Supplemental: Music Catch Up

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hey what's up it's another supplemental episode of uh anma where it's just uh it's eric and uh jeff because uh gus doesn't want to work uh the two extra episodes uh jeff how's it going it's going really well and i got to say eric i uh i was about to tell you i really look forward to these supplemental episodes and i don't know why and then it hit me when you said that gus isn't in them yeah Yeah, yeah, I think we've talked about that before.

It's, it's not, it's not a dislike for Gus.

It's just, you know, it's a different thing and Gus isn't here.

It's just, it's nice not to have to deal with his bullshit.

The negativity, I think, is what we really zeroed in on, I think, when we went to Des Nudo for a second time.

Yeah.

I tried going back to Desenudo.

This is probably like a couple of weeks ago or whatever.

And it was just like.

mid-morning, whatever.

Dude, the line was outrageous.

I just, I looked at it and I went, never mind.

And I left.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

I love that place, but it's already a bit of a drive for me to get there and then a drive to get there and then stand online for a half hour.

I am a double trouble guy now.

That's become my new jam.

You know, I really like it.

And you, uh, you gave me another thing of beans, the double trouble blend, which I've been really, really on.

And it's, man, it's so

fucking good.

That double trouble blend is so good.

Typically, I'm not a blend guy.

I don't really like, I like a single origin coffee, but that blend feels like, oh, they figured out like two different kinds of coffees that marry like really well together.

So it's like a totally different flavor.

Yeah, I really love it.

Really surprised.

I'm impressed.

I'm glad you liked it.

That's right.

Thank you.

How's your last couple of weeks doing now that we're going to get back into Anma soon?

Good, good.

Ready for, you know.

In the background, for the last year, I've been in the process of getting married.

And I mean, it didn't take me a year to get married, but it takes a year to plan a wedding and to pay for it and all of those things.

And so now that we're past that, I'm, I think Emily and I both are very excited to slip back into regular life where you don't have that hanging over your head, you know?

Yeah.

And I feel like I can finally like relax.

And I'm really, really excited to get back into all three podcasts because I feel like even when I, even for the last like six months, even, or especially for like the last three months, even though I was all in and loving everything I was making, I still had, you know, this impending wedding and all of the stress that that entails in the back of my head.

And so I'm happy to be relieved of that pressure.

Yeah, it's definitely a thing where

it's not like it hindered our plans or anything.

No, it's definitely a thing where it's like, oh, we can't do something this day.

Jeff has, he has to go taste cakes or, oh, we have to go get fitted for stuff.

Or, oh, it's like, there's just like a lot of stuff like that where

it's not, it's like, okay, we just have to move dates.

I just don't think we're going to have to move dates very much.

No, I mean, we'll have the holidays to contend with, but post that, I'm so excited to slip into a rhythm again.

And it's not even like, it just occupied

an amount of space in my brain and my subconscious and sometimes conscious thought that just, you know,

I'm just happy.

I'm happy it went well, and I'm happy that it's

great.

It was great.

It was a great time.

But I think the thing that we should talk about

now, now that we're doing a supplemental.

Let's talk about music.

Let's talk about music.

Let's talk about music.

So the last time we had supplementals, we were both sort of on this track of like, yeah, I haven't really been listening to like a ton of different stuff.

I haven't really like, there's not really like stuff I want to talk about, like that kind of thing.

But

when we said, oh, we're going to do some more supplementals this time, we both landed on like, do I got a bunch of music I want to talk about?

Yeah, I've, uh, it's funny, like the ebb and flow of it.

And you and I both seem to ebb and flow in the same cycle.

But yeah, I, uh, since that last one where we decided not to talk about music, because neither of us had a lot to bring to the table, I've just, it's just like been an explosion of new stuff.

So what have you been, what have you been like really on?

Is there like a genre or like a thing that you've been really about?

I don't know

if this applies.

Well, I guess sort of.

I didn't think so.

But I put together a playlist today just of stuff to talk about, just so that I would have it easily in front of me and I wouldn't have to be scrolling through my main playlist of course.

And it seems to be a lot of like 60s garage and blues.

What got you there?

Just nothing?

You just grabbed it out of nowhere?

I don't know, man.

