thought it was bigger.

Yeah.

It's like.

Tiny.

I know what everyone's gonna say.

This is actually pretty big.

This is big.

It's this little.

It's not.

What is your what size would you say you were gesturing to there?

Like a stack of flapjacks?

Maybe the length of a number.

What's that measurement?

What is that?

I don't know, a few pancakes.

That's a lot of pancakes, Nick.

Yeah, man.

I'm pretty hungry.

Got a hard day's work.

I've been on a pancake kick recently, though, and let me tell you something.

I think I might have to change my order.

What is that?

From what to what?

Well, maybe pancakes is always number one.

We've done this too many times.

We've done this too many times.

But

pancakes are so fucking good.

We've done what so many times.

We break them.

We break the French toast.

I do French toast, waffles, pancakes.

Everyone yells at me.

Yeah, well, you're a fucking idiot.

That's why.

French toast, waffles, pancakes.

Yeah, that's my order.

That's actually, you know what?

That's pretty good.

I still like pancakes.

Yeah, they're all good.

They're getting the bronze medal.

It's not like one of them's like shit or something.

Rochelle, what's your ranking?

Waffles,

pancakes, French toast.

It's fine.

Ranch is valid.

I think Ranch is right, actually.

Mine's pancakes, waffles, French toast.

Just real quick.

Waffle first.

And then just by, it's not because I don't like French toast.

It's that I don't normally trust a store French toast.

Yeah.

So if I'm not making the French toast, I'm not going to order it because it's usually too eggy for me.

Well, yeah.

So I usually have waffles.

Your phone has none in French.

Can't get that down.

Eggs open.

Get it open.

Yep.

I hear you.

I don't even remember what I was saying.

Oh, so bullshit.

It's about like the size of eating shell-crusted bread.

All of Heather's Easter eggs are full.

Okay.

Okay.

They'd say that the camera is about the length of a number two pencil.

Okay.

The length?

What?

Maybe you're cow.

It's as tall as a number two pencil as long, is what you're saying?

I think so.

Okay.

That's huge.

But it's also like as thin as a number two pencil.

And then the.

Oh, so it's skinny.

It's skinny.

And then the camera is about the size of uh

it's a little bit bigger than a uh a Reese's mini

I've no I don't know what I'm

it's about a size of a

the cap from a Sobey what the fuck is a Sobey

Is that a drink?

I think it's a discontinued Sobey Life Water?

I don't even know what it is, but okay.

I got the camera and it's dumb and I got it.

I don't have any games that can utilize it currently, I think.

Oh, Mario Kart World.

Oh, yeah.

Well, yeah, of course.

I'm going to be chatting with my friends and looking at each other while we're playing Mario Kart World, certainly.

Oh, fucking weird.

But I'm just excited to have it, and I'm excited that the Switch 2 is finally out.

I'm glad you got one.

You should tell a story a bit about

you scoring one today.

Okay, so yes, this was...

This is a.

This is what happened.

So I have a pre-order.

I still actively do have a pre-order.

as do I have not received mine yet for a retailer that has not really been updating the way I would like

and and now the it's now coming on Sunday okay and for me the host of a video game podcast I felt like I had a responsibility oh wow I felt like I had to come in here and be like I got my hands on the switch too I got to give the listeners what they want they want to hear what we're saying about the switch too it's true

Last night Wednesday night, I'm thinking maybe I stopped by Best Buy.

And I'm hearing hearing it's a debacle.

It's crazy over at the Best Buy close to me.

Okay.

It's also close.

Well, I won't say who's close to it.

It's close to me.

And that's all you need to know about the Best Buy.

And so I'm like, ah, maybe I'll just have to wait.

I wake up this morning.

My Switch 2 says it's coming on Sunday now.

It's not going to work for me, cha-cha.

No fucking way.

Are you fucking kidding me?

I get a text.

I wake up, it's like 7:30.

Kind of late for me.

You're an early riser?

I've been getting up earlier.

Yeah.

7's like the

about the right time.

6.30, 7 o'clock is the zone.

Are we all early risers?

Yeah, we are.

I think I get up in the 6 to 7 range.

Yeah.

5.30 to 6.30 for me.

Rochelle, when do you wake up?

7.30.

Okay, all right.

Look at us.

Morning crew.

Morning crew.

Just record in the morning.

It'd be great.

We had done it in the past, and the thing about it is it is good.

I feel like

you did it in the morning when I was in Amsterdam.

Oh, that's right.

We loved that.

I loved it.

Yeah.

We hated that you were far away.

But like, if we showed up with coffees and did a record in the morning, that's excellent.

That's pretty good.

I'd do it.

Make it happen.

Give me the rest of my life.

Do two records, get big breakfast in between instead of lunch or dinner?

Oh, but this fucking stack of flapjacks for those most of the time.

Ordering in pancakes.

What a nightmare.

And so I wake up, it's like 7.30.

I already have a bunch of texts from my friend, Jeremy, who's already in line at another retailer next to us.

He's like, I've been here since 5.30.

There's 11 people here.

It seems like everybody that's in line is going to get one.

And it seems like there's plenty to go around.

I got a free morning.

Yeah.

I'm like,

I'm on my way.

I get there not five minutes before they're about to open.

And I'm like, how's it looking still?

And he's like, seems like there's still plenty.

I get there.

I'm the 19th person in line.

Wow.

They hand me a ticket.

I go in.

I'm in the store for like five minutes.

I get my Switch 2.

I get a nice little tote bag, a sticker sheet, a keychain.

And I get out of there.

And I get a Switch 2.

I didn't even, I barely, I rolled out of bed and went straight to the store.

I didn't.

No delay at all.

I got one.

And then friend of the show,

Zig, Cody Ziggler is going to be the recipient of my delayed pre-order.

That is,

so there we go.

Yeah, there we go.

Everybody gets a switch to here, folks.

We love it.

That's great.

Ranch, you're going to get a switch too, or you

sitting pretty with a Steam Deck still.

I don't need it.

Yeah.

I like the Steam Deck.

Ranch hates baby games.

Too much of a real gamer.

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Nick, you haven't said what you've been playing.

Heather, thank you so much for asking.

I want to first shout out a game that I picked up on Steam that I have not gotten a chance to put any time into yet, but I like that this game exists and I like this developer, Strange Scaffold, also made click holding and I am your beast.

There's a nice Maddie Meyer, speaking of friends of the show, Maddie Meyer is the great triple click podcast, is a polygon piece when making lots of small games is more sustainable than making a big one.

And it's a discussion with the studio,

Strange Scaffold's creative director, Zalavier Nelson Jr., I think that's how you say his name, about how they keep budgets manageable by limiting the scope of their games.

So this is like a six-hour game.

And it's like,

I don't know.

I just, I kind of like that.

Obviously, you'd want to hear from developers who work in

the stable as far as their experiences, not just the ownership, but like it sounds like a good governing philosophy for an indie studio.

Just like, we're going to make a bunch of smaller games instead of trying to make these

sprawling.

you know, more

lengthier games that are just tougher to develop and tougher to make profitable.

But yeah, I mean, I'm going to get, I more just wanted to shout this game out for existing.

I like that they made a tactics game with the Ninja Turtles because why not?

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Yeah.

I'm down with that.

Yeah.

But I'll have some Ans-On Impressions next week.

Part of the reason I didn't put any time into this is because I am

battling a full-blown Bellatro addiction once again.

I uninstalled this game like a year ago because I was like, I just can't have this on any devices anymore.

And now I got it on

both Game Pass on PC and Apple Arcade Plus, and I'm just ripping through achievements.

I

didn't have a lot of time this past week, and I put another 30 hours into Game Pass.

Sounds like he had some time.

What the fuck is that?

He had a little bit of time, it sounds like.

I love gamer math, though.

Yeah.

Because, like, oh, I don't have a ton of time.

What I mean played 30 hours.

That's what I mean.

What I mean is that, like, every free moment I had, I was spending with Bellatro and eight hours a day for six days.

Is that partly why I maybe don't feel like I had a lot of time?

Yeah, maybe.

Maybe that's part of the issue here.

The thing about the game is that it's you kind of feel like you're not spending that much time with it, even when you are.

Yeah.

Well, it's also

so many games now are not drop-in.

like Bellatra is a drop-in game, but there's still a pretty significant footprint to each of those rounds.

But it's true.

Time to game, though, is very fast.

You can start, like, you glue it up.

