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Episode two of Good Morning Gus.

Good morning, Gus.

Good morning, Gus.

That's me, I'm Gus.

It's a little walk and talk.

Yeah.

So we're in the Concord Center.

I had no idea that's what this was called.

I just happened to look up the center.

I lived here and I didn't know that's what it was called.

It's a little like shopping strip mall thing that's squat off of airport in like 46.

Yeah.

Yeah, I used to come here to buy Dickey's.

That's the

today's style of

when I was like a young punk kid.

Still here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They would have like

they would have like the one pair of blue old school vans tennis shoes that I would get every time mine wore out and then they would have dickies.

Yeah.

I have to ask a question before we get too far into this.

Why do we come to the same coffee shop again?

Dude, I was trying to explain that to Emily this morning and she's like, she didn't understand it and then I realized it's because I didn't understand it.

I don't know.

It's a different location

of figure eight coffee.

Yeah, Yeah, but you have to see if it's just as good.

I'm having the exact same cup of coffee I had last week.

See, but that's really good to know.

Is it that important?

What if it's consistency?

What if it was dissimilar, Gus?

It's good, it's great.

Imagine if we were doing this and it was dissimilar and how you'd be like, I'm so glad we did this so that way now the people know.

So which Starbucks are we going to start with?

Yeah, so for some reason, episode one of Good Morning Gus, we went to Figure 8 Coffee on

Chacone Street.

And now for episode 2 of Good Morning Gus, we've gone to Figure 8 Coffee on Airport Boulevard.

It's true.

In the Concord Center.

Next to the Bodega.

Yep.

Whatever that is.

Really, martial arts place.

Yeah.

We're in Lickerland.

Using the same mics as last time.

Hopefully the audio is a little better this time.

It was a little bit of an experiment.

Yeah.

It was the first time using those mics and

it didn't work out great.

Yeah.

Hopefully this one's working out a little better.

I like a pretty style split here.

Of course it is.

Absolutely.

So everyone needs to get dickies.

That's where you gotta get your work clothes.

Yeah.

It's like every poster in the window is dickies.

Yeah.

So the great thing about these mics is they're like loves, so we can just clip them on and walk around, which is what we're doing.

Yeah.

We should walk down here in the street and go around because this is the alley.

You guys did that once for one of the supplementary non-canonical episodes.

I thought that was great.

Yeah, we went record shopping.

Yeah, and then and then Gus got jealous and then said, I want to do that.

Gus want walk too.

Yeah.

So that's actually what we're doing.

We're walking and having a cup of coffee.

You want to walk to InN Out?

Yeah, that's fine.

Get a little burger at 9.30 in the morning.

Maybe we'll do that.

That's how we'll celebrate a a successful podcast.

Let's look at Lef and go to the next one.

When are we going to have one of those?

Yeah, for sure.

One day.

At the end.

Yep.

Whatever the end is.

What do you guys want to talk about today?

This is the standard small talk go-to, right?

Okay.

Last week I talked about how great the summer's been.

Yeah.

Amazing.

And then the week between then and now has been...

maybe the weirdest week of summer in Austin ever.

Yeah.

Oh, it's nuts.

Where it rained almost every day.

And I don't think it got above 90 degrees any of the days.

The high was 89 all week.

Yeah, crazy.

It's been awesome.

I love it.

Yeah, I love it.

But man, it's like, this is the last week of July?

This is like when summer should be ramping up.

It should be like 105 outside.

I swear to God, it's like the city of Austin recognized that you and I were like

one foot out the door.

And when we were like, no, no, no, no, we can still do a cool summer.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can change.

I can change.

Remember 2008?

That was great.

Come on, come on back.

Was 2008 a good summer?

I don't know.

It was a terrible year for America, but hopefully it was a good summer for Austin.

That was the house I lived in.

You lived here?

Oh, is this your old house right here?

We did not have a wire fence in the front.

Like, all that's different and everything.

How long did you live here for?

A year.

Did you like it?

It was fine.

Like, the location was fine.

They got a car that looks like yours.

They do.

I was paying too much in rent to live here.

Like, the area, like, there's some walkable stuff, but not really much.

Yeah.

And then when the year lease was up, we were like, oh, well, let's go like month to month.

There's a dog.

There's a dog in that truck.

Yeah.

We're like, oh, let's go month to month.

And the landlord went, oh, no, we only do year leases.

And I went, on the lease, it says we can go month to month.

And they said, yeah, we can see why you'd be confused by that.

So

we do a year lease and we're like, all right, so I guess this is our 60-day notice.

For some reason, I always thought you lived in these apartments over here.

Oh, wow.

That's fun.

I've never lived like in an apartment apartment.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

I've never lived like second floor apartment.

What I've never, just never lived in apartment.

How many have you lived in?

I don't know a lot.

Oh, really?

One,

two, in Austin.

Three,

four.

Jesus.

I've lived in four different apartment complexes, I think, since I've lived in Austin.

Wow.

It's so funny you say that.

I've

only lived in two apartments in my life.

I never thought about that.

Yeah.

It's just I think it's a normal thing.

Like I lived like in a little like condo building thing where it was sort of like apartments, but it was not.

It was like on a a fourplex, but it was like a four-point plexus.

Yeah, yeah, it's that.

Yeah, that it wasn't like this.

And I don't count that

little apartment complex over on Infield I lived in for a while because it wasn't like I wouldn't count that apartment apartment.

I wouldn't count that.

Those are, yeah,

absolutely.

I love this format of the walk-in tile.

We're getting steps in.

Yeah.

I'm feeling good.

Yeah, do you want power walk?

Yeah, Gus.

You guys can't see Gus is lifting his knees so high.

Can he put a head?

I'm going to feel that tomorrow.

I just did a Soul All Right episode about the amount of times you do a thing in a day because I read somewhere that the average human makes 33 to 35,000 decisions in a day.

And so I was like, what the fuck else do we do?

What do we do that's that much, right?

I went through like heartbeats and breathing and eye blinking and all that shit.

But

what the fuck are we talking about?

I just got myself confused.

Power walking?

Oh, but the average person, do you know how much the average person walks in a day?

Oh, it depends.

You're supposed to do 10,000 steps.

Yeah.

Now, do you mean average American or average person?

Average American.

Oh,

1,300 steps, probably.

It's not quite that bad.

I would say 4,000.

It's like 3,000.

Yeah.

The average American walks like three, somewhere around 3,000 steps a day, which seems like so little.

It is.

It definitely is.

You know, you just said that you're supposed to walk like 10,000 steps a day.

You know, that's bullshit, right?

Yeah, it's completely made up.

It's an arbitrary thing.

It was like the dude who invented like the first digital pedometer was in Japan.

Yeah.

And he thought thought the Japanese character for 10,000 looks like a man walking.

So he thought, wow, that would be that's the metric.