I mean, mean I've always been a fan of like garage music and so that's always kind of in the periphery and then a lot of what I've been picking up lately is from trucks with Bernie and Antonio

We have the players going in the background at all times and they listen to so much music and so I've just been picking up little bits here and there and for whatever reason, you know, they look they have a similarly to us, they have a wide range of musical tastes.

Yeah.

But for whatever reason, that's the stuff that's just been sticking out to me.

So I've just been collecting it all.

What have you been listening to specifically?

Okay, so the first song I'll talk about is this song called I'll Carry On by a guy named by Gene.

I guess his name is G-E-N-E.

Okay.

The name is just Gene, the team beats.

But anyway,

I'll carry on.

That's a fucking awesome, awesome, awesome.

I could say awesome a few more times, if it really drives the point home, but just a really good garage

rock and roll song.

Is it like vocals and stuff or is it like more instrumental?

Okay.

No, it's vocals and stuff and it's just catchy.

It's just real fucking catchy.

Like two and a half minute song, real short song.

That's cool.

I've been sort of in that vein.

There's a band that I like called Davey Allen and the Arrows.

I don't know if that's ever a thing that you are ever like really into or whatever, but they're very,

it's instrumental.

And it's very sort of like the ventures, like really heavy fuzz kind of sound and everything yeah and uh if you're looking for an album blues theme is a really good one they just have a lot of um

they have like a lot of themes and stuff from old i think shows and things like that from like the 60s and i think that it might if that's what you're into right now yeah davey allen and the arrows might be like right up your alley um okay i added blues theme yeah yeah give it a shot i you know it might be something you're into it might not it might be something where you just go well it's not this uh but i do think that it's probably pretty close to where you're landing with some of this stuff um

what about you oh but i i just got on a kick again of uh listening to jim crochet oh yeah i'm always on a jim coachy kick yeah it uh like

i'll put jim crochet on and it is so what a mix of

upbeat and sad uh he died when he was 30.

did you know he was only 30.

yeah that's very young Crazy.

His plane hit a tree.

Should have probably died at 27, but he died after three years.

All right.

Well, I heard 30 is the new 27.

Oh, there you go.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He when, I mean, I've always loved Jim Koshi a lot.

I grew up listening to him with my mom.

You know, it's definitely my mom's era.

Oh, yeah.

But I used to sing, or we used to sing Operator to Millie when she was a baby to get to sleep.

It's great.

God, I love that song.

It's just like an easy lullaby kind of song to sing.

Yeah.

I think that's such a great.

sound.

He has such a great sound and he wrote so many great songs.

And I just, man, I just really love him.

The dude could make something so emotionally evocative

in such a simple way.

It was really, it was interesting lyrically how he could strip down and

to just like,

I don't know, express a beautiful or heartbreaking point.

Yeah.

And

very weird, like little connection to San Diego.

He had a restaurant, or i guess his family like in the name

had a restaurant in uh san diego called croachies really yeah um

they they had moved to san diego right before he died i don't know like i don't know if people know that it was it i think like a month before he died or whatever him and his wife had moved to san diego and then she'd opened this sort of like jazz bar

not really like nightclub it was like a restaurant sort of jazz restaurant kind of thing called Croachies downtown.

It's closed now, like everything else, but um, yeah, it was a cool little spot just downtown.

And you'd been there, yeah, yeah.

Crochies was on like, I think it was on like fifth, and it was just a place where dinner and drinks and jazz and all that kind of stuff.

Very cool spot, Croachies in San Diego.

It's, I mean, I don't know what so

when did it close down, like pandemic?

Oh, god, no, no, probably like, probably like 20,

probably like 2014, 2016, sometimes

his family was still running it.

Yeah, yeah, I think, I think they still had it.

I don't think it was still,

I think that his, not his wife, but like his family had taken it over or whatever.

And then I think it just got to a point where it was like, I don't think there's any money in this and they had to get rid of it.

So, um, but yeah, he's a very cool little spot in San Diego called Croachies.

I always thought that was a nice little connection.

What kind of food?

It was like a really like small plates kind of thing.

So it was like, you know, appetizers in a cocktail and listening to cool jazz.

Like that, it was just like that kind of spot.

Nice.

Yeah.

