The Jonas Brothers

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Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. Very excited about today.

Speaker 1 We're talking to the Jonas brothers, Kevin, Joe, Nick.

Speaker 1 One of them shares my birthday. You're going to have to figure out which one.
And we talk about so many fun things. We talk about their new album, Greetings from Your Hometown.
We talk about

Speaker 1 the Bee Gees and how much we love the Bee Gees. We talk about Broadway and we sing from Les Miz.
It's a good one, guys.

Speaker 2 Buckle up.

Speaker 1 So we always start these episodes by asking someone who knows our guest to give me a question to ask them. We find out a little bit more and we get the dirt.

Speaker 1 And we are very excited to have our guest today, Jack McBraire, Kenneth from 30 Rock, great improviser and Chicago comedian who I spent many years improvising with. Joining me, Jack, hello.

Speaker 1 How are you, my darling?

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Speaker 2 Jack?

Speaker 2 McBreach? McBray?

Speaker 3 McBrazzle.

Speaker 2 Who are you?

Speaker 1 You know, one of the best things about doing these things is that I just get to say hi to people and I miss you. It's good to see you.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's been been a minute. I guess the last time I would have seen you was February 14th at Radio City Music Hall for the SNL music thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right for the big 50th celebration.

Speaker 3 How are you? I can't believe I'm doing this.

Speaker 2 What is this, by the way?

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't know. Who knows?

Speaker 1 It's a pyramid scheme. No, this is a podcast called Good Hang.
And I'm heading with the Jonas Brothers.

Speaker 3 I'm familiar. I'm familiar.

Speaker 1 When did you become first familiar with the Jonas Brothers as an entity rather than actual people?

Speaker 3 Good question. As an entity, I mean, it would have been, I guess, early in their career because we knew like who all the Disney kids were.
Right.

Speaker 3 And they were some of the, you know, OG Disney kids.

Speaker 3 But I mean, because I am older than everyone.

Speaker 2 Not me, sir. Not me.

Speaker 3 We're a close, a close second.

Speaker 2 Gotcha, still got you.

Speaker 3 But I didn't necessarily know their work. I knew they were very, very popular.
And and i knew that they did movies uh together as brothers and you know

Speaker 1 it was interesting to watch that evolution because i mean i could not even imagine working with any member of my family and yet here they were with this whole empire i know it's really really fun to think about uh the questions i want to ask them because It is, they are working with their family.

Speaker 1 It is not a family business is not easy.

Speaker 3 It's a very interesting dynamic to watch, but also they are all just genuine human beings, just wonderful young men.

Speaker 3 And it really has been a pleasure to get to know all of them together and each of them individually.

Speaker 1 So how did you meet them? How did you become friends?

Speaker 3 February 14th, another Valentine's Day, 2009, Alec Baldwin was hosting Saturday Night Love with your musical guest, the Jonas Brothers.

Speaker 3 And Alec very graciously

Speaker 3 had an opportunity for me to come up during the monologue and do a fun little bit with them.

Speaker 3 And so because I'm there for the, you know, days leading up to it for those rehearsals, I got to hang out with the Jonas brothers.

Speaker 3 So delightful. They were just big fans of comedy and they're just like, again, good, solid folk.

Speaker 3 So that is when I met them. And over the years, our paths crisscrossed through different things.
I was staying at the same hotel in Toronto as Nick Jonas several years later. And

Speaker 3 they all came to Saturday Night Live again when Demi Lovato was a musical guest. So a lot of just crisscrossing through the years.

Speaker 3 And then more recently, Nick Jonas got back into acting or, you know, focusing on acting and was on a show called Scream Queens with my neighbor, Glenn Powell.

Speaker 2 Right. That's you.

Speaker 3 Glenn would have movie nights and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 You are so connected, Jack.

Speaker 3 I might be too connected.

Speaker 3 It's

Speaker 3 weird. It's suspicious.

Speaker 1 It's fantastic. I mean,

Speaker 2 I know you. You are the best

Speaker 3 okay so glenn and you and nick and others have game nights i'm hoping correct game nights movie night oh oh oh you're gonna love this nick jonas's favorite movie is they came together

Speaker 1 and you know why i know this during covid During COVID, I went to your driveway.

Speaker 1 There was only a few people I saw during COVID, and one of them was Jack McBrair, who came to my driveway masked and gloved, because that was back when we were really,

Speaker 1 we were

Speaker 1 taking all precautions to sign a They Came Together poster, a film that me and Paul Rudd did for Nick Jonas.

Speaker 3 Nick Jonas, whose birthday is

Speaker 1 the same birthday as mine, September 16th. And the reason why Jack knows that is because Jack is

Speaker 1 a savant.

Speaker 3 One of his love languages is you remember and you take deep you you you care deeply about reaching out to people on their birthday and everyone gets a jack mcbrayer happy birthday text and it means a lot to a lot of us it's so fun and you know i learn a lot some people are like oh you only texted me this year i like it when you call me so i can keep the message i was like oh my gosh so yeah i tried to shake it up today i only have one It's Leslie Powell, Glenn Powell's sister.

Speaker 2 Oh, I do whole families. I know.

Speaker 3 It's like, let's see, Kevin Jonas is November 5th.

Speaker 2 5th.

Speaker 3 Joe Jonas, August 15th, and Nick Jonas, September 16th.

Speaker 1 And so as Nick and Joe and Kevin's friend,

Speaker 1 what question do you think I should ask them today?

Speaker 3 What is their conflict resolution situation like?

Speaker 3 I wonder, like,

Speaker 3 I think that their lives are so unique because they've been famous so much longer than they've been not famous.

Speaker 3 What does that feel like?

Speaker 1 What you're talking about is so interesting because the question there is like,

Speaker 1 you've had to deal with fame for a really long time. What's your relationship to it now?

Speaker 3 And I wonder too, like, if each of the individual brothers deals with it differently.

Speaker 3 For example, you know, Kevin and his family are off on the East Coast and, you know, there's co-parenting going on with, you know, there's just a lot of different versions of what's happening. And,

Speaker 3 but they're all just solid dudes. And it is always, always a joy to see each and every one of them.
I'm such a fan of them as people. Also, they're good at music.

Speaker 2 They're really good at music. They're ugly.
They're very ugly.

Speaker 1 All right. Jack, I love you.
Thank you so much for giving us the time and the question.

Speaker 3 Oh, my gosh. Well, I hope it was helpful.
And yes, have so much fun with them. I'm so happy to see you.

