Kathryn Hahn
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Hi, everyone. This is Amy Poehler.
Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. I'm very, very excited to
Speaker 1 introduce my next guest, the great Catherine Hahn.
Speaker 1 What can I say about Catherine? She's a legend. She's so talented, funny, smart.
Speaker 1 She can do it all. And
Speaker 1
people love working with her. And I loved working with her.
And today we talked about
Speaker 1 what is her relationship to work, what is her process, how important is it for her to feel connected to the stuff that she does, how is she dealing with this new version of fame and popularity, and how is it changing her life?
Speaker 1 And also, how important female friendships are and how you really haven't met everyone you're supposed to meet, even at my age of 53. So,
Speaker 1
I'm really excited for you to hear what Catherine and I talked about today. It was a really good hang.
It always is with her.
Speaker 1 So check it out. But before we start, guess who we have as a special guest today?
Speaker 1 Talking about Catherine Hahn and hanging in the studio. Oh, only Patty Lapone.
Speaker 1 If her Zoom ever works.
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Speaker 1 Patty, are you there?
Speaker 1 Have you joined us? She's not. She's not there.
Speaker 1
She's still not there. Okay, just so just to give you guys an update, Patty just checked in and said, got it.
I'll have to be on my phone. Okay.
Speaker 1 Putting on slap now.
Speaker 1 I don't know what that means. I'm going to say, okay.
Speaker 2 Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 Okay.
Speaker 1
Thanks so much. Okay.
This is fun. So I don't know what putting on slap means.
It either means she's slapping on makeup or that's some kind of Broadway term. There you are.
Speaker 1 Wait, is that a term putting slap on?
Speaker 3 Yeah, slap is an expression for makeup. Yeah, putting slap on.
Speaker 1 I love you, Daddy.
Speaker 3 I love you too, darling. Let me just put a little more slap on.
Speaker 1 So what are you doing these days?
Speaker 2 Are you?
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 1 Are you, do you have a show tonight?
Speaker 3 No, I have a show on Monday, but what I have tonight is an opera.
Speaker 1 You're attending it or you're singing it.
Speaker 3
No, I'm attending it. My friend is taking me.
Let me just get the eyeshadow on, darling. Who can talk when you're putting eyeshadow on? But I'll try.
Speaker 3 My friend that wrote it is here because it just premiered. And we're going to the senior citizen special.
Speaker 3 That's what he's calling it. Dinner at 5:30.
Speaker 3 The opera starts at 7 and it's three hours long and so we're going to go and have dinner at the met
Speaker 3 and which is very exciting it's very you know you feel like you're in i don't know another dimension when you go into the metropolitan opera house but it's pretty incredible just to watch the people that show up and how they're dressed and how they act daryl i'm ready for you oh you look fantastic
Speaker 3 I look hideous, but thank you.
Speaker 3 But let's talk about Catherine.
Speaker 1 Okay, let's talk about Catherine. So today's episode, we're talking to Catherine.
Speaker 1 We're doing this fun thing where we're kind of talking behind people's backs before they come in, just to kind of hear more perspective about them and what
Speaker 1 you think I should ask her or, you know, what you'd be interested in hearing her talk about. And tell me how, like, you, how you met and
Speaker 1 your relationship with her.
Speaker 3 Well, we met on Agatha
Speaker 3 at the Table Reads, basically.
Speaker 3 Catherine, because she was the leading lady, was incredibly generous and incredibly open and incredibly inclusive and embraced, I think, the responsibility of a leading lady.
Speaker 3 And that's, you know, that comes without fear, basically.
Speaker 3 And she was fearless and generous.
Speaker 3 One of my favorite things about her is she snorts when she laughs.
Speaker 3 So you know she's having a good time.
Speaker 1 She's a big laugher. She's a big laugher.
Speaker 3 But when you get the snort,
Speaker 3 something was really funny.
Speaker 3 And that's, you know, one of her best qualities. Her snort.
Speaker 1 She is a real mix of
Speaker 1 a very poised and serious dramatic actor and deeply goofy.
Speaker 3 Yeah, very,
Speaker 3 very funny.
Speaker 3 And doesn't take it seriously, which is great. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1
I'm going to ask her about this, but I want to ask you too. I mean, the response has been huge for Agatha.
It's everywhere. It's viral TikToks.
It's people waiting for you at the airport.
Speaker 1 Like the way you get this giant,
Speaker 1 huge new group of people who know you and know your work. What has that been like?
Speaker 3 I don't have the kind of response that Catherine has gotten. I mean,
Speaker 3 I know that it's so
Speaker 3 weird because because I do so many different things,
Speaker 3 some people know that I sing and do Broadway musicals and some people know me from Stevens Universe and some people know me from Life Goes On and some people know me from Agatha, for Agatha.
Speaker 3 And the ones I've been getting more, more fan mail about Agatha,
Speaker 3 which is great because
Speaker 3 who would think that I would end up in the Marvel universe,
Speaker 1 knowing nothing about it and choose to remain that way knowing nothing about it any ideas of what i could ask catherine today like any questions
Speaker 3 asked her if she's ever thought about directing
Speaker 3 and would she cast me
Speaker 3 i'm just curious to know whether she would want to direct and of course i i need to get hired
Speaker 3
and i think she you know she would be a riot behind the camera. I think, you know, they'd have to take take after take.
If it was funny and she snorted, I think she'd be a great director.
Speaker 3 I think she would be a great director.
Speaker 1
Agree. All right.
Love you, Patty. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 My pleasure. Talk to you soon.
Speaker 2
Bye. Okay.
Bye.
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Speaker 2 Woo-hoo-hoo!
Speaker 2 Everyone, this is Catherine. Hi, everyone.
Speaker 2 Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1
Catherine, I love you so much. Thank you for being on Good Hang.
I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 2 I love you.
Speaker 1
You know, I've only done a few episodes so far. This is very new.
And I got a note recently from the great Bill Simmons, who is kind of like,
Speaker 1 I guess my boss.
Speaker 1 But
Speaker 1 he is
Speaker 1 so good at podcasting and has created an empire and
Speaker 1
has allowed me to come do it. And he said, lose the ringer.
And he said, lose the laptop.
