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Okay, this is anima 78 uh last time we were at mighty feinberger we talked about how it's rudy's uh we took we talked about lake fail talked about dirty martens our first rated r movies uh a second downtown and more but that's all last time interesting story i i posted this on the anarchy me anything website i did a little bit of research into lake fail and i posted some background on it uh go to the website if you want to learn more um it was never named lake fail it was it appeared like that on google maps

somebody played a joke the google office was right across the street and one one of the people there just named it Lake Fail.

No.

Yeah.

I think if I remember right, their last name was Something Fail.

That's kind of like how DHD Hot Dogs and Achievement Hunter was the number one restaurant in Austin for a while, even though it didn't exist on Google.

So if you'd like to read more, I found like a Reddit thread about it.

If you'd like to read more, go to anarchymeanything.com.

But I'm pissed off.

What?

Yeah, can we talk about the elephant in the room?

What do you mean?

Can we just get it?

We're outside.

There's no taco there was terrible.

It's inedible.

It is unbelievable.

We're literally screaming this from the rooftops.

I hope people hear me, so don't buy the breakfast taco.

It's so insulting what they gave us.

It went straight in the fucking trash can.

That's true, it did.

And I'm hungry.

Me too.

I had to throw away food.

I couldn't hit it.

And

I'll eat taco deli tacos that have been sitting out for four hours at a coffee shop.

Like, I don't have high taste.

Parts of of the tortilla were like mush, like it had been steamed and spongy.

And then there were other parts that were hard, like it was stale and it's been out for days.

Yeah.

I don't know how I've never had a bite of food that had those two conflicting textures in my mouth at the same time like that.

It was, it's, they ought to be ashamed of themselves.

And here's what's frustrating.

It's South by week, right?

Yeah.

So Austin is beset with about 300,000 very hip and cool people that

want to go to all the hip and cool places, as it were.

So they're here.

There was a line.

Yeah, I tried to come over the weekend.

I don't even like this place, but my cousin and I were out bike riding, and he was like, let's pull in and get some coffee.

And we tried to, but the line was down the road.

I've always thought this place was super mediocre.

And I warned Eric ahead of time about the food.

Everything here is kind of, everything at this location is kind of mediocre.

For sure.

But

I think there's one restaurant that I like.

Really?

Yeah.

But

my fear is that all of these people are coming from all over the world and they come to Austin and they hear go here and then they try a breakfast taco and then they go

Is this what everybody's been talking about?

Yeah, this is garbage.

Is this what people keep recommending to me?

Well, I'm definitely not gonna try the barbecue now if this is what the tacos are like.

This is dog shit.

I hate to derail you, but it's apparently South by Duck Week as well over there.

Oh,

there is a flotilla of ducks

on the lake over here.

We're at Mozart's,

which is a coffee shop at a place, I guess it's called Oyster Landing.

There's a few different restaurants and stuff.

It's on the shore of the lake right by the dam.

So there's always water here.

It's a nice view, but I think every place here gets by on the view.

If you're 20 and you're taking a girl on a date, this is a great spot for that.

Yeah.

That is, to me, that's what this place exists for.

There's an old RT animated adventure from a million years ago where I tell a story about how we were taking Gavin out.

We were walking around and we were talking about the preconceived notions of Americans being like loud and obnoxious.

And then a boat pulled up and a bunch of guys go, we got the beer, and they throw beer on, and they're like, fuck yeah, and they

like speed off listen to the Metallica at like ear blistering levels.

It's just right there.

Like this is where we were.

There's a duck adventure in the water over there.

It's a hybrid, one of those hybrid.

Have you ever taken one of those?

No.

A duck tour or duck adventure or any of those?

Well, I used to hate them when I worked downtown.

Also when Rooster Teeth was downtown, I was thinking about my old job, but when Rooster Teeth was downtown, because you'd be walking down the street and then they'd be going driving down Congress and everyone would start quacking at you.

So it's not as cute as you think it is.

It's actually quite annoying.

Yeah, I mean, so we also, there's

another popular place, just kind of

the next restaurant over over here called Hula Hut, which is like Chewy's Polynesian restaurant, question mark.

It's not very good.

And that's where I'm going to disagree with Gus.

I think Hula Hut's good.

And it's no longer associated with Chewies.

It hasn't been for a very long time.

Maybe I should give it another one.

So I read about the history of it because I've always known them to be the same thing, right?

It was always like Chewy's, Shady Grove, and Hula Hut were like a threefer.

But I looked, they haven't been for quite some time.

I think when Chewy's went corporate, the salsa is still the same, which is fucking awesome.

Like they have the best salsa.

But yeah,

a lot of the food and the menus are the same because of their earlier association, but I guess the guy who owned Hula Hut didn't want to be

didn't want to go down that road or whatever, so split off.

And so it's still its own independently owned thing that has nothing to do.

Well, I wish Shady Grove had done that because I miss Shady Grove.

I did like Shady Grove.

Best friends on Earth.

So again, Hula Hut's, in my mind, one of those places you come when you're in your 20s because they've got big drinks and it's cool.

You and I used to come here every now and then.

We used to drink the hula la.

Big groups.

Yeah, they would have a hula la, which was like a big alcoholic drink in a fishbowl.

And,

yeah,

I think we both have probably puked off the pier back over there.

I remember a night we dared each other to drink a hula la and we were trying to see who could drink it first because it's like a five gallon or like a three gallon like it's one of those round fish bowl fish bowls.

And I got so sick about halfway through, I was like, I'll be right back.

And I ran outside and I threw up off the balcony and then came back in to finish the drink.

And I don't think either of us finished that night, but I still kept going.

It was definitely things I would not do anymore.

I don't ever want to do that again.

No, no, no, I'm good.

I don't have to do that.

Because it's like sugar and alcohol, and that's it.

When was the last time you had alcohol?

Do you remember?

Yeah, yeah.

I know you're not like sober.

I'm not you don't drink anymore.

I had a beer on a plane back in October.

