Dozens killed in Hong Kong fire

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Speaker 4 This is the global news podcast from the BBC World Service.

Speaker 4 I'm Janet Jalil and in the early hours of Thursday the 27th of November these are our main stories.

Speaker 4 A massive fire that has engulfed a complex of high-rise buildings in Hong Kong has killed dozens of people and left hundreds missing. Two U.S.

Speaker 4 National Guard troops have been critically wounded blocks away from the White House in what officials say was a targeted shooting.

Speaker 4 Nigeria declares a nationwide state of emergency after a series of mass abductions.

Speaker 4 Also in this podcast, a special report from Lebanon on the anniversary of Israel's ceasefire with Hezbollah.

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Speaker 4 As we record this podcast, firefighters in Hong Kong have been battling for nearly 24 hours to contain a massive fire that spread through a high-rise apartment complex.

Speaker 4 At least 44 people are known to to have been killed, dozens more are critically injured, and hundreds are missing.

Speaker 4 Flames could be seen on every story of the massive tower blocks as huge clouds of black smoke billowed above. These residents of Wang Fuk Court spoke to the BBC.

Speaker 8 Around quarter to three in the afternoon, I suddenly heard a very loud noise. I looked outside and saw that in the distance over by block five there was a fire.

Speaker 8 I left and I've been downstairs until now. It's already been more than three hours.

Speaker 10 I'm devastated. I don't know what's going on anymore.

Speaker 10 One neighbour said he still could not find his wife. I know some are still inside the building.
Why is there no one saving them?

Speaker 10 I know someone who has young children and elderly members of their family. I called him and he said he was still trapped inside the building.

Speaker 4 Temporary shelters have been set up for the hundreds of people made homeless, and as they wait to find out what has happened to those feared to still be trapped inside the burning and smoldering buildings, local media has been showing footage of the late-night rescues of a baby and an elderly woman.

Speaker 4 The chief executive of Hong Kong, John Lee, insisted the authorities are doing all they can.

Speaker 12 I take this incident with the utmost seriousness. We have deployed 140 fire engines and more than 60 ambulances.

Speaker 12 Over 800 firefighters and rescue personnel have been mobilized, and drones are being used. We will use all necessary resources and manpower to extinguish this fire.

Speaker 4 Firefighters are slowly bringing the fires in some of the buildings under control, but conditions are still dangerous.

Speaker 4 Police say they've arrested three construction company executives on suspicion of manslaughter. I got this update from our correspondent at the scene, Danny Vincent.

Speaker 13 I'm looking up at the burning towers, towers, and there are large plumes of smoke just still pushing up into the air. There are one, two, three, four

Speaker 13 streams of water from fire engines just spraying constantly at the buildings. I can still see a number of apartments on fire.
I can literally see the flames

Speaker 13 in quite a few apartments. It's a big contrast to last night when I was on the scene, where the entire building was entire buildings were just completely engulfed in flames for hours.

Speaker 13 Today you can see that there's there's few flames but they're still there. It's worth noting that some of these flames have been burning for almost 24 hours now.

Speaker 13 Around me there are a group of people just looking silently, sending text messages, taking photographs. Some are live streaming.
They all seem to be very shocked about

Speaker 13 what's happened. This is a large residential building.
There are thought to be be around 2,000 people living there. We know that close to a thousand people stayed in shelters last night.

Speaker 13 I know from last night, people I spoke to at the scene, people were fearful that

Speaker 13 their loved ones, their relatives, their neighbours were sadly trapped in the building. We know there are hundreds of people unaccounted for, and there are fears that those people may be

Speaker 13 may have been in the building and were unable to escape.

Speaker 4 And some people are blaming construction work that was going on as a cause of this and we now know that three construction company executives have been arrested.

Speaker 13 That's right. I mean an investigation is underway into the cause of this fire.
It's been said, it's been reported to the authorities, or should I say the authorities have said that this fire

Speaker 13 escalated at an unusually rapid pace. Now we know there have been arrests relating to executives of a construction company.
Those arrests are under the suspicion of manslaughter.

Speaker 13 Now, as I'm looking up at this building, I can see a type of green mesh

Speaker 13 that's on top of and covering many of the buildings.

Speaker 13 There have been reports that this particular residential area was actually facing renovation for more than a year.

Speaker 13 Local media have reported that bamboo scaffolding and this green mesh has been surrounding the building, and an investigation is now underway to finding out how

Speaker 13 this large fire was started.