Speaker 2 Why? Oh, just so it's like more conversational?
Speaker 1
I guess. Why do you feel? I just, before I do, I just want to audition it one more time.
How do you feel about it?
Speaker 2
Listen, I think that that's fine for him if he doesn't need one. But if you need one, screw it.
This is your podcast.
Speaker 1 Well, I want to say to you and Bill that I like to look things up on here. It does take me a long time.
Speaker 2 No, you're fact checking as it's going on. I think that's good.
Speaker 1 Well, I kind of was joking that I had it to just make it seem like I was fact checking, but I'm have you ever used it?
Speaker 2
Yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
If it's just there for evidence, maybe you could tell me what if you was just watching.
Speaker 1 While I'm talking to you, I just have to catch up on the pit.
Speaker 2 Wait, is that
Speaker 2
the medical procedural? Okay, great. With a guy who's already been on a medical procedural.
Okay, great. That's supposed to be great.
Speaker 1 It's so good.
Speaker 2
Okay, I got to get into it. I want to talk about it.
Okay, good. Just kidding.
Okay. Well, I just want to talk about Doctor Nice.
Speaker 1
Dr. Carter, aka Noah Wiley, is now in a new show, which is nothing like ER, but I'm a huge ER fan.
But the pit is so pit.
Speaker 1 So because Bill told me to get rid of the laptop, I'm going to put it in half masked.
Speaker 2 Good.
Speaker 2 And then if I need it,
Speaker 1 I do feel like I want to watch something with you today. Yes, keep it there.
Speaker 2
Okay. Yeah.
Half mast.
Speaker 2 Okay. Don't close it.
Speaker 1 But I, but Bill, I hear you. And I appreciate the the, because it looks like a lot of people.
Speaker 2 I love Bill Simmons.
Speaker 1
Love. And I have to say, I'm still trying to figure out the process of this.
So I so appreciate you coming in mid-process.
Speaker 2
I'm so happy. I love mid-process.
You do. I do.
I do, because it's still figuring itself out. So I like it.
I don't like, it's better. It's more interesting than a well-oiled machine.
Ooh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Tell me more about that because you're so, you do. I love that about you is you love the
Speaker 1 messy middle of stuff.
Speaker 2 I do because it's like a, there is like a little on your toes
Speaker 2 feeling of, of, of growth that's happening while you're in it. And that always feels like super chargy to me.
Speaker 2 If it's like, I don't know, it's more like sometimes it's good and like, you know, that you're going to hit this, this, and this, but I, I love conversations.
Speaker 2 And I think, and I know you do too, that are like a little not so prescribed at the beginning.
Speaker 1 You're so good at them.
Speaker 1 You're really, really good at
Speaker 1 hanging in.
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's what makes you such a good person and friend, but, and also such a good actor is you, you can like tolerate the in-between, which few, I don't know if I can, I'm learning.
I'm learning.
Speaker 2
Yes. It is uncomfortable sometimes sometimes, depending on what it really is, but just to sit in it.
and let it like I'm not talking about a podcast, but like life or like schmackting.
Speaker 2 yeah it's definitely like that in that kind of like uncomfortableness I think is
Speaker 1 like like the time that you're gonna be surprised did you know that let me see if you can guess how many times how many episodes of parks you did do you do you would you know to guess I would say
Speaker 2 between seven and 13 yeah 10. 10?
Speaker 2 Okay, between 7 and 13.
Speaker 2 That's my, it's kind of right between.
Speaker 2 That's what amazing.
Speaker 2
But it was such a huge impact on my life. Like, it's still the thing I get most recognized for.
Really? Yes.
Speaker 2 And I just remember, well, first of all, you were the most incredible number one on a call sheet because you had dance parties at lunch every day.
Speaker 2 And anybody that walked on that like set just was filled with such confidence and such joy, which is, I had the greatest time on that show.
Speaker 1 I have such, I don't have the greatest time.
Speaker 2 That's where we kind of fell in love.
Speaker 1
But that is, that's really Catherine, where we, I think, actually met. Met.
My first kind of like real memory is in the trailer of Parks and Rec.
Speaker 1
And we used to, Catherine is talking about dance parties. And we used to do a thing where just like after lunch, we would play three songs.
Best.
Speaker 1
The great autumn butler, our makeup artist, had great taste in music. And we would just kind of dance around for two or three songs.
Yeah. The best.
Speaker 1 I think for me, a way to honestly just keep my energy up. Yeah.
Speaker 1
But it became a way to meet people in the trailer. And I remember two things I loved about you right away.
How much you love to laugh. People that know you know that.
Like you.
Speaker 2
You love to laugh. If someone's going to break in a scene, it's this professional over here.
You know, I don't, do you think you break?
Speaker 2
I have to be really serious in my mind. Like if I have, because if it starts to happen, it is tears.
Yeah. And mucus.
Speaker 1 But you, I have seen you in bloopers and you're hanging in.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I do hang in. You hang in.
I do. Yeah.
Speaker 1 You, in fact, go in harder, I think, when people are.
Speaker 2 I have to.
Speaker 2
I know it's a survival technique. I just have to dig in a little bit.
I do. I go harder.
Speaker 1
I feel like every time I've done a scene with you, you are so good at improvising. In fact, like a lot of your character on Parks and Rec, Jen Barkley's moments were improvised.
Were they really?
Speaker 1 Well, one of the favorites, one of TikTok and memes and gifts and just
Speaker 1 his poncho.
Speaker 2 Yeah, poncho was. So let's talk about what happened.
Speaker 1 For people that have never seen that, what is it? What tell us what that scene was?
Speaker 2 Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house.
Speaker 2 I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my character. I'm the first person.
Speaker 1 Well, for people that aren't watching, she just transferred.
Speaker 2
I just transferred her. Her eyes turned dark and she's a completely different person.
A lot more hairspray.
Speaker 2 I went to their house. They have children.
Speaker 2 I am not into children at all. I wore a plastic poncho so that I wouldn't get any sticky fingers or crap all over me.
Speaker 2 And at some point, the kids rush by with paint, nail me with the paint, and at some take, just to make you guys laugh, I don't even did not have any idea it was going to be any, I just swung my arms open.
