Scariest Gaming Moments

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Speaker 2 All right, so I think like for the intro, we should do something kind of Halloween-y. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, I was thinking, like, maybe we could do, like, we're, I don't know, trying to brainstorm like a scary game, but it's like, really, all the ideas are really like not scary. Yeah,

Speaker 2 maybe boring.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. Or, like, or like, maybe scary icons that haven't been in a game yet.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's good. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Something like that.

Speaker 2 Maybe, maybe Duggett is in it. Like, that could be like some scary stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,

Speaker 1 Duggett's pitching, like, maybe somebody, she, like, there's somebody

Speaker 1 like that she like maybe it's somebody she saw that she was scared in a movie of and wants a game like based on that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, tries to pitch like a completely round character or something. Yeah, or like or like what if there's like a strip.

Speaker 2 Oh fuck!

Speaker 2 Oh fuck!

Speaker 2 Fucking shit!

Speaker 2 What the fuck?

Speaker 2 The fucking dog just jumped to the blast studio. Holy shit! Don't just jump to the black.
What the fuck? That's fucking dogs. Just fucking jump.
Jesus fucking Christ!

Speaker 2 What the where are those fucking dogs coming? Holy shit! Oh my gosh!

Speaker 2 So much glass right now.

Speaker 2 Oh my god!

Speaker 1 A good boy.

Speaker 2 Who's a good boy?

Speaker 2 Don't do that!

Speaker 2 You're gonna get hurt doing that in the middle of the glass. Don't do that.

Speaker 2 Don't do that.

Speaker 2 What the fuck? Don't do that.

Speaker 2 We drop our controllers in a panic and shit our fucking pants as we discuss our scariest video game moments this week on Get Slayed.

Speaker 2 Welcome to Get Slayed, your one-stop show for good games,

Speaker 1 bad games, and every game in between. It's time to to get slayed.

Speaker 1 I'm your host,

Speaker 1 Death Cambling, along with my fellow host.

Speaker 2 That's me, Daiger Weiger, alongside Mr. Games himself, Bat Appadracula.

Speaker 2 Fuck, Bat Apple Dracula is so good.

Speaker 2 Can't really beat that one. Spooky names, so fun.
Spooky names is fun. You know, a long tradition.
Of course, also, by the way, hello, everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Premiere video game podcast, where this week we're talking about spooky games.

Speaker 2 Spooky games, scary games, scary game moments. What were you saying? I was going to say, did spooky names, did The Simpsons do that? Was that them first?

Speaker 2 Did The Simpsons invent or popularize scary names? I have to feel like the scary name pun predated The Simpsons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it has to predate.

Speaker 2 But the idea of making the entire, like, they certainly own, like, we're going to make all the credits. Yeah.
Spooky names. Man, that was event television.
Oh, Treehouse of Horror? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, as a kid, I was like, I always, always amped up for the Tree House of Horror episodes. These days, it's usually, it's oftentimes the season premiere, which is wild.

Speaker 1 I was going to save this for later in the podcast, but since we're on topic,

Speaker 1 since we're talking Simpsons,

Speaker 1 I got some big Simpsons news for you guys. Wow.

Speaker 2 You met Homer?

Speaker 1 I met Homer Simpson.

Speaker 2 Holy shit. Is he cool? What was he like?

Speaker 1 He is a moron.

Speaker 2 Oh, he's a bad tipper. Yeah.
I mean, like, him being dumb makes sense because you watch him on the show. He seems extremely dumb.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'd say that's maybe like his number one attribute is that he's a very dumb guy. Well, Well, he has a crayon in his brain.
He does. Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 That's later canon, but it does come out that he was actually smart, which genetically makes sense why Lisa Simpson is so smart. That's right.

Speaker 2 But Homer has a crayon lodged into his brain, which he snorted up through his nose as a kid, which makes him dumb. And he's a millennial now, by the way.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess he is a millennial. I guess they've had to age him up to keep him at 36.
God,

Speaker 2 Homer's younger than me. Owns a home.
Must be nice. Homer for a reason, I guess.
No, but I mean, like, Homer's younger than me in the sense of like being anchored in our current time.

Speaker 2 Oh, you know what I mean? Oh, I think like, like, like, like, like, Homer in a new episode of The Simpsons is older than I am currently. I'm pretty sure.
I'm sorry, is younger than I am currently.

Speaker 2 I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 2 If I said older, I apologize. Yeah.
I think George Costanza is my age. Yeah, he's like 33 or something.

Speaker 2 It's really funny. All right.
Sorry, Heather. We won it.
You have some Simpsons news.

Speaker 1 Art that I am about to show you is in-game graphics.

Speaker 2 If it's

Speaker 2 Bart and Marge fucking, I've seen it.

Speaker 1 Or the confirmed next season of Fortnite.

Speaker 2 Let's go. The Simpsons.
Oh, that was great. That does look really cool.

Speaker 1 Fortnite next season is The Simpsons. The entire map is cell shaded and it is Springfield.

Speaker 2 Wow. That's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 You get that little bit of a nuclear power plant, the downtown, all of it is.

Speaker 2 The Cookie Mart's there.

Speaker 1 All of it's there.

Speaker 2 Cookie Mart with a notably absent NPC.

Speaker 2 An unvoiced one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you might just be hanging out.

Speaker 1 I just thought you guys would really get excited. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 That's really cool. I might have to get back in there.
Yeah. It being Springfield is very fun.
And it being a complete overhaul.

Speaker 1 And me being the Terminator, like hunting Bart Simpson.

Speaker 2 This work is fucking great. Do you think if the season...

Speaker 2 is fun enough and interesting enough for you, you would maybe toss an episode on just to see what the heck this whole thing's all about.

Speaker 1 I would toss on an episode for you.

Speaker 2 Now that's a friend. What's the rude cartoon these days? If people are like,

Speaker 2 if, if like, like, you know, South Park, when it debuted, was a rude cartoon. Is there a cartoon that's like parents are like, oh, no, the kids should not be watching that?

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, first, kids don't watch cartoons anymore.

Speaker 2 Well, I meant like, like, it could be something on YouTube or whatever. This is classic.
This is...

Speaker 2 Unkh behavior,

Speaker 2 if I had to identify it. Nick's being a real unknown right now.

Speaker 2 I mean, what am I acting like like a childless man in his 40s who's completely out of touch with everything what do you want Nick you're sounding chopped my guy chopped that's what the kids are saying now

Speaker 2 I'm one of them so it's kind of like it's kind of part of it like a basket with peach preserves and a baguette oh no it's getting worse and I thought

Speaker 2 6'7

Speaker 2 6'7

Speaker 2 6'7

Speaker 2 6'7 wait what's 6'7 what's 6'7 here's the thing nobody has a satisfying answer to this

Speaker 2 Nellie did try to explain 6'7 to me and I was just like all right I'm just yeah all right cool You know, I'm just not going to know what this is.

Speaker 2 It's gotten close to the point of me just wanting to actually taste concrete and just like see instead of learning anything new. I do like being around.
I will say this.

Speaker 2 I think it is actually good for you, for your brain as you age to be around young people in some capacity.

Speaker 1 It helps keep you in touch. I think it helps keep you in touch.

Speaker 2 I also just help. I think like that energy is nice.
I think it's good to feel like you're part of a community that's not like a generational divide. You know what I mean? Because

Speaker 2 that is really, it's a a really toxic thing that happened to us all in the 2010s that we've talked about and was obviously exacerbated by COVID is we all became so tribal and we all like receded into our own subgroups and like it's just I sympathize with things like okay boomer not that not that I'm a boomer but but like

Speaker 2 Like I understand where that was coming from because boomers have been ruling

Speaker 2 the earth for all of our lifetimes and they're annoying as fuck.

Speaker 2 But also there is an element of like the carping between generations, which I think you actually interact with people of different ages. You talk to older people.
You talk to younger people.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I think it's good for your brain.
I think it's good for everybody.

Speaker 1 I think okay, Boomer also came from a place of like

Speaker 1 frustration, where it was like no amount of facts, no amount of like deconstruction of truth, of like illustration of truth would change or convince a single person's mind.

Speaker 1 And so eventually it was just like, okay, boomer, whatever. Like, like you couldn't, you couldn't bridge that gap north.
But hopefully what you're saying is you can bridge that gap south.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 And I also think like I'm not going to get a discussion with an older person at the gym, you know, about tariffs or whatever the fuck, but like I'll maybe talk to him about something else.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Like it's like, and I think that's still helpful to just be talking to different people. I guess it's sort of like

Speaker 2 because, you know, a lot of these, a lot of these conversations often are happening around like dinner tables or something like that, right?

Speaker 2 It's going to be your immediate family you're going to have a conversation like that with versus like a stranger out in the street. Right.
Like I saw this old man, this old ass man yesterday

Speaker 2 with like an NRA hat. And it like made me mad for a second.
I was like, what am I going to fucking tell this guy that his hat sucks? Like, he's just an old guy. He's going to shoot me.

Speaker 2 Like, what am I going to fuck? I'm not going to change his mind. He's going to throw his hat away after I say his hat sucks.
Right. I was going to leave him alone and just like be quiet.

Speaker 2 But like around the, you know, around the holiday dinner table when tension's already high, maybe that's when I'd pop off.

Speaker 1 I still, I still like the moment that the NRA defended trans people's right to own guns. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was like,

Speaker 1 the worst part about, and I think I said this on the episode around when that happened, the worst part about engaging in the present moment is constant hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 Like you say one thing and it's like, well, so do you think this? And usually it'll be like, no. And it'll be like, well, how do you justify that? And be like, fuck you.

Speaker 1 The NRA having the philosophical clarity to be like, no,

Speaker 1 give guns to trans people was so

Speaker 1 freeing and like effervescent to be like, okay,

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess that's just your position. Yeah.
Yeah. Like across the board is just give guns to people.

Speaker 2 We have a core primary position that we follow and that we prioritize.

Speaker 2 It's, you know, it reminds me, and I feel like this is like foregrounded less, but I mean, the ACLU used to be like, you know, defend like the Klan and, you know, neo-Nazi marches and such as under freedom of speech, you know, absolutism sort of grounds.

Speaker 2 And it's like,

Speaker 2 you know, it's like in the era of

Speaker 2 a lot of those people just being in power, that's, that's a,

Speaker 2 more of a, you know, less of a thing to cheer on.

Speaker 2 But like, I get it, it's the same sort of thing you were talking about of like, of like, yes, it's just, these are, these are people with, with established principles that they're following. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's not.

Speaker 1 Even in edge cases. Even in a worst, like the worst principle to have,

Speaker 1 at least it's philosophically consistent.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Love it.
Worst principle to have. My principal at Hughes Middle School.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 2 It's Disaster man, educators. Don't even get me started.

Speaker 2 Actually, I'm really sorry because he was a good principal. He was a good man, public servant.
I'm sorry for saying that. No, you're right.
Say it straight to camera. School sucks.

Speaker 2 I shouldn't have said my actual middle school. I regret saying that because now people are going to associate it with that guy, and I didn't mean to do that.

Speaker 2 They're going to go back in the archives and be like, who is this? Who was the first principal at this school? All right.

Speaker 2 He didn't go to middle school in 1908.

Speaker 2 You went to school.

Speaker 2 everything was in black and white.

Speaker 2 Learned math on an abacus. Learned to write on a cuneiform tablet.
You were there when they invented two?

Speaker 2 Fluff?

Speaker 2 God, man. Jesus Christ.
Well, now I guess I know which grade comes after first.

Speaker 1 I thought that was many.

Speaker 1 Many.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. We have one and then many more.

Speaker 2 Two, you say? What's next? Three? Yes.

Speaker 2 I remember my dad talking about like, if we had a different number of fingers on our hands, then we wouldn't do base 10. We wouldn't do base 10.
Yeah. I was like, that's fucking crazy to think about.

Speaker 2 Oh, that is interesting. If we had like, if we had like, you know, like

Speaker 2 three fingers and a thumb, which I think a lot, you know, certain there, there's species that have that sort of distribution.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it just was we'd be counting differently because that's how we learn to count. And that's how we form the basis of mathematics.

Speaker 1 That's fucking crazy. That's why.
why I can't do it with all my fingers. That's why the metric system is bullshit because they're just relying on their hands.

Speaker 1 Whereas the more complicated and evolved version of math is

Speaker 1 when it goes 12,

Speaker 2 24.

Speaker 2 God, do you imagine if Trump was like, because you know, like Carter was trying to usher in the metric system and also put solar panels on the White House.

Speaker 2 And then Reagan comes in and is just like, rip out those solar panels, get rid of the metric system, fuck that shit. Like, imagine if like Trump was like

Speaker 2 undoing the metric system.

Speaker 1 Carter, uh, doing trying to initiate us into the metric system gave rise to my favorite comedy sketch of all time, which is a Dan Aykroyd sketch called The Decabet. Yes.
Yeah. Oh my God.

Speaker 1 It is so fucking funny. It is impossible to find except on the best of Dan Aykroyd DVD.
It's not online anywhere. SNL, if you're listening, put it online.
You're listening.

Speaker 1 It's about reducing the alphabet to 10 letters.

Speaker 2 This is so good.

Speaker 1 It's not like, it's like, not like the hardest laughs.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
But it is perfectly written. A good concept.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 And, you know, and his absolute, like, dead, serious, like, introducing the decabet. Like, the way that he'll like just like fire hose comedy out of it.

Speaker 2 Oh, it's so good. That rocks.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Our, our Our producer, Rochelle Chen, Ranch, I should have introduced earlier.

Speaker 2 Rochelle, are you still playing Fortnite at all?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I play Fortnite here and there. Would you have any familiarity? Like, were you ever watching The Simpsons at any point? Episodes here and there.

Speaker 2 Here and there. But you're a little less jazzed about being able to control Ned Flanders and company.
Well,

Speaker 2 that sounds pretty cool. Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 What if they had all the, like, it's like all the characters, like, not just the main Simpsons. It's like a bunch of characters and everyone is here

Speaker 1 so far have been pretty significant really yeah but my ass running around is a capital city goofball disco stew

Speaker 2 I would love for you to watch a handful of Simpsons and just to know

Speaker 2 which non-major character speaks to you as like a okay.

