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Hey,

this is episode 63.

What?

This is episode 63.

Nice.

Last time we were at First Light Coffee and Bookshop,

where we talked about early is the new late, bad local burgers, childhood coffee memories, and brim.

But that was the last time.

So I realized,

after we recorded, I looked up

one of those old brim commercials.

Uh-huh.

And I realized maybe I didn't catch it when I was a kid.

The reason you could fill it to the rim with brim is because it's decaffeinated.

You could have afternoon coffee.

You don't only have to have half a cup of coffee in the afternoon when you want coffee.

I also.

You could fill it to the rim with brim.

Me neither.

Because when you're a kid, like, you don't pay attention to it.

It doesn't stick, right?

That doesn't mean anything to you.

But that was the whole gist.

Brim is decaffeinated with coffee.

Decaffeinated.

And that's why you could fill it to the rim with brim.

Hideous, hideous 70s logo that's come around and is endearing now.

Yes.

Like, it's like, I remember.

Everything from our childhood was ugly and now it's cool.

I remember being young, thinking that was awful.

That was absolutely...

Cool, the music's getting louder.

Terrible.

and then it came around and now it's like now you look at it it's like oh that's kind of retro and cool so we're at the coffee shop it was really loud for where I wanted to record I walked around the whole place found a quiet spot and as soon as we hit record it got louder and by the way when you say whole place you mean whole fucking place it's huge what the fuck I think

I disappeared good morning guys yeah what's up

I think you all lost me, right?

Yeah.

I walked around one area, then I tried to get your attention, y'all were looking totally to the wrong area.

We were up in the tower,

the coffee shop tower, looking down at a thousand pumpkins.

I don't know what I was telling Eric, what the fuck are they going to do tomorrow on November 1st with all these pumpkins?

Start making pumpkin pie.

I will say that we just ran off our first person ever.

Oh, that's great.

Yeah, that was pretty cool.

I saw it happen.

Yeah.

I felt bad, but at the same time, for as big as this place is, there are a lot of fucking people here on a Tuesday.

Yeah.

There's also a lot of places to sit.

Yeah.

Not a lot of places to park.

We're either going going to run one person off your three over there, so I'll have it for the one.

I'm mad at the world right now.

Nothing works the way it's supposed to.

The goddamn password reset with the fucking Warner Brothers thing doesn't work, so I can't change my direct deposit.

The goddamn parking app doesn't work.

My fucking phone doesn't work.

For reference, the parking app works.

Yeah, if you can get it.

Jesus.

I have it.

No problem here.

Eric was offering to pay for it because Jeff was having such problems.

I was like, no, no, man.

Let him figure it out.

No, Gus went, no, no, don't bail him out.

Also, come on, leave him here.

And we walked away.

Bail me out.

I just had to download the app, but there's no fucking service in this part of the company.

Yeah, but then we get in here and Eric immediately goes, let's go upstairs so we can't find us.

I was like,

I was like, the coffee's right here.

It's downstairs.

That was funny.

You know what I would do if you guys went upstairs and I couldn't find you.

Are you just going to leave?

No, I wouldn't leave.

I would just sit right there and play on my phone until you came and found me.

I'm not going to come.

I'm not going to play that game.

Hang out with one of them.

I can outweigh you guys.

Gus and I, you don't ever want to get into

a situation where Gus and I are trying to out-stubborn each other.

No, no, no.

That does not end well.

It'll shut stuff down.

Yeah.

So we were on East 4th.

Getting here was.

Well, Jeff drove, so it was an adventure.

He has GPS in his car.

I saw it.

He didn't put anything in there.

He just started driving.

I like the way you did it.

I thought it was cool.

The way I did it is the way I drive.

Always.

4th Street disappeared for a while.

We don't know where it went.

We were just...

That's not my fault.

That's 4th Street disappeared.

We were just on other roads, and I went, where are we now?

4th Street.

You don't recognize 4th Street?

No, no.

You guys were saying, this can't be 4th Street because it's not just empty dirt lots.

Yeah, I definitely don't recognize 4th Street.

Dude, we're in East Austin.

If you haven't driven down 4th Street in East Austin in the last five years, boy, would you be surprised to find out that there are...

There's shit here now.

There's a lot.

This is the biggest coffee shop I've ever seen.

Yeah, think i think i might be in the same boat as it's it's deceptively big from the street too because it is it's tall it has like an upstairs with like a water tower thing we're at cosmic coffee on east fourth uh it's brand new i think it opened within like the last month uh so i just found it and i was like oh cool i want to hit this place up I didn't think that it was this fucking big.

I don't who everyone just lives here.

We know what it is.

We walked in and Eric and I almost walked into the wrong door.

We're like, oh, no, that's Cosmic Tacos.

We're looking for Cosmic Coffee.

It's the other door.

It's like a compound.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot, like so many tables and benches.

On the weekends, it must be fucking insane.

So it's a coffee shop.

After 5 p.m., it's 21 and up only, and it's a bar.

Oh.

So at 5 p.m., they kick all the underage people out and start getting fucked up.

There's also like a

old pond or stream back there.

It's fucking crazy.

They have like frozen drinks.

I was like, ooh, is those some

waterfall back there?

There's there's like Casabonita going on here.

There's there's a lot here.

There's a cliff jumper.

There may have been a a dog peeing behind us is what it sounded like a second ago.

There's just been a lot going on in this neck of the woods.

And I think if you're new to Austin, this is the thing that you look at and you go, I got to move here, man.

It's the place when I go to a bigger city, like you go to a San Francisco or, I don't know, Philadelphia or anywhere, and you stumble into a coffee shop and you go, I wish we had stuff like this in Austin.

And you get that like, oh, right, I'm reminded that we're not a big city.

We get tricked into the idea that we're a big city because Austin is the 10th largest city in the world.

I believe so.

10th.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And but if you live here, it's not.

It's a tiny place.

Well, it's because you're competing with a lot of metro areas.

Like it's bigger technically than San Francisco, but San Francisco has the whole bay area.

But there's a density

disparity.

But you're right.

You walk into this place and you go, oh, I guess we're there now.

Like we are that big.

Yeah.

Because this is fucking huge.

This is the kind of place where if like if this if I moved to a town and this was the coffee shop, I would go here every day.

And I'd be like, oh, that's my coffee shop now.

There's cool ass mega shop.

Plenty of places around here too live too, apparently.

Well, maybe they're not open yet.

There's a bunch of stuff getting built all over here.

I remember when this was like, there was like nothing, we're by where, kind of by where the recycling plant, or not the recycling plant, like that junkyard was, right?

Wasn't that like right there?

It was the scrapyard, yeah.

Yeah, we used to, I used to sit at Progress Coffee in the morning and watch them move piles of trash.

That was the best.