Speaker 4 Danny Vincent in Hong Kong.

Speaker 4 When they were deployed to Washington, D.C., earlier this year by President Trump, National Guard troops were supposed to make the city safer as part of what he called a crackdown on crime.

Speaker 4 Instead, two members of the National Guard are now fighting for their lives after being shot and critically wounded close to the White House by what police say was a lone suspect.

Speaker 4 The attack on the eve of the Thanksgiving holiday caused panic.

Speaker 3 I heard gunfire.

Speaker 14 We started to run and then there was another round of gunfire. There was just one police guard there and they were yelling at somebody to stay down.

Speaker 14 We noticed that there were two National Guards down and one they were trying to resuscitate.

Speaker 4 Officials said the suspected attacker was also shot and is now in custody. President Trump said he was an Afghan national and described the incident as an act of terror.

Speaker 15 This heinous assault was an act of evil and act of hatred and an act of terror. It was a crime against our entire nation.
It was a crime against humanity.

Speaker 4 The U.S. has now stopped processing all immigration requests from Afghan nationals indefinitely.
Mr.

Speaker 4 Trump also said that he'd ordered 500 more National Guard troops to Washington in addition to the hundreds already deployed there.

Speaker 4 But former FBI Special Agent Catherine Schweitz said putting extra resources in the nation's capital could have unintended consequences.

Speaker 16 There are 20-some law enforcement agencies already existing there, stepping on top of each other all the time, and in a good way.

Speaker 16 So adding 500 more National Guard to an area that's already filled with law enforcement, in my opinion, is potentially adding 500 more targets.

Speaker 16 Now, as we know, that in the past 15 years, law enforcement and first responders have become more of a target.

Speaker 4 Well, Alan Etter is a reporter in Washington with the radio station WTOP. He was at the scene.

Speaker 18 This all happened around just after two o'clock local time in the afternoon in broad daylight.

Speaker 18 It was quite shocking. People were milling about, going to the stores, going to the businesses around the area there.
This is quite heavily populated with commercial properties. And

Speaker 18 this individual apparently targeted these two National Guard members and according to witnesses, literally like walked up to them and shot them.

Speaker 18 Now, when they went down, they had three other colleagues who were nearby, according to police, who then responded and then shot that individual. The suspect who was also shot

Speaker 18 is in serious condition. but without life-threatening injuries.

Speaker 18 What law enforcement has been telling us and other news outlets across the country is the person has been identified as a 29-year-old Afghan immigrant, Rachmanola Lakhanwal.

Speaker 18 And he's been here since September of 2021. So, I mean, of course, all this is still under investigation, and we don't have any identifications yet on the individuals who were shot.

Speaker 18 Since August of this year, the National Guard, Federal Police have been deployed to cities, including Washington, D.C., across the country.

Speaker 17 And however, people here feel about that.

Speaker 18 I mean, it has resulted in a lessening of crime. But of course, this is going to renew the debate on immigration.

Speaker 18 Of course, the Trump administration has been quite hardline on immigration here since the campaign.

Speaker 4 Reporter Alan Etter.

Speaker 4 A year ago today, a ceasefire ended the war between Israel and the Lebanese militia, Hezbollah. but Israel has continued to attack targets it says are linked to the group.

Speaker 4 Lebanon says more than 330 people, including civilians, have been killed by Israeli strikes across the country since the ceasefire came into effect.

Speaker 4 Our correspondent Hugo Besheger has been to some of the hardest hit areas in southern Lebanon near the border with Israel to see for himself how residents there are living under the constant fear of Israeli airstrikes.

Speaker 4 To travel there, our team had to inform Hezbollah, but the group didn't interfere with their reporting.

Speaker 19 Southern Lebanon is the heartland of Hezbollah, but they're not safe here. They remain a target for Israel, despite a ceasefire.

Speaker 19 In the village of Frun, a car has been hit. This airstrike happened about an hour ago, possibly another targeted assassination.
And attacks like this happen almost every day across this country.

Speaker 19 Israel says it is targeting Hezbollah's efforts to rebuild its capabilities.

Speaker 12 But the constant bombing means no one is feeling safe.

Speaker 19 The village of Beit Liv is on alert. Israel has accused Hezbollah of using dozens of places here for military purposes and has threatened to take action.

Speaker 19 Isad Hamoud is the local mayor.

Speaker 3 No, no, no.

Speaker 21 There are no militants and no weapons here, and I can be held responsible for what I'm saying.

