THE END AROUND: Tush Push Exhaustion, Flag Football in the Middle East (!?) + TNF Preview!

1h 11m
Dan Hanzus & Marc Sessler are joined by Pete Sweeney of the Kansas City Star for the weekly Wednesday installment of The End Around, running through the latest news items and NFL moments that captured our attention since Monday. We cap off the show with a preview of Dolphins at Bills on Thursday night and a network TV drama check-in.

0:00 The End Around: Week 3

1:54 Pete Sweeney joins

7:57 Chiefs Panic Meter

12:54 Tush Push Drama

19:17 Mindset of Green Bay Packers

27:00 Best football player in the world?

34:36 NFL AI Commercial

39:02 Week 2 Fun Facts

44:47 Flag Football in Saudi Arabia

52:13 Roster News

54:21 TNF Preview: Dolphins at Bills

1:03:36 Doc Check-In

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hey oh welcome to heed the call

an nfl podcast i'm dan handsis

with my beautiful co-host mark sessler you know sese hump day

right

Also, tomorrow, Thursday, is week three.

I mean, we've been doing this for a long time, but it's crazy in terms of the NFL routine, how it just starts rolling like a snowball.

It's week three already.

It's

as if rocks were falling from the sky.

There's no stopping it.

You just kind of

try not to get hit by one, but you're going to get hit by one at some point.

And I don't know if we're allowed to still say hump day, but I think that's still in our lexicon, correct?

Hump Day is still here.

I think our show is mostly driving it at this point, but

it's still a thing.

And yes, so our midweek show, as it always is, is our end-around show, which will be a spinaround of all the news headlines.

Anything else that we've kind of the Jetsum and Flotsum?

I reverse that.

Flotsam and Jetsum?

Flotsam and Jetsum, I believe, is typically.

Flotsam and I like Jetsam and Flotsam.

But you know what?

Looks like we need to break the tie.

So, and it's really the only reason he's on the show is to break this tie.

I've thought about this for a couple of days.

I feel like Pete Sweeney, our friend, beat writer for the Kansas City Chiefs, the much under fire Chiefs, good timing, HTC, will break the tie.

Jetsamer, Flotsamer, Flotsamer, Jetsam.

Pete.

I think I favor Jetsimer.

It feels like it comes off the tongue a little better.

Thank you very much.

Well, this is only because I failed to respond to Pete's text when I was in Deep Missouri, and I'm still smarting from that, but it's going to have

an after effect.

I'm glad that we, I'm glad, and again, this end around, we like to have somebody in this jump seat every week.

And Pete is perfect because he knows our show.

He's been on our show.

We've held him in our embrace on more than one occasion.

We'll keep that private otherwise.

But also, there is history, and

I'm glad you kind of got that out there, that you did blow off Pete's text, Mark, a few months back.

Mark, during the summer, somehow said he was in Missouri.

So I broke away from the group text and I said, look, man, the next time you're in Missouri, hit me up.

I'll

bring you to the coolest dive bar I know.

Radio silence, big league.

Tesla.

Pete, was there any

effort from Mark to rectify that?

Like, you know, something, you know, let things cool down after you called him out last time you were on your show.

And then maybe did he fire something out your way just to test the waters?

Any effort like that to be a decent human?

I have noticed since the Texadent that he's been a lot nicer to me on social media, really leaning into me, Amigo, my friend.

Great to have Pete here.

I've gotten a couple Instagram likes.

I mean, it's been a full court press publicly.

Nothing privately, but certainly in the public sphere.

You know, that kind of touches.

Checks out for Sessler.

I like to start publicly and let's amplify you and sort of the entire Pete Sweeney experience.

experience, and then we'll get a little more personal.

You're learning about the

Sessler mask.

You see what it's all about, you know.

Well, this is also, this could not be more up Dan's alley to find out that I made a social mistake,

you know, out of pocket.

And then it's like, oh, this just checks out everything that we think about Mark.

Well, it's like, I could, I don't want to waste more time on it, but there is a nuanced reason for why that went down.

And it would have nothing to do with.

It's over.

Yeah.

It's over.

There's no way to, there's no way to kind of put the toothpaste back in the tube on that one, my man.

Okay.

You know, this is a, it was a moment of heartbreak.

I mean, you know, to pull the curtain back, to be in the ore chair after listening to the show for 10 years into the ATL days, you know, it felt good.

And, you know, to pop on, certainly to be a host today.

And I, you know, I hear Mark mention Missouri in passing.

So, you know, I've heard, you know, back into the West days, you guys love a dive bar.

I feel like, okay, here's a point of connection.

Radio silence.

Since then, though, it's been better.

It's been better, and it's been appreciated and noticed.

So thank you, Mark.

And this is why they call me the Peacemaker, because I'm just jumping in, and

I'm rolling up the sleeves, and I'm getting my hands dirty, and I'm saying, how do we fix this?

This is Classic Peacemaker at the top of his game.

So we're working towards something, Mark.

Well, you call yourself Peacemaker.

I think that we might call it something else because you enjoy kind of roiling it all up and getting it going to start.

And then you solve the problem that you helped,

you know, turn into a

classic pot stirrer yeah a classic pot stirrer uh but listen you come out of it uh a dirty peter perhaps a stinky davis

only sometimes it just depends on how much laker look anyway yeah we know mark we know each other so well at this point that it's

we could finish our own

never mind okay let's um let's dive into today's end around shall we uh by the way hi justin i forgot to say hello to you how are you buddy that's okay.

I'm good.

Thanks.

Let's get to today's Ender Round.

Very nice.

And by the way, one more thing about Pete.

Every other time we've had Pete on the show, he's been working with the Arrowhead Pride site.

But now, as we mentioned, he is covering the Chiefs for the KC Star, also on Kansas City's KSHB 41 news channel, Sports Radio 810.

That's a real jump.

That's a career jump.

And that is a tide that lifts all boats.

So you on our show as the voice of Chiefs or the written voice of Chiefs fandom, that's a big deal.

Congrats, buddy.

Yeah, thanks.

Yeah,

thank you.

I'm excited.

I ran Arrowhead Pride for eight years, which is really well known in Kansas City.

And I think elsewhere, you know, it does get referenced on the ASPN NFL network on occasion.

Schraeger was always a big fan of Arrowhead Pride.

But yeah, now joining the paper of record Mid-Dynasty, maybe for another four months, I guess we'll end up seeing.

Yeah, Mid-Dynasty might be a little bit.

We'll see.

We'll see, right?

But it's cool.

I would travel to a few games per year, whatever at Pride, and I'll be starting this weekend, traveling every week, which is really wild.

I was telling you guys off-air, but I'll just share it.

I grew up a Giants fan in New York and wanted to do sports journalism, found my way to Kansas City, and they play a Giants Stadium every 12 years.

So the fact that this is my first road trip that's paid for and taken care of, and

an entity wanting me to be there is just, it's a a very cool thing that's happening on Sunday night so it's symbolic and also um you work at the same newspaper a famous one one of the oldest in the country where Ernest Hemingway once was a reporter so I prefer Jason Whitlock over Hemingway but

we'll do it Hemingway

and also Mark here's another just unsolicited advice come Sunday when Pete's at the Meadowlands, shoot him a text.