Now Progress Coffee's gone.

That's right, Brothers Brewing Brew, and Progress Coffee is over on 35 now.

Oh, right.

And that might go away.

We talked about that with the 35 expansion.

We're also close to the historic Scoot Inn, which is like a block down, which if you're not familiar with it, it's just a little bar in Austin where they have shows and stuff.

But I think

their claim to fame is that it's the only bar, either in Austin, but I want to say Texas, that never closed down during Prohibition.

It stayed open the whole time.

Was there like a loophole?

Or did they just say, fuck you, it stay open?

I think it was a little bit of both.

Okay.

Yeah.

I think it was

just allowed for some reason.

I remember the story.

I I don't remember.

I remember hearing the story.

I don't remember the story.

He's going to do a silk and do it.

He's going to do so all right about it.

I'm excited to learn about it.

I'm pretty sure that they stayed open throughout Prohibition.

And it had something to do with it being right next to railroad tracks.

Or I don't know.

They found the loophole.

They all gotcha.

Can I ask, if you guys lived around here

and like when you were younger, like when you first moved, not even first moved to Austin, but just say it was like...

If we'd have lived on here when we first moved to Austin, we wouldn't be hanging out right here.

What I'm saying is,

if this place was here and like this sort of like build out and everything and you like lived around here, is this a place you would have gone to?

No, I would have.

Yeah, really.

I don't think I would have been here.

I think

I was always looking for something dirtier.

I don't know.

This place is beautiful.

It's really nice.

It's really well kept.

Obviously, they just opened.

I don't know.

Especially when I was younger, that was not the kind of thing I liked.

I was definitely attracted to dirtier stuff too, but

it was mostly because it was what I could afford and what was around me.

I wouldn't have turned away a gorgeous coffee shop.

It just wouldn't have crossed my mind that something like this could be in Austin.

How much was the coffee?

All in all, we got two cold brews because I didn't see regular drip on their menu.

And you got an Americano.

And I think with tax and tip, it was like $16 or $17.

Yeah, I wouldn't have been here again.

Which is about, which is about $3 or $4 more in total than we typically spend at other coffee shops.

That's a good angle.

We should start paying attention.

Good litmus of what it is.

I mean, like you go to a place like, when we went to like All Gimmicks, again, we're going to praise All Gimmicks, but All Gimmicks was like, that was pretty dirt cheap

for what we were getting for it.

For some of the best cup of coffee, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Also, it definitely has the vibe you're talking about.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, that seemed like a place that you would have gone to.

It just had gross horror movies playing inside of a place that also served, I think, like Korean fried chicken.

I worked in a warehouse with a loading dock.

I want to get my coffee from a warehouse with a loading dock.

I want to live in a warehouse with a loading dock.

We have to build a skate park in the warehouse of the loading dock.

We have a rope swing in the warehouse of the loading dock.

That's a that's my life revolves around warehouses and loading docks.

Yeah, it's just this is a

this is a place I would bring people who aren't from here.

Yeah, for sure, right?

Yeah, 100%.

Jeff was upstairs.

We were upstairs waiting for you to look around to find a spot.

Yeah.

And Jeff was taking pictures.

He's like, I gotta show Emily this place.

Like, I have, like,

what the fuck is this?

It's wild.

It's just,

it must sound so silly to be wherever you are listening to this in the world and hearing us like a gog about a coffee shop, but it's just so big and expensive.

Like this place looks like it cost many millions of dollars to make.

And it just in a part of town that for the longest time was overgrown

like shell rocks, lots, essentially, you know?

The railroad is right there.

When I was looking out the back window, like I saw the crossing guards go down and like block it.

There's a bike path over there.

Like we're right off the railroad tracks like the scoot in.

in.

How hard did you look in the back?

Did you see the guy in the recliner sitting next to the railroad tracks?

No, I did not see that.

Was he on this side or the other side?

Oh, he's on the other side.

I literally looked past.

I just looked up to the railroad track.

He's right next to the railroad tracks in a recliner that it looks like he brought.

He's watching the trains.

I hear the clanging right now.

He's watching the trains.

He's enjoying the music and the trains.

I'm enjoying the pug in a leather jacket.

Yeah, there's a pug in a denim vest.

He's looking tough.

It's Halloween.

We're recording, I guess.

It is.

It is.

You mentioned it with your pumpkin.

Puglift earlier.

Yeah.

This is...

So you guys talked about what this area was, and you come here now, and it is nothing but apartments, penthouse, like this kind of office building-y.

Is that apartments?

Or is that an office?

I think it's an office.

It's an office space.

And it's all that.

No parking on, I mean, there's parking on the streets, but it's all paid.

There's tons of construction going on.

Tons of construction.

It makes it it difficult to get around.

And I was going to say, like, when was the last time you guys have been around here?

And how often were you down around this area before?

I was rarely here because there wasn't really much of anything here for the longest time.

I mean, I was like adjacent areas, like maybe just on the other side of 35 here,

or maybe just a little north of here, but on this specific spot, not really.

I don't know about Jeff.

There's the train.

I can fucking throw a rock and get it.

We talked about this in a supplemental, you and I, Eric, a very long time ago, but I was here.

This is like a second home to me because like two blocks down is where my my ex-wife's art gallery was her art space was

and so I was there like if I wasn't at RT I was at that place for a couple for years yeah

and so this was that's why I think it maybe is so shocking to me because I have walked up and down this street like with Millie when she was a little kid I've spent a ton of time at bars around here, which I don't remember mostly because I was at bars and I drank those memories away.

But I know I spent a lot of time here.

And I can't tell you what was here.

I can't tell you what was on this specific spot.

It must have been nothing.

I bet it was just like an empty dirt lot.

I remember there were a lot of dirt lots.

We're so close to the rail tracks, I can't imagine that there was anything here.

I used to have an idea

of a project I wanted to do.

You'll see why it's useless now.

I had an idea years ago for a project I wanted to do because I was kind of overwhelmed with how fast Austin was changing.

And I started to notice that like the second a building gets torn down and is replaced, you immediately forget what was there every time.

And so I wanted to go and photograph every fucking block of Austin so that I could go back and reference it and go, oh, look, that's what was there.

And so to maintain or preserve some sense of history.

And then Google Maps happened and they have Google Street View and it caches and I'm like, oh, I don't know.

I do that.

I do that all the time to look at what used to be somewhere.

I will say, it would have been useful for a time, like before, obviously they started doing that.

And then also some of the early years, the photos are just like super low-res and blurry.

It's true.

They're not great until maybe like 06, 07.

That's when it really starts to

junky and has kind of fallen into disrepair.

And Emily and I were like, the other day, we were like, how long do you think it's been junky?

Because we're trying to remember, I've lived there for like four years.