Speaker 19 One of the locations that appeared to be suspicious was a house across the street.

Speaker 19 Is Hezbollah using this building for military purposes?

Speaker 21 You are the BBC, you have cameras, you are journalists, and the owner is here.

Speaker 19 Haider insisted on taking us to his family house.

Speaker 19 Outside, Obana remembered his brother, a Hezbollah fighter, killed in the war. It's difficult for us to confirm what could be happening here.
He wanted to prove that there was nothing wrong.

Speaker 19 People seemed desperate for any protection, such as the fear of becoming an Israeli target.

Speaker 14 We want stability, we don't want war or anything related to it. We are done.
We are done with this matter.

Speaker 19 Thank you.

Speaker 19 Just months ago, it would have been almost impossible to have this kind of conversation with residents without organizing interviews through Hezbollah or being approached by Hezbollah minders.

Speaker 19 It is perhaps an indication of the new reality here in the south.

Speaker 19 Hezbollah was battered in the war. The Lebanese military is now in places once dominated by the group.
But Hezbollah insists it will not disarm a standoff that has gripped this country.

Speaker 19 That grey concrete wall separates Lebanon from Israel. And those hills in the distance are inside Israeli territory.

Speaker 19 Now many villages on the Lebanese side of the border have been completely destroyed.

Speaker 19 This is now a buffer zone between the countries.

Speaker 19 In a deserted village called Yarun, we meet Nayev, one of its last residents. At all times, we hear an Israeli drone circling overhead.

Speaker 9 We've got every reason to be afraid, because as you can see, no one else is here.

Speaker 9 We will leave in a bit and we'll be left alone.

Speaker 19 There is a Hezbollah flag right next to your house. Do you think the Hezbollah must disarm?

Speaker 9 I find it hard that they will give it up.

Speaker 9 That one also wants to live. This is no life.

Speaker 19 Hezbollah remains defiant, but some supporters are getting tired. The group is trying to survive.
and a battle for its future may be emerging within.

Speaker 4 That report by Hugo Besheka.

Speaker 4 This year's Miss Universe Beauty pageant has been mired in a series of controversies, including an official publicly berating Miss Mexico before later having to apologize.

Speaker 4 And now, just days after the contest in Thailand ended, with Miss Mexico being crowned as a surprise winner, it's been hit by a fresh scandal.

Speaker 4 The Mexican co-owner of the contest has been accused of drugs and arms trafficking, and his Thai counterpart has been accused of fraud. Mimi Swebe has the details.

Speaker 25 The majority owner of the Miss Universe Corporation, Rao Rocha Cantu, is accused of supplying weapons to drug trafficking cartels across Mexico, including the Gulf Cartel, as well as stealing and distributing fuel from Guatemala.

Speaker 25 He faces multiple charges tied to what investigators have described as a complex multinational criminal network allegedly operating for years under the guise of legitimate business structures. Mr.

Speaker 25 Rocha Cantu entered a witness corporation arrangement shortly after the warrant for his arrest was issued, signalling the potential of reduced penalties in exchange for testimony implicating other participants.

Speaker 25 It comes as another co-owner is reported to have been the subject of an arrest warrant issued by a Thai court over alleged fraud. It's been a troubling year for the Miss Universe contest.

Speaker 25 Chaos long reigned over the competition before Miss Mexico was crowned the victor. Judges resigned and there were allegations of vote rigging.

Speaker 25 Mexico's contestant, Fatima Bosch, made headlines by walking out of an event after being publicly criticised by the organizer.

Speaker 4 Mimi Swebe.

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Speaker 26 It really affects all components of the ecosystem, from plankton to fish and marine mammals.

Speaker 4 There are calls to turn down the volume.

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Speaker 4 Following a recent series of mass abductions in Africa's most populous nation, the Nigerian president has declared a nationwide security emergency.

Speaker 4 One of the kidnappings in northern Nigeria last week saw more than 300 children taken from a Catholic school.

Speaker 4 This comes at a time when President Trump has alleged that Christians in Nigeria are being targeted, an allegation strongly refuted by the government who say Islamist extremists like Boko Haram target Muslims, Christians and those of no faith alike.

Speaker 4 From Abuja, here's our Africa correspondent Mayenni Jones.

Speaker 22 With this new state of emergency, it constitutes one of the strongest sets of security policies that President Bola Metinubou has implemented since the resurgence of this wave of mass kidnappings in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 22 Among some of the decisions that he wants to implement, he wants 50,000 additional police officers recruited to help tackle the security crisis.