Speaker 2 I went, poncho, poncho. And then it really has to be,
Speaker 1 it's like Batman's cape.
Speaker 2
I mean, oh, that was the best. Like I just wanting to make you guys laugh and just having having so the energy was so loose.
So, I like, it's funny you say that improvising.
Speaker 2 Again, I can do it if I know who I am and like the given circumstances and like that. I feel like
Speaker 1 I feel really free in that department, but just well, you know how like we were on set a lot and I would watch you work and I would say the same thing about Adam.
Speaker 1 And I wonder too if it's because of your both of your training, but I would watch the way you two worked
Speaker 1 and
Speaker 1 you would have a moment where we you'd stay really, really loose, and but just right before the scene, and I can think of a couple scenes that the great scene where Jen Barkley is telling Leslie, no, basically, you know, you have to start, oh, you have to start thinking bigger, which is a huge moment in the show.
Speaker 1 I love the writing and that
Speaker 2 scene.
Speaker 1 Mike Scherr and the writer's like, I just love how they slowly took care of Leslie and they sent people in to give her these messages.
Speaker 1 And Jen Barkley is just this like Gen X
Speaker 1 ball buster
Speaker 2 who
Speaker 1 kind of sees something that Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment, when you're giving that speech, I remember very clearly right before the scene, you just took a moment.
Speaker 1 And I think we joked about it later because
Speaker 2 it was watching a real actor. Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 Just staying one more second on parks because I do think that
Speaker 1 it was such a formative time in my life, obviously, for many reasons. And one of them was meeting you.
Speaker 1
What I always use that us as an example of is that you never know who you have yet to meet. No.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 I think, you know, when you're in your 40s, there's this feeling that you've pretty much, you have your old friends, your high school friends, you have maybe a partner and their friends.
Speaker 1 You have your kid mom friends. college, yeah, college, yeah, you have like this, all these different groups of friends, and you think, I think I've met everybody that's going to be my close friends.
Speaker 2 I have, I
Speaker 2 know, because sometimes those friends become just family, you know what I mean? And as everybody grows and changes, and like people, there's, they're
Speaker 2 so in my life, always, always, always, but we are very different people. I don't know what you know, and you're right, there are people like, I think, even I've been in a
Speaker 2 of projects where you get like intimate really fast and everybody says goodbye but then there are certain people where you I didn't anticipate this like I did that was the the one of the pleasures for me too is like I did not anticipate that you would want to continue to be my friend
Speaker 2 after we did it
Speaker 2
And then the fact that it's gotten like deeper and deeper. I'm like, no, I don't know how to do it.
I mean, like, I am so grateful for you in my life. We've like
Speaker 1 been in the trenches.
Speaker 2
We've been in the trenches. Yeah.
We have. Yeah.
Speaker 1 We have like, we've been through a lot of tough times together.
Speaker 1
We've been very honest with each other. Yeah.
We've like I think we've really
Speaker 1 like taken great pains to see each other.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2 Yeah. Like we're make it a priority.
Speaker 1 And I mean, I know how I feel about how important that is for me, but what, but how, what are, how are female friendships important to you? What do they do for you?
Speaker 2 I think that the real female friends that I have, the deep ones, are fewer than than I thought I would have. Like the ones that are really, you know, have your back through anything.
Speaker 2 And there's a difference. Like these, it's so important to have
Speaker 2 women in your life that aren't family to grow old with in a way that it's like you said, feels very honest, but and also hilarious, but also doesn't feel like we have to keep up anything anything together, like keep up any sort of like
Speaker 2 front. It just feels like, and also very affirming, like to walk into these next chapters together just feels like it's not as terrifying.
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1 The witch's road.
Speaker 2 The witch's road.
Speaker 2 The coven.
Speaker 2
Coven on coven. Yes.
Yes.
Speaker 1 That's why, I mean, that is why when I watched that show, when I watched Agatha all along,
Speaker 2 that it was so moving.
Speaker 1 You just get basically, you must hold hands with someone to go into the next step.
Speaker 1 And let's be honest, our female friendships and relationships are gonna, you know, with the exception of maybe our sibling relationships, will probably last the longest.
Speaker 2 I know they will.
Speaker 2 And I think with my dear, dearest women friends, of which there are very few, that that is such a source of comfort, just to be heard by another woman, yes, without judgment, without like anything but just
Speaker 2 um
Speaker 2 love.
Speaker 2 I know, I feel you.
Speaker 1 Speaking of other women,
Speaker 1 so we do this thing where we ask people before we have a guest to chat about the guests. So like I kind of like wanted to,
Speaker 1 and we got Patty Lapone.
Speaker 2 No, you did. Yes.
Speaker 2 Oh my God.
Speaker 2 I was so excited.
Speaker 2 The wolf. Patty.
Speaker 2
The wolf. The wolf.
Lapone.
Speaker 2
Of course. The wolf.
Of course.
Speaker 2 Oh, my God. I'm not, this is going to be the best.
Speaker 1 Well, first of all.
Speaker 2 What if it was like, ah, ah?
Speaker 1 Well, she can't sing, but. Yeah, not talented.
Speaker 2 No, she, she's so great. Isn't she? I know.
Speaker 2 Talk about
Speaker 1 a new friend that I want to. I mean, I feel like I have to stop telling her,
Speaker 1
I have to stop asking her if we're friends. I just have to start believing that we are.
But anyway, oh, doll.
Speaker 2
Let's call everyone doll. You're right.
To have someone that is like in a different stage of our lives that you can, that is so real.
Speaker 2 Very,
Speaker 2 very important.
Speaker 1 I don't know about you, but I get very comfortable around
Speaker 1 older women who are very bossy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Because I get very relaxed.
Speaker 2
Yeah. We're in good hands.
We're in good hands.
Speaker 1
And the few times that I've hung out with Patty, she's like, we're going for a walk. And she tells me what to buy.
And it's just,
Speaker 1
okay. So tell me about how you was Agatha the first time you met her? Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Speaker 2 And I remember when they said it was Patty LaPonda, I was like, no.
Speaker 2 And then I met her at the first table read and she just came in with so many questions,
Speaker 2
which of course, like she knew nothing about Marvel. I barely know anything about Marvel.