It was very,

it seemed like a place where if he had been alive and then it had opened and done all like that stuff, it would have been a place where a lot of like smaller acoustic stuff probably would have come through

like the 70s and everything, which I think would have been really cool.

Now, is it heavily Jim Crochy?

No, no, it was just kind of like in name.

And I remember there being like a couple of like, maybe like pictures on the wall but um

it was really more just it was in the name and then it was very much like you knew that that was like the music spot like there were always bands that came through bands you'd never heard of i i knew about this thing because of i worked for a smooth jazz radio station in san diego yeah for four years so they would do they would do like brunches or or different like events like at crochets they would have sort of like bands come through every once in a while and then you'd have to go drive the van downtown and set up the

sticker giving out thing.

And it was just that.

What else have you been hitting?

What else have you been listening to?

Let's see.

I'll try to encapsulate it.

So, you know, I've been listening to a lot of African music.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

A lot of, and so I'll just name a couple of musicians all at once.

There's a song called It's Not Easy by Ofegi, I believe is how you say it, O-F-E-G-E, which is a really fantastic song, just really good, like soulful rock and roll song there's a song i think we played it at my wedding actually called kala my friend k-h-a-l-a my friend by aminaz a-m-a-n-a-z and that's like a this like

just like this like

just this real sweet slow song uh where a guy's just talking about a friend that's going on a journey and he's gonna miss them and he hopes they don't go

What else?

William Onyabor, of course.

And if you listen to the So Alright podcast, which is the other podcast, the solo podcast I do, I actually cover music a lot more than often than I realized.

I just did a whole episode on William Onyabor, who was this African, Nigerian, uh, like rock and roll and electric music pioneer.

And so, uh, Atomic Bomb I put on the playlist for that.

Uh,

that's that's about all that I pulled from Africa.

Yeah.

Or at least from that portion of the music I'm listening to.

So Ofegi, Amanaz, and William Onyabor.

That's good stuff.

That's great.

Yeah.

Those three songs are just like, you can't listen to those three songs and not fall in love with that music.

Yeah, you were telling me and Gus about it before we were recording Anma, or just about that stuff that you've been listening to and

how into it you were and sort of like the story behind some of it and everything.

You're talking about kind of putting it together for So All Right and everything.

And I thought it sounded so cool.

I think that's so awesome.

Yeah, it's just like, you know, I don't know.

I think we as Americans get so trapped into the idea that we're the, when it comes to music and movies and entertainment, we export to the rest of the world.

And we very, very often, through hubris or just, I don't know, media bias, we never ingest music coming in from the rest of the world.

And

sometimes stuff breaks through.

William Onyabor broke through like in 2010.

I think he, you know, almost, he was almost dead at that point.

But there's these whole swaths of like, of scenes around the world that we just that just don't ever touch us that are so fabulous and and so full of like you know just wonderful music or movies or comedians or whatever it is tv and uh yeah so i'm trying to be better about looking outside of my bubble for music now i think that's great i think that's uh i think getting out and i don't know hopefully that this does that for people that are listening to this because i i think this is a great little thing to be like hey here's just what we've been into.

Check it out and then see, you know, kind of like take the pieces and put together a new car like from the parts that we give you.

And absolutely.

And I think that's always really exciting.

If you are, I do you know Shadows of Night?

No.

If you're into that sort of like 60s, like

almost like garage-y kind of sound,

I would say Shadows of Night have a song called Gloria that I'm sure you've heard a million times and you just didn't realize it was them.

Okay.

I would say check out Shadows of Night.

That's that's a band that I think you'd be into.

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Another

band that I don't know if it would be your speed or not, but I just found out about a band called the bug club uh

yeah great great name uh very

the album i've been listening to is called rare birds hour of song and it is just one hour mix of

music and then in between is

i don't want to say it's spoken word

tableaus from a bird's point of view because it that's what it is, but it doesn't sound like it.

I want to say this might be a hard one to just jump into because it is one hour long and there are 47 songs.

Sounds like a bit of a concept album.

It's it is a concept album.

If you ever liked moldy peaches, I think that this would be a thing that you'd want to check out.

Um, the song that they have called Marriage is,

I

think that's probably your speed.

Maybe the other 46 tracks on this album aren't gonna be for everyone, but uh, definitely check out the song Marriage from the Bug Club off of Rare Birds hour of song.