You're in a game immediately.

Yeah, you're in a game.

It's pretty easy to pick up on a run and reorient yourself on where you're going.

There's a lot of like UX elements that will tell you, like, oh, okay, oh, right.

These are my Jokers.

These are all my most frequently played hands.

I was doing this flush build or whatever the fuck.

But also, but again, part of what's getting, what got me, and I mentioned this last week back on this, is that because it's on Game Pass, I was like, well, I have another place I can get the achievements on.

And I,

whatever, love getting the achievements.

Talking about the Impact Bowl vibes, this game actually does help me get ready to go to sleep, which is one good thing.

I'm not staying up late.

Like, I'm getting sleepy while I'm playing this game at night.

So that's helpful.

But...

Part of why it's just such a joy to play is it's from a design standpoint, it's so delightful the way the jokers synergize with each other.

People know Bellatro, I guess, just real quick, in case anyone has never played it and isn't super familiar with it, it's basically like you're playing, it's a roguelike where you're playing hands of poker, and you get some jokers that are sticky on your screen, and each of those jokers does some sort of modification to either give you a bonus or alter the rules of your particular run.

And so, here was a run where I recently had the I had these two jokers that synergized well together that I was like not anticipating like having as a duo.

And it was kind of like one of those things where it's like, oh, I see how this is supposed to work as soon as it happened.

Trading card.

This is one, if the first discard

only has one card, destroy it and gain $3.

And then the burnt Joker,

upgrade the level of the first discarded poker hand.

So I was just endlessly discarding low-ranked cards.

They'd get destroyed, thinning out my deck, tilting it more towards high-value cards.

And then I'd get money as a result.

And simultaneously, by discarding a single card or by deciding,

discarding a hand that had, you know, just,

you know, no,

didn't have anything more complicated than that, I was upgrading high card every time.

So high card is just like, the level of that is just skyrocketing.

By the end of this run, I had like a 30-card deck that was mostly tens and face cards.

And I beat the final boss blind with a single high card hand because high card was like level 27.

It was just like, it was, those sort of moments where the game just feels like it's happening automatically or so satisfying.

And that's what's so great about putting you this game just putting you into that flow state.

I also never really did the challenge runs previously.

I can't even remember if they were even in the launch version, if that was later added, but I've gotten deep into those.

They're very, very fun.

You know, these are basically like it'll be like a gimmick run where you'll have like five copies of the egg joker, which gains value with each hand, but no other way to grind money but to sell one of those egg jokers.

So it's just a matter of like, like, you know, how deep, how much do I want to risk in order to get some

payout?

And then that's just the amount of money I have.

So how do I do I allocate those funds?

Anyway, again,

there's a reason I deleted this game.

And it now basically occupies all of my thoughts.

It's really a destructive force in my life, and I regret getting back into it.

But it's fucking great.

It's a great game.

Yeah, it's just such a well-designed game.

It's just, it's, I don't know.

I think I said this before.

I think it's like a nearly just perfect design.

It's a really good incredible design.

Yeah.

And

it's also just

aesthetically so pleasing.

Yeah.

And just those, those two,

speaking of synergies, that, that really synergizes as well, where it just makes you feel good to play it and feel very bad about your life.

All right, let's talk about the Switch and the Switch 2, or I guess just the Switch.

What are we doing exactly?

We're talking about the Switch, and we're saying

goodbye.

We're saying RIP Nintendo Switch, hello, Switch 2.

That's right.

I was looking through the timeline for the Nintendo Switch, and it has been close to 10 years since it was announced.

October of 2016 was the first Nintendo Switch teaser.

I will cop to being completely wrong about the Switch because it was coming off of the Wii U, which I owned and enjoyed some games for, but was a complete debacle.

And I thought like Nintendo has lost it.

And I see there basically, it felt like they were doubling down on the Wii U when

this is being announced and when the details are coming out.

And I'm also like, no one wants that.

It's just like, it's just a phone with like extra shit on it, like with extra handles.

And then also, like, I can just have a more powerful console that's just hooked up to my TV.

This feels like this is satisfying.

Neither of those things.

I was extremely wrong.

Could not have been more wrong.

But I really thought this was going to be the Switch was going to be their last console.

Hurrah.

It was going to flop.

They were going to finish third place.

Nintendo was going to become a company that was centered around not hardware, but its IP.

This is a huge shock to me, Nick, because I was going into the Switch more hyped about the Switch than I had been for a Nintendo console in a very,

very long time.

I was like, oh, this is everything.

This is everything.

I remember doing an improv show like the night or two after

the Switch was announced where the scene initiation was us just throwing chairs around and screaming the Nintendo Switch is so cool.

And like everybody in the audience knew what we were talking about.

And it was just like an infectious, I don't remember, obviously, what the suggestion was, but it was such an infectious scene could it have been the nintendo switch is cool huh could they have somebody oh that was the suggestion

but but it was like there was for at least in my experience my personal little world bubble the hype was through the roof It certainly, by the time it came out, it had be like that had we'd gone a little bit more towards that direction.

I guess I'm more talking about like in the run-up to its eventual release.

Like once we have like, hey, Breath of the Wild is coming on this sumbitch.

There's going to be new Mario out this year.

I do remember trying to seek out a, and, and, and, a, uh, a friend helping me find a Switch, I think actually at Target, because it was like, you know, a bit of a tricky thing to find at first.

Um,

but yeah, and I, I don't know, in the run-up, I was just like, I was skeptical because it felt like, well, like, what is Nintendo doing?

Their last two hardware,

you know, like items were the 3DS and the, which I, which did pretty well, not as well as the DS.

It wasn't the world beater that the DS was, and the Wii U, which both felt like kind of just kind of janky,

even though I like games on both of them.

I don't know.

Anyway, I'm just admitting to being a dip shit, admitting to being completely fucking wrong.

Ladies and gentlemen, we got it.

But it just kind of speaks to like,

I think even people who thought this was going to succeed did not think it was going to succeed to the point where it is currently the second biggest selling console of all time and probably will be number one

when all is said and done.

I'll say for me, I had never owned a Nintendo console before.

Whoa!

So, this was my first one.

Obviously, I had a Game Boy Color, a Game Boy Advance, a DS, and I was like hesitant to get a 3DS even because I liked my DS quite a bit.

But I was like, oh, 3D, I don't know.

And then it took me seeing it in person

with somebody playing it to be like, I got to get one of these.

And I didn't get one right away.

I got one.

I got the

Ocarina of time edition one so that one's what that wasn't at launch i believe um

and so then with the switch i was kind of like oh yeah i guess i i've never owned a a nintendo console before uh i wasn't like a hundred percent that interested in it and then my friend connor uh was like matt i got the switch You got to come over.

On launch day, he invited me over to his place.

He had invited a bunch of buds over.

He's like, we got to see what the switch is.

The switch is going to be crazy.

We played one, two, Switch.

I was like, this is unbelievable.

This is so crazy.

We had a lot of fun playing the,

what is that called?

Oh, like the cowboy dueling

game and that.

That was fun.

And I wasn't that even interested in Breath of the Wild, which was dumb.

I didn't know.

I was like not really ever played a Zelda at that point.

So I was like, oh, I don't know.

And then I didn't get one until,

I think, the holiday season after launch.

The launch was March 3rd, 2017.

That was when it launched worldwide.

And yes, as you mentioned, Legend Zelda, Breath of the Wild, a launch title.

Yes, because I got mine when, yeah, it was around Christmas.

I got it.

And then I also got

Super Mario Odyssey.

And that was the only game I had for a little while.

Yeah, and this, you know, as far as as far as its first year goes,

Splatoon 2, I think the other big game, because that was just like, I mean, that's a franchise that is,

you know, a recent Nintendo franchise that's that's really popular and really their big multiplayer franchise.

But Mario Odyssey came out on October 27th.

And

I don't know, it was by then it was pretty much evident that this thing was working.

Like

everyone who got their hands on it was like,

oh, I see.

I understand the appeal that I can play a, again, the novelty of like, I can play effectively a current generation console game in handheld mode.

Like, that felt like something new.

It felt like, too, that, like, the,

just, to go back to like the gimmick of it,

like, was,

I think, um, more, like, more present in the early goings of Switch, where, like, you know, you're flinging your wrists to be cappy or whatever and throw that around.

ARMS was a big one.

Yes.

Arms.

I remember buying arms and and being like, oh, hey, how about this?

