#16 Rob

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Speaker 30 Hello. What are your top three interests?

Speaker 31 Did you say what are my top three interests?

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Is it a job interview? No, I was just...

Speaker 30 What's so funny about that?

Speaker 32 Why?

Speaker 30 I just want to get to know you better.

Speaker 31 After 40 years, you want to know what you're doing.

Speaker 30 Just give me what's your top interest?

Speaker 31 Probably my kids.

Speaker 30 Children in general, yeah. Children.

Speaker 30 Would you say couscous?

Speaker 31 I would not say couscous.

Speaker 30 You really like couscous.

Speaker 30 I wouldn't, but I mean.

Speaker 30 So your children, number one. Number two, a close second is couscous.
And what's three?

Speaker 31 Why don't you just tell me where number three is?

Speaker 33 Go ahead.

Speaker 31 What is my number three?

Speaker 30 Hanging up on me?

Speaker 30 Boom, boom. Start the show.

Speaker 30 From Gimlet Media, I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and this is Heavyweight.

Speaker 30 Today's episode:

Speaker 26 Rob.

Speaker 30 My friend Rob Cordry is a famous actor, and the fact you think I'm resentful is ridiculous. No, I'm afraid that says more about you than it does about me.

Speaker 30 I guess you could say Robert and I have both done pretty well. He works with famous movie stars like Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

Speaker 30 and I work with famous podcast editors like Jorge the Rock Collection just.

Speaker 30 and boy does he have a lot of amethyst.

Speaker 30 Rob was a correspondent on The Daily Show and stars in film franchises like Hot Tubs Time Machine 1 and 2 and I star in Heavyweight,

Speaker 30 the podcast you're listening to right now.

Speaker 30 So good for Rob and good for me.

Speaker 30 I don't even know why we're still talking about this.

Speaker 30 Because after all, it wasn't Dwayne Johnson who Rob recently approached with a unique problem. It was me.

Speaker 30 Aside from a pocket full of noogies and karate chops, I guess there wasn't a thing the great The Rock could do for Robert.

Speaker 30 Rob is more your showbiz name, right?

Speaker 26 But it's also my name. It is?

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Because of showbiz opportunities, Rob can't leave Hollywood, so he phones me from a studio in LA.

Speaker 34 Hey, John, start whenever you want and we'll just keep rolling.

Speaker 30 Once his studio operator Laura gets us rolling, Rob tells me his tale of woe. It all began with his daughter, Sloane.

Speaker 26 My daughter is 11

Speaker 26 and she tripped over a log and broke her arm.

Speaker 30 Sloane was at school and she tripped over a log and fell.

Speaker 26 Which was exactly how I broke my arm when I was a kid.

Speaker 30 When Rob was around his daughter's age, he was out in the woods with his Boy Scout troop, and he also tripped over a log and broke his arm. Exactly like Sloane.

Speaker 30 Did you tell her this story about how when you were a kid, the same thing had happened to you?

Speaker 26 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 26 Every connection I make with her, I kind of cherish, and I thought that was just a funny one that we broke our arms in the same exact way.

Speaker 26 So

Speaker 26 she went and got a cast

Speaker 26 and I forwarded the picture. It was this adorable picture of my daughter and her purple cast and

Speaker 26 I sent the picture to my family.

Speaker 30 Rob texted the photo to his brother, his sister, his mother, and his father. And so a text thread began.
Do you have the text on you?

Speaker 26 I do. I think I do.
Yeah, it might take me a second to find it. Sure, yeah.

Speaker 26 Okay, is this

Speaker 26 it?

Speaker 26 just trying to find the beginning it's so long um there's a lot about my daughter here um a lot of oh man that poor little girl and and so forth when the family asked how sloan had broken her arm rob excitedly told them about the weird coincidence and that's when rob's troubles began

Speaker 26 my mother immediately shot back, you never broke your arm.

Speaker 26 My mother said, I do not remember that at all. Laura, do you remember that? Because my sister is the keeper of memories.

Speaker 30 In a family, each member has their role, the thing that defines them. Laura's role is keeper of memories.
And immediately, she texted back, don't recall any of this.

Speaker 30 A second later, Rob's father weighed in with ridicule.

Speaker 26 Was that the camping trip where you broke your arm and it healed overnight?

Speaker 30 Rob shot back.

Speaker 26 I had a cast for weeks exclamation point.

Speaker 30 Next, Rob's younger brother Nate chimed in.

Speaker 26 Oh boy, here we go. Another I broke my arm, I broke my arm story.
Look, I'm the broken arm guy. That's my role.

Speaker 30 In a family, those agreed-upon roles are reinforced through agreed-upon stories. Rob says the corderies have about a half a dozen chestnuts that get told over and over.

Speaker 30 One of the biggies is about young Nate and how he broke his arm twice. Rob's mom is quick to confirm.

Speaker 26 That's true. You are the broken arm, but.

Speaker 26 I'm just reading this verbatim. My mother can't type worth a crap.
And then she wrote right after that: broken arm guy. I don't have my glasses on.

Speaker 26 I was texting with them for about an hour afterwards, and everyone in my family swears that I never broke my arm.

Speaker 30 This, in spite of Rob's absolute certainty that he did break his arm.