Speaker 2 You too, buddy.

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Speaker 1 I am so psyched you guys are here. Thank you so much for coming.

Speaker 1 And also, you have, we just found out that Nick has two shows tonight.

Speaker 1 Two shows. It's a two-show day, which I know from Broadway

Speaker 1 means you have a matinee and

Speaker 2 an evening show.

Speaker 1 And so thank you for not for like talking because I know a lot of people have to save their voice for a two-show day.

Speaker 2 Well, a lot of people are weak. That's for sure.

Speaker 2 That's for sure.

Speaker 2 You got to hit the vocal drink.

Speaker 1 You guys are pros. I mean, and you have to sing all the time

Speaker 1 and sing good.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You can sing, but you gotta.
See, singing is one thing. Singing good is another.

Speaker 1 And do you worry about losing your voice?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was paranoid about losing my voice or getting sick today or just in dying. Just this whole run.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's kind of like a living stress dream. Oh, my God.
I mean, have you had to cancel shows because of

Speaker 2 Nick? Yeah.

Speaker 2 We've canceled shows.

Speaker 2 There was a long run because of me.

Speaker 2 The first show we ever canceled

Speaker 2 was well was in Zurich. Nick didn't like Zurich, so we were like, We have to cancel the show.
He was like, I'm out of here. But it was nice because we did have a great day off in Zurich.

Speaker 2 It was fantastic. But we stayed in the Zurich.

Speaker 1 There's nothing better than canceled plans. And I know you love your fans and you want to provide plans.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, but

Speaker 2 there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 1 There's nothing you can do about it. But if your plans are canceled, there's no better plans.

Speaker 2 Especially if you're not the one canceling them.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you were in Lee Miz as a little kid.

Speaker 2 One day more.

Speaker 2 Another day, another destiny.

Speaker 2 You got it. I know a place where no one cries.
That show is, I saw it so many times. Me too.

Speaker 2 It was actually one of my like. Oh, when your brother was in it.
Yeah, when he was in it.

Speaker 2 And so it was one of those things where I felt so empowered, though, and so like cool kid because my class in that year that he was in the show went there on a field trip.

Speaker 2 Like that's their field trip every year was to go see Leigh Miss.

Speaker 2 My history class, I guess. And he was in the show that day.
I was like, yes, my brother.

Speaker 1 It was like, I can get you backstage if you want.

Speaker 2 No, I got to like leave, like stay there afterwards. And like, they all went back to school.
And I was like, cool, hanging out.

Speaker 1 You know, you were like, I'm not going back to school.

Speaker 2 It felt so cool.

Speaker 2 Thanks, Nick.

Speaker 1 I wanted to say eldest child to eldest child.

Speaker 1 First of all, not a big deal, but you arrived first today.

Speaker 2 I always arrive first.

Speaker 1 Of course you do. Because, I mean, congratulations to having an older brother who's keeping it together.

Speaker 2 definitely not keeping it together, but I'll be on time.

Speaker 1 But the eldest child. And you guys are basically, you kind of, you two share the middle section.
Because you were the baby until. Right.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. We're, well, we share the middle child.
For those that don't know, we have a younger brother from Franklin Jones.

Speaker 1 Franklin, it was born like eight years later than you.

Speaker 2 Eight years. Yeah, after me.

Speaker 2 He's incredible. Yeah.
He's, but he's, you know.

Speaker 2 He took away.

Speaker 2 I was originally the middle child and then now he fucked it all up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he took everything everything from both of you. I mean, you're not the baby, you're not the middle.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know why you don't matter. Yeah, you're the second of four.

Speaker 1 There's literally no name for it.

Speaker 2 How many siblings do you have?

Speaker 1 I have just a younger brother. That's it.
So I'm the eldest. Eldest sister.
You guys don't have any sisters to like keep you like, you keep your brains functioning, basically.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 2 It's a lot of boys.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of boys.

Speaker 2 But now we all have girls.

Speaker 1 So it's, you know, that's right.

Speaker 2 So it's going to be a whole thing.

Speaker 1 God is fair. God is fair.
Okay. We aren't going to talk about your new record, but I want to talk about New Jersey.

Speaker 1 Cool. So many good singers from New Jersey.

Speaker 2 So many good bands from New Jersey. And people.

Speaker 1 And people. Some people.
Tell us about your hometown.

Speaker 2 Wow. We grew up in a place called Wyckhoff, New Jersey.

Speaker 2 I still live in New Jersey because I never really got out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It sucks me back in. Of course.

Speaker 2 But no, growing up in Jersey was the first time, like we, we did grow up in Dallas as well, and North Carolina and Arizona.

Speaker 2 We like moved around a bunch with our family, but New Jersey is where we like was home with like growing up. And when I think it's the first place I remember feeling like riding bikes,

Speaker 2 seeing houses, like kids playing in you know, the yards, and like it was like

Speaker 2 the first time we saw a house, seeing houses. Oh, we lived in, yeah, I'm sorry, it was just a really funny way to put that.

Speaker 2 Like, I meant to see like white picket fence, house like that, like the American dream. Yes, I've never seen a home before.

Speaker 2 First time I ride a bike, tall house, but yeah, you're supposed to do the show after 12 o'clock in the house.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 your hometown, and it's the name of your new record,

Speaker 1 it means something to you. It's like, you know, that like they're saying, like, you can't take the, you can't take the white cough New Jersey out of the boy.

Speaker 1 Like, like, you, you, you, it's like you're like a homing pigeon or something. Like, you do end up going back to some version of it

Speaker 1 or deeply rejecting it. It's like one or the other.

Speaker 2 That was one of the things that we talked a lot about because

Speaker 2 we're also gearing up for the tour, which represents

Speaker 2 our 20th anniversary of being a band. And congratulations.
Thank you. It's been a wild ride.

Speaker 2 But one of the things in just talking through Creative that we initially sort of butted heads on and then we found the sort of solve for it emotionally is like, not everyone has a great relationship with their hometown, to your point.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And not everyone has a great relationship with their family.

Speaker 2 But one of the things that we're, I think, most grateful for is that our fans have chosen this family, meaning our family, but also each other.

Speaker 2 And you see it at the shows, and they really band together to say that even if your relationship with your hometown is complicated, even if your relationship with your family is complicated, you're safe here in the same way that we felt safe in our hometown growing up and with each other.