And then I'm just like, yeah, I don't give a shit about this.

I mean, it's like,

yeah,

I think the motion controls element, which again are still going to persist with the Switch 2, but it's ultimately been de-emphasized.

It's mostly

a console that people control, like a conventional console.

Yeah, I don't know that there's a game that people are still going crazy with really these days anymore.

Maybe the Mario or WarioWare

games and then maybe the the the mario party ones but nothing else there was also a lot of front-loading of like like splatoon and arms were like new ip right and so there was already this i think there was splatoon 2 that came out so i think there was a splatoon on wii u i think so wait hold on let me look this up i splatoon eludes me i don't understand it and i i i don't i don't think i care to investigate and i'm happy for the people that have it and they i know that people love it i i know that people love it very much i don't like the character design and i'm yucky to me that's a that is a shitty barrier of entry for me but it's the same with like world of warcraft i was like i don't like the aesthetic here i don't want to be making a mess but there was i feel like there was early on an emphasis on trying new things with the switch too or with the switch and like arms i think whatever the splatoon title was yeah it was two the original splatoon was a a wii u game that came out in 2015.

wow but it was like, hey, we're going to try new stuff.

Our experiences are going to be strange.

The Nintendo Labo was like a really wild product.

I bought the piano Labo and built the little piano and was like using it to make the

Wii console

operating system music.

Like it was.

I don't know.

There was kind of a joyousness to all of it.

Yeah, they were just trying stuff.

I mean, the Labo was, or Labo was the like, was like the most the most like classic nintendo move i feel like of the whole switch era of just like we're gonna have this weird uh fucking cardboard peripheral yeah that did like i you that you just you're just looking at it's like this this isn't gonna work like i know they're putting it out this isn't gonna work i'm gonna get it i never i never i never got it um there's like always a little bit of like there's always extra things that they have yeah like amiibos even like i know people that have like a vast collection of amiibos you're looking at one i well yeah you got you have a lot of them.

I kind of like with stuff like that, I wasn't able to really like participate right away.

And that type of thing to me, I would like to have been on the ground floor on and got every single one.

Because like the amount that I have, not great.

You're in the mushy middle.

Yeah, exactly.

I have quite a few of them,

but not enough where I could be like, check this shit out.

Yeah, sure.

I wish I had every single one.

The display that they have at the store in New York when I went, I was like, like, this is, I love looking at this.

I like seeing all of them.

They're all cool.

They're very

well done.

Yes.

Like they're not like, like, because they're not articulate in any, articulated in any way, they're little statues and the statues are all on model.

Like none of the eyes are painted in the wrong places.

None of like the detail.

Like if you zoom in really, really tightly on an action figure, sometimes you'll have like that, yeah, the eye will be like, they'll be wall-eyed and their mouth will be painted on their cheek.

Yeah.

and it's like ah what a bummer we every one of the amiibos is like wow this is like

what would be the prototype inside of nintendo where they're like we want them to look like this except the whole line looks like this this is what they would put on the box yeah

what it could look like yeah

uh i i think i think to return to something you said earlier heather I think, yes, arms felt new.

Certainly, like, like Breath of the Wild is such a different take on Zelda.

I think it's like, kind of like we live in the now the world where that's just what the Zelda language is, what the Zelda canon is, but it was like such a departure from kind of how those games play.

Yeah.

And then, um, and, and Splatoon 2, I think because the Wii U had basically no impact, Splatoon 2 felt new.

I feel like that was kind of like the introduction to the gamer public at large.

And so, yeah, that first year, it was like there was a lot happening.

And a lot of consoles have like pretty bare bones launches and pretty bad first years.

It just takes a while for things to get going.

And PlayStation 5, even like it felt like they're mostly like, okay, we're just getting the games that are also coming out on PlayStation 4.

There's no reason to actually have one of these.

I mean, the Switch 2 launched with just Mario Kart.

And I think Mario Kart's a great launch title.

It's the biggest game on

the base Switch, but there's not like there's not three launch titles, right?

There's not like three major, or you know, even a second major Nintendo game at launch.

Obviously, we have Bonanza coming out next month, but there's not a, there's the benefit of the Switch 2 is that you can also just play all of your Switch.

You have the Switch 1 library.

Yeah, but

that, I mean, like, it

makes a draw comparison to PlayStation 2, which is the other, you know, like, it's like.

the next

generation of the same thing with full backwards compatibility.

And part of the novelty is someone who got a PlayStation 2 at launch, and there was fucking nothing to play.

That was like a horrible launch.

A bouncer.

Yeah.

Absolutely sucked.

And it was just a bunch of mediocre games.

But it kind of didn't matter because it was just like the novelty of like, oh, wait, I can play my PlayStation 1 games and they load faster and they look better.

I can watch Austin Power.

Yeah, Matt, absolutely.

Yes.

I can fire up this Matrix DVD.

Yeah.

Like that, like, it's, it's, and it's the kind of thing, like, you compare that with the Dreamcast launch, which was so great.

Just like three or four just banger launch titles.

Just like, like, maybe launches just don't matter.

Maybe, maybe just like it's like the lifespan of the hardware is

it's more important what happens over the years as opposed to what happens in the launch window because early adopters are going to get it anyway.

I also think that to some degree, these generations are starting to be defined by like three games over the lifetime of the console.

And if you have those three massive games, like your Grand Theft Auto 3,

like your, your Last of Us on the PlayStation 3, like if you have like the big flagship title.

Hey, the Halos on the Xbox.

Yeah, the Halos.

Then the rest of the video.

They have one too.

They also have

the good games too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Then the console is sort of under the umbrella of that title.

Right.

Which has always been weird with PlayStation because it never seems like you know what that one's going to be.

Like they're always, for example, trying to push Horizon as like the title that's going to happen.

Yes.

And it comes and goes without any sort of cultural footprint.

But like there's always some title on the PlayStation and it's like, oh shit, did you play this?

Everybody's playing this.

I feel like for the, for the,

for the last like few years, it's been Elden Ring.

Yeah.

Like that was the cultural moment where everybody was playing the same game.

Yeah, and

obviously this is like, this is a larger thing about just how just gaming in the really the 21st century, but specifically the 2010s on when basically everything becomes, except for first-party games, become

on every platform.

Yeah.

It's like, I mean, like,

one of the launch titles you picked up, Matt, is Cyberpunk 2077.

It's so strange for that to be on Nintendo Switch.

I make a Switcher 3 got his Switch port, I believe.

But it just feels weird for that to be on Switch 2, but now just like everything is on everything.

That's just the.

And it's a game that if I wanted portably, I could have bought on Steam and didn't buy on Steam on my Steam Deck.

You could play it on your portal.

I could play it on my portal.

But to me.

It has a slightly larger screen than the Switch 2.

To me, it was very funny that the entirety of the game is on a tiny little card.

Yeah.

I think there's also the tremendous novelty of just being able to see a hog on a Nintendo console.

Yeah, that's going to be interesting.

You get to hop into that character creation screen and toggle between penis one, penis two, Volva, and off.

I think I might do an off-play.

Yeah, that is my way to go.

This will be my off-play through for this one.

Also, in 2018, we had the launch of Nintendo Switch Online, which is like, I was like, oh, I forgot that that wasn't a part of the Switch from the get-go.

Interesting.

That came a little bit later.

But yeah, cloud saves, classic NES games, later, like other classic.

And it's just like, it's like Nintendo is so annoying.

Like you want to, like, hey, it's cool that we have access to these games.

It's cool that it's actually a pretty

decent shell for playing these, you know, that you can, you can pause and rewind all these quality of life things that are in there.

But it's also just like, like, the game curation is weird.

Like, there's certain like gaps that exist.

Like,

I don't know.

I send certain things in their library and certain things aren't, you know.

Yeah, like Mother 3, still not available.

But also, did you guys see that there's a CRT filter for the new Nintendo Switch Online stuff?

Oh, for sure.

I didn't know that.

Oh, interesting.

Yeah, so that you can fuzz it out a little bit so it looks a little bit more authentically like the experience was designed to look.

Nice.

I'm not a fan of that particular CRT filter, but I really, really, really applaud the

inclusion of it.

Yeah.

That feels like a non-Nintendo move, kind of acknowledging, like, oh, people might like the retro aesthetic, you know?

Yeah, it feels like they're oftentimes seeming to run away from that.

2019, we had the Switch Light.

