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You know, we wanted to kill the clock, but we sprung a big run.

He should have scored instead of letting Juice get the touchdown, but we scored and put the game away.

That they did.

The San Francisco 49ers with Debo Samuel, who you just heard, take care of business in Seattle.

A 36-24 win over the rival Seahawks.

Getting the Niners back on the winning track after last Sunday's deeply disappointing loss to the Cardinals.

Meanwhile, the Seattle Seahawks have gone from 3-0 to 3-3.

Man, Ferris Bueller, he keeps popping up in my brain now.

Change comes at you fast.

You know, blink.

What was the phrase?

James Palmer jumping in for Mark Sessler tonight.

What was the old Ferris Bueller line?

Life moves pretty fast.

If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I know it.

You said it multiple times.

I had it.

Yeah.

It's a top fiver for me.

We watch it the first day of school for my kids every time.

We watch the first day of school.

I love that.

Hey, here's a day about skipping school.

Time to start the school year.

Dan Hans is here.

He the call with James Palmer, Underdog Bros, at it.

Sess dog, by the way.

It's his birthday.

We'll get to that later.

Yeah.

So

he texted me and he was like, hey, FYI, it's my birthday.

And I didn't really know why he said that.

But then I was like, oh, he wants me to say, hey, don't worry about Thursday night, which I was happy to do.

And James Palmer was ready to roll, tapped like

tapped, like ready to go, like a closer, but not a Phillies closer.

That's too soon.

Oh, dude.

That's too soon.

I'm sorry.

I didn't mean that.

Like my closer days.

How about that?

Fireman of the year, two years in a row.

Philadelphia area, best closer in the city.

Let's go.

I like that.

I did not know that.

Anyway, honestly.

The Niners get three touchdown passes from Brock Purdy.

They get a big Debo Samuel play, which has been in short supply this season.

They get a clinching run by Isaac Garendo, who, you know, and I tweeted about this and James, you mentioned it before we started.

I don't know what, because, you know, the nerds, the analytics nerds, at some point got it in somebody's ear that, you know, slide down at the one-yard line because you have a...

0.0004 better chance to win.

Can somebody give Isaac Garondo his flowers in primetime of an NFL game?

He goes down, and to compound things, they let Yušchek the fullback score so he could jump in the stands with his wife.

What is this?

What are we doing?

I think this was a marketing ploy.

This was to get Mrs.

Yu Chek's marketing abilities to just kind of rise the ladder a little bit.

Those custom threads she makes for everybody from Taylor Swift on down, just more FaceTime now on a Thursday night that we do that.

I think, I don't know.

James, I'm looking at the box score.

It's even worse.

Garendo, 10 for 99.

Oh, he goes one more yard.

He doesn't go full selfless.

It's 10 for 101.

One of the greatest stat lines in the history of the sport.

Instead, he settles for 10 for 99 and the 76-yard run that really I thought as we get into the game in a real way now, James, like

The Seahawks had a bad night in so many ways, but they still had a pulse.

They had the timeouts, and they just had to get off the field.

And for the third-string running back

to go through a giant hole in the offensive line and then take it 76 yards to the goal line, I mean, it was just the final nail

of kind of incompetence from the Seattle Seahawks in their building.

And what was really like, if I'm a Seahawks fan, the type of game that makes me wonder what we got cooking for real.

Yeah, I see two things out of this game, Dan.

Like, it's

their fight has been there.

You saw it against the Lions.

You see it in this game.

Like, they, they, they're like, Mike McDonald's doing something right to kind of get that group going.

But there's also the other side of the coin where you're going, there seems to be a lot of mistakes.

Like, there seems to be a lot of pre-snap mistakes.

There seems to be a lot of issues that are going on in terms of sloppiness.

So you're like, okay, I like this part of a young head coach.

They're getting after it.

Maybe that's also part of what happened on that run.

I mean, you know, the linebackers are just crashing down, going going like, we got to stop this quick.

We got no time left.

And bam, they get to the next level and he's gone.

I just think, yeah, like it's, you see both, you see the good and the bad of a young new head coach with what's going on with the Seahawks right now.

Yeah, so giving up the Garendo run was the end of it for this game.