No way.

So that's why people say 10,000 steps because in

Japanese, the character for 10,000 looks like a dude walking.

I read that during the pandemic.

It's, yeah, there's no science behind it.

Although it turns out to be a pretty good figure, arbitrarily.

But yeah, it was just.

How crazy.

I started walking, trying to just get like 10,000 every day, like recently.

Yeah.

And it's been like, it's nice.

I walk the dog and you're like, oh, there's 2,500 knocked out.

And then you do other stuff.

And then you're like, oh, okay, just my average day of stuff is like 20, like another 2,500 steps.

And the rest is like, I'll get on the treadmill or I'll go outside or whatever.

It's great.

Like, it's, it's nice to be.

active when you don't have anywhere to go.

Yeah.

Well, it's also, again, going back to what we talked about earlier, it's nice doing it this summer and this time of year.

That's awesome.

It's so normally it's just like walking out into an oven.

Yeah, because like I have a bulldog who loves to go for walks, but he can't be outside for more than like five minutes when it's over 90 degrees.

So it's not good for him.

See this right here?

Yeah.

Lazarus?

Uh-huh.

It used to be.

Is your iLove video?

Yeah, it did.

I think part of the sign is over there by Barflies, right?

Wasn't it Cold Town Theater for a while too?

Mm-hmm.

So Cold Town was attached to the side of it or whatever, like the inside of it.

And so it all went defunct and went under because we would walk over here.

Like the few times I went to iHeart Video, I would like walk in and be like, this is a classic Austin.

I look around and go, I don't want to rent a fucking DVD.

But it was cool to like walk around.

I think in a previous episode, I may have talked about getting a Blockbuster card once in the 90s just to take it to I Love Video to get a cart there for free.

It was this location I came to.

Oh, really?

Oh, that's so cool.

I got the Blockbuster card from the Blockbuster on River Street.

You actually walked down here.

I haven't been to this live service, so I just want to see it.

In Austin, you were either an I Love Video person or a Vulcan video person.

And I was a Vulcan guy.

I think I was actually more of a Vulcan guy, too.

Just I realized one day I didn't have an I Love Video card.

And I was like, that seems wrong.

So I went, I made an appointment to get one.

I definitely came to I Love Video on occasion, but I was just a Vulcan guy.

It was closer to where I lived.

I guess.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Lance Hahn, the lead singer of J Church, which is one of my all-time favorite bands, he worked at the Vulcan Video on South Congress up until he died.

So that was a whole thing for me.

That's one of the things I was going to bring up was that it was so different back then that there was a Vulcan video, which was the same kind of business on South Congress.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

And that's where you would go to buy videos.

The video rental store was just like right around the corner from now where the Hermes store is.

Yeah, yeah, right.

And a guy that would check you out would be the lead singer of a major indie punk band.

Dude, all these places are like brand new.

Well, they don't look like they've been here very long.

No,

these are brand new, brand new.

Like, nothing has been

this side of the.

These are all definitely like Airbnbs.

So Rooster Teeth RIP has

some connections to Cold Town Theater, more than a Lazarus that I know, but definitely had some ties to Cold Town.

What was that?

Some of the people, I don't know who,

was Asaf in charge of Cold Town or was he just a part of it?

I think he was just a part of it.

I don't know that he was in charge necessarily.

Some of the guys like Pimo and Asaf and

the guy who Gavin made out with Tom, who were all really big into

the improv scene in Austin.

They were all a big part of Cold Town.

I think even Shannon probably was involved in it.

Oh, definitely.

So a lot of the people that did

voice acting in RVB in like season five to eight, nine, a lot of those people were involved in Coltown.

And if you ever hear us talk about like when we did improv training those couple of times, it was all people from Coltown.

Yeah, those are the guys that trained us.

And we actually knew Asop and Pimo

from the Machinima days back in New York.

Whoa.

One of the guys that was involved used to run the Machinima Academy of Arts Arts and Sciences, and is the person who told us that Red vs.

Blue is Machinima.

Oh, how crazy.

Let's have a seat.

Yeah, that's the.

We just found a smart.

You found like a courtyard.

Yeah.

I've never been to this place.

I haven't.

I haven't either.

I might come back.

This place is huge.

The fucking tacos at the Lazarus on East 6th are great.

Yeah.

Eat there all the time.

It was.

That place is great.

It's great to get a cup of coffee and it's great to...

It's hard to park.

Great to get a park.

Oh, man.

Welcome to 6th.

Yeah, fucking rough.

That's why I start at Violet Crown and I just walk all the way down because that's the only place where I can park and I know offline parking.

We knew a dude who lived like right down, like the next block over or two blocks over.

And we came to a party at his house one time.

We came to more than a party at his house.

He was like, he was like a daily hangout.

Yeah, yeah, but I mean like that was like that's like the one memory

place

back over here.

What do you remember about that party?

I think I discovered Tom Collins at that party.

Whoa.

Was that a blackout drunk party?

Yeah, that was.

That was totally funny.

Oh, wow, really?

Yeah.

Did you find that you liked Tom Collins?

Yeah,

it goes down smooth.

I started drinking Tom Collins.

Tom Collins was the first mixed drink I ever drank.

Oh, really?

Maybe not the very first.

I think the very first mixed drink I ever had was a

martini.

Yeah.

Like when I turned 21.

But I started ordering Tom Collins.

purely because I when I turned 21 my favorite movie on earth was bottle rocket and I watched it twice a week.

And that's what Digman always ordered at the beginning of the movie for Tom Collins.

I didn't know what it was.

I just wanted to order it because he ordered it.

And I just started drinking them.

And I thought it was just like a normal drink that everybody drank.

I didn't realize that bartenders were like, what?

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah.

It's like a headache, yeah.

I just pulled out the timer so I knew

kind of where we were at.

What I can tell you is that since the last time we recorded it, it's been 155 hours, 55 minutes, and 25 seconds.

Oh, you should probably reset that.

Oh, hang on.

There we go.

Yeah, I think we've been going for about 15 minutes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's very funny.

We talked about that dude who lived over here.

Yeah.

Who told another story about it was his girlfriend we introduced Jason to that one time.

We said, oh, this is poop.

And she was like, oh, that's sad.

It was his girlfriend.

Oh,

I've heard that story.

It was the most

honest moment a human being could have.

I mean, it was so

funny, it left an indelible mark.

I'll remember that the day I died.

That's really fucking funny.

That's awesome.

That dude was so cool.

I liked him so much.

Uh-huh.

But he, but nothing.

Oh, okay.

He's still cool, and I still like him.

We don't see him anymore.

We haven't seen him.

We saw him once.

We got a copy with him once a few years ago.

Right.

Probably seen him once in 20 years, 15 years.

But

really talented musician.

Little good drummer.

Yeah, had a very

successful career with that or a very successful run of that.

