Kingsglaive: Final Fantasy XV

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Hey, uh, Heather Shell, I don't know if you heard anything from Matt.

I mean, it's like we were supposed to start recording like almost 15 minutes ago.

I just, I don't know where he is.

Yeah, I checked my text.

I haven't seen anything from him.

Maybe it's just traffic.

You know, traffic's been really bad lately.

So could be, right?

He could be looking for parking.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm not in a rush.

I just want to see if anyone heard anything.

Yeah.

Oh, shit.

Oh, my God.

Oh, hey, guys.

Sorry.

Sorry, I'm late.

Fuck.

Someone just threw a knife at me and then Matt appeared.

Oh, sorry.

No, yeah.

Sorry, I'm late.

I've just been really trying to figure out, I got these teleportation knives and I've just been like trying to figure out how they work.

What?

Hold on.

What the fuck?

You got these teleportation knives?

Yeah, I got these knives that when I throw them, I teleport to where the knife goes.

So I like, it took me a while to figure it out, but I finally, it took me, you know.

What, I'm like 15 minutes late.

It took me like 15 minutes to really try to like figure out how to get here.

So I did, it did eventually work, but I can only go to where the knife goes.

Oh, Jesus,

sorry, sorry.

I'm not trying to like get you or anything.

I just like, I just keep throwing the knife.

Wherever you throw the knife, I am watching your corporeal form disappear for a moment and then reappear someplace else.

Look, you don't have to explain it to me.

It's shocking.

I'm doing it.

I know.

It hurts.

It does not feel good at all.

It's like really, really scary.

It's not.

And also, can I say it's not convenient?

It's not a convenient way to travel.

It actually really sucks.

Yeah, but maybe just lay down.

You know, it's an amazing, it could be a cool magic trick, but maybe just set them down for a second.

I'm not going to set him down.

It sucks, but I'm going to use them.

Can you, but hold, do you have to throw it?

Couldn't you just like kick it across the room, like slide it on the floor and then go to the other side?

I forgot.

There's famous kicking knives.

Everyone kicks knives.

It's an easy thing to do.

Just this is a crowded studio.

There's a lot of people who work here.

It's an open office concept.

No, I know.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I don't want to.

I know.

Rochelle is in here.

I don't want to hurt her.

No, I don't want to hurt Rochelle.

I freaked out.

I freaked Marty out earlier.

It was like really, really.

Katie's upset.

You nicked Rochelle.

Rochelle's bleeding.

I nicked Rochelle.

You nicked Rochelle every time you're in the studio.

Don't throw that back at me.

That's cute.

But Dilit, come on.

This is serious.

I don't.

I'm sorry.

I don't like holding the threat of HR over your head, Matt, but I do think that this is an extremely dangerous mode of locomotion.

I don't know that you should be.

And also,

why didn't you throw it near Nick?

It seemed like you threw it it straight at his throat i had

i'm not really in control of like my throwing yet so the knife just kind of goes where it goes look look let's just what does that mean you're not in control of throwing i'm not good at throwing

i'm bad at throwing i i just i think we should get into the record i think we should talk about this after because i think it's gonna be a longer discussion and we only have the studio for so long I do need to get a drink because like I'm just like I'll get it for you buddy no no don't don't go off fucking shit God God.

Sorry.

The can totally like got in the way of the knife and like the can just like there's like soda everywhere.

Matt, I'm begging you.

You are three feet from the couch.

Can you just walk back to the couch?

You don't need to, you don't need to teleport over.

Everybody gets, everyone, everyone else gets to, you know, play with their toys, right?

Everyone gets to get a new car, drive the car.

Everyone gets Apple Watch, counts their steps.

I get some teleportation throwing knives, and I'm not allowed to use that.

I guess, fuck me, right?

That sucks.

I don't know.

That fucking sucks.

Angry about like those things.

Heather has the Apple Vision Pro, wears it all the time, gets to do all computer on her eyeballs and stuff.

I get some knives that I throw.

I'm not allowed.

This sucks.

He is right.

You do have the Apple Vision Pro.

Wait, you guys can tell that I'm wearing it?

Because I thought it looked like my eyes.

No, it's super obvious.

We watched Sean Bean die yet again and generally are are confused as we watch animated feature film prequel Kingsclave, Final Fantasy 15, this week on Get Played.

Welcome to Get Played, your one-stop show for good games, bad games, and every game in between.

It's time to get played.

I'm your host, Heather Ann Campbell, along with my fellow host, Nick Weiger.

That's me, Nick Weiger, and I am here with our third host, Matt Abadaka.

Hello, everyone.

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Premiere Video Game Podcast.

We used to talk about bad games, then we started talking about any games, and now we talk about uh

bad movies,

bad movies.

Now we purposefully single out Matt Opodaka and subject him to something that he made a big deal about having not seen just a few weeks ago.

That's at least what we did this week.

Yes.

It's a Final Fantasy-themed month of sorts.

I mean, not really.

It's light.

Yeah, not intentionally.

Not intentionally.

It's light Final Fantasy theming.

It's not like we're doing like Final February or, you know,

not doing that because it is March.

No,

I was trying to do a play.

I followed it up with a pretty good Vanadiel March is the name of the opening track from Final Fantasy XI, and that was what I followed it up with.

But I need to team it up.

Do you think I knew that, Heather?

Look,

if you keep saying stuff like that, Matt, you will know something.

Oh, God, great.

Next week, I have to talk.

I have to play through the Final Fantasy MMO for PlayStation 2.

Yeah, the defunct thing.

You find a fan server for Final Fantasy XI.

First off,

it's still being serviced and played by Square Enix.

Is that true?

That's wild.

It fucking is.

They still release updates for Final Fantasy XI.

That game is more than 20 years old.

That's fandom.

That's community.

I thought 11 was just, I just assumed and whatever.

I'm not plugged in on these things.

I assumed 11 was just offline and they were all in on 14 now.

Nope.

Play in both.

Play in both.

And I think actually the

there's a thematic raid this month in

Final Fantasy XIV that is Final Fantasy XI themed, which is that's weird.

That's fun.

I mean, this is 20 years ago.

Anyway, we're talking this week about some more Final Fantasy stuff, but let's not get to that yet.

Right, Nick?

That's right.

Let's not get to that.

We don't need to get to Final Fantasy XV Kingsglaive right away.

We'll have plenty of runway to talk about that in a second.

But first, we should talk about video games in general, stuff that we are occupying our time with currently.

It's time for what are you playing?

What are you playing?

Hey, it's me, the Resident Evil Merchant.

I'm here to ask you the question I ask every week.

What are you playing?

Get someplace to be?

Just really just sped through that.

Clock's ticking.

Clock's ticking.

Let's go.

Let's go.

Come on.

I mean, you're paid by the hour, so I would think you would want to drag this out.

But if you want to get out of here quickly,

oh, okay.

Hey, guys.

Yeah, have you been sending in invoices?

Because

I haven't seen an invoice.

No.

Okay.

First off, in order to send an invoice, you need to either have access to email or a printer.

One of the two.

I have neither.

Got it.

The cafe across the street where I usually hang out is

kindly asked me to leave.

Also, that coffee's expensive.

Yeah, you said the cafe where you usually hang out.

My understanding is that you had been illegally squatting there.

Yeah.

Or I think there's a thing called frogging where you like live in the walls.

Oh, interesting.

I wasn't sure if you were full-on frogging.

I thought you were just living in a storage space.

Unless I'm mistaken about the business that was, where that was the little column A, little column B.

So you are living in the walls part-time.

Look, what?

I came to ask a question, and it's what are you playing?

Well, Resident Evil Merchant, thank you for teeing us up.

And

I think that actually, though, you know, you were kind of maybe directing this at me, but I kind of feel like you should start with Matt and Heather because I know they've been playing the game of the moment.

Oh, okay.

Mara, Burako.

Hello, Ancambo.

What are you playing?

Thanks, Resident Evil Merchant.

I'll start this off by

first mentioning that

last week...

I texted you guys that I was doing something really exciting, and it was that I was in a freaking tattoo chair.

That's right.

And I got a freaking tattoo of a Keyblade from Kingdom Hearts 2 specifically.

It's sick as hell.

It's called Two Become One Blade.

You get it for defeating Roxas, who is Sora's other half.

It's his

nobody?

It's his nobody.

Yeah, it's like a...

A boss, it's a boss fight that you can do in, I think, Final, not Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts 2, the Final Cut specifically.

But you didn't go in there with be like, give me a Keyblade.

You had a specific Keyblade in your life.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I sent that in, and the guy got to work and

did some light work.

Very, very good.

I wish I had the name of the shop in front of me.