And I mean, I got a Switch Light.

I actually really liked my Switch Light.

I love the Switch Light.

The Switch Light, I think, is...

Just the unibody construction so great.

It's the switch, I think.

Now, if they did a switch light OLED, that would have been that's what I really want, yeah.

And honestly, if they did that now, I'd probably buy kind of think I would too, which is kind of crazy.

In the aftermath,

I now own a switch to yeah, I own the second one, but like because I know they're they're not gonna do a I don't know how impossible it would be for them to do a switch to light.

I hope they do a switch to, I hope.

Here's their their three their three pathways on the switch.

I hope they do a switch to light a switch to oled and a switch to xl

oh like an even bigger one yep

give me give me a big

one i'll have the big one well but i i say that because

the tablet technology like the new ipads weigh the same as a phone yeah yeah like they're they're so thin and they are so light that it's like i'm i don't even feel like i'm holding a device anymore so you could maximize the real estate on that screen and have it be a big big screen big big boy and it wouldn't like that's kind of what yeah that's kind of what the portal did is like the screen is a huge screen but then did they have to make the joy-cons bigger or do the same size joy-cons just snap into i think the

same size joy-cons with a big screen call it the xl look i like it i i think i think i think they should go the other way actually and make a small one make this make a very small one that you could put in your pocket actually the switch mini yeah switch to mini i want the commercial to be like, you're a big dog.

This one's for the big boys.

They get Sam Elliott to do it.

I'm watching this.

Like, yeah, all right.

It's finally a Switch for me.

He's talking to me.

I'm the big dog.

I want to, as long as we're being nostalgic about the Switch, I want to take a moment to talk about how...

Breath of the Wild was everywhere.

Like when I, when I was talking about like, you just need the three or four games that define a console and it doesn't matter how strong your launch is, that being said, the Switch launching with Breath of the Wild was crazy.

Like, people I didn't, who weren't gamers were like, hey, do you have Breath of the Wild?

Yes.

Like, it was, and this was also like peak Twitter era.

So, like, there were constantly people talking about it online.

Like, it felt.

It felt very significant.

And it's very lucky that that game, which was developed for the Wii U

and incorporated the concept of the Wii U controller into the gameplay, was so easily shifted into the slate.

Right, yes.

Because like the Sheikah Slate is supposed to be the Wii U controller.

Yes.

I don't know.

I don't think often about

Breath of the Wild as like one of my, you know, favorite games or anything.

But at the time, I was like, this is a really, really, really, really great experience.

And the truth is, I think that was diluted a little bit by Tears of the Kingdom.

I didn't like Tears of the Kingdom as much.

I love Breath of the Wild.

I played the shit out of Breath of the Wild.

You're right, Heather, that I do know a number of people who are casual gamers or even would even call themselves non-gamers that A, own a Nintendo Switch and B, have put hundreds of hours into Breath of the Wild specifically.

Yeah, because I think it's just like, hey, maybe you have nostalgia for whatever Zelda you grew up on.

And it's like, oh, it's a new Zelda.

But it's so playable because it just really has perfected kind of the open world formula that we're all kind of exhausted by now.

But it's like kind of just like the best version of that.

Yeah, it was interesting that it took me so many times.

I think it took Tears of the Kingdom getting announced for me to actually give Breath of the Wild a fair shake again.

I probably started it and bounced off of it a few times, but then once I got into it, I was like, oh, I don't know what I was, I don't know what the fuck was wrong with me.

It's so good.

But I think I'm one of the the maybe rare people that

liked tears more than Breath of the Wild because I liked building stuff.

I enjoyed building stuff, but at a certain point, I was just like, this just feels like a game about crafting.

And I just got less invested and I got kind of burned out.

I think also just because I put so much time into Breath of the Wild and it's just like, in a way, it's kind of like more Breath of the Wild.

I kind of want to play through them both again, but with the new Switch 2 version version.

Maybe that'll get me playing through all of Tears of the Kingdom because there is stuff in that game I really like.

It's weird that Breath of the Wild is now a three-generation game.

It's very Last of Us.

It's very Grand Theft Auto V.

Yeah.

Very Witcher 3.

I mean, I feel like these games just have long, long shelf lives now.

People keep playing them.

Matt, so like, as far as games for you, there was in 2019 Pokemon Sword and Shield comes out in November of that year.

Now, I could be wrong.

This is the first proper Pokemon game for a home console, right?

They were all on handhelds previously.

I mean, there were obviously things like Pokemon Snap, but as far as like, here's

Pokemon Stadium, yeah.

This is this is the main line.

Because Nintendo had now merged its handheld and console lines into the Nintendo Switch, we finally had a Pokemon that you could play on your TV.

Yes, and this was very exciting to me because I had never seen that before.

And I remember when I booted it up, I had like a tear in my eye because I was playing Pokemon on my TV and I was like, look how far we've come.

And then was like, this game's okay.

I put some significant time into Pokemon on the Switch.

Yeah.

And I was also like, kind of just,

it felt beige.

It was like kind of boring.

And like, it was still pretty like ugly.

Yeah.

I don't know if that was ever.

remedied, but it was like kind of an ugly game.

It doesn't seem like something they'd fix.

Okay.

I know that the new uh that Scarlet Violet has received a enhancement as well, and I'm interested in getting back in there and looking at

an unpolished turd run at 60 frames per second.

I do like the game fine, but

there's like, look, I'm going to need to be playing stuff on my Switch too.

There's like, I can get back in there.

Why not?

Why don't they just make it a fucking classic?

Like...

Who wouldn't buy classic Pokemon except when you're in the battle screen, it's 3D?

Look, I would take HD2D even.

I don't need it to be

we know better than this multi-billion dollar company.

We do.

Here's the thing.

I think I fucking do.

They do a bad job.

They do a strange job.

Yes.

It's not a bad job.

Everybody loves it.

Everybody bought the Switch.

It's just weird.

I don't know.

I mean, like,

Pokemon is not my franchise, but you can speak to this more.

But I feel like

these games could be as polished and as aesthetically pleasing as like other flagship Nintendo first-party efforts.

It feels like these games are they have a bit of jank to them.

Yeah.

And

it's just like you want them to like, can they at least like look and sound awesome consistently, you know?

You know, I did like the soundtrack of Scarlet and Violet quite a bit, actually, but I think the thing that, and this is not a good enough of a reason, those games, these games are primarily for children.

They're not people, they're not designed for people who are like pixel hunting and like frame, you know, concerned about frame rate and things like that.

They're just like, they are, they're for children.

And so I think there's just like less of an emphasis on making them look good and like interesting to the people who would find that interesting, like us or, you know, whoever, any adult that's been playing the games for a long time, versus a kid who watched just to see like their favorite little guys, which is also me.

So

I'm sort of, you know, I'm a man with no country here.

I don't know what side of it I'm supposed to be on.

But

side note, Matt, I am so brokenhearted that Trubbish and Garbodera, or how do you, how do you say it?

Is it Garbodor?

I don't know.

Garbodor?

Garbodor?

Garburger?

Garbodor.

Yeah.

Are both basically unplayable cards in Pokemon the card game pocket.

Look, I don't know who to talk to about it.

It's frustrating.

I tried just because I wanted to see my boys.

I'm hopeful that the next one,

I mean, so far from what I've seen, it doesn't look that nice.

Oh, well.

But I'm hoping that it's good.

I did pre-order it today straight from the Pokemon Center because it comes with a free mystery plush.

Hey, there you go.

I'm thinking about maybe whatever plush I get will be the starter that I pick.

That might be kind of fun.

That's cute.

2020.

Obviously, we have the COVID-19 pandemic, which corresponds really closely with with the launch of Animal Crossing New Horizons.

And I mean, that you, you know, you talk about the game of the moment.

I mean, that was like really,

I feel like what everyone, everyone, like, first off, there was a rush on Switch hardware.

Like, like, people were trying to get their hands on Switches because everyone was so stir-crazy and just wanted something to do.

And it felt like the world was ending.

But also, Animal Crossing,

as has been talked about to death,

it gave people a sense of community.

and it was like a game about like being outside with your friends.

Yes, yeah, and then you can get on, you can visit each other's islands and see people you haven't been able to see

safely.

And then you can download Nintendo's bad app and then talk with people in the bad app.

What a weird, weird moment.

Like

Mary is, you know, kind of a dip-in, dip-out gamer, my wife, Mary.

