#1059: June 24, 2025

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Knowledge Fight.

Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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It's time to pray.

I have great respect for knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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Dan and Jordan.

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I need, I need money.

Andy in Kansas.

Andy and Kansas.

Stop it.

Andy and Kansas.

Andy in Kansas.

Andy.

It's time to pray.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding us.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a fish-in-color over here, saying I love your room.

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I love you.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes.

Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan.

Dan.

Jordan.

Quick question for you.

What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

My bright spot today, I'm going to say, is actually a fork in the road.

A fork in the road?

No, that's the wrong metaphor.

It's two-pronged.

Okay.

The first is, I forgot this person's name,

but they'll know who they are.

Forwarded me an email after our last episode.

I talked about how I was sad that I didn't have a Switch 2

because I wanted to play Donkey Kong.

Right.

And someone messaged and offered to sell me one at retail value

because they had somehow had another one.

Magic.

And it was such a sweet

offer.

And the message was about

the feelings of

I related to what it's like to not be able to hang out with your buddy Donkey Kong.

Totally.

And it made me realize, like,

I need to, I need to play this Donkey Kong.

So it was a very nice offer.

Yes.

And that, that I, I really appreciated a lot.

Right, right.

Um, so that's one bright spot.

Yes.

And then the second bright spot is I did not take this person up on that offer, but I did get the Switch.

Right.

And I've been playing the shit out of Donkey Kong.

Yeah.

Love it.

Nailed it.

I'm wearing yellow top and brown pants.

Because of Donkey Kong?

Is the closest thing in my wardrobe that I felt was Donkey Kong

themed?

Is that to record so you can get a little Donkey Kong into this episode?

Oh, yeah.

Okay, all right.

Whoa, I don't know how I feel about that.

My chest.

That may be a little too aggressive.

I am not a Donkey Kong.

I have gotten through a fair amount of this game, but I think there's still a lot to uncover.

I've found Cranky Kong and Ramby, Rhinoceros.

Who's your favorite Kong?

Dixie.

Dixie is your favorite Kong?

Yeah, I think so.

All right.

What about you?

Oh, I mean, King, obviously, top of the list.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, okay.

All right.

How does he fit into the family?

That's actually a really good question.

Because the original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong.

Right.

But I mean,

you have to expect that because of the Kong moniker, they are somehow related to King Kong, right?

They're giant apes.

Yeah.

The Kong, it's got to be King Kong.

So is King Kong the progenitor?

Is he the oldest of the king?

I think it must be, or at least, like, he's an uncle or something.

You know, like, he's in the mix

Somewhere in their lineage, right?

Right, right.

Yeah, I don't know.

I know a lot of their familial relations.

You know, I know how their family tree works, but I don't know, because I don't think Nintendo owns King Kong.

Okay, so I don't know if he can legally be a part of the family.

So he's brought over from Skull Island to the United States

early, early, what, early 10s, early 20s, somewhere around there,

put on display, climbs the tower, grabs the girl, et cetera, et cetera.

Now, are we saying that the girl and the Kong, and now we have multiple Kongs?

Is that what we're saying here?

You mean, like, terms of like

did they get married, right?

Yeah, yeah, that's what I was, that's what I was thinking you were getting at.

Yeah, sure.

Why not?

I don't know.

And that's how we get Donkey Kong who's crazy.

Donkey Kong gets great.

Yep.

No, I don't, I don't know.

Uh, who's your favorite Donkey Kong in the canonical, uh, the Donkey Kong franchise?

Um,

I will tell you this.

I think you don't know.

My memory, no, my favorite is Diddy.

And my memory of why is fairly simple.

Playing Donkey Kong Country, I would always wind up losing Diddy, and he would go, and then you jump on the box, and Diddy would reappear.

You throw a barrel.

Or whatever.

You jump on a box to get Ramby or espresso.

Fair enough.

Fair enough.

You throw a barrel.

So you throw a barrel and then without skipping a beat, he does a little flip, gets right back behind you.

I don't know why that.

I always appreciated that a great deal.

He's loyal.

Yeah, he's having a great time.

He's ready to go.

He was just like, ah, no big deal.

I fell on those spikes.

Yep.

I would always play it with my brother.

And I was always forced to be Donkey Kong because I was a big boy.

I was a thick young boy.

Sure.

And he was more of a smaller, agile, cool

guy.

So he was more of a Diddy.

He was a Diddy dealer.

He was cooler because he's the young guy.

I mean, you know, he was the 90s.

If you have a hat, you are cooler.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so I always had that, I always felt forced to beat a donkey.

But then I kind of made peace with it.

Now you wear it as a badge of pride.

Yeah, but then the second game came along and we were introduced to Dixie and she could do a propeller with her hair.

That is pretty cool.

She could float a little bit.

Yeah.

She's way too cool for all of it.

But I'm enjoying the hell out of Donkey Kong Bonanza.

And

it's such a good thing to be playing while I listen to InfoWars.

Yeah.

Because you're just punching.

Because you're smashing shit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're just breaking walls down and rampaging.

Fuck you.

Yeah.

Fuck you.

It's very cathartic

in that setting.

Nice.

So what about you?

What's your bright spot?

My bright spot?

Tyler the Creator's dying.

Tyler the Creator's got a new album.

Okay.

Great.

He's someone who has a very interesting career trajectory.

He does.

He does.

A very strange one.

He's someone who I don't really know a ton about.

Yeah.

But I feel like he went from like horror core kind of stuff to

much more artistic, much more high

aspirational.

Yeah, I believe it started with Odd Future Wolfgang Kill Them All,

which was him and Earl Sweatshirt and those cats.

And then he did Goblin, which had that one song that everybody was like, ah, he's so scary.

You know, that kind of thing.

And then he did that for a while and everybody was kind of like, ah, that's kind of boring.

Then he came out and started doing all kinds of different stuff.

And everybody's had a great time since then.

Interesting.

Yeah.

What's the new album like?

Like,

how's the genre, like, what would you describe it as?

So he had a couple, so few albums back was more of an RB album.

Yeah.

A few albums after that was more of a hip-hop album.

The last one, I think, was more of a rap album.

And I think this one's more like a just general hip-hop vibe kind of thing.

Okay.

More hooks.

There were hooks.

You like a hook?

There's some hooks.

Great.

I like that song, What the Hook Gonna Be?

What is the hook going for?

By Murphy Lee from the St.

Lunatics.

I ask because

he's a really interesting type of

pop culture presence.

Yeah.

That you say Tyler the Creator has a new album out.

Yeah.