I'll even give you the text like, hey, man, this has to be a trip for you, man god go go kill it today dude that's a it's dreams coming true for you man really really absolutely it's a great idea but tell me these in private so it looks organic okay i'll cook something else up uh what the hell why don't we start here why not let's talk about the chiefs just a little bit here pete because uh obviously they're 0-2 uh but at the same time they are 0-2 against the chargers and these you know dopey you know Brazil game or whatever, which I always put a little bit of an asterisk on.

Maybe I shouldn't, but it just, takes everyone so out of their routines.

It just seems like such a strange thing, especially to start the season.

Then they come home and, you know, who knows if Travis Kelsey makes that catch that leads to the game turning interception.

Maybe, maybe they're one and one right now, but they're not.

They're 0-2.

In terms of Chiefs, panic, 0-10 P scale, 0, pants totally dry, 10, you're totally soaked.

You got to take your hoodie off and tie it around your waist and find

somewhere else to go and change out of your pants.

Where do you stand on the P-scale?

Well, I guess

the whole thing is surprising to me.

And this goes back to like the first day of training camp.

And I get there and Andy Reid runs over to me and he told me, Petey, I love this team.

And so when I hear something like that from Andy Reid,

I'm

shocked.

Yeah.

No, I wish that story were true.

No,

I think the panic level is about a six or seven.

I know James.

We've gone to dinner before.

Just joke.

It's my favorite James thing ever.

It's the best James story ever.

I think the panic level for Chiefs fans who are just not used to losing close games is maybe about a six or seven.

I think it gets to the 10 point if they lose to the New York Giants.

You do have the Brazil stuff.

I don't think the team wants to embrace it as an excuse, but there is a disparity in the Brazil game where the home team is treated a lot better in a sense of travel than the road team.

The road team has a two, three-hour bus ride because of the infrastructure of Brazil, whereas the other team is closer to the stadium.

Yeah, it feels like a reach for going to that game.

They did come out a little flat, it ended up being the difference in the game.

I also think the Chargers are good after 10 years of people saying it.

I mean, you saw the defense on Monday night, and Justin Herbert looks like he could be the MVP this year, you know, early, early here.

And then you have the Eagles game.

The tush-push became a big part of that game.

Another slow start for the offense.

I think the whole narrative is different if Travis Kelsey just catches the ball and they win the game.

I think that was a huge point.

But they're not a team without problems.

And I think everybody realizes that.

And, you know, to use the cliche, Sunday in the Middle Lands probably feels like a get-right game, but you're also facing a Russ Wilson coming off one of the better games of his career, and the Giants' defense is certainly legit.

So I just don't know if it's an easy task.

I think you got to get out of the Rashi Rice window, which is six games at three and three.

So now you got to go three and one, and we'll kind of see if they can do it.

Like real quick, because I get that the fan base panic, because they've not been through this if you're a younger Chiefs fan, or it feels like a long time ago.

So it's sitting at six, it could escalate.

What about the team?

Like, do you sense a building frustration going through something they haven't gone through?

Or is this just like Chiefs have, we have ultra confidence, we're going to be fine?

Well, it's foreign to to many players on the team.

The last time that they were 0-2 was 2014.

And so this is new to everybody, really.

They usually have bounced back if they've dropped the opener, which hasn't been all that frequent

in general in that sense.

And so this is backs against the wall.

You know, I think typically in the Mahomes era, if you just look at it as a whole, even before the championships have started happening in 19, even dating back to 18, there always seemed to be a rebound when it seemed like they were down.

And it just seems like they have to dig deeper this year because of the suspension to Rashi Rice.

Xavier Worthy popped up with an injury.

He is practicing again this week.

I think we'll see about Sunday.

But you have your receivers that are down.

Hollywood Brown can only do so much.

Travis Kelsey,

I think he does look a little better despite the mistakes of the first two weeks.

But again, you really wanted to run the offense through Rashi Rice.

So I think the pressure is there.

You don't want to go 0-2 and look no further than Cincinnati all these years.

It's really tough to get out of that hole.

And so you want to rebound as quickly as possible.

There is no chance.

Zero.

And I know this is a pro-Giants podcast, but there is no chance the Chiefs lose that game.

I don't know.

They were spicy last year with the Giants.

In fact, that's part of the reason.

We'll save this for the Thursday.

The Classic Chiefs to make it a lot harder than it should be.

I get that.

But also Classic Giants of the last 10 years to kind of suck you in a little bit with that game.

And then maybe things are a little bit different against the Chiefs team that's in desperation mode at 0-2.

File that away for our blind locks of the week.

All right.

Should we talk about the Tush-Push thing?

I think we're all exhausted by it.

But

because it was the spin coming out of that game, was that the Eagles won because of the tush-push, which I don't think is necessarily fair.

As much as I thought it removed a lot of the elegance and fun out of the end of the game, I don't think it's why they won.

Jordan Milata, the left tackle, went on WIP

and was pretty fired up about it and bonus points because hearing Australian who's angry, that's fun.

So let's listen in.

I understand it.

I understand the outrage.

What I don't understand is them using it as an excuse to why we won the game.

Right.

I think it's incredibly disrespectful to our defense and our special teams who bought out.

You know, my brothers on defense and special teams who bought out that game, who had our backs when we weren't moving the ball or we weren't doing anything.

And so when I see those things and they fly, you know, they fly across my timeline here and there.

And I do my best to stay off social media, but

that kind of irks me a little bit.

That pisses me off because

we give so much to this game and to

kind of base off

a short yardage play that is a football play

And say that we won the game off that,

but not how our defense played, not how our special teams have played, putting us in those positions.

You know,

I think it's bullcrap.

Part of my friend.

Hey, let me press this dump button.

No, no, no, no.

Bull crap is fine.

Yeah, that's fine.

Yeah, that one's fine.

I was going to say a lot of other stuff, but, you know.

I just think it's rubbish.

It's absolute rubbish, man.

It makes me

blood boiler just thinking about it.

That's as angry as an Australian can get, by the way.

What a voice.

That's peak Australian anger.

What was the, while we're here,

what was the Chiefs' side of this in that locker room to, I don't know, did they really think that that's why that game was taken from them?

Or

how are they reacting to all this talk?

I share the Chiefs' notion, and I think it dates back to the offseason.

I never thought it should be banned.

I think it's one of the least entertaining plays in football, but just because a team is mastered, it doesn't mean you ban it.

I think what changed in in this particular game is just the fact that the Chiefs really felt like the Eagles guards were false starting on a lot of the succeeding plays.

And you see, I think with Chris Collinsworth and sort of targeting Jawan Taylor, and all of a sudden he's getting called for a lot of things.

You just wonder if there is an adjustment this week where you see it.

and it's officiated a little bit better.

But I think you've started to see some of the momentum.

First they tried the safety of it.

Jason Kelsey kind of shook that off.