Speaker 2 Just as an interesting idea.

Speaker 1 I think there's a smoking sisters. I know the smoking

Speaker 2 are good. They're pretty funny.

Speaker 2 We like

Speaker 2 Marge. Marge, we like Marge.

Speaker 2 Those women. Don't like Homer.
Don't care for Homer. And they're always.
That's how you know that they're sisters because they're like, we like Marge.

Speaker 1 My exposure to The Simpsons is pipeline through the album

Speaker 1 Simpsons Sing the Blues.

Speaker 2 Right. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which I owned without watching the show.

Speaker 1 Then

Speaker 1 The Simpsons video game that was the beat-em-up.

Speaker 1 Those are like my pipelines into The Simpsons. Part of the problem is there was never a fucking cereal.
And if you want Heather on board, you need a fucking cereal. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 There was so much Simpsons merchandise, but I guess not a serial.

Speaker 2 The reason I brought up rude cartoon earlier, just to put a ball on that, that everyone's forgotten about, is just because I think I've said this before, but...

Speaker 2 It's so weird to think about that The Simpsons was a rude cartoon back in the 90s that people were like, like, like, oh, this is a bad kids should not be watching this.

Speaker 2 This thing that seems like the most innocuous thing in the world, this most, this omnipresent piece of culture now. Marge had to write a letter to the first lady.
Yeah. And now, could you imagine?

Speaker 2 George H.W. Bush.
Yeah. George H.W.
Bush got

Speaker 2 mad at The Simpsons. Like, bash The Simpsons for having poor family values.

Speaker 1 We should have more families like the Waltons and less like The Simpsons. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 The Waltons are reference to a

Speaker 2 TV show that Eskimo completely memory holds. Yeah.
What is it? I think it was called The Walton. I think so.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought it was Leave It to Beaver.

Speaker 2 Was it Leave It to Beaver? George H.W. Bush got so upset about The Simpsons, he threw up the president of Japan.
That's true. Man, that's one of the funniest presidential things still.

Speaker 2 Just fucking puking on the Japanese prime minister.

Speaker 2 The Waltons was the show, and

Speaker 2 it was on for nine seasons.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Western. I mean, this is the, you just kind of get the coded of like what a real family should be, like a family in rural, mountainous Western Virginia.
That's okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2 You mentioned Leave It to Beaver and we are a video game podcast and this just came to me. I just remember.
So I was playing Street Fighter 2 as a kid.

Speaker 2 My older brother, my alpha older brother Nate, his friend,

Speaker 2 his friend Robert,

Speaker 2 was describing Chun Lee's spinning bird kick when she flips upside down. Oh, no.
And said,

Speaker 2 said, yeah, that's the move where she flips upside down and shows her Jerry Mathers. Now, I did not know what that was until I looked it up later.

Speaker 2 It must have been years later because there was no IMDB.

Speaker 2 Jerry Mathers was the actor who played the titular Beaver on Leave It to Beaver. Oh, this was like a next level.

Speaker 2 This is like the kids bespoke invented slang term for vagina.

Speaker 1 That's like it, I feel on the show.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, it's a real Ned Flanders situation. And I'll be like, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Sure. By that, we mean it's oakly-dokaly.

Speaker 2 My man.

Speaker 2 All right, let's talk about some video games we've been playing lately. It's, what are you playing? What are you playing?

Speaker 2 Hi, it's me, the wretched evil merchant, and I'm here on Halloween week with a spooky name. And it's

Speaker 2 Resident

Speaker 2 Uh

Speaker 2 Evil

Speaker 2 Mer Are you okay?

Speaker 2 Oh, Len, I'm not good at trying to give you a scary name for your name, the Resident Evil 4 merchant. Resident Evil 4 merchant.
Resident Evil Horror

Speaker 2 Merchant. Okay.
I'm glad you...

Speaker 2 You kind of fixed horror onto

Speaker 2 prefixed horror onto merchants. Resident Evil.
Instead of 4. Yeah.
Oh, instead of four. Instead of four.
I missed that. That is more clever than I give you credit for.
Thank you. I hurt myself.

Speaker 2 You hurt yourself. I hurt myself.
I hurt my head a little. Okay.
I'm okay. He's okay.
I just don't play games like that. You're oozing.
Oh, that's... Yeah, that's unrelated.
Okay. It's gray?

Speaker 2 Okay, so.

Speaker 2 You know, pepper. Yeah, I'm familiar with Pepper.
Yeah, yeah. The opposite of salt.
Well, Well, I was like,

Speaker 2 why can't you drink it?

Speaker 2 It's an interesting question. I mean, I would say probably because it's solid.
It's like a powder. You really can't drink it.
But like, you can drink electrolyte drinks. That's true.

Speaker 2 It's powder in drink and then we got a drink in a solution. So I ground pepper real fine

Speaker 2 and I mixed it with water to make myself a peppery treat. Wow.
That's the grain coming out of me. No, it's not good for you.
So it's like a pepper solvent. It's like a pepper.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like a pepper solution. Yeah, pepper juice.
Yeah pepper juice. Pepper juice.
Pepper juice. It hurts.
You know, there is something called Dr. Pepper.

Speaker 2 Is it possible that you were trying to reach out? Son of a bitch.

Speaker 2 They already did it.

Speaker 2 You can drink Dr. Pepper.
All right, so anyway, it's spooky week. Here on Get Played, and I want to know what you've been playing.
So, Nick Wagger, what are you playing?

Speaker 2 Resident Evil Merchant, thank you so much for teeing me up here. I want to talk about Resident Evil Horror Merchant.
I apologize. Thank you so much, Resident Evil Horror Merchant.

Speaker 2 I feel like I sounded like I said whore, not horror, which is always a danger with horror.

Speaker 2 It's dicey territory. It's really dicey.
No comment, Resident Evil Horror Merchant.

Speaker 2 What's the difference?

Speaker 2 He thinks they're the same one.

Speaker 2 You know what? We're not going to get into it.

Speaker 2 It's an antiquated term for sex worker. It's perhaps a little bit...
Yeah.

Speaker 2 We're not going to get swears. We can't.
We've stumbled too far down the road. I should not have brought it up.
I'm sweating. Horror.
I'm nervous. All right.

Speaker 2 Because you're scary. No, I'm not afraid of anyone.
I'm not. Yeah.

Speaker 2 In particular. Sex work is work.
I'm not afraid of. I'm a city.
And you're like, oh, no. I mean, that is true, but I'm not afraid in this instance.
I guess I'm afraid of women in general.

Speaker 2 So I would, if it's a female.

Speaker 2 I'll give you just a quick list of everyone I'm afraid of. Yeah.
Women, men,

Speaker 2 everyone.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I feel like if I went around the corner and there was just a titty there, I would get scared. You know, it's like,

Speaker 2 yeah, just a disembodied titty. A loose tit.
Yeah. Like, especially if it went across the ground, like

Speaker 2 and then go away. If you think it's like, wait, God, you just generated such a horrific image out of nowhere.
And it's going, and I quote,

Speaker 2 something out of silent hill. Yeah,

Speaker 2 like it's got like a crawling on the floor. Like,

Speaker 2 you know.

Speaker 2 It's got a loco motion of something that kind of rocks back and forth. Yeah, yeah.
Like a single-celled organism. Propelling itself forward.
The way you said it's like a snail.

Speaker 2 Locomotion sounded like loco-motion, like it's crazy. And it does sound crazy.
It is a little crazy to me. I'd be scared.

Speaker 2 If I went around a corner and there's a booby on the ground and then it skittered away, I'd be like, I could get out of here. I'd be scared as fuck.
I might shit my pants, honestly.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I might immediately shit my pants. Me too, brother.

Speaker 2 Hey, Matt and Weiger shit their pants because they saw a boob.

Speaker 2 Aren't those guys married?

Speaker 2 Resident Evil Merchant.

Speaker 2 So the NBA season has started. And speaking of which, there's an insane gambling story right now that just came out as a report.
Have you seen anything about this? Yeah, it's kind of fun.

Speaker 2 It's fucking insane because it's like an active player who was, you know, he's in the league, wasn't playing right now, Terry Rogier, but like is on a roster, was arrested for, you know, being part of a

Speaker 2 part of

Speaker 2 a ring that's doing sports gambling.

Speaker 2 And then a head coach, Chauncey Billips of the Portland Trailblazers, who's in the NBA Hall of Fame, or rather the Basketball Hall of Fame, it's more general than just the league itself, also got arrested for being in illegal poker games that are fixed.

Speaker 2 He was in mob-run poker games and apparently complicit in some way or working in some sort of scheme to rob the high rollers who are in attendance. It's fucking crazy shit.

Speaker 2 The details of how they're fixed were so funny. So funny, yeah.
Like, because they had like, they had card counters, they had like little cameras in it. They had contact lenses that had like

Speaker 2 sort of like infra, they were able to see infrared symbols on the back of cards and stuff. Like Mission Impossible gadgets.
Like just

Speaker 2 teenage kid spy stuff.

Speaker 2 Fuck. It's so fucking amazing.
So that happened. Like, the seat, like, we're in, like, week one.
I think they're of the season, and this just broke.

Speaker 2 Um, and uh, there's also, like, like, some players were, who were, like, it had previously been,

Speaker 2 some players who had some accusations or whatever were also informants in it, which is another thing. It's, it's got all these layers to it.
That's not what I want to talk about.

Speaker 2 What I want to talk about, but I feel like I had to note this because I feel like if people aren't following the NBA at large, they may not be aware of this. And it's the kind of thing of like,

Speaker 2 if you watch sports at all, and I know no one, I'm the only Sporto here, but I know we have some sports watchers and some sports fans, some sporto, you know what, Matt, I shouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 You're a hardcore LA Dodgers fan. Your Teams of the World Series, you're wearing a Dodgers hat right now.
Of course, you're a Sporto.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 2 I didn't take any umbrage with you saying it because I, you know, I follow the team.

Speaker 2 I'm like, I'm there for the vibes. I'm there for the hang.
I wouldn't say I'm like a big stats guy. You know what I mean? But I'm just like, I root for the team and I have a great time.

Speaker 2 And I also love to see the haters mad. You know, I love to see the haters mad.
That's the best feeling. You're what is best in life to see the haters mad.
It fucking rips. It's so good because people

Speaker 2 hate to see my boys win. And they just hate it because

Speaker 2 I'll say their teams are babies.

Speaker 2 And you know, this, this, and that about the salary calf.

Speaker 2 There's things to get into about that. Yeah.
But the guys are good.

Speaker 2 Joe Hayotani,

Speaker 2 maybe the best to ever play the fucking game. He's very bad at baseball.
He's so good at it. Handsome?

Speaker 2 Fuck, man. That's the sort of thing.
I'm just like, man, this guy is just like my superior. This is just like a better man.
It's so crazy that he's like the best to ever do it.

Speaker 2 And also an angel that walks the earth. Super, like, super sweet.

Speaker 1 That's also in gambling.

Speaker 2 That was not.

Speaker 2 Don't worry about that.

Speaker 1 He was gambling on the

Speaker 1 ball.

Speaker 2 It's kind of harder to.

Speaker 2 you don't really know what's going to happen in baseball. Have you seen how handsome this guy is? I do think if you are handsome, you get in trouble kind of like one time.
It's okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's okay. Because then you're just like a pretty boy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, they were just a little too pretty. They broke some rules a little bit.
Yeah. That is when someone is like...
Very, very beautiful and then they also have another skill.

Speaker 2 That's another thing that pisses me off. You see it with actors and musicians a lot, obviously.
But like, but like.

Speaker 1 Drew Carey tells this joke

Speaker 1 where he's like, where he's like talking about how there's paparazzi photo of Brad Pitt. Yeah.
And he's like, you know,

Speaker 1 you come up in the 90s, Brad Pitt's everywhere. Brad Pitt's everywhere.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 he's always the most handsome, sexiest man alive, whatever. There's paparazzi photo comes out of him naked on a balcony in Spain.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the guy's got a huge dick. Yes.
And he's like, the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 You also get that?

Speaker 2 You just get everything?

Speaker 2 I think it should be a trade.

Speaker 2 I think you should get one or the other. You shouldn't get both.
You only get so many DD stat points, or at least you should, but that's unfortunately not how actual people, human beings, are rolled.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So sometimes people just have it all.
Sometimes they just have it all. And when they're funny, too.
Yeah. God, man.
Handsome, funny, huge hog. Yeah.
Who?

Speaker 2 Sounds like the guy to my right right here. Oh, God bless you.
What a thing to say.

Speaker 2 Matt, that's so nice. Everyone's talking about

Speaker 2 how good Nick's looking specifically recently.

Speaker 2 Everyone's talking about it. That's really nice.
By the way, somebody in the Discord thinks they saw you in the neighborhood today, and I know that they did, but I didn't confirm.

Speaker 2 In Silverlake? Yeah, that's right. I mean, I guess

Speaker 2 it's fine for me to dox where the head gum. It's public information.
Yeah. I was just walking around.
They saw you at Sweet Green. They weren't sure if it was you or not.

Speaker 2 Oh, so they saw me sadly eating a bad salad. Yeah,

Speaker 2 and they said that your backpack was unzipped.

Speaker 2 That was a fucking nightmare. My backpack was unzipped all the way till I walked to the fucking coffee shop.
I had like multiple conversations.

Speaker 2 As soon as we're talking to each other, let me just pull it up real quick.

Speaker 2 So, so lucky nothing fell out of it. I'll just read what they said.
Yeah. This is from Gert Burst.
What's up, Gertburst?

Speaker 2 And they write, Today, I was working a shift at the Sweet Green in Silver Lake, and a guy came in to get a salad. I was 80% sure he was Nick Weiger, but didn't say anything because I'm at work.