All right, I'm gonna add marriage.

I had

you might you might like it.

I think it has like a lot, it has like some really good energy.

It sounds

older, garage, like there's definitely a lot of like older garage sound to it, or like early 90s pulp.

It's just it's very strange.

And

it came out this year and I don't listen to a ton of new music, but I actually got turned on to it from this woman on TikTok that she does a series called New Albums for Old Heads.

And she's like, hey, do you not like new music?

Check out these albums.

And I'm like, well, this is actually, this is pretty good.

And she turned me on to that one.

And it's like, I really like it.

It's very, it's just really bizarre.

It's really hard to like, you have to put on the whole album.

I don't know how you could just put this on shuffle and be like, they have it come up on track.

13.

Yeah,

Bird's Words Hot Emptiness.

Yeah, it's just, it's very strange.

It's very, very strange.

But I think you check out the song Marriage and you might enjoy that.

Also, have you heard Andre 3000's new album?

Yeah,

his flute album.

I've got a couple of songs bookmarked that I've been listening.

Yeah, what do you think of it?

I like it.

Yeah.

I can't listen to.

If I listen to more than two songs at once, it sounds like music.

Yes.

But if I just listen to one song,

and it doesn't really matter which song, but if I just listen to one song, I'm into it.

I can't listen to too much of it at once.

It sounds really good when you have it on in the other room and then you're going into the kitchen to make coffee.

That is, I think, the best way to experience Andre 3000's newest album.

Either that or getting a massage.

I think those are the two ways to experience new blue sun.

It can't be a thing where you sit down and like, you like make it your focus.

It is way more ambiance than it is.

like

studio sound for you to like really drill into.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I really enjoy it.

I think it's really nice.

I think it's a great,

again, putting it on and making coffee and sort of like the

sun, like the lazy kind of like morning sun is like kind of like coming through like your blinds and you're going like, this is fucking great.

Like that's, we've done it.

We've, we've really figured this out.

This is beautiful.

Um,

I think I was going to say, go ahead.

No, I was going to say, but you're definitely right.

It sounds like muzak.

I think the best part of this new album coming out is everybody reposting the old Key and Peel sketch they did

the sketch they did,

which is so fucking funny and so

prescient.

Yeah.

Going to where we are.

Very, very clever.

And I forgot how great Key and Peel was, but man, people have been shoving that short down my throat.

God, no kidding.

George.

Panga, who works in marketing, is from Atlanta.

He's a huge Outcast fan.

And so I was talking to him about like, how do you feel about this?

It was before it came out.

I'm like, how do you feel about this album coming out and he went look whatever he's gonna put out i'm gonna be into that's just what's gonna happen he's like you're issued at elians like at birth and then it's you're just sort of like here you go you're alone

yeah yeah yeah you're into outcast sorry this is your music whether you want it or not yeah exactly so um i talked to him about after it came out and he said there's a lot he's like he's like i don't know how to like

kind of settle into it, but he said, it makes my brain feel really nice.

He's like, once the work week is over and you put it on.

He said, I hate the term.

It's a vibe, but I don't know a better way to describe it.

And I went, that's kind of a great way to, that's kind of really it is that is a vibe.

But then we also went into conspiracy theories about Outcast coming out with an album next year just because we're trying to will it into existence.

So

I don't think it's going to happen, but boy, I want it to happen.

So, so, so, so bad.

So bad.

I wonder though, dude.

Like, I'm with you.

I also would love it to happen, but I wonder if it's kind of like Eddie Murphy, where it's like, it's been so long.

Everybody wants to see Eddie Murphy do stand-up, but could it possibly live up to the expectation at this point?

You know what I mean?

I think that Big Boy is still so involved in music and Andre 3000 is still so involved with like young rappers that I like, there's no way it would be bad.

I mean, I would love it regardless.

And you're right about

one of the interesting things in the post-Outcast world is I've learned I was a much bigger Big Boy fan than Andre 3000 fan.

Isn't that so crazy?

Yeah, I didn't know that during Outcast at all.

Had no idea.

Always thought, I'm like, dude, Andre's the guy.

Big Boy's just like, I don't know, like, Andre's like all the flavor and all this stuff.