So she was like, okay.
Speaker 2
And it was just all of these very detailed questions, but then she just forgot and it didn't matter. Like she was, she'll stay, she'll still be like, I don't know anything about Marvel.
She did.
Speaker 2 She told us that.
Speaker 1 She did. She said, well, I don't know anything about, which I love.
Speaker 2 I mean,
Speaker 1 and also.
Speaker 1 And she said, you guys met at the table, Reed.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 1 And Agatha was a really big circus to me.
Speaker 2 Oh, yes.
Speaker 1 And you had to do a lot of big stuff on there.
Speaker 2 A lot of swinging.
Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh. So much, you know,
Speaker 1 if one is to be
Speaker 1 acting is a little embarrassing.
Speaker 2 Oh, right.
Speaker 1 You had to do so much stuff.
Speaker 1 Birthing scenes and crazy stuff.
Speaker 2 Holding hands and singing.
Speaker 1 Yes, so much
Speaker 1 incredible stuff.
Speaker 2 Yes. But like walking in the razor's edge, because we knew if it went one way or the other, it could be like, oh, wow.
Speaker 1
And America voted and it worked. America voted.
If TikTok,
Speaker 1 TikTok is my government.
Speaker 2 Okay, I know.
Speaker 2 I got to get on TikTok.
Speaker 1 I think it's wrapping up.
Speaker 2
Oh, I know. That's my perfect timing, as usual.
Still my AOL.
Speaker 1 I'm like, let me get in there. And everyone's like, now?
Speaker 1 And I'm like, yep, right before the door closes. But just for a second, what was it like to be on such a big show,
Speaker 1 having to make really big choices with all these incredibly big personalities and people? It was just, it must have been something.
Speaker 2 We were all, there was no trailers to go back to, really, because we were kind of far away always so we would set up like a little coven of our chairs in a circle so like all of our crew chairs would be in a circle and you could just hear us cackling like the whole like i mean we just laughed and patty had a boom box
Speaker 2 and she would get up and like dance or start singing and we would all be like
Speaker 1 like it's coming out of her mouth right now so patty wanted me to ask you two questions oh first she said she loves your snort and we already got it
Speaker 2 we already got it once i thought like oh it's not as cute anymore but it still comes out.
Speaker 1 I mean, you're talking to a person that laughs like a,
Speaker 1 I've been described as a raven when a raven,
Speaker 1
when someone runs over a raven's foot. That's how somebody described my laugh one time.
So, I mean, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 It's the greatest laugh ever.
Speaker 1 It's just, I have a very witchy laugh too.
Speaker 2
I have a very witchy laugh. And a very, you do.
And it's a cackle and a very devious laugh sometimes. It is.
It is.
Speaker 2 So you
Speaker 2 I just love it so much because it hits like a little devious.
Speaker 2 And then huge gaggles.
Speaker 1 And you have a great laugh too. Like you laugh with your whole body.
Speaker 2
I do. You like that.
I do. There she goes.
But I really do. I do.
I love a good laugh.
Speaker 1 God, me too.
Speaker 1 Have you always been that way? Was that, where did, where, like, have you always been that kind of person that loved a good laugh?
Speaker 2 In high school, it started for sure.
Speaker 2 And then I was like, you know, I went to an all-girls Catholic school so we had like a i mean that group was constantly making fun of the nuns and so it was just like crying all the time
Speaker 2 just crying all the time just like
Speaker 2 uh just floating maxi pads in the like the same in like mary's pond like there's like a statue of mary we just like and the nuns would be like okay so there are maxi pads floating in the it was like always shit like that just like fun church giggle stuff stupid like you'd open up a locker and there'd be like a huge dick that you would
Speaker 2 pop out on a spring.
Speaker 1 It truly's my theory that Catholic school girls were A,
Speaker 1 so bad.
Speaker 2
They were so bad. Well, because everything was, you know, uniforms and there was like church every week.
And it all felt like, I don't know if I believe in any of this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 And then B, they were just like really.
Speaker 2
ready for us, really. Yeah.
Ready to go. Oh, I was like, let's go, let's go.
And there were, I was like, any takers, any takers? And there was not takers.
Speaker 2 I was
Speaker 2
like horny. So horny.
And I was like, okay.
Speaker 2 I was like, is it my over-plucked eyebrows?
Speaker 2 What's happening? Is it my Catholic school uniform that my mom thought I was going to gain maybe or like seven dress sizes?
Speaker 2 But I was literally like, kids would go down and see my skirt and just pull it off.
Speaker 2 Like in school. So we had to wear boxers.
Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Boxers were a big deal.
Speaker 2 Wait, it was just an all-girls school?
Speaker 1 Yeah. And they were pantsing you.
Speaker 2
Pantsing me. Skirting you.
And skirting you.
Speaker 2 I did go to co-ed Catholic Elementary School, and we would have something called Friday Flip Up Day. So we knew to wear boxers because on Friday, all the guys ran around and flip up your skirt.
Speaker 1 Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 Yes. And Thursday, throw-up day.
Speaker 2 Wednesday, wedding day. I don't know what Tuesday or Monday was.
Speaker 1 And they would just flip up your skirt. And back then we were like,
Speaker 2
the price of being a girl. That is.
We were like, oh, we better get prepared.
Speaker 1 We were like, maybe someone will flip up my skirt today.
Speaker 2 So fucked up.
Speaker 1
So fucked up. So fucked up.
And the teachers were like, if you guys are doing the flip-up, keep it outside of the business.
Speaker 2 I don't want to know about it.
Speaker 2 And then I remember some guy, some kid, I was in sixth grade called me gorilla legs because
Speaker 2 I hadn't shaved my legs yet. And I was like horrified by that.
Speaker 2
So I went home and I tried to shave and it was like a cheese grater. It was like, I could see a curl of my skin before it started bleeding.
And I was like, what? Oh, I still have scars. Oh, no.
Speaker 2 I didn't know how to do it. I went rogue with my dance shaver in the tub.
Speaker 1 Oh, no. So that stupid boy.
Speaker 2 It was that stupid boy.