Speaker 2 And it's a pretty incredible thing to look out and see now that sort of multi-generational effect of the fan base

Speaker 2 and how it stems

Speaker 2 to some really deep touch points for us, both with our roots in Jersey and our musical roots, speaking of some of those legends from Jersey.

Speaker 1 Okay, I want to talk about the tour because I'm obsessed with how people act on tour.

Speaker 1 You have all toured at various stages of your life. And let me just say, congratulations on 20 years.

Speaker 1 I think when people think of you because they met you when you were young, they still think of you. And by the way, this is going to be great.

Speaker 1 As you get older, people will always think you're younger than you are. But they knew you and met you when you were younger.
And I don't think they realize the amount of time you've been performing.

Speaker 1 20 years together is a huge milestone, and it's awesome. And you've now, I'm sure, gone out and toured in a million different ways.
And tours probably feel different every time you go out.

Speaker 1 Now that you're this age, what does touring look like to you? What do you do, not do saving your voice, going out at night? What does it look like?

Speaker 2 Wow. I think it changed a lot for us

Speaker 2 over the last like five years.

Speaker 2 Our most recent tour we went on was celebrating five albums. Yeah.
So we were trying to play five albums in one show. It's about a two and a half hour show.
Wow.

Speaker 2 We did a lot of medleys, so we were able to make the time, but it was a lot on our voice and just physically exhausting. And we played, I think, a hundred and some, a hundred, how many?

Speaker 2 I don't even know. It was a lot of shows.
Yeah. It's really impressive.
Incredible. And thank you.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 And we had, you start to realize you're not in your early 20s anymore. You have to really take care of your body.
And so

Speaker 2 for me, I was like not drinking before shows and

Speaker 2 then trying to get at least six, seven hours of sleep. We also all have kids, so we have to be up.
We want to be up in the morning.

Speaker 1 Six or seven, it's not enough. Not enough.
And then after the show,

Speaker 2 it takes time to kind of like wind down and decompress. The high is so Nick takes way longer.
Like I'll be, I could be asleep within an hour. Like on the plane, there's so many photos of Joe Hazard.

Speaker 2 Oh, you know,

Speaker 2 passed out. It's just one of those things.
I'll watch a movie.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But Nick will be up till four or five in the morning just because of the come down.
Yeah. Just, you know, my mind's like racing after the show about

Speaker 2 how they could be better.

Speaker 1 And you gather everyone together and you give them notes.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
The note, yeah, the notes take a while to.

Speaker 2 I think the thing that's the most different for me is

Speaker 2 hours, hours, hours.

Speaker 1 Hours of notes.

Speaker 2 I think the thing that's most different for me is like I've spent a little bit more time,

Speaker 2 like after this last tour, I noticed it even more so, but like working with someone, um, like a therapist to help me understand that coming down from it all, like after a big project like that, like being in the midst of the touring, I was so in it for so long that I feel like coming the come off, it can be so dramatic as well.

Speaker 2 It's almost like everyone says, like, talk about like the show blues, like after you do a project, like the next morning, you wake up and there's like you're like kind of depressed.

Speaker 2 Well, it can be the same for me at least, my personal story, uh, about like after a tour.

Speaker 2 Yes, of course, I can Reacclimating can be difficult.

Speaker 1 It's so interesting you say that because, you know, I wanted to ask you, like, your relationship to fame. You've been famous for a long time.

Speaker 1 And it's, that's a microcosm of the bigger idea of like sometimes success or things that are successful or just like big giant serotonin bursts and like cortisol dumps and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Like it is, it is a roller coaster to come down from.

Speaker 2 Well, I think redefining for myself is redefining what the goal is and redefining what a win is. Right.
Because things change constantly

Speaker 2 about

Speaker 2 what success means.

Speaker 2 I think now for me, success means enjoying my time doing what I love.

Speaker 2 And no matter what the outcome is, as long as we're doing it together, as long as my family is with us and enjoying that and they're happy and that's a win for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Obviously, you do want milestones to happen, but like that's the bigger picture. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, it's easier to say some of these things and

Speaker 2 truly believe that you you have a grip and a perspective on how to maintain some sanity.

Speaker 2 And then functionally, you get into the weeds of life in the public eye and traversing all that is complicated about it.

Speaker 2 I think it's just about

Speaker 2 trying your best to, and it's going to sound so cliche before I say it, but trying your best to be a kind and thoughtful person while you're dealing with your own shit.

Speaker 1 That's absolutely right. And I feel the older you get, the more you realize, the less you know.
Like you're like, oh, I actually am less certain.

Speaker 2 And there's some freedom in that, too.

Speaker 1 Totally. But you're fine with fame, Joe?

Speaker 2 I'm actually really good at it. Yeah.
I don't really understand what they're talking about, to be honest. You get it.
I don't have no problem. It feels like it's like literally like every time.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm always like feeling totally by me. Maybe we can hear you guys.
Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I actually told them to say all that.

Speaker 2 And I will add that the why, kind of what you mentioned earlier, like that was also on that tour that we were on. I think more so, like after a while, you're like 60 shows in, you're like,

Speaker 2 wow, this mountain that we're going to climb every night. And I'm tired, or you're going through something really crazy in your personal life.
And you feel like, okay, well, how do I navigate this?

Speaker 2 And also try to do a great performance.

Speaker 1 I mean, as a person that goes to very few concerts because

Speaker 1 they're too late. They're too long.

Speaker 2 I'm with you, honestly. I don't really like it.
I have a hard time. I cancel a lot of concerts.
What do you think is too, What do you think is like the sweet spot?

Speaker 1 Okay, well, now, look, there are exceptions. Like, of course, Taylor's incredible.

Speaker 1 Her show, it's incredible. Bruce Springsteen, incredible.
Like these shows that should be three hours and are incredible productions.

Speaker 1 But unless you're going that big, I can't do a two and a half hour concert.

Speaker 2 I'm so, I'm so glad

Speaker 1 I'm excited because it's just too long.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I want to hear the hits.

Speaker 1 I don't know why someone is mad at me when they, when they don't play the hits, I'm like, why are you mad at me? What, What, what happened? Why are we hearing?

Speaker 1 Why are we hearing the songs that we love?

Speaker 1 But it isn't.

Speaker 2 You got me out of my house. I got in my car.
Or I was driven there.

Speaker 1 And all the standing. I mean, if everyone could.

Speaker 2 Take a seat.

Speaker 1 Think of how great it would be if everyone took a seat.