Speaker 26 It really, it made me angry. It's very invalidating.
I felt like, you know, my mother didn't remember this

Speaker 26 experience, this, this, that

Speaker 26 her son was in pain and

Speaker 26 had to be taken to the hospital and was

Speaker 26 and was in a cast

Speaker 26 for a long time, you know, and I think I felt

Speaker 26 I felt, I don't know, forgotten.

Speaker 30 Rob has crystal clear memories of the day it happened.

Speaker 26 I was on a camp out.

Speaker 26 My troop, my Boy Scout troop, would go on a camping trip one weekend out of every month. It was the fall, so I assume we were in Plymouth, Massachusetts.

Speaker 26 It was dark, and I was standing on a log, sort of a log that you would sit on in front of a campfire. And

Speaker 26 it was rolling. I was rolling it.
And I think maybe I was just trying to make people laugh. And

Speaker 26 I fell

Speaker 26 and knew immediately that I had broken my arm. I've never felt that kind of pain.

Speaker 30 One of the adults on the trip, an old friend of the family named Don Smith, took Rob to the hospital where he was fitted with a cast. Afterwards, Mr.
Smith brought Rob back to the campground.

Speaker 30 And that night, Rob slept in the back of a pickup while Mr. Smith slept up front, behind the wheel of the truck.

Speaker 26 And

Speaker 26 I remember waking up and being in such pain. And I think I waited there for, it felt like the longest time that I was just laboring over waking him up.
I felt so bad waking him up.

Speaker 30 Eventually, the pain became so severe that Rob had no choice but to rouse Mr. Smith for a painkiller.
I asked him what else he remembers.

Speaker 26 The way it smelled.

Speaker 30 The cast.

Speaker 26 Yeah. I mean, you know, your arms covered up in plaster for five to seven weeks.
And so, you know, it smells like a

Speaker 26 gym locker that hasn't been cleaned in five to seven weeks. And I remember liking the smell.

Speaker 26 That's the weird part. And getting it off.
I remember getting it off. I remember getting the cast off and

Speaker 26 it smelled terrible, of course, but good to me. I just pretended that it smelled awful while I was drinking it in.
And

Speaker 26 my arm had just withered to nothing. It looked like a different person's arm.

Speaker 26 I can't be making that up, right?

Speaker 30 Rob fired off a series of texts to his family, recounting those memories in exhaustive detail. The camp out, Mr.
Smith, the cast. When he finished, his mom was the first to text back.

Speaker 26 I'm afraid you were hallucinating, sweetie.

Speaker 30 Rob tried to laugh it off, but he couldn't stop thinking about it. That evening, Rob shared his frustration with his wife.

Speaker 26 And she patiently listened to the texts, and afterwards, she smiled, and and she said, I'm on your family's side.

Speaker 30 Gently, his wife reminded him that he's kind of absent-minded. He doesn't always have the best memory.
Also, in their 16 years of marriage, Rob had never once mentioned a broken arm.

Speaker 30 Maybe Rob's mom was right. Maybe he was hallucinating.

Speaker 26 Either I'm telling the truth, Jonathan, or I'm completely insane. And it could could be that I'm insane.

Speaker 30 Is Rob insane? Or had he really broken his arm? I was going to find out. But before setting forth on something like this, I need a call to arms.
Something to stir my innards good.

Speaker 30 So we're going to do this.

Speaker 30 I'm going to do it.

Speaker 26 Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 30 My innards remain unstirred.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 30 I'm going to get right on this.

Speaker 26 All right, great.

Speaker 30 But just when I think that Rob will never give my innards the stirring they need.

Speaker 26 Hey, Jonathan. Yes.

Speaker 26 Go get him, you son of a bitch.

Speaker 30 That's what I was doing. Was that good?

Speaker 30 That's good.

Speaker 26 I was going to say either that or get those bastards, but I'd have felt weird calling my family bastards.

Speaker 30 After the break, questioning some dirty rotten bastards.

Speaker 26 All right, great. I love you very much.

Speaker 30 Oh, thank you. Thank you.
Right back at you there.

Speaker 30 Say it.

Speaker 26 I want you to say it. I love you.

Speaker 30 So.

Speaker 26 What?

Speaker 30 I just.

Speaker 26 Hello? Hello? Yeah, I'm still here.

Speaker 30 So, Laura is there as well. Yeah.

Speaker 26 You dropped out a little bit there, Jonathan.

Speaker 34 Oh, if you could repeat what you said, that'd be great.

Speaker 30 Is Rob still there?

Speaker 26 I'm still here.

Speaker 34 Yeah, we're both here. I think there's one little section where you dropped out a bit.

Speaker 26 I think you know what section that was, Jonathan.

Speaker 30 I was just asking if you were if you were still. Can you hear me, Laura?

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Speaker 26 Hello. Hi, is this Robin?

Speaker 32 It is. Hello.

Speaker 26 Hey, is this Laura? It is. Nate?

Speaker 30 Yes. Mr.
Cordry? Yes. Is this an okay time to talk? My search for the truth begins with the Cordrys.
Rob's brother, Nate.

Speaker 37 I'm comfortably sitting in a chair.

Speaker 30 His sister, Laura.

Speaker 38 Right now, we're in Disney World.

Speaker 30 His mother, Robin.

Speaker 39 I'm in my car in front of a post office.

Speaker 30 And his father, Steve.

Speaker 40 I'm in Florida.

Speaker 30 What makes them all so certain that Rob never broke his arm?

Speaker 37 No one in the family can remember it. His own mother.

Speaker 41 No broken arm for Rob.