He did.

He used to do session drumming.

He even drummed for the ghetto boys.

No shit.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's cool.

We were listening to clips all the way here.

We were at Lazarus, and it just, I figured there was like, oh, there's no one here because a brewery.

I didn't think about how they have.

tacos tacos and coffee they have coffee we should come back here and do an episode also we've already been here though what do they have another location oh

yeah we got the one on six we got to the other one yeah but we haven't yeah we haven't we haven't had the coffee guys.

We've had coffee here.

I've had the coffee here a million times.

It's good.

Yeah, but you haven't had it on the show with your friend Gus.

That's kind of the whole point of the show, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The whole point of the show is getting together with Gus.

How did you guys feel after doing the first episode?

It felt like we stopped, really.

It just started back on.

Let's turn it back on.

Like we didn't miss a beat at all.

Almost like we've been doing this together for 20 years.

It's also like the only way we hang out.

Yeah, that's true,

the only way we communicate, even though our texting is very sparse, and it's normally related to organizing.

How about this?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think that little chat group's even called Anma.

That's all it is.

It is.

I'm not going to change the name.

It's easy to find Anma.

Four letters.

Boom, boom, boom.

Throw it in there.

So we need to get chalk.

Yeah, that'll be easy.

Okay, so we should talk about that, maybe.

So we had a big idea.

We talked about it on the last episode, where we're going to section off.

You soaked yourself.

Yeah.

Just section off a part of a tire, and whoever's part, whoever's section is touching the ground the most pays for the coffee.

So we met up at the 100% eat space, grabbed some duct tape, threw it on the tire.

Gus wrote out the name so that way we knew the sections.

We're like, this is great now because the chalk won't have to like, you won't have to drive around with this shit on your tire all the time or whatever.

Chalk's so hard to get out.

In San Antonio, you get arrested for it.

So we don't, you know, oh, it's scary.

But we put the tape on, boom.

Check out the video that we shot, the big reveal, where we walk over, don't look, don't look, don't look.

Okay, one, two, three.

All the tape's gone.

Oh,

that's gone.

100% gone.

I think I even commented before where I was like, the tape might fall off.

I didn't think it was all going to fall.

I thought we might lose APs.

I didn't think any of it was going to fall off.

It's duct tape.

It's duct tape.

It's what it does.

I was in the army for five years.

The military ran on duct tape.

Yeah, dude.

But now we know duct tape's weakness.

Yeah, tires yeah well good ideas yeah yeah

it's probably all the dirt and the shit you get on your tire yeah it just like didn't let it get a good energy okay then we should do it with esther's car yeah that car is really really clean yeah that's true it is very clean

i guess that's true duct tape exists to prop up bad ideas not facilitate good ones it's true yeah it's true you know tires are like overwhelmingly the number one source of microplastics is that right yeah all of the plastic in your body is for tires.

But it's rubber.

But yeah, it's all like that material, all that shit that breaks off.

It's all the other fuck in it.

So all my cum is filled with microplastic because I've been chewing on tires.

You got tires in your balls.

So higher.

Kind of like a Michelin man.

Whoa.

What does that mean?

You're fat?

I'm made out of the.

He's a big tire man.

He's a big Michelin man.

He's a big tire man.

He's a big white, looking like a slug tire guy.

You think he looks like a slug?

The Michigan man?

That's why I think he looks like a slug.

He's a big Michigan

man.

That's the title of the episode.

That's me, I'm the Michigan Man.

You get a new tire, and

it wears down, the tread goes away.

Like, where does it go?

In your lungs.

Yeah, that is.

It goes right into you.

And that makes sense.

It's like it doesn't just fucking evaporate out into space and go away.

No.

I think this guy over here could probably use a new tire.

Looks like it might be a little bald.

Hard to see.

No.

I definitely need new tires because I keep getting mine from a used tire place where the guy only speaks Spanish and he's trying to sell me on more tires.

And I'm like, I'm like, you're not taking me for a ride on this one, but

I need to get some more.

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Mrs.

Johnson's bakery?

Yeah, right up the road over here.

You guys go to that a lot or what?

I used to before the new guy bought it.

Okay, so talking about that guy,

is it the new guy or now the new new guy?

Is there a new new guy?

I'll go back if there's a new new guy.

And then they were dog shit for a while, and then they closed down again, I think, and now they're back again.

I don't know if it's the same people.

Oh, I didn't realize.

I didn't realize they were back.

I thought they were closing.

I think they are back.

Okay.

I could be wrong.

Yeah, Mrs.

Johnson's used to be like

a fucking staple.

As a matter of fact, I think Bernie Burns

took me there for the very first time, like maybe the week I met him.

Oh, really?

Like, hey, it was awesome.

You got to check out an Austin thing.

Yeah.

I used to go at like 9 p.m.

when the fresh donuts were out.

I think Mrs.

Johnson's original, if I remember correctly, opened like either in the 40s or the 50s.

You know, Mrs.

Johnson ran it for a long time.

And I want to say sometime in either the late 80s or early 90s,

she sold it to like one of her employees like a dude who worked there yeah and he took over and just kept the mrs johnson's name and he ran it probably until probably until the pandemic 2020 or so uh-huh uh then he closed down then that's when the new people took over yeah there there's definitely like a new

like they built like a

like an outdoor i think there's like a little outdoor thing there yeah now or some kind of sign or something stuff is different before it looked run down and old because it was all the old stuff.

Uh-huh.

It was legit.

And because all the work went into the the donuts.

Right.

And it was good.

And then they replaced the sign, and I was like, ooh, I don't know.

It's a new sign that's fashioned to look retro and kitschy and old.

Yeah.

It's like, ooh, I don't know.

The old sign was legit old.

The new sign is faux old.

I don't know how I feel about that.

But when was the last time you guys went there?

I haven't been there since the new people.

I went maybe like a month after the new people took over and had a pretty mediocre to like we don't need to go back experience.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's uh, that's how I feel about Tyson's tacos.

I've never liked Tyson's tacos.

It's that that's that's who bought it.

The Tyson's Tacos?

What?

Yeah, that's who bought Mrs.

Johnson's.

Oh, I didn't like it.

Because they tried across the street from it.

Yeah, Tyson's bought Mrs.

Johnson's.

I don't know if they still own it anymore.

Apparently, they may have changed the hands.

I don't know.

Maybe they still do that.

Those people.

I just do you

know we have a friend who fucking loves Tyson's tacos.

Oh, yeah.

Is it Bernie?

No.

TPG.

In that vein.

TPG loves Tyson's tacos.

You fuck with Tyson's?

Whoa, whoa, what?

I used to live, again, right over here, and this is all walking distance.

And you have a dog.

Yeah,

and it was like, oh, this is serendipitous.

And we ate there once, and I'm like,

this is okay.

Like, it's fine.