And you listen to it again, you're like, big boy's the he's so fucking good in everything, in every facet of every way of that fan.

His solo album since and his, uh, he did a collab with Fantagram album called Big Grams that was like seven years ago at this point, but it was so goddamn good.

It's so good.

And he was, he was pushing the envelope way more than I realized.

You just like, Andre's so out there and he's so like, has this like such an ephemeral personality that you just associate all of the groundbreaking aspects of that band with him, which is not the case.

I mean, I mean, not that he doesn't deserve, but I just, it was much more of a collaborative effort than I realized.

Like, I think it just really showed that what you think you know when you're, you know, listening to stuff and trying to like figure music out.

And then years later, it has a totally different effect on you It's like, oh, this isn't, there's not really like one way to do this.

There's not really one way that this is supposed to be sort of ingested or taken in or whatever.

It's, it's going to change with you as you kind of go.

And

I actually have that with a lot of, I got back into a veil and

hell yeah.

Yeah, like after we had talked about it, like 98, I was like, ah, maybe, maybe, maybe that and Lifetime are two bands that I was like, oh man,

not really super hot on.

I liked, but didn't love.

love and then i picked up uh jersey's best dancers again from lifetime and i went fuck this is so fucking good it's so good and then uh over the james was like that that available album from 98 is just like man so good

so Lifetime was from Jersey.

Yes.

And

I lived in Jersey for the last little bit of their existence.

And right after they broke up, and they were like

the Beatles to New York.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, they were so fucking big that you couldn't help but absolutely love Lifetime because it was just like, and I don't mean this in a bad way, but it was just crammed down your throat constantly because they were the biggest and the best thing going on.

And then, like, Kid Dynamite was kind of born out of that scene, which I thought was kind of like a spiritual successor to what they were doing in Lifetime.

Lead singer's name was Ari Katz.

I got to meet him once in Red Bank, New Jersey.

Really nice guy.

That's,

but yeah, I'm rather with you.

I've always been a huge Lifetime fan, and I always have like one or two lifetime songs in my playlist, uh, just about always.

It's one of those bands that

I always have like one song dangling.

I just didn't,

again, when I was younger and I listened to it, I'm like, oh, I like this.

And then it was just sort of a thing I fell away from.

And then I listened to it again.

I listened to Jersey's Best Answers again, and I just went, oh, everyone ripped this off.

Yeah.

Everyone just fucking ripped this off.

And I didn't, and I was too dumb to like look at it and realize, like, you know, in 1999, when I was like, what's this?

I was too fucking dumb to realize that it was just, oh, everybody took from this and nobody gave back.

And it's really crazy.

It's nuts.

It's if you, if you like,

it sounds like you do, but if, if, if you're interested, after Lifetime, he did, the lead singer, Ari, he did a band.

I think they just put out one album.

I think it was he and his wife called Zero Zero.

And it's like poppy dance music.

And it's really good.

I want to say it's on Jade Tree.

I mean, it's a little more complicated than poppy dance music.

It's like, but it's really, that's essentially what it is.

Have you ever listened to,

oh, fuck, I can't think of Mates of State.

It kind of reminded me of Mates of State a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

I, I, I, I think I'm, I think I know what you're talking about in, in terms of, um,

In terms of more difficult dance music, I get what you're doing.

Yeah, like a lot of a lot of percussions and a lot of like sing-song-y male-female vocals bouncing back and forth and just kind of frantic, but in a, in a, in a pop sensibility.

I don't know.

I really, I really enjoyed that.

I haven't listened to that album since it came out, probably three years, but I'm gonna check that out.

Let's look at that if you get a chance.

Oh, I'm sure it's sure it's around somewhere.

A thing that I

think I tried to turn you on when we had a photo shoot a couple months ago was

Faye Webster's Atlanta Millionaires Club.

Yeah.

Fuck.

What I can't stop listening.

It's, I've been listening to this album for

four months and I can't stop listening to this album.

I think it's so fucking good.

I love the sound of it.

You turned me onto her.

I've been listening to Room Temperature and Hurts Me Too a lot.

Yes.

Oh, my God.

God, it's so, goddamn.

Like,

those two songs are great.

It's like the first track and the third track on the album.

The song.