Speaker 2 It was super busy. And if I'm wrong, I'd feel like a fool.
I'll probably never know for sure, but I hoped he enjoyed the salad. Gert Burst, thank you for your service.

Speaker 2 And I did not mean to demean the fine work by the people at Sweet Green. I more meant my choice of salad was like very neutral.

Speaker 2 It's not exciting for you.

Speaker 2 It was pure nutrition. Yes.

Speaker 2 I go to Sweet Green because I, you know, whatever.

Speaker 1 So you ordered the corn.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 A big bowl of loose corn. I've been getting the barbecue cold corn salad just to feel something recently.

Speaker 2 You know what? That one is pretty fun. Yeah, we can't get into it.
I mean, we look, we can do whatever we want, we can't get into it. But here's the thing: that one is really good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that one's good. There's some good salad this week.

Speaker 1 We're the captains of this ship, and the ocean is also.

Speaker 2 Gerbers didn't invent sweet green, he just works there. He's like, It's fine.
Yeah, I know. But I know it's just, you know, I don't want to seem like I'm, I know, as if I'm necessarily

Speaker 2 demeaning someone's work. No, not at all.
Yeah, no, no, no. But yeah, the particular salad I got was not was not too fun, but it got the job.
How many forks?

Speaker 1 Bowl of carrots, bowl of corn.

Speaker 2 Mix it up.

Speaker 2 This was like a two and a half to three forks. About how many you'd use to eat the salad? Okay.

Speaker 1 Can you heat up the sauce for me? The dressing, sir? Yes. Can you heat it up? Okay, let's.

Speaker 2 We can't be getting hot salad onto this podcast. Motherfucker, call it a sauce.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is a thing. I'm sorry, my friend.

Speaker 2 It's all right. Got any of that salad sauce back there? He doesn't even know the words.
The lore is merging.

Speaker 2 I will say,

Speaker 2 I should shout this out.

Speaker 2 I don't know if

Speaker 2 we recorded episodes since New York Comic-Con. Maybe we have.
This might be the second one because I met Wiggly Thomas. But I didn't mention this.

Speaker 2 I met a lot of Get Played listeners at New York Comic-Con where we were out there showing off our Doughboys comic. Lovely people.

Speaker 2 Some of whom came out and weren't even necessarily like, you know, like

Speaker 2 Get Played was the reason they were there. Good.
And that was like, that was just really nice. So thanks so much for everyone who came by and said such kind things.
I love it. And

Speaker 2 sorry, Mitch, that you had to hear that. Yeah, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. He'll never hear this.

Speaker 1 He doesn't even know it's a show.

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Speaker 2 Anyway, the NBA season has started. Yes.
And

Speaker 2 once again,

Speaker 2 I'm chill. I'm having a good time.
We're chilling. Once again, I'm playing fantasy basketball for like the 15th time in a row.

Speaker 2 And once again, it sucks.

Speaker 2 I don't know why I do this every single year. It's very fun to draft your team, but when you're actually playing fantasy basketball, it's just way less fun than fantasy football.

Speaker 2 So the fantasy football, which I don't know if anyone here ever plays fantasy football, but I'm in a league right now.

Speaker 2 So it's like you don't necessarily even need to follow the league all that closely. And the games are mostly one day a week.

Speaker 2 You know, you also got Mondays and Thursdays to worry about, but it's just like mostly you can just kind of anchor your efforts in one block of time. The NBA, there's games every single day.

Speaker 2 So you've got to constantly be looking at your roster and managing personnel. It's just so much more of a commitment, less so than fantasy baseball, which I played once and was completely lost.

Speaker 2 But fantasy basketball is just like, it's just so much work to do.

Speaker 2 And I also think it's just like less balanced than fantasy football, which is just like, I think a better approximation of the value of an individual player. And I guess that's not fully fair, but.

Speaker 2 Ideally, you want a good fantasy team to feel like a good, like, real team, if that makes any sense. Like, that seems like the ideal of fantasy sports, right?

Speaker 2 And I think you're more likely to get that with fantasy football than fantasy basketball, where fantasy basketball, a lot of times it's about stacking cat, like certain categories.

Speaker 2 Because the way these leagues are set up is nine-cat.

Speaker 2 So you mentioned you're not a stats guy. Yeah.
A nine-cat meaning nine categories of statistics. Okay.
And so things, it will be individual things like points,

Speaker 2 rebounds, assist, field goal percentage, three-point percentage, free throw percentage, turnovers. You know, it's just a

Speaker 2 roster of various things, a block, steals, you know, and that might be all nine.

Speaker 2 And it's, and you get a certain number of points, like a multiplier is applied to each of the categories. Yeah.
So

Speaker 2 it just kind of skews things where since you're trying to win,

Speaker 2 a lot of times the most common one I've encountered is head-to-head nine-cat. So basically, you're up against another team each week.

Speaker 2 You have nine categories of statistics, and whoever has the highest cumulative total in each of those categories, in in those categories by a majority ends up winning so it's like Supreme Court decisions you ideally just want you just want to win you just need to win five four and you win out right so it's good that those things are the same yeah

Speaker 2 but as such it is tilted towards you can get a you can like lean towards just trying to win the categories you need to win and then punt categories okay so you could be like you know what i'm just not going to even try for three pointers because i am just going to like have a team that's all big men and I'm just going to try to win rebounds, field goal percentage, you know, like

Speaker 2 I'm just going to try to target certain categories to win and the other ones will be toss-ups and

Speaker 2 like like a lot of times that's the best strategy, but again, it makes it feel like it's a little bit of an unbalanced build.

Speaker 2 Also, an inherent issue with this format is the timing of the fantasy playoffs, which happen in fantasy football as well.

Speaker 2 Fantasy basketball, the way the playoffs work, fantasy NBA, is they come towards the end of the regular season.

Speaker 2 But what happens with the NBA is towards the end of the regular season, a lot of players are resting because either they have secured their, like, like, hey, we're the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Speaker 2 We're the number one overall seed in the playoffs. We don't need to even win a game anymore.

Speaker 2 So we're just going to play all our bench players and rest our best players so they're fresh for the postseason. And conversely,

Speaker 2 hey, we're the Portland Trailblazers, our coaches busy fixing poker games,

Speaker 2 and we are trying to lose because we want to get a high draft pick.

Speaker 2 So we are going to rest all of our best players and just play all of our young guys and try to lose games so that we can ascend in the draft lottery.

Speaker 2 As such, if you have like a high-value player, like you have, for instance, Shay Gildis Alexander of the Oklahoma City Thunder and that team and he's going to be resting for the back end, all of a sudden your single best asset is removed from the rotation and you have to play a completely different build in order to try to win the finale, even if you were in first place the whole way.

Speaker 2 So it's like, it's like things like that just kind of like make the whole experience just kind of suck. But I just have to take that with,

Speaker 2 that's the experience. You know, the journey is this sucks and it's frustrating.
We're mad that players are arrested.

Speaker 2 The injury system is so like, you know,

Speaker 2 depending on what...

Speaker 2 Platform you're using, whether a player's injured or not is sometimes so you get such unclear information on that. You have to be minding your roster basically up until game start each day.

Speaker 2 And if you're like fucking working or you're in school or whatever, you got some other obligation. You're just not going to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 So yeah, it kind of just like ruins my life, but I like being in the group chat with everyone in fantasy basketball. But yeah, that's what I've been playing.

Speaker 2 That is so fun. My, just to speak on my,

Speaker 2 this is my first time of playing fantasy football ever. I don't follow the league.
This is an offshoot of my, the baseball team that I was on this year. Just like an excuse to sort of like keep

Speaker 2 up the season's over. It's like, it's like fun to chat with some of some of those folks, all those folks, really, but not everybody's participating.
I got to say,

Speaker 2 I'm in fourth place out of 10. Wow, man.
Wow. I'm doing really, really good

Speaker 2 to

Speaker 2 everyone else's surprise and my own. But

Speaker 2 it's a lot of fun, but it is very, very stressful to manage because you have to remember you have a good window of time where you can make some changes. Yes.

Speaker 2 And it is like always that window sneaks up on me every single week, even though it's like the same amount of time every week.

Speaker 2 But it is, it's a lot of, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.
And then some of the people that you draft, you just don't look into

Speaker 2 their personal lives or what they think and believe. And you just got to just be okay with who you get.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Travis. True sports in general.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no, no, no. That's okay.

Speaker 2 He's handsome and he's got a big hog.

Speaker 2 He's alright.

Speaker 2 Sports in general, that's a big thing. You got to just like, hey, I'm rooting for a bunch of millionaires.
Some of them have really horrible politics or are bad people.

Speaker 2 I'm rooting for concussed

Speaker 2 millionaires. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But also the like, like, even worse than them is that all these teams are owned by like, you know, tech assholes or petro state billionaires.

Speaker 2 Like, all these, like, they're just all these fucking absolute huge pieces of shit who are making the most money off of your fandom.

Speaker 2 Um, but you just have to, like, absorb it because it's like, what, what am I going to do? I'm not, I'm not going to watch sports. It's like, what?

Speaker 2 I'm not going to eat McDonald's because it's a bad company. I'm going to eat fucking McDonald's.
Man. Oh, man.
That McDonald's sounds good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We should do it for dinner sometime.

Speaker 2 Heather wouldn't allow. I know.
What, McDonald's? Yeah. We've had McDonald's for dinner.
Have we? We have

Speaker 2 different.

Speaker 2 We have sauces.

Speaker 2 Well, that wasn't dinner. That was for content.
That was just for fun. Yeah, that was just for fun.
That was extra food. Okay.

Speaker 2 Rich Hel, you ever get some Mickey D's?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I would say every couple months. Every couple months.
Because Mark obviously isn't going to indulge, but that's like a little solo treat. Yeah, or if I'm with some friends who are trying to get it.

Speaker 2 What's your standard order?

Speaker 2 I like

Speaker 2 the fish filet.

Speaker 2 okay

Speaker 2 you have to call it you have to call it the fish delight now

Speaker 2 for the for the president

Speaker 2 god damn it bad apple dracula what are you playing i'm playing a couple things of course wow okay i'm still i don't want anyone to freak out like as if i've dropped ghost of yote i'm freaking out i don't want anybody to be scared i'm gonna get

Speaker 2 scared no it's i'm telling you right now you don't have to do those things it's okay i'm gonna get back to it i there's just some some things that are currently, that are just new that I'm doing right now, but I am getting back to it.

Speaker 2 And I'm still chipping away at it slowly, but I'm getting back to it. Yep.
Okay. It's a game I intend to finish as well.
Of course. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Same with Silk Song. Yep.
Have not played Silk Song in a few days. Right.
Okay. Wow.
Because two things have occupied my time. Ball Pit.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 And.

Speaker 2 And Pokemon ZA. And this is what I want to spend the bulk of my time discussing real quick.
Okay. Well, first, just to say about Ball Pit.
It's unbelievable. Yeah.
Yeah, it's so fun. It's so fun.

Speaker 2 And you do sort of like, you have the option to turn on, auto, like shoot the balls. But it's, it like changes your rate of movement.
Yes. Which I like.
I like that trade-off. Yes.
Uh,

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 and I, so I, but I'm, I'm constantly auto-shooting. Yeah, sure.
Because I'm just like, I, that it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. It's fine to me.
Um,

Speaker 2 but when you have that on, you do sort of feel like

Speaker 2 like a lizard. Yeah, like a full lizard, just like licking stuff, like in like touching rocks and eating bugs.
What is

Speaker 2 ballpit is like vampire survivor. It's actually, I talked about it last week a little bit.
Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 It's like vampire survivors, but it's also kind of like brickbreaker, but it's also kind of like

Speaker 2 those games you see on TikTok that aren't real games, where it's just like a scroll of things coming toward you.

Speaker 2 It's exactly that, but real and good, actually.

Speaker 2 I love those fucking ads where it was like they would show those and then the actual game is like nothing like that. It's like an RTS or something like that.
It's so crazy.

Speaker 2 But the game,

Speaker 2 there's actual real strategy involved in like some of the characters. I have three characters now, I think, in Ball Pit.
And it's,

Speaker 2 I will say, my first couple of rounds, I wasn't feeling it. Yeah.
I wasn't getting it. I was just kind of like, oh.

Speaker 2 I don't know. And then I sort of just like locked in.
There's like a base building element to it, too, which is really fun.

Speaker 2 Not something I'm typically interested in, but I'm having fun sort of figuring that out.

Speaker 2 Well, it being a component, and you know, this wasn't the thing I got into last week, but it being a component of the larger gameplay, I think is like

Speaker 2 the formula there. So I think it's just incredible, really, really fun.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 so Pokemon ZA.

Speaker 2 Talked about this a little bit last week.

Speaker 2 The package that I wanted to be here last week arrived after we recorded.

Speaker 2 I open it up as soon as I get home, rip it open like Christmas morning, like I'm the freaking Nintendo 64 kid. Wow.
Yep. Which is nice.
I did have this thought, though. Maybe it's a little too sad.

Speaker 2 Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 I think you keep trying to say that I'm the Nintendo 64 kid. Well, you are.
That's you in the video. That's like how Forrest Gump was at all those other things.
That was you.

Speaker 2 I feel like I used to be more excited about stuff. Oh, where like

Speaker 2 a new game would come out or something. No,

Speaker 2 no, no, you're you're getting closer to my age.

Speaker 2 Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, yeah, we do.

Speaker 2 With movies or something, you'd be like, oh, I'd be so excited that a new movie's coming out. And then now I just kind of go see a new movie and enjoy it and enjoy the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I'm not like excited anymore. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Oh, Matt. My back hurts.
Oh, no. I got to pay taxes.
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Matt, no. I had to go to a doctor yesterday, get a special inhaler.
Have a seat, buddy. Let me get you a cup of hot water.

Speaker 2 Too hot.

Speaker 2 Well, my face.

Speaker 1 It's weird because it feels to me like the moment it happens is also the moment when you have the greatest access. And maybe those two things are related.

Speaker 2 That is true because I can just, I can have any experience I want, kind of.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 within reason, of course.