But, you know, I thought in general, yeah, San Francisco was the recipient of Seattle

continuously shooting itself in the foot.

Geno Smith, I know his stats ended up in a good place, but he had two turnovers in this game.

The first one early on, short-circuited the opening drive and led to points for San Francisco on an overthrow, ill-advised pass with pressure coming.

The second was another bad interception that set up the George Kittle touchdown that gave San Francisco a two-score lead.

But then you have other plays.

You have that illegal shift on Kenneth Walker that negated a 70-yard DK Metcalf touchdown that would have made it a one-score game late in the game.

Later in that same drive, Geno misses Kenneth Walker by himself who got lost down the right sideline for what would have been a back pocket TD.

And they did ultimately score on that drive with Lockett, but enough time ticked off the clock where it put them almost in an impossible situation.

So it's just like those type of mistakes are the things that you cannot, you cannot make those mistakes.

And knowing that you had a 49ers team that

did not have Christian McCaffrey that loses Jordan Mason in this game at the end of the second quarter.

I think he played one snap in the third quarter and then exited.

And knowing that you don't want to lose at home to your division rival, and yet you don't bring your A game, I give credit to San Francisco for getting back in the win column, but I just, it was the Seattle performance is eye-opening, and now I kind of have my antenna up with them a little bit.

I got to be honest.

Put the antenna up.

I always am.

Do you want Geno Smith throwing 52 balls?

Like, is that your recipe for success?

I know you have three, I think,

pretty good receivers.

It's a good core.

You don't need 52 balls from Geno Smith and multiple turnovers is not how you're going to win games the way that they want to win games.

Kenneth Walker runs the ball for 32 yards.

It looked like last week.

It was like, okay, here he comes back.

But yeah, that's not a recipe for success and what you're trying to do as an offense at all.

I'd like to focus.

We'll get to it right then.

Like the other quarterback is showing me everything that Geno's not after this game.

And he just keeps building it.

And that's Brock Purdy has been outstanding.

I thought of this and thought about what we were like while I'm watching the game, what we're going to talk about and go, like, when is the day going to be where it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Brock Purdy's like carrying this thing.

Like, when does that day come that people start saying that as opposed to, you know, all of the comments since he became the starter?

that the team is carrying Brock Purdy.

It's a good question.

And if you're actually watching these games, because if you look at the stat line, you're saying, oh, look, Purdy's not having a nice year.

Coincidentally, it's when the offensive player of the year is in Germany getting his Achilles stretched out.

But if you're actually watching the games, yeah,

what'd you say?

He's getting both of them stretched out.

Oh, he's getting them both stretched out.

Yeah,

he's got Achilles issue in both legs.

Oh, that's not good.

But if you've been watching the games, he has played really well all season, I thought.

And one thing that has jumped out to me throughout this year is his pocket maneuverability and how comfortable he is.

He's like the anti Deshaun Watson.

Deshaun Watson is the guy that is always eyes down.

Brock Purdy's always eyes up, and he's fearless for a guy who's not like an imposing player.

He's listed as 6'1220.

That seems generous.

But he does,

he has a, he has a good, he has a great skill set combination that he's able to extend plays and he puts himself in harm's way seemingly, but he's very good about not taking a kill shot and finding a way to protect himself while also extending the play.

It's a rare trait to have, and it's a big part, I think, what makes him a

top 10 quarterback.

And I don't know if I would have said that before this season, but this is the first year where I'm like, even though his numbers aren't as good as they've been in past years after this amount of games, he just feels like he's developing.

And maybe it's taken some of these other players coming off the field for a challenge for him to raise his game on his own.

But I agree with you.

I know it hasn't been an overly smooth start for the Niners, but the quarterback is the last issue they've had.

I completely agree.

And I remember Kyle Yuscuk telling me this.

He was like, because I was like, why is Brock like always seem to be just a little bit faster than everybody thinks he is on the field?

Because that seems to be the perception, right?

Like, he's not blowing anybody away, but somehow he always finds a way to get away in some capacity.

And he was like, I'll tell you why

it looks that way.

He runs with such a mental aspect to running.

And I was like, what?