Speaker 2 I will say, yes, I understand from the audience perspective, but I think from a momentum perspective for us, I feel like that would be a shift.

Speaker 2 That would be a shoulder you get.

Speaker 2 I get it.

Speaker 1 But what if everyone agreed? Everyone was like, hey, we're going to have a really good time and we're not.

Speaker 2 We'll stand at the end.

Speaker 1 No pressure.

Speaker 2 You know, you get our songs and see like, I saw Fleetwood Mac. And it was like the first three songs, like, yeah.
And then the audience just collected was like,

Speaker 2 incredible. And they're like, they got it.
And no questions like, guys, get up. It's Fleetwood Mac.
No, they're like, guys, I love Fleetwood Mac. And I got to last.
I got to last.

Speaker 2 I got to last.

Speaker 1 I got to last.

Speaker 2 Like, I can't stand up for an hour. Like, what am I?

Speaker 2 For an hour. Yeah.
Are we waiting in line for something? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Am I at, you know, my granddaughter's wedding? What's happening?

Speaker 2 They have those things that like wearable seats now. You can just like flip it back and just kind of stand and sit.
Are you serious? Yeah, it's a thing.

Speaker 1 Wearable seats.

Speaker 2 Wearable seats? Yeah. You stay.
There's a whole bit of this. I just watched it.
Silicon Valley did like a whole bit about one of the guys had a wearable seat and people like hated him because of it.

Speaker 1 I would totally love that.

Speaker 2 It's basically like a backpack that it's like literally like, well, it looks like, and he just like kind of flips his butt back and like sits.

Speaker 1 Honestly, if I can get a seat, it changes my whole night if i was at a show and i and i had a seat i'd stay another two hours you know it's coming in your mail tomorrow

Speaker 1 no but i mean but but i i do like as a as a person who goes and watches performances and you know i it's funny comedy and music have an interesting um like we're kind of cousins like i know you guys are big fans of comedy and you're very funny and you've come and done s and l and you have a great sense of humor about yourself and you love funny people And I feel like that happens a lot with comedians.

Speaker 1 Like comedians are like, man, I wish I was a musician.

Speaker 1 Like, I love the, the, the, the feeling. Like, there's just like they, they understand each other sometimes.
Yeah. What is your relationship to comedy? How important was it to you? And like, you know.

Speaker 2 Well, early in our career, we had no traction going on the music yet. This was like 2005 and 2006.

Speaker 2 And YouTube was kind of new and it was a new and exciting way for us to connect with our fans. And

Speaker 2 we were teenagers with a flip camera, whatever that was, and we were just making funny videos. And

Speaker 2 we always like, you know, loved and admired

Speaker 2 great comedic actors and

Speaker 2 I think probably just had a ton of confidence and obviously no like comedic chops.

Speaker 2 But it was enough.

Speaker 2 Specifically, this side of the table, no comedic chops. But we

Speaker 2 really

Speaker 2 used that as a way to promote our music.

Speaker 2 And then eventually when things started to happen with Disney and everything else, you know, it became a lot more structured and there was like writers and all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 And it was like a whole new world for us. But it was, I think, really empowering and exciting was that

Speaker 2 they listened to some of our ideas and allowed us to infuse some of our own voices into the characters that we played and the various projects we did.

Speaker 2 And then so when we, yeah, we got the call to do SNL. The first time we did it was Valentine's Day 2009.

Speaker 2 was wild.

Speaker 2 The host was Alec Baldwin. Alec Baldwin was the host.
He played

Speaker 2 the fifth Jonas Brother in the skip. It was very funny.
Yeah. Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 And how old were you when you when you did that in 2009?

Speaker 2 I was 17. Dang, 17.
20 22. Wow.

Speaker 2 And it was, yeah, it was like

Speaker 2 one of our biggest dreams come true. And there was this really

Speaker 2 wild

Speaker 2 digital short that we did with Andy and the guys.

Speaker 1 I was just listening to, I listened to Lonely Island and Seth Meyers' podcast. They were talking about it today.

Speaker 2 Oh, really? Oh, really? Cool.

Speaker 1 They were talking about it today.

Speaker 1 On the way over here, they were talking about how fun it was to do it with you, how you guys, and it came out of the like stupid songs you guys would make with each other. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 We had an idea of doing some 80s hair metal band called Property of the Queen.

Speaker 2 Great name, by the way. Great name.
Great name. Not a fancy at all.

Speaker 1 Incredible looks in that, in that, uh, in that

Speaker 2 case. And then they built this whole story out of it.

Speaker 1 So fun. Forte was playing guitar with you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's some and I think Bill was like playing a wizard. He played

Speaker 2 the wizard, though. The whole concept, which was the brilliant unlock of it.

Speaker 2 All we had was like a couple of really dumb songs that we wanted to do something with, and this idea to do like an 80s round.

Speaker 2 The wizard. And so Andy was like, so

Speaker 2 what if you guys are like, you know, time travels or vampires or something and Bill is this wizard who's granted you this wish to come back in time to play SNL on Valentine's Day, 2009.

Speaker 2 And I catch you. Yeah, and he catches us in our con.

Speaker 2 It was very funny. Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 2 What was the love song? Our love is like the Great Wall of China? Was that it?

Speaker 2 Our love.

Speaker 2 You can see it from out of space. The Great Wall of China, you can see it from outer space.

Speaker 2 So good. That's so dumb.

Speaker 1 Do you guys make up dumb songs all the time? And when you're, do you sing other people's music?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 What do you sing with each other?

Speaker 2 Like, I have this theory. Yeah.
It's, it's not a controversial one, but it's, it's a litmus test for me of if a song could be a hit. Okay.
And it's if you can spoof it. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, if you can make it anything else. We have with that.
And it works.

Speaker 2 We have a song on a new album called I Can't Lose. It says, I can't lose, but I keep saying, I can't poop.

Speaker 2 And I think it should be a Pepto-Bismo ad or something.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 but the next line is, when I'm with you. So that we'll have to figure that that one out.
Maybe it's like a date. You're on a date and it's awkward.

Speaker 2 They're anxious. I can't answer when I'm with you.
They're on vacation.

Speaker 2 That's so funny. But you're right.
It's specific, actually. On vacation.
Well, yeah, that's a thing that people deal with.

Speaker 1 How do you flip around songs that are out right now? Like, I know what you're talking about. Like,

Speaker 1 when you get into a song and then you start singing it a different way. I mean, you're kind of weird Ale for a better.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I think that that's a sign. He did pick hit songs.