Now it's more of, can we officiate this play?

And I think for Andy Reid to go as far as to say there were missed calls, he doesn't usually address officiating.

I mean, it was soft from him, but again, that's like a 10 on the Andy Reid scale as far as frustration with officials.

And so I think that's the difference here.

And so, you know, we'll kind of see if there is an adjustment as we go.

It does feel like,

you know, there was talk and it came close potentially to cancel this play.

And I really never wanted that to happen.

I'm really glad that did not happen because then it's like, what's next?

But I think the problem is like it humiliates everyone involved with facing the Eagles.

Like the defense is humiliated.

The coaching staff who has had multiple offseasons to try to solve this problem can't solve it.

And the refs look like they're missing calls.

So everyone on the field is feeling furious that this play exists if you're anti-Chiefs or anti-Eagles.

But you don't take it away.

But here's my way to stop it.

Here's the thing.

And this is what actually gets me more mad about it is everyone thinks it's all about, well, if you can't, if you don't like it, stop it.

It's not about that.

It's this weird machismo angle that's been baked into so much of this conversation.

It's not about that for me.

For me as a football fan, it's like, it's not fun to watch.

And if it's, and it's not an anti-Eagles thing.

I'd say this if it was any of the other teams that were contenders in this league.

That's the problem.

And I'm watching that game.

And I don't, I thought it slowed down the the momentum of a really great defensive slugfest.

And when you hear Dean Blendino come on and like shrug his shoulders and be like, you're coming to me to ask me how to officiate this play.

The league doesn't know how to officiate this play.

Obviously, there's penalties.

Potentially there's turnovers going on.

We can't see.

We don't know.

And that's to me what it's about.

It's not good for the product.

It's not.

But I feel like what has been more exciting and in terms of like the sports talk side of it is like, this is against the Eagles.

And, oh, you're not tough enough to stop it and all this shit and it's like oh jalen hurts has such strong legs too bad you don't it's like no it's like is does this make football more fun to watch to me it's no and i i can't mark can you honestly tell me you enjoy watching that play here's the thing

like i i can hear where you're coming from that the machismo if we want to label it as that has become a tired argument like the whole the whole conversation has grown stale as like a 10-week old loaf of bread but i will say this like um it to say that you don't enjoy the play is subjective.

Many people might like that style of football, and I don't feel when I'm watching it like, wow, I can't stand the play I just watched.

It's like this thing that this that really, to me, builds out the character of one NFL team that's created something that no one can defend or stop.

Like, I don't hate that.

I think it adds an element of challenge.

Um, I'm not saying, hey, no, you, you know, that's just simply down to that, but I don't look at it and say, well, I can't stand this game.

I don't have that.

Also, right?

You saw that.

That part of it is

humiliating to the officials.

And then that part needs to get corrected, right?

I don't know, but it's humiliating.

I'm with you.

I understand why teams feel that it could be a humiliating play.

They know it's coming.

They can't stop it.

It sounds like the officials are just more frustrated by it.

It's like everyone's trying to, how do we fix this?

We don't know how.

We can't.

It's too compact.

And, you know, that's a scrum.

It's a rugby scrum.

All right.

Let's move on.

Let's just move on.

Mark, let's talk about your Packers.

You have planted your flag in Green Bay this season, and everybody's very happy for you.

It's a 2-0 start.

What is different about this Packers team?

Well, I think Micah Parsons makes them very different.

Let's start there.

But also, it's a mindset, okay?

A mindset, sussy.

Here's all-pro safety Xavier McKinney on this 2-0 start.

I'm not going to sit up here and say we're the best team in the NFL.

I mean, it's just two games.

We got a lot of football to play.

And I think the biggest thing about being 2-0,

to be honest, like you can't really get

complacent and you can't feel like you won a Super Bowl.

Because it's a lot of that start off 2-0, and later in the season, they don't be worth shit.

I like it.

There's a lot of ways to say that.

It's kind of it's like it's player speak, right?

But I like that he dropped some language in there and kind of went fire with it.

And like, I imagine any good team understands that two weeks into the year, there's still plenty of room for an apocalyptic nightmare to occur.

So you don't get too

up in your own britches.

Pete, how about the idea of just motherfuckers as a term that endures?

I mean, it's

a pretty hardcore term, and it gets used in different ways.

It could be used as a real scathing put-down.

In this case, I don't see it used in the more literal sense, but still, it does always jar me when it gets just dropped into a sentence about a fast start of a football team.

I believe we had a moment where Amir Smith-Marcet was on the Chiefs, and he eventually gets traded late in camp to the Panthers.

And he came on and said,

I'm, you know, we asked him, you know, who are you?

You know, what type of player is Amir Smith-Marcet?

And I think he said, I'm the baddest MFer in the NFL.

And

I think it transcends the player, no matter who says it.

It could be a special teamer like Mr.

Amir or

someone we just heard that has a bigger role.

It really

is ear-catching and is always something you're going to run.

I mean, it could be the long snapper.

We're going to run that in the Kansas City Star.

So I think it speaks volumes.

Yeah, I like it.

I think Samuel Jackson has done more for that

phrase than anyone.

And right down to the moment in pulp fiction in the diner, where he pulls the wallet out of the bag, and the wallet literally says bad motherfucker.

Jules Winston.

I mean,

snakes don't belong on a plane.

And

you got to emphasize that sometimes.

Yeah, I think that's important.

We need to make sure people understand that.

And speaking of the Packers, this one was on my radar a little bit.

I got to be honest with you.

Now, I don't know if any of you have had

a surgery where they knock you out,

you undergo the procedure, and then you wake up and you're in a very, you're a state of

you're high, basically.

You've been put to sleep during the procedure.

When you wake up, you might be saying things that don't make total sense because you're under the influence of the anesthesia or whatever it is, right?

That's what happened to Jaden Reed.

He had surgery on his collarbone after, by the way, one of the worst ways to get hurt in pro football is making a great touchdown catch, landing on your shoulder and breaking your collarbone, and then it's called back for a penalty.

That ain't right.

That's just like one of those things.

Like, life has a cruel sense of humor.

Anyway, so his relative, I don't know if it was his mother or an aunt or a girlfriend or whoever, they put him on Instagram live

right when he wakes up from the surgery.

And Mark, you'll like the sentiment of what Jaden had to say because even when high as hell, high as a mother can get,

the Packers' mission and goal is intact.

Check this out.

You got a whole bunch of people on here.

You want to tell them?

Tell them hi.

Tell them that you want to.

Pack us to the bowl, bro.

Right in hand, you want to bow.

Bruh.

Tell them.

Tell them you're good.

And then we're going to talk about it.

I'm good.

Thank you for the prayers, bro.

No.

But we turned, bruh.

We're going all the fing way, bro.

Okay, that's it.

Nah, bruh.

They can't fuck with us, bro.

Like, turn it off.

Scrambling to turn it off.

What do you ask them for?

Couldn't we say that, like, if we were enjoying Xavier McKinney's 2-0 doesn't mean anything, we haven't accomplished anything,

Jaden Reed is sort of diametrically opposed to the philosophical angle here?