This guy I met did it.

Why?

Can I ask why that blade over the classic blade?

I thought about getting the classic blade, and it would have been a lot cheaper, probably to do that.

But it was, I I don't know, there's something about like,

I just like the way this one looked.

It looks cool.

And also, the specificity of

like, this is the specific Keyblade I think is like a mark of true fandom.

Yeah.

Look, man, that is awesome.

It's on, it's on your lower leg.

It's on my lower leg.

And it does have like a.

Well, that's where it starts.

It goes all the way to his neck.

Yeah, it's a full-length keyblade.

So it is getting a good chunk of my torso.

But there was also like,

you know, like, do you get like the Oblivion Keyblade, which is also really cool?

I just kind of like the,

I don't know, the look of the two become one.

One, it also has like a sort of like small checkered checkered pattern on it.

And it kind of has like a

sort of like kind of punk rock kind of feel to it.

It's also the most blade-looking of the keyblades.

A lot of them look like...

Keys or like funky weird things.

This one looks like a sword kind of.

That's also kind of why I wanted to get it.

I would say you're decently inked up.

I'm not sure where you would, you would, like what your tattoo count is at or if you want to share that.

You get six currently.

You get six currently.

Like at what point are you like, I'm a tattoo guy or are you already there?

I don't consider myself a tattoo guy.

Got it.

No, I like I'm at a point now where like I wanted to get that for a long time.

I have some other ones that are like like less like.

Like I have this ghost right here that I got doing a podcast with our pal Jacob Waisaki.

Yeah.

And I got that just like for fun.

That goes with a slice of pizza, and it is funny.

But like, I'm at a spot now where like, I could just, I think I could just get one and not really like have like a story or reason

because I already have six.

Right.

If I had like three, I'd probably want them to be a little more like important.

Yeah.

But now that I have like six, I'm just kind of like, I'll just get a bunch.

Like it's like, I'll just have a lot.

I don't know if when I'll get another one, but you always want another one after you get one.

But

all that to say, I did that.

And I've been playing a lot of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.

I

have been playing some Final Fantasy VII Rebirth.

I can't say a lot because I've been working a lot.

No, I've been working too.

It is.

Just in case anybody.

Yeah, we're all working.

We're all working.

I wasn't trying to.

Excuse me, I was working as well.

Look, I'm just,

you know.

As listeners have pointed out, oh, Heather's always busy.

Heather's always busy.

She's always talking about how busy she is well yeah i'm i'm a little busy right now and so i haven't put in as much time or busy little bees why don't you mind your business i like this voice you've established for our fans this is good to have well no our fans

busy

the fans for one are not complaining that heather is busy yeah it's the people that don't like the show that listen to it

I think I said which every podcast needs.

You got to have some people who listen to the show who don't like the show.

That's good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's good for the, um, for the, for the soul.

It's like some of that stuff.

My mental health is certainly improved by this.

That's good.

What chapter are you in?

I'm still in chapter two.

Okay.

I'm in calm

and taking my time

because part of what I like about Final Fantasy games is just existing in them.

So like, I'm like, and I know that a lot of the assets in the game are just like probably random assets, but it's really hard for me not to like look at the paintings on the walls and stuff because I'm like, somebody put this here.

Like, it is, it is such a gorgeous game that it feels like I don't want to run through environments.

Also, it's too funny to run through environments and it kind of ruins my immersion because, like, everything is kind of like loose.

So, if you like run through like a

cafe, you just knock the chairs all over the place.

The physics engine is really funny.

Yeah.

So, uh, but yeah, I've been taking my time playing some queen's blood

uh which i love

such a good

queen's blood i nick

you're gonna once you start playing final fantasy 7 rebirth you're gonna get to the part where queen's blood is unlocked and then knowing you that's all you're going to do yeah yeah it is such a fucking

story is done at that point it is such a good game in this game it is it's awesome it is so much fun i've really i've heard this been talked up it's like the new gwent i gotta try this fucking thing.

Did you, Matt, which chapter are you in?

I'm in chapter four.

Okay.

I'm about 12 hours in.

I spent about 10 hours in chapter two doing every available side thing.

There's these missions that you get with Chadley, the little guy.

I do like Chadley.

Yeah, no,

you're Chadley as hell.

You're Chadley coded for sure.

Think I'm a Chadley?

I think, no, I have it reversed.

Chadley is actually a Nick Weiger.

Chadley is the most Wigg-ass character in any video game ever.

And he's like, hey, could you go walk around and get me some data?

I love data.

And so you go on these like Intel missions for Chadley.

And that's how it's where the open world part of the game comes in, where there's like, there's, it has the same type of like...

thing that all open worlds have where there's like a tower you have to ascend and you know activate the tower, like things like that.

And then there's like other little missions along the way, but there's so many of them that I did, I spent 10 hours doing all of them in chapter two.

Yeah, and then I'm in chapter four, and there's more now.

I don't, I don't know why you would get, I mean, to each their own, but it seems like such a missed opportunity to get a role-playing game that is as

bespoke as Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and not do all of the bullshit.

Like, that's what you're thinking.

I gotta do the the bullshit.

Yeah.

And also, I didn't get to do all the bullshit in

remake because I was speeding, not speeding through it, but I was like trying to get through it so I could get to rebirth.

And

at a certain point in the latter part of remake, I thought some of the,

and I think this is a common complaint, some of the side missions and side quests

were repetitive.

A lot of them were like Transquesty and stuff.

So far, far,

lots of variety.

And like, even if it's like, you know, if they run out and there's similar ones in each section, at least they're varied enough.

And there's a lot of them that you're not feeling like you're doing the same thing,

you know, every other mission.

Whereas like in Remake, it wasn't,

it wasn't paced as well in that way.

But I've been really, really liking the missions in this.

And then obviously the story is

good.

It's like, it's really interesting what they've done so far.

And I'm just happy to see all my guys.

And getting to like fight as what do you call it, as Red 13

is really funny.

Yeah, how do you both like the combat?

Is it kind of more of the same of Final Fantasy VII Remake?

Are there any new mechanics you've noticed?

There are these new

attacks.

They're called like synergy attacks or something.

And that's where you can, if you have if you've used an ability enough times you get these like um other things where uh you can use these attacks with another character so you have to both have them use abilities uh and charge up get get specific charges to then be able to use uh a synergy attack and they're all really cool and interesting looking And there's like new, um, there's new like materia that I really like.

Like there's like a fire and ice materia, not separate ones like they have separate ones still but they have one that's like double

and That you can that equips both magic spells instead of just one which I think is cool

and then you can get like

There's like I think that materia in particular gives cloud some extra abilities that are like like

you get like a fire blade attack or something.

It's really really that stuff's great.

I really love that.

And then there's some other like spoiler things that I won't say, but i i like i'm really liking the gameplay so far wow there's been some online chatter about how for yeah but to answer your first question i like the combat in final fantasy 7 rebirth more than the combat in final fantasy 16.

um so that's been a real pleasure it's got there's a lot you can do and i like it and i also feel like on the uh the highest difficulty level uh there's there's some challenge to it.

It's not impossible, but you know, I've had to Phoenix down somebody already while we'll play in on this, on this,

getting my familiarity with the combat system.

But

I think, so there's been some online chatter about how the game isn't selling like gangbusters.

Like it's not like,

you know, it's selling less copies than Final Fantasy VII Remake did in its first week.

And I think that, you know, if you're making a trilogy of this game, there's going to be fewer people who buy the second one and fewer people that buy the third one, just because, like,

everybody who buys the first one isn't necessarily going to buy the second one, right?

Sure.

And the second one is, you can't just jump into it not knowing anything about Final Fantasy.

You'd be fucking confused as hell.

Like, you would, nothing would make sense.

Like, who are these people?

They're not given proper intros.

Like, it's definitely a sequel.

And it seems like

I know that it would have been financially impossible to do, but it seems like

it would have benefited Square if they could have released all three parts all at once as a single monumental, gigantic game.

And that's, it's too bad that they can't.

Because I don't want them to be punished for their efforts.

That's my feeling.

It's really cool that they were just like, here's just a proper sequel, and the expectation is that you played the first game.

It's not like,

here's a reset, and then you can just sort of, everyone can kind of, you know, you can play Spider-Man 2 without playing Spider-Man 1.

You're fine.

You know, like they weren't, there were, there was nothing like that.

It was just sort of, what the fuck is going on with this guy?

Right?

Why is he jumping around like this?

Was it?

Like, he's like, he could just jump in.

Wish there's New York that I know.

Yeah.

Dune 2 does the same thing.

Dune 2, yeah.

You see Dune 2 without seeing Dune 1, you're going to be completely lost.

