MNF Recap: Seahawks-Lions & Titans-Dolphins

Speaker 1 Here's the issue, Mark.

Speaker 2 You and I are aging, and

Speaker 4 it's hard to stop that.

Speaker 5 Nope. It's problematic.

Speaker 6 So we can't do the things like we used to do, which is like, you know, stay up late at the bar, then go get a burrito, and then wake up four hours later, and everything's fine.

Speaker 2 We need something. How about this, Mark?

Speaker 10 How about what I've been using?

Speaker 2 Terra Origin? Because adulthood, it's hitting hard.

Speaker 1 We're dealing with it. Middle-aged guys,

Speaker 2 my knees hurt. I hurt my wrist the other day.

Speaker 2 I punched a door.

Speaker 12 Shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 2 And now my wrist hurts. This is stuff that wasn't happening when I was young.

Speaker 8 So this is where Terra Origin comes in.

Speaker 6 Are you curious why I punched the door?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was going to say that's

Speaker 5 a different conversation. But if you've got Terra Origin, I'm sure that you're going to be able to get your way out of that mess.

Speaker 13 Aaron Judge grounded into a double play.

Speaker 8 Anyway, Terra Origin makes science-backed, clean supplements designed to help men perform better, recover faster, and feel good every single day.

Speaker 15 They make smart no BS supplements that actually help you feel human again.

Speaker 2 And that's why

Speaker 16 this is the product that you need.

Speaker 2 The best part about Terra Origin, no fluff, no fads, just premium, transparent formulas you can trust.

Speaker 18 It's like upgrading your daily routine from survive to thrive.

Speaker 20 So whether you're lifting, leading, grinding, or parenting, Terra Origin helps you show up at your best.

Speaker 2 Visit terraorigin.com and use the code PODCAST for 30% off your first order and free shipping. That's T-E-R-R-A-O-R-I-G-I-N.com.

Speaker 1 Terra Origin.

Speaker 14 Feel better from the inside out.

Speaker 21 Guys, by now, you've heard me talk about Collars Co., makers of the dress collar polo. They've already sold over a million of these amazing shirts.

Speaker 21 Well, Collars and Co just came out with the new Maverick Performance Blazer. This blazer is sharp and wrinkle-resistant, so you can travel anywhere with it.

Speaker 21 Just throw it in your bag and it will remain wrinkle-free. It even comes with security zip pockets, a sunglasses loop, and an optional pocket square.

Speaker 21 So visit collarsandco.com and use code Tiki for 20% off at collarsandco.com.

Speaker 21 18 for 18 for you. How does that mean?

Speaker 5 You're Sanders?

Speaker 22 There you go. Yeah, it's good when the ball doesn't hit the ground.
It was a good day.

Speaker 23 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 24 The Detroit Tigers are in the playoffs and Jared Goff just pitched a perfect game.

Speaker 2 Life is good in the Motor City.

Speaker 25 Welcome to Heed the Call with Dan Hansis and Mark Sessler after a Monday night double header, our second in a row.

Speaker 30 And yes, the headline coming out of this slate of games is

Speaker 32 the Tennessee Titans, really one of the great battles I've ever seen. That was not victorious, and they have checked the box and gotten their first dub, put up a 30 burger.

Speaker 35 No, we'll get to that.

Speaker 25 The story, of course, is a really fun shootout at Ford Field where, yes, Jared Goff, absolutely perfect.

Speaker 38 18 for 18 in that game and taking care of business against the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 8 42-29, the final score.

Speaker 18 That's 18 for 18, 292 yards, two touchdowns,

Speaker 29 a

Speaker 3 16.2 average on the throws.

Speaker 40 And yes, Mark, to boot, a touchdown reception.

Speaker 7 I would say that was a very nice Monday night for Mr. Goff.

Speaker 5 Checked all the boxes.

Speaker 5 I'll never forget. We were in London during one of these Seahawks Lions,

Speaker 5 you know, high-scoring shootouts. They have scored Seattle on Detroit in the last three games coming into this, 51 points, 48, and 37.

Speaker 5 It felt like that was not going to be the case tonight, but then suddenly was feeling like the case. And so it was like you needed Detroit,

Speaker 5 you know, on the, I remember on Thursday we talked about the fact that like, I think it it was Michael said look out for Geno Smith because in dome environments Geno Smith is pretty unstoppable but that's been true of Jared Goff as well like his splits for indoor football are pretty incredible and we saw that tonight but there was this one drive I just want to point out where I thought like man who are the Detroit Lions like they start off strong and they're getting they're starting to get run up on they had nine penalties a week ago 12 tonight and they are they starting to to lose their foundation a little bit in terms of these close games like this?

Speaker 5 And they were up 35 to 27.

Speaker 5 And I thought it was a drive where Jared Goff is, you know, he is perfect, but then all the stars around him are playing the way that you want Detroit's roster building process to go. Like

Speaker 5 Jameer Gibbs has a huge blast up the gut. Sam Laporta, a 30-yard catch.

Speaker 5 Gibbs had another run. And then Amon St.
Brown had a wonderful touchdown catch. And that came after the throw.
He had to go. It's like everyone's kind of stepping up and doing their part on offense.

Speaker 5 They've got a couple questions on defense, but I really thought tonight was a showcase of like we've kind of put this entire attack together, and they all play a part, and we need them all at different parts in the game.

Speaker 5 And when you get a night like this from Jared Goff, they're basically just unstoppable in terms of stopping them from scoring.

Speaker 41 Yeah, I think...

Speaker 17 It's good that you point that out, that this was not a flawless performance by any means.

Speaker 42 No. Way too many penalties.

Speaker 17 The defense got absolutely shredded.

Speaker 43 Aaron Glenn is going to be

Speaker 42 going through this game tape and not getting a lot of sleep because Geno Smith did what he wanted.

Speaker 46 Kenneth Walker and the run game for Seattle did what it wanted for large chunks of this game, but they did ultimately find a way.

Speaker 17 And it was because the offense, every time Seattle got close,

Speaker 30 for the most part, the Lions' offense would say, all right, just chill out. We're going to take control of this game again.

Speaker 7 You never actually felt maybe in one instance in this game in the second half, and I'll get to it in a minute, where the game was ever in any danger for the Lions, despite it being, you know, between one and two scores for much of the evening.

Speaker 42 And, you know, the Jared Goff side of it, again, because that's a really special performance in that game.

Speaker 32 Joe Buck, a couple things.

Speaker 18 I'm totally confused how 18 for 18. Let me just look at the numbers.

Speaker 10 I actually just like looking at the box score. It's just a cool box score to look at.