And maybe it takes some medication, but

not on the same train there in terms of where we believe the Packers are at.

Yeah.

I just like all this, I think this train is all rolling right out of Sessler Station.

I think all these vibes started, you know, in August when you got hot for the Packers, and now it's just, it's a freight train, baby.

As long as too many more players aren't going under the knife.

No, like I said, the difference between this Sessler

selection and the past is this team is good.

Now, you had a, I mean, they've been to the playoffs like every year, right?

Under

LaFlor.

You now predicted a good team to make a leap rather than a middling team to rise out of like the slumber of the NFL or the underbelly of the league.

And I think that's a big difference, Pete.

And I and I think it was a smart move by Ceci, and I think that's a key difference here.

I learned it this offseason, and I know Mark probably shared, it's never too late to win the breakup.

And he put his onions on the table.

And

I like the pick.

And you got to do those types of things to show that you know what you're talking about.

And look, I think when we heard it, right, when I heard it as just a podcast listener, I was kind of caught off guard, but it sounds really

psychic in a strange way.

And so I think that plays into the Mark Mystique, the Mark Steek, if you will.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The Mark Steek, yeah.

It took only about 12 years to nail one of these.

But I'm not going to mention the past.

Yeah, some would maybe say, well, he predicted it before Micah Parsons got there.

And now he's getting credit for the Micah Parsons side of it, too.

But I wouldn't say that.

I would just say that was

a good fortune that just loaded your pick up even better.

I mean, there's nothing you can't take that away from Mark.

That's what I would say.

I would suggest that it just deepens the psychic.

Yeah, if you're not on the beat of Pretty Ricky, you're doing it wrong nowadays.

So Mark Mark was

on the Twitter sphere, and he kind of used that to his advantage.

And who's to blame him for that, I think?

You can see Pete and Mark just getting closer as the the episode goes along, like it's a special time.

I know.

But here's the question.

Is it a show business type of closer or is it a real connection?

We don't ask those questions.

Yeah.

We'll see.

Stay tuned.

And by the way, if I ever get my tonsils out or, you know,

you know, I have to get my gallbladder removed, if any of you motherfuckers,

put a camera in front of my face and then put it on the show.

You could take a walk.

It's a great idea.

Walter White, Walter White learned it the hard way.

That's how they discovered the two phones and you just got to be careful with those situations.

That's right.

That's right.

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I like this.

I like this.

It's just a fun, it's a fun talker, as they say in the industry.

Raheem Morris,

coming off a game where, and really now it's a large sample size that Bijan Robinson is you know arguably the best running back in the league or right there

his head coach says he's the best football player alive right now here's a little bit from Rahim do you think Bijan's one of the best or one of the best players in football there no doubt about it he best

he does you should you said the best player in football he's he's definitely

the best player in football like in my head I don't care he's unbelievable like I love the kid I love everything about him.

I love watching him with the ball.

I love his confidence.

I love his demeanor.

I love his mindset.

I love the leadership.

I love everything about him.

It's a great question because

you would maybe default to saying, well, it's got to be a quarterback because the quarterback is the most important.

But if you actually just make it a question of like, let's go to the playground and let's play a game and who are you picking to be on your team?

I would probably go with Saquon Barkley right now or maybe a Justin Jefferson.

But Bijan is making his case, Pete.

Like, I mean, this guy has raised his game.

He's coming off a monster week two, and he's a stud.

And obviously, like the same thing with Jim Harbaugh with the Chargers and Herbert, you're going to pump up your guy.

And so all this checks out for me.

Yeah, I think when you're having this conversation, you need to extrapolate the quarterbacks from it because, you know, it just, it'd be too hard to not give the quarterback a a nod.

For me, I love watching Bijan.

I enjoy actually when the Falcons are on primetime, it wasn't the most exciting primetime game, but you get to see him and what he can do.

For me, that player is Jameer Gibbs.

I would probably go in that direction.

I think he's the best non-quarterback in the NFL.

Again, if you're not including defensive players, that opens up a whole nother conversation.

But for me, it's Gibbs and then everybody else.

I like the Gibbs pick.

I think that Raheem Morris, beyond the the pump-up factor, is one of the few people that's been able to watch B.

John Robinson off the field and in practice every day and is seeing what he's growing into.

So it's almost for me a little prophetic.

Like this is where Bijan, here's what everyone's going to be saying about Bijan Robinson a year from now, and he's already seen it.

But that said, like I, you're like positionally, it's a really odd argument because like

not from a Browns angle, but Miles Garrett is one of the fiercest human beings in the entire sport right now.

Is he a lesser football player than Bijan Robinson?

Running back angle, I think I'm on board with Bijan.

I think I'm starting to see something very special.

And so I can sign up on that.

All right.

I have an issue with Bijan Bijan Robinson.

Hookum horns.

Love the guy.

But I'm just, look, I want to revisit the name pronunciation thing real quickly here.

Again?

So he was on Sunday Night Football.

And on Sunday Night Football, they played this cool clip of like behind the scene.

You know, they do the little player intros, and they all say their name and their school or whatever.

Here is the clip of Bijan, Bijan, saying his own name three times in a row.

Before you play this, Justin, what were we told most recently was the correct pronunciation?

Because I immediately moved that out of my brain after we last talked about this.

Yes, I actually have that clip too, if you want it first.

He says it's Bijan, not Bijan.

Bijan.

Dijon.

Yeah, it doesn't rhyme with Dijon Mustard, even though Bijan Mustard

is a thing that he's.

Bijan, not Bijan.

Bijan.

Okay, go ahead.

Now that we have that.

Farbuck.

Farbuck.

All right, here is him from Sunday Night Football.

Ellen Moore.

Ellen Moore.

Bijan Robinson, University of Texas.

Let's do it one more time.

Just do Texas.

Okay.

Bijan.

Bijan Robinson.

Yes, Bijan.

Texas.

One more.

Bijan Robinson, Texas.

Okay,

Bijan.

Here is what he said in the offseason.

How you pronounce my name is Bajan.

No.

Somebody that's out there.

Good job by you, Justin.

I don't like it.

This is a conspiracy.

Yeah.

It's Bajan.

It's Bajan.

This is to create an aura around him, a confusion that is maybe attracted to some.

Is it because he's in the, as Wes used to call it, kind of the Bermuda triangle of the NFL, where it's kind of hard to get coverage?

So he's intentionally putting this kind of subterfuge into the air for us to debate Pete.

Is that because that's pretty clear?

That's good reporting.

He's never struck me as the guy that would run his own bit, but that is pretty damning evidence that he's doing it.

I don't know.

That's a weird little quirk about the NFL.

Little side angle.

Let's say you were, you know, a pro athlete.

You're dating two women, and one finds that about the other is like, are you dating Bijan?

She's like, no, I'm dating Bijan.

Oh, okay, cool.

We're good.

You know, it's like a, um, people of a certain age will get this.