Dune 2 is like, I really hope you saw this one.

We're going to give you shitty fucking context.

We're going to start saying, Lisan al-Ghaive, and you better know what the fuck we're talking about.

We're going to throw new shit at you immediately.

And it's more confusing.

I like, I'm in favor of that 100%.

I love it.

Yeah, I think it's really cool.

I don't know.

That's an interesting challenge to figure out how to market this thing.

And

I think obviously a lot of the hype for a remake was probably people who love Final Fantasy VII, maybe played it, maybe even bounced off of it, but were just excited to like, oh my God, I loved that game when I was younger and I'm excited to revisit it.

Or, you know, I want to see what all the hype was about and then find out that it's not for them.

So yeah, if it's limited only to people who made their way through the bulk of or all of Final Fantasy VII remake, that's a pretty limited section of the market.

I know I have a, I mean, they will do this eventually after the third one comes out and sells you know whatever the half-life of sales will be for that game compared to this one they will do a bundle that'll be like Final Fantasy 7 remake

You know complete.

Yeah.

And it'll be all of it in one thing.

Megamix 2.8 or whatever the fuck dumb subtitle they'll give it.

And then you can unlock Sora and Goofy as well.

But they'll do it all as one thing as the first, you know, like as the original was three discs too, right?

But the thing that I'm loving about this part so far, not very far into it, obviously, is that when I was playing Final Fantasy VII just a couple months ago, the original, and I'm doing all the stuff in Midgar, and I kind of thought that this was kind of it.

I thought there wasn't a whole, I didn't know there was an overworld, for example.

I didn't know that the whole game like really widens up.

We're in the part of the game where I was like, oh, wait, there's more?

And I'm just really excited to be in this part because it feels like that.

It feels like now we're playing the game.

Like now the, like, oh, this game started now.

Midgar is way in the, is in the rear view.

That's over.

Now we're in calm.

Now we're in

Juna.

Now we're going to all sorts of other places.

And I'm just excited to be in this part of the game.

It's really exciting stuff.

Wow.

Yeah.

Yep.

And it's gorgeous.

It somehow is nicer.

It's beautiful.

Yeah, it's really.

Sephiroth's hair is beautiful.

I love it.

Yeah.

The synergy attack between Cloud and Sephiroth is like some of the most realistic sex I've ever seen in a game.

Well, I'm glad it's hitting for both of you.

I'm excited to hear about the rest of your playthrough because I think it is going to be some time before I get into it.

Any more thoughts on Final Vanity 7 Rebirth?

None.

I mean, it plays beautifully on the portal.

I don't know if you've done this on the portal yet, Heather, but give it a spin on the portal.

Oh, okay.

I will.

It's wonderful.

I'll talk a little bit about what I'm playing.

And I'm going to make one thing about Baldur's Gate 3, and then I will not talk about it again until I finish this next playthrough.

So I'm just,

I'm just saying, I'm just, I'm just kind of like, I don't want to barrage people with Baldur's Gate 3 each and every week.

We're going to move on from that

for this segment, but I am going to say one thing real quick.

If you don't want to hear this, skip ahead one hour.

I am doing a Baldur's Gate 3 honor mode Dark Urge playthrough.

And I want to talk about one thing, which is the actor who gives the monologue that tells you about what the Dark Urge's backstory is.

His name is Neil Roberts.

There's actually a great polygon piece about him.

And it just sort of talks about his lengthy career, you know, in theater, on stage, in radio, and now in TV and film and video games.

And he also voices, you know, there's all these character voices.

He voices Tav 5, which is one of the, you might have used it for one of your playthroughs.

I mean, it's one of the voices that is just for the player character that you can choose from, one of the six options.

But he also does the voice of the Dark Urge origin character intro.

And can we play this quick rochelle

because if you just want to hear someone just absolutely fucking crush a monologue uh listen to this real quick

my rancid blood whispers to me kill kill and kill again

My ruined body yearns to reap death in this world.

And when this foul urge calls, it possesses my whole being.

Injured beyond repair.

I know nothing besides this.

I must resist the dark urge, lest it consume my mind.

I must discover who I was and what happened to me

before my twitching knife hand writes a tragedy in blood.

Fuck yeah, this rocks.

I'm like watching this like it's real.

Yeah.

Like this is so good.

That poor dragon board.

Yeah, that absolutely fucking rocks.

It's so good.

Why is he gonna fight it?

It sounds like it's okay.

Heather.

Let it happen.

That's a a role-playing option as you're if you're the dark urge so you know i'll talk about it but not today

instead i want to talk about bellatro wow which you were talking earlier about queensblood well this is a full-fledged deck building poker roguelike uh that it was developed by a local thunk who i think is a solo dev though i'm not i'm not certain on that uh it was released on february 20th It is on everything.

It apparently plays awesome on Steam Deck, and I assume it would play well on Switch as well because it's not something that's been particularly technically demanding.

But

this game is so well designed.

It is one of those things where, and I mean this as a compliment, it is so like brilliantly simple

in the sense that there have been a lot of deck building games, there have been a lot of card games that invent their own sets of cards, their own decks, their own rules.

This one uses the established cards of poker and the established poker hands and is able to build a full-fledged roguelike out of that.

So the way it works is,

and you know, a lot of this, this has been kind of burning up the Steam charts and a lot of people are playing this game.

So I assume some of our listeners have spent some time with this and it immediately got its hooks in me.

Basically,

you are playing poker hands

against a series of opponents, although you're not actually competing against their hands.

You're just trying to form a series of hands to accumulate additional points.

And then that gets converted into currency if you're able to survive that round.

So

chips, chips is the currency.

So you will have a

like for instance you will for you will be able to form like three of a kind or you will form a full house or you'll form a straight and you'll get a certain amount of points for it.

However, there are also joker cards that you can acquire which modify how decks work.

So for instance, there's a joker you can get that makes it so that you can form a flush or a straight out of four cards instead of five cards, which just gives you a lot more options in terms of how you're forming hands.

It makes it a lot easier to form a flush or a straight and subsequently collect the points for it.

You'll get ones that maybe like double the value of face cards and

or just make certain hands

pay out a little bit more, add multipliers.

And if you eventually get the right combination of things that add chips to each of your

to each of your payouts, that

multiply those by a certain multiplier you you can eventually just get like all these chips that allow you to advance and complete your runs there are also things like tarot cards that it you know or planet cards or spectral cards that all affect the deck in different ways for instance you know you might get a card that allows you to turn every card in your hand into a seven of diamonds and they just stay the seven of diamonds for a while or another card that makes it so that you can thin out your deck a little bit and you can remove like three cards so all of a sudden you're playing with 49 cards instead of 52 cards and makes it a little bit easier to pull powerful cards or cards that go towards your build in fact the first time i finished a a a run uh it was with a flush build where it was designed towards uh towards getting flushes which i and from what i've read this is like a pretty common way people start to wrap their heads around how the game works and so i just thinned out my deck a bunch by removing like basically all of the spades and most of the clubs so i just had two suits that I was working with and able to, in order to be able to, to form flush hands.

And it also is, all this is matched with a hypnotic audio visual style that I think some people, you know, you might want to try it out first or watch some video of it if you're someone who's prone to motion sickness because it does have like the sort of oscillating background that apparently some people have had bad responses to.

I find it very,

you know, I find it very soothing, but it, but it is, you know,

it could potentially be overstimulating for you.

But it almost feels like it's designed to be played on mute.

There's basically one track that goes throughout.

The sound design is pretty simple, pretty minimal.

I find it charming and pleasing, but it almost feels like it's something that, yeah, yeah, this is, hey, you might be playing it while you're listening to this podcast right now.

So

I really, really enjoyed this game.

I really cannot recommend it enough to someone who's just looking for like a quick

to play game that you could potentially play for a while.

I just think it's an absolute hoot.

I thought

I'd do this real quick, just so we can

talk through

my journey with this game, which happened partly via our text thread.

Friday, 9:25 p.m.

Oh man, this indie card game is Bellatro is incredible.

Matt, you'd love this.

Saturday, 10:10 a.m.

So about 12 hours later, I've played seven hours of Bellatro.

It's rad.

It's exactly for me.

I love it.

I'm going to have to check it out.

I'm looking at it right now on Steam.

It looks awesome.

I think if you know just like the rules of poker, you'll be set.

I would not be intimidated by it.

It's like, well, I don't know how to play Texas Holdum or I don't understand, you know, because it's not really like that.

You're not playing against opponents.

You're not worried about worrying about anteing or the river or

concepts like that.

It's pretty much just like forming a hand out of the cards that are available to you out of a certain pool of cards.