And I don't really know what to expect that is going to be.

That's interesting.

I think that's a really cool thing.

I think I would take that as a compliment if I was him.

Yeah, it's kind of, I feel the same way about like when Andre 3000 would put out an album.

It's like, I don't know exactly what this is going to sound like.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah, and then it, and then it turned into a flute.

Then it turned into a flute album.

So

that doesn't always go the right way.

And if you're going to do a flute album, you've got to call Jethro Tall.

You do have to.

You got to call Ian Anderson and get it done.

Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that album.

Yeah, it's good.

So today we have something not as enjoyable,

but maybe is horror core in a way.

Nice.

Nice.

And that is June 24th, 2025 of Alex's show.

Okay.

As we watch a disintegration happen

basically throughout this entire timeframe.

He's killed Gene Hackman, which unleashed a demon that might be possessing Donald Trump.

The United States is in a civil war.

The world is maybe in a civil war.

Donald Trump seems to be going back and forth from wanting regime change in Iran.

It's very confusing.

Yeah.

But we may have stumbled upon our saving grace, which is that Donald Trump is no longer in control of Donald Trump.

It's possible that there's a walk-in.

Right?

Yeah.

We've got a walk-in situation.

Well, we don't know for sure.

We don't know for sure yet, but this changes everything.

He's been dealing with the flesh quite a bit, and that is a way that demons can get inside you.

Everybody knows this.

Right.

So we have this possibility.

Yeah.

And we'll see what kind of horrific anti-Semitic garbage we see on this episode.

Great.

Good news.

Good news.

Spoiler alert and warning.

Oh, great.

But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

Ooh, that's a great idea.

So first, Bad Bob.

Thank you so much.

You're now a Policy Wonk.

I'm a Policy Wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Next, my wife and I communicate by sending secret messages through this show, and this is a birthday message to say happy birthday.

Thank you so much.

You're now a policywonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And Bad Tad the Rad Lad.

Thank you so much.

You're now Policy Wonk.

I'm a Policy Wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And we got a technical credit in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much to Pumpkin Face Mix Slut Pants from your best friend.

We'll be better tomorrow.

Thank you so much.

You're an Iowa Technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy Shark.

Bomp, bomb, bump, bump, bump.

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.

I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much.

Yes, thank you very much.

So before we get going on this garbage-ass episode of Alex's show,

I do have an out-of-context drop.

All right.

And it made me very sad.

Well, damn,

you're the only reason we're on air.

We are literally in a toe-to-toe battle, and I want to keep fighting.

And it means so much to me.

It means everything.

I mean, the most important thing to me is staying in the fight, literally.

So when you do that, you are everything.

God bless you, brother.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Wow.

That would be, that is identical to a Joker to Batman speech.

we are going to do this dance forever.

This is what I want.

This is what I really want.

I don't want to win or to lose.

I want to fight.

Yeah,

it's a weird thing to hear in a false context.

In reality, there was a caller named Dan who had bought one of the products.

Very different.

Very different.

And yet you can edit it out of context.

This is great.

This could become his thing that he edits out of context to predict that he was always going to be fighting you.

Chase is going to put this into a drop.

It makes perfect sense.

So we start off the episode on the 24th.

And I will say that most of this episode is Alex whining about how everyone is saying that he's fake MAGA.

Everybody's so mean to him.

Because he was against the idea of striking Iran.

Right.

He's like, oh, now I'm an imposter.

And he is just mad.

I don't like the Mudas.

They're a dictatorship.

My goodness gracious.

I want a total moratorium on all Muslim immigration.

I want to deport

all the ones that are here illegally.

Every single one of them.

Boy, I'm a known Islamophobe, just like I'm scared of rattlesnakes and black widow spiders.

Yep.

Wait.

You got those phobias for a reason.

Wait.

And, but, oh, the Microsoft CIA Mossad group, we'll be getting to later.

They say I work for the Ayatollah

of Rock and Rola.

Not Chris Jericho.

The red-blooded

31 years on air.

I'm not from the family that raised Colonel Travis's son.

I'm not from the family that literally wrote the Constitution and started the whole war in a long-term 10-year project under Andrew Jackson.

Both sides of my family weren't on the Mayflower.

I'm not related to the inventor of the stock exchange, Lord Gresham.

Wait.

Of course, I'm all that and more.

Are you?

You can't get more Americana, but I'm an Iranian spy.

These people are

Israeli sock puppets is their technical name.

That's what the Israelis call them.

And I don't want to see Israel destroyed.

I don't hate Israel.

Just like I might like my neighbor.

He's a friendly guy.

Go for barbecue.

I don't want him to come over and say, hey, buddy, I'm going to bend your wife over and fuck her in the ass in front of you.

Wow.

That seems aggressive.

You don't run my line.

God damn.

You don't run my country.

And Israel, people are sick of Netanyahu and they're sick of your games.

And so I don't like the Moolahs and I don't like you either.

Talk about your leadership.

Sure.

It's like, yeah, another gross analogy.

You're out in some

parking lot and you see some rotten hamburger meat on the ground with maggots in it.

And then you see

a a used tampon on the ground, and somebody's like, Which one would you like to eat?

How about neither?

Excuse the gross analogy, but that's that's what this comes down to.

And you've got Iran's the rotten hamburger with maggots in it, and then you know what Netanyahu is.

Yep, a used tampon that's been up Satan's ass.

All right, I'm going to stop right there.

Is that where he puts tampons?

Forgive me, I'm really angry right now.

Lord, I apologize, family audience.

I'm just so real.

I can't help it.

Seems real.

Seems very real.

How about that?

Gross.

How about that?

That's fucking gross.

How about that?

That whole clip.

How about that?

How about it?

How about that clip?

Yep.

So Alex referenced a Microsoft CIA report, and that'll come up later.

Sure.

But that was basically about

people using false flag narratives in order to disseminate Russian and Iranian state-backed media narratives.

Right.

And Alex isn't involved in that report at all.

He's not even mentioned.

But he's got so mad about this.

He's just like, fucking these people saying I'm fake MAGA.

Lord Gresham.

That's American.

I mean,

the laundry list of things that he thinks are supposed to be Americana boda fides.

It's just white capitalists.

Yeah, I mean, I don't even think I want most of those things involved in American.

Sure, but

the lineage is just white capitalist.

It's not Americana.

Yeah.

Is a stock market Americana?

If you're talking about a 10-year plan under Andrew Jackson,

there are only so many plans Andrew Jackson had, and there are only so many 10-year periods where he would have power to have plans underneath him.

They weren't good plans.