Okay.

Like, if my rule is if I'm above 30,000 feet, I can have a beer.

I like that.

Says the pilot.

Yeah, but

the planes I fly only don't go that high.

Luckily, someone else has to be flying to get above 30,000 feet.

So don't worry, it's going to be all right.

That's funny.

Yeah, so if I'm that's my that's my car route.

If I'm a passenger on the plane, I'll have a beer.

But that's like that's it.

It's tough, though, because it's like, ooh, that was really good.

I could have another.

Or like, ooh,

what if I had a vodka or like something else?

Oh, yeah, I remember the feeling.

That's how I got into the mess.

Yeah.

So it's.

Yeah, that's my carve out, but it's tough.

So that was in, I don't know if it's October.

October, yeah.

Okay.

That's probably the last time.

That was definitely the last time.

That's March now, so that's a good five, however however many months that is.

Yeah.

I don't think anybody knows that math.

Yeah, I'll go

quite a while.

So the other elephant in the room?

Yeah, that's a good one.

I told him not to get it.

It's okay.

Our timing for episodes could not be worse.

Across the board, my friend.

We recorded an episode last week, a day before

it was announced that Rooster Teeth was ceasing operations in 60 days.

So the whole episode just

totally doesn't talk about that because

there was no news about it.

Yeah,

we didn't know.

And now, by the time this episode comes out, it'll be like two weeks old.

Yeah.

No one wants to talk about that anymore.

No one even cares anymore.

Yep.

The internet's moved on at that point.

But I mean, and honestly, I don't know what we would have said or what would have come of it.

I mean, other shows have put statements out.

It's going to be the same thing.

We don't know.

There's a lot of questions up in the air.

A lot to figure out.

Yeah.

I will say,

and I do think we should probably say this sooner than later, the plan,

the loose plan

that is coming together as we speak.

Very subject to change, depending on many variables.

Because you'd be amazed at how many things in your life go wrong all at once when this domino falls.

Like, we're all struggling with all kinds of shit right now.

Seriously, last week was an insane week, and Rooster Teeth going under was only part of it.

There goes that duck adventure.

But the loose plan is that we continue.

Like, Gus, you and I have been friends now for

25 years.

And

part of why I wanted to start this podcast in the first place is because you and I are

too similar in one way.

We're very comfortable being by ourselves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so I have a best friend of 25 years here who

I never see or talk to, which is fine.

It doesn't affect our friendship at all.

Like you and I are the kind of people that if we didn't see each other for 30 years and we saw each other, we'd pick up immediately like it had been, like we hadn't missed a beat.

But I don't want it to get to that.

And so part of why I started the podcast was to have an excuse for us to hang out.

Absolutely.

That's more important than ever to me because as Rooster Teeth unfolds or winds down, all the people in our universe are going to start scattering to the wind.

And it's extra important for me to hang on to the relationships that matter.

And there's there's none that matters more than ours and so if this podcast or a version of this podcast is the only way to maintain FaceTime with you then there's no way this podcast regular cadence yeah there's no way I'm gonna stop it

everything okay with there Mr.

Producer I think so it's just it's the light is so you can't see it

okay

yeah

I know what you felt the other day when I was looking at it no yeah I totally I totally get that I think I was always kind of and I've always been kind of someone who is okay being alone.

I like it.

Yeah.

Same.

People talk about

how awkward it is to go to movies alone or go to eat alone.

I love that.

I'd go to a movie alone.

I'd go to a restaurant, eat by myself.

So I think that, and then doing Richard Street for 21 years just exacerbated that

and made it way even more so.

As someone who's naturally an introvert,

because of the job, I spent a lot of energy trying to combat that.

Going out and meeting people, doing events, and

putting on that extrovert hat.

So I think doing this for 21 years has made the private introvert me even more so.

So it's tough.

Absolutely, it is tough.

And it is only, yeah, and it's only gotten tougher as I've gotten older because now the longer we do it, the more

of a presence you have in the world, the more recognizable you are.

And so the more people approach you, which is great, which is awesome, actually.

But for introverts like yourself and I,

it gets a little harder as we get older.

And so we have to work a little bit more, I think, to maintain relationships.

Yeah, for sure.

But yeah,

like you said,

we're going to figure out a way to continue.

We just don't have any news or know what that is.

If it sounds vague, it's because we have to be, because there's just so many things out of our control to control.

Because it's vague.

Because our futures are vague right now.

I don't know.

Like, if it's unsettling to you or frustrating, I promise you it's doubly so for us.

Because it is, I'm not the kind of person that does well without control and not getting to be in control and not having a rigid plan in front of me that I can follow at my speed, you know.

And like, there's a lot of hurry up and wait right now.

It's like being in the army again, a lot of like just waiting for other people to make decisions about my future and my life.

And so it's, it's, uh, it's a bit maddening, but

I'm not gonna let this stop.

Yeah,

I hear you.

Same, same.

Um, all right, right.

That's it for this episode.

No, no, no.

So,

back to the topic of Mozart.

It's out like in kind of west of downtown, right?

Like, if you take one of those streets from downtown and just keep going west, you eventually end up out over here.

Yeah, take Lake Austin Boulevard, which is essentially Caesar Chavez.

No.

6th Street.

6th Street, I guess, turns into Lake Austin Boulevard.

Depends on the street.

Pass Mopac.

Yeah.

You'll pass Redbutt Isle on the left.

It's awesome.

You should check that out if you get a chance.

And then, yeah, you keep going and you end up out here at Oyster Landing, which is really, really nice.

I lived not too far from here down Lake Austin Boulevard, a little east of here, over by where the HEB is now.

It used to be a Randall's back then.

I lived there for a while.

It's like a very hoity-toity part of town.

Yeah.

I rented that house.

We have talked about it before.

I rented it from Modi's, the restaurant.

But

there's a shopping center up Exposition a little bit.

I think it's Exposition in Windsor, if I remember right.

I was pointing that out on the way down here.