And also you have larger hand sizes than you would in poker.

You're dealing, I think, with eight to 10 cards for exactly what it is.

And you can also get Jokers or tarot cards that expand the number of cards you're going to have in your hand, which is another way to find more

options for winning hands.

It's a very satisfying design, and I'm just really impressed by what they put together.

Awesome game.

And

you're playing it on Steam?

I'm playing it on PC, yeah.

Okay.

But it's on everything.

Yeah.

I sometimes have, I've fantasized about being like a, like a poker guy and like having made some money doing poker.

Right.

And like, that's what, what a life that would be.

Seems like it might be kind of fun.

Yeah, you'd have to be.

There's a dark side, of course.

I think of one of us, even though I'm the most into card games, I think of the one of us who would be, could be a poker pro would be Heather.

Oh, yeah.

Just because I think the mental game of it, you'd be, you'd be extremely good at.

I used to play a lot of neighborhood games of poker

and really enjoyed it.

Like, there was a

solid,

solid few years of my life where I was like super into

money

games of poker.

Um,

and while I was not extraordinary at it, I was also not bad at it.

Like, won a few, lost a few.

It was, it was decent.

Yeah.

It was fun times.

I know some people that have done this that have, like, where I've like wondered, I wonder what they do for work.

And then I found out that they, like, at an earlier point in their life, won a good sum of money playing cards.

And I'm like, oh, that's, that's what it is.

Uh, shall we talk about this movie?

What's Ella?

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Final Fantasy 15 Kingsglaive is the film, or is it Kingsglai Final Fantasy 15?

I forget what order the...

Kingsglaive, Final Fantasy 15.

I'd like to start us off with a review.

Please do.

This is from the New York Times.

And it's a very short review.

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So I'm going to read the entire review.

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Wow

that made me like this movie

Because I'm just like so annoyed by that by that takedown I I think that I think a lot of it just seems to come from not being familiar with this type of

You know, maybe just anime or video games or just Final Fantasies in general in general.

I don't know.

Are there sandworms in this?

I was trying to to think as I heard that.

I was like, is there a sandworm?

I mean, like a big tentacle thing, like a big octopus type thing.

Yeah, I don't know.

Octopus.

Like, that's not a sandworm at all.

And it takes, the fight takes place in the sky.

There's not a lot of sand in the movie, really, if we're thinking about it.

There's like, I mean,

also,

Mike and I have seen Dune 2.

There's a lot of sandworms.

A lot of sand there.

Now, this Anakin Skywalker will like this movie a lot more.

Yeah, almost no silly.

Silly hats.

Is she talking about like...

There are some silly hats.

There was a

pinwheel on it.

There was a dunce cap.

There was like the big Pharrell hat.

Look, I can't track any of these character names, but there's the one nefarious guy who's got kind of a funny hat.

Oh, that like Johnny Depp ass?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, great.

But I don't find, I didn't find, look, I did not like this movie.

I was confused by it.

But I do like the visual invention.

I do like the aesthetic.

I do like the world.

And I didn't think the voice acting was atrocious.

I think maybe some of these actors were like in a booth by themselves, unclear on what they were saying to who,

because it's so dense with kind of with made-up words.

But

I don't know.

That did not strike me watching the English version as like a huge weak spot of the movie.

No, and to this writer's point, you would also do a bad job if you had to say some of the things they had to say.

Some of the dialogue was so bad.

Right.

And like, I hate to

belabor that point of it, but like

I, there was not a second in this movie where I knew what was going on.

I was like very confused by it the whole time.

Almost like it was inscrutable to me.

And I really, really, I did at one point, I will admit this.

At one point, I did fall asleep for 10 minutes and I did not go back because I was like, it's not going to help me.

I watched all of it.

I was locked in.

But I want to take a step back for a second because you and I, as we said, did not play Final Fantasy 15.

Heather, you you did play Final, you are, you love Final Fantasy XV.

I love it, but that's not the, this movie is, pre, is the prequel.

You're supposed to watch this first and then play the game.

So like, there's nothing in this movie that this is the introduction to the world and frankly is

kind of a necessary introduction.

Because the game sort of starts with the post-credit sequence, which was just taken straight from the game.

Like it's literally game graphics.

The post-credit sequence of Kingsglave is the beginning of the game.

So this is the first media you are supposed to consume when starting on your Final Fantasy XV journey.

And I like this movie better than Advent Children.

That's interesting.

I disagree, but I think if I was more familiar with the world,

I might have a similar feeling.

And I don't want to, I don't think that this is necessarily a great metric for

whether or not something is a good movie, right?

I do just want to point out that Final Fantasy VII Advent Children has a rotten tomato score of 50%.

And Kingsglaive, Final Fantasy 15, has a rotten tomato score of 12%.

What's the fan reaction there?

Because I think that was probably skewed by critics who are stodgy critics who are maybe a little bit baffled by what they're looking at.

Yeah, like the New York Times guy who's got an or woman who has to review.

The failing New York Times doesn't know what to do with Kingsglaive.

Let's see.

Kingsglave, Final Fantasy.

Kingsglave is 69% audience score.

Yeah, so fans are probably

overrating it.

I think as a film, it probably is somewhere.

kind of in the middle.

Yeah.

Not to sound too third way here.

You know, this is the thing.

It's

if this is intended as a

like, hey, let's have you take some steps down into the shallow end of the pool and get acclimated to the water before we plunge you into the deep end of the gameplay of Final Fantasy XV.

I don't think it succeeds at that because I think I watched this movie and felt like I knew next to nothing about what this world was and what the rules were and who the characters were and what I should even be paying attention to.

Yeah, there was like a couple things where I was just like, okay, so wait, they dress and talk like this, like sort of like old like Game of Thrones style, like

clothes and talking, but then they went outside and there's like normal cars.

That I love.

I'll just say this.

I love that.

That is my favorite thing about this is that how everything is so anachronistic.

It's like we got a knight

in shining armor, and then we've got a guy driving like a Chevy Tahoe, and then we've got a fucking laser gun.

Like all these things are coexisting.

I think that is awesome.

I love that.

That just nonsense.

It's an interesting stylistic choice, but it added to my sort of

where am I?

Like, what am I watching right here?

But it is, it, it looks, the thing about the movie, too, is that it look, it does look good.

It looks awesome.

I wish more movies looked like that.

It's incredible.

Yeah.

Here's, here's, okay, look, guys, I know that I'm coming from the Final Fantasy 15 house here.

But my question is, what is confusing about it?

It's a really simple story.

There's a city with a king and the king, the

king being alive is what makes magic possible in the city.

There's an empire

on the outside of this city and the empire has taken over almost everywhere.

And the empire wants that power.

So they set up a sort of

a clandestine mission to infiltrate the city under the guise of peace and then kill the king.

Like that's

really

simple.

You get that in broad strokes, but I think a big part of it is like it's unclear what the stakes are.

It's unclear, you know, who is who exactly.

For a long, a large part of it, I think it's even unclear who the lead is.

Like, I think some of it is just like, yeah, I overall got the broader narrative, but I think just the way the story is constructed, the information is doled out a little bit incongruently, and so it becomes a little bit hard to follow.

I think also just because there is so much dizzying action, it starts to feel like a style over substance sort of thing of like, you know, let's let's take a moment to breathe here and just sort of like really start to grasp what's going on.

But, you know,

it's not indecipherable.

It's just like,

I think another part of it is that because there's so much vocabulary being thrown at you, you're trying to track all of that.

And for instance, to use Dune Part 2 as a counterpoint, they, I think, did a good job of paring down the nonsense to the essentials.

I'm saying nonsense affectionately, paring down the invented words and the lore to the essentials

so that you kind of under, you could, you could comprehend it a little bit more.

But I don't know, that's the challenge of making something like this.

And that's also the challenge of making something like this and then localizing it.

You know, it's just, it's, it's, it's tough.

I do give them credit for just like making something that's so visually arresting.

I'm, I'm floored, guys.

I thought you guys were gonna like this.

I thought you were like, there's no way you thought we were going to like this.

That is a premise I absolutely reject.

That is impossible.

I thought there was not a, there was a serious non-zero chance that after this, Abodaka, especially since this is Tattoo Nomura, Kingdom Hearts, like this is like his, it was at one point his baby.

And this idea that you would mash up, you know, a modern setting with like fantasy elements is so much this dude's jam.

I thought there was, and you've got the tattoo.

I was, I was like, Abadaka's going to come in and he's going to be like, Guys, I loved Kingsglaive, and I want to play Final Fantasy 15.

Yeah,

how do you think I feel here sitting here questioning my god?

Like, it feels bad.