Speaker 1 Do you harmonize to other people's songs when you're together? Like,

Speaker 2 you just want to harm.

Speaker 2 You just want to sing with us, don't you? Yes, because I feel. Okay.

Speaker 2 I am.

Speaker 1 I'm an okay singer. I'm fine.
I'm not good, but I'm a pretty good harmonizer. But

Speaker 1 I feel like I want to challenge myself to see if I can get in and create a fourth part.

Speaker 2 Okay. Love it.

Speaker 1 What should we sing?

Speaker 2 How can you stop the rain from falling down?

Speaker 2 How can you speak?

Speaker 2 That's it. Yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 1 Thanks. It's like a middle, it's a middle part.

Speaker 2 Thanks for the middle part.

Speaker 2 I love that song.

Speaker 1 It's a great song. Great song.
In fact, you're

Speaker 1 sorry, what's the name of the single again? Is it up here, Jenna? No time to talk.

Speaker 2 No time to talk.

Speaker 1 It's in my email.

Speaker 2 Okay, I want to put it in. Oh, you have it in your email.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's so good.

Speaker 1 And it has a

Speaker 2 lot of fun.

Speaker 2 That's what they would do.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 crazy story with this song. Started writing it like seven years ago.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 And just assumed that it would never get cleared by

Speaker 2 VGs and Barry Gibb.

Speaker 2 And finally,

Speaker 2 top of this year, I pulled it back out of the

Speaker 2 vault. And I was like,

Speaker 2 we need to finish this song. Yeah.
This one's special. And so I've teamed up with Julian Minetta, who I started it with.
who worked on a bunch of Spring and Carpenter stuff last year. He's killing it.

Speaker 2 And Steph Jones to help finish the lyrics. And then basically, we sent it to Mr.
Gibb, who had come to shows with his family

Speaker 2 before and

Speaker 2 just been the absolute best company and

Speaker 2 really, you know, supported us early in our career and spent some time with our father and talked about the industry and all this stuff.

Speaker 2 And so we got word back within a couple of days that it was approved and that they were excited about the song. I was like, that's awesome.
We have a collab with the Bee Gees.

Speaker 1 With Barry.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 1 the Bee Gees were really big growing up for me, and they were like very famous brothers who also, like you guys, had good hair.

Speaker 2 Great hair.

Speaker 1 Incredible hair.

Speaker 2 The flow.

Speaker 1 Just incredible hair. And that's very cool that Barry was, he must have been excited about.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's

Speaker 2 your interpolation. Interpolation.
Interpolation. So this, yeah, the song's just come out.
Very excited. It's a really good driving song.

Speaker 2 Off a new album, greetings from your hometown. Oh, they gave you an old edit, too.

Speaker 1 You're listening to this. Is an old edit?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah. Use it.
Yeah, they gave you an exclusive. Well, somebody was like, I can't understand what you're saying, Joe.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I was like, I can understand what I'm saying. And they're like, well,

Speaker 2 we can't. You have to re-record it.
So I had to re-record it.

Speaker 1 And on behalf of people that like short concerts,

Speaker 2 we didn't use it. We stick to the original.

Speaker 2 It must have been off that email.

Speaker 2 it didn't sound as cool as when you were mumbling when you were like

Speaker 2 i'd like to know what you're saying

Speaker 2 because i can't understand it and i want to sing along i'm saying side to side when your hands hung up joe does not know what he's singing

Speaker 2 you throw some babies and o's in there and it like works

Speaker 2 I was just re-listening to Cake by the Ocean the other day, actually.

Speaker 2 And it's also kind of hard to understand what you're saying there, but that worked out just fine. Do you know what you're saying there?

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 maybe that's another sign of a good song. If it's a mumbler, it's a worker.
Well, I think most people don't know.

Speaker 2 I constantly

Speaker 2 will see people in the audience be like, I'm a mumble, mumble, mum, mumble. And they'll just be like, that's usually how it goes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just get to get to there.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 I think that flexibility and being able to pivot and also having a good sense of humor about yourself is why it's like longevity in the business. And I do feel like you.
you all have that.

Speaker 1 You just have to keep pivoting and you have to stay kind of flexible and you have to have a good sense of humor about yourself. Did you learn any of that stuff when you were like young? And because

Speaker 1 a lot of people that come to SNL if they come from having experience at Disney we would always say that what they knew how to do really well was work hard and be professional like it is to be professional is it's a learned skill people don't know how to

Speaker 1 necessarily show up to a set and figure out how to hit their mark and like how to be prepared like those are learned skills and that was always the case with a lot of musicians who came through the show who had that.

Speaker 1 Did you feel like you learned stuff like that there when you were there?

Speaker 2 Definitely. The thing that Disney and working with Disney on camp rock projects or our TV show,

Speaker 2 what it really taught us was work ethic and the ability to be on a set.

Speaker 2 We had never done anything on a film or TV set.

Speaker 2 And it's really good training ground. Now, it doesn't necessarily prepare you for like deep character work, but that's not really what it's there to do.

Speaker 2 It's really fun, entertaining stuff for a certain demographic. And I think, you know, in our,

Speaker 2 maybe in our like late teens, when we were sort of aging out of playing high schoolers and stuff, and then, you know, obviously in our 20s,

Speaker 2 there's that moment where you're kind of embarrassed by it or you're like, oh, man, we're known for this thing.

Speaker 2 Thankfully, we've been able to, you know, make career moves and things where we can look back on that fondly.

Speaker 2 And I think it, it marks a chapter in, you know, our fans' life now who have grown up too, and their kids are being introduced to them.

Speaker 1 And those people, just like the song is for them those people don't want to feel embarrassed about the stuff they used to like and that's the thing is like we all when we were younger like really invested in things at that tender age and we cared about it

Speaker 1 and you guys

Speaker 1 were around for a lot of people's tender ages and now everyone's growing up together and it's like why do we want to go back and be mean to the younger version of ourselves.

Speaker 2 We're just trying to figure it out. Guilty pleasure is a bad word in my house oh why why why two words well yeah

Speaker 2 it's like it's because it's like you should be allowed yeah yeah thanks this is what this is this is an ideal constant

Speaker 2 get them

Speaker 2 uh yes nick it's try to come back from that bro

Speaker 2 like he's literally sweating he's never gonna come back from that you got this eldest here we are it's been fun thanks or with you guilty pleasure is a bad word guilty pleasure is a bad word because it's guilty pleasure is a bad word because the word z

Speaker 2 uh because it literally is defines who you are You could be

Speaker 1 agreeing.