It's where the Austin Pets Alive is and the beer plant.

That

shopping center is owned by someone who's a vegan, and she only leases

to businesses that are animal-friendly or don't use animal products.

Like, that's why the beer plant is there.

There's a vegan grocery store there called Rabbit Food Grocery.

The Austin Pets Alive is there.

The holiday house used to be, well, there used to be a holiday house there a long time ago, but I believe that's why she didn't renew their lease way back then.

And it's like someone who, but someone who, like, I guess, really sticks to their convictions.

But I guess, you know, it's easy when if you can afford a strip mall in Terrytown, you probably don't have to worry about making the rent every month.

Yeah, the most expensive part of town.

And it's just like, I don't know, picking the litter here.

It's fine.

Yeah.

Wow.

That's crazy.

Yeah, it's,

I,

I admire it, but man, that's a, that's a, that's a commitment to uh to not wanting money.

You ever go to those places?

Yeah, I go to that grocery store quite a bit.

You've been to beer plant a lot.

Yeah, I've been to the beer plant also quite a bit.

Not so much Austin Pets alive.

I've got a dog already.

I'm good.

You can get more.

No.

Come on, do your part.

I'm good.

This one's already expanded.

Don't you want all of this to fall apart and then you all have dog problems at the same time?

No, I'm good.

But yeah, I like those businesses over there.

But I'm, I don't know, I guess I'm rarely on this part of town.

If I'm here, it's specifically to go to those places.

There's like even the stuff, the other stuff over here, like the HEB, which is like, I think the newest HEB in town, there's a million other H-EBs closer to where I live that I'd go to before this one.

If I'm over here, it's one of two reasons.

I'm either on my bike, because I go to Red Butt Isle on my bike a lot.

You know how I have, in the fuck face lore, I have my bench that I go cry at in the park at Zilka Park.

Red Butt Isle is my smile bench.

Oh, that's where I go when I'm in a good mood to sit and

not cry.

But also, right over here on the other side where the boat ramp is, that's where we do a lot of jet skiing from.

Like, one of the dudes that we rent jet skis from rents out it sometimes they're under 360 but sometimes they're right here and then we just like

they move around they're not in like the same spot no no because they're just throwing them in the water and then rent them to people it is a totally oh so it doesn't have oh gotcha I figured it was like a business you went down

to

a daily slip fee and then they put their like six jet skis in the water

I think it's probably just a guy with some jet skis and he's like yeah you can run for me Tony come to Tony's jet skis his name's not Tony but it's very similar yeah it's like back in the day like food trucks would drive around you'd have to follow him on social media you got to like follow him on social media media to find out where the jet skis are.

Right, but doesn't that make sense for food trucks to go to be mobile and not to be in one fucking place the whole time?

That doesn't make any sense for a food truck.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I hate that.

Yeah,

I think that was like at the very inception of food trucks.

You saw that, but they stopped that.

It bothers me so much that they are in,

yeah, here's this food truck park.

This is where we are all the time.

That's just a restaurant.

That's a restaurant.

And it's not even a good restaurant.

It's a more expensive restaurant that I have to go sit at fucking park benches at.

Just because it's not literally made from brick and mortar doesn't mean it's not a brick and mortar.

Exactly.

That's how it feels.

And so when people here talk about like, yeah, man, we got like this food truck scene.

It's like, these don't go anywhere.

These are just places I have to go to.

I hate this.

There's a food truck park I drove by up on North Lamar the other day.

It's like past 183, not quite all the way to Rundberg.

It's on the east side of Lamar.

It was a little food truck park that had a big sign by the road because you had to like drive through a park not to get there.

And there were a bunch of food trucks all parked around.

And the sign by Lamar advertised Mexican, Honduran, and Chinese food.

Whoa.

I was like, hell yeah.

I want to go check that out.

Then there was a sign, like one of those flashing illuminated signs

by the food truck park that in Spanish advertised a playground for kids.

I was like, okay, cool, cool.

My first roommate and friend in the Army was Honduran.

And he was the horniest man I've ever met in my entire life.

Is that right?

All he did was talk about women all day long.

He was also like 18, I think.

No, he was probably

30.

He was yeah, he was, he was joy.

He was using the military to get citizenship.

And like he had been in the Honduran military for a long time.

And then, man, he had a crazy story about joining the Honduran military, too.

He said, like, back then, because this is in the 90s, and so he was older than me, so I think he was in the Honduran military in the mid-80s.

He said he and his friends, you would just have to dodge the military because they would just grab you and take you.

And he said, one time he and his friends went to a movie when he was about, I think, 18 or 19.

And he said they walked out the movie theater into the back of a truck that was just dude like waiting for him.

And then he was just like, You're in the military now.

I'm in the army now.

Yeah.

And that was how it happened.

Damn.

He was like, didn't go home that night.

My mom didn't know if I was dead or in the military.

Yeah.

That's why.

Anyway, that dude loved,

loved,

loved love.

That dude loved love.

I think about him all the time still, even though that was.

This wasn't the dude who talked Sloppy Pussy into the internet, was it?

No, it was years later.

No.

This dude was way cooler than that.

Someone left that comment on the message board on the ANMA website, by the way.

Someone just typed Sloppy Pussy to the public.

That's post.

I was like, that's funny.

Got it.

Awesome.

What the fuck?

His name was Hakobo.

That's cool.

I've never heard that name before.

Hakobo?

I guess it's like Jacob.

Ah, okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

That was his name.

Maybe it's Decan Honduras, right?

Yeah.

I could tell you his whole name, but then we would have to believe it.

No, no, no.

That's fine.

I also don't want to know it.

Yeah.

I feel like I would be liable for something if I knew his whole name.

Only for the next seven weeks.

That's Lord of the problem.

Then we can do whatever we want.

Yeah.

I've been trying to

be around, talk to people, lift people's spirits at the office.

And I think it's always disharming when I make a joke about how much time we have left.

Yeah, I know.

I think hopefully people are okay with it.

I made a couple of jokes on the...