Also, the trailer for Kingdom Hearts 4 is clearly Tetsu Nomura being like, They took Final Fantasy 15 away from me, I'm gonna try again because it's Sora running down like the same streets.

Look,

it's

they have a car in this that they made.

I love the car.

The car, I think it's a beautiful car.

The car is good.

It's an Audi, right?

Yeah, it's an Audi, and they made one in the real world here for us.

They made the car.

I, I, here's the things I love, and I don't, I feel nuts now because I was like, I was sure that we were going to have this kind of like, oh, and when he does this, that's kind of cool.

Oh, and when that happens, that's cool.

And now I'm like,

guys, you didn't like like my favorite part was when

the

when luna freya the oracle

basically jumps out of the flying car

like to kill herself and aaron paul as uh nicks goes oh come on

yeah there's

There's a lot of like well that happened tier quiffs like there's a lot of the the stuff is

I think that stuff

if I had to timestamp it, is from this time, right?

Sure, yeah.

Like, this is like the, these are like the first instances of that.

But yeah, I liked when the oracle almost killed herself, and then he was annoyed that she was trying to do that.

But I also like the

teleportation knife.

Yeah, those were cool.

That's cool.

And when the big guys at the end, they're also throwing their weapons and in order to teleport.

Like, I like that, okay?

Let's let's inter audience.

If you

are unfamiliar with Kingsglave, let me do my best attempt to summarize.

Um, we start 10 years before the events of the movie, uh, when Nifelheim, the terrible empire, attacks the kingdom of Tenebrae or Tenebra.

Um,

and uh, the king and his family and the queen of Tenebra are all gathered for like a hangout.

And

the queen of Tenebra is killed.

And the king of Lucius, which is our city,

Lucius has to leave.

And they abandon this young princess.

And who knows if she's safe?

But then 10 years later,

Nifelheim.

is engaged in a near constant war with Lucius and there is a group of knights called the King's Glaive who are out on the battlefield trying to fight all of the things that the evil empire can throw at the kingdom of Lucius.

And

they throw behemoths, they throw demons, they throw monsters, and the king's glaive use magic and weaponry to fight them off.

Suddenly,

The Empire wants a peace treaty.

They're like, this is ridiculous.

Certainly, the kingdom of Lucius would like a peace with our fair Nifelheim.

There's like a cartoonishly bad guy who comes in and you're like, oh, don't trust this dude, this Johnny Depp-looking guy.

Yeah, this like fancy lad bad guy.

And the king is like, okay, I'll agree to meet.

And the emperor is going to meet the king and they're going to sign a peace treaty.

But the empire has one caveat, which is that the prince of Lucius must marry the princess of Tenebra to

create this,

I don't know, treaties.

You know, like when all that kingdom stuff happens in like old times.

Like, oh,

we're gonna solidify this in blood.

So the Kingsglaive

is prepping for this peace treaty when they find out that the princess has been kidnapped.

by elements of the empire and they're like oh no we gotta go we gotta go save the princess because the empire is fucking with us.

They're not actually here to create a peace.

But that

action of

kidnapping the princess is a ruse to get all of the knights out of the city so that the king is exposed when it is time to invade.

So the knights are on the outside saving the princess and the king is attacked by Niflheim and he gets killed.

And he has one special ring that gives him all his power.

And the princess takes that ring and she's like, nobody can use the ring except the king.

And our main dude from the kingsglave is like, let me try using it once.

And he puts it on and he speaks to the kings of old.

And the kings of old are like, Nyx, because that's his name.

If you use this power, you'll have to forfeit your life.

And Nick is like, okay, I'll do it.

And he fights Niffelheim on his own.

Manages to let the princess escape to safety.

And then he dies.

And that's this, that's the whole movie.

Now I get it.

Fuck, god damn it.

No, it's here's the thing.

You did a great job of explaining it.

I don't think the movie does a good job of explaining itself.

And I think that it looks amazing, as we've said a few times, and it has some really awesome sequences, a lot of cool visual ideas and conceptual ideas.

But you know what it kind of feels like?

It's like if you're watching the Matrix, but they cut out the scene where Morpheus takes Neo into the field of white and explains what the Matrix is and how it works and teaches him kung fu and everything and he's just like you kind of have like this this a 10 minute uh you know decompression period where you're just being explained how everything works and I never really understood even the status of these various characters what the king's glaive was in particular and i understand that a lot of this stuff is like lore that you you can decipher or that you can find from other sources.

And a lot of times there's an expectation, especially with video game stuff, that you will look at, you know, other, you won't just look at this one text, but you'll look at a bunch of different things and piece these things together on your own.

But

I just was generally lost with a lot of it, despite liking how it looks.

And, you know, another example is the

Mission Impossible movie without

the slideshow or PowerPoint presentation where they explain what the mission is, who the bad guy is, and what you need to do to eliminate them.

Just give me some context for what everything is.

I do want to shout out

a couple of actors.

First off, we should shout out past guest, our buddy Ray Chase, who does appear in that post-credit sequence as Noctis.

That's right.

So it's good to see and hear Ray in there.

But also, I want to shout out Neil Newbon,

who is

the voice of

NYX is Aaron Paul?

Neil Newbin plays Petra Fortis, who's another character

who I can't picture right now, but I'm sure if I saw, I'd know who that was.

But he is also the body of Aaron Paul's character.

So he did the motion capture.

And Neil Newbin is, of course, the performer who gave us Astarion in Baldur's Gate 3.

Oh,

okay.

Yeah, yeah.

Adding a lot of juice to this.

A lot of juice.

Yeah.

And it needed the.

I don't feel.

It was fucking

I feel like because you're you're on your you got your laptop home, but I feel like you're you're you're drafting an email where you're firing me.

That's what it feels like.

No, it's actually my resignation.

No, I look, I watched this.

I didn't think, I maybe didn't think I was going to like it because it didn't seem good.

And I was really, really trying, even though, like I did say, I did fall asleep for 10 minutes.

I don't think I missed anything in the the 10 minutes that would have helped me

lock in with this thing.

But it's not, look, I'm going to tell you right now, Heather, this isn't going to stop me from eventually playing Final Fantasy 15.

I am going to do it still.

No, it didn't.

I think of it as if this exists partly as marketing material for Final Fantasy 15, the game.

It succeeded for me on that level because I was like, it would be awesome to play this.

Yes.

And like you were saying.

The aesthetic is really cool and just the world that they've built is really cool and feels like a fun thing to live in and then the the obviously the thing is just the the the post-credit scene is just pulled directly from the game and that's to me it's like oh yeah i want to be on a road trip with my bros this does also sort of like bring the thing like i think it i don't have i heard this complaint before that like the or maybe this is you know what this was my complaint about the um spirits within that magic didn't seem like it was part of it at all and like that is like such a big part of final fantasy like in general, just like magic and like weird kind of stuff.

This at least has that.

So, like, a lot of magic, no shortage of magic.

If I had to rank the Final Fantasy movies I've seen, it's Advent Children

way at the top now.

And that sounds crazy considering the conversation we had about it a few weeks ago.

That is number one with the bullet, right?

That is basically best picture.

Then go all the way down to Kingsglave.

Kingsglave is there.

And then further still

is the Spirits Within.

Interesting.

I feel like I like Spirits Within more than this movie.

Wow.

But I'm not sure.

But I'm not sure.

I think

Spirits Within is pretty rough.

And this does look a lot better.

I think the way Spirits Within is more of a, it's more, it's a better constructed movie, I feel.

It's a better constructed movie, but it's less Final Fantasy to me.

And that's why I'm rating it so as a Final Fantasy movie.

It absolutely fails.

That's a great point.

Yeah.

But because at least this has like

magic and like

old guys doing like weird magic stuff in it.

And like, I like the way the magic looks.

It looks

like it looks fucking awesome.

Yeah.

It looks computerized.

Like it looks, I don't know.

It looks like technology, but also magic somehow.

And I don't know.

That's not a good way to explain what I mean.

But if you've seen it and you know what I'm talking about, maybe you agree.

I think that this is a,

this I, I think I maybe just figured it out for me at least.

Like, cause I, I have a, I have a minimal understanding of Japanese.

Uh, and so if I put this movie on in Japanese without English subtitles, I think I would like it more because I would be like, you know what, I can't follow that thing, but this thing at all, but that's okay.

I just like, I, I can, uh, whatever, I can pick up every 30th word.

Uh, and then beyond that, I'm just just baking in the visuals.

But you know what?

This looks so cool that I think I like it.

And then,

but actually trying to follow it in English, I'm just like, man, I'm lost here.

Yeah.

And this is also like, this is a zone.