Speaker 4 The entire Detroit passing box score is awesome because I mentioned Goff had a touchdown reception on Amon Ross St.

Speaker 7 Brown pass in the red zone.

Speaker 30 So they combined 19 for 19, 273, three touchdowns.

Speaker 39 Perfect pass rating. Somehow Jared Goff doesn't have a perfect passer rating.

Speaker 18 And I don't understand how that works.

Speaker 48 I guess he didn't throw enough passes.

Speaker 24 And then Joe Buck said at the end of the telecast that this would have been an NFL record for perfect passing, but you have to have a minimum of 20 attempts

Speaker 17 to qualify for having a perfect game in terms of completions.

Speaker 36 All seems totally made up, but then again, a passer rating of 158.3, that was what was decided arbitrarily as the perfect number.

Speaker 16 Also, stupid.

Speaker 4 All beside the point.

Speaker 52 The point being that Jared Goff was awesome, and this game is just another reminder that when Goff is protected and you're playing at Ford Field and there are 70,000 insane Detroiters,

Speaker 57 Detroiters,

Speaker 38 chanting your name.

Speaker 51 And the other defense is having an off night, and they're out of sorts.

Speaker 7 He could put together games like this.

Speaker 6 I remember, Mark, years ago,

Speaker 15 I know

Speaker 42 it was at the old Coliseum when he was with the Rams.

Speaker 52 It was a Thursday night game, I think, against the Vikings.

Speaker 11 Wes was with us.

Speaker 7 And Goff had another one of these games where he was getting protected.

Speaker 20 He had the home team behind him, all the similar setup to here, and he was just absolutely shredding the Vikings in that game and his stats at the end of the game.

Speaker 42 Just absurd.

Speaker 17 The fact that that's in him, it's just good to remember that this is what he's capable of when he does have those not-so-hot golf nights because he's not a perfect quarterback, but his ceiling is as high as almost any quarterback in the league, and that's that's pretty crazy.

Speaker 35 It really is.

Speaker 5 There are a lot of pieces around him. Like, I think we've noticed that right away with Detroit.

Speaker 5 It's like their line is for the most, they've got a couple injuries on their line, but like their line is in place. And to have like Jameson Williams,

Speaker 5 another guy that had a huge game-changing moment tonight, to have him emerge the way he has and have the ground game just kind of heat up at times.

Speaker 5 It's kind of like it can go on a drive or two where it just beats up a defense. And I'm with you.
I think you said that it was kind of never really in question.

Speaker 5 It got kind of close, but that's when I do think also with the Lions, you get certain players on their defense.

Speaker 5 Like when Jack Campbell knocked out the Metcalf, DK Metcalf fumble, which was massive early in the game.

Speaker 5 And Carlton Davis, I thought, who tonight was used kind of the way on DK Metcalf that like Charvarius Ward of the Niners has been and especially I can think of a Thursday night game a couple years ago where it's just sort of a ferocious battle where Carlton Davis I thought stepped up big time tonight and you get these other parts of the Lions that were not part of the team when Seattle came in in these three previous matchups and beat them up with a with a waterfall of points.

Speaker 5 I think tonight was it's like our offense has improved. We're a bit hard to deal with.
We're overwhelming. We have too many parts on offense.

Speaker 5 We can beat you in a lot of different ways with the deep ball, with the ground game, with Sam Lepardo, with Goff playing the kind of game he played.

Speaker 5 But then we're going to have our defense take the ball away once or twice too. And that is just, that's the recipe to get to the NFC title game.

Speaker 5 Like, if you get this version of the Lions, you know, and it's like, it's early, but it's like golf like this makes the Lions pretty unbeatable.

Speaker 5 They're pretty unbeatable if you get everyone healthy and they're doing what they did tonight.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and that there were multiple points in this game where I said that I don't think the Lions or the people in that building were ever really sweating this game.

Speaker 7 There were multiple points in this game where I thought, oh, now the game's over.

Speaker 30 And the 70-yard touchdown got to Jameson Williams.

Speaker 3 Williams, again, showcasing how he is having finally his breakout year, and he is just adding him to this offense.

Speaker 17 That's when it can start to feel a little unfair.

Speaker 36 He goes on the first play from scrimmage on that possession, 70 yards, pay dart.

Speaker 17 It's 35-20.

Speaker 10 The Seahawks, and again, credit and, you know, Seattle fans, fans, because I know they're on edge right now.

Speaker 23 They're just like, oh, you're not only talking about the Lions.

Speaker 11 First of all, relax.

Speaker 5 We will talk about Seattle.

Speaker 52 We're going to talk.

Speaker 48 And I'm going to tell you that

Speaker 32 the reason this game was compelling at all and wasn't a grizzly blowout is because Geno Smith played nearly as well as Jared Goff.

Speaker 7 And in some ways, maybe just as well, even if the numbers aren't as perfect at the end of the day, he kept on coming back.

Speaker 48 And

Speaker 48 they had everything in that offense humming.

Speaker 36 On a day where I didn't think the officials were necessarily overly fair in terms of breaking it down. There were two huge plays in this game.

Speaker 17 One, the two-point conversion to Metcalf, where they missed the call,

Speaker 37 and they called a DPI, giving the Seattle Seahawks another chance.

Speaker 17 They didn't get the two-point conversion,

Speaker 48 and this is kind of on Mike McDonald, too, for not challenging it.

Speaker 25 We had that play.

Speaker 30 And then on the last possession or the second-to-last possession, a clear DPI on DK Metcalf in the end zone that would have given them first and goal at the one on a possession that ultimately was fruitless.

Speaker 30 These were huge mistakes, I thought, by the officials

Speaker 64 that helped out the home team.

Speaker 42 But the point I was saying is that after they have that touchdown,

Speaker 13 Seattle to once again get it to 35-27.

Speaker 30 It's a one-score game, and they force a punt.

Speaker 7 Finally, they get off the field, and they get the ball back, Seattle, and they start marching, and they cross midfield.

Speaker 33 And that's when I was watching the game with my dad, who's in town,

Speaker 64 and they cross midfield, and that the big play of the game was a fourth and three conversion to jackson smith and jigba that gets waived off because of a uh offensive pass interference call on tyler lockett one of those calls where the it's clearly a pick play but they didn't do a good enough job locket in this case of making it look like he was running a route and that was to me the game in a lot of ways that once you that that failed uh it was over uh for Seattle.

Speaker 16 So they put up a good effort. Listen, it's just their first loss of the season.

Speaker 46 I think Seattle's had had a very nice start to things.