I'll go there with other people to get kind of like the chips and queso and like my taco and be like, ah, this is fine.

You know, it's like, it's a thing.

We ate there a second time.

We got, I mean, this is a little two-bedroom house that we lived in, in, one bathroom, whatever.

The worst food poisoning, both of us at the same time, fucking brutal.

It was like, I'm not going to eat here anymore.

It was really bad.

And then, all that fucking, like, then he came out and it was like, hey, I'm like a weird racist.

Yeah, but then he was like, no, it's okay.

My wife's from Mexico.

Yeah.

I was like, I don't know.

Is he a weird racist?

Yeah, that's why I had him go there.

And that's why I didn't go to Mrs.

Jackson's.

Oh, I didn't go to that.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, no.

It's like he's doing like a J.D.

Vance thing where it's like okay for some of them right bud hey right guys hey

um

the other so you talk about i'm glad my taste buds were on to something yeah dude it's just not for all the stuff that's like around here or whatever i could go another block up and get tacos from like the little truck in the parking lot or whatever you just got rid of where'd y'all go to for tacos right now It really depends.

I would say the standard is probably like Veracruz.

Veracruz, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, for a breakfast taco especially, like, that's like the spot.

But, dude, it really is hard to beat a gas station breakfast taco that is close to your house that you can just dip into, get the worst cup of coffee and three tacos, and just house them in the car.

You know what's surprisingly good?

Rudy's breakfast tacos.

Really?

Yeah, you wouldn't think it, but it's like they got them all sitting out there under the heat lamp.

You just pick one up.

It's like, it's like two bucks or whatever.

This is pretty solid.

Damn.

No, no gourmet shit or something.

No, no, no, no.

I think Veracruz is definitely the best, but I've been taking a break from them because I hit Veracruz so fucking hard last year.

So I've been going to Nueva Leone, and they're they're really good.

Oh, that's cool.

New Lion.

Thanks, man.

I have been addicted to the happy hour special at Daynata lately.

Oh, right.

They're almost, I would say probably three days a week.

You get Krispy Tacos.

They're a little Krispy Cheese tacos.

You let me know.

Can you let me know when you want to go again, and I will meet you there.

Yeah, dude, I'm there.

I seriously, I go all the time.

I love Daynata.

They open at like 3 o'clock or whatever, and I'll be the first person there.

Dude, I love Daynata.

That's a spot that...

The Aitis is really good, too.

I take people there who aren't, you know, who are visiting or whatever because it feels like

it feels like a great, like, little throwback.

It's a newer spot.

It's next to Sawyer and Co.

across from Central Machine Works.

And it's, their mascot thing is a grackle eating a chip, and they put it on a big sign on like the outside.

Oh, yeah.

Their tequila list is awesome.

Their food is killer.

Yeah, it's great.

Their queso is really good.

I just think it's a great little spot.

Dude, next time you go, just hit me up.

I will snuff down

the the shot.

Maybe we should do an episode there.

Let's do it.

Do they have coffee?

No, we have burger episodes.

Why can't we have taco episodes?

I don't know.

That's a line we're never crossing.

Listen, Rooster's gone.

They were stopping us from getting tacos, and that's what led to its downfall.

Big teeth can't tell us what to do anymore.

We're out from under Big T.

The idea that they were stopping us from getting taken.

They were keeping us sitting in a box.

Let's do that thing that every ex-employee does.

Yeah.

Well, I gotta, I have to go make a YouTube video that says I'm no longer with rooster teeth and it's my sad face and it's all lowercase as the title or whatever.

But you were talking also about food poisoning and it made me think about something else Austria related.

Esther was reading a subreddit that I don't subscribe to.

It's like Kitchen Confidential or something.

And some dude went on there talking about how

he was let go from a barbecue place, like a very prestigious barbecue place in Austin, and that their health practices were terrible.

That the walk-in cooler was never below 40 degrees.

They would put buckets of like raw jalapenos under meat, and like the drippings would get into the raw jalapenos and just fill it.

And just like all these terrible things.

And everyone in the comments, like, which place is it?

Which place is it?

Where is it?

And the guy kind of like hemmed and hawed and finally was like, yeah, it's image dealer barbecue.

Oh, really?

I've still never been.

Wow, really?

So, again, take it with a grain of salt.

Yeah.

Who knows if it's true at all?

But it was like a post on Kitchen Confidential.

Wow,

that person was like, Yeah, I reported them to the health department and all this stuff.

When was the last time you had barbecue?

I've so rarely eaten.

Me too.

I went to Rudy's like two weeks ago.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

What for for family or just go?

What do you eat?

Okay, I think we've talked about it on this podcast before, but they've got a baked potato or they call it a smoked potato.

And you can get it loaded, and then they put the barbecue on it, and it's like $9.99.

And it's one, it's delicious, and two, it's the best value for barbecue in the world.

Why don't we film a Rudy's baked potato episode?

Well, we're finally under the

oppressive rule of bigger teeth, and we can do whatever we want.

We can do whatever we want.

We do whatever we want.

Again, they were holding us back from eating, what was it, barbecue-covered baked potatoes?

Yeah, specifically.

They put it on a list, and we said, ooh.

Yeah, now we can do whatever we want.

Take that, Mr.

Chief.

I mean, there's plenty of space to record at Rudy's, too.

Like, I'm so down.

We can get breakfast tacos and a giant potato.

Yeah.

Because we can all have tacos that we can can eat off of one potato, and then it's not like we're going insane.

Yeah, yeah.

See?

Smart.

Okay.

Y'all gotta do sour cream.

I can't, I can't roll.

What?

You can get it on the side.

Or we can get on the side.

How's your vegan...

I normally eat meat on the weekend.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

And I'm not super strict about it.

I'm more like vegetarian during the week and then I'll eat meat on the weekends.

Esther subscribed to this as well?

No, not really.

You know, it's not like a hard fasting, just really trying to reduce the amount of meat consumed.

Would you say you eat barbecue or Rudy's fairly regularly?

No.

Or was that the first time?

That was like the first time in a long time.

Yeah.

How about you?

I think the last time I had barbecue,

it was probably Terry Black when someone was in town.

I went to that place you told me about,

the Egyptian barbecue.

Oh, yeah.

What's it called?

Yeah, what is it?

Koji or Koge or something,

BBQ that's at Oddwood.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And my mom went and picked it up when she was in town.

It was fucking amazing.

Isn't it awesome?

Absolutely amazing.

It's like, we talked about it on an episode because we were going to go do, it was going to be coffee.

They don't have a coffee truck anymore.

It's an Egyptian guy making barbecue with like a lot of like Middle Eastern spices and stuff.

It's unreal.

It was real.

It's so good.

Because you can just get the regular barbecue stuff, but then it's just like, hey, check it out.

We jammed a pita full of this stuff.