Speaker 39 His own father.

Speaker 40 I certainly don't remember him coming back in a cab.

Speaker 37 If there's anyone's memory in the family that I would trust, it would be Laura.

Speaker 38 Yeah, I don't think it happened. I typically remember everything from every situation in the family, so...

Speaker 30 And you've not been wrong before?

Speaker 38 No.

Speaker 30 My first thought is that maybe around the time Rob broke his arm, something traumatic happened in the Cordry's home life.

Speaker 30 Something that might have overshadowed the accident and thus erased it from the collective memory. The death of a grandparent, perhaps, or a house fire.

Speaker 38 No, nothing.

Speaker 38 Well, we got cable one summer, so that kind of derailed the entire neighborhood.

Speaker 30 What about Rob's distinct memory of that first night in a cast, I asked them, sleeping in the back of a pickup truck?

Speaker 40 Mr. Smith never owned a pickup.
And we knew the Smiths a long time and lived across the street from us for a number of years. and never had a pickup.

Speaker 30 Mr. Smith has since died, so I can't turn to him for confirmation about the truck.
But it isn't just the pickup that's suspicious. It's the hospital, too.

Speaker 30 Rob claims he got his cast at the Jordan Hospital. Rob's mom was a nurse with strong opinions, and she says the Jordan Hospital was a, quote, snake pit.

Speaker 30 She'd be damned if she allowed any member of the Cordry clan to set foot in that hospital-shaped butcher's college.

Speaker 39 There were strict orders if any of my kids get hurt, do not take them to that hospital.

Speaker 40 Don't go to the Jordan Hospital.

Speaker 38 That would never happen. He said he went to Jordan Hospital.

Speaker 40 In his make-believe pickup.

Speaker 37 And most damning of all, I broke my arm.

Speaker 35 Twice.

Speaker 40 The only one that I remember having a cast on his arm was his younger brother, Nathan.

Speaker 38 My younger brother, Nate, broke his arm, broke his arm twice.

Speaker 39 I had to be in traction, was in traction for two weeks.

Speaker 32 Two weeks, for 14 days.

Speaker 30 So the corjuries aren't just a bunch of broken arm deniers. They all remember when Nate's arm broke and who broke it.

Speaker 37 I was running out of the family room onto the back patio, and it was concrete. And I ran and I tripped and I fell

Speaker 37 and I broke my arm.

Speaker 37 And for all of the for my entire adult life, I had thought that my shoelaces were untied.

Speaker 37 That is not the truth.

Speaker 37 Many years later, Rob said, you know, it wasn't your shoelace.

Speaker 40 I tripped you.

Speaker 37 He stepped on my shoelace. He was behind the door.
And I was like, we involved, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 39 You tripped me.

Speaker 30 Rob didn't bring up any of this.

Speaker 41 Oh, what a surprise.

Speaker 30 According to Nate, Rob's false memory stems from guilt. Laura agrees, saying that seeing Nate in traction was traumatic for Rob.

Speaker 38 So I don't know if he's feeling responsible, so now he's trying to make up for it by

Speaker 38 saying, Well, I also broke my arm.

Speaker 30 But Rob's visceral memories, the smell of the cast, the sight of the withered arm, how could he have just invented such concrete details?

Speaker 38 He was with Nate when Nate had his cast removed.

Speaker 30 And he remembers the smell of Nate's cast.

Speaker 38 I remember the smell of Nate's cast.

Speaker 38 When he took it off, his arm was like yellow and it looked like it was like molting. It was nasty and it smelled so bad.

Speaker 32 Ugh.

Speaker 30 I asked Laura if she would describe the odor as reminiscent of, say, a gym locker. And Laura says, yes, exactly.

Speaker 30 A gym locker.

Speaker 44 I think he might have tried to steal my memory.

Speaker 30 Even if you're famous, you shouldn't go around stealing people's memories.

Speaker 41 Hello, Jonathan.

Speaker 30 Hi, how are you? After speaking with the cordris, I decide that I no longer believe Rob. It isn't like I think he's lying, it's more like I think he's insane.
So, I need to tread carefully.

Speaker 30 So, I wanted

Speaker 30 I

Speaker 30 was calling because I wanted to report back to you on some of my findings.

Speaker 45 I can't wait.

Speaker 30 Easy does it, Johnny Boy.

Speaker 26 Okay, well,

Speaker 30 I don't know that it's looking great.

Speaker 30 So for one thing,

Speaker 30 I spoke to your dad. Yeah.

Speaker 30 And he said

Speaker 30 that

Speaker 30 Don Smith,

Speaker 30 the scout leader,

Speaker 30 doesn't even own a pickup truck.

Speaker 45 Oh, he would never. He would never have owned a pickup truck.

Speaker 41 No, he's not that kind of guy.

Speaker 45 I'm not sure if it was him.

Speaker 30 As Rob flounders for an excuse, I try my best to understand the logic of his deranged mind.

Speaker 30 Don Smith might have like found a pickup truck that wasn't his that you guys slept in together?

Speaker 32 Yes, yes.

Speaker 44 I assume like whoever had the most comfortable

Speaker 40 vehicle to sleep in.

Speaker 30 But what about the snake-ridden Jordan Hospital, I ask. His mom swears that she'd written on his medical form that he was never to go there.
But Rob brushes that off with another half-baked excuse.