On the this is not a good buy stream that people took way too seriously.

I feel like I realized maybe I shouldn't be making any jokes right now.

Yeah,

you got to be very careful about it.

Yeah, all speculation right now, huh?

Yeah, well, all I was saying is that somebody said something about unbleeping face, and I said, I don't care.

We don't own it anymore.

We don't.

We never did.

It's always, it's been Rooster Teeth or Warner Brothers, but all I was saying is that it's their property.

We may take it, we may not.

We have all that shit to figure out, but man, people really ran with that for a second.

Yeah.

Well, yeah,

they're trying to get any kernel of information from anything,

any conversation.

can I uh just walk back a little bit and say, uh, you're at the office lifting spirits?

Is that what you mean?

Yeah, a lot of people down in the dumps.

I was at the office just crying and hugging people right that's what I was doing, I was lowering spirits, if anything.

I just picture you, I picture Gus walking around like doing a cartwheel and being like, hey, what's up?

It's me, Zaney Gus.

We're like a squeaky rubber red though.

Hong Kong.

Seven.

You're like when Robin Williams went to visit Christopher Reed.

Hey, it's me, Patch Adams.

Oh, man.

Oh, that's fucking great.

You know me, I'm Zaney.

I'm wild.

I'm wacky.

I make people laugh for a living for 21 years.

I'm a comedian.

You describing yourself as someone going to the office to live spiritual

is so funny to me.

It's so funny.

Well, it's

not too hard these days.

It doesn't take much.

That's so funny.

Okay.

Anything, so

this area, I guess,

has it always been like

the parking sucks.

Is that what you're getting at?

Yeah.

Like, it hasn't always been this crowded, right?

Yeah, it has.

Well, I guess it used to be easier to park down here, but it's still.

The parking lot itself is so tiny here.

It's not nearly enough to support all of this.

There's the place across the street over there

that there's a very tiny sign telling you there's more parking over there by the LCRA building.

But most of the time, you have to go over there.

We ran someone off.

That was pretty awesome.

But it's always been bad down here.

Yeah.

It's always been dog shit.

Especially here, if you come in and you turn in front of Mozart's and you take that right, there's no other exit out on that side.

So if you come in this way, yeah, there's no parking, you got to try to figure out how to turn around.

And invariably, someone will come in behind you way too close, and then there's not enough room to do it.

I hate coming down on this side.

There's a parking lot up here behind those trees where most people park and then walk down the hill.

When I just had this memory,

it just blew me away.

I'd forgotten about this.

I live in Austin because of that parking lot.

Really?

I think so.

I mean, for a myriad of reasons, but

when I was living in New Jersey after I'd gotten out of the army and I was doing like I was

doing like trying to get in with ViewSkew, I was PAing and stuff, and then I was working at the video store as it was going under.

And then I was roadieing also for that Sky Punk Band Catch 22.

And we were on tour,

and it was

like December 11th.

And I had been in the Army

at Fort Hood, so I was pretty familiar with Austin.

So I remembered this area.

And the guys were like, Where's a safe place for us to sleep in the van tonight?

And I went, Oh, I know.

I think I know a place.

It's kind of tree-lined, and it can be safe.

And so we lived in the van in that parking lot for like two days because we had like two shows here.

And so I spent like two nights parking in that parking lot.

And every day we'd get up, and it would be like

70 degrees degrees in the morning because it was December in Austin.

So it's beach weather.

And I was wearing like a t-shirt and I was thinking,

there's like black ice everywhere in New Jersey.

Why the fuck am I going to live in New Jersey when I could live here?

And I was already in love with Austin because I'd been here for a couple of years in the Army.

And so

there was some other stuff that happened that caused me to also want to move.

But when I made that decision in the parking lot that day, I was living in Austin like six days later.

I flew home.

Loaded up your stuff, came to me.

My first wife had cheated on me, I found out as well.

And so we needed to move out of New Jersey.

That was a big thing, too.

But I was like, fuck it, we're moving to Austin.

And so we packed up everything we had and moved to Austin.

And if I hadn't stayed in that fucking parking lot for two days and worn a t-shirt for in December, I might not have lived here.

Do you remember where it is?

Can we take a photo of it and post it on social media?

The parking spot?

Sure.

Where it happened?

Yeah, I do.

Yeah, it's a big parking lot up there.

I think

so.

This is the these buildings over here.

It's the L C R A it's the Lower Colorado River Authority.

They regulate I guess like the lake levels and they do they have awesome like

camping shit you can rent to what?

Yeah, L C R A has like campgrounds and stuff you can rent out around town, like especially over on the east side.

Oh, really?

Really, really great places to camp.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know that either.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Huh.

Yeah.

You just go through them and you can rent the stuff out?

Yeah.

Just like you go to like a state park.

Huh.

They manage a lot of campgrounds.

Oh, that's crazy.

I'd never even heard of that.

I've never heard that acronym or anything.

Millie went to like an overnight LCRA camp one year.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

I didn't know that that was a thing in Austin.

That's pretty cool.

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uh I got an episode a comment here I'm gonna read uh okay uh right now on the episode this is uh okay I got a message from Cameron from Cameron it's a person we work with yeah yeah Cameron at RT yeah yeah okay

per anima

mayo's commercial mayo commercials is an industry thing okay oh okay cool was in LA for a shoot last year and was walking around downtown on an off day came across a street that was shut down for filming and wanted to check it out.

I think it was for Marvelous Miss Mazel, all 50s, 60s, era vintage cars, a ton of extras and period costumes.

Asked a PA what show they were filming, and he told me it was a Mayo commercial.

Oh, there you go.

All right.

It figures that it would be an industry thing, not a local thing.

Yeah, definitely.

So thank you, Cameron.

Thanks, Cameron.

Good enough for me.

Yeah.

Okay, great.

So there,

that was our big burning question from last week.

That's good.

No hanging chads as we wrap up this podcast.

Yeah, that's right.

That's a timely reference.

That was pretty good, man.