The second song on the album, the one that you skipped right side of my neck is the song that I heard first.

And I went, this is incredible.

I think it's so good.

Faye Webster, Atlanta Millionaires Club, I can't recommend enough.

It is,

it's like,

everyone started ripping off Phoebe Bridgers kind of sound.

And this to me is pre-that.

It's a very like, not folky, alternative sort of female singer-songwriter with a guitar, but not trying to get that Phoebe Bridgers sort of like feeling to it.

Um, I really like it.

I really like it a lot.

Yeah, I'm really glad you turned me on to it.

I've been enjoying it consistently since that day.

It's maybe the worst album cover I've ever seen,

but

it's so,

it's so, I don't like, I love the album.

I can't, I don't want to look.

Jeff, I can't look at this fucking image anymore.

I know.

I can't.

It's disgusting.

It's disturbing.

It's fucking awful.

I don't want to look at it anymore.

I hate it so much.

Oh, man.

What else have you been hitting?

Okay.

Anything else in and out?

So much.

I'm looking.

I put 54 songs on my playlist.

Obviously, we're not going to get shit.

We'll get to like eight of them.

I'm going to lump a couple together.

So I've been listening.

This is a band I like a lot called I Hate Myself.

And I think I might have recommended them last time, but I discovered a new song of theirs called Song 2.

And then I realized, and so I've lumped a couple of bands in together.

I Hate Myself, Song 2, Horse is on Fire by Die Hofnung, and then Protest Song 00 by a band called American Nightmare.

I've decided that this is Celine Dion for aggressive 40-year-old dudes.

It's just like songs of a heartbreak, screamy songs of heartbreak with a lot of heavy guitars.

So

if that strikes your fancy at all, I definitely recommend Song 2 and Protest Song 00.

Protest Song 00 is a song I've been listening to since it came out, but Song 2, I just discovered.

But to mix it up a little bit, I have been in love with this dude, Orville Peck.

I don't know if you've heard of him.

He's pretty popular.

I mean, I think he's like, he's having a moment.

He does like old,

old, like Hank Williams-esque country music.

Oh, yeah.

He has a new album out called Pony, and the whole album is good.

But if you're going to listen to one song, listen to Turn to Hate.

And the thing about him is he's, i don't think this is the thing about him but a thing about him is that he's gay and so a lot of his songs are like gay cowboy songs or like gay trucking songs like and it's just an interesting take on that genre and he's got this just

really sexy throaty voice and his the music is just like you'll listen it's one of those songs where you listen to one song and you're instantly a fan so if you get a chance listen to turn to hate by orville peck and i think you'll absolutely love the whole album i think uh i think he really figured out how to get people to notice him by wearing that mask first.

And then I think like, you know, having a gimmick is an easy way to get noticed for like this stuff.

And then it just turns out that his music is really, really, really good.

And so the mask was just sort of the launching pad to get people to notice his very, very, very good music.

Yeah, he's got like a cowboy outlaw mask on that.

He always has like different versions and they're beaded or very, it's kind of, it's kind of like the country version of MF Doom.

It is.

It's a little bit like that.

And I think, again, I think people immediately took notice of that part of it and didn't really notice the music.

And then now it's been long enough that people are really noticing the music.

And it's like, damn, he just keeps turning in like good stuff.

And I've listened to all of his music now and he gets better every album, which is definitely rarity.

You know, I feel like he and like Lana Del Rey are some of the only people I know that

consistently improve.

Yeah, I think it's, it's definitely, it's a confidence thing and it is is a like

it's a knowledge and sort of age thing with him where it just keeps going.

And it's like, man, this, he just, he knows his stuff and it's so good.

And he's, it just feels like he's perfecting it as he as he goes.

Yep.

Uh, another one I've been really interested or really uh enjoying is this band called Pagan Alter, who

Burn Dog turned me on to.

It's like early doom metal, I guess.

Uh, listen to the Time Lord.

It's just like, if you like heavy metal songs about spaceships and lasers and swords and shit, shit, like it is that.

It is like all the best of, that's my favorite kind of metal.

Like space metal, if that makes sense.

Kind of like the sword, like the sword or sleep or like those kind of themes.

It doesn't sound like that.