Like, was it junky when we moved here?

And so we just went back, we watched the house from, I think it went back to like as far as 2008, and we just watched the house dilapidate every year over Google Street View.

It was wild.

Wow.

Super useful, that Google Street View.

That's crazy.

Yeah, the same thing.

I lived at a place once that was relatively new.

It was actually really new construction.

And it was a similar thing.

I was like, I can't remember what was here before they built this place I live now.

So I had to look on Google Street View, like, oh, right, it was those, like, it was this, I remember now.

So

it is really useful to look back and see what used to be around.

This is the yellow bike project used to be housed right around here.

I remember that.

I think, I don't know if we've talked about that on the show.

I think we have, yeah.

They're also all the people that drive the little

bicycle chariots to pick up people around downtown and deliver them places, they're, I think, still headquartered in some warehouses right across the street from us.

Okay.

Like right over there.

That's right.

Where all those are.

They like wheel out.

Yeah, the pedicabs, they wheel out every night as the sun goes down.

I don't know if you've mentioned this on this show or not, but the first pedicab I think I ever took was in San Diego.

It was me.

Yeah, it was me.

You and I together.

For San Diego Comic-Con.

It was me, you, and C-Unit, I think, was in it as well, wasn't it?

Yeah, I think so.

And it was an introduction to the world of pedicabs because you get in, and I didn't realize at the time because I was kind of younger and dumb.

They don't tell you what the price is until you're going.

And then it's like, oh, this is a lot more than I wanted to pay for this.

Yep.

Yeah.

And it was like some super cute Eastern European girl.

And she was like,

she told us, she gave us like a story, and we were just like, here's our money.

Here's all our money.

That sounds the right kind of scam.

That was, I mean, I don't think I've ever taken one because we always knew it was like, don't trust these things.

Yes.

That's what I learned.

Yeah, it's like, oh, yeah, I would have been much happier walking the 20 minutes with another 40 bucks in my wallet.

I think it was more expensive than that.

I think we split it.

I think it was like 40 bucks.

I lose 80 bucks, yeah.

Jesus.

And just being like, holy shit, we just went from like, we just went four blocks.

Yeah, we could have walked it.

It was not that far.

We just paid 20 bucks.

20 bucks a block?

I think we were just worn out.

It was like after having been in the booth all day.

It's like, let's just take the pedicab.

Let's just not walk for a little bit, get off our feet.

And yeah, we walked walked every other day after that i've never taken a pedicab here in austin i i i want to say that i never have but i don't know that i never i don't think i have but i wouldn't be surprised if maybe i did one i don't think i have either do you like i wonder how much that business is affected by like all the the dockless scooters you see nowadays oh it has to be so much right like i think at this point the only time you would think about getting in a pedicab is if you're too drunk to balance yourself on a scooter or

which is usually when you want to get on a scooter and not drunk enough enough to be uh past that point where you're so brave that you don't care yeah um

because i see people fall off those things all the time they're really convenient but man i see people really severely hurt themselves quick trip to the er man yeah uh i carry uh i carry a helmet in the trunk of my car in case i ever want to get on one of those for some reason go a few blocks i uh i hope you don't but i'm an uh

I'm an old person now, I realize, because when Emily and I are driving around town and I see some kids like ripping it up on those things, I just go slow down please slow down

you're so very dangerous slow down please slow down

cherish your life it's not worth it I'm not I'm not I'm not so dumb that I'm ripping around super fast but I think the only time I really use them is around RTX like to get to and from the convention center like if I park somewhere that's not close to the convention center like to get quickly to the convention center and then back to my car I'll use them you know we have

You know, we'll have like security details with us that shadow us during RTX.

And I remember last year, he saw me, he met me at the at the convention center.

He saw me get off of that scooter, and he's like, oh my god, here, take a bunch of hand sanitizer.

Those things are filthy.

I can't believe you're touching it.

He had like hand sanitizer with him.

He was like dousing my hands in it.

I was like,

I get it.

That's cool.

You're not my germ protector, but apparently he is.

He's protecting you from all enemies, invisible or invisible.

Jumping in front of that.

I really appreciate it.

I don't know if you remember this.

Let me miss an interesting segue.

Years ago.

It's getting louder again.

It is getting really loud.

There's so much audio texture in this fucking show.

And we're far.

It was busy.

It was so

quiet when we sat down.

Years ago.

Oh, you know what?

There's a band warming up at Scoot Inn.

Oh, is that what it is?

Oh, at fucking.

Because the music is going.

I guess it's Halloween.

It's probably like a show.

Yeah.

Years ago.

This is something I would never do again.

One of the first San Diego Comic-Cons we went to, it might have been 04 or 05,

I got like this threatening email from someone who said

they were going to hurt me at San Diego Comic-Con.

And I don't know if you remember this, Jeff.

I replied to them, and I was like, booth 1437, and I sent them my schedule of when I'd be in the booth, and I said, I'll see you there.

They never showed up.

I would never do that again.

But I remember just having that hubris and that invincibility with youth.

You could get away with doing that 20 years ago.

You really could.

Like, the world has changed.

Like, I remember when I was thinking about all the time, like, when I was in high school, people got into fights, and then somebody would win, and then it'd be over.

Now it's like people stomp people out.

Like, fucking social media has shown how horrendous people can be, and then also encouraged other idiots to one-up other idiots, you know?

I would not want to get in a fight with a stranger.

No, I don't know.

Definitely not.

Ever.

No.

People get fucking shot for road rage all the time in Austin.

Did you see that?

Even though I got fucking killed up on 35 in Parmer recently.

Yeah.

Crazy.

It's fucking ridiculous.

It's weird how more guns can fix the problem.

Listen,

we don't have more enough guns.

We've only gotten like 1.2 guns for every citizen.

Once we have six or seven...

Double plus.

Yeah, when we have double plus guns, it'll be double plus good.

Oh, yeah.

That's a...

Yeah, it's terrible.

Gus, thank you for being a responsible gun owner.

You're welcome.

I appreciate it.

I appreciate the people like you.

Yeah, but even I think we've gone too far.

Someone who's been around Firearms his whole life.

This isn't an anarchy question, but I'm looking through right now.

Can I ask you something?

Yeah.

This is from Peter Brooks.

He says, I would love an update from Gus on his star citizenships and if he has played or his thoughts on the game in general.

I have not played in a while.

I'm kind of waiting for Squadron 42 to officially release.

What is that?

It's like the kind of like the single-player campaign story.

They said that they are like they've locked it and it's I think it's like an internal alpha or beta at the moment.

So like it's gonna ship.

I think if I'm being reasonable in the next two or three years at that point, I'll finally sit down and really have a lot of fun.

How long have you been supporting that project?

Okay, so that's a weird way to phrase it.