Speaker 13 And as someone who watched Geno Smith come into the league, who watched him walk out onto that draft stage at Radio City Music Hall in that white sweater, pissed off that he wasn't picked in the first round, to see his journey from where he was with the Jets, which was an immature guy, got his jaw broken over a plane ticket, was up and down behind the scenes with the Jets, to where he is now, Mark, which is

Speaker 32 a very, very polished, great pocket passer, and also a guy who can move move with his legs.

Speaker 14 He's a really good quarterback, and I have to be honest, like better than I gave him credit for, and he's showing it this year.

Speaker 5 Well, it's the year of quarterbacks showing us that they aren't who we thought we were for 80% of their career, and that we give up on these guys too early.

Speaker 5 We already knew that about Geno, like, literally two years ago, but the fact is, that could have felt like a flash in the pan.

Speaker 5 Like, I think last year was like, is he going to be the guy he was in 2022?

Speaker 5 I thought tonight was the best game he's ever played. I mean, I really think it was.
And I think he fits in this offense really well.

Speaker 5 This is the second game where Seattle, they had 18 yards rushing at half. And so it's like, that's a big part of what they want to be.
And that happened against the Broncos as well.

Speaker 5 And they finished with 146 against the Broncos. They certainly came around tonight, were able to run the ball really well.

Speaker 5 And I think also under Mike McDonald, this team, like other teams are just not built in the way. And it kind of reminds reminds me of the Lions a little bit and how they are very resilient.

Speaker 5 I kind of just noted their resilience, like to come back over and over in this. But this was a team that came in with like five of their most important defenders missing.

Speaker 5 Like Newoso, Baker, Mafe, like Byron Murphy, Leonard Williams. These guys were like inactive.
They're not on the field. And so that's a large reason why Detroit was able to do what it did.

Speaker 5 But Seattle didn't play that way. We've seen teams look like they're floating around in a mental abyss abyss already in this season.
You see teams that seem to not respond to their coaching.

Speaker 5 I don't think that's true of Seattle. And I thought Geno is a big part of it.
And like they are, I didn't pick them for the playoffs. That was my first mistake.

Speaker 5 I really think they are a playoff type team, especially in a bit of a weakened NFC West.

Speaker 46 Goff was especially deadly in play action in this game where he was 12 for 12 for 229 yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 45 And that, again, if they could play to the script, they want to play at the flow they want to play at.

Speaker 44 They are almost impossible to stop.

Speaker 32 So great performance.

Speaker 25 That also was a, if we're talking about injuries, I'll mention that the Lions were missing Frank Ragnow in this game.

Speaker 9 They moved some chairs along that line and really did a nice job protecting the quarterback.

Speaker 24 Goff, obviously, is not the most nimble quarterback.

Speaker 46 He's not known for his ability to extend plays.

Speaker 9 He needs that protection, And that Detroit offensive line did it again.

Speaker 33 My last thought on this game, Mark, and then I'll throw it to you if you have something before we get into the other Monday game.

Speaker 62 Is

Speaker 4 you said at the top there that it was a perfect game.

Speaker 7 It was 18 for 18.

Speaker 51 And I actually was at, I was at a perfect game.

Speaker 62 It was David Cohn, July 18th, 1999 at Old Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 44 And that feeling, whether you're at the stadium or you're watching at home, when you're getting closer to the perfect game

Speaker 17 and even the routine, it's a ground ball to short, everyone's holding their breath because to pull it off, the fielders have to be perfect too.

Speaker 20 And that's what I was thinking when I was like really weirdly invested in this perfect game.

Speaker 3 And, you know, when he would put the throw on the money every time, well, now Sam Laporte has got to catch the ball.

Speaker 3 And then concluding in a really nice climax to it all, Amon Ross St.

Speaker 16 Brown, the pass is a little bit high.

Speaker 31 St.

Speaker 7 Brown's wide open. He gets the high points and then gets the toes down.

Speaker 24 They showed on replay.

Speaker 31 And I let out a big exhale like I'm a Lions fan.

Speaker 46 But I think a little, I think we're all, and I understand if you're listening to the show and you're an NFC North fan that has no connection to Detroit, we're all kind of Lions fans because they're just fun to watch.

Speaker 24 And all these primetime games kind of reinforce that.

Speaker 5 Well, I think Goff is a big reason for that. Like, it kind of mattered to me when they had the draft in Detroit.

Speaker 5 And you've got the public, like the civilians, the working men and women of Detroit, like screaming his name. Like, and it's a person that was traded there as, you know, wasted goods at that point.

Speaker 5 And it's another quarterback that's like, you thought my career was over.

Speaker 5 And I was, you know, I used to call him like a glass of like milk because he seemed very vanilla to me and sort of not the guy I'd want running my team. But look what he's done here.

Speaker 5 And it's like, I think sports has this power to kind of reshape everything we think. And it's kind of interesting what happens because Detroit goes into a buy now.

Speaker 5 Seattle plays three games in the next 11 days. So that, I don't like that.
I hate the way they, I think the Jets got ran into that situation too.

Speaker 5 It's like, I don't like that for these teams, but that's part of the drill. I will tell you one thing.

Speaker 5 I was at a Broncos, when I lived in Denver, I was at a Broncos Raiders game, and it was 2002, the year that Rich Gannon took the Raiders to the Super Bowl under Gruden.

Speaker 5 And I had bought as a wedding gift for a friend and his wife. You know, he was married, so that's why it was a wedding gift.
And like, sure, makes sense. Right, that makes sense.

Speaker 5 So we were like, we were low in the end zone, and Gannon completed, I think, like, he, I believe, he broke, like, an NFL record at the time, like, 18 straight completions.

Speaker 5 It might have been like a Vinny Testa Verde record. Um, but I couldn't, I had no idea any of that happened.
Jerry Rice caught, like, two touchdown passes in that game or something like that.

Speaker 5 But, like, I had no idea that any of that happened because of where we were sitting.

Speaker 5 So, I didn't have the same majestical feel about the game that you did because, you know, there was no one telling you, in football, no one's telling you that's happening over the loudspeaker.

Speaker 5 It's not a no-hitter.

Speaker 23 Especially back then.

Speaker 22 Whenever that happened, back then in 1982 or whatever it was.

Speaker 33 Please.

Speaker 5 I was drinking like illegal beers. Who knows what was happening?

Speaker 10 And just one more point before we hit the break.

Speaker 24 Yes, the Detroit Tigers are in the playoffs.

Speaker 44 They're playing the hated Astros, and I love it.

Speaker 24 Now the Lions are on by, so the Fans put all their focus on this Tigers team.

Speaker 7 That's a very lovable team themselves.

Speaker 8 So good times in the motor city.

Speaker 32 And on the subject of baseball, Pete Rose died today,

Speaker 44 83 years old, one of the more complicated figures ever in baseball.