Speaker 2 You should be allowed to like what you love.

Speaker 2 I totally agree. I love it.
I think it's fun to think about when you were a kid, the things that you were into and that you still love. And there was a season where you're like nervous about it.

Speaker 2 We used to go on a school bus with CDs and taped cassettes in our hands. And back then, you'd kind of be shy to show what you're listening to.

Speaker 2 Now it's like through Spotify, you can listen to everything and you're like, it's everywhere, which is nice.

Speaker 2 And it's not like a big deal that you're listening to this style music and that style music. And there's, you know, it goes into other weird things about you too.

Speaker 2 In a totally different context, you know, I was to have this conversation with some people the other day, which is like, it's so hard to get anything made. Totally.
Oh, dude.

Speaker 2 It's so difficult to get anything made, produced, put on a platform of any kind. Yes.
And it just feels like we don't have to

Speaker 2 use a blanket statement like it's objectively excellent. It can just be good to whoever is receiving it.

Speaker 1 You're absolutely right. And also, don't you feel like now that

Speaker 1 you've spent 20 years making things that you really are just, I mean, I find myself being way less, I mean, when you're a teenager in your 20s, there's a lot of black and white, like, I'll always, I'll never, that sucks, that's great.

Speaker 1 You're trying to figure out your taste and who you are.

Speaker 1 But as you get older, you do, and you, and if you, you're lucky enough to make things, you really do feel like, oh, there's something interesting there, and I like how that was made, and I know that was hard, and I can figure out that process, and I understand what they were trying to say there, but maybe it didn't hit there.

Speaker 1 Like, you just understand the complexity of making things. Yeah, it's so different.

Speaker 2 Can I put you in the hot seat for a second? Always. I have a question about

Speaker 2 things that

Speaker 2 you've done, you did, that when you look back on, is there anything you like in the moment, you're like, this is silly, and

Speaker 2 people are laughing, but did it feel like

Speaker 2 this is annoying to be happy doing this bit that they're enjoying, and I'm personally, like, not

Speaker 2 loving it.

Speaker 1 I know what you mean. Like,

Speaker 2 is this me particularly?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, is, yeah, I think like, especially as an actor, you know, you're, you're worried that the way you enter the business will always be the way that you're seen in business.

Speaker 1 And it's like, will I be typecast? Like, I, I remember when I first started, I was doing all these crazy characters.

Speaker 1 Like, I played this young sister of Conan O'Brien on, like, late night with Conan O'Brien. Like, I was like a nut.
And then I would get cast a lot as just this, like,

Speaker 1 you know, really like intense person.

Speaker 1 And then I did a lot of movies and TV shows where I was an intense person with lots of energy, like just kind of forcing people to do things. And I was good at it.
I liked doing it.

Speaker 1 And, but then I would worry sometimes, am I just always playing this kind of person? Like, am I always going to be seen as this way?

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, even just being like a starting in sketch, like it was like, will people just always think of me as this kind of way?

Speaker 1 And just like you said, it started to become less the thing I worried about and more the thing I was just proud of because

Speaker 1 I learned so much from it.

Speaker 1 I got to do so many things because of it. And as long as you believe that you are not limited,

Speaker 1 then you're not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You don't have to, you know, it's basically just like

Speaker 1 other people's opinion is none of your business. Totally.
It just takes a long time to get there, I think.

Speaker 2 Actually, after I did SNL

Speaker 2 one time and

Speaker 2 somebody said to me, it was exactly what I needed to hear. It was one of the writers came and said, hey, just don't try to be funny.

Speaker 2 And I was like, oh, that's, that like hurts in the moment. But then it's like, but that's so accurate.

Speaker 2 It's funny. Right.
So you don't have to jam it to be funny. And it was like so freeing.
And then I stopped worrying about like, am I being silly or am I being this? I'm just, you know,

Speaker 2 saying the words that are already funny.

Speaker 1 That's the vibe I get from you guys is your confidence in just like goofing around and being funny. And I mean,

Speaker 1 it is, it is. It's just when you get out of your own head and you're just, but it takes some time, I think.
I think

Speaker 1 that's what comes with age.

Speaker 2 Well, you're in my favorite movie ever. You know that.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Our favorite. Actually, if he talks about it, they talk about it.
It's a frame poster that Nick has in his bath.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to talk to you about something. So we do this thing at the beginning of each podcast where we talk to people who know our guest and we kind of talk well behind their backs.

Speaker 1 And we, and I, and I get to know the guest a little bit and I kind of prep for the guest with someone who knows them. So I talked to Jack Jack McBray.

Speaker 2 Okay, I was about to say, ah, love Jack. He texted me yesterday.
Loved him.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Yeah.
And he's, you know,

Speaker 2 I have a lot of friends.

Speaker 2 I use a lot of friends, but there's only one Jack that sends a birthday video to you every year, no matter what. No matter what.
On your birthday.

Speaker 2 And it's like, I have like people I see like every day that don't do that.

Speaker 1 He, in fact, when we were talking, he said, I only have one birthday today. And I realized, like, this is a full-time job to keep up with everybody.

Speaker 2 He's a, he's a, it's a thing.

Speaker 1 And people should know:

Speaker 2 we have the same birthday. We have the same birthday.

Speaker 1 September 16th.

Speaker 1 Same year. Molly Shannon, same year.

Speaker 2 Molly Shannon also has the same birthday. That's right.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 You know, I set up her Instagram.

Speaker 1 That's amazing.

Speaker 2 This is a real story. That's so bizarre.
That's the great story. We were at Sundance Film Festival in 2016 or 17.
And we ended up at this bar. We're like having a few drinks talking.

Speaker 2 She's like, my daughter really thinks I should get on Instagram.

Speaker 2 Do you know how to do it? I was like, yeah, give me your phone. And so I set up her thing, and it's like the official superstars, her name.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because we were like a few drinks and just like, what should we say your name is?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I set up my

Speaker 2 and he still runs it. And he has the password still.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 She'll text him photos and videos and say, hey, Nick, can you get this up in the next hour?

Speaker 1 And Nick's like, I have two shows today. Like, I don't have time for this.

Speaker 2 Damn it, Nick, get it up now.