And she went, she was fully committed to Animal Crossing for those few months before, like from March until July of that year.

That was like hours and hours of her day when she wasn't working remotely.

It was, it was wild to see.

I've talked about this before,

but

our friend Alexis Quasarano had a

just a

like I like I thought it was like, hey, I built a little tiki bar on my island.

My island's doing pretty good.

And then I visited her island and it was just like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

It was like the most gorgeous like art installation I'd ever seen.

That's the thing.

Like visiting people's islands was such a bummer to me because like fuck this is so much better than mine.

I have such a like I have I have such poor planning skills in that department.

So like trying to make it nice like

there would always be some other problem.

It'd be like sort of like plugging a hole in a boat that has a hole in it and then another one would pop up like well this is just all of this is now just kind of like wrong.

And so I'd see people on there and see what their islands did.

And I liked theirs, but mine was always just a fucking mess and a disaster.

One of my favorite memories was Nick visiting my island, and I dug a hole in front of him and typed in the chat, get in.

I had forgotten about my island until I saw screenshots or something recently.

And I'd, my island, I had,

I had,

I don't don't know the word that's the least

bad.

Half of the island was my house with a huge barrier of trees all the way around it.

And it was immaculately landscaped and felt like Versailles with like a single entry point and an extremely long walkway, like halfway up the island to get to the house.

And the rest I had like.

crammed everybody together and didn't do anything.

So it looked like I was like, like a king with, and I raised that part of the island so it was much higher than everybody else.

That's so funny.

You're a feudal lord, and these are the peasants toiling on your land.

Yeah, I was a feudal lord.

And when I would, like,

also, because the pathway to get into the gardens of my house were so, was so like far removed from everything, I almost never had people wandering around in the gardens.

It was pretty, it was pretty fun.

I really, this is the, the, uh, Animal Crossing I finally got super into.

Uh, I'd played some previously, and we talked about this when we did our episode on it, but it's just like,

yeah, it's just the perfect game for that nightmarish time.

And it also, you know, like, I, I, it weirdly

games for games in that era in general kind of weirdly gave me a sense of purpose just because I had tasks, you know what I mean?

And this one in particular, I think just because you were building something and it was about community.

And because also it's like light and wholesome and kind of low stakes, you know, it's a, and hey, it's gonna hurt that Isabel's in it.

That's my wife.

Um,

uh, I remember that, you know, every app started doing that thing where they're like they calculate your time and how much time you spent in something.

And they, at the end of the year, tell you, you did this on this day or whatever.

And I remember when Nintendo did it, I was like excited to see it.

Um, and

it pinpointed that the day that

Animal Crossing came out, I played it for 14 hours straight.

My most standout

game of the Switch era, though, the game that stayed with me the most, and also,

as of our last ranking of all of our favorite games of all time, is my number one, was Disco Elysium, which I played.

I know it's available on everything, but being able to play a game that moving and deep, and

I don't know, like

it was such a lush,

righteous experience

of a video game.

And being able to walk around my house and like

change where I was playing it, like,

like the disco Elysium time is like a golden moment in my memory.

Well, I think that that speaks to something that I was going to touch on, and I think this is a good time to get into it.

The Switch, a big part of its success, and maybe partly also because of its success, because of its omnipresence, it became like the ultimate indie gaming console.

And again, you can play these games on anything.

Game Pass has kind of maybe changed that up a little bit.

And also,

still probably Steam is like the default indie gaming platform.

But still, as far as consoles go, a lot of like a huge swath of gamers are having access to games that they wouldn't otherwise play

because there's such a large indie library.

One of my favorite games of all time, I obviously is on everything.

I ended up playing it on

other platforms ultimately, but I first played Hades on Switch and I absolutely loved Hades on Switch.

I think it identifies it to me as a Switch game first.

Another of my favorite games, Celeste, I also like played via

Switch.

Again, you know, there are people who like, it's their one console.

It's the only thing they have that you could play games like this.

Into the breach was another one, another multi-platform indie game that is, you know, a tactical game and was my favorite game the year it came out.

It's like, that was another one I played originally on Switch and was perfect for Switch because of the way the, the, you know, that the four by four tactical grid was set up.

So, so many of our early how did this get played titles were also on Switch because it was a dumping ground for some of the weirdest fucking shit.

There's a lot of weird shit on there.

And also like when we had guests more often, you know, guests were guests would you ask guests what they what platforms they have and they're like i like oh i got a switch and it's like okay we can find something on a switch and you play this like panties game exactly can you play this bicycle through the sky game both games we played with iffy yeah that's what i was gonna say

these are games iffy you want to wait pitch

i want to do panty party yeah wait let me look it up um i no no i'm someone else talk uh what's i'm looking up i no i said four by four grid it's not a four by four grid and into the breach and someone's gonna crack

He's got to fix his own mistake.

We didn't know.

I've not played it.

I know, but someone's going to.

Honestly, it's totally fine.

Yeah.

It's weird that he always knows that people are talking about him online, but doesn't have an online presence.

So he's conjured this group of people that he never reads who are always correcting and chastising him.

Am I wrong?

No, you're 100% correct.

It's an 8x8.

I've never said anything incorrect.

So it's impossible for me to even understand what the feeling is.

Yeah.

But as long as we're talking about what people are talking about online, I've gotten a lot of messages over the last week because Final Fantasy Tactics was announced as a reboot or a remake or whatever, like a highly upgraded video game release.

And I want to clarify for the listener, the game that has ruined my life because I've put so many hours into it and not beaten is not Final Fantasy Tactics, but a very different game, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance for the Game Boy Advance.

It is a much smaller in scope, yet for whatever reason, unfinishable game for me.

Tactics is the one with the great story, the legendary-like writing, the fantastic score.

Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

is a game about

Final Fantasy 12 being a game that exists, and kids get sucked into it.

Is that true?

Yes.

You got to let this go.

go.

By the end of 2020, the Switch is the best-selling Nintendo console in Japan, which is really saying something because, you know,

as far as the Japanese console market goes, that's

pretty big.

2021, OLED Switch comes out, Metroid Dread.

But here's the thing.

By 2021, it kind of is starting to feel like the Switch is even waning a little bit.

Doesn't it?

I mean, obviously, it's going going to, it keeps selling like hotcakes.

I buy an OLED Switch.

There are games that come out in subsequent years that I play and enjoy.

But I felt like I was playing fewer and fewer Switch games.

Maybe this speaks to kind of what you're saying of just like some people are just playing the same games over and over again.

Well, also, but like what after 2021, which is four fucking years ago.

Yes.

What are the major Nintendo releases other than Tears of the Kingdom on the Switch?

Like, what are like your showcase titles that everybody's like, oh, I've got to get my Switch out out and start playing again?

Metroid Prime Remaster.

No, I mean, I basically have the list here: Metroid Dread,

Kirby and the Forgotten Land, which was great, and Xenoblade Chronicles 3, which I have not played, but you know, people who are fans of the

Xenoblade Chronicles.

I love Xenoblade Chronicles.

But isn't that a remake?

Wasn't that a Wii U game?

I don't remember which Xenoblades came out for what.

Yeah, it's kind of tough.

There's so many of them in the itself.

And so many of them were like a re-release.

That's right.

So maybe it was original maybe it was it was not it i i loved it and for whatever reason bounced off it and i can't remember why

switch is also the persona system for me oh yes wow maybe i'll finally finish uh persona 5 on um on the switch 2 oh man it's uh look i have finished persona 5 i played it on uh pc um persona 5 royal i think is worth finishing but i think both i think both those big those big honkin' atlas games in recent years, Metaphor Refantasia and Parashada 4.

Hey, maybe if they really support Metaphor Refantasia, I'll get it for the Switch 2.

It's on Game Pass now.

I just saw.

That's the thing about the Switch library is that there's not every case, but there's some great ports on

the Switch.

And that's always so fun to have a game that you have at home that you can take somewhere else.

It's very nice.

I still haven't fucking played Final Fantasy.

Like this Final Fantasy VII

Rebirth.

I still haven't fucking played Rebirth.

There's too many fucking games.

Well, God, don't play.

I was playing Rebirth, and then I started playing

Obscure Expedition 33, and then I started playing Blatro.

You got to get back to...

I think this is a nice moment.

Because I think the thing about Mario Kart World and I have to get too into Switch 2, that's not going to take too much of your time.

You're going to play a little bit more.