I wouldn't say I'm still supporting that project.

I gave that project money in the past.

When did you start supporting that project?

At one time.

If I had to try to guess at this point, I would say maybe 2015, 2016 2014 2015 somewhere around there were you in early or no that was i feel like that was late right i feel like you got in a little because that my thought was by that point they were getting ready to ship i feel it was like they're almost done at this point i feel like they've been going since like 2010 or 11.

i think they have and now it's 2023 and they're you think they're an internal alpha no they have announced that they've like they've they've locked i'm sure they announced a lot of stuff that like 13 years ago this time i believe it i think in two to three years i'm gonna be playing this game this time i believe it Listen, it's like Lucy with the football.

And I'm Charlie Brown.

You're going to be playing GTA 6 before you play that game.

And I don't know that it's officially been announced.

Grief.

Yeah,

I would not take that bet about GTA 6.

I might be playing GTA 6 before...

Who's spooky?

Before Star Citizen.

They're playing the Exorcist.

song.

Yeah, so

I have not looked at it in a while.

I'm just waiting for it to come out.

I'm waiting for it to be like a finished product, and then I'll dive in.

I don't want to keep having the football yanked out from under me.

I've not given that project money in several years at this point.

Hey, speaking of it being spooky in Halloween, what Halloween-y holiday-type things have you done this year?

Nothing.

You haven't done any Austin Halloween stuff?

I have not done a single.

Yeah, I feel like this Halloween snuck up on me.

It's because it was 90 degrees until two days ago.

Yesterday, yeah.

What about you?

Have you done anything Halloween-y?

I haven't watched a single scary movie.

Do you have any scary movie recommendations for Halloween?

I was realizing my friends Bernie Vanessa have been watching like a movie a day through the holidays, and I had a realization that

I am completely and totally out of the loop on that kind of stuff.

Every movie they've seen, I hadn't heard of.

You know, like classic stuff.

Classic stuff?

I think The Exorcist is the scariest movie I ever made.

Okay.

Yeah.

I think that's a great movie.

I read that there's a sequel to It Follows called They Follow that's coming out.

Oh, that's a scary thing.

Yeah, Yeah, it just got announced today.

Thank you.

Very excited about that.

If I was going to suggest, again, a classic, I just re-watched it a couple months ago, The Thing.

Yeah.

Really, really good movie.

Scary movie.

Scary movie.

Holds up pretty well.

If you like The Thing, I recommend watching the original, The Black and White.

It's also very good.

You never saw it.

You know what?

I'm going to recommend watch the sequel remake one that came out in like 2012.

How was that?

I don't know.

I didn't see it.

I think if I remember.

It's probably not very good.

It's the other station from the beginning of the thing.

It's what happened there.

But what I heard is that the movie is like beat for beat the exact same thing.

Cool.

Yeah.

And I think it's got like CGI monsters, which don't age well.

Yes.

Did John Carpenter make it?

No.

Oh, okay.

It's got, what's her name in it?

The woman who was in 10 Cloverfield Lane.

She was also in the...

Mary Elizabeth Winston.

Yes, she's in it, right?

I guess.

I don't know.

I think that's her.

Huh.

I feel like she was everywhere for a while, and she kind of like backed off and disappeared a little bit.

Everybody had their

own stars have their moments, right?

Yeah.

She's in also Scott Pilgrim, I think, right?

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's right.

That's what blew her up.

It's her and Joel Edgerton.

Oh, yeah.

And

Eric Christian Olson.

It's a lot.

Oh, Echo from Mr.

Echo from Lost.

Is it out?

Yeah, yeah.

I'm rewatching Lost from the Express.

I think we talked about it in Face recently, but John Carpenter, I just read an article in Reddit.

John Carpenter,

he basically said that all he cares about is playing video games, watching basketball, and eating popsicles.

And I was like, is he you?

That's what I said.

Like, I had no idea that John Carpenter was my fucking spirit animal, but apparently, like,

I am all about that John Carpenter lifestyle.

Like, somewhere in California, up in Calabasas or wherever he lives, he's just fucking eating a banana popsicle right now with the Celtics on on one screen playing Starfield.

And

I can't imagine being anywhere better than that.

That sounds awesome.

I know.

You got to figure out how to be friends with John Carpenter.

If anyone who has John Carpenter hookups, let us know.

Like, listen, I liked your movies.

I don't give a shit about them.

I don't want to talk about them.

I don't want to to talk about what you're doing next.

I want to talk about the Celtics.

How's Porzingus?

Let's just play Trucks.

Let's get in the mud.

Let's play some fucking trucks.

Let's eat some Banana Fobsicles.

Let's play Wet Trucks.

That's what we've been playing lately.

Wet Trucks.

Jeff is upset because Trucks is good, but then Trucks Update, Trucks Don't Work.

Trucks Don't Work, so we play Sea of Thieves.

We call it Wet Thieves.

That's Water Trucks.

Water trucks.

Yeah, yeah.

It's a classic Bernie Burns game.

I think it is classic Bernie Burns.

He's the only person that I know that would be like, hey, you're playing Sea of Thieves.

I'm like, that game came.

No, what are you talking about?

What year is this?

The are you talking about oh man i yeah i've been man i'm like i'm really loving super mario wonder oh it is it's so cool isn't it such an unbelievable i even heard of it until last week it's um good yeah it's it's incredible i i read uh this like factoid online that the original super mario brothers for the nes was developed by five people at nintendo and four of those five people worked on wonder oh uh it's like it it it gives me that feeling of being a kid playing a video game for the first time again where you're like the sky's the limit.

You don't know what's going to happen.

Anything's possible.

Really?

Yeah.

It's like, what does this thing do?

Wow.

Like I had no idea.

Like new abilities, new suits or whatever.

There's stuff.

There's one thing in every, I can't believe it's every level, but there's a thing like in every level that changes the level fundamentally.

And so you're playing it and you have to play it twice.

Like you have to play every level twice at least.

And then there's all like these like coins that you're supposed to gather, like special things and like wonder seeds and all this stuff.

So it's just like this replayability factory when i was in i went to san diego and saw some friends everybody's like oh check this out mario and it was me and two buddies and we played it for hours passing the controller around and going like oh no i got it i gotta figure it out let me do it let me do it and it was like this rules yeah you're like what you're talking about that changes the the level it's like this weird effect and it doesn't just it's not like you're mario and then the level changes and you're mario doing something else like you're mario oh now you're a block an inanimate block and you have to traverse the level, or you're a Goomba and you can't jump

and you have to like try to figure out how to get around this level.

That's cool.

It's really cool.

And then the second time you play it, you just don't activate that, and you play the rest of the level, and you go, oh, this is what all the rest of it was.

That's so cool.

It's really, really.