Speaker 2 You just get that podcast money. Yeah, that's right.
All that fucking degenerate gambling ads we do. Fucking lining my pockets.
That was the thing I meant to mention.

Speaker 2 We were talking, I was talking about Sportos earlier. I meant to to mention that there's so much gambling integration into sports these days.

Speaker 2 Like it'll be like you'll be watching a baseball game and then like a fan duel line will come up on screen and encouraging you to like make a specific bet. And that being so

Speaker 2 baked into sports media, it makes complete sense why, and it being legalized everywhere, that makes almost everywhere.

Speaker 2 That makes so much sense why there are now these fucking gambling scandals happening. Yeah, and I would wager to guess more people are watching those things than listening to maybe any podcast.

Speaker 2 Right, for sure. So be mad there first, I think.
But

Speaker 2 I used to be more excited about things like the idea of a new Pokemon game coming out would have been one of the moments of my year, probably,

Speaker 2 back in the day.

Speaker 1 And you'd be like, imagine the balconies on those houses.

Speaker 2 Come on, a second.

Speaker 2 Get his ass.

Speaker 2 So I open the package.

Speaker 2 I see what plush I get. I'm already kind of upset.
Yep.

Speaker 1 I get Chikorita. Of course you do.

Speaker 2 But instead of pivoting and just changing what starter I wanted to pick, I remembered from

Speaker 2 Legends Arceus,

Speaker 2 the other Pokemon are available at some point.

Speaker 2 I was like, I'm just going to hope that happens again and just honor my word and pick Chikorita. And Chikorita's been clutch, actually.

Speaker 2 I have them fully evolved, and it's great. My whole team is fully evolved.
I got a nice little roster there.

Speaker 2 Some of the mechanics that

Speaker 2 were in Legends Arceus have returned that I've liked. Like there's alpha Pokemon.
So there's really big ones. So I caught

Speaker 2 an alpha and they're aggressive on the

Speaker 2 overworld. So they'll actively pursue you with red eyes.
Yeah, and they're huge. And they have a lot more HP too.
So they're harder to take down. I caught an alpha.

Speaker 2 I can't remember the name of it, but it's the pre-form of Lucario, who I think kind of just looks like a sanctuary.

Speaker 1 Rialto.

Speaker 2 It's like Riolu or something. Yeah, Riolo, something like that.
And so I caught a big one of those, and he's like as big as you as a human character, which is really, really funny.

Speaker 2 So then when you evolve into Lucario, he's fucking massive. Wow.
And like for scale, I found somebody in the world that had a Lucario like next to them. And it was a regular one.
And it was like...

Speaker 2 Two times bigger than it was so funny. Holy shit.
So funny. So he's on my team.
It's great.

Speaker 1 Could you find an alpha trubbish?

Speaker 2 I'm sure you could could find an alpha trubbish.

Speaker 2 Like the alpha from 28 years later is a huge hog.

Speaker 2 It's actually coming out of the bottom of the screen of my switch 2.

Speaker 2 The thing, okay, so the things that

Speaker 2 I was not feeling it at first, again, with this, because I'm sort of remembering Arceus as like a sort of, to me, like a near-perfect experience.

Speaker 2 I know people talked about like the frame rate and stuff like that. But that's like, that at that point wasn't very important to me.
Right.

Speaker 2 With this being on a Switch 2,

Speaker 2 it runs very smoothly. That's the thing about it that I don't think anybody can say it doesn't do.
It runs.

Speaker 2 It's smooth. Does it look good?

Speaker 2 Is it a separate conversation? Because Fidelity and

Speaker 2 Frame Rate are different. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But it looks,

Speaker 2 I think what Nick called it a GameCube Sonic game, which is about the meanest thing you could say about any game, I think. It doesn't look too great.
It doesn't look so bad to me.

Speaker 2 I just kind of wish they made a stronger choice.

Speaker 2 I wish that they, because like I liked the Arceus look because it had this sort of like, I don't know, kind of like washed out, kind of like Breath of the Wild look to me, kind of.

Speaker 2 Not fully, but it had that sort of aesthetic. And it was going for something because it was a period.

Speaker 2 uh you know a period piece it was like hundreds and years before anything we've ever played before this is a contemporary day and they just abandoned that like just just abandoned an art style.

Speaker 2 So it's kind of just like more normal. And I was like, eh, I don't really

Speaker 2 like that.

Speaker 2 It takes place in one city. And so the thing about Arceus that I liked was that there was a hub, sort of like town, small town, and then you would go into the wild areas, and

Speaker 2 those would sort of unlock as you would go. And they were sort of, some of them are bigger than others.
So you'd have, you'd have a limited amount of time in each area.

Speaker 2 I much preferred that. Whereas this, it's one sort of big city that looks the same in any direction.
It's a circular city that's built like a maze, kind of.

Speaker 2 So like you can go in any direction, and there's like different districts that'll pop up on your screen and stuff, but like it doesn't look that different than where you were before.

Speaker 1 That building's flat, that building's flat.

Speaker 2 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 And then everybody in the city is standing like perfectly still talking to a Pokemon. This is crux.

Speaker 2 And like that sucks. And

Speaker 2 but, and the story is like whatever, but the story in all of these games are kind of just like whatever Where they really improved I think is the gameplay because it's an active battling system versus a What used to be a turn-based battling system right where you have four moves as you always would But they're on cooldowns.

Speaker 2 So you're like actively moving around the battlefield as you know your character that you've made by the way. It's a great dress-up game Love that.
There's some really cute clothes for the characters.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 The girls' clothes are much better than the boys clothes okay uh but it's a it's a cute dress-up game uh my dress-up pokemon trainer i mean here's the thing you could wear and the clothing options are not locked to a gender which is incredible love it it's it rocks yeah and so you can do you can you dress however you want on the when you're battling you can be running around and like dodging stuff but like your pokemon can't dodge anything but your attacks are on cooldown so if you sort of time your attacks right

Speaker 2 fights can be you know done pretty quickly. Uh, and they're just a little more interesting because it's just more active.

Speaker 2 But I wish you could, like, there was a dodge mechanic for the Pokemon, so you're not taking damage or something like that. It's it's kind of like a mixed bag, but I'm again, I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 2 I'm enjoying the battle. So

Speaker 2 you start rank Z and you're working your way to become rank A, which is really, really, really fun. There is a weird part of the game where you're not doing, you're not hitting every letter.

Speaker 2 Some of them, you're skipping chunks,

Speaker 2 which I'm kind of like, I kind of wanted to do the whole alphabet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're kind of taking, you're taking some of the game from me, but it would be too grindy to do that and stuff.

Speaker 2 But the thing that is really, really fun, which I think, Heather, you would really love, is that there is an online ranked mode

Speaker 2 where you can,

Speaker 2 it's like a player versus player,

Speaker 2 four-player

Speaker 2 matches where there's four trainers running around with Pokemon. You get three Pokemon per fight.
Everybody is capped at level 50. And so if your Pokemon are under it, you're bumped up to 50.

Speaker 2 And you get,

Speaker 2 depending on how many Pokemon you defeat,

Speaker 2 you get ranked. So like if you get, like, if you, you know, if you come in fourth place, you get negative points,

Speaker 2 but you still maybe get some overall.

Speaker 2 But if you get, you know, eight, eight knockouts or whatever, you get first place and you get all these points. And then your rank just continually will go up until you're ranked A, basically.

Speaker 2 And then there was an event to get a special special item that I was able to get by getting to rank K.

Speaker 2 And I was like, this is the most fun I've had playing this game, is playing against other people and getting one, getting my ass kicked at some points, but also just having a lot of fun because the matches then start pretty quickly.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's a pretty fun experience.

Speaker 2 I know people in the Discord are like pretty hot on it, actually, like just the game itself and are enjoying it.

Speaker 2 So I'm not trying to be like the game, I don't think, because I actually just don't think the game is bad. I just think that some things need to change.
Yeah. They just,

Speaker 2 it's a fine enough game.

Speaker 1 Should a trash can be be more than three polygons

Speaker 2 it's just like it's it's so and some of the stuff i'm just like why couldn't they i i've said this before but like other nintendo games and other games on the switch work well within the limitations of what the system switch 2 can do cyberpunk yeah yeah like there's no reason no excuse it's just

Speaker 2 anything but anyway i've i've gone on for so long uh that's what i that's what i've been playing i love it yeah i love it heather what have you been playing ghost of yote non-fucking stop.

Speaker 1 Let's go, let's go, let's go. Here's what I've learned, guys.
The game that I want is inside of Ghost of Yote. What does it take to get there? Custom difficulty settings.
Ooh. You can,

Speaker 1 beyond the, you've got your easy, medium, hard, lethal settings, there is a tab for custom difficulty. My problem with the lethal difficulty settings is that

Speaker 1 what I want is Bushido Blade, the game. Yes.
I want one hit kills in either direction.

Speaker 2 Just

Speaker 2 for our younger listeners, refresh everyone's mind on the Bush.

Speaker 1 Bushido Blade was a PlayStation 1 game where you use swords and anytime you hit somebody with a sword, it would like kill them or kill you or like cut off your arm, which I loved and became fixated on for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 So here's what I've done. In Ghost of Yote, I have set the enemy aggression to lethal.
So they are constantly coming at me and they are constantly doing their best moves.

Speaker 1 They're not like, you know, being idiots and they're coming at me simultaneously. Right.
You know, it's not like one guy's choosing and then the next guy's choosing.

Speaker 1 I chose lethal

Speaker 1 damage to me.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 I can only get hit at this point by any enemy once, maybe twice.

Speaker 1 Like any enemy on the entire map. The guys that come out of the grass, if they manage to get me with a spear, then that's it.
I'm fucking dead.

Speaker 2 My ass would be cooked.

Speaker 1 I kept

Speaker 1 on-screen notifications for off-screen attacks because what I don't like about lethal, like if you're imagine you're in a fight, you have

Speaker 1 like visual awareness that you don't have when you're playing a video game.

Speaker 2 100%. You have more than that, the field of view.

Speaker 1 So I kept on off-screen notifications for incoming attacks because I was like, if I was this fucking samurai and there's a guy charging at me, I would hear his footsteps.

Speaker 1 I would have a sense of him coming. So I kept that on.

Speaker 1 Then I found a mask that

Speaker 1 increases my damage to other people and increases their damage to me, which confirms any attack kills me in one hit, maybe two. Wow.
Right?

Speaker 1 Generally, it's one.

Speaker 1 And generally, the enemies now now take one to two hits also.

Speaker 1 Then I found an outfit that turns off fail, like there's two kinds of parries, perfect parries and regular parries. There's an outfit that turns off regular parries.
Wow.

Speaker 1 So now it's just perfect parries are your only option. Guys, I have not loved a game.
as much as I love this build of this game.

Speaker 1 I am like anywhere I see combat, I am fucking running at it as hard as I can. And I'm like, very often in every fucking battle, I'm dying.
Like, Dark Souls style, like,

Speaker 1 I get fucking murked. Guy comes at me from behind.

Speaker 1 There's enemies now that can throw like

Speaker 1 kunai at me. That shit kills me.

Speaker 2 That's so funny.

Speaker 1 So I have to, like, they scream before they do it. So I also constantly have to be juggling, like, my defense to, like, deflect it.

Speaker 1 I am, I am having so much fun in this build. I love that they have given me

Speaker 1 that much control over it that the game is now

Speaker 1 extremely fast. I don't have to wait for people to like come after me.
The boss battles suck.

Speaker 1 They suck because like my first, my first encounter with any of these fucking like dueling tree guys or whatever, like they're going to kill me like four times before I'm like even close to figuring out their first move that I have to figure out how to parry.

Speaker 1 And then after that, I can usually get like a momentum going and like, you know, keep distance and work it out.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 1 I've gotten a couple new weapons.

Speaker 2 Uh,

Speaker 1 have I looked up shamisen lessons in Los Angeles?

Speaker 2 Absolutely. I have.

Speaker 2 Have I looked up

Speaker 1 how much it costs to buy a Shamisen?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Absolutely.
I have. Imagine if you're like a Shamisen instructor, just like waiting by the phone for like years.
And then all of a sudden this game comes out. I was like, holy fucking shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my calendar's full.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm like,

Speaker 1 you, you walk around because you can play it at any time in the game. And it'll often like either lead you to like bonuses, but now I've unlocked things that'll lead me to fights.

Speaker 2 And so I'm like,

Speaker 1 fucking kill a village. Like, I don't like, and of course this tracks.
But also I really appreciate the Sucker Punch storytelling. And there's a lot of really nice turns in the story.

Speaker 1 But I do wish I could could skip through the basic NPC dialogue like if I can read it on the screen let me let me click through it because I liberate a farm I really don't need to know what these guys were up to I don't care like all I want to do is walk in and again

Speaker 1 I love that the game is built so that when you walk into a place and you kill a bunch of people and you haven't gone to the story that indicated you should go there, that they ask you, like more than once now, I've had the somebody be like, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 You should talk to so-and-so about about the guy he'll be happy to know he's dead and Atsu will go who and they'll be like what wait no he's a farmer he's like

Speaker 1 he really this these people were harassing him you have to go tell that guy and they're like okay

Speaker 1 I didn't understand the spyglass mechanic oh yeah I didn't understand that you go to the highest place on the map and you just look around with the spyglass and it vibrates and then it'll like show you what you think something is.

Speaker 1 And when you open up your map afterwards, Atsu has drawn like shitty versions of those things all over the map, which is awesome.

Speaker 1 I fucking love this game. I love it.

Speaker 1 I do wish, I wish I could skip NPC dialogue. I think

Speaker 1 when I'll work on a script and when I get frustrated, I'll go to the television, I will find one group of people to kill. I'll kill all those people, pause the game, go back to writing the script.

Speaker 1 It is so cleansing. It is so playful.