Way to go.

224 years ago, right on.

Hell yeah.

Straight.

Hell yeah.

Welcome to Anvil.

Isn't that what this podcast is?

I mean, man, if you were going to make a reference, that would be.

We talked about voting in that election like last week or two weeks ago.

So we did.

It is a very timely reason.

I went and I voted.

Oh, I did too.

Yeah.

They ran out of stickers and people were upset.

Really?

Yeah.

I just, I printed my thing out and then slid it through and the guy's like, we don't have stickers.

And I went, I don't care.

I'm fine.

And I left.

Like,

it's cool, man.

It's all good.

I left a sticker on a shirt.

One of those, I voted stickers on my shirt once, and it went through the washing machine and dryer.

And when it came out, the sticker came off, but then there was like an oval of like

this that was embedded in the shirt.

I eventually did, but it was a pain in the squirt it with Googan or something?

Yeah, and then like soak it for a long time.

It eventually came out, but man, that sucked.

So

remove your stickers.

I'm very skeptical.

I'm very wary of the stickers now.

I put mine in my wallet.

Huh.

Yeah.

That makes sense.

You don't watch that.

I try not to.

Does it bother anyone else the constant misuse of the three words wary, weary, and leery?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, me and Jeff were just talking about that.

Stop online.

Oh, and me and Jeff were getting so mad about it, too.

People use those three words almost interchangeably, and invariably they pick the wrong one every time.

It's a whole there, they're, there situation, but these are three totally different words.

I can't remember the last time I've read somebody say they were leery of anything.

Yeah, because they say they're weary of it now.

Why would they say that?

I don't know.

Because they want to sound smart and they use the wrong word.

And two of those words are very similar.

And they still managed to make it fuck up.

Can I just say something right now?

I'd be wary of anyone who uses weary for leery.

Why is that?

I would be leery of it.

Oh.

I would be jeery as I am right now.

Where did this come from?

This is just a thing.

This is a gus.

This is just a thing.

Oh, he said be wary of the sticker, and it made me think about how mad I was about this.

At least you didn't tell them to be leery of Gus.

Be wary of Gus.

I'm weary of this conversation.

Be leery of dog.

I just hate it.

This is like, I don't know, in general, I know language changes, but this is, I can't, these are like three words that mean different things.

Right, right.

This isn't changing language.

This is people just using it wrong.

But then it becomes adopted.

Yes.

And it becomes standard and it becomes accepted.

I do think with changing language, it's the way that...

Do you remember, because we've been on the internet for so long, how

important it was for everyone's grammar to be so fucking perfect when you were in an online argument?

Oh, yeah.

You don't want to give them an opening.

And if you had any bad grammar, boy, you're getting sunk.

Yeah.

I think it's just because grammar used to be important.

It used to be.

The internet killed.

Social media and the internet killed grammar.

It used to be so like crucial to write that way, and now it's not.

Now that seems very like strict and like you're upset to use a period at the end of stuff.

If you didn't use use proper grammar when I was growing up, up until the internet, like pre-internet, if you didn't use proper grammar,

you looked stupid and it undercut everything you said.

You lost.

Now, if you use proper grammar, people think you're being aggressive and an asshole.

It is so fucking weird to flip on that.

Let's litter those litterati.

Simpsons reference?

Yeah, totally, totally Simpson.

Everything's a Simpsons reference.

I realized, my wife and I were talking the other day.

We realized at some point in our life, we became homer in March and didn't realize it.

Oh, yeah.

It's like you go from

being young.

Well, no, you go from being young to like, you start watching stuff, you're like, oh, I'm the old person now.

Like, I'm on the other side of it.

I'm the

adult in these.

Well, that's what Abe Simpson says, right?

It used to be with it.

And then it changed?

Yeah.

There's a tattoo.

Derek from Mega 64 had an idea for a tattoo, and somebody actually drew it, and we got stickers of it.

That is, it says it'll happen to you or whatever, and it is like a

the sands of time in like a clock, and it is the top is Bart, and the sands go down into Homer.

And it's like, oh, that's fucking genius.

I love it.

That's it.

I mean, that really is.

We've had that conversation a lot at Mega 64 where it was like, oh, yeah, we were all Bart Simpson, and now we're all Homer, and there's nothing you can do about it.

That's just what he's doing.

That's his grandpa.

Yeah, you got to put off becoming grandpa as long as you can.

Yep.

Yep.

So speaking of which, I'm actually glad you brought it up Mega 64.

I wanted to touch on them very briefly.

You know,

we're closing shop after 21 years, just over 21 years.

And I think we have the high score on the internet for now.

Yeah.

But, you know, after we close shop in several weeks, you know, Mega64 will very quickly pass us.

They started right pretty much the same time we did, I think.

Maybe just a couple months after us.

I don't know.

I don't remember exactly when.

But they will very quickly pass us.

And I'm glad it's them passing us

on the leaderboard.

And

I think it's just a reminder to everyone, if there's content, especially independent content you like on the internet, support it.

Go subscribe to Omega 604's Patreon.

Go buy some merch from them.

And

it's not enough just to watch their stuff.

Give them some financial backing.

Make sure that they're still around.

I want them to be firmly entrenched.

If anyone's going to beat us, I want it to be them, and I want it to be a good lead.

I think that's an incredibly important thing you just said.

Like, Like, seriously, if there are content creators out there, and I'm not talking about what Gus and I do next or face going on or face jammer any of this stuff.

I mean, I am to a degree, but I'm speaking more broadly.

If it's if you love the Are You Garbage podcast or Crime Junkie or whatever it is that you're into, I realize I just picked Crime Junkie, which is like the most successful podcast.

They picked like the...

If you like Smartless.

If you're a fine of the Dateline NBC podcast.

If you like this American Life.

But no, if you like the cult podcast, the thing that Armando does or whatever,

it is no longer enough just to listen or watch.

And if you don't want to see independent creators go the way of the dinosaur, you got to support them.