Or there's some levels where you go through and you get to the end, and it's like, nah, you didn't finish it right.

Yeah.

It's like,

it's like, oh, but the game is like, never mind, back to the start.

No, it really, like, you beat it, and then it goes, well, that's not the secret exit.

And you go, oh, it's not the what?

There's one level that we played where you are,

it's timed with like a song that you're supposed to jump across.

And if you fall down, you don't die.

It just puts you at the finish line.

And it's just Mario.

And he's like, oh, okay.

And you like hit the flag.

And when you cross the flag, it like the toad comes out and kind of shrugs.

And there's like a question mark.

And the song kind of plays.

But like going, da-da-da-da-da-da.

And you're like, oh, okay.

And you can progress, but it's not the way you're supposed to beat the level.

And you're like, this is awesome.

It's so fucking cool.

You know, it reminds me a lot of Super Mario Bros.

3 and Super Mario World, and both of those games had that mechanic where there's like an overworld map, and you walk around, like, you're like, I want to go from this level to this level.

And there's like a doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, like a little dotted track.

This has that, but then it's like, you don't have to follow the dotted track.

You can just wander around in the overworld map.

And it's like, oh, there's a world hidden in the sand here that you can't see unless you like wander around through this empty area for a while and then like it pops up out of nowhere.

Do

When's it coming out on Xbox?

Should do any day now, I think.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think it would be GTA 6, Star Citizen, and then Mario Wonder on the Xbox.

I think the way Xbox is going, they can't wait to buy Nintendo to put it on the Xbox.

Yeah, I think

Nintendo obviously does not want that.

I don't think that's going to happen, but I bet Microsoft.

Do you think Activision said the same thing?

Activision doesn't make their own hardware.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, Activision is also not a foreign-owned company.

It's like, that's a whole other ballgame you're dealing with.

Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other.

When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a four-litre jug.

When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started beekeeping.

Oh, come on.

They called it truce for their holiday and used Expedia Trip Planner to collaborate on all the details of their trip.

Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool.

Whatever.

You were made to outdo your holidays.

We were made to help organize the competition.

Expedia, made to travel.

How do you feel about that?

The Activision

stuff.

You know, I think that more

competition is better for the consumer.

I think as long as Microsoft doesn't lock all that stuff down to just their platform, as long as they can still play it other places, that's still fine.

You know, they acquired Mojang and Minecraft, you know, is still available.

everywhere.

So hopefully that continues.

Do you remember when they did that deal?

I want to say it was with Sony where where you would get maps on Call of Duty, but you'd get them like a year early on the PlayStation.

I fucking hate that stuff.

I hope they don't do that.

I hope they don't in reverse do that and give all of us Xbox people tons of extra content and then gatekeep it from the PlayStation 2.

And then you're like cutting your user base and your player base and separating it.

And it's just ⁇ it's moves to infuriate your customer base.

Yeah.

Right?

It's like, don't the people, these people just want to buy your game and play it.

Don't make them play it on the platform that you have the best deal with.

Just let them play it where they want to play it, where they've historically been able to play it.

That's why the thing we always strive to do, like with Achievement Hunter and Face and our projects in Rich Teeth is if we're going to create something in a different way and put it behind a paywall or whatever, make it additive.

Try not to ever take something away

and then put it behind a paywall.

You don't want to create hurdles for the audience.

You don't want to make it harder for them to enjoy something they were already enjoying.

Yeah.

I get that that probably makes short-term business sense, you know?

And all those people are there for the short-term anyway, right?

Like what's the average span for a CEO, CCO, CMO.

How long did Bobby Cottick helmet?

It was a long time.

It was a long time.

30 years?

30 years or something.

But you're right.

Most of those people are in and out in like three or four years.

And

they want to inflate some numbers to look good so they can get the next C-level job and keep moving.

And you don't even have to be good at it.

You just have to

push the numbers for a little bit and then get out when it's on top.

And then you leave.

or you get fired and then you just go do some other thing.

You just go do some other startup, and they go, Hey, we got the guy who used to run this.

Yeah, getting fired doesn't seem to affect you.

It seems like it's fine.

You just have to have done the job one time before, apparently.

Really easy stuff.

It's great.

Yeah.

I want to touch back on something from our previous episode where we went to the

was it whole grocer or something?

Oh, Fresh Plus.

Fresh Plus.

Put a poll up.

is this will farrell 62 yes so they're saying that that is will farrell oh gosh you found the movie it is i found it i found the movie did you watch it no what was it called wendell baker story the windell baker story yeah and i watched the trailer it looks not good uh but you can see will farrell in the grocery store really like hitting luke wilson and then like yelling at luke wilson while he's standing outside it's like oh yeah that's definitely fresh plus that's where that mural is that's awesome because the the urban legend story i always heard was that the movie lost funding and they never made it but i guess they absolutely made it.

They came out in 2005.

Yeah.

Luke Wilson plays a good-hearted ex-con who gets a job in a retirement hotel.

Three elderly residents help him win back his girlfriend as he lends them a hand in fighting hotel corruption.

Yeah, I think the grocery store is like a small subplot, part of the bigger story.

But I think Will Farrell's not even like top-built in that movie.

He's not.

Yeah.

God, there's a lot of people in that.

Luke Wilson, Eva Mendez,

Owen Wilson, Harry Dean Stanton.

Really?

Chris Christofferson, Eddie Griffin, Will Farrell.

Wow, what the fuck?

There are a lot of people in this movie.

For a movie I had never heard of.

Uh-uh.

Wow.

That was filmed in Austin.

In Austin.

Filmed in Austin.

Yeah.

I mean, while we were living here.

Yeah.

Glenn Powell.

is in it.

And if you don't know who that is, he's the most actor-looking actor guy who's in Top Gun 2 or whatever.

He's the new Iceman.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was the new Iceman.

He was in Scream Queens.

Or I think, yeah.

He was in Everybody Wants Some.

He's just the guy that when people go like, what does an actor look like?

I go, well, it's like that.

I need a guy who's like overconfident and vaguely douchey, but in a funny way.

This guy looks like he has blonde hair, but he doesn't have blonde hair.

I think that used to be Channing Tatum, but now it's this guy.

It used to be Channing Tatum.

Before that, it was the guy in the company of Mid, Aaron Eckhart.

Yeah,

this is the new guy.

He just has a face.

He looks like an actor.

He looks like he lives in Los Angeles.

Oh, absolutely.

He doesn't look like he's from there, but it looks like he lives there.

And I think that's all you need sometimes.

Yeah.

Anyways, I'm glad you remember about the grocery store.

I totally forgot in our address.

Oh, we put a poll up.

I wanted to know if people thought it looked like Will Ferrell, and they said yes.

Now you know the rest of the story.

I just invented that.

Do you want to do it the right way?