Speaker 1 It is so fun and it is challenging. But also, one of my least favorite things in a video game is when something is super challenging and the enemies have infinite hit points to

Speaker 1 like, that's not the game I want to play. Yeah.
I made the game I want to play. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah. And I'm having a blast.
That's rad.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, like, I've heard good things about the lethal difficulty, but I love that you've, you, it, it has enough things where you're able to tweak it to your liking. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You can have all of the lethal difficulty stuff you like, and none of the, like, there's no reason for me not to be able to have off-screen electrons

Speaker 2 for attacks.

Speaker 1 Like, if I'm like, because otherwise it just becomes a game of,

Speaker 1 and I also don't, I don't need the regular parries. Right.
Like,

Speaker 1 grind it into me that every attack has a certain timing.

Speaker 1 And I will then then get to experience the joy and the rush and the catharsis and the adrenaline of recognizing each of those attacks and knowing exactly when I have to parry. Oh, it's so good, guys.

Speaker 1 I fucking love it.

Speaker 2 What you just described, so you're playing, because I would never think to do this, like, but you're like, you're like writing, which I also do, and then you go, like, you, you take a break from that to just play like a, like a, you know, like open world character action game.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Does this, is this the kind of thing you would do, Matt, when you're when you're working on something? Because, like, to me, that's like a

Speaker 2 game. It's too much game.
It's too much game while I have a work task. Like, like, for me, I'm just, I'm just talking about for my own brain.
I'm like, I'll play like a, like a, you know, maybe a

Speaker 2 quick puzzle game or something like that. But like, something where I've got to like, oh, I got to remember where I am in the story.
And I got to, you know, like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 That's, that seems like a fair commitment.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'll only play the story sequences of the game like when I'm actually sitting down.

Speaker 1 But like, if there's like five, like in the area I'm in, there were like five farms that needed to be liberated, right? And

Speaker 1 they're automatically marked in red on your map.

Speaker 2 And that's all, just, that's just all gameplay.

Speaker 1 And that's all gameplay. There's nothing else happening in those, in those areas.
There's, there's not, not really any story progression. So I work on the script.
I write a page.

Speaker 1 Maybe I write two pages. I'm stuck on something.
I get up. I pace for five seconds.
And then I'm like, fuck, I'll just liberate a farm.

Speaker 1 Sit down on the couch, liberate the farm, turn off the system, go back to the computer, have the adrenaline and keep writing like it's fucking awesome it's it's give it a go it's great

Speaker 1 i mean it's it's really yeah and yeah it takes what i don't like about fortnite is that they they although they do they did add blitz right so blitz is like shorter like bursts of gameplay but my frustration with fortnite was i couldn't get a momentum yeah because it takes 25 minutes to do a zero build game like from start to finish so if i was writing and i get stuck and i go play fortnite i've lost both

Speaker 1 i haven't built momentum at fortnite and i've also lost the momentum of the script right but with ghost of yotte like i fucking get on the get on the game play the wolf song so that i know where the nearest wolf den is wolf den is always pure combat go to the wolf den wolf leads me to combat i kill a bunch of people and then get back on my computer wow it's so it's perfect man i don't want this game to ever end i want it to endlessly generate these battles.

Speaker 2 I can't wait for the online mode that's coming.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Like, in the same way that

Speaker 2 there is a, um, in the first game, there was a ghost of Yote, like, maybe.

Speaker 1 So there's like factions?

Speaker 2 Kind of, yeah. Where you can team up with another

Speaker 2 team up with. You know, you play with me.
But you don't. I think you probably do by yourself.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. You don't.

Speaker 2 It's not a bad thing. Oh,

Speaker 2 you want to fight me? No, I think you'd like take down bad guys in bases like together and stuff. PBM, I think.
Okay, okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 okay, that's fine.

Speaker 2 That's kind of interesting. They said you could play with me, and Heather said, No, thanks, actually.

Speaker 1 That's not what I said. No,

Speaker 2 no, it's fine. I just said I wanted to hang out and like have some fun.
That's not gameplay. As excited as she was when you she found out about it, her expression dropped.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I heard you throw up a little bit.

Speaker 1 No, because you said that was also the moment you revealed that it wasn't PvP.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. It was

Speaker 1 Matt.

Speaker 2 And interesting, she wants to kill me. She wants to hurt me.
No, God. She wants to get in the game and hurt me in some way.

Speaker 1 You heard, right? You heard, listener.

Speaker 1 That wasn't me.

Speaker 1 Matt, you know that all I ever want to do is play video games with my friends. I'm just mad that

Speaker 1 we can't kill other people together. Like a Fortnite squad.

Speaker 2 You know what? Now I understand. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But when you want to play Fortnite with me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe we can. Maybe we can, though.

Speaker 1 Ned Flanders and shit.

Speaker 2 Here's the thing. I'm always looking to get back into Fortnite.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's the best. I'd love to team up.
Guys, we have a topic and we're like an hour into the show.

Speaker 2 We're being fun. I do.
Yeah, we're having, we're having fun, but I do want to tee up our Rochelle because like you, Rochelle, you were playing something.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. In an effort to connect with my eight-year-old nephew, I started playing Minecraft.
Oh, wow. What do you think? I really love it.
Wow. It's really relaxing and

Speaker 2 I just really like everything about about it. That's awesome.
That's great. I've also been watching a lot of Minecraft content.
And I just watched a two and a half hour YouTube video.

Speaker 1 No, it was a movie starring Jack Blackburn.

Speaker 2 Can you imagine that movie was two and a half hours long?

Speaker 2 Length of Goodfellas.

Speaker 2 Ever since I was a little kid, I knew I wanted a Minecraft. Kind of how it starts.

Speaker 2 Honestly.

Speaker 2 It's this video where

Speaker 2 this guy did a social experiment where he made two islands and had 500 people on each island. And then they can all talk to each other.
And basically, it's like the rise and fall of a civilization.

Speaker 2 And it's probably the most incredible thing I've ever watched. Wow.

Speaker 1 Do you know what it's called?

Speaker 2 It is by a YouTuber named Ish.

Speaker 2 And these are like,

Speaker 2 you say these are real human players who are on each island? Yeah. Got it.
It's called A Thousand Players Simulate

Speaker 2 Civilization, Rich Versus Poor. Are they role-playing or are they just sort of like, you know, just seeing what happens? People are kind of like role-playing as like,

Speaker 2 you know, leaders come to the rise, different form, like little pockets of civilization

Speaker 2 happen, and then war happens in it. And it is, it is the wildest thing I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 Wow. That's rad.

Speaker 2 All right. Let's talk about something a little spooky, some scary game game moments.
I think maybe the reason we took so long to get to this point is because we're actually all kind of a little bit

Speaker 2 scared. Yeah, my teeth are chattering.

Speaker 2 We're talking scary game moments, times we've legitimately been unmoored by something.

Speaker 2 in a game something has uh happened and we have been uh spooked uh my number one is uh my wife walking in on me playing Honey Pop 2 Double Date.

Speaker 2 No, I think we should talk with like some.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, I feel like the kind of thing we're talking about, and maybe what we should begin with, is the Resident Evil Dog Hallway jump.

Speaker 2 Because to me, that's like, that's like kind of the or example of this sort of scary gaming moment. Like, that was the first I remember playing Resident Evil 1.

Speaker 2 I might have been watching my friend play Resident Evil 1. I can't remember

Speaker 2 if I had the sticks or not.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 just that being a being like a holy shit thing that I I've only seen that on like video I don't think I've played the moment personally myself but it's obviously it's so iconic and for good reason because it's legitimately very scary well the reason it works also is because of the way it's framed like the often in a game the the the terror won't be closer to the person playing the game than it is to the the player character.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 And in this moment, the player character walks all the way down the hallway and the dogs jump behind the player character closest to the player themselves which i think is the reason it works for sure like that the the fixed cameras yeah the way that they were able to show control the composition that moment like it yeah and it and it it's it it's uh you know you're 100 that is that is so key to the resident evil experience for the early early resident evil typically in games prior to that right like in your wolfensteins and your dooms when you're like fighting scary creatures, they appear in front of you.

Speaker 1 Like the

Speaker 1 I know this sounds needlessly academic, but

Speaker 1 they appear on screen and the player character is a safeguard, like a fence in between the action. and you, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like if you're if you're playing doom, the zombie is on the other side of your gun, which is on the other side of the screen, which is in the other side of the player, right?

Speaker 1 But in this moment in Resident Evil, the dogs are closer to you, the player. Like, I know that sounds stupid.

Speaker 2 It doesn't sound stupid at all.

Speaker 1 It's why it works.

Speaker 2 Yeah, 100%. Well, I mean, just like with any sort of like,

Speaker 2 I personally do like to be scared a little bit.

Speaker 2 It's a fun. It's a fun feeling.
Yeah. You know, I don't want somebody to scare me.
Sure. I saw you kind of getting...

Speaker 2 I was getting ready to go. You're going to get ready to scare me.
Yeah. Not interested.
I don't want it. I don't want that.

Speaker 2 You like being scared, but you don't like, we don't want someone to scare you. I don't want somebody to scare me.

Speaker 2 Like, I like to, I'll pop on a scary movie, get freaked out. I watched a really fucked-up.
I watched Talk to Me the other day. Not Talk to Me, the other one.
Yes. Bring her home.
Bring her home. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Don't watch it. Still haven't seen it, but I said, I like Talk to Me.
I'm going to tell you right now, Nick. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'd say wait.

Speaker 2 Just wait. Just wait for a little while.
Okay. I don't think it's the movie for you right now.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I loved it. It was great, but it was deeply upsetting.
But

Speaker 2 the experience of playing a video game is active and it's scarier to me than watching a movie because it's happening to you.

Speaker 2 It's not something you're observing. It's something that you're in control of completely and you are

Speaker 2 experiencing the scary thing because it's, you know, like it's just happening to you. So I get scared in many games.

Speaker 2 my earliest video game scare is not from a scary game it is from a game that i actually love

Speaker 2 and you guys are gonna think it's kind of a crazy one i'm ready marble madness no it's man

Speaker 2 i just wish those marbles would be normal

Speaker 2 somebody's gonna get these marbles under fucking control it's an epidemic

Speaker 2 i could slip everyone's laughing i could slip it's true you really could i could break my neck some loose marble i'd hate to see that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Man, it'd be kind of funny if I broke my ass on some marbles, real quick.

Speaker 2 Whoa, like that. Yeah, I mean, that'd be pretty funny.
If you weren't seriously injured, no, got like a big bruise on your butt or something like that. I bounce a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm laughing.

Speaker 2 Maybe I fart on accident. Yeah.
Maybe when a marble gets sucked up your butt.

Speaker 2 Now that airs escaped, there's a pathway for the marble.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you spit it out.

Speaker 2 And then like a couple other things come out too, like a bug

Speaker 2 and like a spoon or something.

Speaker 2 And it was like, wait, what? I was like, I'm dumb. And I ate a spoon earlier.
I ate a bug with a spoon and I ate the spoon.

Speaker 1 What the fuck is happening?

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 we're all on one. It's all us.
It's not just me. No.
Not just Matt.

Speaker 2 From Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow.

Speaker 1 I knew it.

Speaker 2 In Lavender Town. Lavender Town is where you you can experience the ghost Pokemon for the first time.

Speaker 2 And there's a tower called Pokemon Tower, which is a tower that is basically a cemetery, a burial ground for dead Pokemon, which up until that point,

Speaker 2 not something that ever crossed my mind that they could die or kill. Right.
Because when they get knocked out, you take them to the Pokemon Center, they get all better. These Pokemon

Speaker 2 dead beyond repair. They're corpses.
They're corpses. They're buried there.
So one, that's already scary to me as like a six or seven year old kid.

Speaker 2 And then you need a special item

Speaker 2 that allows you to see the ghosts for what they are because when you encounter them on the in the uh you know as a random encounter, they appear as classic looking ghosts. And to me, that's

Speaker 2 scary. Yeah.
When you're a little kid, I was like, what the fuck? There's like ghosts are in this fucking sheet ghost. What's going on? What the hell?

Speaker 2 And you need a special item to then see him and then you can see you know ghastly and haunter and stuff and then the thing that you're actually there to defeat is

Speaker 2 um a ghost merowak who uh is haunting the area and making everybody sort of a little upset but there's also this creepy lavender town music that's all deep deep deep you played deep that music yeah during a scary music uh episode of the show it haunts me to this day it does it's scary it's scary scary stuff it's rad it's i mean here's the thing it is cool that they they put it in there.

Speaker 2 It's a game for kids and there's freaky dead ghosts in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dead ghost Pokemon.

Speaker 2 I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 Guys, I was worried when you talked about this topic because there's only two times I've ever been scared in a game. And the rest of the time, I'm very like, oh, where?

Speaker 1 And I know to say that sounds, oh,

Speaker 1 this stuff is so fake. I don't care.
Like, I'm not trying to be an edgelord, but like, there's, there's legitimately only two big scares I've ever experienced in a game. One is Silent Hill 2.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And it is the moment when I and my friend who were playing realized that the hallway we were in.

Speaker 1 There are moments where the walls turn differently, like they corrode and they corrupt. And then

Speaker 1 you're in what appears to be a totally different location.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you're like, oh, fuck, I'm in the

Speaker 1 hell place again. And you don't understand why.

Speaker 1 When we realized that it was the exact same building, but fucked up,

Speaker 1 was deeply unsettling to the point of being scary. Like we were both like,

Speaker 1 oh my God. Yeah.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
It's the same place. It's the same place.
Total goosebumps, total like, yeah,

Speaker 1 like creeped out like full fear.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 The other was

Speaker 1 PT.

Speaker 2 Oh, yes. Yeah.
PT's on my list. Yeah.
PT is on here too.

Speaker 1 Like, PT

Speaker 1 is sort of unknowable.

Speaker 1 Like, you, it's scary because you don't know what is happening. Yes, right.

Speaker 1 And that disorientation and the lack of what seems to be exploitable patterns and just the ultra-realism of that hallway makes you feel like you are somehow watching/slash playing a movie.

Speaker 1 And it is deeply unsettling when you encounter that weird lady.