It sounds a lot more like 70s inspired heavy metal, but it's just those same kind of themes of like space metal, which I'm just a big fan of.

I'm learning as I get older.

Do you ever listen to Hawkwind?

Yeah, same, same era, I think, as Hawkwind.

That's definitely what it, just the look of it

Reminds me of that.

I'm going to check out Pagan Altar.

This is sick.

All, all the Pagan Altar stuff is good, but The Time Lord for me is like just the best fucking song.

The Time Lord is such a fucking cool, like, that's

so fucking awesome.

That's such a sick name.

I love that.

I just love that.

I wish I was a little bit older so that I could have lived in that era of the 70s when it was just about like smoking pot and thinking about spaceships and space operas.

Like, and it was basically like everybody saw Star Wars and then thought, like, that's the future.

Let's sing songs about it, you know?

And it was really only for like three years that people did it.

Yeah, guys, this is the future of entertainment.

Oh, fuck.

I discovered a country dude I really like, like a current country dude.

Actually, someone from one of the listeners to So All Right turned me on to it after my country episode.

And a guy named Willie Carlisle.

There's a song called Cheap Cocaine that you'll like.

Nice.

And

it's just like an acoustic country song about just doing cheap cocaine in different scenes, like in a punk scene and just around and kind of traveling around.

And the lyrics kind of get a little silly toward the end, but the song is still fun and strong.

I mean, I just looked it up, and

he has something called, I don't know what Critterland is, but

I'm all about whatever

Critterland is about.

That's a fucking fucked up looking possum.

That's awesome.

Critterland, I'm way at that.

I gotta check this out.

I gotta check he's got some other songs that i've liked okay but nothing like that song that song's been a lot better than anything else i've discovered of his but it's good that's nice um

what else

i've been listening to a lot of old stuff that's like popular but i've been really into so i'll just blow through that yeah uh this is just like shit that people would know uh that i have just been stuck in my head so country feedback by reim i have decided is the best rem song and i'm gonna listen to this song until i die It's never going to leave my playlist.

I'm never going to get sick of that song.

I've been listening to Heart, I Hear You Beating by Wayne Newton is a fucking banger.

Nice.

I don't know if you've ever listened to old Wayne Newton.

And the album cover, he looks like he lives with mother and

might be a ventriloquist.

It's really weird.

What else?

Oh, yes.

I've been listening to a lot of yes.

Wow.

Smell great people.

Yeah.

Where'd that come from?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Melanie.

You remember that song?

I've got a brand new pair of rolling skates.

Yep.

Melanie, brand new key.

I've been listening to that lately.

Van Morrison, Astral Weeks.

Oh, cool.

Awesome song.

I've been really digging.

Do you remember Belle and Sebastian?

I've been listening to Stars of Track and Field.

The Beatles.

I'm Only Sleeping.

I don't know why.

Been listening to that a bunch.

Just kind of like, like, expect, like, I don't know, more popular stuff, but it, oh, another one.

Dude, I have not been able to stop listening to Whisper You Love Me, Boy, by Diana Ross.

Okay, huh, such a great song.

I was doing a lot of like marriage, like, we had to put together a playlist for the wedding for the DJ, and so I was listening to a lot of love-y music, and that's probably where some of that came from.

Interesting, you are uh,

you really got all over the place with like the old stuff.

That's all, all over the map, yeah.

Wow, okay, that's cool.

Um, we got to wrap up soon as we're,

I know.

If I can throw a couple out at you,

old country guy, Charlie Leuven,

real

L-O-U-V-I-N.

Let me see.

What song would I write if you could only pick one song off of what I've been listening to?

Probably see the big man.

Let me see.

Yeah.

Oh, God.

They're all, it's all the saddest country that you've ever heard.

Like, okay, listen to less and less.

Okay.

Boy, it's really,

fuck, it's so

good

see the big man cry is so good it's just all him

you have to listen to it you have to it's just so it's just like the most sad music and you go oh this is great that's good good old country um

Ramones, Road to Ruin and Rocket to Russia, I've been listening to a lot.

Great albums.

I love both of those albums.

I think that Surfin' Bird is an underrated, you know, it became like a kind of like a meme or whatever.

I think surfing bird is like the fucking coolest song in the world.

Uh, surfing bird like makes me insane.