And now you know

the rest of the story.

Thank you.

Thank you work.

I mean, I made that up right now on the spot.

I don't know if you know that.

As we get older, less people know the references, so it sounds like we made it up.

On the spot's a different show.

When I was in high school and I worked at the tool repair shop, the electronic pneumatic and hydraulic tool repair shop, I worked for that guy, Dean, who was like one of the coolest motherfuckers I ever met.

I'm pretty sure he's probably dead now.

But

he was like one of the hardest working dudes.

But every day when Paul Harvey would come on.

I've never heard of him.

Who's that?

Every day when Paul Harvey would come on, we had to stop working so he could listen.

And he would be like, he didn't want any noise.

He didn't want any kerfuffle.

He didn't want me like banging on anything.

And he wanted me to pay attention.

And he's like,

you got to take a few moments just to pay attention.

And we would listen to Paul Harvey together.

And I grew to love those moments.

What a weird, like,

what a weird thing to think about.

Like, try explaining that to like a young person nowadays.

Like, you would take time out of the day to listen to a radio.

55th minute radio program.

Like, was it even scheduled?

Like, I know I heard Paul Harvey as a kid, but I can't remember if it was scheduled or not.

It was like in the 55th minute on news radio programs.

They would play it right at the end of the hour, a couple times a day.

Yeah.

Like, I know I would hear it, but even as a kid, I never paid attention to the schedule.

It was just, if you don't know who he is, he was just like a, he was like an old school journalist kind of guy who had a great voice, just a great voice.

He was 100 years old my entire life.

Yeah.

And he would just do these like human interest, kind of quirky story, kind of like Andy Rooney.

I will do it.

It's almost like If So All Right was five minutes and like

very, very like mainstream.

That's a really good point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There you go.

If you like did five minutes for radio, just like

like kind of a like a deep dive.

Yeah.

As much as deep as you get in five minutes into whatever the topic was.

Like, you thought you knew the history of pumpkins, but you were wrong.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That sounds like something he would absolutely have done a story about.

Yeah, that's just wild.

The fucking radio, man.

I can't think of the last time we even listened to the radio.

I had to listen to it the other day.

I was driving in my friend's car and I couldn't get my phone to connect, so I put on local radio.

I was like, oh man, this sounds, it sounds exactly like it did in the 90s, but slicker.

Like everything just is like a little bit cleaner.

But boy, it's the fucking same.

We should listen to some radio on the way back to the studio i'd like after this some family listen to some radio jeff i think i could do that yeah i probably have radio in my car i should have radio i probably have radio in my car i don't know if you've if you've ever heard of this or kept up with this but i guess like a m radios are being phased out in electric vehicles yeah and i guess like the broadcasting trade groups and like lobbying organizations are very upset about this that you know they don't have a m radio access in the vehicle why anymore why would why would it be phased out uh i guess the electrical systems in an electrical vehicle operate at such a frequency where it interferes with the AM radio reception.

So it's like it's so bad that they just don't include AM radios on electric vehicles.

And now

the trade industries, the trade groups are framing it as like, well, this is vital for in the event of an emergency, people can get information on AM radio.

I don't know.

anybody younger than us who even knows what a fucking AM radio is.

Getting information on AM radio.

You mean turning through 7,000 channels?

That's where I listened to sports talk, and that was it.

Yeah, I feel like it's all, if you'll hear anyway in Central Texas, it's all either sports radio or country, like old country music,

or just like crazy right-wing political.

Oh, that's comic.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know about crazy guys.

I'm just saying they have some ideas, and they're asking a lot of questions.

Yeah, I don't know anyone who like listens to AM radio other than like my dad.

Crazy to think that in our lifetimes, like when we were young, radio was.

I would love to know how much money radio makes now versus what it made when it was the titan of entertainment that it was in our childhoods.

Like talking about an industry that's just waned over time due to technology.

I don't know what your experience with this was, but I grew up kind of in a remote area.

You don't know my experience with you growing up in a remote area?

I'm going to get there.

So the nearest radio stations, or the nearest AM radio stations were really far, San Antonio, which is like a two and a half hour drive away.

So it's like, if you wanted to listen to AM radio in San Antonio, you could not hear it during the day.

But at night, AM radio comes through more clear.

So it's like I could listen to the AM radio in San Antonio at night because I guess like it bounces off a different layer of the atmosphere and like extends its range.

So it's like more powerful.

And it's like such a weird thing where it's like, man, I wish I could listen to AM radio right now, but I got to wait till the sun goes down to be able to listen to fucking sports radio in San Antonio.

I was thinking about radio the other day because Emily made a Dr.

Demento reference.

And I remembered when I was in high school, middle school and high school, I had a boom box next to my bed.

And on Sunday nights, Dr.

Demento would come on from midnight to 2 a.m.

and I would set my alarm for 11:59.

I would get up and I would hit record on a tape and I would go back to set my alarm and go back to sleep.

And then at 1 a.m., I would wake up again and I would flip the tape and set it to record and go back to sleep.

And then in the morning, I would have a Dr.

Demento tape to listen to in the car or if it was before the car while I was like brushing my teeth and getting ready and stuff.

Do you remember the last time you were that?

Like you had to go through those many, like those kind of hoops for appointment viewing?

What a pain in the ass.

What a pain in the ass.

And that did not bother me at all.

I was excited to do it because I would get to listen to like, you know, boot to the head or whatever dumb Dr.

Demento song was, you know.

It's funny to me what...

For a while, what a big industry,

what a niche industry existed around appointment viewing and trying to help facilitate people recording the entertainment they wanted to watch.

Like

trying to set the time on your VCR.

Like I feel like half the people who own VCRs didn't have the right time because they couldn't figure out how to set the time.

So like then there was like that whole VCR Plus thing where it's like you just have to put in, look in your TV guide, which you get in the mail once a week, put in the five-digit code into your VCR and it knows what channel and what time to record on automatically.

Like there was that whole like, oh, this VCR has VCR Plus.

It's like $20 or $30 more.

Now

you can record 60 minutes without having to be home or set the time on your VCR and program it to be able to record.

What a pain in the ass.

But that's like the minor leaps in tech like that are very funny to look back at.

But at the time, you're like, this game is

pretty crazy.

I don't know how it gets better than this.

It's playing Mario 64 for the first time and going, I don't know if graphics can be better than this, man.

This might be.

This is basically real life.

Yeah.

I remember.

1997.

Like, I remember when we got that, when the Dreamcast came out and we played Madden on the Dreamcast, and Gus and I were just like, it's like we're watching a football game.

This is just real football.

We would just leave it on.

It was like,

how do you you improve upon this?

I haven't seen that in forever, probably since it came out.

I'd love to look at it again now, especially compared to how far it's come and what it looks like now.