This is a zone for me that I don't love in general because, look, I don't like to be a hater.

No, I don't like to be a hater.

I don't like to be a hater.

I like my letterbox.

No, what are you guys trying to be a hater?

My letterbox.

Yeah, I'm not trying.

It's happening.

I'm not trying to do it.

My letterbox is so annoying to most people because I give a lot of movies five stars because I just like going.

I just like having a blast watching the movie.

And so if I liked it at all, I'm like, well, that was an easy five stars for me.

I had a blast.

This, I gave one and a half stars on Letterbox.

Wow.

That's a damning review.

Also, I have to point out one of my favorite things that was making me laugh when I was watching the movie.

is that one of the characters is named Regis.

And I just kept thinking it would be so funny if it was Regis Philbin.

It's really fun.

That's that's like the king.

That's Sean Bean's characters named Regis.

Nobody else is named Regis.

I just say Regis so many times in the movie.

It's the kind of thing, maybe in the localization, make him like Rebus or something.

That's like more kingly, too.

Like Regis, I'm just thinking he's like, he's going to say this Final Fantasy is out of control.

But

Regis made me.

Is that your Final Fantasy?

Wait, who knew that Weiger had a Regis on lock?

That was great.

That was so good.

Wow.

The movie just got an extra star.

Regis is a, is, I think it's a Latin name that means king.

So it's like, it's.

That would make sense, Regal.

Yeah, I think, I think it's.

King, King Lucius.

Fucking sucks.

It's just such a funny, I don't know.

Like he's, there's only one famous guy named Regis.

Yeah.

So it just occupied my mind the entire,

and this is something that I think is worth mentioning:

hour and 55 minutes.

Somehow, the longest movie I've ever seen in my life.

This movie was

so long to watch.

It felt like I was watching it for my entire life.

Yeah.

No, it feels as long as Dune Part 2, and it's one hour shorter.

Yeah.

And Dune 2 doesn't feel long at all.

It just absolutely does not.

I could have sat there for another hour.

But that's just a whole thing of just like pacing and, you know,

that makes something feel like it's the duration that it is or not.

It isn't.

But another positive I'll say is that one of the things I love about Final Fantasy, and particularly in

Final Fantasy VII, Rebirth right now, is that there is sort of like modern stuff in it, but then you see like creatures that don't belong there.

And I like that.

I love that.

That's always good.

That's an A-plus to me.

That's what this has a lot of.

And I think a car and a creature?

I think that's great.

Love that.

Stuff that doesn't go together, but then here it is side by side.

Because in the creatures, like that big octopus thing that we were talking about earlier, I was like, I wish this came a little sooner because this is cool.

This, this is great.

I love this.

I love how that looks.

Yeah.

I don't like what anyone's saying when it's happening.

Everything that everybody was saying was crazy, but I liked how it looked.

The tentacles looked all wet and gross.

Yeah.

Yuck.

The movie was written by

Kazushige Nojima, which he wrote Final Fantasy VII, Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts.

He also wrote Final Fantasy X or 10.

Like, he is like their main writer who wrote this.

So I'm wondering if the localization actually

is kind of accurate.

Like that it is sort of tropey and sort of like

a collage.

But

yeah,

a draft is written by him.

And then they brought in a professional

screenwriter

who created the full-length cinematic script.

And then

a Los Angeles-based company, Hydra Entertainment, assisted with the script in addition to writing assistance from other Hollywood writers.

So

that probably messed it up, honestly.

Yeah.

To be completely honest, it's like, it's like, because there's a bunch of people who's like, oh, well, we got to, we got to figure out this, like, like, probably tried to Hollywood it too much, but it ended up being this kind of soupy mess of like, it's not,

it's not as anime or as video gamey as it should be.

Yeah.

And it, and, but it's also not traditional Hollywood storytelling.

It's this weird sort of murky midpoint that doesn't really satisfy anyone.

And on the casting point, too, like, I...

I like all these actors.

I think they're like great actors.

I just am too aware of what Aaron Paul looks like.

So to hear his voice coming out of this guy's face who is a different actor is like weird, is kind of weird.

Well,

it's one of those things with because the animation pipeline is so labor intensive and takes so long that you can imagine that this whole thing was packaged when, you know.

Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad were at the apex of their relevance.

Yes.

And then, and I don't know what year that would have been, but ultimately comes out in 2016, which certainly feels later than, I mean, I feel like both those shows were off the air by that point, right?

Yeah, so

yeah.

Is Game of Thrones just wrapping up?

I could be wrong.

No, no, no.

2016?

No, Game of Thrones went until 2020.

2019.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

So that went a while.

Okay.

Breaking Bad ended in 2013.

But you can see how this was probably put together off of like these names of these big prestige TV shows and then they're in there.

But yes, they are so identifiable with those roles.

That is, that is a little bit of a thing.

And so you're hearing two Game of Thrones characters talk

about each other and to each other.

And it just does throw you off a little bit.

I'm with you there.

Because, like,

it's that one thing, too, where, like, I mean, not that they had to.

If they're going to make the people look like people this much, they should just look like the people that are the voices.

At least, but like, that is the thing.

Because not, it's, we watched a dub, probably, right?

Like, we watched, it probably was

intended for the Japanese audience first.

Who could say so?

I assume so.

Yeah.

I honestly don't know if this was, because the lip sync

was

English.

English.

Yeah.

Like, it was not a dubbed lip sync.

Yeah.

And I feel like Aaron Paul,

like, I feel like the, maybe I'm, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like it's...

Aaron Paul is like the primary actor of NYX.

So if you watch the Japanese version, that's technically the dub.

Interesting.

I see.

Oh, no, maybe not.

Maybe not.

I don't know.

I can't tell.

I can't tell from the limited research I'm able to do while talking to you on this podcast.

Yeah.

Well, like, it says that his, his, the likeness is based off of a French model.

And then Neil Newbon does the

motion capture.

And then Aaron Paul does the voice.

So maybe it's just like this like Frankenstein process that is just like, what is like going on here, actually?

Is there any way to watch this in subtitled, a subtitled version in the US?

Because I could only find it dubbed.

Yeah, I only saw the dub.

I'm sure you could find the Japanese version, but I don't know if it's on any of the existing streaming platforms.

So, which is, I guess, the answer to your question might just be no that.

Yeah, and I'll tell you what.

Maybe on the blue area.

If you can, I'm not doing it.

I watched it the one time.

I'm not watching this again.

Wow.

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You know, to each their own.

We're all doing our best.

I don't think I did not detest this movie as much as Matt did.

I just I just was like pretty lost, but I did like the I did like a lot of the mechanical design, I did like a lot of the character design, and I like the world building, like I said.

Yeah,

uh, it does not look like you can buy this film on Blu-ray.

Ah, dang!

Oh, wait, no,

hold on, hold on, I'm wrong.

4K Ultra HD Kingsglaive

is available on Blu-ray, 4,703 reviews, 4.5 stars.

So people on Amazon love it.

Good disc.

It's in 4K.

It is only in English.

A little bit of a bummer.

I'm shocked.

Oh, well.

Well, there was something else they did that for, where they were just like, you know what,

this is a thing that we're intending for English-speaking audiences because that's the biggest audience.

I can't remember what the hell that was.

Wasn't it Final Fantasy 16?

Might have been.

Might be what I'm thinking of.

Yes.

Yeah.

I think that is what I, I honestly, I think that is exactly what I'm thinking of.

Actually,

no, you can watch it in Japanese with English subtitles on the Blu-ray, but it is considered a dub.

It is not.

So this was...

This is an English format film, and the Japanese language track is a dub.

Huh.

Asked and answered.

King Regis' son is Noctis.

Yes.

Am I supposed to piece that together for the movie?

Well, because did you not?

Okay, hold on.

Because you're like.

You're like, you're like, I wish there had been like an introduction that told me all the stuff.

That's literally what happens.

There's like a voiceover at the beginning.

And it's like, the kingdom of Lucius, the kingdom of Nifelheim.

These two countries are at war.

And it's like voiced by the princess.

And it's like,

the young Prince Noctis, son of King Regis, was in Tenebrae to do some kind of, like he'd just been injured.

And you see Noctis in a wheelchair.

Like that whole, it's just a crossover.

Yeah, I think I just, I think I just tuned out at Nippleheim.

I was like,

all right.

I know.

I was like, did they say Nippleheim?

Oh, my God.

My favorite part was when King Regis, yelled off camera to Gelman.

And he was like, Gelman, should we go to break?

Gelman, I'm worried.

There's a coup going on.

Take my ring of power.

Do you think this is the most Regis has been talked about on a podcast in the last like five years, probably?