Speaker 1
I know. I had a stupid boy tell me one time that I look like a frog, that my face looked like a frog.
And I just, I still think about it. I mean, I still remember it.
Speaker 1 And I just remember being like, oh,
Speaker 1 yeah, but you just get that thing where you're like, well, I guess I'll live the life of a frog then. Like you just immediately are like, well, if one boy thinks it,
Speaker 1 then it shall be so.
Speaker 2 Then it shall be so. Yeah.
Speaker 1 I guess well, I'll be, they'll just flip up my skirt and wear my boxers and shave my legs in the bathtub and wear it, have a face like a frog.
Speaker 2 I mean, it's horrible.
Speaker 2
It's horrible. The shit I got for my nose my whole life.
Really? For
Speaker 2 the size of your nose? Yes. And that I had such a
Speaker 2
such a like thing about it that I was like, when I'm 18, I'm getting a nose job. And now I'm so glad that I did it.
No. Yeah.
And now I love my nose.
Speaker 1 I just think people should know that you have never gotten any plastic surgery. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I just.
Speaker 2 But I think also we, I feel that way with you. Like,
Speaker 2 this is a treacherous moment where you're like, have to leave behind all that currency that I really did. I wasn't, listen, I wasn't like,
Speaker 2 that was my, that wasn't my currency in this business was never like.
Speaker 2 Same. Which I think is helpful going forward because it's not, but
Speaker 2 yeah, I'm like, but now you're now you've gotten into mother phase.
Speaker 1 You're mother Han.
Speaker 2
Now I'm mother Han because honestly, this is my Instagram thing, but I haven't used sit in the first fight. I kind of petered out on the dumbest one.
I just haven't done it again.
Speaker 2 I put it on my computer.
Speaker 2
And yeah, I haven't posted it. Literally, it's the dumbest last one.
I don't even know what it is, but it was just petered out.
Speaker 2 And
Speaker 2 we tried, my daughter tried to find a name for me or like whatever, handle.
Speaker 2 Is that what it's called? Yeah, I think so
Speaker 2 and we couldn't find anything with my name and then we saw mother han lowercase and i was like oh that's funny and she was like you know the other connotations though and i was like yeah fine i'll be cute but then it has really a very it does have a very specific um
Speaker 1 the following which i love well that's what i'm saying is there's this amazing moment that's happening for you in general where you know people that have loved your work now for 20 years are seeing you get this kind of next level of
Speaker 1
recognition and all that comes with like the Marvel machine. Yes.
And there is this also celebration at the same time, led primarily by gay men, but not just gay men.
Speaker 2 And young gay women.
Speaker 1
Young gay women who love the lesbian kiss that you had on Agatha with our beautiful Aubrey Plaza. Yes.
Like that are
Speaker 1 deciding to just
Speaker 1 be like, mother.
Speaker 1 And
Speaker 1 that feels like you're being anointed.
Speaker 2
Which I'm like, it's Anne Bancroft and the graduate. Like, that's what it feels like.
There's like a cougary vibe. Yes.
Instead, but I also think that there's kind of like a,
Speaker 2 because I don't, I mean, that's not who I am, but I guess it also means like,
Speaker 2 I don't know. What does, what do you think it means? Like,
Speaker 1 I think it's like a way. Yes,
Speaker 1 it's like a way to compliment someone's
Speaker 1 wisdom and fortitude without making them while still making them feel sexy.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 1 There's something that feels sexy about it because it's very dom.
Speaker 2 It's very like, she will crush you. Like it's a little bit like mother.
Speaker 2 Right.
Speaker 2 Maybe you should have done Instagram should have been, whoops, you should have tried to spell that out.
Speaker 1
But, but also, there's a reverence to it, like a respect. There's like a, there's like a loving respect.
I, I, again, someone else could probably break down the etymology and what it really means.
Speaker 1 And we all know where it comes back, goes back to like the houses and, you know, like all the queer culture back
Speaker 1 who are creating their own community and family. I love it.
Speaker 2 I know. It moves me so much.
Speaker 1
Me too. And it's cool.
And it's just, there's
Speaker 1 something that's happening right now. I'm noticing in real time where women our age in our 50s in our business used to kind of just be
Speaker 2 on the way out.
Speaker 1 For the most part, there were a few, but a lot of them were not really regarded by young people as being vital
Speaker 1 producers of things.
Speaker 2 Yeah. That is changing.
Speaker 2 It is changing.
Speaker 2 I never liked MILF.
Speaker 2 I hated MILF.
Speaker 1 Me too. Why do we hate it?
Speaker 2 Well, because it's a porn term probably
Speaker 2 by a lot of young men that have fetish for fucking older women.
Speaker 1
Yeah, I never liked it. Mothers.
Yeah. And also I didn't like it because it was like, oh, you'll still fuck them.
Speaker 2 Yes.
Speaker 1
Let me check. Yeah.
They don't want to fuck you.
Speaker 1
I just checked. Gut check.
Gut check. Butt check and gut check.
Speaker 2
But check. It's not happening for you.
It's like, oh, great. I know.
It was like, well, I had a couple MILFs. And it's like, oh, God.
Speaker 1 Maybe we don't like it too because it sounds like milk.
Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe, maybe because.
Speaker 2 Yeah. But it just feels like it's from the dude's point of view in like a gross, porny way.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Mother feels a little bit more.
Speaker 2 Yeah, respect it.
Speaker 1 And it feels more
Speaker 1 gay adjacent, queer adjacent. So it feels a little
Speaker 2
so much. I love it so much.
I love the very young queer women that are
Speaker 2 felt really
Speaker 2 like loved Agatha all along. Like that was such a huge part of our audience that was very, very moving.
Speaker 1 I mean, you were the first gay Marvel kiss, right? I or queer Marvel kiss.
Speaker 2
I don't know. I think.
I've seen a piece of paper.
Speaker 1 Let me see.
Speaker 2
It's not on the, yeah. Oh.
Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 The first Marvel lesbian kiss, according to this paper.
Speaker 2
That just flew in. Hold on.
What if it's just floated down? It's from the sky. It's coming from the sky.
Here we go. But yeah, it's pretty cool.
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, it's cool.
That's cool.
Speaker 2 And with Plaza. So it just could not be cooler.