Speaker 1 But that was it. And I really

Speaker 1 like sort of dug in. I was like, are there moments in Resident Evil games? Are there moments in like VR games that I've been scared? And the truth is, no.

Speaker 2 For Resident Evil 4, Irene. That scares me.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 With both Silent Hill 2, I think Silent Hill 2 to me is a good amount scarier than Resident Evil 4 to me because

Speaker 2 Leon as a character, you sort of, if you're, if you're following me on the it's happening to you thing, you sort of assume the role as Leon and Leon kicks fucking ass and he rocks.

Speaker 2 It's more, it's like an action horror game.

Speaker 2 So like, yeah, I mean, like, there's, there's scary stuff, but it's like less of, less about that versus Silent Hill 2 is like a legit, like terrifying and unsettling.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and you play James Sunderland, who's a fucking loser.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And everybody you come across is like, uh,

Speaker 1 I don't feel good. And you're like, stop.
Like, there's a guy just puking in a toilet when you meet him, right?

Speaker 2 That's right, Eddie. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is that before or after he eats the pizza? I forget the sequencing. I think it might be before.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Weirdly, though, I think I would.

Speaker 1 Rish Hell would know. Rich Hell has played it most recently.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think it was the pizza was after. I think it is after.
Kind of a crazy move. I'd be eating like a super south than eat a pizza.
Yeah. I'd be eating like a banana or some saltines.

Speaker 2 Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 Some white rice, plain.

Speaker 2 Uh, but with Silent Hill 2, there's like there's moments in that that are designed to be scarier than other moments.

Speaker 2 The whole thing is obviously very scary when you first see Pyramid Head just like waiting behind the bars.

Speaker 1 That's fucking fucking Pyramid Head is great. Like, it's for me, the moment is more like, what is that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, who, why, yeah, why?

Speaker 2 Um, I have something from

Speaker 2 Alan Wake 2 did jump scares, I think, really, really well. Wake.
If too much, if too much. Because there's some really, because sometimes it'll just be like, wake.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Or it'll be like the whole screen will be like of a human face that's all like, ha, ha, ha, ha, like, it'll be like, it'll be really scary like that. And it's fucked up.

Speaker 2 But there's a sequence where you play, when you're playing as, when you're playing as Saga the Detective, and you're in a nursing home.

Speaker 2 And nursing homes are kind of scary, I think, just in general, kind of.

Speaker 2 But like, it's the vibes there are really, really bad.

Speaker 2 And you're like looking for a really spooky old lady who's like all demonized by the, I can't remember what it's called in the, by the darkness or whatever, uh, in the, in the game.

Speaker 2 Uh, and it's, uh, that's a, that's a killer combination, by the way. Scary old lady.
Yeah. Ah, man.
Some of the scariest stuff you can get. I've, um,

Speaker 2 I was driving back from the gym today and I legit had the thought there was a senior center. I was like, I wonder what the minimum age to move in there is.

Speaker 2 Could I get my ass in there at like 50 and just like have that be like, oh, they take my meals. I have people I like, I have like friends to play board games with, you know?

Speaker 2 Honestly, having, and then you have a built-in community. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, it seems,

Speaker 2 it seems fine. Like, if you're treated nice, at least, I know sometimes it's not always the case, but right.
I know sometimes a lot of these places are overworked.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't want to be one of those crooked alms. Yeah, you don't want to be one of the nice ones.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 it would, I bet you they'd take you. Yeah,

Speaker 2 be the fucking king of that. Yeah.
Are you here to help? No, I'm here to, I'm living.

Speaker 2 My wife dropped me on.

Speaker 2 She said she might visit me sometime.

Speaker 2 Anyway, she's off to her private yoga lesson.

Speaker 2 She's wearing makeup for some reason. She said she didn't want to make Raul wait.

Speaker 2 It'd be so funny to trade you in for a Latin home.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. She'd be so happy.
What a fucking upgrade. Like Antonio Bender is in his fucking prime.
Hey, Antonio Bender is now, honestly. He's still looking good.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He gets cuckolded and baby. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 But he's like, he's looking good as hell. He looks great.
Yeah. Do you remember in the Telltale Walking Dead? There's a lot of scary stuff.
There's not that much scary stuff in it.

Speaker 2 There's like, it's a horror experience. It's a very upsetting

Speaker 2 franchise.

Speaker 2 There's a family that you meet that seems like they're really, really nice. And then like they're very eager to help you out.

Speaker 2 But then you learn that they're killing people and eating them. Yeah, they're cannibals.
And it's fucking and it's specifically

Speaker 2 because of the rules of the walking dead, they are keeping people alive. Yes.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 they're drugged and they're being dismembered

Speaker 2 so that their meat is fresh and not zombified. It's so scary.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's fucking awful. Because that's not like jump out at you scary.
It's just more like, oh, that's

Speaker 2 what the fuck? Yeah, seriously, you're doing that shit?

Speaker 2 Seriously? You're a cannibal. Really?

Speaker 2 You eat people? What? You ran out of chips?

Speaker 2 You don't got chips no more? You're eating people now? Disgusting. You must have a stockpile of chips somewhere.
Get some chips. What are you doing, eating people? I guess you need some protein.

Speaker 2 So maybe you have a little bit of people. I would just be eating chips.
I'm going to put some chips.

Speaker 2 I was going to bring up something that is, I think, only, I don't know if anyone else has played Half-Life 2, but it's an incredible game.

Speaker 2 But Half-Life 2 has a sequence called Ravenholm, which is like, it's a sci-fi game, but this is the part where it's like straight up horror. The closest analog I can think of is

Speaker 2 kind of like Bill's Town in The Last of Us. You know what I mean? You get to that area, and it's just kind of like this,

Speaker 2 this, you know, like

Speaker 2 this community that has been completely ravaged. And it's kind of like, in a sense, kind of like self-contained.

Speaker 2 But there's all these like traps in it. There's all these like head crab zombies, which are just like very akin to the cordyceps zombies.

Speaker 2 It's the same sort of thing, except they've got like a like an alien crab on their face. And it's just an absolute fucking nightmare.
It is so fucking scary. I got to play this thing.

Speaker 2 I think Half-Life 2, I would imagine if you played it for the first time today, would hold up because it's got some elements that are like going to feel a little bit dated, but it is just like a really cool design.

Speaker 2 And it is a

Speaker 2 is Half-Life 2 the one that starts with pick up the current, yes, and I have played it

Speaker 1 million years ago. Yeah,

Speaker 2 pick up the current.

Speaker 2 Let me, I'll just bring up a screenshot just so you can get the idea of the sense of

Speaker 2 Ravenholm. I mean, like, it is just this sort of like moody, like dark, sort of like, you know, ravaged village.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 there's a there's a there's one guy who's there who's a

Speaker 2 Father Gregori, and he's the only person who's like not like, you know,

Speaker 2 corrupted and can actually,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 be something of an of an NPC. But it's so cool.
And the, the, yeah, it's, it's just one of the things that's awesome about it is

Speaker 2 just it being a horror section inside of a game that is not a horror game. It's just like a really cool tangent and it makes it really, really unexpected when it hits and really satisfying.

Speaker 2 So that's one that stands out to me. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised when I think back on The Last of Us, I certainly felt sad and I felt emotions, but I wasn't really scared in The Last of Us. I think the closest is the

Speaker 1 jump scare in Last of Us 2 when you meet the fast ones. Because like there's like little fast guy clickers that like run on all fours.
And there's like a moment where it like runs in front of you.

Speaker 1 I think it does the same thing as the dogs where it's closer to camera than it is to Ellie.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's a really good jump scare. But other than that, the game's not scary.

Speaker 2 Two things that got me in. Last of us, yeah, Last of Us Part 1, I don't remember being particularly scary.

Speaker 2 There's some times when it's a little,

Speaker 2 but I'd like it.

Speaker 2 It's less of that experience. I guess maybe when you see the bloater for the first time and some of the kills are like kind of like horrifying.
But um what about the damn rat king?

Speaker 2 The rat that's what I was gonna say,

Speaker 2 the rat king in Last of Us Part 2 is one thing that that that boss is like so such a fucking nightmare to look at and to to fight against and the other thing in Last of Us Part 2 is

Speaker 1 There's a moment when you are crafting on a table and it's a scripted thing when it when an enemy pulls you out and it's one of those things like oh I didn't realize this could possibly be interactive right um so that's another thing that I remember getting me with I've seen versions of that like on TikTok where people bomb, like set up proximity bombs behind Ellie for the thing, and it kills the people that are off screen for the

Speaker 1 moment. So you'll be building the gun and all of a sudden the whole screen will shake and explode.

Speaker 1 And then she'll like stop and like turn around and they're all dead. That's so funny.

Speaker 2 The sneaky ones, though, I don't like those in particular because that is, I think, my least favorite form of human locomotion. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just like, just like

Speaker 2 a little creeper or creeping sneakies. No, no, no.
Like those little worm guys in 28 Years Later? Worms. Brown guy.
Yeah, they're just like these crawly little worm guys. They eat worms.

Speaker 2 I love this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I got to watch it.

Speaker 2 You haven't seen it. I haven't seen it.
I just know about the hog, and I know about, now I know about these worm guys. I saw the preview for the new one.
The new one. Yeah.
That's cool. Yeah, why not?

Speaker 2 Bone temple. You know, hop in at the Bone Temple? Not knowing.

Speaker 2 Watch 28 Years Later. It's a good movie.
You don't have to watch any other 28 movies to understand it. I'll pop it on this weekend.
Yeah. Honestly,

Speaker 2 why not? I have another scary thing. Okay.
It's more of the vibe. It's not necessarily a singular moment.

Speaker 2 I feel like, and this happens in other games, but I feel like the Bioshock games really, really nailed this. Hearing somebody from far away.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Down a hallway who's just being like, oh, the experiments failed, but I told them it would be good or something. And it's like, ah, fuck.
There's a freak over there. Like, I'm going.

Speaker 2 I'm going this way. I i thought you more meant like someone going like oh that too

Speaker 2 but like you know there'd be some people that are like i can't remember what the whole deal is in those games yeah but there'd be people who are like half regular

Speaker 2 or like half fucked up by whatever the thing was and they're like i'm crazy and i'm over here now and it's like oh great i'm go that's you're in the place i'm going right right i don't want to find you or see you yeah i gotta I gotta get over being afraid of those games.

Speaker 2 I start every single one of them, get afraid, turn it off. New one comes out.
Understandable. Oh, maybe I'll like this one.
Yeah. Oh, you're the big guy in this one?

Speaker 2 That's going to be easier for me because he's big. I'm not.
Let's do this. Yeah.
Too scary. Don't do it.
Start the third one.

Speaker 2 There's racism in this one. Yeah.
I'm not doing this. I'm out of here.

Speaker 2 It's got that. And it's scary.
Miss me with it.

Speaker 1 There's another moment in last, or in sorry, Silent Hill 2,

Speaker 1 where you're going down

Speaker 1 a stair. Maybe this is in Silent Hill 1.
You're going down a staircase and you hear a baby crying that you reminded me of. And you're just like,

Speaker 1 oh man,

Speaker 1 what could this possibly be? And you get all the way to the bottom and there's no baby. There's no nothing.
No. But the whole way there, because it's a long walk, you're conjuring for yourself.

Speaker 1 what it could be and what they will subject you to.

Speaker 1 And I like that ultimately they don't answer it with like, you know,

Speaker 1 like a stroller monster or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the baby's red.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, okay.

Speaker 1 But that hearing something in the distance, that's what it reminded me of.

Speaker 2 It's like, and I know it's like, it's just like my favorite reference or it's this Bioshock thing, but sometimes it'll just be like,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 2 you hear that. Well, the, the, the little radio in Silent Hill 2 is.
good for that. Yes, yep.
You don't always necessarily see the two sets of legs skittering around or whatever.

Speaker 2 Man, that game has really got everything.

Speaker 1 Sneaky. Legs on top.
Legs on bottom.

Speaker 2 Doom was mentioned, and that was just making me think of Doom 3 because they also, you're in hell and there's babies crying. That's another thing that's really cool.
The baby and PT really fucked up.

Speaker 2 And when we did the PT episode, didn't we learn that Lisa, the ghost, is like tied to your character? Yes, even though you can't see it. It's just there at all times.

Speaker 2 You just kind of feel the presence.

Speaker 2 It's one of those things where it's just like, that almost feels like it's like a way

Speaker 2 and helped guide the design more so than it actually directly affects the player. But it's really a cool detail.
I don't know if he...

Speaker 1 Kojiman did say that he wants to scan a ghost.

Speaker 1 Like fully, like, honestly, it was like, I want to be the first one to scan a real ghost and put it in a game.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't be shocked if he's like got a ghost on a computer somewhere.

Speaker 1 I mean, like, what if that man on accident unleashes hell because of his desire to make an authentically scary game experience? Yes.

Speaker 1 And somehow manages to the ring an actual ghost into every copy of his game.

Speaker 2 It's frightening to think what he's capable of.

Speaker 2 But I was going to ask, Ranch, are you familiar with PT at all?

Speaker 2 I've watched a playthrough.

Speaker 2 Okay. Wow.

Speaker 2 It's short enough of a playthrough. It's like the whole thing you can do in like 34 minutes or something.

Speaker 2 I sent it to my mom and she was like, wait, is there more of this? I want to see more of it. I was like, no, you saw saw all of it.
Like, she loved it. She thought it was so uh scary and fucked up.

Speaker 2 She loved it. It's funny that that thing ends with Norman Rita.
Yeah, she's like, Oh, I'm just in this too, by the way. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I had one that I thought of. There's a game we covered in an old format, Doki Doki Literature Club.
Oh, yeah. But that game gets really unsettling.

Speaker 2 And in particular, there's a moment where there's a character Monica, where, do you remember that there's a there's an interaction? It's kind of meta.

Speaker 2 You have to go into the file structure and manually delete the character file. And then you watch that character dematerialize within the game.

Speaker 2 But like, that's the, like, it's a thing you have to do to progress. But it's just like one of those things that's really just the way it plays out is so unsettling.