Uh, when Steve Urkel went into the machine that he built in his basement, and then he became Stefan Urkell, who was like hot and suave.

So, you had this nerd Steve who was always trying to bang, what's her name?

Laura, and it never happened.

But then he goes into the machine, and then the fog pours out, and he's Stefan Urkell.

And Laura, I think that was her name, was like, I'm all in on Stefan.

So, maybe it's one of those, maybe it's an Urkel situation.

Yeah, what a writer's room that show boasted of.

Quite a come-up for Stefan, too.

You just, you know, you change your look a little bit, you get a makeover, and suddenly you're a hot commodity.

I wish we could all do something like that.

That'd be great.

Justin, can you get the name of the eldest Winslow daughter for me?

All right.

And while you do that.

Poor Justin.

That was a TGIF staple, Family Matters.

It was Family Matters, Step by Step

with Duffy and Summers, R.I.P.

And your friend,

the girl who

didn't she read your screenplay at UCLA or something, Mark?

Oh,

my two dads girl.

Hold on, what's her name again?

No, she's step-by-step girl in this.

Well, that came after.

That came after.

Stacey Keenan, yeah, she read us.

She was the my teacher created different strokes and step-by-step and all these other shows.

So he had access to these people.

And, you know, this little thing I wrote got picked to get red and cheeky was the main lead.

And I was sitting there the entire time because I was like younger, looked like a hot mess in like a flannel shirt.

And I'm just like, that's the girl from my two dads.

And I was like, I literally was starstruck and operated like a wild mental mess the entire time.

So that's how that went.

Good job.

Yeah, well,

yeah.

That was nice.

Uh-oh.

All right, Justin, what do you got?

What's the big news you got?

The oldest Winslow daughter on Family Matters was Laura.

So you said

that was her.

Don't say Laurel or Laurel.

It's Laura.

Well, it's not going down that road again.

I didn't say Laurel.

I said Laura.

Okay, good, good, good.

While you're here, Justin, do we, before I go into this

venomous screed,

do we use AI at all for this program?

Define at all.

I mean,

is there

a potentially small part of an image that we use for branding that was maybe generated by an artificial intelligence program?

Perhaps.

Do we use like any AI video stuff?

No, of course not.

We're real people.

Okay, great.

And also, like, we're not a $15 billion

corporation, right?

We're an independent podcast, right?

Just we are.

Okay, cool.

So I feel like we're in the clear morally on this one, Mark.

What in the f is this commercial that the NFL has been airing?

Hold on, guys.

I actually think this is our year.

Here we go.

Jaden Daniels, Super Bowl.

What?

But no.

When pigs fly.

You rain.

Come on,

the boat said, Caleb and the bears brave beef.

Lions hunting Super Bowls, biting kneecap in a tree.

Blizzard on the field.

We got a 300 goat.

ATL always.

I'm on the dolphin, not the float.

Cut, cut, cut, cut.

Guys, my legs are chafing.

What is it?

What is happening?

Travis hunts a dump for trouble.

Lights out in the black hole.

Yo, cool, ice and cold.

It's time to rock and roll.

John, Josh, hopes you can't end up with.

But you gotta beat the champs, cause you know what it is.

Come on, I'm a folk.

Hey, where I

am.

So,

I mean, that is, that's excessive AI use.

And I just, I guess it strikes me as a little bit,

I don't know.

I guess for a company that's, that's cut so much of its

creative force, maybe that's what's happening here.

But they didn't actually think they were going to get away with this without some level of criticism, right?

The moment when that child who is the Rizzler, a TikTok star, is like large face into screen,

things start to float away from a reality standpoint.

I don't know what to make of it.

I will say, if you go back for years, they've been doing these like hip-hop like rap bits during some games and stuff, and they're awful.

They're awful, and they don't represent the form of music or anyone well.

And so this feels like a LSD extension of of that this was pete this was a ridiculous thing that i laid my eyes on

i'm a big fan of of druski and not such a fan of the rizzler so i had a come up and a come down moment in that 60 seconds and i was drusky the guy in the dolphin was that yeah yeah and i i i think it's probably always smart to not try to force cool when any situation where you're trying to force cool it just it's not going to be cool and i think that that's kind of a microcosm of what this was.

Yeah.

And I do remember the, because it's on top of it's their weird owling, the quad city DJs classic, come on, ride the train

from 96.

I don't know, man.

I just,

we gotta, we have to have a level of awareness.

I don't know who was responsible for this.

You have to understand that you're the NFL.

And if you, um, if you put, roll out a commercial where you're using AI imagery extensively, there's going to be questions about why didn't you pay actual artists to make your commercial

and how much money do you bring in?

That's just, they need, they need,

that entire operation needs

a governor of common sense.

They really do.

I mean,

and they're not.

Those questions have not been asked in some time, the questions that you're asking them to ask of themselves.

And I don't imagine they're going to ask us, Mark, to be involved in perhaps that role.

But if they want to, I would entertain it, but at the right price.

Maybe with all the money they save by not hiring actual artists.

And we're in the clear because, as Justin said, we use it just a little bit.

A little ton.

Not a lot of it.

We're in the clear.

All right, here we go.

Week two fun facts moving on.

Come on on the train.

For the first time since 2020, all five bird teams in the NFL won in the same week.

All right, here we go, Pete.

Name the five bird teams.

Go.

The Eagles,

the Eagles, the Cardinals,

the

Falcons, three.

The Seahawks, four.

Five seconds.

You got to hit me with it.

I can't think of it.

It's a mean little bird.

It's a drunken bird.

It's an Edgar Allan Poe bird.

The Ravens.

Ravens.

So close.

Should have.

Should have had that.

Sorry, guys.

Sorry, Pete.

We're going to have to throw you into a fire pit now.

No.

Don't do that.

Open the trapdoor, Justin, that we built under the.

Where are you right now?

You're at the.

What station are you at?

A-10 Sports Radio.

18.

Suddenly.

It's hot in here, and I'm getting nervous.

I don't know.

Okay.

See?

Yep.

This is a great expense that we built this.

I'm still alive, only I felt

badly both.

Other fun facts.

That hurt.

That hurt.

I pulled this off, I think, the NFL subreddit.

Since Caleb Williams told punter Tori Taylor, you're not going to punt too much here.

Taylor has punted 92 times more than any player in the NFL.

Doesn't pro football have an incredible sense of humor at times?

I guess it's

if you're Caleb Williams and you want to wiggle out of this, you say, well, what is the definition of too much?

Maybe we haven't gotten there yet.

Too much is vague.

Maybe 186 times.

It's true.

That's important to have.

The fascinating thing about Caleb Williams to me, I think there are plays where he looks like Patrick Mahomes, but there are like too many plays where he looks like Jake Delholm.

And I feel like that is the issue.

It's just too

hot and cold with him.

And I also think, like, at the rookie premiere, don't they do these like rookie engagement?

They set up your finances, they teach you what there needs to be like some kind of lesson that you don't make these outlandish, promising quotes early on because you like just don't know even what's around you.

And I think he fell unfortunately victim to that.

Yeah.