Speaker 1 I know, I know. Our beautiful baby plaza.
Speaker 1 What's going?
Speaker 1 And I'm aware of, as you're, as a therapist, I'm aware of the time. It's 11.48.
Speaker 2 I am so fine with the past. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1
just letting you know because I want to override this town. You have a long press day.
And so I know you have to do a lot of talking, but and you have to eat wings. I don't eat.
Speaker 1 You have to eat hot wings.
Speaker 2 I'm so sorry I don't have wings.
Speaker 2 I know I should be prepping before my diarrhea kicks in.
Speaker 1 I even asked you about that wings thing. You have it and you're like, no.
Speaker 2
I absolutely not. I could say, hate milk.
So I don't have to do it. It's going to be a disaster for you.
No, it's going to be. Someone said peanut butter on toast beforehand.
Line your stomach.
Speaker 1 The things we go through for press.
Speaker 2 For no reason
Speaker 1 what do we have to do we have to line our stomach
Speaker 1 how did this how did this happen how are we now doing eating spicy things this but and spicier and spicier while being asked really interesting really interesting questions
Speaker 2 really great questions but um but the the way in which we're like i guess yeah i guess for this show i gotta have diarrhea for four days for four days ring of fire but i also there's something about it that I was like, yes.
Speaker 2 Because it just felt so,
Speaker 2 so unique that it just
Speaker 1
is a really good example of what we were talking about earlier. Like you're like, this is going to be fun.
I'm into it. You're into
Speaker 1
the lack of control. Yeah.
And like, I'm like, am I going to vomit?
Speaker 2 Am I going to? I don't know. We actually do, that is actually Friday, but I have a lot, but other stuff to, but I am, so I have a couple days to prep my stomach.
Speaker 1 It's like a colonoscopy.
Speaker 2 I have to start eating like
Speaker 2
in reverse, because I think I got to line it as thick as possible. So there's no way.
Like my throat down to my colon has to just be lined with bread. Yogurt,
Speaker 2
peanut butter, and just bread shoved in there. Show business, baby.
Show business.
Speaker 1 That's what, that's why we got into show business to do stuff like that, to just eat weird hot stuff
Speaker 2 on camera for free.
Speaker 1 For free.
Speaker 1 But we were talking a little bit about the way in which you're getting received, like when you're out in public, that's a little overwhelming sometimes because of the fandom of it all.
Speaker 1 Like there's you're in a machine now that's bigger than maybe some other ones. And we were kind of talking about that feeling of like having to take on other people's energy.
Speaker 1 And how do you balance the introversion and extroversion part of what we do? Well,
Speaker 2 You know, we were talking about hot ones for a while.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I knew the pets that they see.
Speaker 2 Okay, fans.
Speaker 2 No,
Speaker 2 it's, you know, you're, I mean, Marvel is a totally different machine, and I am so rarely recognized in my life. Like,
Speaker 2
you know, I just walk out like this. I don't think about it.
So I'm like, you know, I had one meal with Carrie Kenny Silver, who I love so much.
Speaker 2
And she, someone came up to our table and was like, sorry, I have to tell you, I love you. And I think it's so hilarious.
You go out of the house looking like this.
Speaker 2 And I was like, oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 My thing is when people go,
Speaker 1 can I tell you who you look like? And I'm always like, please don't. No.
Speaker 2 It is never. It's never going to be great.
Speaker 1
It's never going to be great. Unless it's Scar Joe or something.
Like, it's never.
Speaker 1 And it's, and it's also so, it's always someone who is a hard 30 years older than who I am, which is
Speaker 1 fine, but.
Speaker 2 Okay.
Speaker 1 So let's talk about Philly Justice before we talk about the studio and then we'll be done.
Speaker 2 Actually, one of the most, the thing I'm almost the most proud of.
Speaker 1 Okay, can you explain to people what we're talking about when we started?
Speaker 2 Okay, when we were, there was a bunch of the Parks and Rec actors. It was Paul, Rudd, you, Rashida, Adam.
Speaker 2 And is that it?
Speaker 1 Yeah, me, we, the original picture that Philly Justice was born out of was me, you, Rashida, Adam, and Rudd.
Speaker 2 And it was, we had like businessy outfits on. I think we were going to court or something.
Speaker 2 Or like, so all of us had like very businessy, and I don't know whose idea was it, but we took a, um, it was, whose idea was it?
Speaker 2 But we were all in like kind of staggered stairs and what looked like the front of like a very,
Speaker 2 you know, a courthouse.
Speaker 1
We, we'd pretended we were on a fake TV show in the 90s called Philly Justice Justice or the early 2000s. Yes.
All crossed our arms. Yes.
Speaker 1 Then that became a text chain where we started pretending that we were, we were just pretending we had been texting each other.
Speaker 2
Like, as the actress from it, is the pilot going to be picked up? It's like we were going to do. Like, we were all very excited.
It was like a David Kelly-esque show. So there was like some cachet.
Speaker 2 It wasn't like a shitty show.
Speaker 1
Right. Catherine is playing like a lawyer question mark.
Question mark. We don't know.
And who
Speaker 1 has a very tempestuous relationship with Angie Martinez, played by Rashida Jones? Yes.
Speaker 2
And we're not sure. Yes.
A lot of pasts.
Speaker 2 I I mean, I think you guys are lovers.
Speaker 2 Amy, please excuse her. She knows not what she's doing.
Speaker 1 Like Robert Durst when he's guilty.
Speaker 2 Sorry. Every time I bring up being your lesbian tendencies, you start burping and we're like, hmm.
Speaker 2 Okay.
Speaker 1
But I mean, I remember thinking, I can't believe how lucky I am that I'm working with people who want to also do this dumb thing. Yes.
Like,
Speaker 1
fun, dumb things to me are a love language. That's a way of like, it proves like safety, I guess.
That if you're relaxed enough to do fun, dumb things, and you're in the right place.
Speaker 2 Yeah. And the more, the older and older I get, I feel like.
Speaker 2 Just want that.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, nothing is that important.
Speaker 2 Right.
Speaker 1 A great transition into your new show.
Speaker 2
And the studio. But it is fun.