Speaker 30 It was so late at night, he says. She probably didn't think it was worth making the trip to take her wounded son elsewhere.

Speaker 44 You know, she's already in her robe watching her stories and drinking Diet Coke and smoking.

Speaker 30 Rob's explanations were becoming increasingly far-fetched, but he was sticking to his story. I had no choice but to bring out the big guns.

Speaker 30 The other thing that you failed to mention to me, according to your family, you were responsible for for Nate's broken arm.

Speaker 30 Oh no.

Speaker 30 Rob says Nate's arm is something he still feels bad about, which is why he doesn't like bringing it up. So I turned to the one piece of evidence I know Rob can't deny.

Speaker 30 When Laura, keeper of memories, told me about Nate, broken arm guy, getting his cast removed, her description was suspiciously familiar.

Speaker 30 She mentioned Nate's withered arm and how it smelled like a gym locker.

Speaker 44 Which is exactly my story.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 30 So,

Speaker 30 I mean, there's being forgetful, and then there's completely fabricating

Speaker 30 like reality. I mean, that that's

Speaker 45 yeah, it's it's made me I don't know, it's made me

Speaker 32 kind of look back at my entire life and realize that

Speaker 32 I don't remember a lot.

Speaker 45 And it makes me very sad.

Speaker 30 It's finally beginning to sink in. Maybe Rob didn't break his arm.

Speaker 30 Before we get off the phone, Rob asks me if, in spite of all this, I'll keep digging a little longer. And I promise him I will.

Speaker 30 I'll reach out to you when I have something new.

Speaker 45 Great. And I'm Jonathan.

Speaker 30 Yes.

Speaker 45 I love you very, very much.

Speaker 30 I hear you, buddy.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 you know what? What? I'm in a crowded area.

Speaker 30 Hello?

Speaker 47 Yes, my name's David Orcutt. You called and left a message.

Speaker 30 After reaching out to several of Rob's childhood friends who remembered nothing about a broken arm, I eventually hear back from David Orcott.

Speaker 30 David and Rob were in the Boy Scouts together, and Rob recalls them taking a group of Girl Scouts on a hike during the autumn of his broken arm.

Speaker 30 I fill David in on the alleged broken arm and all the holes in Rob's story. Every single person in his family said,

Speaker 30 you're crazy.

Speaker 30 You never broke your arm. And they were quite positive of this but he is quite positive himself that he did break his arm and even has like

Speaker 44 sorry he did break his arm

Speaker 47 i i've got a picture of him with a broken arm

Speaker 30 they need the picture yeah this is crazy do you still have this photograph oh yeah wow well you're the first person that I've spoken to who's confirmed this. This is kind of amazing.

Speaker 47 The only reason is I believe I have a scrapbook that that picture is in there.

Speaker 30 That's fantastic.

Speaker 47 I could check that tonight and verify it if you want. And then if you need a scan copy or scan of it, we can do something along those lines.
Won't be a problem.

Speaker 30 Maybe Rob wasn't as insane as you people thought.

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Speaker 30 As promised, a couple days later, I receive the photo from David Orcott. Rob's on vacation in Hawaii, a paradise island populated by celebs like Tom Selick and Don Ho.

Speaker 30 But I just can't wait to share the news. Plus, I've never talked to anyone in Hawaii before.

Speaker 26 Hawaii.

Speaker 30 Are you in Hawaii right now?

Speaker 46 I am, yeah.

Speaker 30 Once Rob's done bragging, I tell him I have something to share. Okay, here we go.
I'm texting it to you right

Speaker 26 now.

Speaker 30 It should be on its way.

Speaker 45 I just got a text from Jonathan Goldstein.

Speaker 26 That would be me.

Speaker 45 Attachment, one image.

Speaker 32 Whoa.

Speaker 30 The photo looks like it was shot on a 1980s instomatic. In the foreground is a group of Girl Scouts sitting on a ledge, and behind them.

Speaker 30 There's me

Speaker 45 in the back row with a broken arm.

Speaker 30 The picture is pretty grainy, but you can see a Rob-like boy looking little for his age compared to his friend David, who stands beside him. Rob's arm is covered in something big and white.

Speaker 30 Is it just like you remembered it?

Speaker 44 With it, yes.

Speaker 32 Yes.

Speaker 41 With a huge, huge cast.

Speaker 45 And look, and not looking happy either.

Speaker 30 Armed with this, I mean, what can they possibly say?

Speaker 45 I don't know. I almost feel bad for them.

Speaker 30 Evidence in hand, Rob organizes a conference call with the whole cordry clan. And to best enjoy the moment, he also writes a victory speech.
I'm very proud of it. Do you need to practice it?

Speaker 32 Yes.

Speaker 26 Let's hear it.

Speaker 45 I can't imagine what you're all feeling right now.

Speaker 45 How would I react if I had forgotten that my son or brother spent five to six lonely weeks of recovery, shoved into a cast so bulky, so glaringly white, it would not surprise me if strangers who at the time had been cursed to catch a glimpse of me lugging that albatross around still jolt awake at night screaming, man.

Speaker 45 That kid sure did have a broken arm. I'll never forget.

Speaker 41 It was a big cast

Speaker 45 Your son your brother will always be here to remind you that when I was a kid I definitely

Speaker 41 definitely

Speaker 26 broke my arm

Speaker 30 That's beautiful understated, but beautiful All right, so you know what? Why don't we call into this conference line just so we'll be on the line before they will so we could greet them Okay.