I'm going to make sure that for the rest of my life I do, or at least I try to, and I hope to.

And

I hope other people will because,

I mean, it's a bummer for us to lose our whole job and our career and our jobs and all of the people in Roosh Teeth that are going through this right now.

And I don't want anybody else to have to go through it unnecessarily.

I really don't.

But also,

I mostly just wanted to say, I agree with you.

I love Mega 64.

I can't think of anybody I would want to see succeed past us more than them.

And I would be honored to get to be second place to them in the longest running thing.

Yeah, 100%.

Been doing it and doing it right the entire fucking time.

I knew they took it seriously that Rooster Teeth was shutting down when they weren't online making jokes about it right away.

I was shocked.

I was like, where's the Mega 64 joke?

I think that they were very, when I talked to them and everything, they were pretty stunned.

And I anticipated a little bit.

I got like, there was nothing.

They didn't throw anything out there.

And I just went, oh, I think they're sad.

Yeah.

I'm sorry we made you sad.

They were always our best friends

in the industry.

Really, really love those guys.

I mean, and goddamn, if we didn't, if we didn't develop a relationship with them, we wouldn't have you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm lucky to have benefited from that whole thing.

And

Mega 64 has only become more successful since I left.

And then I came here, secret sabotage stopped.

Yeah, you destroyed us.

Yeah, yeah, in from the inside.

And then now I can slink back.

Your master plan.

Yeah, finally.

That's what I put my life on the line for it.

It's a whole Departa situation going on.

Now I'm really thinking about it.

I'm not sure why I did it, but it's done.

Yeah,

I think there's a lot to be said for independent creation staying at a size that is manageable.

But, but, but you have to have

those people who take the bigger swings, who try to achieve a little bit more, who try to go a little bit further, who try to overreach just a little bit.

Because if you don't, everyone's going to stay at a very small level and you're never going to see growth in that medium.

And when you look at people like Giant Bomb or like Rooster Teeth or whatever, you can't look at, oh, well, it's over, man.

That thing sucked and now it's over.

And it's like, oh man, that's,

this is probably the job I've worked at the longest without quitting.

I mean, you're six years, something like that.

And

like,

it's a long time to have a company stay in business before going out of business.

And that doesn't make it a failure.

It means that the company just went as far as it was going to go.

Yeah.

And that's success.

That, that, to me.

21 years of success.

That's success.

That's a long time.

The company changed.

The internet landscape change.

A lot of things change.

But

every day for 21 years, Gus and I, and a hell of a lot, a hell of a lot of really passionate and driven and talented people, and then also Michael,

got up every day.

And our whole job was to just to make people laugh.

And we didn't succeed every day.

Maybe some days we missed the boat, but

it wasn't because of the effort.

Every single day, everybody poured everything they had into just trying to make the people that were interested in watching it laugh for a little bit.

And I got to do that for more than two decades.

Like when I was growing up, we talk about this a lot, generational changes.

When I was growing up, you worked at a company for 20 years and then you retired.

You know, the Army,

if I'd stayed in the Army for 20 years, I would have retired.

You know, at 37.

Here I am at 48.

So it's like, it's hard to look back at 21 years of getting to wake up every day and go to work with the best people you've ever met and get to be as creative and support the creativity of those around you.

And all with under the, all with the simple idea, the simple goal of just making somebody else's life a little brighter for a little while.

Yeah.

What the fuck, man?

We're the luckiest people on earth that we have.

Absolutely.

Like, it's hard to look back at,

it's hard to look at the uncertainty of the future for us and for all of those affected.

But it's, and that's scary, but it's hard to look back at the last 20 years and think of it as anything other than

maybe the biggest success I'll ever be a part of.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, I think, you know, I didn't mention this in the past, but it's like, so, you know, this will have run 21 years.

In another 21 years, I'll be past retirement age.

Like, this will be the longest chunk of my life.

Yeah.

I've dedicated to anything.

Yeah.

Like, for the.

And I'm not letting you off the hook.

You're still going.

We're still doing this.

Yeah, we got to, yeah, we got to figure this out.

This is an am the next week.

Yeah, we got to put that out.

We got a few more, guys.

And then who knows where we take it from there?

I think a thing that...

Derek from Mega64 had said, they did a keynote speech at PAX one year, which, again, another thing that like you take those big swings and look at what PAX is compared to what PennyArcade is and everything.

You have like those larger things.

And, you know, it's interesting to see.

But a thing that Derek said was like, when you're independent, like Mega 64, you're employed every day that you choose to be employed.

You, when you're independent, every day that you wake up and you go, yep, I'm doing it again today.

Yeah.

That's employment.

That's employment.

And when you're at a company like this, like what Rooster Teeth became, like the size of it and everything, it didn't have to be a yes, everyday thing because it was, it became sort of like this larger thing.

But I think what we found in a lot of that stuff is the stuff that we love to do to wake up and be like, I want to do this thing today.

This is the thing I want to do today.

And that's why I'm excited to see what's next and where we go and et cetera, et cetera, and what plans are next and everything.

Because I'm just, I'm, I'm excited to say yes to a lot of stuff and see where we go.

It's freeing in a way.

It is.

It is.

I mean, it's not that this was a shackle in any way, but you hear a term like golden handcuffs and it is hard to turn down a paycheck.

But at the same time, like

sometimes you need a little bit of a kick to go, all right, what are we doing now?

And that's what we're going to figure out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I also think, too, like, if you look at it, and it really, it really helps, moments like this really help

internally elucidate your own priorities and passions, right?

Because Roost Teeth has a little bit longer to go.

We're winding up in May or whatever.

We don't have to continue to make ANMA.

No.

Like, if I had texted you this morning and said,

I'm not into this, we wouldn't be doing it.

Totally anticipating you guys this weekend saying no.

To do it next week or the week after or the week after, we're still going to get our severance and the whole thing.

So we're here making ANMA.

I got up this morning and took a shower because I was excited to come and do this again with you guys.