Speaker 12 I learned about it because I got a text from Nick Wesling, Chris's brother.

Speaker 10 And Nick and I, he's a huge baseball fan,

Speaker 11 as was Chris.

Speaker 39 And Pete Rose, I just brought him up on the show recently.

Speaker 5 You just mentioned him.

Speaker 12 I think last week I mentioned, because we were having some fun about Arthur Blank putting himself into the ring of honor for the Falcons, which is still really funny.

Speaker 27 And I said, you know,

Speaker 61 certain people you want to make sure you get them into the Hall of Fame while they're alive because they,

Speaker 46 despite their transgressions, like what they accomplished should be recognized and they should be able to enjoy it.

Speaker 49 That sucks.

Speaker 32 That's sad.

Speaker 48 But on the other side, anything that reminds me of Chris is good.

Speaker 24 And Pete Rose always reminds me of Wes, a guy that also, like Wes, grew up on the west side of Cincinnati.

Speaker 44 And

Speaker 22 we played softball together, obviously.

Speaker 29 And Chris always wore number 14 in honor of Pete Rose, his boyhood guy that he just looked up to,

Speaker 15 a local boy, made good, imperfect as he was.

Speaker 46 So anyway.

Speaker 12 I won't talk about baseball anymore, but I really did,

Speaker 27 you know.

Speaker 24 Rose, I just watched a documentary on him, too.

Speaker 12 And like the whole time I'm watching the documentary, especially when they're talking about his, you know, growing up, where he did,

Speaker 32 just makes me think of Chris. So I wish I could talk with Wes tonight about Pete Rose and his complicated legacy because he's a fascinating figure.

Speaker 46 And I know Chris would have had a lot of takes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like we're of the age where like Pete Rose, you know, you'd watch like this week in baseball. Like there wasn't a lot of stuff to watch back then.

Speaker 5 And like Pete Rose was front and center of the whole thing.

Speaker 5 And the idea that it's Paul Giamatti, the actor's father, Bart Giamatti, who was then the commissioner of baseball, that's one of the major reasons that Pete Rose, and I look at it, I'm not saying Pete Rose was a pure person.

Speaker 5 We all get it. It was complex, but we like complex people.

Speaker 27 Maybe a lot of people don't even know the backstory.

Speaker 46 This is the all-time hits leader in Major League Baseball who was caught gambling while he was the manager post-playing career of the Cincinnati Reds, and he was banished from the game.

Speaker 10 That's the backstory with that.

Speaker 58 Anyway.

Speaker 58 Well, yeah.

Speaker 24 And poor Bart Giamatti, he died shortly after that ruling.

Speaker 46 The stress of it apparently was a factor, some people think.

Speaker 67 Complicated, complicated situation. Anyway, Miss Young.

Speaker 5 It's so easy to be American, I think is what the lesson is here.

Speaker 35 Is it?

Speaker 34 That's a just

Speaker 35 for the America podcast.

Speaker 5 I don't think that at all.

Speaker 5 I could not have been less serious about that part of it, but yeah.

Speaker 44 Let's take a break, and when we get back, we hit Titans Dolphins.

Speaker 71 This episode of Heed the Call with Dan Hansis and Mark Sessler is brought to you by BetterHelp.

Speaker 13 Is there a new skill you've been wanting to learn?

Speaker 27 Maybe speaking another language or how to play an instrument, but you can't find the motivation?

Speaker 71 Lost that curiosity?

Speaker 1 If this sounds like you, therapy might be the answer you're looking for. Therapy can empower you to be the best version of yourself.

Speaker 14 It can help you learn positive coping skills, how to set boundaries, and help you find that motivation you've been lacking.

Speaker 71 So if you're thinking of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try.

Speaker 2 BetterHelp is the world's largest provider of therapy services online.

Speaker 14 With over 30,000 licensed, trained, experienced, and accredited psychologists, it's designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule.

Speaker 71 You don't even have to leave the comfort of your home.

Speaker 20 To get started, simply fill out the short questionnaire and you'll be matched with a licensed therapist.

Speaker 14 Plus, you can switch therapists at any time for no additional charge. Rediscover your curiosity with BetterHelp.

Speaker 2 Visit betterhelp.com/slash HTC today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelphelp.com/slash HTC.

Speaker 5 We are nearly a quarter of the way through the football season, and before you know it, February will be here, and then that's it.

Speaker 23 No more football.

Speaker 5 So, why not maximize these next few months and get the most out of your football viewing experience by playing all season long on Underdog?

Speaker 5 I've been playing and honestly, mostly winning on Underdog for the last few weeks, especially with like the Thursday night games that sometimes get a little boring.

Speaker 5 But putting a pick'em entry together really keeps my interest to the final whistle. Underdog is super easy to play, and it's even easier to get started.

Speaker 5 Just head over to Underdog's sleek and simple mobile app or online at underdogfantasy.com. Sign up with the promo code HTC.
That's us.

Speaker 5 And Underdog will give you a free pick to use on your first cash pick'em entry plus up to $1,000 in bonus cash when you deposit.

Speaker 5 That's Underdog Fantasy, promo code HTC to claim your new customer special of a free pick and your deposit offer for our U.S. audience only.

Speaker 36 All right, we are back.

Speaker 61 Before we get into Dolphins Titans and the joyride of that game,

Speaker 59 just just

Speaker 67 a special announcement, big announcement.

Speaker 72 Give me that announcement, horn, gravedigger.

Speaker 8 As many of you know, patreon.com slash heat thecall, your home for all fun HTC content not connected with the show that we do five times a week here.

Speaker 41 And a big premiere this week on Monday.

Speaker 8 It's already up right now, Rolling Thunder with Mark Sessler and Jason Zumwalt.

Speaker 46 Mark, is there anything you want to share about the premiere or your feelings about the program so far?

Speaker 64 Go ahead, buddy.

Speaker 5 Well, I don't know how many episodes of throwback that you've done.

Speaker 5 I think we've got a long way to go to catch up with your podcast that you do with Bob, but I'm doing this with Jason Zumwalt, who is very passionate about the project.

Speaker 5 And we have decided to create a podcast that goes down many different avenues. Our favorite Bizarro writers,

Speaker 5 very strange films. In this case, we're going to cover a film that basically overtook society back in 1999.
So I'll tease it that way.

Speaker 5 Should I say?

Speaker 23 Hell yeah. It's already up.

Speaker 5 It is a show about, everyone always teases us about like, oh, Star Wars.

Speaker 5 It is about the Phantom Menace because I think it's a very divisive, divisive film that Jason and I don't feel the same way about.