Speaker 30 Just like in those movies, you know what I mean? Where like someone walks into the room, and then the person with the evidence is sitting calmly, cross-legged in an armchair.

Speaker 45 Hello, family.

Speaker 30 Glad you can make it.

Speaker 45 Please make yourself comfortable.

Speaker 30 Okay, so I'll call in, and you're going to call in as well, right?

Speaker 45 I'm going to call in, yeah,

Speaker 32 in one minute.

Speaker 26 Okay.

Speaker 26 Joining conference now.

Speaker 26 Hello.

Speaker 48 Hey, Jonathan, you have Nate so far.

Speaker 32 Oh, hi.

Speaker 26 Oh, hi, Nate.

Speaker 30 I was hoping to get in here before everybody.

Speaker 33 Mama Cords is here.

Speaker 30 Hi.

Speaker 33 Hi.

Speaker 33 Who's that?

Speaker 49 Hey.

Speaker 33 She is the dad. Hello.

Speaker 38 Hi, it's Laura.

Speaker 30 Oh, hi.

Speaker 26 How are you?

Speaker 30 Hi, sister Laura. It's so nice that you're all here.
I just got off the phone with your brother Rob.

Speaker 30 Oh.

Speaker 32 Hello.

Speaker 39 There's my son, Rob.

Speaker 26 Oh, no.

Speaker 32 Did she beat us?

Speaker 48 We all beat you.

Speaker 33 Oh, everybody's there?

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 30 We were one minute into Rob's victory conference call, and already his family was ruining his moment. I can tell Rob needs a minute to collect himself, to get back into that aloha state of mind.

Speaker 30 So taking my cues from a southern lawyer in a Hanna-Barbera cartoon, possibly portrayed by a large rooster wearing suspenders, I take the stage.

Speaker 30 The reason I've brought everyone here together is because I've uncovered a piece of evidence that I think might very well be definitive.

Speaker 30 In homage to the original text message thread that started this whole thing, I group text the photo of Rob to the whole family.

Speaker 26 Here we go. I'm about to hit send.

Speaker 30 You all set?

Speaker 26 Mm-hmm. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 30 Okay, just sent it.

Speaker 32 Oh, wow.

Speaker 30 There's a moment of silence as everyone studies the photo. I worry that maybe it isn't clear enough that the corduries will contest it's even a picture of Rob.

Speaker 30 But then,

Speaker 33 does look like Robert in an in a calf.

Speaker 33 It does.

Speaker 30 With Rob's identity confirmed, I give it two shakes of a lamb's tail for the apologies to start rolling in so Rob can put this whole business behind him and enjoy his two o'clock hula dancing class with a free and easy mind.

Speaker 30 But two shakes of a lamb's tail becomes three shakes and then

Speaker 30 four shakes.

Speaker 30 Um

Speaker 30 so do you all like believe now like definitively that Rob was Rob was right and you guys were wrong?

Speaker 33 I don't know how dad and I and Laura and they could not remember this

Speaker 30 again. A hush falls over the conference call.
How could they not remember? It just didn't make sense.

Speaker 30 Unless.

Speaker 49 I think that was the camp at that. They were practicing first aid, and they were using Rob as a guinea pig on how to

Speaker 49 splint a broken arm

Speaker 41 with that the floodgates are open and everyone begins forwarding a theory it does vaguely look like a pretend cast because of its eye like an Adobe Photoshop

Speaker 42 maybe you just wore that cast when you were away from the house oh Christ

Speaker 30 From here, all of the corgery's small theories converge into one grand theory, which they trumpet in much the way villagers in a Broadway musical might.

Speaker 50 It kind of looks like a sling though, not really.

Speaker 41 It does look like a sling.

Speaker 50 Yeah, that's what you're seeing is a sling.

Speaker 42 So maybe.

Speaker 50 Sprained.

Speaker 49 It was a sling. Sprain, or

Speaker 49 that's what it was, yeah.

Speaker 26 Okay, I say.

Speaker 30 If it was a sprain, then why wouldn't you just remember a sprain?

Speaker 50 A sprain is not not that memorable

Speaker 44 just doesn't this doesn't look right a sprain in a sling

Speaker 30 that big right so then it can't be a sprain it has to be a broken arm no

Speaker 32 but that would still be an enormous cast on a small slight

Speaker 33 boy

Speaker 30 in the face of the evidence I wonder if Rob's family is clinging to this whole sprain thing because they just feel bad for not remembering. Do you think it's a denial out of guilt, you guys?

Speaker 33 I don't feel guilty. Neither do I.

Speaker 37 I will say that my memory is imperfect, and it's altogether likely that you did break your arm.

Speaker 30 Just likely, not 100%, though.

Speaker 37 I do have zero memory of it.

Speaker 30 But what about even seeing the photographic evidence?

Speaker 50 I'm not 100% convinced because nobody remembers it.

Speaker 30 In this way, we go around and around. Since no one remembers it, then it didn't happen.
And if it didn't happen, how could anyone remember it? And all the while, Rob is silent.

Speaker 30 I imagine him on the other end of the line, seated alone at a luau table, sadly picking the weeds from his grass skirt and taking sad, slow sips from one of those drinks that come in a flaming pineapple, the kind famous people are forever throwing at the paparazzi.

Speaker 30 Suddenly, Rob lets his frustration be known.