And it really helps me realize, like,

I could fold up shop and quit and go try to figure out a new life that has nothing to do with entertainment.

And I'd have every right to do that.

And I don't think anybody could begrudge me for doing that.

But instead, I woke up and I thought, all right, that chapter's closing.

How do we build the new better chapter so that we can keep doing this?

Because I just want to do this with you guys.

Yeah,

I was really odd last week.

You know, the news

came out on Wednesday, and we had a stinky dragon recording on Thursday.

And, you know, I got together with the crew Thursday morning.

And I was like, hey, you know, if you guys don't want to do this, or if you want to wait, you know, delay, take some time to process, like, we don't have to do this.

We can push it, we can wait, we can figure it out.

And every single person without hesitation was like, no, we're recording today.

I want, like, this is the thing I look forward to.

Yeah, this is the thing I'm passionate about.

Like, let's go do this.

And it was one of our best recordings, I think.

We did the same thing for Face Jam.

We just did an episode like the day after, and it was like, oh, yeah, it was that day.

Yeah.

Yeah, we walked out and went like, that was a good fucking episode.

Like, it was fun.

It's great.

I felt the same way with face.

Yeah.

Like, I left the recording of face to drive in to do the this is not a good buy stream.

And it was like, it really helped going into that stream too.

That we had had an hour together to laugh and and be cathartic it's fun and so i'm i'm excited about what we do next and who knows what it is and stay tuned for updates at anima podcasts or probably maybe our personal socials but you know we'll figure that out anarchymeanything.com anarcho meeting i built a platform for us that's true anarchyanything.com i think

it's time to dust off the under construction yeah no kidding it's as good as it's gonna get i will say i i this i i updated the website with the most recent episode this morning and i was like hmm i could fix the numbering on the archive but that seems kind of point yeah

I didn't I'll fix it eventually yeah um let's talk about Mozart's because we're kind of winding down on time I feel like we did no no let's talk about Mozart's I got the regular black coffee you got the cold brew that that is like a thing that they have on the board yeah like that is like such a thing they have it's like a marquee like yeah the highlight yeah that was like one of like three things that are like we have this this is what we're never and then you got the americano that took an hour to get it took a long long time.

They went like, oh, fuck, we got to like do coffee?

An Americano?

What's that?

And then you guys each got tacos, and I got a blueberry muffin.

What kind of tacos did you get?

I got a bacon, egg, and cheese tacos.

And then you.

Mine was potato, egg, and cheese.

Okay, and so, um,

what did you think about the coffee?

Uh, coffee is a six.

This Americano is better than I expected.

Wow, really?

It's not amazing.

Yeah.

This is not all gimmicks level Americano.

This is like a six and a half or a seven.

Yeah.

This is an acceptable Americano.

There's nothing wrong with it, but it's not amazing.

It's totally fine.

I would say this black coffee is like a six and a half.

It's fine.

It's good.

I got

so.

When you buy the black coffee here, they don't pour it for you.

They go, here's your cup.

And then there's like carafs off to like the side.

And they have a dark roast, they have a medium roast.

And then they had their light roast, which I was excited about.

And their light roast, South by Southwest roast.

The one that we made fun of on the way in.

We've got a special South by Southwest blend on the table as you wait in line.

And I had it.

And it's,

if I had, if I'd never been here before and I had that coffee, I would be like, oh, that's pretty good.

Like, it's fine.

But going to like a place and getting this coffee, I'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah.

They mixed a couple different beans together just in time.

That's not that great.

That's good.

Listen to this.

They're playing our theme song.

They're playing us out.

We can get an anarchy question, but I think that music means we have to wrap it up.

They're playing me off.

They're telling me to wrap up.

I actually really like, I like this question.

This is why I want to ask this.

This is, you can send us questions, r/slash animo podcast, which is a subreddit we don't run at animo podcast on socials.

This is from Phil the Hammer 02.

What happened to Phil the Hammer?

Oh, what?

I don't know.

He's done.

He got hammered.

Back when you guys were more heavily involved with RVB, which Halo game was your favorite to work with?

It seems like the DVD commentaries, as well as my own experience, they all had pros and cons for Machinima.

Do you guys have a favorite?

Absolutely.

Yeah, yeah.

Really?

My favorite was the original Combat Evolved.

Jeff shaking his head, no.

Halo 3.

Really?

Yeah.

Why?

It was just

easier to machinimate in.

I don't know.

Halo 1 was

a lot of fun.

Halo 2 sucks.

Halo 2 sucked to make machinimate.

Is that right?

Halo 2 was the most difficult.

It was the most difficult.

Here's why I say Halo 1 over Halo 3.

I felt that once theater mode got introduced, it kind of slowed things down and derailed things because we weren't capturing in the moment.

I liked the simplicity of Halo 1.

But we still could capture in the moment.

Right, but invariably, we tended not to.

We would capture and then go back, look at the theater mode file, and then like pick and choose things.

Where I felt like Halo 1, since you didn't have that, it was a lot more streamlined.

It was like, this is all, I felt like since it was more limited, it was more like, this is what we got, this is what we're working with.

Halo 3, it's not like what I'm saying, this is actually a compliment to Halo 3.

Like, there were too many options.

The world was too open.

Halo 1 was so simple, so few weapons, so few maps.

the tools weren't there.

It was almost freeing to be so narrowed down.

Like these are the only things we can do.

Oh, interesting.

I mean, some of the charm of Red versus Blue.

I would say a lot of the charm with Red vs.

Blue was that we were working with what we had.

We would talk about that a lot.

It was like,

to go back to a very old joke between Gus and I, it's not like I could drop a fondue pot into the map and go, all right, let's make jokes about that because it doesn't exist in the world.

So instead, we have a skull on the ground and we're like, like, okay, how do we make a skull funny?

There was a very low ceiling that we had to work under, and it forced creativity.

And I think that part of it was awesome, but I also think we got as much blood out of that stone as humanly possible.

And when we moved to Halo 3, it freed us up to be more creative.