It made me briefly excited for barbecue again.

And that other place that we went to a couple times with Rooster Teeth-related shit at the end by by the old office.

We did a coffee upstairs there.

They also have barbecue.

What is that place called?

I don't know.

Eric keeps looking at me.

Nom.

Nom.

Nosh?

Nosh?

Nah.

Nosh and Bevi was over on Burnett.

No, this place is right by the old office, right by Shithead Donuts.

And we went there for a while.

Oh, yeah!

Yeah, that place.

When you're saying the old office.

I'm saying Rooster Teeth.

I understand, but when you say the old office, I'm thinking down south and like Ralph Alblonito and shit.

And I'm like, I don't know anything around that.

No,

I wouldn't say that to you.

Yeah, I mean,

when I say old office to the group, I mean the one where we are together.

Right.

There's no new office.

You should have a new office.

Right.

I have a new office.

But the Roostie office isn't the current office, therefore it's the old office.

Yeah, that

place is good.

Yeah,

that barbecue place, and it has like the coffee shop in it.

Yeah.

And that was great.

Was it called Nash or something like that?

Nom Nom,

something like that.

Something like that.

Yeah.

Um, can I ask you guys more?

I'm going to look it up, but can I ask you guys more of it?

And you feel free not to answer this, and we can cut it if you if you really want to.

That's totally fine.

Um, prepare for cut.

Uh-huh.

How did you feel being a founder that, oh, mum foods, smokehouse.

You're close.

How did you feel being a founder?

Did you feel like there was a founder's card?

Cut.

Did you feel like there was a a founder's card that you had to play at times or could play at times to force a hand or get something through we're talking about like oh yeah they wouldn't let us get tacos whatever that never happened no stuff like that never occurred um and for me i had a system that i had to work through but there were a lot of times where it was like

hey i'm trying to do this with like gus and jeff and it would like grease the wheel in a way where people would be like oh sorry and then like let it it go through.

Did you feel that?

Sometimes, yes, sometimes no.

I think I never tried to do anything outside of process.

Uh-huh.

You know, I tried to respect process as much as I could, but there were some times where I felt like process was wrong or slowing down, so I would be like, no, no, we're not, I'm not going to do that.

Yeah.

It wasn't very often, though.

Yeah.

Founders.

have surprisingly little

power in a company.

Yeah.

Once it grows to a certain point, they definitely have have influence and it would be disingenuous for gus and i to insinuate that we didn't have a tremendous amount of influence in the company

but with that influence came i felt an even greater responsibility not to use it yeah or when to or when you do use it to make sure you're using it in at in the right way at the right time in the right amount if that makes sense and then again at some point influence is only influence, people don't have to listen to you, right?

You know, and one of the frustrating things about being a founder, especially later on in the company when things were more difficult and it became a very complicated thing to run, is you would be told no.

I got told no constantly, right?

You know, I got told no more than

I got, probably got told yes more than anybody in the company, but I also probably got told no more than anybody in the company, Gustav.

And

the problem with being a founder is you're privy to the to,

I guess the

to seeing fully behind the veil and understand the no.

And so a lot of times you get to see why the no is a no, and then you're faced with the reality of going like, I get why our no is a no.

And that's a heavy, it sucks.

It would be easier just to be like, oh, it's unfair that they said no to me.

I wish I could be mad about it.

But then you get to see the reason behind it and you go, fuck, I understand.

It makes sense.

Yeah.

It makes sense.

And it's hard to live on.

I always find it hard to straddle both of those sides.

Yeah.

Because I understood why the business made the decisions the business made, and I understood why the talent and the rest of the company

were upset about some of the decisions that were made.

You know, when you, it's like being on a seesaw, it's fucking a brutal place to live.

Um, and it's very demoralizing, I think, at times because there's like no right answer everyone, and you just like

no matter which way the seesaw swings, you're disappointing and letting somebody down.

You know, it's sucks.

Um,

but

to also be an effective leader, whether whether it's in a leadership role or whether as a mentor or

an intra-company luminary, maybe,

you just, I think you have, once again,

a moral and ethical responsibility to follow the processes in place and to do it the right way and to lead by example.

And so I think Gus and I both tried to do that, which is why I spent as much time making one sheets and pitch proposals as anybody else in the company.

I think leading by example is key.

Like what you hit on there.

It's like, if you are flaunting working outside the system, how can you expect anyone to respect the system?

Yeah.

It's a difficult place to be.

Even now, like with Stinky Dragon stuff, right?

Like, I don't ask anyone else on the team to do something I wouldn't do myself.

Like, I'm, you know, getting, like you said,

we don't have to do one sheets or shit like that, but it's like anything like assistant editing or, you know, compiling audio or whatever it takes.

Like, I'm, you know, gonna wait in and get it done just to make sure there's like it's as egalitarian as possible.

Yeah.

I think that there was a,

I think for people who were like, who didn't know, like, within the company, I think there was a thought of,

oh, yeah, the founders will just kind of do what they're going to do.

And, you know,

that's whatever.

But that's, that was a very like ignorant way of thinking, I think, for a lot of people.

It's an easy way of thinking.

It was.

It was a very easy way of thinking.

And I think a lot of that thinking was like

it hurt

a lot of the internal processes that we're talking about where

I don't think I ever saw you guys go outside of the norm of like what I would have to do to get something moved through or whatever.

I never saw you guys go in and like,

here's my fucking dick on the table.

Here's what we're doing.

I don't think in my entire tenure I ever saw you guys do that.

I saw other people do that that didn't have the pull to do something like that.

And and it's like the the sort of like discrepancy or like thought there that just thinking like well this is what the founders are able to do and I don't think I ever saw you guys do anything like that if you were ever to describe me Jeff

you would probably say I

respect rules and I love adhering to rules uh-huh Gus is a rule Gus is a rule lover right so it's like I'm gonna do my best to work within the rules and within the system whenever possible right be and people also it's very easy to look at the wins because I used to deal with this a lot like with people in the company around me.

I'd hear the whispers and I'd hear them talking, or they would say it in veiled ways to be like, of course, we're making another Jeff project.

But it's like, nobody recognizes that they look at me and go like, well, we made hardcore Monopoly.

It took me four years as a founder of the fucking company to get Hardcore Monopoly made.

It took me four years of constantly beating that drum and trying to convince people and proposing it and being told no and trying again and retooling it and coming back around six months later and taking a different stab at it before i got it made people don't recognize the amount of work that get that that sometimes goes into the the wins right you know they don't see that part of it and you have the patience and just like waiting and yeah yeah i mean we were

we were trying to launch black box down yeah with a that took a long time with a founder

with us

and we were essentially told no yeah that took a year yes yeah or so yeah and that's just an audio podcast It's a low lift.

But and that was at a time where we weren't doing that stuff.

We were just looking for like, I don't know, what do you guys want to do?