Speaker 5 And no, I mean, many of my guy friends do not feel the same way that I feel about it. I'm pretty more negative on it and so I think we we unpacked it we explored it this is gonna be a real test mark

Speaker 1 you know how it's like why a test

Speaker 61 it's like your wife like hey why don't you ever listen to

Speaker 33 my podcast my football podcast and like she's like well I don't know I just don't know anything about it doesn't really you know it's not for me Now I feel that way about this.

Speaker 8 However, I really want to support the Patreon and support you and Jason.

Speaker 24 So I'm going to listen to this Star Wars podcast.

Speaker 10 This is outrageous, but Dan's about to listen to a Star Wars podcast.

Speaker 27 That's how much I believe that Rolling Thunder will deliver on the goods.

Speaker 5 I mean, if it took a decade plus of

Speaker 5 you doing what you do on this topic and me doing what I do, and it got to this point,

Speaker 5 I've already scored a major victory. I think I actually would say one last thing.
I think you're wrong. And I don't mean that in a confrontational way.

Speaker 5 I think that everyone, it's kind of like people might not have liked Titanic, but everyone saw Titanic.

Speaker 5 and you're one of the few people that i know that maybe you saw this movie but like most people saw this movie and either hated it um or were like young enough to think that it kind of snowed them over so i think it's a bit of a ruse job by lucas and that's how i feel but i think like everyone's gonna have an opinion about it yeah save it for rolling thunder i will no more see it's like yeah and i did that too yeah

Speaker 64 because it's it's a good topic because i went to the movie theater to see that goddamn movie and i could, I was

Speaker 46 scratching at the walls trying to get out after about 25 minutes of CGI terror.

Speaker 5 It is appalling. It is appalling.
And I think if you listened, you'd realize, Mark, after all these years, does not disagree with your general approach to this movie.

Speaker 24 Hey man, live long and prosper.

Speaker 66 I'm not here to give you any

Speaker 5 incorrect channel, but yes. Is this it?

Speaker 48 Live long and prosper.

Speaker 61 All right. Let's get into the other game.

Speaker 9 The other game.

Speaker 30 The Wheel of Fortune game.

Speaker 10 I remember this song.

Speaker 46 Let's get this one into the Sunday flagship rotation.

Speaker 61 Here we go. Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 41 They needed it. They needed it bad.

Speaker 12 They entered action on Monday night 0-3.

Speaker 45 But

Speaker 41 Miami Dolphins are the perfect opponent for any team, winless or otherwise, because without Tuatunga Vailoa, they have been exposed.

Speaker 12 And the Titans proved it again in a 31-12 win in Miami.

Speaker 41 Let's get to it.

Speaker 46 Let's bring in Gravedigger on this one.

Speaker 63 This was a game that started on an almost, I don't want to say comical, but I think it is something, Justin, because I don't want to skew all negative because your team got a win.

Speaker 61 But Will Levis has become almost like the

Speaker 51 Michael Scott type figure now in terms of like football Twitter, where he's just kind of unintentionally funny, and we're all waiting for the next moment where everybody's kind of cringing and laughing.

Speaker 57 And it kind of happened again in this game where he throws the early interception and then he injures his shoulder.

Speaker 40 And then there's just a lot of sideline histrionics where the telecast is doing a bunch of lip reading first on the interception where they're like, I didn't even see that guy or whatever.

Speaker 6 I don't know if he actually talks like Keanu Reeves, but and then after

Speaker 36 he dives and hurts the shoulder, you see him mouth, I think I hurt my shoulder.

Speaker 38 And he ends the game on the bench, so it's Mason Rudolph playing and getting the victory despite underwhelming production.

Speaker 66 Your thoughts on the Levis of it all and the Titans finally getting in the win column.

Speaker 74 I have come to enjoy the weekly Levis meme. I think that's what it is.
It's like he is the most memeable quarterback in football right now, which is fun. Like, I want to embrace that.

Speaker 74 And if you want to call the Titans the Tightoons because, like, they are somewhat of a laughing stock, or at least their quarterback is a laughing stock, I'm kind of okay with it.

Speaker 34 All right, well, let's slow down a couple. A couple of things.

Speaker 37 First of all, I don't think they're a laughing stock or he's a laughing stock because that's, you know, I don't love that idea, but there is something, there's an entertainment value to his foibles that has really started to take on a life of its own.

Speaker 40 And I'll just say, I don't know if I totally believe you, Justin, because before the season started, you were talking him up big as a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 61 To get to this point

Speaker 56 is pretty startling after four weeks, but I don't want to skew negative.

Speaker 40 I just want to say that's a part of the conversation because that's where people were like zoned in at the beginning of this game, the Levis side of things.

Speaker 74 Yes.

Speaker 74 And it was, I mean, Levis needed to come into this game and play a very clean game to satisfy what people have been wanting to see since the beginning of the season because he's had a disastrous turnover in every single game and this one wasn't exactly disastrous but it was mind-bogglingly bad like the emmanuel agba is a huge man and he's standing right in front of the intended receiver on the play like the fact that he didn't even see him is very concerning on a lot of levels for levis' future as a quarterback but i do want to say like going into the season i did not necessarily think that Will Levis was going to be a franchise guy.

Speaker 74 I obviously hoped that he would prove himself to be a franchise guy. My stance on that was the Titans will be good if Will Levis is a franchise guy.

Speaker 74 And if Will Levis is not, then the Titans won't be good. And that's kind of what we've seen through four games now.

Speaker 74 And Mason Rudolph came in and just played very even-keeled game manager to the maximum.

Speaker 23 Don't screw this up. Boring.

Speaker 65 This is exactly what I was talking about.

Speaker 30 I didn't want to see Mason Rudolph in my life.

Speaker 22 He's so boring.

Speaker 46 He's so milquetoast.

Speaker 7 This is every game. And you know what?

Speaker 39 To his credit, he wins also.

Speaker 40 But after the game, Brian Callahan actually spoke about who's his quarterback moving forward.

Speaker 46 And if you're expecting it to be Mason Rudolph, you might be surprised.

Speaker 75 100%. Yeah, it was healthy.
He's our quarterback. It was not a decision based on anything other than his health and protecting him, particularly with the bye week and the shoulder.

Speaker 75 That didn't feel great. I didn't want to put him back out there.
And I knew I was going to run the ball quite a bit. So that was really what affected us.

Speaker 75 But he's our starter when he's healthy, and we're ready to roll with him.

Speaker 5 You know,

Speaker 5 I think Brian Callahan's like you were brought there to at least for the first portion of the season.

Speaker 5 I don't think you jumped ship on Will Levis yet. We all get it.
This is a problematic situation. He's really young.
He's inexperienced.