Speaker 1 So Jack is such, like, just loves you guys so much. And,

Speaker 1 and Jack and I laughed because during deep COVID, when no one was going out and everybody was wearing gloves and masks and meeting each other in the driveway, Jack came to my house to have me sign a They Came Together poster for you

Speaker 2 because he said it was a single thing.

Speaker 2 Also, like, it's not like I'm, this isn't like a bit. Like, it's legit.

Speaker 2 It brings me the most joy of it. I love that movie.

Speaker 1 For people who don't know, Paul Rudd and I did a movie that David Wayne directed. So good.
That Michael Schowalter and David Wayne wrote was a parody of a rom-com.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it's brilliant. Like, it's, I did a movie with Paul last year, which comes out either this, later this year or next year.

Speaker 2 And I, the first day on set, I was like, I have to like just ask you how this happened. What's the story? And he kind of gave me the lowdown.

Speaker 2 It was a table read or something that then, you know, you guys did the movie. But my point about it is like, it's not just one of those like hilarious, quotable movies.
It's really smart.

Speaker 2 And it makes it. I feel like it's a lot of the comedy that Tim Robinson's doing now, too.
Yeah, like it's sort of a part of its time. It's so good.
And I do have the signed poster.

Speaker 2 And Jack didn't remember that he was in the movie.

Speaker 2 And then we're at a friend's house. We're actually at hilarious.
At Glenn Powell's house with Corey.

Speaker 1 I've heard you guys are friends with Glenn Powell.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I'm like, have you guys ever seen They Came Together? And everyone's like, no,

Speaker 2 let's watch it. And Jack's like, oh, I'm in this movie.

Speaker 2 No, was that real or was that a jackpit? No, I think he legit forgot that he was in the movie. He's super famous.

Speaker 1 He works a lot. And he was in, like, playing basketball.
He might have forgotten.

Speaker 2 That scene is so good.

Speaker 1 There's a hilarious scene in the movie where it's just,

Speaker 1 you know, it's that moment in every movie where the men are just trying to figure things out.

Speaker 2 Over again. And they each represent like a different point of view.

Speaker 2 Unmarried guy.

Speaker 2 I think you should just stay. Swish.

Speaker 2 Swish.

Speaker 1 They're basically

Speaker 1 talking about dating, and they're just like speaking,

Speaker 1 you know, just saying their exposition out loud. Now, I'm the guy that doesn't think you should commit, and they're playing terrible basketball.

Speaker 2 It's so good. My other favorite scene is when you guys are sitting in the coffee shop, and

Speaker 2 he's like, all right, I'm really just on the phone, and you're like, let me try, and you can't do it.

Speaker 2 When you're ordering the coffee, that's the long thing.

Speaker 2 He remembers your order.

Speaker 2 Do you want to get a month with key?

Speaker 2 I know the whole movie.

Speaker 2 It's so good. Wait up, wouldn't you? That's my favorite favorite thing.
Wait up. Hey, big brother, slow down.
Max Greenfield's so good.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Jack had a question, which is,

Speaker 1 which is so cute. And so, Jack, but his question was: what are y'all's conflict style? Like,

Speaker 1 how do you figure out arguments? Like, how do you

Speaker 1 argue?

Speaker 1 Some people like to

Speaker 1 withdraw, some people like to tease, some people like to argue. Like, how do you, what is your conflict style?

Speaker 2 It's interesting. I feel like it it ends up being

Speaker 2 it's some combination of two people are fighting. The other is just like sitting back, watching and observing.
That's usually how it is.

Speaker 2 Or mediating. Playing referee or mediating.
Or it's just like, go off. Like, do your thing.
Get off. Get to figure it out.

Speaker 1 Is anyone a yeller?

Speaker 2 God, none of us are really yellers.

Speaker 2 We can be like

Speaker 2 defensive, reactive.

Speaker 1 Anyone a punisher, like a silent treatment person?

Speaker 2 Nick, a bit.

Speaker 2 A little bit, yeah. it turns i think that's sort of like a maybe i'm i think you're just trying to work through it

Speaker 2 yeah not like i'm not doing it on purpose yeah you're just like i'm gonna go over here and work and then i'll come back yeah and we'll talk through it yeah and i'm reactive oh i've always been that way i try to work on it all eldest it's hard it's my life you know um

Speaker 2 it's my struggle it's my struggle

Speaker 2 so reactive thanks bonjo reactive like i i just snap back and i don't always mean what i'm well you have a tough job it's very hard thank thank you i appreciate talking to you so much. It's so nice.

Speaker 2 I think we can understand. No, I work on it.
It's hard. But I also have a very anticipatory anxiety about things.
Big word.

Speaker 2 You're killing it on the words. Yeah, you're all over the map.

Speaker 1 I'm right.

Speaker 2 So you're thinking ahead.

Speaker 1 That's because I would argue you're thinking ahead of like, you're just wanting to make sure like I'm going to future trip so I can be safe in the future.

Speaker 2 That's exactly right. And I also

Speaker 2 think through it in the negative.

Speaker 1 Okay. Because like a little bit of a catastrophizer.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's about what would happen if I said this and they're going to react this way and then I go this way.
It's like, it's that.

Speaker 2 So I'm dealing with it sometimes. I love that.

Speaker 2 You're a joy.

Speaker 2 The character. Yeah.
I'm literally just, I'm like, you're saying this. I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 2 Your joy.

Speaker 2 It's like, this is a script.

Speaker 2 Are you reading a script right now?

Speaker 2 No, it's the whole way you wrote that down, like to protect yourself. I'm like, this is the plot for Inside Out 2.
It's true. It's so good.
So Joe.

Speaker 2 This is so good. And Inside Out 2 is inside.

Speaker 2 I watched it with my daughter, and we're both crying for different reasons. And so Inside Outway is like, you're in all my favorite movies, including my Subway commercials that I love.

Speaker 1 Thanks. Well, thanks.
Let's give a shout out to Subway while we can, and we'd love for them to give us a shot.

Speaker 2 I literally heard it this morning. Subway as in the same one? I was saying, yeah.
I am

Speaker 2 in the New York Subway. I heard it.

Speaker 2 New York City Treasury.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to get the New York Subway up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Give it a little bit of a little notoriety. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I heard you this morning as I got out of the shower. I was like, I'm going to see her later.

Speaker 1 But there is something about, I have two sons. I think that relationship with brothers is really, like,

Speaker 1 really beautiful and cool because exactly what we saw, we just see like in this hour is the way you gently tease each other, the way you kind of keep each other.