It was very left field.

Mm-hmm.

I thought it was a hell of an idea.

Yeah.

And a whole direction we should be heading in, which clearly we did.

Well, God.

Well, the reason that it happened is because you were creative director for six months or whatever, and you were listening to us through the wall and going, this is great.

Rubber stamp, rubber stamp, rubber stamp, rubber stamp.

And that's how all the podcasts came to be.

That's how all that stuff happened.

Yeah, I think that podcast was interesting because it did a a lot of things that kind of became the mold, right?

Like I think that was the first podcast that had its own domain where like a call to action where you could send people and there was like Roostie First or socials and all of that stuff.

It was a good test bet because again, it was outside of the core audience.

It was like this whole other thing that you could kind of like experiment with and tool with and see

what works and what doesn't work.

I'd love, man,

so I did get the rights to that back after the Roostie First.

Oh, really?

Yeah, okay.

I own Black Box Down.

And I've been itching.

Like, I really want to do something with it, but man, just so slammed with Kills from the Stinky Dragon.

I got no time.

And all this good morning Gus stuff that he has to do.

Yeah, yeah.

Editing this audio.

I got a little for the audience, a little peek behind the curtain.

So since I own Black Box Down, I got my first payout from Spotify.

Oh, really?

For dynamic ad insertion the other day.

So the way it works, again, if you're not familiar with the way podcast works, like you can do direct ad sales and, you know, it's when you hear me saying, buy a hello mattress or whatever.

Well, that's good.

He's not giving any provision, maybe that's smart.

Um, that's that quick gust thing, yeah.

But there's also dynamic ad insertion, yeah, where it's like you just mark that there's there can be an ad at this spot in an episode, and then plat, or depending on the platform you use, the Black Box Down associated on Megaphone, which is Spotify.

Uh, they'll go ahead and dynamically insert ads that target the person based on where they are or whatever.

Right.

So, obviously, I'm not making you episodes of Black Box Down, not doing dynamic ads.

So, right now, it's just generating revenue with dynamic ads, right?

Yeah, and uh, you know, they just lower the price for $30,

which is what a great deal.

I love your own reynolds,

save money by having his kids meet.

So, I got my first payout for Black Box Down, which is just running dynamic ads.

$35,000?

No, no, no, no,

and hasn't had new content in a year or so.

The payout for a month was $400,

which

sounds like a lot.

Uh-huh.

But hosting Black Box Down costs me $250 a month.

And I have to pay for some storage to store all the files.

That costs me another $10 a month.

So I'm out $260 a month.

So you made $140 and you didn't make a copy.

I made $140,

but I'm going to get taxed on $400 worth of revenue and I have to file my taxes at the end of the year.

So I think in the end, I probably made about $70

in the month off of $400.

So for people who don't, who always wonder, like, hey, you could just put this out and put ads on it.

It doesn't.

That's really an unsustainable process.

That is a great little explanation for us.

I hope people listen to that and understand.

The storage, the cost of storage

is,

it should be so much less, or it should be so much more.

Where it's at feels like a weird expensive, inexpensive spot to me where it's like, it's not that much to host this stuff, but it should be zero.

Yeah, or it should be hundreds.

And when you sign up for a lot of these services, they're like, oh, you get like three months free and all this stuff.

And you're like, oh, great.

And then you have to start paying for it.

And you just go, why am I making this?

I got to pay money to have this go somewhere so people listen to.

I don't care if you listen to this.

Like, it's goofy.

It's very weird.

And nobody thinks about like those little things that are all back-end stuff.

And that's why it's so nice to have Nick.

Yeah.

I've been,

man, when we, when Rooster Teeth shut down and we had to go independent, I talked with Nick non-stop.

I feel like I understand.

Like,

I started our broadcast division.

I started all the podcast stuff way back in the day.

I knew everything.

And then when we went independent, I was like, okay, I can do this again.

I don't know what goddamn.

I think, hopefully, I've gained like 25% of Nick knowledge in the intermediate time.

The day Rooster Teeth closed down, Nick became the most popular employee in the history of Rooster Teeth.

Nick.

The people of of Rooster Teeth.

Nick Schwartz, for the last probably three months at the time of this recording, has probably been the hardest working man of any of us since it all shut down.

Absolutely.

He is all day, every day.

He's editing.

He's not just editing.

He's not just uploading.

He's not just like, he learned how to do like video shit.

Like, he's never, he doesn't edit video.

He's an audio guy.

Learned how to do all that stuff or whatever.

He's still in all of our recordings.

And then he's taking meetings and helping other people to figure out all their back end.

And he's just like, oh, happy to help.

Yeah.

he is the unsung hero of so many podcasts.

He's more than a guy in a monkey mask where laughing in the background of all this stuff.

He's my true enemy when we play video games.

And he is the hardest-working man in everything that we do.

He is so hard-working, so smart, so sharp.

I mean,

what a fucking great worker.

I could never say enough good things about Nick.

He's such a nice guy.

It's disgusting.

Yeah, adults.

And it's the worst, isn't it?

When you're like, why do you get to have it all?

Yeah.

And he's got weird feet, though.

Yeah,

he's probably Kanga.

Big foot guy.

And he loves fume.

That guy's all about it.

That dude is...

He's like.

Bidget devices were designed for Nick.

Should we start walking back with him?

Yeah, yeah.

Nick is a guy who needs something to do.

And I totally understand this.

He's a guy who needs something to do with his hands, but also used to just chain smoke cigarettes because he worked in sports radio.

And so he would just all day, all day, all day.

Is there a way to walk back on his hands?

There is.

There is.

It's going to be loud because we're on the street, but I don't mind.

Yeah.

But yeah, Nick, hardest working guy out of any of us.

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Should we talk about the early days of Rooste and what a deal hosting was?

When we first started,

oh, what a deal it is now.

Like, what a deal it was to deal with.

Uh-oh.

What an ordeal.

What an ordeal it was.

There you go.

And

when we first started, I think our first hosting bill was around 10K.

It was 15,000.

Holy shit.

From what?

What year was this?

2003.

God damn.

So imagine getting, Oh, that's cool.

I'm going to take a picture of that.

That's really neat.

Monopoly.

Imagine getting

launching a web series that becomes an overnight success, and suddenly people all over the world are sharing it and talking about it.

And then that success comes with an immediate $15,000 bill.

If I remember correctly.

Like a two month later.

We had to find hosting.

We found a service, hosted, like had a web host server.

I think it was in Houston.

Yeah, it was in Houston.

But then it was like that server.

There's another one there, Eric.

Oh, this is.

That's cool.

These are great.

But there was too much traffic for that one data center.

So we had to get a second one on the West Coast and then a third one on the East Coast.

Jesus Christ.

So we had three different.

So when you went to our website to download videos, it'd be like, there were quote-unquote mirrors.