And when when he says that the super smart Kyle Yuszchek can think of it in this frame of mind, he's like, he's so smart in where he knows he wants to go.

He's, he's already decided where he wants to go three steps before he started going there.

So, like, if that makes sense, his decision making on where he wants to go on the field is very, very quick.

And he has his angles down very, very, very, very quick.

And so he has this ability to just kind of have an appearance to be faster than he actually is because of the mental way he sees the game.

And I think we're seeing him kind of rely on that as some of these things haven't gone entirely all that smooth for the Niners throughout this season so far.

And you're seeing the way he's bought time, the way he's moved in the pocket, the way he's scrambled.

He had a number of them in this game to where he saw something, climbed the pocket, got in the middle.

You're right.

He is the anti-Deshaun Watson.

I was just talking to a DC yesterday.

It was like, I'm watching this Deshaun Watson film.

And it's like, as soon as it breaks down, he gets so anti, like forgets how to play quarterback.

And it's like the exact opposite for Brock Purdy.

And it's been really, really kind of fun to watch.

You want to see the best players in this gameplay, right, Dan?

Like you want to see this talented roster out there.

But what we're seeing from Brock Purdy is like, well, no, no, like I'm going to bias.

This is the way it feels.

I'm going to bias time until these guys can get healthy.

And if we're going to keep going through this, I'm going to try to carry us till the second half of the year when hopefully we have a Christian McCaffrey back.

And the red zone issues, though, are ones that we should kind of keep an eye on with San Francisco.

I know McCaffrey changes that big time, but that is a bit of of an issue with San Francisco that's been going on.

Yeah, and George Kittle's playing at a very high level again and making plays as you saw today.

But another strange, quiet game from Brandon Ayuk.

I just can't figure that guy out this year.

But overall, the Niners are in a good place offensively.

Not a perfect machine, but yes, Purdy's got the thing under control.

Let's take a break here and we'll cover

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So the second half, by the way, this game looked like it was going to be a total blowout, but San Francisco is good at keeping things interesting in the second half.

So four days after they blew it, yeah, four days after they blew a 23-10 halftime lead in losing to Arizona,

the Seattle Seahawks begin a comeback that starts with LaVisca Chennault's 97-yard kickoff return for a touchdown.

After the Niners punted, Geno Smith leads Seattle on a 94-yard drive.

Kenneth Walker goes in.

All of a sudden, it's 23-17 at the end of the third quarter.

You're like, oh, my goodness.

It was around this time when there is a play that happens that I'm just trying to figure out how, I don't know.

So

here's the play.

So the Niners punt it to Seattle.

Seattle returner D.

Williams gets, he gets pushed.

One of his blockers gets pushed into him, which is allowed.

That's legal.

And the ball clearly, upon, you know, if you looked at the Amazon replays, goes off Williams' fingers.

And it is recovered by San Francisco.

and it should have been Niners' ball at the Seattle 18.

However,

officials initially throw a flag on the Niners.

Receiver Chris Conley for punt catch interference.

They pick that up and then there's a challenge because obviously the Niners say, hey, that was a muff.

That was off his finger.

But,

but.

The

well, I'll let Terry McCauley of the prime team, the officiating officiating analyst, explain how this didn't end up with San Francisco having the football.

Yeah, Al, I spoke with Walt Anderson in the Command Center in New York, and what they're telling me, they did not get our enhanced video that we showed the ball touching the finger.

What they had was the raw feed from our cameras, and it was not clear and obvious to them that it touched the finger.

Ow, ow.

So it cost San Francisco a timeout when they rightly challenged a play that did not get overturned.

And Seattle ended up punting on the drive, but it still cost the 9 or 70 yards of field position and maybe a putaway score.

I don't know how that happens, James, but it's obviously very frustrating.

How does that crew in New York not get the same angles and camera shots that the audience gets?

It seems counterintuitive.

Yeah.

I think it's always great when it's always like all of us that are home like, look at it, look at this great angle.

I don't know what TV you have, Dan.

Mine was crushing it up here in the mountains, and it was just like, boing, and you just see the finger move.

Oh, man, this 4K stuff, this HD, let's go.

And you're like, wait till they overturn this.