Speaker 2 We got there. I think, oh, sorry.
Yeah, no, please. Just say we had a superstar mom, too.
So that we still do, but we.

Speaker 1 Okay, what did she do?

Speaker 2 She, I mean, four boys in one home. She was the boss, you know, there's just and and also understanding how to be nice guys

Speaker 2 to women and uh

Speaker 2 growing up just like I think we we needed a loud voice like her to be able to control us and also make sure that we weren't like piece of shit.

Speaker 2 So I think that was important, but I think also like yeah, brothers are boys are so different than girls.

Speaker 2 It's like I watch

Speaker 2 like I'll watch my kids on the playground and I'm like, it's like delicate. And then this kid will be like, and there's a

Speaker 2 dive off the top of a slide. And you're just like, that is a boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, your frontal lobes close later.

Speaker 2 I mean, I was just going to say that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 His child workout.

Speaker 1 But, but, yeah, I mean, what is the best? I mean, I know you've been asked this a million times. It is, and it, what is the best thing about working with your brother?

Speaker 1 Like, being brothers, working together, what is the best part of it?

Speaker 2 There is a built-in safety net that

Speaker 2 it's not to say you can't develop with friends and coworkers and all that,

Speaker 2 but they need nothing from me. I need nothing from them but just real connection and love and respect.
And

Speaker 2 we're family, like we're blood. So it's just it hits different.
It makes every

Speaker 2 high super high. It makes every low a little easier to to navigate.
And

Speaker 2 the mundane stuff in between becomes even more fun because you get to do it with two people that you not only love and respect, but you genuinely have a good time with. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, so that's, that's my feeling.

Speaker 1 That's nice. I mean, I'm the same way.
Like, I'd like to

Speaker 1 fail or succeed with someone.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It is amazing.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 last question.

Speaker 1 What are you guys listening to, watching, reading, playing that makes you laugh these days in these like very difficult times where life is pretty rough and the world is um

Speaker 1 uh hanging on by a thread yeah what do you what do you do to to like check out or laugh or make yourself

Speaker 2 i really enjoyed the four seasons show

Speaker 1 um i interviewed will forte um on this pod which uh and um

Speaker 2 tina i think they're like i love watching them together okay yeah it was great

Speaker 2 um so like cozy cozy shows yeah that's not comedy always my i mean i love the studio i thought that was so funny was great so funny funny and so good the last two episodes were i mean cute ridiculous the cast is insane the cast is

Speaker 2 another level oh my gosh character so great is incredible too i i've just been like i restarted watching all of nathan for you because i watched i hit the rehearsal which i think is just so brilliant yeah and messed up and insane yeah and he finds the most interesting people It's just so great.

Speaker 2 Did you watch the new season?

Speaker 1 Of rehearsal? I'm watching it right now, the second season. Okay, so I'm the woman that that talks about it gets me very stressed oh good question

Speaker 1 um yeah i i have

Speaker 2 it's just there's like a mirror neuron thing where i get like very nervous he just will keep asking questions and he knows what he's up to and i was at a restaurant restaurant recently and he

Speaker 2 i saw him and i i when i see somebody that i really like i think i love their work i don't want to say hi but i'll like maybe can i send their drink or maybe just whatever they're eating and whatever can i send something and i don't need to say hi i'll sometimes try to leave before.

Speaker 2 And I saw him was like, oh my God, like I love him. I have to, like, I'm going to send him.
I sent him a drink, him and his friend. And about 30 minutes later,

Speaker 2 the waiter brought over a dollop of mayonnaise and handed it to me. And they're like, this is from Nathan.
And I look over and he goes.

Speaker 2 And he goes back to this. And my friends are laughing so hard.
I'm like, guys, he wants, don't laugh. He wants it so bad.
And he was really kind of. And he walked over.
He's like, did you get my gift?

Speaker 2 The waiter said that she went to the chef and was like, she's like, I think I may have put my job on the line because

Speaker 2 I asked for a double mat and the chef was so mad. It's a pretty nice restaurant, was so mad.
She's like, please, please. She's like, but I think both of you are really great.

Speaker 2 And I just was like, this will be a story I can use forever.

Speaker 2 She did it. She did that.

Speaker 1 I'm glad she, I mean, have we learned nothing from the bear? We need to give the customer what they want.

Speaker 2 Correct. Exactly.
Exactly. Yes, chef.

Speaker 1 Yes, chef. And what about you, Kev?

Speaker 2 What do you mean? I am currently, me and my wife, we go through like long-form like sitcoms that have like 900 seasons. We just start it as like feel good.

Speaker 2 So we're in the middle of Big Bang Theory again.

Speaker 1 Just so good. Love a rewatch.
A simple rewatch.

Speaker 2 It's a simple rewatch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm going to let you guys go.
You have to go to the next one. This was so good.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much for having us. Thank you so much.
That was really, really fun. I love it.

Speaker 2 It was just a blast.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much for doing it.

Speaker 2 What a good hang.

Speaker 1 It was a good hang. And thank you for singing with me.
And I feel refreshed. Put that out as a single and you just

Speaker 2 talk to your people about it. All right.
Thanks, guys. Thank you.
Bye. Bye.

Speaker 1 Bye.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Jonas Brothers. That was so great.
Kevin, Joe, Nick, thank you for being here on a two-show day

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 letting us hang with you and watching you hang with each other.

Speaker 1 You guys are a lot of fun, and I really enjoyed this episode. And now it's time for the special part of the show, the Polar Plunge.

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We talked about

Speaker 1 music and going to shows. And I just want to say again, if you're an artist putting your set list together, cut it in half.
We want the show to be shorter.

Speaker 1 Yes, there are great artists who have three-hour bodies of work that we should go and see and support. But for the most part, my favorite show is a fast one.
You know what I loved?

Speaker 1 I went to the Hollywood Bowl a couple years ago in Los Angeles. I saw Billy Joel.
The show was an hour and a half. We all sat down the entire time.

Speaker 1 And I sang all of his lyrics because he's easy to understand. So thank you, Billy.

Speaker 1 Thank you to everybody who sat down. Let's just get that, let's normalize sitting down during shows.
And thank you, Jonas Brothers, for

Speaker 1 all the shows you're going to perform all over the world. Good luck on your tour.

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Speaker 1 You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me, Amy Poehler.
The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite.

Speaker 1 For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spilane, Kaya McMullen, and Aalaya Zanares. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman.
Original music by Amy Miles.

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