It was like, download the video from West Coast, download the video Central, download the video East Coast.

And that's why it ended up being $15,000.

Wow.

But I will say, very quickly, people emerged to help us

is that right yeah yeah i don't know if we've talked about that too much but well first we tried to we taught people how to use bit torrent yeah and we would take the files home and then turn them ourselves hell yeah from our home internet connection right which was terrible yeah uh but yeah then uh

we had uh

different groups or different people step up to help us with uh free and or discounted hosting yeah we had some really good discounted hosting in sacramento and then some free hosting in a couple other places yeah i think we talked about the Microsoft one before.

We did, we did.

Made a big difference though.

And it was great for us because I think somebody from Microsoft, guys, you can correct me.

My memory is so faulty, came to us and said, listen, we need to test out some new servers.

We want to load test some new servers.

We need the kind of traffic you guys are sending.

Wow, really?

So we'll host it so that you can help us test out.

Oh, I've never heard about that.

Yeah, so the Microsoft series.

Like web services, back then, I don't know if it's called anymore.

It was called IIS,

Internet Information Service or something like that.

Anyway, yeah,

they would test new new builds of IIS on some of our file servers that we were serving stuff with.

And actually, one of the times I was up at Microsoft, I got to see our actual server there.

Oh, really?

Yeah, I went to the data center with some of the guys.

I think I have a picture of it somewhere.

Daddy, that was cool.

Yeah.

So it was good for them just to get tons of traffic.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Tons of traffic wasn't necessarily easy to come by back then, you know?

Yeah, exactly.

It was like.

Yeah.

And it was kind of before, well, it was definitely before YouTube.

So, like, streaming video wasn't a thing.

Right.

It's a huge pain in the ass.

I hate it.

It's funny.

I felt like it took much longer to walk on the back.

But we went all the way down to go around to come back.

That's why I said, let's start walking back.

I thought it was going to take forever.

Yeah.

No, it's super fast.

I feel like I'm kind of excited.

We'll chill by the car.

Yeah.

Because we got to talk about figure eight.

Do we?

We should also find out how the audience likes, like, do they like this?

Maybe we should do more walk and talk episodes.

I hope they like it.

I like it because we're not getting feedback.

And I was going to say, and by the time we hear from the audience, we'll have done probably the whole season.

That's a good point.

That's true.

That's a good point.

There you go.

Yep.

I really like the walk and talk.

Like, this is great.

This is fantastic.

The design of this figure eight.

Me too.

I like all the art and everything.

This used to be a place called Sweet Ritual, which was like a vegan ice cream shop.

Yes, it was.

I was around for quite a while.

I thought they did some interesting stuff where...

You know, of course, they were like the vegan ice cream shop, but they also held classes and did like seminars and how to start your own vegan ice cream shop.

Did you ever go to one?

No,

that costs a good amount of money.

It's like if you're starting a business, you pay them.

Yeah.

Did they move or

they closed down?

No, I think they have a, don't they have another location or was that the only one?

But that was the only one.

Oh, wow.

They posted that,

you know, of course, pandemic was rough, but

some of their big suppliers for their process were located in Ukraine.

Oh, Christ.

And after the war started there, it became difficult and/or prohibitively expensive to get supplies from Ukraine anymore.

That's crazy.

And it was like they couldn't source new stuff, so they ended up having to close down.

Wow.

That's nice.

Thanks, Putin.

Yeah, but what about soup peddler?

Soup Pedler's good.

They're solid.

I feel like they used to cycle through more of a variety of soups in the past.

I feel like they've slimmed down their offerings.

Well, they used to be a different kind of service, too, right?

Like, you would order soup and they would deliver it to you.

Yeah, you would leave

it like it would bike to you.

Yeah, yeah.

So you would leave, like you would say, like, I want my soups delivered on Tuesday or whatever.

Give me my soups on Tuesday.

They wouldn't give it to you.

The way it worked was, because I used them for a while back then when they were like that, is you had to put an ice chest on your front porch or by your front door.

Ripe.

And they would come and they would leave the soup.

They wouldn't knock.

They wouldn't talk to you.

They would just come.

They would leave the soup in the cooler and then take off.

Like they just, like, they would just have to keep going.

Oh, man.

What time does a soup man get here?

So you'd have to worry.

So it's like you go out to work or whatever, because what are the odds you're going to be there when the soup guy shows up?

Yeah.

You come home from work, all your soup's fine in the soup.

I work from home, so I'm watching out the window for the soup man.

I'm watching for the soup man on his little soup bike.

Well, they have, I don't know if they even still do that anymore because they have like five locations, like brick and mortar.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think back then when they did that, they had, there was no location you could go to.

Like they had like a commercial kitchen where they made everything, but there was no

first location was our old tattoo ship.

It was.

That was the first one.

Oh, wow, really?

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Yeah, this seems like a plate.

Like, Soup Peddler to me just strikes me as like a, like, hey, I work at an office and I need a lunch.

I'm going to get half a sandwich and a minestrone.

Like, that is,

that seems like the mood now.

I don't know it as a soup man delivery service.

I guess in a smaller Austin, you can bike around with some soup and that feels like what Austin used to be.

That is definitely

a guy biking around with soup.

It's probably also a lower cost business to operate.

You don't have to worry about like maintaining a dining area.

It's true.

So you just have to have make a couple giant vats of soup and then hire a guy on a bike.

Yeah.

Having to repeat soup as a business like crux is so fucking funny.

I mean, if soup is your passion, right?

I got six big vats of soup and I don't know what my business model is.

Get on your bike and ride.

Just then Fat Bottom Girls Mike Queen

comes on.

You guys ever go to the Grand?

Used to.

Yeah.

Well, I didn't.

A lot.

Yeah, I was going to say, I can't imagine that you've got a lot of people.

I've been here a couple of times, but yeah, it's been a long time.

Probably like seven or eight times.

It's a

billiards hall, I guess you would call it.

It's just a bar with a bunch of pool tables.

This didn't used to be a shopping center you'd want to hang out in.

It is really, even from the time that I moved here to now, it's come up.

Yeah.

And so the Grand was like the opening salvo of that.

So I'd come every once in a while a while to play pool, but I don't like pool holes in general.

I wish I did.

Yeah, same.

I wish I did.

I find them.

Seems like a place that I would definitely hang out in.

Fucking.

Yep.

And then I just, I come here and I go, I guess it's not for me.

Yeah.

I'm not good at pool.

So it's like I don't need to be human.

I'm humiliated enough in my day-to-day.

I think I don't like activities.

Activities suck.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, I think it stems from my board game thing.

It's not necessarily that I hate a board game.

It's that I'm not a big activities guy.

I want to hang out, I love hanging out like this.

If we were in there, this is all I would want to do.

And then if somebody goes, hey, man, let's shoot some pool.