Speaker 22 He also wants to deploy forest guards to wooded areas around the country.

Speaker 22 Now, that's because a lot of the armed gangs that have traditionally kidnapped people in rural areas tend to keep them in forests until a ransom is paid.

Speaker 22 So he says he doesn't want those guys to have anywhere to hide.

Speaker 22 Other policies he's implemented is he wants police officers who used to look after VIPs to receive crash training on how to deal with high-risk areas.

Speaker 22 And he's also controversially recommended that local authorities avoid building schools in areas that are too remote.

Speaker 22 Now, northern Nigeria is a part of the country that already has devastatingly low levels of access to education.

Speaker 22 And many could argue that this policy would make it even harder for some of the poorest children in the country to get access to school.

Speaker 22 And Bola Ametinubu introducing these policies at a time when he's coming under intense criticism from rights groups, from the US,

Speaker 22 and from the Catholic Church for failing to get a handle handle on a security crisis that has been many years in the making.

Speaker 22 The Bring Back Our Girls activist group, who drew attention to the kidnapping of over 200 schoolgirls in 2014, said that these recent kidnappings are not isolated incidents, they're part of a wider pattern, and that the government, after 11 years, should have found a new, more permanent solution for this.

Speaker 22 The President will be hoping that this new state of emergency will be that solution.

Speaker 4 Mayani Jones in Nigeria.

Speaker 4 Moving further west, the small nation of Guinea-Bissau on Africa's coast has seen numerous coups and attempted coups since independence, and now in a scene that has become all too familiar across West Africa.

Speaker 4 Gunfire was heard near the presidential palace on Wednesday, and a military spokesman appeared on state television to announce that the army had taken control and the president, Umaru Sisoko Mbalo, had been arrested to quote protect national integrity.

Speaker 20 The Military High Command for the restoration of national security and public order has just taken control of the powers of state of the Republic of Guinea-Bissau.

Speaker 20 The Military High Command is reacting to the discovery of a plan for the destabilization of our country.

Speaker 4 This comes three days after a hotly contested presidential election in which the main opposition candidate was barred from standing, and a day before the results of that vote were due to be released.

Speaker 4 Our correspondent, Michigan Kugoy, is monitoring the situation from Nairobi.

Speaker 24 We have military officers who have mounted checkpoints across the city, and residents have actually expressed fear even of just stepping outside.

Speaker 24 The main opposition party candidate was disqualified, and it seems like there has been loyalty within the security forces of people who perhaps sympathized with his cause.

Speaker 24 And this could have contributed now to the situation that we are currently witnessing.

Speaker 24 So, the fact that actually he was excluded from participating in the election process, then it seems like there are divisions even within the security forces itself.

Speaker 24 Because what we have not been able actually to verify so far is that also some senior military officials we are hearing that they have also actually been detained by the faction that has taken full control of the country.

Speaker 24 In the past, say, maybe five years, there have been attempted coups, even as President Sisoko has been in power sometime in 2020, and most recently in December 2023.

Speaker 24 Yeah, so it's a country that has had struggles in just ensuring political stability. It's a bit unpredictable.

Speaker 24 In fact, just one of our correspondents mentioned to us that a resident, when they heard of gunshots near the presidential palace, said he was not actually surprised because this is something that they have increasingly gotten used to.

Speaker 24 So that's really the challenge that this country, a very small coastal nation between Guinea and Gambia and Senegal, has been experiencing for the past nearly four decades.

Speaker 4 Richard Kagoy.

Speaker 4 There are growing calls for our oceans to be quieter. From the Arctic to the Great Barrier Reef, scientists have documented how excessive noise is damaging the fragile ecosystem.

Speaker 4 And at an assembly of the UN's International Maritime Organisation here in London, experts have pushed for a new focus on the design and operation of ships.

Speaker 4 Lindy Wildgart is a marine biologist based on the Nova Scotia coast of Canada. She explained the impact of underwater noise to Julian Warwicker.

Speaker 26 It is a very pervasive problem because sound travels so far and so fast underwater, so it has a huge potential area of impact.

Speaker 26 And it really affects all components of the ecosystem, from plankton to fish and marine mammals. There's just general stress.
There's a reduction in food finding. Animals can't hear their prey.

Speaker 26 They can't stay in contact with their group members or their offspring. With every decibel of noise increase, the communication space just shrinks.