Speaker 45 I cannot believe that you guys are working this hard

Speaker 44 to not believe that I broke my arm.

Speaker 33 I did not expect this.

Speaker 45 I did not expect this reaction.

Speaker 30 It seems it's going to take more than an old photograph to change the cordury's cemented version of history, and it's going to take the cordury's belief in Rob to make him feel sane again.

Speaker 30 So I asked the family what they'll need to accept that Rob broke his arm.

Speaker 32 Well, where's the medical records?

Speaker 33 Then I would believe it. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 33 Of course. Of course.

Speaker 30 And if we're able to present medical records, attesting to the fact that Rob broke his arm, would they then all apologize to Rob?

Speaker 44 If this is all true, he deserves an apology.

Speaker 38 I would apologize, yeah.

Speaker 40 I would definitely apologize.

Speaker 39 I would feel terrible.

Speaker 44 Absolutely.

Speaker 32 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 44 I'll be the first to stand up.

Speaker 30 But do you think that's going to happen?

Speaker 44 No, I don't.

Speaker 32 I really think no.

Speaker 30 I don't know if this is the time to bring up the speech, but

Speaker 32 I mean,

Speaker 45 yeah, I wrote a speech. I wrote a victory speech.

Speaker 30 In spite of everything, I knew that Rob was proud of that speech. And since he'd already written it, I figured he might as well read it.

Speaker 40 So, I can't imagine.

Speaker 44 I gotta go, actually.

Speaker 32 Oh.

Speaker 45 I'll start again.

Speaker 45 I can't imagine what you're all feeling right now.

Speaker 40 How would I react if I had forgotten that

Speaker 30 the corderies want written proof, but do do hospitals even keep records from so long ago? Let alone a snake pit like the Jordan Hospital.

Speaker 30 Since Rob can't be expected to interrupt his Hawaiian holiday with the trivial business of procuring paperwork, I decide to handle it myself.

Speaker 30 And who better to help me handle it myself than someone else? And who better a someone else than an actual doctor?

Speaker 26 Hello?

Speaker 26 Jackie?

Speaker 31 I'm just walking home from work. I'm actually not far from your old apartment.

Speaker 30 Oh, really? Can you check if I have any mail?

Speaker 31 Be calling me for it.

Speaker 45 Let's get right to it.

Speaker 30 I explained to Jackie that a friend of mine, a famous friend, who for his own privacy I'd rather not name, was in need of medical records. They were probably like easily over 30 years ago.

Speaker 30 Do you think they would still exist?

Speaker 31 Well, it depends. So they might either get rid of them or they might have gone into deep storage, but they may have a record.

Speaker 30 As a doctor, would you be able to get the records out of deep storage?

Speaker 31 No, but he can request them himself. He doesn't need me.

Speaker 30 Well, first of all, he's a very busy man.

Speaker 31 Did I mention that he's not busy, right?

Speaker 30 This isn't going at all the way I'd hoped. Instead of offering help, Jackie is offering jealousy of Rob.

Speaker 30 I explained that she's being ridiculous, that she's also my friend, but that Rob just has VIP needs, the needs of a very important. Here, let me reiterate what I already said

Speaker 30 thing.

Speaker 30 You said that he could phone up and he could find out. He can get them himself.

Speaker 31 Yeah. He needs his signature on a piece of paper.
What are you talking to yourself? Hi, Jeremy. How are you?

Speaker 30 In the midst of tearing me a new beehole, Jackie runs into a friend of hers named Jeremy. I'd never heard this tone in her voice before.

Speaker 30 Could it be that an unplanned social encounter with a friend was making Jackie happy?

Speaker 30 I'm talking to Jonathan.

Speaker 31 He's just trying to like, you know, yeah, Donthan. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 30 Oh, it's so good to see you.

Speaker 30 Say hi to Jeremy.

Speaker 34 Medical records, this is Karen. How can I help you?

Speaker 30 Hi there. I have a question.
When I explain to Karen what I'm after, I expect her to say something like, medical records from the 1980s? Dude, this is the Jordan Hospital.

Speaker 30 I'm performing open heart surgery with a spatula as we speak, and I'm the mother F and switchboard operator. But to my surprise...

Speaker 34 We do have records that go that far back.

Speaker 34 We have a copy service correspondence team and if they're able to find anything, lots of times they're on microfiche, then they can reach out.

Speaker 30 Okay, thank you so much.

Speaker 26 Okay, good luck. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Okay, bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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Speaker 30 asks Gimlet CEO and founder Alex Bloomberg. A letter, I say.

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Speaker 30 He then walks away performing Tai Chi poses and I tear open the envelope.

Speaker 30 Inside is a single sheet of paper. At the top it reads, The Jordan Hospital, Emergency Department.
But as for the rest of the sheet, I can't make out a word.

Speaker 30 It's filled from top to bottom with doctor jargon, written in doctor handwriting. And so, who better to translate than an actual doctor?

Speaker 30 Jackie? Hang on a second.

Speaker 26 You're wearing a turtleneck? Yeah.

Speaker 31 And what's nice about this turtleneck is that it has no arms.

Speaker 30 So it's just a neck?

Speaker 31 Yep.

Speaker 30 Rather than risk another dust-up by suggesting Jackie might not be wearing a turtleneck at all, but rather a neck brace, I instead text her the records so she can take a look.

Speaker 31 I can't do that while I'm driving.