You put on surfing bird, and it's just like, oh my god, this is so much fucking fun.

It just keeps going.

Um, but road to ruin, I think, is a way better album with uh needles and pins and bad brain.

It's a long way back, I think, is just it's really, I really, really love the Ramones for is that your favorite album, you think?

Road to Ruin, probably.

Um,

I, they're such an easy band to knock because a lot of their music is so like, you know, it's so same-y, whatever.

I would

never knock the Ramones off.

I don't think so.

Like, I think too tough.

Like, I think if you put on Too Tough to Die and then you go back and you listen to like the stuff from like rock and roll high school, it's different.

It's all just like really different stuff.

And I don't know.

It's,

I really love the Ramones.

I know there's a lot of people that don't necessarily love the Ramones.

I love them.

I think most people consider like their first three albums to be the best.

Oh, yeah.

I love End of the Century.

End of the Century is Spectre so much.

I think it's really under.

I think it's an underrated album.

It's maybe not necessarily what I want to hear a ton of from the Ramones, but I love that they did something that wasn't what I wanted to hear a ton of from the Ramones.

I just think that's so, I think it's so cool and it's very good.

Plus, I Can't Make It On Time and Danny Says are two of the best Ramones songs.

Man, it's great shit.

They're so good.

And I think that's a, that's an an easy band to get into is how I feel.

An album that was recommended to me by my friend Jason, we were talking a lot about Bruce Springsteen because we were talking about Billy Joel.

He did a bunch of art for the Billy Joel like 50th anniversary thing.

My friend Jason Cryer that came out to visit.

Okay.

He did a bunch of stuff for.

The Billy Joel 50th anniversary.

And then we were talking a lot about Billy Joel and then talking about sort of like that Northeast music kind of thing.

It's like, oh, I could definitely see see being from like New York and going like, oh, Billy Joel's like the fucking shit.

But the thing I never understood is Bruce Springsteen.

And he's like, me neither.

I don't, I don't get it.

I don't understand it.

I, it's not my speed.

I don't like the sound of it, whatever.

He said, until I heard the album Nebraska, and that is the only album that you should check out from Bruce Springsteen.

I think it's worth your time.

And I listened to it and I went, man, this is really good.

So Nebraska by Bruce Springsteen is definitely one I've been listening to a lot of.

Well, I'm sorry, Nebraska.

Is that what you said?

Yeah, yes.

Let me add that in because I've never been a huge

me.

I don't get it.

I think Highway Patrol Man and State Trooper, like the two sort of like middle songs there, are incredible.

I think they're so good.

Do you know a little bit of like because you mentioned Bruce Springsteen and the Ramones?

I don't think we've talked about this together, but did you know that Bruce Springsteen wrote a Ramon song?

No, what?

Yeah, apparently he was a big Ramones fan early on, and he met Joey Ramon somewhere,

and

I guess in Asbury Park, and Joey Ramon asked him to write a song, and so he wrote Hungry Heart as a Ramones song, but he liked it so much, he kept it.

What?

Yeah, and if you listen to that song now, you'll hear it, and you'll go, oh, yeah, that is a Ramon song.

He literally wrote that song for the Ramones and then decided, nah, I like this too much.

I'm going to keep it for me.

I got to, okay, I'll have to listen to Hungry Heart right as soon as we end this.

That's so funny.

It's ridiculous.

That's insane.

That's so crazy.

Never, wow.

Okay.

We'll get to that.

You never know.

Uh-uh.

All right.

We gotta, we gotta wrap up.

We're over time on this, but any

last ones, any last shots you want to throw on?

Let me leave with one.

Let me see.

What's one song I want to leave everybody with?

How about

The River by Five L is Gloak?

I don't know if you're gonna say that.

It's like, what did you just say?

What?

Well, first off, Fival is Gloak is F-I-E-V-E-L is, and then Gloak is spelled G-L-A-U-Q-U-E.

It's,

I don't know anything about this band, but if I had to describe it, I would describe it as French indie dance music.

Whoa.

It's beautiful.

It's just beautiful.

Anything they put out is good, but The River is a really good song.

So I'll leave you with that.

Okay.

That's a great one.

There you go.

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Anything you want to leave people with?

Anything you want to...

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