Like I.e.

humility.

Save the player from himself, really, generally.

Also, you know, one more item here in

week two fun facts, and it didn't go his way in terms of a gift, but Pete Carroll turned 74.

74.

How about that?

And

one of the photos that's up,

I don't know where, I guess the Raiders sent this out.

And if you're watching on YouTube, check it out.

Just this is the goal.

This is what we're all looking to do.

This is what we're all looking to pull off uh to look like this at 74.

i get why my mom my mom had good taste back in 94

she was a pete carroll fan uh during his um his

had a little crush on him yeah his his one and done season uh under leon hess and the new york jets here we are over 30 years later and that man that man look at that hubba hubba he's uh he's oozing sex and the type of guy that you're going to look at and he's probably going to look in the mirror when he wakes up and say, damn it, it happened again.

And when someone says, what?

He got more handsome.

Got more handsome again today.

Continues.

When you'd go to those owners' meetings and there'd be the breakfast and you've got like, you know, a string of coaches who clearly were out drinking until 5 a.m.

and you can smell it coming

out of their pores.

The Seahawks table always had like a beam of sunlight coming off of it because this is a man who just has a cheery disposition.

And as someone who does not typically have that, I'm starting to think like you better turn that around a little because he is de-aging.

I do think also men,

they've got a little bit of benefit in life with longevity that a guy could reach peak hotness from a certain point of view at like 65.

And that's kind of a little cheat code for men.

Like you might kind of look your worst when you're like 28, except you're young, but like, you might get your style.

You got sex addition?

You got a problem with sex?

This is an

societal observation, right?

I mean, it could be arrow up for a long time, and Pete Carroll is an example 1A of that.

You got a birthday coming up, Mark, huh?

Can't stop those.

No, they don't stop.

Yeah, but you're looking pretty good for a man of your age.

Well, case in point.

Yeah, looks tremendous.

What's your skin routine?

I'm learning more about it because,

you know, Pete, we were talking about how to glow up before the show with our friend Connor.

And,

you know, there's some bullet points that you got to pay attention to.

But I had just mentioned that when you get into your 40s,

you got to start paying attention to that skincare routine a little bit better.

And I never did, so I'm starting to learn slowly that you got to get on this

ASAP

today.

Products.

Products can be your friend.

You know, don't shy away.

The better you look, the better you feel.

You look good, you play good.

That's what I always do.

Pete, you've said it all.

You nailed it.

Meanwhile, in the Middle East,

Tom Brady is coming out of retirement.

Kind of.

To join.

And

what the hell is going on here, by the way?

I'm just going to read this.

Someone's got it.

What in the hell?

Like, this is some like

Illuminati shit.

Really?

Like, who planned?

How did this...

What were the conversation?

Tom Brady is set to join Saquon Barkley, Christian McCaffrey, CeeDee Lamb,

Max Crosby, Rob Grinkowski, Sauce Gardner, Miles Garrett, and others for the

Flag Football Classic, a competitive flag football tournament taking place during,

what is that word?

Justin.

Don't look at me.

Jesus.

R-I-Y-A-D-H ride a season in Saudi Arabia on March 21st, 2026.

Can you look up what that means, Justin?

We seem very uncultured, but we should know what it means if we're saying it.

It will be Brady's first football action since retiring three years ago.

Pete Carroll, Sean Payton, and Kyle Shanahan will be coaching the three teams.

What?

How much is this kind of Pete?

This kind of smacks of what happened with the PGA and

Live Golf or whatever, Live Golf.

That was going to be my point on this.

I think there's one person to blame for this, and it's Phil Mickelson.

Phil Mickelson was the first to kind of normalize this thing.

It was like a Mickelson McElroy back and forth about the dirty, sawdy money and everything that goes along with it.

And look, there's been a very clear initiative to sports wash their international reputation.

And this is just the latest rendition.

I mean it's been Formula One and you mentioned the LIV golf.

It's been WWE and now it's become the norm to just be like, look, they're paying too much.

And I mean

it's it in a way you're like this is terrible, but you also have to put yourself in in their shoes and be like, no, it's not $1 million.

We're actually going to pay you $25 million each.

And for a weekend.

Yeah, I want to know the number.

How many of us would turn that down?

So it's a tough little situation.

Are you even allowed to do this?

Aren't there parameters in almost every contract that bake in certain off-season activities?

And I feel like playing flag football might fall into the middle.

Well, for instance, CeeDee Lamb was given the,

maybe more players have already too, but CeeDee Lamb was given team permission to go do this.

I'm with Pete 100%, and I think we all agree it's like, but where is this leading?

Because let's say this March event is a rating smash hit, and you're corded around Saudi Arabia and every one of these players makes, from what I've heard, Saudi Arabia has a lot of money.

It's just out there as a whisper.

But like,

what if they become fascinated with the concept of American football?

Which they already are to some degree if they're doing this.

Like, they tore golf up into a thousand pieces for a bit.

Like, what, where does this go?

Because, and also, by the way, oh, Tom Brady once again at this, at this, the epicenter of something that feels a little off-kilter, like

Saudi Arabian money handlers.

How about this?

How about the pregame Monday night interview between Tom Brady and damn it, get me again, Turkey Alal Sheikh, chairman of the Saudi General Entertainment Authority.

Is this guy part of IPRA?

The International Power Rankings Alliance?

All right, go ahead.

Take it away, Tom.

This will be great.

It's going to be a global competition like we've never seen before.

And my real training starts now, and I can't can't wait to take the field next March.

I'd now like to turn it over to His Excellency.

Thank you.

It is a pleasure to have you and Leo first of all

one

of

the most popular athletes.

Okay, I can't

I gotta go we gotta get out of this

you gotta see them signing his contract ceremoniously at the end of the day.

No, there's not a

ceremony.

I mean, it's like a ceremonious, let's both sign your contract together.

How does this play in front of a massive American audience in a stadium?

Who?

What's happening?

Here's the contract.

Is he signing in blood?

Yes, he's cut his finger open.

He's signing in blood, ladies and gentlemen.

This is very pro-wrestling.

This is what they do in WWE.

They sign the contract in front of you.

Is Jack Tunney here to

Gorilla Monsoon needs to pop out somewhere here?

Oh, it would be amazing if Eli Banning just like cracked Brady over the back with a steel folding chair.

That would be.

And then he signed the contract too?

And then he beat him in the desert?

Okay, I'm kind of surprised Brady changed my mind.

I'm kind of surprised Brady isn't more locked in on this upcoming meeting about the Bears.

I mean, I feel like he's got to compile those notes for the week after.

Yeah, we were going to talk about that today, but Orr is so fired up about it that we said, let's just stick it in the

rotary file until our Thursday preview show.

All right, quickly, some moves.

This is

if this is about family matters.

It's about Riyadh season,

which is a major winter event, cultural, and sporting festival in the Saudi Arabian capital running from October to March each year.

By the way, Riyadh is the capital of Saudi Arabia.

So we probably should have known that.

But Dan knew that.

Mark knew that.

Pete knew that.