Speaker 30 Can you pull over to the side of the road, to the shoulder of the road?

Speaker 31 Absolutely not.

Speaker 30 You cut out there for a second. Did you say yes?

Speaker 31 I said, absolutely not.

Speaker 30 You cut out again.

Speaker 30 You're pulling over.

Speaker 31 Stop telling me I cut out. I did not cut out, and I'm not pulling over.

Speaker 30 I think you cut out again. So you're pulling over.

Speaker 30 Okay, so

Speaker 30 did you look at what I sent you?

Speaker 31 No, I didn't look at what you're saying. John,

Speaker 31 I'm on the highway, John. John, I'm on the highway.

Speaker 30 Just dart your eyes between the windshield and the papers that I just sent you.

Speaker 30 No.

Speaker 30 Because Jackie's neck brace seems to be constricting the flow of kindness from her heart to her mouth, I decide to just read to her what little I can make out. It was an exam, Med

Speaker 30 Richards 40.

Speaker 30 Ugh, like, where does it say if he just broke his arm?

Speaker 30 FX of right

Speaker 26 distal radi radius?

Speaker 45 FX means fracture of distal radius.

Speaker 30 FX means fractured. Yeah.

Speaker 30 So he fractured his arm.

Speaker 32 Yep.

Speaker 30 So is that the same thing as breaking?

Speaker 48 Yes.

Speaker 30 So he broke his arm.

Speaker 32 He broke his arm. Looks like it.

Speaker 30 This confirms he broke his arm.

Speaker 31 Wonderful. Are we done?

Speaker 30 In high spirits, I get Rob, who's just returned from another vacation, back on the phone. Welcome back from Fiji.

Speaker 45 Thank you very much.

Speaker 30 Everything must seem like sort of like in black and white now.

Speaker 45 Fiji is not all. It sounds more exotic than it is.

Speaker 30 When Rob's done bragging, I tell him I have some news. I wanted to share with you the ER report.

Speaker 30 Cool.

Speaker 40 I'm nervous.

Speaker 45 Because if I didn't break my arm, then I mean, I gotta shut everything down and live in therapy.

Speaker 30 You broke your arm.

Speaker 41 I did.

Speaker 26 You did, yeah.

Speaker 44 Of course I did.

Speaker 26 I know.

Speaker 26 Joining Conference Now.

Speaker 30 An impromptu family conference call is arranged. Nate is traveling and unable to make it, but we get everyone else on the line.
Any last-minute predictions anybody wants to make?

Speaker 48 Don't think there's a record of it.

Speaker 30 Anybody else?

Speaker 48 I'm thinking a sprain.

Speaker 30 Well, according to the hospital report,

Speaker 26 Rob broke his arm.

Speaker 26 Wow. Okay, you're kidding.
No.

Speaker 48 What did the hospital record say?

Speaker 30 I texted over, and since Rob's mom is a nurse, she decodes the report for the rest of the family.

Speaker 48 Okay, complained of pain, swelling, wrist tripped over log, landing on wrist.

Speaker 30 It was just as Rob had said.

Speaker 48 Right wrist, distal forearm.

Speaker 48 The fractured distal radio.

Speaker 32 Wow.

Speaker 48 My full apologies, Robert.

Speaker 30 The medical report has done the job.

Speaker 49 I am sorry that I don't remember this incident at all. I mean, I remember a lot of other incidences,

Speaker 49 but this one I don't remember it, but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

Speaker 48 You've got me in tears, and

Speaker 48 I believe you.

Speaker 44 Nothing to be in tears over.

Speaker 30 As his family begins to apologize, Rob begins to backpedal.

Speaker 44 I can't imagine making you apologize for this, but but like

Speaker 30 I could do that. No,

Speaker 44 this is that. It just makes me uncomfortable.
I think it's kind of understandable that a group of four people

Speaker 44 would forget something like this because it was it was fairly trivial. No,

Speaker 48 I disagree. I this was not trivial.
It wasn't a little thing. You broke your arm

Speaker 48 and I have absolutely no memory of it. That makes me crazy.

Speaker 49 That kind of makes me feel bad that as a parent, I don't remember it.

Speaker 30 With Rob's broken arm confirmed, his parents go from doubting their son to doubting themselves. What kind of parents were they? All the agreed-upon roles are called into question.

Speaker 30 How can Laura be the keeper of memories if she failed to keep this memory? And Nate, how can he be the broken arm guy if now there's some other broken arm guy.

Speaker 30 This is the moment when Rob should be delivering his victory speech in its entirety. He should be saying, I told you so, in a sing-songy voice that is sickening to everyone.
He should be gloating.

Speaker 30 But there's something about his family's remorse that feels worse than their disbelief. So instead, Rob tries to diffuse the situation by joking around.

Speaker 44 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 44 Listen, you weren't there for it.

Speaker 44 You probably had to write me a note to get out of Phys Ed, which was great.

Speaker 32 That's probably the extent of your involvement in it.

Speaker 30 To reassure them, Rob falls back on the old Cordry family chestnuts.

Speaker 44 I can think back to seeing little Nate in traction in the hospital, and even today can probably cry over it.

Speaker 42 That's memorable.

Speaker 30 And just like that, things begin to snap back into place.

Speaker 30 Once again, Nate is the broken arm guy.

Speaker 26 And Laura?

Speaker 48 I mean, I'm surprised that I don't remember it because I remember stupid things like

Speaker 48 what color sneakers I had.