I can say with certainty, no, because I listen to other podcasts talking about Regis.

God bless him.

A broadcasting.

A great entertainer.

Yeah.

Broadcasting legend.

Yeah.

R.I.P.

I guess the most shocking thing about this feeling I'm having right now is that I am enthusiastically happy about the movie, but still somehow on the opposite side of a take from you guys.

Like,

like, I'm not like, I'm not, I'm not grumpy and I'm not frowning and I'm not like, this fucking podcast is going to fucking kill me.

Like, like, I'm like,

but, but didn't you like the cars and the shoes and the hairstyles?

I did like that.

I know, I did.

I know, I know.

But, but like, I'm like, oh, dah.

And, and you guys are like, this, this sucks.

So you're feeling this way, and this is the first time I felt like you.

We freaky Friday.

Yeah, we did, especially since it's a Tetsu Nomura thing.

Because you normally are the guy who's like, man, I don't know what the deal is with those guys in the hoods, those cloaked guys.

But I, you know, I like them.

And

I want them to get hurt by my, my boy Sora.

Maybe that's organization 13 you're speaking of.

Yeah.

See?

Regis be Regis' first television exposure was as Joey Bishop's sidekick.

Joey Bishop of the Rat Pack had a TV show

and Regis was his sidekick.

Isn't that crazy to think about?

That life is that long?

The TV who

wants to be a millionaire was one one of the rat packs

buddies.

Such a great host for that show.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

I'll say this.

I'll reiterate that this did make me want to play Final Fantasy XV.

I do plan to do that at some point.

I also will say I meant to meant to do it in the past.

I just never got around to it.

I also feel like...

Although this is intended as a prequel for Final Fantasy XV, the game, I feel like if I played that game and then watched this movie, I would have more appreciation for it because I'd just have a little bit more context for everything instead of just this barrage of new ideas and new vocabulary.

Are the teleportation knives in the game?

Yes.

Good question.

The way Prince of Persia.

Yeah.

So the teleportation knives are

a sort of weakened version of Noctis' main power, which is that he

so all of the blades of the kings are like a power that he inherits.

And I believe that he inherits that power by being

like as soon as the king is dead, he inherits the power, like,

you know, sort of as royalty.

And the way you fight as Noctis is you throw those fucking swords at monsters and teleport to them.

So the combat is also like throwing a sword up in the air and then throwing the sword back down at a monster's head from up in the sky.

Like it's really uh kinetic uh combat.

Um, and I think

some of the action in both uh Final Fantasy VII Remake and in Final Fantasy 16 owe uh to that single concept of throwing the blade and then teleporting to it.

Because, uh, what's the dude's name in 16?

Uh,

Metcha now, Clive, Clive, There it is.

Clive does that move.

Like, he can teleport to

different parts of combat,

which is a noctis move.

I don't know.

Clive Rossfeld.

Clive Rossfeld.

Good name.

You're fine with it

if the old time stuff doesn't mix with the new time stuff.

I'm learning stuff about you.

Apodaka, I'm learning.

I mean, I didn't dislike that.

I was just like, it was just confusing to me because I just wasn't sure.

Because it's, it's, for the first like 10 minutes, you don't see any of the new stuff.

And then they go outside and all the stuff's new.

And I was like, what the fuck is this?

This is crazy.

But, but it's like, that's an element I can just take at face value and not have explained to me, not have justified.

Like, there was a great war.

And so some technology was lost, but other remains.

Like, I don't need that.

Like, that can just be baked into the world.

I more just mean, like,

you know, what's going on between these characters and just defining things a little bit better.

But also, it's possible I'm just dumb.

And I didn't get this because I'm a dumb guy.

No, it was like that stuff was like the end of the village to me, but like the first 10 minutes of this movie.

Wait, what the fuck?

I mean, I wish I liked it,

but maybe it wouldn't be as fun.

to talk about, right?

But I, yeah,

this didn't do it for me.

But I do think that after I finish Rebirth, I probably will start Final Fantasy XV.

So I want to see what those guys in the car are up to.

That was really, that is a great tag.

Yeah, it does make you just want to be in that car.

You get all the, you get their vibe.

Yeah.

The crew's vibe immediately, and you're like, I kind of want to hang out with these guys.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Gelman, the main guy in the car, that's my son.

And that's my final answer.

Okay.

Okay, any other thoughts on King's Live?

This is the best movie I've ever seen.

Rochelle, you didn't watch this, did you?

No, I watched a trailer and I was like, I'm not going to understand this at all.

I wish I had done that.

That probably would have helped me out a little bit.

Hey, it's time for the question block.

All righty, these are all from our Discord.

Discord.gg slash get played.

Here we go.

This first one from Unagiroll writes, if any restaurant in a video game were real, which one do you think would be your favorite?

Persona 5 Coffee Shop.

100%.

With a bullet.

Yeah.

I mean, that's an easy one for me.

I'll try to think of a less obvious answer, but just that is so cozy.

And we all talked it.

We were texting about this back and forth.

I'm sure we talked about it on our Persona 5 episode.

And, you know, I was continuing to do as I played through all the Persona 5 Royal.

It introduced me to having curry and coffee together.

That's right.

And that's such a great combo, and they offer it there.

And it's just like, oh man, that just makes me want to hang out there in the rain with some acid jazz playing.

That was like a really fun time because I remember there was Cafe LeBlanc.

That's what it's called.

Cafe LeBlanc.

There was a time during that where you just sent us a photo of you at a like a curry place.

and you were just like, I'm eating curry.

It's rocks.

You saw it in the game, and then you went and got it.

This rules.

Yeah, that's a really good answer.

I would like to eat at the restaurant, the bar from David the Diver.

Get some,

get a beer and some sushi.

Yeah, some like fresh caught sushi.

Yeah, that'd be great.

That is actually awesome.

That is great.

And that would also be a great environment because you're right by the ocean.

Yeah.

What was the,

can I hear the wording of the question so I don't like damn myself to hell?

It's if you can eat in any restaurant from a video game, where would it be?

Which would be your favorite.

I'm going to go with Whirling in Rags.

Oh, what's the great answer?

A lot of drama there, though.

Yeah, a lot of drama.

But like to be able to sit at the bar and like have a little bar food and like listen to these guys all talk to each other and see karaoke night.

It could be a good restaurant to hang out at.

I don't remember the name of the restaurant from Final Fantasy VII

in the

with the walled city.

Right.

All I know is just when he's talking about the

Midgar, like the plates that cover the city and calls them that big pizza up there, like the Barrett line or whatever it is.

Okay, so I looked it up.

The restaurant is called Restaurant.

I like that one.

I would like to try the restaurant.

restaurant from Final Fantasy VII.

I also like that.

Just talk to that guy.

I also really like the Gelden Kway restaurant from Final Fantasy XV, which is a very French Polynesia-inspired island restaurant.

And it's got, because of the mismanagement of assets in Final Fantasy XV, the food in Final Fantasy XV is still the best-looking food in any video game ever made.

So you'd be like, hmm, that food looks pretty great.

I tell you what, I always love a bar or restaurant you can hang out at in a game.

It's a a fun thing.

I mean, that's a big thing.

What I liked about the Yakuza or the like a Dragon series now is just like, and I can't, I can't think of a specific restaurant from there, but just that you could go and like,

whatever, I'm just going to go have some tepanyaki or something.

I'm just going to hang out for a bit.

I'm just going to go get a fast food burger.

I'm just going to sit in here.

It's great.

I would also like to have coffee at Brewster's Cafe from Animal Crossing.

That's fun.

Thanks for the question, Nagiroll.

Great question.

This next one is from Not Rock.

If you were a pro wrestler, what game tune would you use for your entrance music?

Wow.

This is really interesting.

I mean, Kenny Omega already has used one-winged angel,

and that's his finisher.

So that kind of takes that off the table.

I feel like he kind of owns that.

Yeah, yeah.

You'd want something big and bombastic, right?

Like you'd want something that sort of like declare, like, is shorthand for your character, but also tells you you're here to

do business and gets the crowd all amped up.

Right.

I think mine would be

mine would be Ryu's theme from Street Fighter 2,

just like a classic

game theme.

But my first answer was the character select screen from Marvel versus Capcom 2, which is just going to take you for a ride.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

That's right.

again.

That's really, really good.

The first thing I thought of was Superman by Goldfinger from Tony Hawksbro Skater 1.

It's kind of a cheat because it's just like a regular song.

But that was the first thing that came to mind.

I think I would probably take one of the

versions right now, just because it's what's in my head and it's what I've been playing and it's from my favorite game.

I think I'd just take Down by the River from Baldur's Gate 3.