Speaker 2 It's not, it's not like a jump scare, but it is like a thing that says, that's, that sits with me as like a horror moment in the game. Yeah, totally.
That, I remember that being insane. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Man, I can't believe that we played that. I know.
It feels like that was 100 years ago. It probably was.

Speaker 2 Jesus Christ. Something that

Speaker 2 uh-oh. We've been doing this podcast too long.
No, no, not long enough. Not long enough.
10 more years, 10 more years. No, I'm not saying we're going to stop.
We're going to stop it.

Speaker 2 It's just like it's one of those things. I was just like, you, you, like, like, holy shit, a lot of time has passed since we launched this fucking thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's interesting to track the progress of time. We've had two PlayStations since we started.
Yeah. And hey, PlayStation 4 was out already at that point.
Hey, two presidents. Hey,

Speaker 2 not by my count. Should have only been one.

Speaker 2 I was thinking about this.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that God just destroyed part of the White House.

Speaker 2 It's so funny.

Speaker 1 Tore it down. And there's no like.

Speaker 2 This part of it's going to be green. I decided that this part of it's just going to be green.
We're going to paint it green.

Speaker 1 There's no system of like, it's.

Speaker 2 Construction takes years too, by the way.

Speaker 1 But also it's funny because it's like, it's like.

Speaker 1 In no part of the con, I'm sure there's laws about it, but in no part of the Constitution was anybody ever like, you can't change your own house. And the president's house is the White House.
Right.

Speaker 1 So it tracks that somebody who lives in that house would be like, I want to change my house.

Speaker 2 Right. Right.

Speaker 1 But it's wild to see just like

Speaker 2 that part is just gone. I was thinking about this as a non-horror game, but a scary moment to me near the end of Metal Gear Solid 2.
Okay.

Speaker 2 When is it the president, right? The colonel is telling you to like turn the plate, turn the game off, right? I hadn't turned the game off. I hadn't experienced that before.

Speaker 2 That was my first, when the first time I ever even knew about that was when I played it for the first time. And I was just like, they can't tell me to do that.
What is he doing?

Speaker 2 Why does he know I'm playing the game? Stop. Fucking stop, dude.
Just like that sort of wall break. Yeah.
You're just not expecting that type of thing in a game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And obviously Psychomantis before it,

Speaker 2 which probably was freaky for people when they played that, even.

Speaker 2 But just just weird. Just

Speaker 2 yeah, an unsettling vibe to say the least.

Speaker 2 There's obviously so many great games in the in the horror genre. I've not ever played, I watched my friend play Dead Space when it came out when it was new, and I like made him stop.

Speaker 2 Fuck this actually. No, this is too scary.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 2 What I did think of was

Speaker 2 Clock Tower. This was a PlayStation 1 horror game.
But just what was scary about Clock Tower is there was this motherfucker Scissorman who had big-ass scissors.

Speaker 2 Let me tell you, big scissors, very scary concept that I've not seen before or since. And also, he had like a Scissorman theme that would happen.
And so, yeah, that was one scary antagonist.

Speaker 2 This guy thinks that Edward Penis Hands was the original movie. Yeah.
Edward Scissor Hands is the parody. Yep.
My brother got me

Speaker 2 Edward Penis Hands on DVD for my 18th birthday.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 2 two things

Speaker 1 for a big scissor, and also, I think, maybe your favorite anime of all time, you should watch Kill LaKill.

Speaker 2 I've watched some Kill LaKill. I didn't, I didn't, like, I fell off of it, but I watched like the first few episodes.

Speaker 2 Okay. There's some scissor enemies in Silk Song, by the way.

Speaker 1 Okay. The other thing is Clock Tower reminds me of back in 1995.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, we played back in the game.

Speaker 1 That other weird horror game we played. Not scary, but evocative of Clock Tower.

Speaker 2 The title of the game is back in 1995 and it's a more contemporary design that's meant to evoke those sorts of 90s

Speaker 2 survival horror. Twin Peaksy,

Speaker 2 sort of in its weirdness,

Speaker 2 sort of Alan Wake light. Yeah.
Kind of. Yep.

Speaker 2 God, the stuff in the, I mean, there's so much stuff in Alan Wake 2 that I'm surprised you haven't played the whole thing because

Speaker 2 I think you would love it. I think Mary would love Alan Wake 2.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would love to play

Speaker 1 Alan Wake 2 with Mary. She is

Speaker 1 drowning in here.

Speaker 2 Of course. Drowning.
Of course. Two successful people under one roof.
How could they have time to play a great video game? How could they?

Speaker 1 I mean, I get to play five minutes of Ghost of Yotte at a time.

Speaker 1 Does anybody? I downloaded the Silent Hill 2 remake for her and I to play, and we just haven't gotten a chance to play it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. I kind of want to replay it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I really loved the remake. It's really, really, it's really, really good.
But I was like, when am I going going to? I can't elect to replay a game when I have

Speaker 2 an active and ever-growing backlog. I don't have time for this fucking thing.
Yeah. I know what you mean.
No. But it's really, really great.
That rocks.

Speaker 2 Do we do... Does anybody have any other ones or should we move on to a segment? No, let's do a segment.
Let's do a segment. It's time for the question block.
All right, these are all from our Discord.

Speaker 2 Discord.gg slash get played. Here we go.
This one's from brown and groupon hi what's up brown and gopon groupon

Speaker 2 i don't understand it but i i like it matt have you messed with the new free-to-play skate at all or are you a uh tony hawk's pro skater purist i have messed with it i have to and i have to report it's not it's not for me okay it's not great it's too it's too floaty oh i feel like the important thing about what tony hawk gets right is that you sort of, you do feel like you have weight on the skateboard.

Speaker 2 Right. And that, like, that that sort of matters.
Yeah. Whereas in this, it kind of feels like it's floating in the sort of way that like float Fortnite's a little floaty.

Speaker 2 Where like it, like, I mean, there's like, uh, maybe not as much, but like, I feel like. The Smash Brothers?

Speaker 2 Maybe honestly, it's sort of closer to Smash Brothers, where like you're sort of jumping and it kind of feels like you weren't really even on the ground.

Speaker 1 Gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 2 It wasn't really for me, but I'm happy for people that like it or sorry that people, sorry that you don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's not my bag. So yeah, if you like it, great.
If you don't, sorry. People are pissed.
People are so mad. This next one's from Hellblazing Scourge.

Speaker 1 Hi, Hellblazing.

Speaker 2 What's up, Scourge? What video game setting do you think would be the best to go trick-or-treating in? Would you think about people?

Speaker 2 You got to think about people, the candy they would have, etc.

Speaker 2 So I kind of think the Stardew Valley world I was thinking Stardew Valley just like the vibes I mean they they do have the I forget the name of the the roughly equivalent uh holiday they have not the winter festival but um yeah

Speaker 2 but yeah there there is there is something like there is an event like that in Stardew Valley but yeah 100% that sort of that sort of wholesome

Speaker 2 small town sort of energy I'd like that a little bit kind of feels like you're gonna get either like safe homemade candy right

Speaker 2 or everyone's doing big ones Kind of feels like everyone's doing big ones in Stardew Valley.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, but then also just like someone will just give you like a whole bass or something or just like a can of beer. Here's a ruby I found.

Speaker 2 That's a good answer.

Speaker 1 I think World of Pokemon would be great to trick a treat in. Because also the Pokemon themselves are conscious enough that they would also be giving you candy, for example.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like if somebody's got a psy duck,

Speaker 1 it's going to have a little bag and it's going to be like, psych. And you're going to like get to take candy from the psy duck.
And also, Pokemon might dress up.

Speaker 2 That's true.

Speaker 1 So you get like a Pikachu that looks like a little lawyer or something.

Speaker 2 They're going to dress like a human job. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was thinking of like Pikachu dresses like Spider-Man.

Speaker 2 I got to pitch Grand Theft Auto 5.

Speaker 2 It's like our neighborhood.

Speaker 2 Pokemon would be good. A lick-a-tongue handing you a lollipop with its big tongue.
Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Come on, man.

Speaker 2 It's big lollipop, though. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 I like the, you have me with big lollipop, but just the other element, I don't know. Yeah, Pokemon could think of it.
I was like mini cap too, huh? All right.

Speaker 1 Kingdom Hearts would be a good trick-or-treat.

Speaker 2 Gummy. Yep.
Well, you go to Halloween Town. Yeah.
You can go, you can trick-or-treat at any time you want. There you go.
In Halloween Town. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Man, I wish there was something like trick-or-treating. I got to buy my own candy.
You mean as an adult? Yeah. Because that's something.

Speaker 2 You know, Halloween was at some point, and it's been interesting to watch Halloween kind of go global, which it didn't used to.

Speaker 2 But yeah, like, like there's, I think there's more Asian countries that celebrate Halloween these days. I don't know.
It's kind of wild.

Speaker 2 But anyway, it used to be like more of an a, more of a kids' holiday and then it became an adult holiday and now it's like dressing up in horny costumes or whatever the fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Which I don't mind. But they haven't had the trick-or-treating become an adult thing.

Speaker 2 Probably it's only a matter of time with all the infantilization of I thought about,

Speaker 1 you know, I don't have the money to be able to do it, but that it would be neat to have a treat for parents.

Speaker 1 That, you know, kids come to your door and you give them candy, but you have some adult treat that you hand out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, little airplane bottle size liquor. Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 Sure, that would get you. That's got to be a crime.

Speaker 2 Yeah, a little shot of fireball. Yeah.
Here's a clonopin.

Speaker 1 here's a loose i guess that's the problem is that like you can't give anything to adults yeah yeah

Speaker 2 little

Speaker 2 little back rub yeah little back rub

Speaker 2 here's some uh some paid time offs pto yeah uh man honestly i'd take it give me some uh this next one's from gator sax hi gator

Speaker 2 gator sax what's up

Speaker 2 Wait, is that a reference? I don't know if it means what you're meeting what you're saying, but just make me think of Gator Sachs. Like,

Speaker 2 what do you mean? Like a ball sack. Is that not what it is? It's S-A-X, actually.
Oh, I'm sorry. We're hearing it aloud.
I thought I was thinking it was like a Gator ball sack. I know that.

Speaker 2 Like, plural. I know you don't want to be mixing the lures too much, but I know you're pretty familiar with Gator Sacks.

Speaker 2 Heather doesn't need to know anymore. Gator sacks, like a saxophone.
I used to play the saxophone.

Speaker 2 They talk about getting tricked by alligators into sucking them off while we're on Doughboys, which is supposedly a better show than this.

Speaker 2 It is. It's a wonderful show.

Speaker 2 God bless you, buddy.

Speaker 2 Gator Sachs writes, with the Fallout and Five Nights at Freddy's, with Fallout and Five Nights at Freddy's both part of Halloween and Horror Nights this year, what other video games would you like to see turned into a haunted house and maze?

Speaker 2 I have an answer, and it might shock you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think Silent Hill 2 would be a fun maze.

Speaker 1 Yeah, an amazing maze.

Speaker 2 It is. Imagine you go, because

Speaker 2 some of these mazes are, a lot of them are in.

Speaker 2 And I guess there's a divide

Speaker 2 in

Speaker 2 the states

Speaker 2 whether they're called mazes or they're called like haunted houses. Like depending on where you are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, some people call them mazes. Some people call them

Speaker 2 in the U.S. Yeah.
There's some states where if you go to a haunted house, you're calling it a maze. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because I think of a maze as a maze. Yeah.

Speaker 2 well like i guess mazes are sort of like designed to trick you and not be able to get you out yeah these all have a path that you're sort of you're walking through a sort of like you're walking through something you're fundamentally i i get i guess i'm just thinking about my experience as a kid who would go into the public park and i guess it was not a physical haunted house it was more of a maze like structure that they'd like you know whatever constructed yeah so yeah i i i do understand I call them, I've always called it mazes.

Speaker 2 I wonder where that, what that divide is. That'll be interesting.
That's like that. I love seeing maps like that.
Right down the middle. It's really crazy.
Like where Carls Jr. turns into Hardys.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Wow.
It's the same divide.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 how jacked a dude would have to be in order to play Pyramid Head would be scary in and of itself.

Speaker 2 It'd be really crazy, but also, like, okay, so these are, these often take place in like some of the now

Speaker 2 defunct

Speaker 2 like studio

Speaker 2 buildings. Okay.
And some of them are in parking lots too. Those ones, I'm sort of thinking, could have different levels, not just on one floor.
Cool.

Speaker 2 So imagine you start on like a second level and you get to the room that has a cemetery in it and you have to go down. That's great.
That's fucking that sucks. That's so scary.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that is scary as fuck.

Speaker 2 You got to keep just going down. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 Pretty good. That'd be good.
Sounds like me, man.

Speaker 2 He's scared.

Speaker 1 He doesn't.

Speaker 1 God, it's the body he made. He wrote in DJ Paladin for

Speaker 1 You looked like a sprite.

Speaker 2 And not the drink. I know everybody was thinking the drink.
Yes, no. Not the drink.
No.

Speaker 2 Some sort of woodland creature. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Silent Hill 2 would make a good one. I'm trying to think of like other...

Speaker 2 A control maze would be cool. It's not necessarily a horror game.
It's got some scary stuff in it. I would just like to see the construction of the bureau because the

Speaker 2 vault construction for the follow-up maze I thought was like the coolest part of the

Speaker 2 thing, just to see what the inner workings of that looked like was just really good set design. You could do kind of anything like that, but

Speaker 2 I'd like to see, I'd like to see more video game stuff. Mikey Wombat Nintendogs.

Speaker 2 Just a bunch of little pups. Yeah, yeah.
But it's like, that's fucked up. And there's a big stylist coming in and trying to tap on.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Scratches your belly. It feels pretty good.

Speaker 2 Maybe scratches your butt a little bit.

Speaker 2 Mikey Wombat writes.

Speaker 1 Hi, Mikey.

Speaker 2 The Mikey Wombat. For the release of Resident Evil 7, Capcom sold blood-scented candles for a 4D experience.
What scented candle would you release to go with a game of your choice? Wow.