Speaker 42 I remember one day we went for dinner or lunch at either Burger King or McDonald's, and Laura found $10 under the table.

Speaker 48 It was Brigham's.

Speaker 32 See? I didn't remember that.

Speaker 33 I just remember that.

Speaker 48 Yeah, I remember where we were sitting.

Speaker 30 And just like that, once again, Laura is the keeper of memories.

Speaker 30 After everyone gets off the phone, I stay on with Rob. The calls left him feeling kind of bad, especially for his mom.
Before we'd all signed off, she apologized yet again.

Speaker 30 Despite Rob's reassurance, she was still feeling guilty and unsettled by your lack of memory.

Speaker 48 Hi, this is Robin.

Speaker 50 I can't take your call right now.

Speaker 30 So Rob and I give her a call to check back in. But she isn't picking up.

Speaker 32 Thanks for calling.

Speaker 44 Hi, Mom. It's Robert William.
My friend Jonathan's here.

Speaker 26 Hi.

Speaker 32 And I love you.

Speaker 26 Oh, I love you. Bye.
Oh, sorry.

Speaker 44 I was talking to my mother that time, Jonathan.

Speaker 30 Eventually, my friend Jackie did read Rob's medical report. And then she texted me.
This is notable for two reasons. One, Jackie never texts me.

Speaker 30 And two, she began the text by saying, I read the report, and truthfully, the most interesting part was the remark that the patient was pleasant. Oh,

Speaker 44 well, that's very nice.

Speaker 30 And she goes on to say, in an ER setting, no one would ever bother writing that.

Speaker 26 Oh, man.

Speaker 45 I remember getting along with the doctor and him saying that

Speaker 44 I was a champ.

Speaker 44 I just

Speaker 30 swallowed your pain.

Speaker 44 I took great pride in being a champ.

Speaker 30 In the ER, Rob was pleasant. In the pickup truck, he didn't want to bother anyone for a painkiller.
A couple weeks later, and he was leading Girl Scouts on a hike.

Speaker 30 And ultimately, maybe that's why no one remembers Rob breaking his arm. Because whether it was a big deal or not, he acted like it wasn't.
Rob liked being a champ, and he still likes being a champ.

Speaker 30 Making people laugh, joking things off.

Speaker 30 So it was no surprise that when I asked the corderies what Rob's role in the family was, they all said the same thing.

Speaker 38 He's the funny guy.

Speaker 37 He was funny.

Speaker 39 He was the funny one. He always started things at the dinner table.

Speaker 30 Rob isn't an insult comic. The joke's always on him.
The joke's always to make everyone else feel better.

Speaker 30 You're pleasant.

Speaker 30 I guess I am. I hope you feel good about that.

Speaker 26 I do. I actually do.

Speaker 41 I hope that

Speaker 44 that's what people say about me.

Speaker 32 He is really funny and caring and sweet, and I love the soft side of him.

Speaker 30 This is Sloane, Rob's little girl who broke her arm, whose picture in a big purple cast set this whole thing off in the first place. He doesn't really have a hard side,

Speaker 51 and he's someone who you can always

Speaker 51 go to, and he's not going to yell at you or tell you like that you did something wrong.

Speaker 30 After Sloane broke her arm, Rob told her the story of how he had also broken his arm on a log, how he was rolling on top of it to make his friends laugh.

Speaker 51 In a way, it was just comforting to know that, like,

Speaker 51 I wasn't the only one who tripped over a tree, because that's embarrassing.

Speaker 30 Rob told me that when no one in his family believed him, not his mother, father, sister, or brother, not even his wife, there was one person who did.

Speaker 30 Yeah,

Speaker 30 I did.

Speaker 51 I just felt like he was telling the truth. I was very frustrated that no one believed him, so I wanted to be nice to him, too.

Speaker 30 In Rob's new family, everyone is still growing into their roles. So for now, Sloane is the bookworm.
Her little sister, Marlow, is the rocker, always playing her electric guitar.

Speaker 30 And Rob, to them, isn't the funny one, or even the famous one.

Speaker 30 He's the soft one, the sweet and caring one.

Speaker 45 Thank you, Jonathan.

Speaker 30 Thank you, Rob.

Speaker 44 And hey,

Speaker 44 John, Johnny.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 45 I love you very much.

Speaker 30 I love you, Rob.

Speaker 26 Yes.

Speaker 32 Okay, goodbye.

Speaker 26 Okay, bye-bye.

Speaker 26 Now that the furniture's returning to its goodwill home

Speaker 26 Now that the last month's rent is scheming with the damage it caused Take this moment to decide

Speaker 26 if we meant it, if we tried

Speaker 26 but felt around for far too much

Speaker 26 from things that accidentally touched

Speaker 30 Heavyweight is hosted and produced by me, Jonathan Goldstein, along with Khalila Holt, Peter Bresnan, and Stevie Lane. The show is edited by Jorge Just with additional editing by Alex Bloomberg.

Speaker 30 Special thanks to Emily Condon, Fia Bennon, B.A. Parker, Matthew Nelson, Sandra Cordry, and Jackie Cohen.
Thanks too to our friends at Maximum Fun, with whom we had the maximum amount of fun.

Speaker 30 Bobby Lord mixed the episode with music by Christine Fellows, Blue Dot Sessions, and with his very own music by he himself, Bobby Lord.

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