It's so funny, too, because when it came out, Gus and I were so excited about the Dreamcast, and there was a deal where

Hollywood Video got them early and you could rent them before they came out.

So we rented a Dreamcast a week before it came out and we just played, and we rented every game.

And I remember we were both so in love with the controller.

And we thought,

this is the perfect controller.

Have you picked one up in the last couple years?

I saw one

at a garage sale.

What a hunk of shit.

How did Terry ever think that was Ergo Dynamics?

It was a great one.

The problem, there was a couple of problems.

The biggest problem is the fact that the cord comes out of the bottom instead of the top, which I guess was to make space for the VMUs, which were useless.

Was a cool idea, but again, was useless.

All I remember being able to do was like

grow chows for Sonic Adventure.

I was going to say, that was it.

It was for my chow garden.

You would hatch chows and grow them.

It was like a little Tamagotchi rip-off.

Why don't they make a new Power Stone?

They're not brave enough.

They're cowards.

I don't think they have the guts.

They don't think so.

They haven't made it.

I thought Powerstone is a great fucking game.

I think it would be really cool.

It's like a fun-ass party game now.

Who the fuck owns the rights to a shitty Sega game?

Probably Sega Stone.

Yeah, right.

That's why they haven't made it.

The fucking worst.

Hey, we should talk about Cosmic Coffee.

This coffee's pretty good.

So I got the Cold Brew, Jeff got the Cold Brew.

You got the Americano, Gus.

It is a bar also.

And then there's also tacos.

And then we didn't get those.

The tacos are in a different building.

They are.

It's a complex is what it is.

Yes, it is.

You come into the compound of cosmic coffee

and you find a spot and then you listen to the most middling music you ever heard.

There's some Tom Petty going on.

There is some Tom Petty going on.

It was Michael Jackson earlier.

Yeah, there were some like mid-90s hits going on too.

I don't know.

What do you think?

Not just of the place, but like the coffee itself and everything.

The coffee's pretty solid.

It's not like, you know, Des desnudo or anything,

but it's really good.

I think it's better than first light last week.

If I had to, you know, give this coffee a rating.

This is like a, I'm going to go with the Jeff Style rating here.

This is like an 8.23.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Well, first off, I'm going to say points for the construction because this place is built like a it's built like a fortifiable compound.

Like if if the shit hit the fan, I think you could protect yourself here.

Yeah.

So I appreciate that level of it.

I'm not as into the coffee as Gus is.

I'm going to give mine a 7.9.

Okay.

I think this coffee's like a six or a seven.

I think it's fine.

Weird.

It's cold brew.

We got cold brew.

It's fine.

It's fine.

It's definitely not an eight.

It's a lot of ice.

My Americano was delicious.

It's pretty chocolatey for a cold brew.

And I mean, it's just fine.

It was just.

Again, I would come over here to bring someone who's never been to Austin and go, hey, isn't this like a little outdoor spot?

I want to try some of those frozen drinks.

There's like an 85% chance that I bring Emily here Sunday morning this weekend to check it out.

Oh, I have a buddy coming into town in like the next couple weeks, and he's like, hey, just, you know, take me around Austin, whatever.

And it's like, we'll come here.

We'll get a taco and a drink.

And then we'll go over to Yellow Jacket and get another drink.

And then, you know, just hop around.

This is one of those places where I would go with Emily and somehow she would know everybody here already.

And then I get to go meet everybody.

Yeah.

It's just, it's a cool spot.

Yeah.

Weird area to be in.

But I think that's just because it is not what I anticipated it to be.

Yeah.

Dirt lots and old buildings and stuff, and it's not that anymore.

Well, I do like it.

I'm glad we came here now because

the weather's only going to get worse and colder.

It's already cold today, so I'm appreciative that we came here while we're still able to sit outside and really enjoy the grounds.

Apparently, it's going to be in the 80s next week.

Yes, it is.

Man, I don't know.

What the fuck do I know?

Emily and I have a bet going right now.

Will it hit 90 again before the end of the year?

That's a good.

That's a pretty good one.

I said no.

I say it's going to hit 88.

Emily thinks it's going to get to 92.

I think 88 is probably a good guess because I don't think it's going to quite get to 90, but I think it'll skirt.

I think it's going to get close.

We're in, as people around here like to call it, we're in false fall.

Yes, definitely.

Definitely false fall.

Do you do a lot of bets and contests with your partner?

Like, Emily and I do that stuff constantly.

No, not really.

The thing we do, the big thing we do is we go to the grocery store, and I'm pretty good about guessing just by looking at groceries how much it's going to cost.

So we have a thing where I guess.

Yeah, it's like Sweet Market Sweep, but I guess what it's going to cost, and then she picks over or under, and then whoever loses has to buy the groceries.

I used to do that and then been very bad at it in the last year where groceries have gotten

stupid expensive

stupid where you're just like you go

110 and it's like 181 and you're like

I hope she always guesses over dude.

I bought a bag of fucking like Reese's candy and like Snickers and shit the other day.

Not even like a mega bag, just a bag just to just while I was thinking about it, just have something for Halloween before I remember to go get a bunch of stuff.

It was like $24 for just a bag of Halloween candy.

We bought two bags of grapes at the grocery store the other day, and it was like $12.

Oh, my God.

What kind of grapes?

Did you get those cotton candy grapes?

No, just like the whatever green table grapes.

Dude.

Okay, cotton candy grapes.

Table grapes?

That's what they call them, right?

Yeah.

Is that the term?

Yeah.

I've never heard table grapes.

Yeah, just like boring-ass box sandwiches.

Regular green grapes.

Boring-ass table grapes.

Yeah, that's what they're called.

Table grapes.

Yeah.

That's what they call it.

Maybe it's an old man thing.

It might be something that no one has.

No one said since the 70s.

Table grapes, huh?

Let's get into some anarchy questions.

I have a couple that I wanted to touch on.

This first one is from, oh, you can send us anarchy questions at Anma Podcast on Instagram and on Twitter.

R slash Anmapodcast, the subreddit.

We do not run.

R.I.P.

Oh, God.

Rest in peace, Smash Mouth.

I saw that at the concert once.

It ain't no joke.

I like to buy the wall.

Oh, really?

They opened for U2 when I saw U2 in Houston.

They opened for you.

The lineup was Mazzy Star was the first opener.

Then it was Smash Mouth.

Was this?

And then it was U2.

Talking about three bands that don't go well together.

It was a weird lineup.

Mazzy Star could do...

That's funny.

Mazzy Star is Music to Commit Suicide 2.

Yes.

What year was that?

That would have been 97.

97?

I think it was 97.

So that was like right after all the pop stuff?

Yeah, it was a pop tour.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's.

Did Frank go with you?