All of a sudden, we're not doing this, we're doing that, and I don't like doing that.

And if we're not doing that, we're in the way of somebody trying to get out of it.

Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just don't, I'm not a big activities guy.

You go to a party and someone's like, oh, I got like this video game going.

It's like, yeah, but I just want to just hang out.

Yeah, I want to get, I want to get Blackout Drunk on Tom Collins.

Hell yeah.

What is this?

1999?

God Goddamn right.

We should probably wrap up a little bit.

I think we're probably pretty close to time.

Like 50 minutes?

Yeah.

So what do you guys think of Figure 8 coffee?

What about your port?

What did I give it last week?

8.5?

8.5.

Yeah,

it's the exact same thing.

I think you check and see if there's any other locations for next week.

Well, I wanted to go to Lazarus next week, but it's fine.

We don't have to.

I mean, it's consistent.

I think that's what you were talking about before.

It's the exact same cup of coffee.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do we want to go to Rudy's for the next one?

Yeah.

They can't stop us.

Do you want to?

Big Tooth can't stop us.

It's two guys who started the company.

Oh, oh, they can't stop us from eating breakfast tacos.

You know, I still laugh a little bit at the founders thing, you know, because guests and I definitely could call ourselves founders, but that was not a thing that was said until like 12 years in.

And guess what I only started, like, only started calling ourselves founders because Bernie kept saying it all the time.

And we'd go like, wait a minute, we're founders too.

I felt like I I had to claim it.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I definitely felt like we had to claim it.

Yeah.

Just to make sure that there was external recognition as well.

Yeah.

It was definitely a very conscious move to start using that title more frequently.

Yeah.

It definitely wasn't the way the way things were said back in the old days.

Well, of course not.

But when you start getting external people in, and that's the way people refer to you, and then

one of the few of you starts also saying it, you kind of have to start saying it.

Your hand is forced a little bit, I think, think, into that situation.

I agree with that.

Yeah.

I think if it was the two of you, I don't think that would have been a thing that was said, but I think there were other people that probably said it a little bit more.

If I remember right, I think it was like a conscious decision on my part.

And I think like that week I told you, I was like, hey, I'm going to start using this title.

Yeah, I remember the conversation.

I was like, I don't want you weirded out.

I was like, I think you should be using it too.

Oh, wow, really?

So you guys like talked about it.

Like you two.

Well, because it was like, it was out of left field.

Yeah.

I didn't want him to be like, why the fuck are you saying this all of a sudden?

I was like, I want to be.

Because it was so weird.

It was not how things work.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was definitely like, hey, I'm doing this, and I think you probably should too.

Yeah.

I'm going to start making Mega64 refer to themselves as founders.

Rocco Dirk and Sean are founders, and I think I want them to rub it in Garrett's face.

He's been there.

He's been there since like almost the beginning.

And it's like, ah, yeah.

Not the beginning.

Yeah, not the beginning.

That's almost the beginning.

He makes you almost a founder.

You can put that on a business card, I guess.

So, figure eight, good spot.

I think that this was a better cup of coffee than I had last week.

Interesting.

I think the other location might have like a better place to hang out.

Yeah.

Oh,

there's a way better spot.

It's a way better spot to hang out over there.

It's a coffee shop than a strip ball.

I mean, this is.

Yeah, unless you want to go get a cup of coffee and walk inside the dominoes, you're kind of SOL.

Like, it's just, it is what it is.

But, but the inside of this one,

this is what new coffee shop is to me, where the other one is what old coffee shop is to me.

Good point.

The other one was cluttered.

There's stuff.

Here's wine.

We just have stuff.

Oh, are you in the way?

Yeah.

All right, cool.

You moved?

Yeah, you're still in the way.

And it's like, oh, fuck.

I'm in a coffee shop.

This is like bright.

It does that.

I think millennials, as far as like colors or whatever, had like that blue and pink sort of vibe or whatever, like that neon-y, whatever.

This is very Gen Z, where it's like that peach and teal and like soft, and everything's desert, and everything's a

and there's a little guy, and there's he's a little character guy, and it's just that kind of thing where

the other one feels

way more Gen X, where it's just like it's dark.

Yeah, deal with it.

There's a bunch of burlap bags full of beans on the ground.

Yeah, it's definitely just a different vibe, um, but I think they're both equally cool.

Like, I think they're both nice.

Yeah, they're both both great cups of coffee.

My coffee was identical and mine.

Yeah.

Cool.

Exact same cup of coffee.

I think figure eight.

Way to go.

Two locations.

Hey, when they open a third, we'll be there.

Listen, I think I have a solution for one of our problems here.

Okay.

We need more tape.

We need to take

the tape down.

Then the outer tape falls and the inner tape stays.

Oh, okay.

I think I might just do chalk, but that's up to you if you want to drive around with chalk on your tire.

I'm just trying to save you from tire chalk.

We'll figure it out.

We'll figure it out for for sure.

I'm thinking Rudy's barbecue next week.

We make these breakfast tacos happen.

Why not?

What do you think about that?

Yeah, I think that's a great thing.

Yeah.

We want to do the what?

I guess the one on the bottom.

I want a baked potato.

I want a breakfast, baked potato.

Okay, I mean, that's not.

You get potatoes in your breakfast tacos, so yeah, it's not a weird thing.

There you go.

Do you think they'll have the baked potato at like 9 a.m.?

Yeah.

Why not?

I don't know.

I don't know how Rudy's works.

I have no idea.

You both fucking jumped on me.

We might have to go to lunch.

Yeah, we'll see.

We'll figure it out.

But that's next week.

That's next week's problem.

You guys want to follow us on social media?

I don't know what that is yet.

We skip that.

Yeah.

Go to the description.

It'll be in the description.

We had an ANDMA social media.

We did.

Right, but we're going to change the name because the name of this is different.

So if we just said keep going, like, it's like how we still have at fuck face pod on Instagram because some fucking dunts stole these other names.

We had to do all this run around stuff.

Hey guys, don't worry.

I took the URL so some other fan couldn't have it.

Great.

Okay, so what, so now you, you now you're just

now you're just that guy.

You dummy.

Yeah, I called Gavin a numpty not too long ago.

I feel like I've been trying to like, I'm like easing that one in.

Like numpty feels good, but I don't think, but I'm not British, so it doesn't feel like it has like the same punch.

You know what I mean?

Numpty.

Okay.

He like whispered it to himself.

I was like trying to figure it out.

How do you workshop?

I gotta.

That's good.

We'll keep working on it.

We'll see it next week.

All right.

I'll have a perfect it next week.

Well, that's good morning, Gus.

You guys, any final thoughts for the folks at home?

I hope you're having as enjoyable of a summer as we are.

Great summer.

Yeah.

Appreciate the reasonable hosting fees at points.

Summer's back, baby.

Bye.