None of those were good plans.

They were white as hell, though.

They were very white plans.

And I think that's the bona fides that Alex is responding.

I think there's a part of it that's like, I'm so white.

I am a member of the people who finished off the Native American genocide.

You owe the West to me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's interesting because this protestation that he's making is silly.

Yeah.

But it is based on him having a point I guess I don't disagree with, which is we we shouldn't go to war with Iran.

So, like, it's very strange that he's getting heat and blowback from people online because of his opposition to war with Iran.

Yeah.

And he's responding in this way that is disgusting and is like,

you guys don't think I hate Muslims?

You think I don't hate Muslims?

I do.

I mean, I absolutely do.

I am so white and scared.

What I immediately thought of, and I don't know why this happened,

I think it had something to do with him being like, and this was because you were afraid of rattlesnakes and spiders for a reason.

But I immediately had like a daytime talk show, 90s kind of Sally J, Raphael kind of situation.

And they're like, we're dealing with phobias today.

And I don't know if you, do you remember the one where they had a lady get into a bathtub filled with spiders?

No.

Definitely not.

Okay, well, they were trying to, they were doing immersion therapy.

Are you sure this wasn't an episode of Fear Factor?

Could have been a dream I had.

But the point is, I just immediately had a vision of alex getting into a bathtub with a but with a bunch of muslims and i think he would be fine i don't think there's anything to be scared of counterpoint we've already seen him freak out about uh women at a pool supply shop that's fair but he wasn't forced to get into a bathtub with them pool supply shop is pretty close to bathtub really close to bathtub yeah almost

both in cold water yeah

so we get to talking a little bit about this report sure this microsoft cia report yes you you people it's like it's high school or junior high, and you're at the cool table, and you look at the OGs

who are absolute thoroughbreds of this fight, been through hell to do this.

And you say, oh, those are the imposters because the Israeli bots said so.

Next, you're going to tell me two men can have a baby and there's no X and Y chromosomes.

I am.

So I'll come back.

Actually, I'll go to the Trump clips here in just a moment, but

Steve Bannon, imprisoned for defending the president, one of his top advisors.

Demonized.

MTG, most attacked in Congress, being the president, says, I think this is a bad idea.

Oh, she's a traitor.

Tucker Carlson, for over 15 years, woke up at the neocon, said he was wrong supporting the wars.

Blown up, flying out of Pakistan and Afghanistan, covering the first month of the war in Afghanistan, a war reporter, they put a bomb on the plane, blows out the bulkhead, kills a bunch of people.

They crash land on the edge of the ocean.

He almost dies.

You never heard about that because he doesn't talk about it.

Oh, but he's a wimp.

What's he know?

What's he ever been around?

He just spent years in the Middle East in war zones.

When he was 17, he was sent down to live with the Contras and fight the communists

by a CIA high-level dad.

Oh, what's he know?

He was just in the jungle in battles when he was 17.

Guess you didn't know that.

And then Alex Jones, I mean, who's this guy?

He just walked into town.

We don't know anything about this guy except he's an Iranian spy.

Pathetic, disgusting talking points.

Chirped out, chirped out by Microsoft and Netanyahu.

I'm going to get to the proof of that coming up.

Those are the people you don't listen to.

Those are the people that are just taking money

to be imposters.

Notice, Iranian and Russian impostors have taken over MAGA.

They say me and others.

And now, and then they use bots and MAGA impostors to try to take it over and turn the Trump movement, which is the populist American forefront.

He's riding the wave of that, the silver surfer, the golden surfer.

And they try to transmute all that and turn it into now Netanyahu and Liz Cheney are MAGA.

So, Alex really should, Tucker should kick his ass.

Yeah.

This is not, like, if any of this is true, like,

this is really not what we need to be out there in the public if you're Tucker.

Yeah, absolutely not.

Because his behavior in the past few years looks really fucking shady if he is a lifelong CIA agent and asset who is a child soldier with the Contras.

You know, I think this is the thing I think that happens with America and war stuff is that it like blinds us to them being people.

Like once you become soldiers in a war situation, it's like, ah, you're a soldier.

You know, it blinds you to being a person.

And so, when somebody like Alex goes, like,

when he was a teenager, he was in the jungle fighting, and he thinks, like, look, look, that's how strong he is.

But what he's telling me is that they have psychologically traumatized this poor human being and now have unleashed him upon the rest of us.

None of what he believes is real.

He's an absolute psychopath.

This is terrifying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If he was 17 fighting in the jungles

with the Contras, then he's like, that's not day one stuff.

No, that's crazy.

That'd be enough to drive you crazy.

Right.

And there's stuff that predates that.

You know, like, there's stuff that leads up to that that is like this person cannot possibly have had a healthy childhood.

No.

They are.

Okay.

Or,

how about this?

Have we, let's go back further.

Is this a last starfighter situation?

Was Tucker Carlson so good at playing a video game about fighting the Contra in the jungle?

No, because he got this position as a 17-year-old through his high-level CIA dad.

Yeah, that doesn't help.

Yeah, no.

This is

someone who has been okay-ultra.

Why haven't you

dealt with the relationship between you and your father if he puts you in...

There's no way you can deal with that.

Man, I would be pissed.

There's no way.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Uh-uh.

Get out of my life, man.

So this stuff that Alex is talking about, it all goes back to a report that was put out by the Network Contagion Research Institute titled False Flags and Fake MAGA, How Foreign and Inauthentic Networks Use Fake Speech to Destabilize the Right from Within.

Naturally, with a name like that, you could see how Alex would take it personally, but this report isn't about him.

It's not, it doesn't involve him at all.

It was published on June 18th, but from the report, quote, our analysis indicates that recent high-profile cases, including Uvalde, Crocus City Hall, October 7th, the Trump shooting, and other domestic attacks, triggered an immediate surge in online false flag discourse, emerging emerging within minutes of initial reports and aimed at recasting the events as evidence of hidden conspiratorial plots, thereby obscuring the true motives and perpetrators.

In the days following these crimes, Kremlin-affiliated propagandists and Iranian state-linked media were able to rapidly inject narratives that were taken up by MA imposter influencers, who then injected them into MAGA-branded spaces, often within minutes of breaking news.

In the report, they specifically call out Nick Fuentes, Jake Shields, and Jackson Hinkle, but they don't point out the fact that all of these people have been on Infowars, which would have been.

I mean, if Alex, if he wants to take this personally, that would be the angle to do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's getting defensive about this and saying it's about himself, Tucker, and Bannon, but this report doesn't mention them at all, which seems weird.