I'm going to dick around with it.

I don't even love the Mario Karts or Kart Racing games all that much to begin with.

I'll have it because that's the version I ordered, but

I'm not going to get too addicted to it.

It's a nice time for you to get back to rebirth, I think.

Wait, you're saying rebirth, not Claire Obscure Expedition 33.

I'd say go back to rebirth.

I think I could do Claire Obscure first because that one I was playing more recently and that's a much more manageable campaign.

I don't know if I could jump right back into the 120-hour game.

Yeah, but then you'll finish it.

I will finish it eventually.

I'm redesigning my office and I think it's going to be a transformative moment for gaming for me.

I love this.

So I think that there's a good chance that

I'm going to have more solo player experiences once my office is.

You know what I'm realizing?

It was also like just a huge chunk of my gaming time in addition to me being out of town, which disrupted things, but it's just like, oh, yeah, we just did an episode of Mother 3.

It's a big honking game.

Yeah, we all finished a

30-plus hour

JRPG, which he could have done in a week if he hadn't been playing balloons.

Let's see.

So, yeah, we had the 2022, also the Switch becomes Switch becomes the third best-selling console of all time.

It sold more than the Game Boy at this point, which is crazy to think about with how ubiquitous the Game Boy was.

That is, because I mean, look,

like the Game Boy before it, it was in the hands of

non-gamers, very casual gamers, got very into it.

My mom is a Switch.

Yeah.

Mary is a Switch.

Yeah.

You tie the Game Boy in the hands of non-gamers.

There's a famous photo of Hillary Clinton playing Tetris on an airplane.

Tetris is a good game.

Whose plane was it?

2023 is when Tears of the Kingdom comes out.

And that's when we start to hear rumors of the Switch 2

in development, which eventually comes about.

When do we actually get the announcement?

Was it 2024?

It must have been.

I feel like the turnaround from the announcement to the release was very, very sad.

Yeah, I was just like, was it actually this year?

Which is why me winning the vet was insane.

Yes.

Because usually there's like a long lead, but it was just like, I think it was January of this year.

I think it was.

And I was like, it's going to come out in the summer.

And that felt

optimistic on my part.

Yeah, no, you were right.

January 16th, 2025 was when it was like, hey, we're actually confirming it.

And then the full specs came out on April 2nd.

Because, yeah, prior to that.

So it was a very, very quick turnaround and things kept

surprisingly under wraps.

Yeah, well, surprisingly under wraps, a lot of it leaked right before.

Like a lot of the details of what it was, the magnetic rails,

the mouse

thing.

None of it was confirmed, of course, but it was like

people had documents for some reason.

And there was a third-party manufacturer that had a mock-up one to showcase like cases and stuff like that.

And that was a whole thing.

Yep.

Do you remember we did a do you remember we did an episode on Ring Fit Adventure?

Yes.

That's right.

Yeah.

Not compatible with the Switch 2.

That's really funny.

Well, that's kind of a bummer.

Yeah, because

you snap a Joy-Con onto it.

You can't do it.

I guess maybe if you pair, I think you compare Joy-Cons, Joy-Con ones to the Switch 2.

So maybe there's like a roundabout way to do it.

But so far, yeah, no.

Oh, man, that made me realize that i'm gonna have to keep a switch because i can't have a dead accessory in my collection i'm having i'm keeping uh keeping my switch i'm trying to convince my wife that she wants to play uh hello kitty island adventure so i could buy it and then when she gets tired of it i could play it

we didn't really dig in too deep on mario odyssey or mario wonder uh both

And I guess also we could shout out Mario 3D World, which had a Switch,

plus Bowser's Fury, which had

a big Switch overhaul and made that game accessible to a lot of people for the first time because people didn't know Wii U.

Odyssey was incredible.

Loved Odyssey.

It's an insanely wonderful game.

Odyssey is so good, and it's just like that core gimmick of throwing the hat on things or throwing Cappy on guys sustains itself and also plays out so magnificently in the end game.

One of my favorite final levels ever.

One of the most satisfying bits of power fantasy you get at the back end game.

Reminds me at the very end of Half-Life 2.

I haven't played odyssey in

like

eight years like uh like since i got it basically and i've been thinking now's a good time to to get back into it i might want to i might replay the entirety of odyssey again just to experience it again odyssey is phenomenal i loved mario wonder you know not as much but it is just like it is such a a triumphant game it's such a um

A refined design.

Heather didn't like it.

I didn't like Wonder.

Oh, I really liked it.

Heather loves Sonic Frontiers, but doesn't like Wonder.

I like the Sonic game that came out the week that Wonder Canada.

Yes, that's right.

Yeah, you did.

Fucking I loved Sonic.

Yeah, what was it called?

Interesting.

I also like Sonic Frontiers.

I also like Sonic Mania, which was a game that I played on Switch.

Sonic Mania is very good.

Sonic Mania is great.

I strongly associate it.

Sonic Generations, Sonic Generations.

Sonic.

What was that one called?

There's no way to know.

There's no way to know.

My phone is charging across the room.

I'll I'll never remember the name of the Sonic game that came out during the week of the game.

It was colors.

It was.

All right, I'll look it up.

Sonic Captain.

Captain Sonic.

Captain Sonic would be pretty cool.

Yeah, pretty good.

Ocean levels.

Yep.

In the end, he flies an airplane.

Yeah, that's a good one.

It's full of actors.

Yeah.

One thing I do, I also want to remember, I want to mention just while we're going down memory lane is.

For me, a thing I really strongly associate with the Switch is the Super Smash Brothers Ultimate announcement.

Oh, yes.

Where

Sakurai revealed

everyone is here, which is one of my favorite announcements in gaming ever.

Yeah,

that really did something to your brain, I think.

Everyone is here.

What a great way to announce that the roster includes every playable character in the franchise's history.

What an awesome way.

Like, first off,

what a crazy design choice.

He's like, hey, you know what?

Every single character we've ever had, we're just going to put them all in this one game.

And it really will be the ultimate experience.

But then they've announced it by saying, everyone is here.

It's that alongside new funky mode or two news.

It's a Nintendo World thing.

They're so, so wonderful.

Because they can't go back from that.

No, they have to now include every single character they've ever had in the games.

Maybe some DLC characters won't get the same treatment.

Like Sora is probably one and done.

Yeah.

Right.

But I really like, I mean, gosh, I wish I liked Smash Brothers more, if I'm being honest.

I like it for like a few minutes, and then I'm like, well,

I'm not as good as my friends are at this game, so I don't like it.

Yeah.

I loved the original Smash Brothers on Nintendo 64.

I loved Melee.

And from that point on, I never really had as much of a connection with the franchise, but I still get every entry

and mess around with them.

But, you know, for me, just like a lot of the

appeal of those games was just couch multiplayer back when I lived in an apartment with a, you know, and had a bunch of like friends my age who would like want to come over and play.

I do have to say, just back to the Mario games for a second.

Yeah.

Odyssey,

um, Wonder, and 3D World plus Bowser's Fury.

Yes.

3D World is maybe my favorite Mario game.

Just full stop.

Okay.

3D World plus Bowser's Fury is my favorite Mario game on the Switch.

I think that package is an absolute home run.

Because

what they did with Bowser's Fury...

Did anybody else play Bowser's Fury?

Yeah.

No.

I want that to be

the direction for the next whatever 3D Mario game is.

Because I loved Odyssey.

I think Bowser's Fury.

is

a step in the right direction.

What made it special?

It felt so big.

It felt like, even though it's not a big game, I think you can finish it in like four, five hours or something.

But like, it just like, it's, it was, it's,

I don't know.

It's, it's, it's,

it's, it's big, it's ambitious.

It feels like it's trying something kind of novel.

And it feels how you like, it's how you like Sonic Frontiers, actually.

Oh, okay.

It's like, it's just all of it's there.

It's all out.

And so you just run to the next area.

Yep.

Oh, it's interesting.

Yeah.

I like it a lot.

Because if I was going to pitch what Mario should do next, it would be Tears of the Kingdom.

It would be like, oh, it's just one big place.

It's kind of like that.

We're like, all the places, all the levels

are just out and about, and you just go to the levels.

Interesting.

It's very cool.

I like it a lot.

Wonder came out the same time as the Sonic game Sonic Superstars.

There it is.

Sonic Superstars.

That's why it can't be remembered because

why would you name it that?

Every other Sonic game has a kind of a nice

catchy name.