And like,

what?

And then nobody knew anything until Terry came on.

Like, what was the time period?

It was another 20 minutes later, maybe,

real time, that we find that out.

And

my thought on it is this:

this needs to be fixed.

I'm glad this happened in week six.

And maybe that pushes to make sure that this doesn't happen in any game because this is a massive gaff.

If the game turned out differently, and you're right, they didn't end up punting and something ended up happening adversely.

This is going to be talked about even further, but it needs to be talked about in terms of you can't have this happen.

It's embarrassing for a billion-dollar organization like the NFL.

The amount of money, I mean, I've covered a number of Thursday night games.

There's more people there on a Thursday night than like Sunday night football.

Like, their truck has a truck.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, the broadcast truck has another truck.

There's a backup truck.

There's, there's, like, there's like so many redundancies that I've been told within the Amazon broadcast to make sure that no mistakes happen.

Um, it's astounding the number of people that are there.

But Amazon, yeah, and Amazon didn't make that.

Amazon did have it.

And it's the fact that somehow there's, yeah, there's not going to be not that.

All right, so we got two rule changes in the last

few weeks.

We got to make sure we

somehow, I don't know why we have to tell them this, but New York needs to have the same angles that the TV audience has.

And there's also that after a safety,

let's close that loophole where you could somehow

punt the ball and then the other team gets it back in their own from the point of the punt.

That one was a sloppy one, too.

I just cleaned a couple things up.

So, like, it's funny because I have a couple of really good buddies that are TDs or EVS operators in the NFL.

i wonder if my boy like beizu is sitting there going like check this out for the home broadcast let me zoom in on this i know i want to work my magic no no we're not going to show the officials but everybody at home is going to really see this hit this finger and he's just crushing the evs and just i i like i i don't i'm i'm picturing like the truck everybody in the truck i'm like yeah we got this where's the disconnect you know what i mean like yeah i don't know are they watching like the video remember that movie and is it enemy of the state with gene hackman and will smith is that the name of the movie yeah i remember that one that movie was very good at showing, like, well, just enhance it.

Just enhance it.

Just enhance it.

And then all of a sudden it becomes crystal clear when you enhance it like a million times.

Right.

And that was like 1996.

Yeah.

Apparently we can do it now.

Like 30 years since then.

The level of the camera quality, we should never make these mistakes.

By the way, so,

you know.

Seattle now is on, as we said, a three-game losing streak after starting the season with three wins.

It was a pretty soft opening where you got,

obviously you got got the Broncos rookie QB in his first start on the road.

You got a Patriots team, obviously.

You got the Dolphins.

Was that the game two that got hurt?

And then you have, and then now you've lost to the Lions Giants and 49ers.

So now you're at Falcons, home Bills, home Rams, right, as they're getting more

healthy, and then at Niners.

So gut check time for Seattle.

I have a couple more things before we say goodbye, James.

And thank you again for

pinch hitting.

First of all, where do you stand?

I mentioned the LaVisca Schnault touchdown that made this game interesting again.

I knew it.

I have a kickoff return.

Where do you stand on mascots joining the player

touchdown celebrations?

The players are all celebrating in the back of the end zone after a huge score.

And then the mascot, and I know that's where his area is, but him jumping in there.

And then you could always, I always, I feel it, like the player that he grabs is always kind of like, okay, cool.

Like, do you think the mascot is out of bounds?

Is he overstepping by joining the celebration?

No, I don't.

And I'm going to tell you why.

You're speaking to a former mascot, Dan.

So

I'm always.

Why am I not surprised that I'm always going to be James Palmer being a former mascot is like definitely on my bingo card.

I just have to say.

Was I SpongeBob's Blue Pants at Hooters?

Yes.

Kids Eat Free on Tuesday nights.

Did that lead me into people take kids the hooters?

That's what their thought was.

The place was empty.

It was more or less me messing with a bunch of drunks.

You know, there's like, I don't know if anybody knows this, but like, we're off the reservation here.

Guys,

like, there's a lot of gentlemen that treat their local hooters like a local strip club.

And they are regulars and they are there in the same stool.

And then they buy the girls presents and they do all this stuff.