He seems to be throwing himself into this for no reason.

Yeah, I mean, I guess in a way it implicates all of them.

You know, it is just essentially like

everybody now knows you can throw a grenade into the right-wing Twitter sphere, and Lord knows what's going to happen.

It's calling out a game that Alex definitely profits off of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So you could kind of see why he would be interested.

If anything, I would be angrier that they have turned it into a like streamlined, technically sound project

or like injecting bullshit into America.

Is it like there's teams of people who do it?

within minutes they have it done they've got all this pre-worked out they've got scripts written so this will happen across hundreds of bot accounts at the same time like it shouldn't be that easy yeah and if you're Alex you're probably also like thinking the fact that I'm not in this report makes me seem less relevant right right there is of course I don't have as much reach as like Nick Fuentes right

there's the personal element of pride yeah so maybe you would lie and say that you're in the report because it's it's almost like a mark of pride.

I am important enough to be in here, okay?

Yeah.

Getting flack means you're over the target.

Right.

And if you're not getting flacked, then you have to pretend that you're getting flack.

Otherwise, you are really not relevant.

Uh-oh.

Yep.

So this is one of the major pieces of discussion on the show.

And another one is Alex being really mad that people are saying that Trump works for Qatar.

Oh, yeah.

They're now saying Trump's in bed with Qatar.

That trope that Qatar has any propaganda or power.

We have a giant base there.

Totally in a U.S.

government's hip pocket.

And then now Trump doesn't want a war.

And so now he,

he's a traitor.

Trump is a MAGA imposter.

Put it back up.

Trump.

Trump.

No, Netanyahu now turns.

That's all Netanyahu talking points.

And you see that everywhere.

You see it everywhere.

Emily

Blebler or whatever her name is.

It's all the same.

Israel, do not drop those bombs.

If you do it, it's a major violation.

Bring your pilots home now, Donald John Trump, President of the United States.

Some people say that Trump is in bed with Qatar because he very obviously is.

Their government gave him a plane worth about $400 million a couple months back, around the time when Trump's son Eric announced a new Trump International Golf Club was in development near Doha.

Weird.

His business interests are inextricable from his foreign policy actions, and that's not even taking into account the fact that his attorney general, Pam Bondi, used to be a registered lobbyist for Qatar at a firm that you used to work at, Ballard Partners.

That firm is run by Brian Ballard, who is a lobbyist for the Trump organization in Florida from 2013 to 2016 and a top fundraiser for Trump's campaigns.

Seems like if this were Biden, Alex would probably say that it had been declassified and proven and admitted in the congressional record that Trump was on the Qatari payroll.

This is plenty of evidence for his standards.

Yeah, I mean, one of the great things about this, right, is like back in the day, I remember people having to have arguments about, oh, is this corrupt or is this like, oh, and Citizens United is opening the door for corruption.

This is the single most for sale the government's ever been.

You can't argue with it.

Shit is on the block.

Yeah.

Yep.

No conversation.

Alex says like America is open for business.

He means that in a way.

Oh, baby.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You also might notice that Alex is citing someone that he called Emily Blebler.

Who is Emily Blebler?

It's actually a person named Emily Schrader, who's an Israeli-American journalist.

Okay.

She reply-tweeted to Trump saying that Israel needs to not bomb anymore, saying, quote, someone is in bed with Qatar, which is what Alex is yelling about.

He's yelling about tweets.

Yeah, I mean, you can't, I get it.

I totally get the instinct to be like, this is the real world, so we should be like, hey, you can't do that, but come on, buddy.

It's, we're way past that.

He's in bed with Qatar.

Yeah, obviously.

He's in bed with like 50 guys right now.

Right.

Yeah.

Well, but there's like, you know,

it seems stupid to just yell about a tweet.

I agree.

Yeah.

I agree wholeheartedly.

And I think that that's kind of what all of this is.

This show is just basically him getting mad about Twitter.

And now the Israeli CIA, Stay Behind Network, Microsoft bot farms, and fake influencers that are following the talking points are now saying Trump is a MAGA imposter.

Not just Tucker Carlson, not just Dee Bannon, not just MTG, not just Alex Jones.

No, Trump himself.

I just showed it's everywhere now.

He works for Qatar as if Qatar has any real propaganda push.

It's a minion of the United States, a giant military base.

What the hell does that mean?

So when Alex says, I showed you it's everywhere, he's talking about that tweet.

Our podcast has basically just become watching the effects of Twitter addiction manifest in an old man.

It is a very strange sociological experiment.

Yeah.

This used to be about

far-right tradition,

the John Birch Society legacy, all of this intellectual conspiracy propaganda shit.

And now it's just a cautionary tale about

thinking the Internet's real.

You know,

it is interesting because

you read studies on it, and there's a lot of self-reporting.

There's a lot of like looking at Internet stuff.

There's a lot of conversation.

There's a a lot of interviews.

There's a lot of this.

But we are getting a very specific portrait of this phenomenon, which I think has affected everybody, right?

To some degree, to some degree.

There is absolutely somebody in your life who has done this.

Yeah, whether or not you're experiencing the kind of things that Alex is clearly struggling with.

Yeah, yeah.

You've dealt with the ripple effects of someone else.

Yep.

It's been foisted upon your life.

Yeah, yeah.

And it is consuming.

It is consuming, which is what I think everybody responds to is like, if you're, if somebody is, is saying some bullshit, you go, ah, you're saying some bullshit, but this consumes you, and then everything is about this.

Yeah.

There's such a noted difference too between like earlier time Alex and this.

Like back in the day, he would like go and bullhorn people

and like be sitting at an editing dock and like really trying to make something.

Now I don't see any evidence of anything other than looking at Twitter.

I mean, he needs an intervention.

Like, genuinely, I believe that this is an addictive situation and the level of an intervention.

Well, but that's the thing: is like before there was the booze, sure, and then now it's this.

Right.

And I think booze is better.

Absolutely, booze is better.

Listen, we're all gonna die, and our bodies are going to disintegrate someday.

I would rather go out one way than fucking Twitter addiction.

I hate to say that alcoholism is less dorky than Twitter addiction, but it kind of is.

It's really nerd shit.

Come on, step up.

Yeah,

come on.

So

Alex is mad at these people who are saying that he's fake MAGA and that Benjamin Netanyahu represents the real MAGA.

And he seems to be particularly mad at Jewish voices.

It's wild how that happens, yeah.

And now Mark Levin

is attacking President Trump.

Of course he is.

He didn't support Trump early on.

Ben Shapiro didn't support him.

No, no.