I think yeah, Frank did go with me.

Yeah.

What a weird era for you two.

I think it was like, if I remember right, like Walking on the Sun had come out for Smash, but All-Star was not a big hit.

No, no, no.

All-Star was a few years away.

Right.

So it was like

kind of like a one-hit wonder.

I was like, oh, who are these guys?

But Mazzy Star was like over by that point.

Yeah, it was a little.

That was 94.

Who played first?

Mazzy Star was first.

Anyway, at Argo Podcast,

it it looks great.

We should go to Vegas and see the U2 thing.

It's only like $1,000.

I do want to see it, but yeah, it's expensive.

Or we could see the David Fincher movie instead, not U2.

Either way.

Is there a David Fincher movie in the season?

Yeah, he directed some

planet Earth-style movie with animals and shit.

It looks really cool.

It's like a multimedia experience.

Yeah, it looks really crazy.

So this is.

Is it a thriller?

Yeah, it's a thriller.

It's probably pretty thrilling.

It's a real who'd done it.

Here's the Vatican.

So this is a question from Lex.

She says, have you guys ever tried white coffee?

It's very popular in my home state of Washington.

It's very fruity, grassy, nutty flavor, and more caffeine content because it's less roasted.

If you've tried it, did you like it?

Or do you think it's an abomination?

I've been to Washington State many times.

I've never heard of white coffee.

I've never heard of it.

I don't see coffee color.

Let's just end this.

We should end this.

I don't want to do this anymore.

Like, not just this episode, this whole podcast.

I've never heard of it.

I'm going to look into it because I really want to try it.

Yeah, let's get to it.

I'm amazed amazed that you've never heard of white coffee.

Yeah, I mean, I asked it because I figured it would be a thing where you're like, oh, yeah.

I was in Kabul and it was a thing.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, I just figured it would be like a thing that you had tried one time.

When I was in Kabul, see, I was never in Kabul, but when I was in the Middle East,

they just drank chai.

There wasn't a lot of coffee there.

It was just like, it was very like grassy chai.

Okay.

Yeah.

Like the size of an espresso.

Yeah.

Okay.

Here's another question.

The first one was on our Instagram.

This one's on Twitter.

This is from Caleb.

This is on X.

Caleb K says, what is or was your home away from home, somewhere outside of Austin or Texas, that you got to know really well and had favorite places to go to, like restaurants or bars?

I feel like it was all, for me, it was all the convention cities that we would always hit up.

Definitely like Portland.

Well, that was us for ads.

So Seattle, San Diego.

Lots of places on the west coast, I guess.

Even San Francisco, I guess.

Definitely had like haunts that we would hit.

We, yeah, we spent so much time everywhere.

And the thing that I liked, Gus and I figured out really early, we wanted to feel at home everywhere we went.

So the first time we would go to a place, we would try to clock like a little food place, like a cheap little good like local food eatery, you know, like a burrito stand or something.

And then we would try to find like a really good dive bar.

And then we would just insert ourselves into that dive bar.

And like...

My favorite probably of all time of all the places you and I have been and you and I have we could probably write down a list of 40 places across across the world.

favorite of all the dive bars we ever went to, and we've talked about it a lot, is Cinnabar in San Jose.

I'm not a fan of San Jose at large, but that fucking place was great.

I loved that.

I don't know if you know this, that's

years ago, I think back when the iPhone 4 was coming out, there was one that was like lost and left behind at a bar and like some.

Yeah, it was

there.

But as far as like home away from home, for me, it's Portland.

I spent so much time, so much of my life in Portland.

I think Cinnabar was great, but I think my favorite bar in the world I've ever been to is

Baxter's Inn in Sydney.

Oh, it's like the place where you have to go down the alley, you open an unmarked door, and you go downstairs, and then it's like

the biggest whiskey library you've ever seen in your life.

I had a $100 or $150 shot there with Alan Abdeen once.

They took you into a room that's like a cave.

Yeah.

That they have to open up a fucking, it's like walking into a bank vault.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then.

They have like some super rare whiskeys.

It's like stuff that I've never seen anywhere else, but but I mean, that's just like one draw.

They also have like regular drinks and regular whiskeys and whatnot, so it's not all snooty high-end stuff, but they do have really rare stuff there.

Yeah,

last question.

This is a real local one.

This is from Austin Engerman, who super local, yeah, Austin.

Uh, his name is Austin, he won Chris's chicken spaghetti.

Oh, yeah, yeah, so this is a real local question.

I do it's funny, he's great, yeah, yeah.

Um, rank the following: best to worst:

Sprouts, Whole Foods.

Central Market, Trader Joe's, Wheatsville Co-op.

Can you put those in front of us?

Can I see that?

I'm not going to remember all of them.

Sprouts, Whole Foods.

Central Market, Trader Joe's, Wheatsville Co-op.

Best to worst.

It's Central Market.

Uh-huh.

Wheatsville.

Okay.

Whole Foods, Sprouts, Trader Joe's.

I would...

I'm pretty much identical, but I would flip Trader Joe's and Sprouts.

Okay.

They're different ones at the bottom.

I like Trader Joe's.

I'm not crazy about Sprouts.

There's also, I noticed he didn't throw H-E-B or

Randall's or Fresh Plus

or Natural Grocers

or Arlen's.

Although I think Arlen's are closed.

That became a Fresh Plus.

Yeah.

Yeah, why didn't he throw Arlen's in there?

But yeah, I agree with your list, guys.

I just like Trader Joe's a little more than you do.

Yeah.

Thank you, Austin.

That was a great question.

Yeah, that's a good question.

And if you want to send us a question, you can.

And Central Market is fucking great, by the way.

It really is.

I don't make enough money to shop there, but yeah, I feel that.

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We have a picture last week of Gus shaking his fist.

Oh, that's a good one.

A picture of Will Farrell.

There's a lot of great stuff.

I probably have photos of that whiskey bar and that little whiskey room.

I can send you away.

Please.

I'd love that.

That'd be great.

Any final thoughts, parting words for the folks at home?

Let's get some more coffee.

Let's get some white coffee.

Let's get some white coffee.

Thanks for listening.

Hopefully, you'll tune in next week.

And if you wouldn't mind doing me a favor, tell a friend about this stupid podcast and how much fun it is to listen to and how it's not potty, it's not video game stuff.

It's just like regular dudes talking about regular stuff.

Yeah,

sometimes we talk about video games.

Sometimes, but it's not like what it's about.

I feel like there are people, I've talked to a lot of people in the wild lately who have, I've discovered like preconceived notions about what our podcasts are, and they're just wildly inaccurate.

And so

maybe refer a friend.

Yeah.

I'm going to Google white coffee, but I don't think it's going to come up very often.

I wouldn't do it.

No hoes.