Speaker 26 A lot of these whale species, like fin whales and blue whales, are solitary animals, and the only way they can find mates is through sound.

Speaker 26 So, you know, that that has huge implications to the health of their populations, obviously.

Speaker 27 And this is noise, what, from ships, engines, propellers, most obviously?

Speaker 26 Yeah, shipping is a big one, commercial shipping, even recreational boating.

Speaker 26 Then there's also seismic air guns that are used to find oil and gas deposits underwater. And then there's like pile driving for wind farms and other construction.
And then things like naval sonar.

Speaker 27 So as you highlight those various examples, I mean, can you point to ways in which each one of those could go about their business more quietly?

Speaker 26 Shipping is one of the easiest ones because that is unintentional sound.

Speaker 26 And generally what makes ships quieter also makes them more efficient, fewer emissions of greenhouse gases and so on.

Speaker 26 First of all, slowing down is the biggest solution, but then there's also technological modifications.

Speaker 26 I would say the seismic air gun industry is the worst at recognizing and being willing to make changes.

Speaker 26 The shipping industry is more open. The pile driving industry is particularly open for wind farms, I would say,

Speaker 26 and the Navy is in between.

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Speaker 4 It's been a remarkable turnaround.

Speaker 4 In a short space of time, one of the biggest record labels in the world, Warner Music Group, has gone from suing the makers of AI music software Suno over copyright to ending the legal battle and announcing a partnership instead.

Speaker 4 The label says it will let the AI music platform use the names, voices and likenesses of its artists as long as they consent.

Speaker 4 So what does this mean for human musicians and songwriters? Our reporter, Will Chalk, has been finding out.

Speaker 28 It's tech that even a few years ago to most of us was unimaginable.

Speaker 28 You log on, ask it to write a song in whatever style you like, say Ed Sheeran-esque pop, and it will pump out an infinite number of fully formed, completely original compositions.

Speaker 28 Like any AI model, Suno's technology is trained on what's already out there, and as it stands, the artists whose songs it learns from get nothing whatsoever in return.

Speaker 28 It was this problem that a year ago led Warner Music Group to start legal action against Suno, describing the tech as wholesale theft and something that threatened the very ecosystem of music.

Speaker 28 They weren't alone. Billie Eilish, Nikki Minaj and Katie Perry were among more than 200 artists who signed an open letter calling for the predatory use of AI to stop.

Speaker 28 So how did we get from that to Warner Bros. announcing a first-of-a-kind partnership with the very company it had previously threatened?

Speaker 28 Well, firstly, it looks like there have been some attempts to address the potential issues. One of the big fears is that AI-generated music, because it's infinite in nature, will flood the market.

Speaker 28 Suno says from next year, it will make people pay to download the songs they make and give them a monthly limit, too.

Speaker 28 Warner, for its part, says it will not only compensate artists, but also give them the option to opt out completely. But is there also a cultural shift going on within the industry?

Speaker 28 Jamie Rodigan is a Grammy-nominated producer and songwriter and one half of Duo Crate Classics. He told me, as long as artists are compensated, he doesn't see a problem with Suno.

Speaker 29 I enjoy using AI in the creative process.

Speaker 29 If I start writing a piece of music and need an idea, or maybe some harmonies, I may upload a track to AI and AI throws me back some different variations or different examples of how the track could develop.

Speaker 28 Jamie's background is electronic music, so you could argue it makes sense that he would be on board. But John McClure is part of indie band Reverend and the Makers.

Speaker 28 His music is rooted in guitars, grit, and being genuine. I honestly expected he would have the opposite opinion to Jamie, but I was wrong.

Speaker 6 I have a piece of music which is 17 minutes long.

Speaker 6 A lot of the time when I send this piece of music to people, they're like, that's the best thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 6 And then when I tell them it's AI or I used AI in some way to help it come along, they suddenly hate it then.

Speaker 6 And I'm like, has it actually fundamentally changed the piece of art, the thing that you were listening to?

Speaker 5 It's not that big a deal.

Speaker 28 There are still countless musicians with very real worries about AI, but John and Jamie seem to show that this isn't as simple as a good versus evil battle, and there are artists out there more than happy to make music alongside a machine.

Speaker 4 We'll talk.

Speaker 4 And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News podcast later. If you want to comment on this podcast, you can send us an email.

Speaker 4 The address is globalpodcast at bbc.co.uk. This edition was mixed by Rosenwyn Dorel and the producer was Arian Cochi.
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