I wish there was more representation for some of the other Mario franchises.

Like, there's a couple of great Donkey Kong games on there, of course.

Tropical Freeze,

which has the aforementioned funky mode.

Man, I love Tropical Freeze.

And then the HD remake of the 3DS Donkey Kong Country Returns just came out.

you know, a couple months ago or whatever.

And then Metroid, I mentioned Metroid Prime Remastered, and Metroid Dread, Dread, Metroid Dread, probably one of the better, one of my favorite games on the Switch, actually.

A game that I got all the way to the final boss and did not finish.

And

there's other ones that they like, they just like they haven't made a decent Star Fox in quite a while, but that Kirby game

was great.

Kirby game, very super fun.

Forgotten and then for

mouthful mode.

Oh, man.

Yeah, no shit.

This guy loves it.

All right.

But the great thing about that one is that it's getting a Switch 2 enhancement and additional content, which I'm very, very excited about.

I'll 100% mess around with that.

Yeah.

I have the list of the best-selling Nintendo Switch games worldwide.

What's crazy about it is the top 20.

I mean, I guess this is not that crazy about it.

It's what you'd expect with a Nintendo console.

The entire top 20 is games published by Nintendo and or the Pokemon company.

Yes.

The highest-rated third-party game on the list or highest-ranked third-party game on the list in terms of sales is number 24, Monster Hunter Rise.

so a game i bought and played for an hour so then the switch is just the play you you have to have a switch so you can play those 20 games so you can play nintendo first-party games but the thing is like from again from what i've heard from from indie developers indie publishers like the switch was a boon to uh to the indies because it was such a even if those games weren't showing up uh the only the only indie game i think that's in the top anyway in the top 30 top 50 is stardew valley uh even though those games weren't showing up on these sales charts they were still moving a bunch of units

on Switch just again, because it was everywhere.

Mario Kart has got to be number one.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

Do you want to try to guess?

Wait, that's number one.

That's my guy.

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is number one, yes.

Yeah, that's, I was like,

the reason that Mario Kart World is the launch title has to be that Mario Kart was the best-selling game on the Switch.

Yes, yeah.

No,

by a bit of a margin.

I mean, like, number two is Animal Crossing, New Horizons, and it sold like 15 million more units than it did.

62 million copies of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe worldwide.

Christ, that's a lot of games.

Juggernaut.

62 million?

How many Switches worldwide?

Ah, shit.

I don't have that number in front of me.

Let me know.

I mean, interesting, because it's obviously, it's not one-to-one, but like, it's, it's probably closer than you think.

I bet it's, I bet it's, no, I bet it's 50% of Switch owners have Mario Kart?

Have Mario Kart.

Yeah, because it's like, there's so many of them.

Because isn't the, isn't, wasn't it 150 million consoles was PlayStation 2?

Yeah, that sounds about right.

So if it's 140, it's almost half of Switch owners have Mario Kart.

As of December 2024,

yeah, 150 million units of

the Switch.

This also, this secondary source says that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold 68 million units as of March 31st, 2025.

So maybe that's more cool.

Wow.

That is a lot of games.

But yeah, that's basically, you know, one out of every two switches has a copy of Mario Kart.

Incredible.

Yep.

I didn't get it because I had it for the Wii U.

Oh.

And I was like, well, I've already played this.

So you don't have it on your Switch at all?

I don't have it on my Switch.

Fascinating.

As far as other games that it's kind of like surprised to see so high on here, I guess maybe just because of when it came out.

And I think it was also like not price as a full price game, but New Super Barbara Brothers U Deluxe, number 10 selling game on yeah and and Luigi's Mansion 3 which I memory hold I'd already forgotten about Luigi's Mansion 3 but that's that's in the top 15 a game I didn't finish either

but then I think the Wii U ports must have done well because I mean Wii U sold poorly yeah people didn't have it so they missed it so then they got a second chance to play those games on uh the switch yeah as the as you know, the only person other than Nick who I knew that had a Wii U, I was like, kind of bummed that so many of the titles were things that I'd already played.

Yeah.

So I was like, I don't know.

I kind of

oh, the Links Awakening remake is on here, too, which I, I, I had, had fun with.

I don't know, I didn't really stick with that.

That was my first time playing through Links Awakening, and I really, really enjoyed it.

Yeah, I like that art style.

It's a cute, cute game.

Uh, there was a game that I have to shout out.

Okay.

Because for some reason, it's a Switch exclusive.

Uh, and I just liked these games growing up Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 the Black Order.

Oh sure

just like a team like sort of like action RPG type thing where you can kind of increase the stats of your characters and you can build a roster of the

various Marvel characters.

This is at the height of

you know the MCU so it kind of has there's a lot of characters from those movies that are like in the main part of the story of this game

and I just really, I really enjoyed it.

I got all the DLC for that.

I was very into that game.

Very, very fun.

Any other thoughts on the Nintendo Switch?

May it rest.

You know,

may it rest in peace.

We hardly knew ye, of course.

Gone too soon.

But honestly, not gone.

Like a decade of any console is a...

I mean, it's nine years, but like a nine-year time

leap between generations is a very significant amount of time that it hung on.

Yeah.

Good job, Switch.

And, you know, because of the

hardware refresh of the OLED model,

mine is still in pretty good working condition.

That might be the travel Switch for a while because like the

Switch 2 obviously can travel, but if I'm not trying to take, you know, my brand new thing

out and about take the big boy.

I'll take the big book.

Well, it could be great.

Now I got to get a new big backpack because here's the thing.

I have a bunch of bags that fit the regular Switch, but this fucking honker is massive.

Yes, it is.

Matt just handed it to me in the case, and it's heavy in the case.

It's heavy in the case.

Oh, yeah.

And like, and for anyone, just to give a size reference for people, this is like the size of like a half, like a vertically cut in half Boy's Life magazine.

I didn't think it was that crazy when I said it was the length of a pencil.

Pencil, everybody knows, everybody can visualize a pencil.

Everybody knows what a pencil is.

I wasn't weird at all.

I was being normal, actually.

Everybody got it.

You were weird.

It didn't even occur to me that it was strange until just now, actually.

Anything else?

I mean,

I had a great time with the Nintendo Switch over the years.

I think for me,

three consoles stand out to me as like my favorite consoles.

Oh, wow.

Here we go.

The Game Boy Advance.

Okay.

The PlayStation 2.

Okay.

And the Nintendo Switch.

Wow.

The Nintendo Switch is just an absolute banger.

And for something that seemed like it wouldn't work,

people are on rooftops playing it on a table.

They are at a basketball game playing it while other people are playing basketball.

Didn't seem like that was going to be enough of a gimmick to make it a success, but look at us now yeah which two baby it's and and you know we get things like the steam deck and the rumored sony and and uh microsoft competitors that seem long overdue please sony give us give us a fucking

like

as if you have designed a compact disc player in the year 2025 give us a handheld console that is fragile but well built

that has an unnecessary hinge

that has a light that you're like, this light is weird, but it's, but give it, here's what I want, Sony.

I want a logo that's incomprehensible and a light that pulses that they call the heartbeat.

It should be called the PSP Vita 2.

Yeah.

It reminds me of one of my favorite onion headlines ever.

Sony releases new stupid piece of shit that doesn't fucking work.

Shall we do a segment?

Let's do a segment.

And guys, $15 for you, Heather.

$15 for you, Nick.

Wow.

$15 for you, Ranch.

$15 for myself.

It's time for the bargain bin.

Oh, wow.

I love a bargain bin.

This is the game that Matt invented where

I didn't invent it.

He didn't invent it.

I saw it from a meme.

Seems like fair game.

Everybody can do it.

Anybody can get fair.

Anyone can get it.

He clutched the meme by the throat and dragged it into our show.

We each get a certain amount of money and we get a certain

amount of

a menu of games.

Yeah.

And we have to spend that amount of money on these games.

And the fun twist of this is

it's the top 20

Nintendo Switch games,

the highest selling top.

Oh, wow.

So in terms of sales here.

In terms of sales, yeah.

So I'll just go from five to one in the five dollar tier we have mario kart 8 deluxe animal crossing new horizon super smash brothers ultimate uh and the legend of zelda breath of the wild in the four dollar tier super mario odyssey so this okay i just want to get ahead of this yeah people complain about where the where they are in terms they think that the quality is supposed to be where the dollars are i'm going to say it should be in the five dollar tier yeah i'm going by i'm going by the sales figure game if you wanted it in the five dollar tier you should have bought more copies of it the metacritic at mario odyssey says that it should probably be in the $5 tier.