The studio is fun. It is fun.
And you mentioned Catherine O'Hara.
Speaker 1 Talk to us about the show and the cast.
Speaker 2 I mean, Catherine O'Hara, another goddess that I couldn't believe. We've only have a couple scenes in it, but I have gotten to know her like through the press thing.
Speaker 2 And she is, like we were saying, like what I want to, like, that's how I want to grow up. Yeah.
Speaker 2
Even though she's, you know, basically my aunt, but she is, I mean, on camera and not off camera, like just such a huge, a good egg. And it's Seth Rogan and Evan Goldberg.
Seth stars in it.
Speaker 2
And they both wrote all the episodes and directed all the episodes with like one shot. They're all like wonders.
There's some invisible seams. Wow.
Speaker 2 I know, but it's really incredible because we rehearsed each scene like a play.
Speaker 2 Like we had to rehearse it a gazillion times with the camera and then know when the camera's going to be on you and know like when to get out of the way for the camera and still like try to keep eye contact.
Speaker 2 It was so, it was like a the challenges were so
Speaker 2
fun and juicy. And, and also you knew that if you fucked up one line in it, you'd have to go back to the beginning.
So like the tension of everybody
Speaker 2 really added to the tension of this fictional studio, Continental Studios, that Seth Rogan just became the head of and trying to save it, like it can't keep it from the streamers and also the like balance between art and
Speaker 2 money, like block button, like he, he's a lover of film that just wants to make like, you know, Fox Catcher all the time.
Speaker 2
And they're like, you can't make it all the time. You have to make a Kool-Aid movie, you know? So it's like the tension between.
And it's Ike Barenholtz is in it, who's freaking hilarious.
Speaker 2
He's so good. The best.
Chase, Sweet Wonders, Peach, hilarious. And Brian Cranston has a recurring as the
Speaker 2 money guy on top of the studio.
Speaker 2 And who do you play i play um the market the head of marketing
Speaker 2 your look is incredible it is incredible and i feel like there's a lot of humans in hollywood that just dress label to label so she's just totally different a girl at sacks
Speaker 2 who will bring the shit to the office and she tries it on at lunch has a tab running running tab at sacks nice and also probably
Speaker 2 um
Speaker 2 you know what is it, Delaney? The Dover Street Market. A lot of like street brands.
Speaker 1 She has big nails. I remember that, right?
Speaker 2
Long, long nails. Yeah.
And no personal life. So it's all filling like a deep, empty hole.
Yes. That she gets,
Speaker 2 that she just lives at her job. And is it a weekly thing or can we still?
Speaker 1 It's weekly.
Speaker 2 Okay, great.
Speaker 1 I have to say, overall, I'm enjoying a more weekly thing because I feel like we binged too hard.
Speaker 2 I do too.
Speaker 2 Yeah, and it gives me a headache and also makes me feel like a little bit sick.
Speaker 1 The binging is too much. It's too much.
Speaker 2 It's too much. And you lose the
Speaker 2
swallowed at that time. I was like, three.
I can't do three on your podcast.
Speaker 2
Yes. What is wrong with me? I just swallowed.
It's the rule of three.
Speaker 1 You have to do one more burp for a comedy.
Speaker 2 Maybe that was the third name. It was just,
Speaker 2 I swallowed it. And now it's just a hot.
Speaker 1 There are people I know that listen to these things and they have a hard time, like with whatever it's called. What's the
Speaker 1 word when you don't like mouth sounds?
Speaker 2 Oh,
Speaker 1 misophonia.
Speaker 2 Misophonia.
Speaker 1 Where they don't like the milky mouth sounds of people, which I understand.
Speaker 2
I understand it. I understand it.
The worst is when you're talking to someone and there's little white cream on the creases of their mouth. And then when they talk, you can hear like,
Speaker 2 and you just want to be like, slide them again. I want to slide them.
Speaker 1 And I feel like this is the end of our interview because where are we back? We're back to water. We're back to water.
Speaker 2 How badly do you have to pee?
Speaker 2
Not at all. I've been peeing this whole time.
Oh, right. Next time, I want to wear just, I don't even know how it works.
If there's an adult diaper, just a bucket.
Speaker 1
No, you just pee. The thing, people don't tell you about podcasting, which I learned when I first started.
Yeah. You pee anytime.
You just pee in your seat.
Speaker 1 All of the men you're watching, they're constantly peeing. Just underneath their table.
Speaker 2
Gross. There's a stadium, buddy.
Yeah. Or have you ever seen the women's version of that? I haven't.
Oh,
Speaker 2 the women's version my friend gave me. It's like a funnel because we can be like,
Speaker 1 so
Speaker 2 it isn't like a straight shot.
Speaker 1 Okay, keep it in my car. Okay.
Speaker 2 I thought you were like, keep it in my pants.
Speaker 1 I keep it in my bed. No, it's a, it's a funnel that you, I suggest getting it.
Speaker 1 You're supposed to use it for camping, but I have it for my car because sometimes you're in traffic and it's and it's a, oh no, like what and I
Speaker 2 get that going while you're driving a car?
Speaker 1 I have never, I've never, to be fair, I've never actually used it.
Speaker 2 Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 Like this, knowing it's there.
Speaker 2 I know.
Speaker 2 So you have a backup. Maybe also sometimes if there's a questionable gas station restroom,
Speaker 2 I would rather come squat.
Speaker 1 I would rather pull over and pee.
Speaker 2 I've done that before.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I've done that definitely in places that
Speaker 2
like the national parks where you like open the small one. It's just a hole.
Yeah. I just think
Speaker 1 I've just pulled over and opened up my car door and just peed.
Speaker 2 I think we all have.
Speaker 1 I mean, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2 What are you going to do? Seriously. No, no one wants a UTI.
Speaker 1 And you can't be like a man and pee in a bottle like a like.
Speaker 2
Oh my God. Have you ever been? There's some streets in New York City.
I know this is getting long, but there's some streets in New York that are like
Speaker 2 the arteries for getting off the bridges or whatever. If you walk down, it's like filled Coke bottles with urine.
Speaker 1 Men are so fucking good.
Speaker 2 So disgusting. But I have to tell you, okay, last thing.