Yet none of the girls wear their real names on their name tags.

They would never make that mistake with these guys hanging around.

And I would just mess with these guys.

They're all hammered.

I'd steal their car keys as SpongeBob run away with their keys, run away with their cell phone, like just mess with these guys because there's no kids eating there on a kids'

Tuesday night.

No dad's like, honey, I got the kids tonight, and I'm going to save us a buck.

Where are you going?

Hooters.

You watch that.

We're the ad wizards who came up with that one getting the SpongeBob.

And who's protecting SpongeBob's IP that he's connected to this?

I mean, not that this is a hooters.

This is a Nickelodeon single, but it was outstanding.

It was phenomenal.

But that led to

a stint for a year as the backup Philly Fanatic.

So

I have some big time.

A little bit of a mascot.

Never did it.

He is the mascot.

Never did a game.

They didn't trust me with that.

But I did a lot of school closings in Philadelphia.

Those definitely, I attended many of those.

But there's some mascots in this league.

I think that are worthy of it.

I think Blue

in Indianapolis comes to mind.

A lot of times it's the guy in the suit.

Oh my god, did I just say that?

Did I ruin it for everybody?

There's humans inside these days?

You're not supposed to say that.

We'll take that out and post.

Okay.

But if they're personal relationships.

Is that like a magician's code for the mascot?

Yeah, dude.

I was the friend of the, I was a fanatic's best friend.

That's what you call yourself.

But like, some of these guys, I'm not going to lie, they have a relationship with guys on the team.

Like, they're around all the time and they're boys with some of these guys.

If it's a younger guy in the suit, they're friends with these guys.

So it varies by team, I would say.

But if the guy doesn't want the mascot to be around and it's very awkward, that's not good for the look of the organization.

But you have to think about this.

I got a lot on this.

The mascot is essentially the super fan, right?

What fan would not want to be part of the celebration?

Every major fan of every team would want to be like, oh my God, I'm in the end.

But that's not my question, James.

My question is.

Do the players want him there?

Oh, do the players?

Yeah, I don't think they care one way or another.

These guys are so jacked after a touchdown.

I don't think they care who's near them to celebrate with.

Okay.

That's fair.

Okay, good.

So maybe I'm reading into it too much.

Yes, Justin.

Just wanted to check in, Dan.

Was that where you thought that conversation was going to go when you asked that question?

No, but now that I learned that.

I didn't know that was going to get asked either.

Now that I know that, and we have a lot of overseas listeners, James, they might not know who the Philly Fanatic is, but he is the

famous

mascot.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, I think he's at the top of the food chain.

He's the mascot of the Philadelphia

Phillies

Major League Baseball team.

So the fact that you were the understudy,

that's pretty cool, man.

It's pretty cool.

But, you know, better if you actually were

the mascot.

But I guess there's only been two of them.

Yeah, there's only been two.

One guy, Dave Raymond, from 77 to 94.

You're giving away the secrets again.

Listen, we can cut all this.

Magician's code, bro.

You never want to tell that, you know, the how-day-do-dats.

You don't want them to know how it really works, dude.

You got to

finally shout out.

Let's head to the kicker club before we sign off.

Let's head to the kicker club because

I got some ice packs ready.

I got a bottle of champagne

and some ice packs.

And

I got some

friends, companions that can sit with him.

I don't know where they got this Michael Wright guy

filling in for Jake Moody.

Okay.

The man, he looks like an accountant.

He's called him Michael Wright, too.

His name's Matthew Wright.

He also...

Oh, it's Michael Wright?

Matthew Wright?

Mattie Wright.

Mattie Wright, yeah.

Matty Wright.

You know, this guy, and to his credit, he hits three field goals,

and good for him.

But he's like reaching the 15-yard line with some of the kickoffs.

I'm like, wow.

I mean, there was nobody else available.

But that's not my point.

He did his job.

But to get absolutely pile-driven on the last kickoff of the game and to have this like great night and then end going to the locker room early because you tried to make an aggressive tackle in garbage time.

It's like, Maddie,

come take a seat in one of our plush boots.

Have a drink.

Ice up, bro.

100%.

Maddie, you just got the job.

Don't lose it.