They are the imposters.

Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin.

They've always been neocon bootlickers, anti-American trash.

They're not Americans.

They're globalists.

They're power brokers.

They're Lakudniks.

And they think you're stupid.

Alex isn't really being subtle here at all.

And any unbiased observer should be able to see the kind of slide that this show's content is on.

This isn't about Levin or Shapiro having political positions that Alex disagrees with.

It's about them being two very high-profile Jewish men in the conservative media space.

This kind of shit isn't being directed at people like Charlie Kirk when he has a disagreement with Trump over something, or Candace Owens.

This is very much dependent on them being Jewish men.

Yeah.

Jewish people.

It feels like the

okay.

It feels like there has not been any kind of explicit agreement with everybody, but everybody has dipped their toe in here or there until the point where I think this region knows where the wind is blowing.

To the point where.

When you say region, you mean like right-wing media.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right-wing media.

That is like, okay,

this is where it's going.

Whether we believe in this, whether we're as racist as we are going to sound right now, doesn't matter because this is where the wind is blowing.

This is where the money's going to be.

Yeah, and I think that one thing that's really illuminating is, you know, years ago when Alex's texts got revealed, one of the exchanges that was in there was between him and Millie Weaver.

Sure.

And she was warning him after he had had Nick Fuentes on the show the first time that she had hung out with Nick and his fans and they were actually Nazis.

Yeah.

And he should not hang out with them.

Right.

And that's great.

But the other part of what she was telling him was that, like, these are young people.

They don't even buy your supplements.

Yeah.

Like, this isn't even going to raise sales for you.

So why are you trying to cater to this audience?

Yeah.

And I think that that mathematics has changed.

Yeah.

That maybe a lot of those people who were buying the supplements died from COVID because they didn't get vaccinated.

Maybe a lot of that market is now they have to chase it.

And online, Twitter would lead you to believe, oh, well, we got to go Nazi.

These are the people who are getting big numbers.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And that report that Alex is complaining about kind of illustrates that.

Nick Fuentes is named in that.

Alex isn't.

Everybody's doing a pivot to Nazi.

You know, it's, yeah.

Yep.

Yes.

Fucks are for sure.

Yeah.

So Alex feels like he's been

shit on a little bit.

Sure.

Maybe pissed on a little bit.

Sure.

People saying he's false MAGA.

He's a fake MAGA.

Yeah, but he's not.

He's not.

He's the best in the business.

The whole business?

Yeah.

He's the Tom Brady of this shit.

That's why when they get the Rockefeller Foundation documents and others, they go, how does this guy know our plans?

Who does he work for?

When the Democrats sued me for years in Discovery

and sued my employees and would offer them money, they'd say, in the depositions, who does he work for?

Who gives him the talking points?

Who's his boss?

They go, it's him.

They'd oppose my dad.

They go,

who creates the Jones show and the things he says?

And how does he say the the things he says?

He goes, oh, it's all in his head.

That's, you quote, CNN.

David, Dr.

David Jones, Alex Jones' father, says there is a plan, there is a boss, and it's Alex, and it's in his head.

So, see, the bad guys, no, I'm on them.

Remember the headlines seven years ago?

The new chief of staff's main job is keeping Trump away from Alex Jones.

Why would that be?

Sir, you have three board members of George Soros' group in your White House.

No, I don't, really.

You didn't know about Fiona Hill.

You didn't know about bleep, bleep, bleep.

Bleep, bleep, bleep.

We all knew it.

Emily, bleep, bleep, bleep.

Tell him because they were scared of the repercussions.

They had 60-minute programs with Fiona Hill crying in Congress, but I was mean to her.

No one was willing to go after him.

And I'll go after the globalist Soros deep statement around Trump, and I'll go after the Lekudniks and Benjamin Yetan Yahoo.

And

if they ever got Russians around him for real, I'll go after them.

What about Elon?

The ChiComs are all over the Democrats and all over some of the Republicans, Mitch McConnell.

I just tell the truth.

It's so easy.

The truth and integrity are not my North Star.

They are my prime directive.

It's all I do.

I couldn't shut up and stop telling the truth if I had a gun to my head.

And that's why you're told I'm the imposter, I'm inauthentic, I'm the fraud, because I am the real McCoy.

And I'm attacked, and I'm not even happy about this because it's so dangerous, but I'm the best there is.

Steve Bannon says it.

I think he's about as good as I am or better in ways.

I'm just saying, there's not many of us.

General Flynn's about as good as you get.

I'm the best there is.

And

it'd be like if you're Tom Brady in his peak and suddenly they say you're not a football player, we're kicking off the team.

You go, I just won the Super Bowl.

And they're like, I don't want to brag on Tom Brady, but I'm not.

You've never been on the New England Patriots.

And I'm like, yeah, I won like all these Super Bowls with him.

No, no, you didn't.

No, this 60-pound person

that's three feet tall is the best quarterback in the world.

And you're like, the person can't walk.

They're in a wheelchair.

Well, nope, nope.

That's the best football player on the planet.

and just all this mad dogging those are Israeli bots those are Microsoft bots know what they are

and these idiots will get us all killed this is really fucking sad because what's actually going on here is that Alex is yelling on his show about how people on Twitter don't respect him enough that's literally what this is yeah They don't respect my credibility and my career and what I've done.

I'm Tom Brady.

This is just a man bleeding out his insecurity on camera.

And I honestly felt a little embarrassed watching it.

Like, if you are Alex Jones, you should not feel this desperate to be validated.

You are Alex Jones.

You are.

You were Alex Jones.

I mean, look, I don't know about.

Alex seems to think that, like, continuity isn't real in life.

And yesterday doesn't relate to today.

That's fair.

That's fair.

But I do.

I believe that the past led to the present.

Sure.

And so he is still physically the person who was Alex Jones.

Fair enough.

You don't need to be like this sad that people on Twitter are mean.

You snuck into Bohemian Grove, asshole.

Here's the thing about

the bots, right?

Because this is a problem for people, I think, who talk about bots.

If

you say that this coverage that is negative is bots, then you must also accept that sometimes the coverage when it's positive is bots.

Meaning, it doesn't matter anymore either way, because you'll never know.

You can't know whether the feedback you're receiving is real.

Sure.

Yeah.

And I think that the,

I don't want to tip all of my cards too much, but I don't really think that this Network Contagion Research Institute report is good.

Yeah.

I don't think that it's, it's, I read it.

It's not very, I don't, I don't agree with it.

I'm a little dubious of it.

Yeah.