Yeah, for sure.

And I will say, now that I think about it, we only ever filmed in theater mode.

Once we got to Halo 3, because of the aspect ratio and being able to remove the reticle and the weapon.

I knew there was a rubber or something, and that was definitely it.

What seasons were each of these?

Could you name them?

Like, do you think offhand?

Halo 2 swap was in episode 43.

Okay.

Lasted till 60-something, maybe?

Yeah, the Halo 3 swap would have been.

I don't remember when we switched to Halo 3.

I can't remember.

Fuck.

I know the Halo 1 to Halo 2 swap because that was so monumental to us.

Yeah.

And the Halo 2 to Halo 3 swap also was, but I believe that was maybe season 5

when we switched to Halo 3.

Is that the one you were in the most

in the most like there was a really good uh simmons season oh that was uh that was season four or five yeah because that one that was halo 2 that was halo 2 yeah which one did you machinimate in no season four yeah you're right um

it would have been for me for me it would have been like season two or three yeah

which one

did i machinimate the most yeah i was pretty equal from one to seven i would say you probably did the most if i had to give you credit here, I think you probably did the most at season one

because I wasn't around.

Yeah.

Because I was in Puerto Rico doing the other stuff.

So by the time I came back, I think hopefully that helped alleviate some of the machinimating for you.

Machinimating was my main job until I spun off Achievement Hunter.

So it was what I did

most of the time.

And then when we weren't doing a new season of Red vs.

Blue, we were going back and remastering old seasons.

Oh, man.

People don't remember this, but when Halo, all the Halos hit PC, we redid, we reshot shot for shot, season one what to because now they were in hd because now we could put them in hd originally with standard death to re-release and everything yeah yeah it's one of the big things gavin did when we would bring him in for the summer he would uh he would just he would help recreate shot for shot for shot shot for shot slow motion

jason saldania that was a big thing he did too wow

what a pain wow that sounds crazy

so we were so even when we weren't making new seasons there was like that was a crazy thing about those early days

from like i would say up and through through

to ralph Albanedo I would say up to things switched at Ralph Albanedo but like through downtown was that we were machinimating red versus blue in some way constantly because if we weren't doing a season we were remastering an old season or we were doing commercial work for Microsoft or for

GameStop or for the Richards group or for who or the Wyden Kennedy or whatever ad agency but we were always doing some kind of machinimating not always in red vs.

blue but most of the time in red versus yeah so many videos, so many RVB videos came out that the audience never saw because they read a convention on a screen for three minutes, and then that was it.

So many.

Wow.

Thousands.

Yeah.

Well, maybe not thousands, but hundreds.

There were a lot.

Hundreds and hundreds.

We talked about it before making that video to introduce Steve Ballmer at the developers'

developers conference.

Like if you were a Microsoft employee, maybe you've seen way more than the normal person.

If you were a Microsoft employee 20 years ago, you've probably seen way more.

Or a bare-naked ladies fan in the 90s.

Yeah.

We did all their concert interstitials.

There were a bunch of them.

yeah

if you were a microsoft employee who was a bare-naked ladies fan you were set in the mid-2000s you saw it all you saw and if you if you moonlit as a manager at game stop yeah

you could you got the full experience you went to that managers conference we

we would make like i remember the fucking game stop managers conferences we'd have to make like 14 videos

they were a lot of work and then we'd we'd have to we'd also master special dvds for that uh-huh and then make special shirts for that as well too is that stuff laying around anywhere all those videos

Probably not.

Hard drives, maybe.

You'd have to ask Adam Baird.

Who knows where those are?

Wow.

That's crazy.

That lost media stuff is like, especially for people who are hardcore fans of

this.

I think it would be at this point in 2024 impossible to compile a full collection of Rooster Teeth content.

I would think so.

Yeah.

I would definitely think so.

Even red versus blue.

If you just use the

Halo Machine amid Rooster Teeth content, I don't think you could do it.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Well,

that'll do it for this episode.

This is a good one.

They turned the music down.

I appreciate that.

Yeah.

They let us finish.

Well, they saw us.

Yeah.

Let me know the song.

Let's get some room tone.

Jazam.

Hey, thanks for listening.

If you want to follow us at Anima Podcast on Instagram and on Twitter, you can see pictures from this episode and every episode from the past.

We have a few more before what we would typically do is a mid-season break where me and Jeff do music episodes and go get records and pizza.

Who knows what happens after this?

I have an idea.

Yeah.

Is it going to be a title card that says the end?

Question mark?

Well, it says the end for a long time, but then it says question mark after

just for a couple of frames.

So who knows what's going to be happening?

We have a few more episodes before we get to that break.

And I don't know.

Either way, keep up to date with us at Animopodcast and r slash Anima Podcast, the subreddit we do not run.

Yeah, I imagine we'll have a little bit more info next week and a little bit more than next week.

We're going to communicate it to you through this podcast as we have it.

Yeah.

A lot of this is getting solved in the car on the way to and from recordings.

Yeah.

That's when we have time.

Luckily, we drove a long way to do Creek.

It was definitely like

on the freeway.

We should do the next one out in like Round Rock.

I was thinking, I'm like, yeah, we'll go up to Lake Creek.

Let's do it by the Round Rock.

We'll go up to Lake Creek.

Give a fuck.

No.

I hate it so much.

Can we swim out and do it on the Round Rock?

Oh, hell yeah.

I'm sorry.

Swim out.

Make it happen.

Walk out.

Walk out.

Wade out.

It might be ankle deep.

Make what?

We can just do it.

All right.

Don't stop us.

All right.

Well, thanks for listening.

Any final thoughts you want to impart on these folks listening at home?

Just go ahead.

I'm not eating the round rock donuts.

I will.

Just thank you for the years upon years upon years of support.

Whether you've been with us since 2003 or whether you've been with us since 2024.

It means the world to us, and we're going to do everything in our power to keep talking.

Yeah, you can't shut me up that easy.

You can try, son of a bitch.

Bye.