Speaker 2 Sometimes I'm like, women, lift up the freaking seat.
Speaker 1 100%.
Speaker 2 I'm like, I've sat so many times on other women's urine.
Speaker 1 Women, you cannot pee on the seat to protect your own germs.
Speaker 1 I know. You can't not sit on a toilet seat so that I have to sit on it.
Speaker 2 I can't just pee. Yes.
Speaker 2 Lift it up. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 Also, if you're really that weird about it, put toilet paper on the seat.
Speaker 2 They have things for you.
Speaker 1 They have things. Don't squat on the seat, pee on it, and then leave.
Speaker 2 And then leave. You know what?
Speaker 1 Women are disgusting to me.
Speaker 2 Or wipe it off with a, and you're like, I know you just tried to wipe it off, but it's still there.
Speaker 1 You're talking to a gal who left signs in a, in a, uh, when I think it must have been when I was at SNL. I was like, who is peeing on this seat?
Speaker 2 Oh, yes.
Speaker 1 I was like, hey, news flash. This is a disaster for those that follow.
Speaker 2 Restroom for a lot of women. Yeah.
Speaker 2 Well, last thing, growing up in Cleveland, we had faulty, um,
Speaker 2 what's it called?
Speaker 2 You know, when you flush a toilet,
Speaker 2 plumbing Plumbing.
Speaker 2 Ah, age.
Speaker 2 But my dad had a sign above the toilet that said, poop, flush, white flush.
Speaker 2 Because if you put the poop and
Speaker 2
the toilet paper in there, it would overflow immediately. White flush.
Poop flush, white flush. I'm going to leave you with that.
Speaker 2 Anywho. But
Speaker 2
I think these are important things to say. They are.
They are. They are.
We don't talk about it, but these are. But also, just women, lastly, lift up the seat.
Speaker 1 Just to clarify
Speaker 2 you don't have to and you don't have to lift yeah don't just sit on it on it sit on if you don't feel like sitting on it lift it sit on the seats sit on the seat what like where are we that's why they just where are we you're so lucky to have a seat there's a lot of people that just have to squat
Speaker 1 If someone ran for like Congress and their whole thing was sit on the seat,
Speaker 1 they'd win.
Speaker 2
They'd win. They would win.
Sit on the seat. I'm going to start making bumper stickers.
Okay.
Speaker 1
I'm asking a bunch of people, because you love to laugh. You have a great laugh.
I'm asking a bunch of people, what are they doing right now to make themselves laugh?
Speaker 1 Like, what is the thing you're watching or doing or listening to? What cracks you up?
Speaker 2 My dog
Speaker 2 really cracks me up. He's such a little weenus.
Speaker 2 Everything, his name is Banjo, and he's such an idiot.
Speaker 2 He's such a mutt, and he has his tail that's always so high. So he's got a really aggressive asshole.
Speaker 2
And everything he does is so stupid that he makes me laugh so hard. He's a dingo, like everything he does.
What does he do? What does he like?
Speaker 2 He'll get outside and he'll like do laughs, like back and forth as fast as he can from one side of the lawn to the other. Like, he won't stop.
Speaker 2 And he, he'll just have he has this corn cob that he can chew has a sound in it, and he'll just look at you and be like,
Speaker 2 like, and you hear the horn going on for so long.
Speaker 1 And so, his anxiety is funny.
Speaker 2 He has had a cone on for a third of his life
Speaker 2 because he constantly is eating something or he'll look at you like, ah, there's just blood gushing out of his back leg. I'm like, banjo!
Speaker 2
He licked the skin off of his own little paw because he just was stressed out. And then he keeps licking it.
So he's had to, yeah. So.
Speaker 1 Who would play banjo in a movie if he was a human?
Speaker 2
Oh. It would be.
It would be, he's got a lot of white male privilege. He is so blonde.
It's not Patrick Schwarzenegger because he's really great.
Speaker 1 Honestly, it's a young Leo is really what it is.
Speaker 2 It's a young Leo.
Speaker 1 It's a young Leo. It's like a, yes.
Speaker 1 Maybe it's the kid from Baby Girl. What's his name?
Speaker 1 Yes. Right?
Speaker 2 His I don't know his name. Fuck, we'll do it.
Speaker 1 We have a laptop. We can't figure it out.
Speaker 1 Harris Dickinson.
Speaker 2 Harris Dickinson.
Speaker 1 Maybe it's a Harris Dickinson.
Speaker 2 Yeah, it was a little more like,
Speaker 2 I'll do whatever you say, but I can't. I forgot it already.
Speaker 2
It's kind of like that. His day focuses at five o'clock.
That's the only thing he holds on to is dinner at five. Everything else is chaos.
And all of a sudden, at 4:45, he's like,
Speaker 2 I love him so much.
Speaker 1 Good news. We just got, we just heard that Austin Butler is excited to read for Banjo.
Speaker 2 Oh,
Speaker 2 okay.
Speaker 2
So, okay. Maybe.
I'll put him out.
Speaker 2 I'm curious to see his.
Speaker 1 I'd love to see him read.
Speaker 2 I'd love to see him read.
Speaker 2 I'd love to see him read.
Speaker 1 Can't wait to get the tape.
Speaker 2
Okay, I love you. I love you so much.
Okay.
Speaker 1
Thank you to Catherine Hahn, our great hilarious friend. Man, that was so fun.
She's so funny. And she was reminding us about dance parties, which we used to have on the set of Parks and Rec.
Speaker 1 And I want to remind you: you can always have your own.
Speaker 1 All you need is three songs,
Speaker 1 one other person, and
Speaker 1 the want want and need to have fun. So
Speaker 1
do it now. Let's start with Brass in Pocket by the Pretenders.
Take it slow. Warm up and stretch.
Speaker 1 Then go to Red Wine Supernova, Chapel Rowan, sing all the lyrics really loudly and point to each other. And then finish by going to the club with
Speaker 1 a little Rihanna,
Speaker 1 We Found Love in a Hopeless Place, and pretend that you've lost your purse on the dance floor and run around. Three songs is all you need to change your day.
Speaker 1 Thank you guys so much for listening to another episode. Thanks for hanging.
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