Speaker 5 He's making like weekly gaffes that I don't know if those are if that's characteristic to who he is. That's a surprise to me, but he feels like a massive roller coaster.

Speaker 5 But it's like I'd stick with him for a while just because

Speaker 5 Mason Rudolph or not, I think Brian Callahan just does not really trust this offense. I thought tonight, though, was a bit of a turning point.

Speaker 5 Tony Pollard got the ground game going. I thought that was a big part of what was happening.

Speaker 5 They're a little weapons-free, but you were also playing the Dolphins, and you needed to come out of here with a win. They got 30 points as a team for the first time since January 2nd, 2022.

Speaker 5 I saw someone, some Titans fan on Twitter

Speaker 5 going losing his absolute mind over that, and that shows you the state of the fan base.

Speaker 5 But I will say, you played a Dolphins team that when you add up who they were missing, Tua, Bradley Chubb, Armstead, Kendall Fuller, David Long, Raheem Mostert, Odell Beckham, that adds up to $430 million in salary.

Speaker 5 Like the Dolphins just are a wounded, lost team. And it's like, I could walk into like

Speaker 5 the White Plains, like, and you're trying to get Tyler Huntley two days into being there to be functional.

Speaker 5 It's like, I could walk into an IBM branch in White Plains and say I can run the office, but I can't. Like it takes time.

Speaker 5 And so I think we're seeing the limits, even though we've seen like the Matt LaFleur scenario and some of these other coaches that with backups have done a lot, like the Dolphins look about as limited to me as I can imagine a football team on the final few days of September.

Speaker 32 Yeah, with the Dolphins,

Speaker 32 it's hard to even for me to gauge what to take out of it in terms of the true positives for the Titans because the Dolphins are such a mess right now.

Speaker 46 And I know one thing I know is that Tennessee's defense, for the most part, has been very solid this year.

Speaker 46 So this is always going to be a challenge for Miami without Tua.

Speaker 42 But, you know, as I'm watching this, it's like

Speaker 36 their

Speaker 24 inability to pivot and find any functionality to their offense.

Speaker 43 I don't want to get too on Mike McDaniel over it, but for a guy that has been trumpeted and he's a media darling as a real difference maker, as one of those special guys.

Speaker 29 He's not one of those special guys because you see special guys like Matt LaFleur, what he was able to do when Jordan Love went out with Malik Willis.

Speaker 44 Like, that's what you should be able to find a way to coach up.

Speaker 3 You still have a lot of talent on that offense.

Speaker 9 And

Speaker 32 that old idea that there's only so many coaches that actually are difference makers.

Speaker 7 I believe that.

Speaker 12 And I think it's Kyle Shanahan, and I think it's Andy Reid, and I think it's Sean McVay.

Speaker 7 And I think you could, you know, maybe put Matt LaFleur in there, but maybe let's wait until he wins something.

Speaker 32 You could maybe think about the Harbaughs there, but you know, outside of that group,

Speaker 74 Dan Campbell.

Speaker 61 No, I don't think he's that.

Speaker 42 I'm saying the true guys that are the difference makers, like that can save a ship that's sinking when you lose your captain, in this case, Tua, of their offense.

Speaker 42 And McDaniel, to me, has failed that test.

Speaker 8 And I understand it's the quarterbacks and the players that decide these things, but it's just a real tough look to see this offense crumble the way it has.

Speaker 42 And they have no downfield passing. They have no way to figure out how to get Tyreek Hill going in this situation.

Speaker 30 Devon Achan cannot move the ball on the ground without the passing game to balance things out.

Speaker 32 Even when they get a pass off, when Snoop Huntley gets a pass off, TJ Wild has a terrible drop.

Speaker 7 It's just so ugly, and it's grisly, and obviously puts a defense in an impossible situation as well.

Speaker 74 They can't run the ball. And this is a theme all season, even when they had Tua.

Speaker 74 They have been, and I know HN was like leading the league in force missed tackles coming into this game, but in this game specifically, they had 72 yards on 26 designed runs.

Speaker 74 So that removes the scrambles and whatever. That was minus 43 rushing yards over expected, the next-gen stats thing that looks at like where the blockers are and where the defenders are.

Speaker 74 So they're 43 yards under expected. In their other three games this year, against Jacksonville, even though they won that game, they ran for 81 yards on 25 carries.

Speaker 74 Against Buffalo, they put up 139 yards, which is okay. I mean, it's pretty decent.
34 carries to get there, 4.1 yards per carry. And against Seattle last week, 65 rushing yards.

Speaker 74 So you want to help a backup quarterback, you got to be able to get something moving in the ground game the way that the Packers did with Matt with Malik Willis.

Speaker 74 When he started those two games, they pounded the rock with Josh Jacobs and they were successful at it.

Speaker 74 And yeah, you can say, well, defenses are going to crowd the line of scrimmage because they don't feel threatened by the quarterback.

Speaker 74 But Matt LaFleur came out in that first game with Malik Willis and had like 15 different random run concepts, power, zone, gap, motion this way, counters, polars, like all kinds of different stuff to keep the defense from being able to just load up one side or one the middle or whatever.

Speaker 74 And that's something that Mike McDaniel has got to figure out or they're just going to be waiting for Tua to come back. And by then the season's long gone.

Speaker 32 That's what I, Mark. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 I'm glad that you added to that, Justin.

Speaker 37 It's like that this is where a guy like McDaniel needs to make his money, figure it out, because you have a quarterback with a recurring brain injury that you're not going to rush back into action.

Speaker 52 I don't know what their plan is with Tua, and I know it's going to be tempting, especially there's going to be a lot of Dolphins fans screaming for this to get this guy back in the lineup, but that's a whole tricky other situation.

Speaker 32 So it's a very dicey, very dicey times in Miami right now.

Speaker 5 The only thing I like about their setup is that they go to New England.

Speaker 5 That's a game you can try to figure your stuff out with beforehand.

Speaker 65 Then you know, though, Mark.

Speaker 63 What makes you think that going to New England is going to be a good idea.

Speaker 23 Well, I'd rather go to New England than

Speaker 5 I'd rather go to New England than 25 other cities. You know what I mean? I'm just saying that.
Like compared to, hey, let's go to Minnesota and see if we can figure this out.

Speaker 5 So I like that better, but then you have a buy.

Speaker 5 But I would say this, like, I'm watching a team that, if this is what happens when hard times hit, because here's the next hard time that's going to hit it's called winter that's the next thing this team's never been able to deal with so i don't really like the idea of a dolphins team that doesn't start about seven and one under mike mcdaniel um i don't like the idea of them being three and eight or three and nine and then getting two a back like Look at, I see a couple players on this team that I, do you, I don't know if I try, like, Tyreek Hill cares.