But one of the when it was talking about bots, it's talking about like Nick Fuentes would post something about some attack being a false flag.

Right.

And then tons and tons of replies would just be spam emojis of like 100 or whatever.

Totally.

They're saying this is indicative of bot kind of behavior.

Right.

And I'm not sure if that's 100% true, but it definitely could be.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Some is, some isn't.

It's, it's like,

it's not the dead internet theory.

It's the garbage internet theory.

It's all

garbage.

Yeah.

It's just there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It could be inauthentic or it could be authentic, but what it means is identical and that's nothing.

You can't know and that robs it of meaning.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, um, but so, but that is to say that, like, I'm not sure

when Alex is talking about bots, he's not even talking about what this article or the report is talking about.

Right.

So I don't even know how to assess it.

Right.

No, I don't mean it in like in the way that he's talking about bots being real.

I mean it in the way that he's feeling about it in that negative coverage is all coming from false things.

Yeah.

But if you believe that, then you also have to believe that positive coverage comes from false things.

You know?

Yeah.

Like it has to work both ways or it doesn't work.

I think he doesn't really care.

He's just complaining because it doesn't, it's not going in the direction he wants.

Exactly.

That's really what the complaint is about.

It is.

It's not about bots.

I want people to like me and respect me.

I broke into Bohemian Grove, assholes.

Right?

So, all that being said, I'm pretty sure that we're literally the only people who covered Alex's dad's deposition.

Absolutely.

When he said that CNN talked about it, there's no other conclusion I can come up with than he thinks we're CNN.

Yep.

Because I had to get that deposition.

That wasn't like, I didn't cover CNN covering it.

We're the only people who cover depositions, period.

A bunch of those.

Yeah.

They did not get any coverage outside of us.

Inexplicably,

inexplicably,

depositions are our thing.

Yeah, I think

maybe the Kit Daniels one got some press because he cried.

Yeah.

I think the Paul Joseph Watson one got some press because he said that Alex lied about Sandy Hook.

Sure.

I think that maybe the Owen Schroer did because he said he was a puppet.

Right.

Maybe.

But none of them

have more than between 30 seconds and three minutes of video coverage or a clip or something from there.

It is taking one small thing out of context and then writing bullshit.

You know?

Yeah.

We're the only people who would actually listen.

Yeah, so that seems weird.

Yeah, it does seem weird.

So, Alex, a lot of his targeting is at Mark Levin in this episode.

Yes.

And so he complains about Mark Levin a bit here.

Let's go back to what Levin's saying.

Oh,

Trump doesn't want regime change, so the sleeper cells are set to hit us any minute.

Let's put that Mark Levin tweet back up, please.

The Iranian terrorist embeds are here and have been here.

11 arrested by ICE.

They're here because Biden and the Democrats invited them in with open borders.

We said so at the time.

Quattarlson, Tucker Carlson's now now works for Qatar.

Quattarlson and his ill will blame Patriotic.

I would give up our president and our military

words.

Oh.

Put up the date again.

He says that this morning at 8.50, at 8.47.

Oh.

The Iranians are going to hit us.

And

Tucker Carlson

is going to say it's a false flag.

That's funny, Mark.

I'm the one saying that.

Why don't you just say my name?

Oh, damn.

Oh, damn.

So, you might notice that Alex is just complaining about something someone tweeted again.

Yep.

Twitter complaints and Alex's feelings are pretty much this entire show at this point.

It feels like it.

You might also notice that Alex is doing a mocking voice when he reads that Mark Levin tweet, but it's exactly the same stuff Alex says.

He spent so much time on his show saying that Iranian sleeper cells have infiltrated the country, but now that Mark Levin is saying it, it's somehow stupid and you got to do this cartoon voice?

Yep.

The key to understanding this is that Alex doesn't care about the what.

He just cares about the why.

He isn't worried about Iranian sleeper cells being in the United States.

He just pretends it's a huge issue when he needs to use it as an excuse to push a narrative that he wants to sell.

The reason that Alex is mad is because Levin is doing the same thing.

Levin favors regime change war with Iran, so he's trying to present a scary image of what the price of not carrying out that war would be.

He's trying to create the impression that we need to go to war with Iran because if we don't, they'll activate these sleeper cells.

For Alex, the Iranian sleeper cells storyline is an anti-immigration talking point.

He wants to create a scary image of terrorist sleeper cells invading the country because he wants the audience to be suspicious that any immigrant might be a member of one of these cells and therefore should be deported.

Both of these dudes are using the same means to pursue a different end, but they're also dishonest actors and they don't really care about alleged sleeper cells.

Levin wants to use the fear he can create around this issue to justify going to war, whereas Alex wants to use the fear he can create around it to justify white nationalist immigration policies.

Alex doesn't want the fear that he's built around this subject to be redirected in a different direction, so he has a need to attack Levin.

But because he does no preparation and knows the audience that he's talking talking to is stupid, he ends up mocking Levin on the show about the point the two should agree on.

Yep.

Both of their propaganda campaigns rely on believing that these sleeper cells exist and they are an imminent threat.

So this response that he's doing seems counterproductive.

And it's just really good that anybody listening to his show and taking it seriously,

they have to be gone by now.

Yeah.

So he can just do this.

Yeah, I mean, it is

two men, like,

arguing over a fire hose, like, oh, no, point it this direction.

No, point it this direction.

No, point it this direction.

And it's like, I don't know.

Well, it's like, but with the hose, they're like, I want to spray this dog with it.

And the other person's like, I want to spray this kid with it.

I want to annoy someone and jeopardize someone's safety this way or this way.

Yeah.

It's fucked up.

Yeah.

So it's nothing compared to what comes next, though.

Okay.

Alex does a long,

long act out of Mark Levin hypnotizing his audience.

Oh, boy.

And those very same bots

are now attacking Trump directly and calling him

Qatrump.

Quattrar Trump.

Boo!

Carlson or Tucker.

How would you combine Trump and Qatar?

Don't tell me Twump.

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah.

Quatrump?

Quattari Trump?

Mailed it.

Quatar Trump.

Good.

You'll be hearing that soon.

Doubt it.

Will you?

Trump is an imposter.

Trump is not real.

Trump is not MAGA.

Trump is not good.

Ben Shapiro is MAGA.

Mark Lovin is MAGA.

Benjamin Netanyahu is MAGA.

Trump has nothing to do with MAGA.

I'm surprised he doesn't have a gold watch out on TV going like this.

Look into my eyes.

Watch the watch.

Watch the watch as we swing the watch back and forth.

Go to sleep.

Let me hypnotize you.