Yeah, we all knew it.

Actually, you're the only one that didn't know it.

You know, for all our listeners, like, oh, the guys don't know anything.

They're dumb Americans.

We knew it.

Okay.

And you can't prove that we didn't know it.

Nope.

The question was, what's Riyadh's season?

Not what is Riyadh.

More news.

Riyadh is the

cap of SA.

Yeah.

It sounds like a big party.

I don't want to go necessarily, but I'm sure it's very festive.

But if Mahomes gets signed and

your editor is like, hey, this is turning into a big global event.

We got to get your boots on the ground there.

You might have to go.

Like, this could

spiral.

One mantra that I do have is I answer to the man.

I'll rise to the occasion if I have to.

Only they'll be flying there in private jets.

You'll be in deep coach,

middle seat,

air saudi, air saudi, propellers,

cigarette smoke thick in the air.

I'd hold Saudi Arabia.

If I survived the fire pit, I feel I can do anything at this point.

You did.

How are you, by the way?

I got to go get some cream for this.

Yeah.

Get some cream on your butts.

All right.

Let's

quick transactions, moves, news here.

This is a bummer.

Justin Fields has been officially ruled out for Sunday's game against the Bucs.

This season is off to a flying start for Jets fans.

Once again, it will be Tyrod Taylor against

Baker Mayfield and the Bucs as the Jets look for their first win, and the Bucs are looking to get off to a 3-0 start.

Good news, relatively, for Khalil Mack, the Charger star linebacker, who left Monday's win over the Raiders with a dislocated elbow ouch.

He's expected to be back in a few weeks.

That looked like a season ender when it happened.

So I'm very happy to hear that.

And you know what?

The Chargers, Mark, I'm in on the Chargers.

They're my team.

So I will now celebrate Khalil Mack being back on a more personal level.

You've earned it.

You've earned it.

I think we can all see that.

So I'm very happy for you and the Chargers.

The Cowboys sign your boy, Mark, Jadavian Clowney.

He's been on seven teams, and

now he's joining the Cowboys as they have now realized perhaps that the Micah Parsons move does

carry some

residual effects in terms of rushing the quarterback.

So we'll see if he can play the guitar.

Speaking of past rushers, Preston Smith signs to the Commanders.

Aaron Jones goes to injured reserve for the Vikings.

He's out at least four weeks, and they sign Cam Akers.

And speaking of downtrodden franchises that can't seem to catch a break, the Bears lose top cornerback Jalen Johnson, likely for the season after re-aggravating a groin injury.

If he needs surgery, which is possible, it's donezo for 25.

The one thing I like about Clowny, I don't know if I'd call him my boy.

I don't know why that got thrown into the mix,

but he basically just admitted that he went to the Cowboys because they have five primetime games, and he can be showcased to probably go to another team next year.

So, well done.

There you go.

All right, let's take a break.

And when we get back, we'll do a little TNF and then we'll close the door on this adventure with the end round.

Stay right there.

All right, we're back.

Ah, man.

Just when I thought that they had figured out Thursday night football and the games are always bangers.

I don't know about this one, Pete Sweeney, because we have, let's use the power rankings, the power rankings of record, HTC power rankings,

to give you an idea of what's happening here.

It's the number 29 Miami Dolphins traveling to Orchard Park to face the number three Buffalo Bills.

And I guess I'll just ask like just a functionality question about if you're looking for competitive games, why not put this game in Miami?

And I get it.

You have Amazon has 47 different people on the pregame show.

All these producers get, you know, and the networks get pumped up.

Oh, we could send them up to Western New York and they could, you know, jump through a table and eat wings and we can get all the establishing shots in Niagara Falls, which I get it.

But this feels like a bloodbath and a game that you might be able to comfortably turn off at halftime, which I know is not what Bezos and the other overlords are looking for here.

No, this feels like one of those old Thursday night football games.

Unintentionally, you know, I think they probably thought the Dolphins would be in a better place, but they just feel like the mess of the NFL right now.

And you have Buffalo, and I know that a lot of people play these survivor pools.

And one of the things that I follow when I'm doing the survivor pool is you never really want to pick a division game because you never know what can happen.

But then you get a Detroit-Chicago like last week, and it just becomes so obvious what's going to happen.

And the Bear, the, I'm sorry, the Bills are clicking on all cylinders.

The Dolphins look like a mess.

The Dolphins have not been good defensively against these receiving backs.

And I think James Cook can go off.

Josh Josh Allen, of course, can do it on the ground and with his arm.

And yeah, I don't know.

It feels like a game that is not worth going out to the pub for.

You might just want to stay home and eat dinner with your family

and do that for this one.

It's, I mean, because you look at the Dolphins and, you know, compared to where we were two years ago, you can't find a bright spot.

The right tackle and their right guard are both out.

Replacement players are playing at league low standards.

Like, so you're, we've got a Tua scenario behind a shattered offensive line.

You've given up the second most points in the league on defense per game.

It's only two games, generated no turnovers.

So it's like, what are we pointing to here that suggests an upset?

Because I always think that weird stuff can happen on Thursday, but that weird stuff usually tends to favor the team that didn't have to fly from their home on like a Tuesday night or something with no practice.

It's like the team that is nestled in their own complex and can get the most of a short week and a healthier team.

And outside of Matt Milano, the Bills, and Ed Oliver's out too for this game, but the Bills are the healthier team.

They don't maybe need those players if the Dolphins perform the way that we have seen thus far.

Let me try to make a case for this game being close.

Let's do this.

Watched the game this morning, the Dolphins Patriots.

And at the very least, we did see some functionality return to the offense.

Tyreek Hill had a strong game.

He had his first 30-yard reception in a year and a half or whatever.

You had a waddle touchdown.

You had Devon Achen making some plays out of the backfield.

So this is a Bills team that did get lit up

on defense in week one by the Ravens.

So, all right, maybe, maybe if Tua gets in one of his grooves, they could put up some points.

But to your point, Mark, the problem is, and you saw it obviously in week one when they no-showed against the Colts, and then in week two um against the patriots they can't block they can't run the ball they can't give two at any time and and when you factor that in with arguably the worst defense in football through through two weeks this very much feels like a four and 13 team and i'll just i'll just this is the last thing i'll say pete and i'll throw it to you um

they're gonna be 0-3 after this game and then they get the jets in week four

if they don't beat the jets who also very good chance they could be an 0-3, I think Mike McDaniel has two games left coaching this team.

So the pressure and the vibes, it has to be really crushing inside that building right now.

So it's a very vulnerable time to send a team to what I think is the best team in football up to their building in a primetime game.

Well, it's interesting that you guys had me on today.

I think timely in a sense, because I've been sort of following the Dolphins a little bit closer than the rest of the 31 teams because of the Tyreek Hill factor and how there's been so much steam of him potentially wanting to come back to Kansas City.

Seems to have another off-the-field situation going on, and he was marred by that in Kansas City.

But at the same time, unfortunately, this is one of the, as Dan, you would say, the worst parts of our league.