Speaker 2 I kind of want to smell like the bog water in Silk Song. Yeah, that's really interesting.
Just like some sort of mossy

Speaker 2 environment. I'm not a candle guy.
Is anyone else into candles? I am. What do you do candle-wise?

Speaker 2 Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday candle.

Speaker 2 That's fun.

Speaker 1 An unscented

Speaker 1 votive candle.

Speaker 2 Rosary, certainly.

Speaker 1 On a paper plate.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll do like a nice

Speaker 1 like usually like I'll buy like a one luxury candle a year and burn that very slowly over the course of the year and then get a little candle topper to lock the scent in.

Speaker 1 Also, there's a place here in Los Angeles Angeles called Cantrip Candles, which fucking rules. It is a Dungeons and Dragons candle store,

Speaker 1 not like an unlicensed.

Speaker 1 So you can go in and buy scents if you're a DM

Speaker 1 to evoke a room. So, like, you can burn a candle that smells like an old library.
You can burn a candle that smells like a forest glade. You can burn a candle that

Speaker 1 smells like a dungeon. Wow.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 kind of get like that 4D experience into

Speaker 1 your game. Can trip candles on Hollywood Boulevard.
Love it.

Speaker 2 I like candles enough. My wife's more into them than I am.

Speaker 2 But I don't think I'm like, I'm not averse. I just

Speaker 2 am not as into it. There's like a whole candle subculture.
I feel like I stumbled upon one time people reviewing three wick candles onto YouTube and was just fascinated that people

Speaker 2 had hours to say about, I mean, that's people listening to this too. People could talk about this forever.
Yeah. But like, it's just interesting.
Three-wick candles, some of these videos, hours long.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I buy it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 People love the shit out of candles. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What was the question? It was what?

Speaker 2 What would you, what scinted candle would you release to go with a game of your choice?

Speaker 2 A Kingdom Hearts candle would be pretty cool, I think. If you could somehow.
Salted ice cream. Oh my God, Heather.
Yes. That's great.

Speaker 1 It smells like salted ice cream.

Speaker 2 That's so good.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, I want. want, fuck, I want it.
I eat the candle.

Speaker 2 I think I maybe don't understand how like

Speaker 2 candles work. Like, it doesn't have to be

Speaker 2 like, like, light them. Like, yeah.
And then it burns down. Yeah.
No, I more meant like, like, when you're talking about a scented candle,

Speaker 2 do you mean something that smells like the totality? of the IP or whatever you want. Oh, okay.
So we have a little bit of leeway here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, like you could, if, if I wanted, say, I'm, you know, playing Ghost of Yotte right now, and I want, like, I'm like, oh, I'm in this bamboo forest area, and it would sure be nice to have the licensed official Ghost of Yote bamboo forest-scented candle that I can burn at this area, and it will smell like I'm in the game.

Speaker 1 Sure, that would be great. Um, that being said, what I want is Cooking Mama.

Speaker 2 Yeah. The candle.

Speaker 2 Cool.

Speaker 1 And I want it to smell like I am baking chocolate chip cookies while playing Cooking Mama.

Speaker 2 That rocks. I've been just been looking through my Steam library, which includes a lot of games that we got specifically for the podcast.
Just been browsing through this.

Speaker 2 And so my answer is I'll do a Leisure Suit Larry candle.

Speaker 1 Oh, God damn it.

Speaker 2 Smells like...

Speaker 2 You know what it smells like. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm not even going to say it. I was about to say something crazy.
I mean, one of the games, one of his games just has the word come in the title.

Speaker 2 That's That's not what I was going to say. I would have said that.

Speaker 2 This next one's from Crest Sphinx.

Speaker 2 We talked about it when we did the Laser Suit Larry episode, but my favorite detail, like one of my favorite details about that fucking game in the original build, and I think they updated it out of it.

Speaker 2 I mean, like, whatever,

Speaker 2 like, the original release on

Speaker 2 Floppy Disc back in the day.

Speaker 2 If Laser Suit Larry's, like, his goal is to get killed.

Speaker 2 So in the original release on Vlobitis back in the day, his goal is to

Speaker 2 have sex within a certain timeframe.

Speaker 2 And if he doesn't, and the time,

Speaker 2 the time limit lapses, there's a cutscene of Lisa Suit Larry killing himself.

Speaker 2 He's so horny that the idea of not having sex within like a 24-hour span caused him to eat a gun.

Speaker 2 Incredible. I mean, look, been there, brother.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 This next one's from Crest Sphinx. What's up, Crest Sphinx? And they write,

Speaker 2 I remember why I picked this because I have a story. Yeah.
Specifically for this

Speaker 2 prompt. Who would you not want to do improv in front of, fictional or real? I have a very specific story I wanted to bring up real quick.

Speaker 2 I one time was doing, I was doing, I did a children's improv show at the afternoon at a comedy club. Wow.
While Gallagher had a loud meeting in the same room.

Speaker 2 room, like he was talking with this show producer, I remember that I recognized from

Speaker 2 the club that I worked at. Yeah.
And they were having just like a meeting during this show for children. I think the calculation was, who cares? It's just a show for kids.
And we were doing bad.

Speaker 2 We were doing a bad job because the kids were not interested, didn't understand improv, didn't know what was going on or anything.

Speaker 2 But I just remember just doing a bad job with Gallagher in the back, just like talking. That's so funny.
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 2 I actually have a story about this too, and it is video game related. So there was a time, there used to be a UCB show called Cage Match where it would be like an improv.

Speaker 2 There probably still is, that still exists in some form. It's a very common improv thing.
It's where it's just like two improv teams will go up against each other and the audience will vote

Speaker 2 who did less bad.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 there would always be like a, there would be themed ones like on occasion.

Speaker 2 And so there was once a video game themed one, which Heather, I remember you did as Link in Link cosplay, and you were just emoting Link

Speaker 2 the whole time.

Speaker 2 But I had a Zane geef costume that I wrangled for that.

Speaker 2 And then my sketch group later did a show. I think I've told the story on the podcast before.
My sketch group later did a sketch group, A Kiss from Daddy later did a show

Speaker 2 where we did a whole Christmas review. And so it was like, we were all playing the same character for the entire show.

Speaker 2 And like, you know, Mookie Blake was playing Santa or whatever. And

Speaker 2 Alan McLeod Molasses Boy was playing an elf.

Speaker 2 Anyway,

Speaker 2 my bit that I did for that is that I was the guy who lived at the North Pole.

Speaker 2 Of course, the signature North Pole Santa's workshop character, Zane Geef. So I just wasn't, I was in Zane Geef cosplay the whole time.

Speaker 2 By

Speaker 2 coincidence, I didn't know this in advance.

Speaker 2 Christopher Guest was in the audience watching the show.

Speaker 2 Like a legit, like kind of like guy who could take an improviser and give them a

Speaker 2 life. Yeah, yeah, like an acre here.
And I'm just there committed to doing like my very fucking half-assed Russian accent and doing spin punches the whole time. That's a nightmare.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would not want to do an improv show at the Republican National Convention.

Speaker 1 I can think of no room more hostile

Speaker 1 or upset at my

Speaker 1 presence on stage. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be my least.

Speaker 2 That would be the room I wouldn't want to play.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 that's a great one.

Speaker 2 And finally, Res Dog Millionaire writes, as lovers of video game music, I'd like to ask, what's your audio setup when playing? Headphones, stereo setup, just raw dogging with your TV speakers?

Speaker 2 So I love this question. I have a sound bar that I like.

Speaker 2 I don't remember, I think it's just like a, it's not nothing, nothing fancy, it's just like a, it might be like a Samsung sound bar or something.

Speaker 2 Um,

Speaker 2 and I like it a lot, um, but sometimes I'll toss on headphones

Speaker 2 if I want to become more immersed. And for that, I have

Speaker 2 um, I have some AirPod Maxes that I really like that I'll plug into the controller or whatever. But I also have those,

Speaker 2 I have those dual sense

Speaker 2 earplugs, whatever they're called. I can't remember what they're called.

Speaker 2 Earbuds, but I like those quite a bit too, actually.

Speaker 2 It's always a matter of whether or not they're charged or not.

Speaker 2 But I sometimes prefer a wired sort of

Speaker 2 headphone plugged into the controller now for something like that. For like Ghost of Yote or something, it's so satisfying to

Speaker 2 hear close.

Speaker 1 What's frustrating me about playing the PlayStation 5 with headphones on is so often there are

Speaker 1 sound accents that come out of the controller, especially in Dos Quixote. Yeah.
Like crackling of fish when you're cooking a fish or the strum of your shama san when you're playing your instrument.

Speaker 1 That being said, I like to keep my gaming private so that I don't disturb the neighbors or my wife. Yeah.
And so I am often playing in the Pulse Elites for

Speaker 1 sound.

Speaker 1 When I'm not,

Speaker 1 I got a Sonos sound bar for some gig that I did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That is my sound setup. Typically, in the past, before I had a wife, I had a 5.1 system with the speakers all the way around the house.
Oh, nice. But, you know, I gave up

Speaker 1 a lot of that sort of...

Speaker 1 audio enthusiast stuff in part because it's not very aesthetic and part because it

Speaker 1 it is not very often that we listen to something that loud. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 1 so yeah, that's my setup. Wager, what about you?

Speaker 2 Okay, so I was just looking it up and it's not a particularly exciting answer, but I just wanted to look up my PC speakers. Yeah, it's a classic gramophone, hand-turned.

Speaker 2 No, I have G560 Logitech gaming speakers. They're 2.1 gaming speakers, so they've just got a subwoofer and

Speaker 2 a couple of satellites. And they're good.
They're quality speakers.

Speaker 2 And they're good for PC gaming. They put out enough.

Speaker 2 I didn't want to do a full surround setup. And I tried a sound bar actually before for PC.
And for whatever reason, I just wasn't loving the, you know,

Speaker 2 I think it may just be just based on where I was sitting. It was just almost like

Speaker 2 the way the

Speaker 2 stereo separation was working wasn't quite clicking for me. You were like that guy in the chair getting knocked back by the soundbar.

Speaker 2 So that's what I'm rocking right now.

Speaker 2 And I usually do that. I do have some, if I'm playing with headphones, I just have some Sony headphones that I use for podcasting, but I'll just toss them bad boys on if I'm playing on the PC.

Speaker 2 If I'm playing on the

Speaker 2 my PS5 or my Switch 2,

Speaker 2 I just have a Samsung soundbar with Subwoofer that I use. And I'm generally playing that.
But then, on the, you know, if I'm if I'm playing a

Speaker 2 PlayStation game, very often I'm also using those pulse that same headset because it's just a really good headset. And, you know, you live with other people, you live in an apartment.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Other people. I called my wife other people.

Speaker 2 You live with, you live with a partner or you live with roommates, whoever you live with.

Speaker 2 It's, it's like, it's, you just sometimes want to be courteous, especially of like repetitive sounds like sword slashes and gunshots or you losing to the same Dark Souls boss 30 times in a row.

Speaker 2 Isabelle hates how Silk Song sounds because I'm dying to the same things over and over.

Speaker 2 It sucks. I do have to go back and say something.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I've seen you at Jersey Mike's. You're a bit of a subwoofer.
Pretty good. I liked it.

Speaker 1 And it's true.

Speaker 1 I can't argue with that.

Speaker 1 I saw that occur to Matt. And him being delighted that it was happening in his own head.
And it makes me happy that he shared it with all of us

Speaker 2 i had a sub this week and it was heavenly what what what what would you get regular i got a mini italian i only get minis yeah i'm never going above the the mini's enough yeah i'm not trying to eat a whole ass sandwich the mini might be sufficient minis good the italian

Speaker 2 i get a regular and i sometimes find myself eating just half yeah but here's the thing the the half sandwich we get at mike's way it's getting a little little soppy It's getting a little too moist in the fridge.

Speaker 2 So yeah, you don't necessarily want that. It's not necessarily the best outcome.

Speaker 2 I'm a bit of a sub-woofer too, I guess. I'm woofing them down.

Speaker 2 Oh, and I'll like, if I just have like a switch two or my switch

Speaker 2 on a plane or something like that, I'm just using AirPods Maxes. Yeah, yeah.
Because they just, y'all just,

Speaker 2 I have them winning anyway, and I'm trying to travel not particularly heavy. Yeah, I can't imagine carrying more stuff.
Right.

Speaker 2 Every time I have to, every time I get a new, you know, a switch or something, like, oh, great, I got to get a new case for this, and that's adding space to the bag and stuff. And it's,

Speaker 2 you know. I like the

Speaker 1 AirPods Pro for

Speaker 1 Switch and for travel.

Speaker 2 Yeah, sure. It feels nice.
Yeah. Get locked in.

Speaker 1 Wait a minute. No, I mean the little inserts.

Speaker 2 Oh, the inserts. Okay, yeah.
The sound-canceling pros, pro twos, pro threes? Yeah. Yeah, those are the earbuds that are sound-canceling.
Okay, cool. I like them.
Nice.

Speaker 2 And that's the question block, and that's this week's Get Played. Our producer is Rochelle Chen.
Ranch Yard underscore underscore sard. Our music is by Ben Prunty, BenPruntyMusic.com.

Speaker 2 Our art is by DuckBrigade Design. DuckBrigade.com.
Ranch, what are you streaming? Silent Hill F. Okay, awesome.
Check that out over at twitch.tv/slash yard underscore underscore sard.

Speaker 2 Get played merch at kinshipgoods.com and check out Get Animate, our sister show on Patreon. Matt, what are we watching this week? We're watching the Chainsaw Man movie.

Speaker 2 In the name of it, I always forget.

Speaker 1 The Rez Arc.

Speaker 2 The Res Ark.

Speaker 2 And it's very topical, of course, because it's in theaters now.

Speaker 2 So you can go watch it in the movie theater. But we'll be talking about it this week on the show.
And I'm excited. I can't wait to talk about it.
It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 Patreon.com/slash get played, and you out there

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Speaker 2 you

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