Speaker 5 I'm not saying he doesn't, but it's like, how long until Tyreek Hill is annoyed with this situation? Waddle is annoyed. Everyone's annoyed.
You got a lot of injured players all over the place.

Speaker 5 Jalen Phillips went out tonight. Like, it just feels kind of like a lot of bad energy, a lot of bad juju, and the situation's not good.
And it's not going to get fixed two weeks from now.

Speaker 5 And I don't think Tua is the kind of guy that's going to come in like Brett Favre and save the whole situation. I don't see him that way.

Speaker 43 See, here's the thing, though.

Speaker 42 I'm not the biggest Tua fan, but it's what we've seen in his absence that shows you how perfectly.

Speaker 5 This makes you appreciate him more.

Speaker 5 Absolutely.

Speaker 67 And I do agree with that.

Speaker 6 Whether we think that Tua is a guy that can take a team to the Super Bowl, I certainly have my doubts as well, but someone who could functionally run the offense.

Speaker 54 It also, like, you could also look at it from the other perspective.

Speaker 49 It's like they don't have a guy on the roster who can run the offense that they have.

Speaker 4 Well, that's part of their blame on that as well.

Speaker 32 They got rid of Mike White, who I thought was a good backup right before the start of the season, and they felt comfortable with the guys on the roster.

Speaker 66 And Skylar Thompson is bad and gets hurt immediately, and Snoop Huntley is the ultimate journeyman. So

Speaker 51 they're in a way right now.

Speaker 54 And it's just like, that was a tough watch.

Speaker 29 That was a bad football game.

Speaker 44 And I watched my own team play a bad football game against the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 11 So to get back-to-back of those type of games where it's just like two hopeless offenses, hoping they can set up for 52-yard field goals, turning turnovers into nothing.

Speaker 72 And

Speaker 33 all this, oh, man, it was just, it was just, and then the titans come on justin and

Speaker 5 like what do we do with like they're better built though than something though i would say the titans are better built than someone what's the score it's 24 12

Speaker 39 and there's some bizarre madness that happens with this you know rule change by the way

Speaker 39 that we're doing on a free kick after a safety what happened on that play justin does anybody know what happened at the end of this game where there's a safety and a free kick and then the free kick goes to the titans flags come out, and then all of a sudden the Titans have the ball in the red zone of the Dolphins.

Speaker 40 What the hell happened there?

Speaker 74 At the 10-yard line, this was the most confounding play of the season to me, and I will go to my grave thinking that all 22 players who are on the field for this safety punt, that's what happened.

Speaker 74 So the Titans get a safety, or they create a Dolphins safety.

Speaker 74 The Dolphins are punting it to the Titans, and they decide they're going to do an on-side punt because it was a safety, and you have to declare that in advance.

Speaker 74 And so they line up for the the on-site punt, and the Titans players treat it like a punt.

Speaker 74 They like try to little pooch kick past like the big group of people, and the Titans players are just like running away from the ball.

Speaker 74 Like, we don't want the ball, don't touch the ball, don't we don't want to muff the punt. And the Dolphins players run down and jump on the ball.
And it's like, this is a live kickoff.

Speaker 74 This is not a punt on fourth down where you just don't want to touch the ball. Like, you got to go grab the ball.

Speaker 74 And they were saved by this bizarre rule about the landing zone because the ball didn't land in the landing zone.

Speaker 23 The fucking landing zone again.

Speaker 5 But the best, wait, the best part about it was

Speaker 5 when the official had to come out and tried to explain it, and I feel bad for these guys sometimes. Like,

Speaker 5 A, you're in an agitated stadium that can't believe what's happening to their football team. But, like,

Speaker 5 his verbal attempt to get out what actually occurred.

Speaker 54 I felt so bad for him.

Speaker 5 I did too, because I mean, I think he was like, wait a minute, this has not happened to me ever in my career. Like, it's happening now.

Speaker 5 And, like, you know, it's the kind of thing where everyone suddenly wrote like a two-paragraph blog about what actually happened because nobody knows and the players didn't seem to know and the ref didn't know

Speaker 74 the players did not know that they were okay to not touch to not field the ball because of the landing zone that's what i was saying i'll go to my grave like nobody on the field was aware of that fact what do we do here's the here's the rule

Speaker 74 so an onside kick slash punt is the receiving team's ball automatically if it goes more than 20 yards. Now, that's the new rule.
You have to declare that it's going to be on sides.

Speaker 74 The ball cannot travel more than 20 yards, or they just don't, or it just goes to the receiving team. And there's a 15-yard penalty from the spot of where the kicking team lined up.

Speaker 74 So, because it was a safety punt and not a traditional kickoff, the ball's already backed up a little bit, and then it moves 15 yards down to the 10-yard line.

Speaker 74 So, the Titans get the ball first and goal from the 10 with just over two minutes remaining.

Speaker 30 I mean, who are the stewards of the game that came up with this?

Speaker 16 I am telling you, someone sat in an office at 345 Park Avenue and walked out of there patting themselves on the back.

Speaker 63 What have you done to the game?

Speaker 54 What have you done to the play? Rule change.

Speaker 5 You know, it's research. I mean, this is why I'll be doing like a gymnastics blog three years from now because

Speaker 5 this is overly convoluted. Like,

Speaker 5 I need to go, you know.

Speaker 74 I would really like to. The officiating in this game overall was pretty horrendous.
Like, they botched. I'm not going to complain.
I'm not complaining about the refs guy.

Speaker 74 I don't care that much, but a number of calls that were just like, the spot is clearly wrong, they blow the fumble dead.

Speaker 27 I mean, yeah, there was an early play that would have been a scoop and score touchdown potentially by the Titans.

Speaker 44 That again, there was hesitation and they blew it dead and should have let the play play out.

Speaker 41 Just not a game that we ever need to think about again.

Speaker 46 I'm glad that you have a win, Justin, because you deserve it.

Speaker 3 But let's let's flush it out of our minds.

Speaker 48 One, one thought, one other thought

Speaker 72 on Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 66 Do we have a side-by-side of Mike McDaniel when he started as the coach and Mike McDaniel now?

Speaker 74 Yes, this is him at his introductory press conference on the right, if you're watching on YouTube, and from tonight's game on the left.

Speaker 64 Okay, so, you know, I guess you could call it a glow-up or whatever, but he's hitting the tanning bed really hard.

Speaker 8 He's got designer glasses now.

Speaker 40 He's got a very expensive haircut.

Speaker 68 And I just wonder, Mark,

Speaker 72 I just wonder if the old McDaniel, you know, I want the old McDaniel back.