You love all the wars.

There's WNDs in Iraq.

La la la PAC doesn't have any power.

If you question anything the Israeli leaders do, you're going to hell.

Jesus said, always do what the Pharisees say.

Watch the watch.

Watch the watch.

Watch the watch.

There you go.

You're getting sleepier and sleepier and sleepier.

Yes, Mark Levin supported the lockdowns and forced injection.

Yes, Ben Shapiro did.

Yes.

Yes, yes, yes, they hated Trump.

Yes, they were never Trumpers.

But now,

now they will tell tell you who the good people are.

They will tell you who you can trust.

They will tell you who you have to listen to.

Good,

good.

Who is MAGA?

I don't know.

Who am I?

Oh, or we're adding another character.

Benjamin Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and me, Mark Levin.

Say it with me now slowly.

Trump is an imposter.

Trump is the imposter.

Is this a new character?

It's good scene work.

That's insane.

Yep.

You would never be able to convince me that Alex didn't know that the idea that Jewish people hypnotize the public is a giant historical anti-Semitic trope.

He's not unaware of that.

It wasn't some big mystery back in 2019 when Infowars was criticizing Ilhan Omar for tweeting that Israel had hypnotized the world.

He understands this perfectly well.

He knows what the fuck he's doing.

And you see this back and forth in the show's content over the last weeks or so.

Like one day it's profoundly anti-Semitic, and then the next day it's back to him pretending that the last day didn't happen.

He's engaging in these outbursts and then bringing the temperature back to normal because he's trying to get the audience acclimated to this kind of content without scaring people off with Nazi salutes and swastikas.

This is a marked departure in his content.

It's where the wind is blown.

And that is only half of that impression.

I'm not going to play the rest because it's more just

to hypnotize.

That's a long.

Here's.

Okay.

Let me try and.

Okay.

What this feels like is the modern version of being trapped at the breakfast table with a guy who writes letters to the editor.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, this feels like in the morning, I've woken up, I'm trying to eat cereal.

Somebody opens the newspaper and is just here, you hear that crack, right?

And then he goes, oh, so now they're going to say this shit about me, you know, and then starts drafting a letter.

But I kind of feel like i'd rather be around that guy because you can't hit refresh on the newspaper absolutely you know like there absolutely he has to have a second hobby no that's i mean i was i was thinking i was thinking about it wistfully like remember when it would end at the letter the letter would be sent to the editor it would be printed in the newspaper maybe there's something cathartic about like putting the stamp on the envelope and they can be like well I can't possibly expect them to respond immediately.

Sure.

Now I can take a breath.

I will see you guys next week.

Yeah, but Twitter, it's just, it constantly refreshes.

Okay, great.

Okay.

All right.

Fucking immediate.

Yep.

Awful.

But yeah, Alex is definitely taking a shift towards the neo-Nazi.

It's undeniable.

Like these things keep happening.

And I think that he's trying to signal very clearly that this is a choice that he's making.

And one of the things that I think is one of the signals is the choice that he comes in, the song he plays

coming back from break after this really long hypnotism riff.

So we're witnessing just incredible

developments right now, ladies and gentlemen.

And I can't wait to get Nick Fuentes on

in the next hour

to get his take on all of this.

Yeah, he's going to have noted Nazi anti-Semite fuck Nick Fuentes on, and he's coming back in over No More Mr.

Nice Guy.

He's like, no, I'm going to be the guy that I've pretended that I wasn't

my whole career.

Yeah, I've said that the globalists, I didn't mean Jew, but fuck it.

I do.

I mean, now I'm literally calling prominent Jews globalists in a one-to-one, as everybody told me I was doing in the past.

Yeah.

And I think a little bit later we'll get some more indications that he knows exactly what he's doing.

Yep.

But he's not just mad at Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.

Sure.

There are other Jewish people.

Why not?

Like Laura Laura Loomer.

Oh.

He spends a long time

complaining about.

So I love the bots and the

Laura Loomers, who I've never done anything to, who's just mad dog.

Like, I'm taking screenshots, anybody criticizing Trump and I'm giving it to him.

Please.

Please, next time he goes see Trump, don't worry, I'm getting him stuff too.

Please take him what I'm saying right now.

Please, sweetheart.

Plus, Steve Mannon had me do it and got it to Trump last Thursday.

I can get him him on the phone too, cupcake if I want to.

Already been invited to dinner up there.

Didn't go.

Because, see, I'm not into the pageantry like you.

I'm not in the cool kid club.

Never have been, never wanted to be.

I wouldn't be part of any organization.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

So bad.

See, I create the paradigms.

I create the future.

I don't try to

sit like a bird on a perch higher than another bird like cockatoos do, so I can feel more powerful.

I don't dislike black tie dinners.

What are we doing?

Quite frankly, I'm a married man.

It's a little tempting, so I got to stay away from that.

What?

That's why I don't go on the road a lot and go a lot of places and things, because I got my weaknesses, and I'm a good person.

But the point is, is that

I am integrity.

Look, I'm integrity, but I like to fuck.

I

can't not fuck.

You cannot be integrity and also be like, if I leave the house, I'm going to fuck a stranger.

I'm going to fuck someone.

I'm going to fuck the stranger.

I don't know.

Could be anybody.

I go to a black tie event.

I'm going to fuck.

I'm going to fuck.

I'm going to fuck.

I'm going to fuck.

If I go to a black tie event,

I am going to fuck.

So, because I have integrity, I won't go.

That makes sense.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

No notes.

I, I,

okay.

If you ever find yourself in the,

I am the creator of dreams.

I am the one who is controlling the weather.

I must control the,

you know, I can't leave the house without fucking.

Like, if you find yourself in a situation where you're giving that speech, re-evaluate.

Step back.

Stop.

Have somebody nearby.

Maybe just have a friend whose only job is to notice if you are giving megalomaniacal speeches.

Maybe that friend's name is Tito

and he's made of vodka.

That is possible.

Maybe.

Take a drink.

So

Alex is mad at Laura Loomer because she's like, I'm going to snitch to Trump that you guys aren't loyal enough.

I'm going to tell daddy.

And the real irony is that

there's a good chance that Laura Loomer wouldn't be in the position that she's in if Alex hadn't also helped foster her career along the way.

Yeah.

So, you know, you guys are dealing with your own problems.

But he's really explicit about how he just wants to fight with her for attention.

Oh, my God.

I saw, I've seen like thousands of posts by other people.

I'm gonna get you, I'm gonna report you.

Well, good, we can take all the publicity we can get.

That's ridiculous.

Go back to me real quick.