Oh, wow.

And one of the most like, you know, maybe not the character selection version, but there's so many different orchestrations of that, some instrumental, some with vocal throughout the game.

So just like whatever the biggest, boldest, like fucking

just fucking like, here I fucking am.

Okay.

My new answer is Nick doing that.

Also, I feel like I feel like I accidentally said Ryu's theme.

I meant Giles theme.

Giles theme is like the classic Street Fighter 2 theme.

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Goes with anything.

This next one is from Cassette Indexed, and I was tagged in this.

Okay.

So, Matt Apodaka, now that you're all about Final Fantasy 16 and Baldur's Gate 3, how do you feel about once proclaiming that space is better than old?

Wow.

Seems like you're a bit of a flip-flopper.

Many games combine space and old.

Final Fantasy has done this for ages.

Fantasy Star as well.

What do you think is a good ratio for space and old?

50-50?

Or do you tend to favor one over the other?

Now, look, am I a bit of a flip-flopper?

Absolutely.

John Kerry ass.

I'm fucking John Kerry up in here.

Okay.

Nick's wearing flip-flops right now.

It's true.

Wait, was there a modifier there?

Or are you just saying yes?

Bet I am.

Yeah, I absolutely am.

I thought there was going to be like a, but.

You know,

I have completely changed my mind in a way that I think is going to maybe

rock some worlds.

Okay.

I no longer care about space.

This is insane.

You are a flip-flopper.

I don't care about it at all.

I haven't thought about space in forever.

Wow.

You're going to get into like no man's sky in like a month and be like, I love space.

I mean, if I do, I'll do it.

But right now, I'm saying old is better than space.

Wow.

I've reversed my stance completely.

Um, because

at least with old,

there's at least stuff for me to do.

Yeah, space,

there's nothing for me up there.

This is the, you know, what I think that I think part of this, part of your current stance might be reinforced by the relative success of these other RPGs, the aforementioned RPGs, versus Starfield, which kind of came with a whimper.

Yeah.

And the problem with space is that it kind of can seem sort of vast and empty and formless.

Yeah.

Now,

so it interesting point keeps coming up.

Dune, Dune does, is space, but also old.

It has old.

It feels a little old.

Sand?

Yeah.

Sand is shorthand for old.

Sand was once rock.

Yeah, and also some of the, the, the, clearly some of the technology that's going on in that movie.

Um, it's, it's like stuff that we're, it feels like a step backward has been taken from where we are now.

But I mean, that's also part of Frank Herbert's lawyer.

They don't have phones.

Yeah, they don't.

They don't have computers.

They got mentats.

Yeah.

They got got that freaking box you put your hand in.

Yeah, keep me away from that thing.

Rochelle, Ranch, where do you stand on old?

Yeah, we learned your nickname, Ranch, last week.

Where do you stand on old versus space?

I've been trying to figure out what the context of space and old is.

So

old is sort of like whatever you think is old.

And then space is like

space.

Here's an example.

Here's, I think, this, it would be like science fiction versus fantasy.

Yeah.

Or versus like, you know, a Western.

Oh,

in terms of video games or just vibe?

I think it's just vibes, right?

I mean, this is your thing you want to characterize it.

Yeah, yeah.

I think old.

Wow, you're team old.

Old is where it's at right now.

And all the cool young people like me and Rochelle are saying that it's old is good now.

I've been saying, first off, I love hearing old is good now.

I am, I think I've been kind of a space guy my whole life.

Yeah.

But not that I just don't really think about them

as opposing each other.

I also love old.

I've always loved old, you know, but I think I probably leaned more into science fiction.

You know, I'm actually detecting the exact point where it changed for me.

Yeah.

Was when the movie Old came out.

That was sort of like the

i saw my own shadow that day you know and i was like oh maybe i like old because i really really liked old your movie i loved it um so this questioner tried to kind of call you out trying to put you on notice and you're basically defying this question and and and rejecting the premise of the question and saying that yes you do in fact you are a flip-flopper you do like

old better than space and that's okay you can do that and this is how i will dodge every controversy going forward.

I will just say like, yes, I did do that.

And basically, so what?

Wow, Matt is president?

No collusion.

Thank you for the question, Kassette Index.

And sorry that I changed my mind.

Can I say something I realized about myself

in the conversation we've had just now?

Please.

Which is that I like old and I like space.

I like them very much.

But in talking about Kingsglaive Kingsglaive and in thinking about Final Fantasy VII,

I think my favorite is sort of sideways from both of those, which is old combined with space.

That's I really like,

I really like the swords and the cars in Kingsglaive, and I really like swords and Midgar in Final Fantasy VII.

I think my favorite aesthetic might be

old and space together.

Yeah, that's like, I mean,

and you know, he's like a monster, but like, one of the things that worked really about Firefly, the show Firefly, was that it was old and space and that that was just fun.

Yeah, and also there's just something about like kind of the sideways, like it's like adjacent to, because I think there's something of Final Fantasy 15, at least what we saw from Kingsglave, that's kind of like adjacent to reality in a way.

Yeah.

And so it's kind of like something like Highlander, where it's like, yes, there is, this is reality, but also there are immortal beings and they wield swords and they try to behold each, behead each other because there can only be one, you know?

Yeah.

That one's not as expansive in terms of how the world is altered, but it's, it's the same sort of science fiction or fantasy concepts existing when, within our, it's low fantasy, I think some people would call it.

Yeah.

It's also, it's also, I think, why a part of why I love the show that we're covering.

in our sister podcast, Get Animate.

Yeah.

Which is solo leveling is dudes in hoodies carrying swords, raiding dungeons, and then having to pay their taxes.

It's fucking awesome.

Yeah,

that show rocks.

That's a great, great point, Heather.

And finally,

this last one is from Gorilla Cropolis.

Great name.

Great name.

Gorilla Cropolis writes.

You can choose any vehicle from any video game to use for personal transportation.

What would it be?

I thought about this.

My first thought was the Rocket League car.

Wow, that's a big car.

Big car, but also can go upside down and like fall around and stuff.

Really safe.

Yeah, it would be safe.

Really, really safe.

Hmm.

Any vehicle from any game.

Um...

Can I grab a star from Kirby?

Yeah.

Just sort of fly wherever the fuck I want.

It's sort of, I would say, like, it's a vehicle, but you can use it for personal transportation.

Like, that's a vehicle within that game, so that's allowed.

That's that feels like that's like physical fast travel.

I could just grab that star and it's just gonna whisk me away to where exactly I want to go, just like into the corner of the screen, could be so cute.

Um, that's a really good one.

A Mario Kart would be fun to drive, but it's like kind of normal, yeah.

Is a is a horse a vehicle?

Yeah, but you can't do what you do with them.

Well, I was like.

And to clarify, ride them off cliffs.

Okay, I'm going to pick the high-end luxury car from Cyberpunk.

Ooh.

Cause that.

You spend a lot of time on the interior of that car in certain, like when you're in certain cutscenes and stuff.

And it just looks so plush.

It just looks fancy as shit.

I've never been in a space that fancy, and the idea of it being like dropped off at my house, and then that's my car.

And I could, it probably has a lot of auto-driving features, so I could just be like, Yeah, take me to the grocery store.

And it would be like, right away, perhaps you would like to get some gasoline along the way.

Um, I like to drive a gummy ship from Kingdom Hearts just to see if it's as alarming as it seems.

I'd ride a chocobo if, because that's why I asked if a horse was a vehicle.

Right.

Yeah.

The chocobo

riding is fun so far.

It feels good.

I also might return back to Persona 5.

and just say

a functional rail system would be kind of amazing.

Yeah.

Stopping that thing and you see some silhouettes and you can get to where you want.

You don't have to wait too long for your train.

You wouldn't be concerned that the entire rest of the world was silhouettes and that you're the only human man there.

No, and then I could walk through them.

No, I'd be all right with that.

No clip.

Save me some time.

Also, also, like, not for day-to-day use, but it would be the Normandy and Mass Effect is awesome.

It's just like grab to have this big ass spaceship that you can just like hang out in and that's all your crew is there.

Like anytime you have like a big ship that's also like a base of operations, I really like that in a game.

I know I just said too that, like, there's nothing up there for me, but if there was like a thing where I could go

to like a big spaceship

for like a weekend, I would do it.

Yeah, of course you would.

I just want to hang out in the spaceship, see what's going on.

Um, but that's it.

They'd push you out the airlock for talking up old so much.

That's what you get for talking about old.

Uh, M.

Night Shyamalan tries to save me.

Uh,

he's up there, too.

He's like, Leave him alone.

Um,

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It fucks me.

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Yes.

Yes.

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