Speaker 68 This Miami Makeover, Mike McDaniel, I'm not as big a fan as

Speaker 32 the outsider that took over.

Speaker 24 And I don't know if these things are correlated, but what the hell?

Speaker 72 There's a direct correlation between the new Mike McDaniel image and the failures to properly shift after the Tua injury.

Speaker 61 I did.

Speaker 32 There's my hot take.

Speaker 17 Sell it all over social, Justin. Thank you.

Speaker 5 I think it's fair. I think it's fair.

Speaker 5 I mean, we see these coaches nowadays. They're way younger.

Speaker 5 They've come from the world of being an assistant coach. I think Mike McDaniel was pretty, you know, tucked away, not someone that we knew about.
And I think typically, I think two things.

Speaker 5 A, you live in Miami.

Speaker 5 So that's a different place to live in other places. It's going to affect what happens to you aesthetically.

Speaker 5 I think especially when you are one of the most famous people in Miami and one of the richest people in Miami or a rich person in Miami. Secondly, usually, I know he's married, but it's usually

Speaker 5 I tend to think that there's either a friend or female influence that step in and say, we're going to work on you a little bit. But I miss the pure,

Speaker 5 you know, just he was a nerd. And I, like, we don't have a nerd now.
We've got a nerd that got kind of hot or semi-hot or a hot version of a nerd. I don't know.

Speaker 62 I think, yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

Speaker 51 Like a semi-hot former nerd now.

Speaker 5 It's not just like the girl that takes her glasses off like at the end of the second act, like in one of those 90s movies.

Speaker 46 It's a little different than that, but he's also got like $7,000 limited edition Jordans with the designer sweatpants like pulled up to the calves.

Speaker 53 It's just like a whole thing going on with the vibe now. I don't know.

Speaker 5 I don't like when people

Speaker 5 roughly our age get better looking. Like I'd rather them continue on a downhill course and we at least stay relatively on par with them.

Speaker 10 Thank you. I think you got to the bottom of it ultimately.

Speaker 47 All right.

Speaker 24 So there you go.

Speaker 66 The Dolphins one and three.

Speaker 46 Like Mark said, now travel to New England to try to get some things figured out.

Speaker 62 And the Titans get that win.

Speaker 27 Anything else? Let's say this.

Speaker 37 We have challenged you, the audience.

Speaker 46 And for me, it's good cop, bad cop. I'm the good cop.
Mark's the bad cop. I love what you guys do for us.

Speaker 6 We just need a little bit more because what we're trying to do is hashtag 48.4.

Speaker 30 Where are we at right now, Justin?

Speaker 12 Where have we moved since Sunday when we launched this campaign?

Speaker 51 We're trying to get past a certain figure on a different feed.

Speaker 30 And this is something that we're very gung-ho about, and it's very important to us.

Speaker 44 And we don't ask for much, but we ask for this.

Speaker 46 If you can help us out, where are we at on this one?

Speaker 74 We are just over 12,000 subscribers as of the time of this recording.

Speaker 74 Hopefully, by the time all of you people are listening to this, it's way higher because you're out there heating that call and pumping us up over close to 48.4. But right now, we're just over 12,000.

Speaker 74 So we're, you know, a little over a quarter of the way there, I guess.

Speaker 36 And, Mark, just to be clear, that Justin, when he said you people, he didn't mean it in a negative way.

Speaker 47 I am very

Speaker 30 fond of our listenership and our audience, and I believe in them, and I believe they're going to carry us to great heights.

Speaker 17 That height, the peak being hashtag 48.4.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and I think like, well, when you label me the bad cop, I think that, you know, the precinct would be in trouble if I'm the bad cop, like dealing with stuff. But like

Speaker 5 I can get agitated with our listeners because I just expect a lot of them.

Speaker 5 And this would be a case where it's like, there are at least, you know, 30,000, 40, 50,000 people out there that haven't taken action on this. call to arms.
And it's just simply take action.

Speaker 5 Stop what you're doing, or at least plan tonight or very soon to do it. Is it that time? Very well.

Speaker 64 Very well said.

Speaker 22 All right, coming up the rest of the week,

Speaker 69 Steve Smith and James Palmer.

Speaker 43 Yeah, that's Steve Smith, number 89 himself, Agent 89. That was the name, right?

Speaker 64 Love that.

Speaker 12 They will join us on Wednesday.

Speaker 13 We're going to check in on the rookie wide receivers at the quarter poll mark. Also, we're going to preview the Bucs Falcons TNF matchup Thursday.

Speaker 22 Of course, we have the

Speaker 6 week five preview show with Jordan and Mike.

Speaker 13 TNF recap recap later that night, and yes, the Sunday night flagship with Connor Orr, all coming up around the bend.

Speaker 22 Thank you to everybody for your support.

Speaker 33 And until next time, heed the call.

Speaker 5 Or can't. It's very secretive.
It's a very secret society.

Speaker 73 In the here here and now, I'm very interested in New Thought, which is the spiritual philosophy that grew out of born like this into this.

Speaker 73 As the chonk faces smile,

Speaker 73 as Mrs. Death laughs.

Speaker 2 Martyred.

Speaker 73 Tortured by sidewalks.

Speaker 70 Starved for sex and companionship.

Speaker 73 May young men on acid realize that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow night.

Speaker 70 Welcome to Rolling Thunder, where hosts Mark Sessler and Jason Zumwalt peel back the layers on a rumbling storm of esoteric topics.

Speaker 5 We'll explore the works of cultural icons like Kerouac and Bukowski, dive deep into wild worlds like OnlyFans, and explore our shared love and occasional annoyance for Star Wars.

Speaker 70 We'll also be dissecting calls from listeners on a slew of lurid items and anything else that's tugging at our dark heartstrings. This is Rolling Thunder.

Speaker 76 Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies.
Like, how am I more than Saquon Barkley, the NFL's reigning leading rusher.

Speaker 76 I'm also the NFL's leading husher.

Speaker 76 Hush up back there.

Speaker 21 Wow.

Speaker 76 I might have just set the hushing record.

Speaker 76 Well, almost. For your insurance and financial needs, nationwide is on your side.

Speaker 70 Nationwide Investment Services Corporation member Finrick, Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 19 The holidays mean more travel, more shopping, more time online, and more personal info in more places that could expose you more to identity theft.

Speaker 19 But LifeLock monitors millions of data points per second. If your identity is stolen, our U.S.-based restoration specialists will fix it guaranteed or your money back.

Speaker 19 Don't face drained accounts, fraudulent loans, or financial losses alone. Get more holiday fun and less holiday worry with Life Lock.
Save up to 40% your first year. Visit lifelock.com/slash podcast.

Speaker 19 Terms apply.