Tell that to the salesperson.

Where's House of Fate of Morgana?

That's actually one of the highest-rated games on the Switch.

A game that I just have no, I'll never investigate.

Yeah, it probably, I bet if I played it, it would be my favorite game.

Yeah, absolutely.

Universally acclaimed.

I've never even thought about buying it.

It'd be kind of funny to buy it.

It would be.

In the $4 tier, Super Mario Odyssey, Pokemon Scarlet, Violet, Pokemon Sword and Shield, and Legend of Zelda Tears the Kingdom.

In a $3 tier.

Pillow W on the sword.

Is that it?

Sword?

Sword?

Did I say it that way?

Sword.

You know, I have, I just got Invisalign a couple weeks ago, and my mouth has been moving.

Like, it's been working.

So I do feel like I

do feel like as a human being, my mouth moves a little bit differently right now.

Maybe you're over-articulating companies.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't have them in right now.

I know some people do say the W in sword.

Yeah.

I've been drinking a Coke Zero that says partner on it.

Love that.

So I don't have them in currently.

Super Mario Party.

Super Mario Brothers U Deluxe.

Nintendo Switch Sports.

Interesting that it's there.

That's another game I forgot about.

Yeah.

And then Super Mario Brothers Wonder in the $3 tier.

In the $2 tier.

Ring Fit Adventure.

This was hard to get.

We did this episode.

When we did that episode, it was a while after it had been out.

Pokemon, Let's Go, Pikachu and Eevee.

Pokemon,

I think, Shining Pearl and Brilliant Diamond.

insanely titled.

And then Pokemon Legends Arceus.

And then the $1 tier.

Luigi's Mansion 3.

Mario Party Superstars.

Splatoon 2.

And Super Mario 3D World and Bowser's Fury.

Guys, can I say something about the box design that I'm noticing?

This shit's too busy.

There's a lot of stuff in there.

All of these boxes, it got like a hundred people on it, and they're all exploding.

Like every one of them, it's like somebody's like racing or jumping at the camera, throwing some shit, and like, and everything's like, there's like a firework behind you.

Very few of those games, like, look, Mario Party Superstars is the same design as Mario 3D World is the same design as Splatoon 2.

Those are all,

it's all like...

A building has collapsed and these guys are falling towards the earth.

Yeah, they're all so maximalist, so busy with visual information.

It's like,

you know, something, something that's why the Zelda ones seem to pop a little bit more because they're just more of a landscape.

I'm going to say not a take, but maybe a controversial opinion here.

I did not connect with

only

one of these games gave me a truly emotional experience.

And as such,

most of these games are

kind of forgettable to me.

They're dessert to you, kind of.

They're not really the main course.

Yeah.

So if you want, I can go first because I don't have a lot of like, there's not a lot of gravity here for me.

Go for it.

From the $5 tier, I'm going to choose Breath of the Wild.

Wow.

From the $4 tier, I'm going to choose Mario Odyssey.

From the $3 tier,

I'm going to choose a game I haven't ever played, Nintendo Switch Sports.

Wow.

From the $2 tier, I'm going to choose Ring Fit Adventure.

And from the $1 tier, I'm going to choose Mario 3D World.

Matt, as far as allocating our funds here, are we taking one from each tier or can we kind of riff it?

You can riff it if you want.

You don't have to do it one from each tier.

I tend to do that, but if you like to spend your money however you like, yeah,

get three games in that top row and be done with it, boy.

Well, I was thinking about that.

But the thing is, even though I enjoyed my time with Ultimate, it's not something that stuck with me.

I didn't end up playing it.

You know, the Nintendo's online isn't great and their infrastructure.

and uh, I just never really stuck with me.

And I think I'm just kind of over the Smash Brothers series at this point.

Uh, Animal Crossing, I feel like I

have enjoyed my time with, but I don't necessarily need to return to, and I'm just not as much of a Mario Kart guy, so I think of the $5 tier, it's got to be Breath of the Wild.

I mean, that's just like you know, and I think I got to have Mario Odyssey as well, which

is the $9, and those are both two obvious picks, both to launch window games that are still maybe the two best games on the system.

And what do I do with my remaining $6?

I think what I do is I get Tears of the Kingdom, the other Zelda game, really sink my teeth into it, and then I take my remaining $2.

I go down to the $1 tier.

I pick up Luigi Mansion 3 and

Mario 3D World plus Bowser's Fury.

That's pretty good.

It's a pretty good bargain.

That's a pretty good.

That's a good bargain bet.

That's not too bad.

Now, look,

I'm going Animal Crossing.

I think Animal Crossing to me is the game of the Switch.

Wow.

I mean, I won't argue with it.

Yeah.

I think it's just like it's the

game, which is what it is.

Totally fair.

And then, so in the $5 tier, Animal Crossing, New Horizons.

In the $4 tier, this one's tough because it's a choice between two of the great games for this console and then

two sort of mid-Pokemon games.

And I'm going Tears of the Kingdom over Mario Odyssey,

which does hurt.

It hurts.

But

I need that game in there.

In the $3 tier, I'm going with Super Mario Brothers Wonder.

And in the $2 tier, look, I have my pick of Pokemon games to choose from.

Or Ring Fit Adventure.

You know, I'm not picking that.

I know you liked Arceus.

I loved Arceus, so I'm picking Legends Arceus.

And in the $1 tier, my favorite Mario game of all time.

It's in the top maybe five games for me of all time ever.

I love it.

Super Mario 3D World.

We should go back and re-rank all our games again.

We really should.

I'd love to do that.

Matt, this is kind of like just, and this maybe won't mean anything to people who aren't looking at this, but you went right down the far right column.

Those are all your picks.

I guess we'll animal with Animal Crossing.

Animal Crossing's up at the top end of the game.

I'll never fucking mind.

Jesus Christ.

Edit that out.

No, it was very important to point out even if it was true, it would have been very important.

I thought I was looking at it.

I was like, this is amazing.

You went down the one

fucking.

I'm just thinking about Bellatro.

Man.

Ranch, what would you choose?

I would pick Animal Crossing

and then Breath of the Wild.

Nintendo Switch Sports, Luigi's Mansion, and then Mario Party.

Wow.

Wow.

Pretty good.

We all did pretty good here.

I guess so.

Yeah, we sure did.

We're doing great.

I did better with $15 than you could do at Burger King these days, let me tell you.

Save it for the other one.

I don't care about hearing that right now.

Other one?

You know what he meant.

Hey, that's this week's Get Played.

Our producer is Rochelle Shen.

Ranch, yard underscore, underscore, sarge.

Ranch, do you stream anything these days?

I'm playing Silent Hill 2 right now.

Yay!

This is a recent remake.

Yes, the remake.

How's it going for you?

I'm in love with it.

Oh, Oh, I love it.

I love everything about it.

Yeah, I love him too.

He's really, he's an attractive man.

No, well, also, no.

How does it feel?

So you've played Alan Wake 2,

Resident Evil 4,

Resident Evil 7,

Biohazard.

And now this.

So now you're back in the Find My Wife era.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

I missed Finding My Wife.

Shout out your Twitch channel so people will go check it out.

It is also twitch.tv/slash yard underscore underscore sard.

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Matt, what are we watching this week?

We're piercing the heavens, baby.

We're drill, baby, drilling.

We're watching Gur and Lagan.

Nick made this.

What?

Just don't associate

Gur and Lagan.

It's great anime with Sarah Palin's Palin's campaign slogan.

Oh, you know what?

Maybe we should reclaim Drill Baby Drill.

I think it's ours now.

It's for Reyes.

It's for Simone.

I did tell Nick before we started that I bought a drill this week, and he was like, is it because of Gur and Lagan?

And I hadn't thought about it, but it kind of is.

We're watching Gur and Lagan.

That means in five years, Matt will be a god.

Yeah, and I will have like made humanity.

So yeah, check that out over at patreon.com/slash get played.

One of the great shows.

It's a good show.

Oh, it's a banger.

And so is our podcast.

Yeah, the podcast is very good.

A lot of fun.

Hey, I guess the Switch 2 is about to get played, but Switch 1, you got played.

We love you, Switch 1.

Good night, sweet prince.

That was a hitgum podcast.