Like, you've been sitting at home on the couch.

He looked, you know what he looked?

He looked fed up.

He looked like a guy that just probably his shoulder exploded out of the socket.

And it's like...

They were working on him on the sideline.

I mean,

we'll see a training camp when we need a body next August.

It's like, Maddie, what are we doing, bro?

I thought they zoomed in on Kyle Shanahan's face.

And I didn't want to read lips, but I thought he was almost like, Do we need another kicker?

Like, into the headset, Maddie.

Do we need another kicker?

By the way, Moody has a high ankle sprain.

Like, you know, you could have melted

out.

He's not coming back anytime soon.

Like, Maddie, what are we doing, bro?

Yeah.

What are we doing?

I hope you're okay.

But yeah, drinks are on us at the kicker club.

All right.

I think that about covers it.

I think Maddie and his brother Michael should have made a different decision on that kickoff.

I know.

Yeah, that's bad job by me.

Matthew Wright.

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Anything else, Justin?

Yeah, you mentioned something off the top about it being Mark's birthday, and we'll come back to that later.

And then we haven't gone to that later.

So I was just wondering if you're going to get that.

Good job.

You guys seem really tired.

Good producing.

Yes.

Matthew Sessler.

No, Mark Sessler.

I love that man.

And I'm very happy.

I'm very happy you got to spend the night with James here and and do our recap.

I'm very happy to be able to give Mark that.

It's like that when you think you have work and then you find out you don't, and then the whole night opens up.

Being able to give Mark that tonight, like that was a birthday gift.

But we love Mark Sessler.

He is a special person and a good man.

Very much so.

And a good friend.

And

I've mentioned I made a wrestling

analogy on the Thursday show.

But there is a wrestling saying that if you could go, you know, through your whole career and go through that career and end it with one real friend, one true friend, you've been successful.

For me, that's the sess dog.

He's a ride or die guy, and I hope he's having a great night.

Another Hollywood night for Mark Sessler.

So happy birthday, buddy.

However old you are.

Happy birthday.

Which is

getting up there.

But we're just, you know, we might be getting to the point where we have to fudge it for demographic reasons, Justin.

I was going to ask the reason why.

But I see it.

Because Mark is an ageless vampire, so he doesn't actually have

what his age is.

I see that.

He's going to be like John Sterling or name the celebrity where certain celebrities, it's like date of birth, and

it's like a year, but then it's approximate.

There's like in captions and parentheticals, like a prox.

Like, that's what we're going to go for for Mark.

I think Mark deserves that because I've always wanted that.

Whenever a celebrity dies, I always go to Wikipedia and I want to see the select few that it's like 1946 or 1947.

I'm like, they don't know.

This guy's awesome.

Let's do this, Justin.

For our PR materials, because we want to be getting that demographic for advertising, put Mark

a prox 1986

for a date of birth.

I think that's pretty.

And maybe people won't ask any questions.

Yeah.

Like around this kid.

James, thank you very much for your help.

No problem, guys.

No problem.

I'm stoked.

Can I say I'm going to go ahead and get a plug in James?

I'll get a plug in.

It's not a plug.

I'm going to a game this weekend.

I go to a game every weekend.

I'm pretty stoked to go to this one.

I'm going to Commander's Ravens this weekend.

That's the game.

That's the game to be at.

It's the game.

Yeah.

So I'm pretty pumped to go to that one.

So

are you going there in a reporting capacity?

Like, what are you doing there?

What's Palmer doing there?

No, I just like hang out.

Yeah, I just like, I don't report on anything.

No, we go.

We gather information pre-game.

We gather information post-game.

Is this Royal Wii?

What is this?

Are you with a crew or is it just Palmer Solo?

It is the Royal Wii.

It is Palmer Solo.

It is, what can James gather?

Like, last week it was, hey, a lot of Devontae stuff going on.

Let's go do Raiders Broncos.

And we were there to witness, you know, Bo versus Sean on the sideline, Ferris Bueller himself, take this show full circle, right back to the start.

So, yeah, picky game.

All right, good.

So

get some good scoopage at that game and enjoy yourself.

And everybody, thank you for listening.

As always, until next time, do what you must.

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