When you're as talented as Tyreek Hill, there seems to be a longer leash for whatever you do off the field.

And so I still wouldn't rule out the interest potentially in him wanting to jump ship.

I mean, he hasn't been happy in Miami this entire time.

And what you're saying is, yeah, I mean, I agree.

I think Miami's going to be 0-3 after this game.

If you, you know, lose to the Jets,

again, no offense to you, Dan, but at that point,

it's blow up the Dolphins time.

And so I just wonder, especially with some of the Chiefs' receiver woes, and you're still going to be waiting on Rashi Rice at that point.

Is that when maybe you see something crazy happen where he ends up back with Mahomes?

It's a trope of this show that when there is

a disparaging thing to say about the Jets, it's like, no offense, Dan.

It's like, if I connected my pride and self-worth with the New York Jets,

I would not have a job.

I might not be on this earth.

So, no, I totally hear where you're coming from on that one.

I did that on Sunday.

I said, no offense, Dan, the Bills made the Jets look like a Jets.

And I do the same thing with you, with the Titans, and we do it with the Browns.

We all root for a dickbag team.

So it's like

the reason why we're able to get out of bed is because

we don't connect ourselves as people to the bad teams that we unfortunately root for.

Well, increasingly so.

I think when I was 12, I, you know, wanted to jump out of multiple windows.

At this point, lesser windows.

All right,

we all got the bills on this one, picking this game.

Come on, somebody, some guts.

I have the, I have bills 33, Dolphins 18.

18.

That's pretty good.

Yeah, I'll go 34.10.

How about you, Pete?

Yeah,

I think I'm in that realm.

I don't know if I have an exact score, but what is the spread here?

11-13.

Yeah, I mean, I think they went by two touchdowns.

Like, if you're wagering on the game,

I can't see a scenario where even you get like a backdoor cover and it's scary at the end.

I think it's going to be one of those ugly Thursday night games.

And I just based upon the vibes, yeah.

How about Joey Bosa?

I mean, Joey Bosa has also been a big pickup for them so far.

And if he could stay healthy, he's going to be a difference maker and maybe be the Von Miller that they thought they were getting with Von Miller.

I worry about Tua's health, like straight up.

Like if they can't protect him and they fall behind and he has to throw and the defense is pinning their ears back, it's all like a

toxic stew down there.

He's been there before.

You talk about one of the things the NFL doesn't need again.

It's on a national televised game and Tua taking another one of those, Oh my God, he's dead.

Exactly.

It's right.

Don't want to speak that into existence, but there's a lot in the air that sets up a dangerous situation for that quarterback.

All right.

To win games, you have to win the game,

not lose the game.

Oh, man.

He should be on this show.

That's the case.

He might be available soon.

He might be available soon.

That's the good thing about that, if you want to stay positive.

What was the former head coach of the Colts?

They could fire you, but they can't eat you.

Keep your head up, Mike McDaniel.

Who was that?

Chuck Strong.

Yeah, exactly.

Charles Bogano.

Chuck Bogano.

Before we go.

I think we all agree that.

Oh, I'm sorry, Dan.

I just want to add one point about McDaniel.

Yeah, I don't know if you guys.

Who's the hell he is?

Nerve boy.

Oh, stop it, Rex.

I feel like he's one of those guys that maybe would do a cup of coffee with the media and then be right back as an OC next year.

I don't know.

I think he would land.

Oh, him and Kyle Shanahan,

it's only a matter of time before they're reunited.

He might even, I'm going to go then, I'll go a step further.

It's going to be one of those things like where Sala showed up on somebody's staff last year after he got fired in week four.

I could see him being on the San Francisco staff

almost immediately after the dismissal.

All right.

Before we go, let's check in on, you know,

we played

the dock, you know, doc on Fox.

You know this, Pete, that we've been tracking this program, this program.

Yeah.

And I'm a little concerned about it because some of the stunt casting and plot lines are on my radar.

And now they've introduced this situation.

Here's a trailer for the upcoming episode.

I've been through a car accident eight years, just gone.

Spook hit Doc is back with an explosive season career.

He hates me for something that I can't remember.

I've got nothing to lose.

Doc, special premiere tonight on Fox.

You know, I call it the old.

That shit feels strong.

Yeah, that feels strong.

We've been tracking the ratings on that.

It got a pickup.

It was a loose pickup.

Also, whenever you introduce a gun to the ER,

it makes me a little nervous, Pete.

And then what I'm really worried about is I've been waiting for Matlock as a lady now to clap back and really put Doc on notice.

And here is what dropped this weekend, this past weekend, a week too,

on Matlock as a lady now.

Matlock, yeah.

I could burn this courthouse to the ground

and still have a meeting butterscotch eye hand.

Oh, Matlock returns Sunday, October 12th, part of CBS Premiere Week.

Catch up anytime on Paramount Plus.

Gauntlet thrown down.

Never thought I would say this, but I think I'd rather watch Matlock if I had to choose one this week.

See, that's what I'm concerned about.

Yeah.

That's what I'm concerned about.

But we have no concerns about Pete Sweeney.

You've done it.

You've said it all.

Thank you, sir, so much for joining the Enderound.

Remember, check out Pete on Casey Starr, he's the beat man,

and all the other places.

Where are you on Twitter?

There, Pete?

PG Sweeney.

PG Sweeney, throw the middle name in there.

Pretty simple.

But a lot of Chiefs updates, occasionally commentary on the rest of the league for sure.

Yeah.

And now we just wait to see what Mark does when show business, when the lights go down and then being a real person

turns up.

We'll see if you hear from him.

And if you do, if it feels authentic and organic.

That's what I'm about.

So that's how it's going to be received, I believe.

Yeah, no, I feel even in this short hour, 10, whatever we did, Mark and I, I think we've come a long way, even taking some small steps, but it's significant when we were taking zero, you know, 0.0 before.

So I appreciate that, Mark.

I noticed that too.

I sense hope around it.

And I think, Dan, without your, you know, mediating this, this would not have happened.

So again, this is the peacemaker doing his job.

And remember, Mark, just like a little text Sunday morning, about maybe three hours before kickoff, like, hey, man, I know where you are right now.

That Meadowlands parking lot living the dream, dude.

This is, hey, it's just a kid's game.

And here we are.

We're getting paid to cover a kids' game.

Hey, Pete, did you get a New York bagel?

I know you're from there.

That would be nice.

Yeah, that would be nice.

Forget about it.

Yeah, perfect.

It's easy.

I'm literally going to put this on my Google Calendar.

All right, everybody.

We'll be back in 24 hours with the week three preview with Connor Orr and our TNF recap.

Until then, do what you must.

Heed the call.

Holy shit, cable crew.

If you've been unseasonably sweaty lately, don't worry.

It's not pre-medopause.

Fox and CBS are just cranking up the heat in season two of Doc, and Matt Lock is a lady now.

Our favorite memory challenge: mommy is in the hospital firing guns and killing Terrace, while Kathy Bates is promising not just to work the courtroom, but to burn it down.

Put on your socks and tune in your box because the heat wave continues this fall.