Yeah, there she is calling Tucker Carlson a raging Jew hater.

All right, let's just stop right now.

Yes, let's.

Let's just stop.

We can stop.

I like Laura Lumer.

Oh, goddammit.

She just got a little

excited,

kind of on a power trip.

She's all bush.

I'm getting screenshots of every one of you and I'm going to give it a Trump.

Gee, you think somebody on X that's getting millions of views, us billions, but other people, millions,

do you think when I posted a picture of Trump saying what we voted for and then a picture of George W.

Bush, what we're getting, then I said, I hope this isn't the case.

Do you think when that got like 8 million views or whatever, last time I checked, and then posted everywhere else so you can't count it,

it got put on the national news?

Do you think I was doing that to hide it?

Do you not think this is an attention business?

He's pretty much just laying out an engagement farming strategy here.

So on this day, there's a schism in the Trump base, with one side preferring war with Iran and the other opposing it.

Each side is made up of people with different agendas, some of them bigots, some of them politically motivated.

You know, it's a combination.

It's not a big tent, but it is a tent.

Yeah, but for the most part, the conflict in the right wing on the 24th is over this wedge issue.

The landscape for Alex has to be looking good because there were two sides arguing on social media about who the true Trump fans were.

This whole episode is really just Alex trying to pick a fight with various high-profile right-wingers on the other side of the issue, all in hopes of getting more people to tweet about him and respect him more.

Yep.

With that aspect of what he's doing in mind, that whole hypnosis thing from earlier really takes on a grotesque dimension, where Alex is weaponizing anti-Semitic tropes specifically to get a Jewish man to call him anti-Semitic, which Alex can then pretend to not understand.

It's sick shit.

This dude needs to get off Twitter because he's trying to be a Nazi for attention.

I mean, I don't know.

I don't know.

He probably also means a lot of it, but it's also an attention strategy.

Like, but you know, okay, how about this?

He literally had Kanye on his show when Kanye was doing what he's doing, you know?

Like, I'm going to be a Nazi for attention.

Yeah, but way more confidently.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

These people,

honestly, Kanye did it first.

Kanye turned into a Hitler lover before you do.

You guys are following Kanye.

Yeah.

What a weird turn of events.

Quite sad.

Yeah.

And actually, Ye, it's interesting that you bring him up because Alex is complaining about Laura Loomer.

You used to like Yay.

What now?

What now?

Gotcha.

And then Laura Loomer.

Oh, she loves Ye.

And she used to love Nick Fuentez when she wasn't in the entourage of Trump.

Oh, she was smiling and laughing, you know, next to a guy saying he loves Hitler and wouldn't even dare challenge him on it because she was so scarce talking about Ye.

And now I tell Ye's full of crap sitting right there.

Because I know all about Hitler from the the real history and the deep stuff.

But oh, now Tucker Carlson, though, he's a secret Nazi.

That's right.

He's got a red armband.

He's got a Nazi swastika on his ass.

That's called bullshit.

And it's called hypocrisy.

I mean, Laura,

you run around

with people that put out music videos saying how Hitler

got him.

Boom.

Yeah.

And then you're going to say Tucker Carlson's a Nazi as if that hurts people.

Tucker Carlson's not a Nazi.

He's sophisticated.

He's an American.

He's a populist.

He doesn't.

I don't like Hitler.

He doesn't like totalitarianism.

Wait.

That's why I don't like Hitler.

Oh, that's why?

Is that the only reason?

Seems like it.

So this is just another instance of Alex trying to bait a Jewish right-wing media figure into fighting with him by drifting a bit into anti-Semitic territory.

It's a wild thing to see play out so clearly in front of you, especially when Alex is slamming Loomer for formerly hanging out with Nick Fuentes when Alex is going to have him on the show later.

Like,

what is the dunk that you're making here?

Oh, you think you can just call anybody a Nazi?

Well, I'm a Nazi.

You think you're too cool to hang out with Nazis now because you actually go to the White House?

Okay.

All right, fine.

This is sad.

And it gets disgusting.

Okay.

I will honestly say that it gets disgusting.

All right.

has a little bit of a flight of fancy about Loomer.

Oh, that's no good.

So I'll quote Jesus

Loomer.

And I'm just singing going around as an example.

I can't wait for her to attack me.

I'm really looking forward to it.

Jesus was being accused of being evil and sinful by a Pharisee.

Maybe it's a Sadducee.

And he says, hey.

Why don't you get

the beam out of your eye, the two by four, before you tell me about the speck in mine.

So, Lord, I'm just putting you over my knee here and spanking you.

I know that's what you've wanted, and you've been mad I haven't given you that, but that's okay.

But I'm metaphysically putting you over my knee right now and giving you a spanking.

So, the context of that whole eye plank thing, it's from Matthew 7, and there's no Pharisees or Sadducees in that story.

It's just a regular guy.

Yeah, just a regular.

I'd be interested to hear Alex explain the difference between those two groups, though.

I wonder if he has any idea who the Pharisees and Sadducees were.

Oh, God.

Nope.

So, also, this is just disgusting behavior on Alex's part.

He's more or less sexually harassing Laura Loomer on air.

Sexualized threats and Bible verses in the same minute.

It's impressive.

And guess which one comes from his heart?

Hmm.

Because it's not both.

I mean, this is very Spanish Inquisition.

I'm feeling very Spanish Inquisition about these people.

It's not good.

Laura Loomer's just mad.

I wouldn't fuck her.

I mean, that's very

gross.

That was pretty Spanish Inquisition, if you ask me.

This dude's gross.

So

we shift off the sort of sexualized threats territory, and I think this is where the show really

just takes a nosedive.

You cannot

sit in

Kanye West's lap during his beginning of his I Love Hitler tour.

Sure.

And prance around like a gremlin at their feet.

And then suddenly be, you know, wearing giant stars of David, which is really the seal of Solomon.

Not the star of Rin Fan.

I love...

People go, oh, you're covering up star of Rinfan.

No, it's the seal of Solomon.

And it's even worse than all the idiots out there say it is.

They just never get it right.

It's the seal of Satan that seals the demons in.

But you can't ever get anything right.

Not the Nazis.

Not Not the crazy Zionists.

None of you.

Fools.

You know nothing of history.

So Remphan is the name of the pagan god worshipped by some Israelites who were led astray in the wilderness, which is covered in Acts 7.

The text says, quote, Ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch and the star of your God Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them, and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

It's a pretty well-known anti-Semitic conspiracy talking point that this verse proves that Judaism is actually Moloch worship.

And so that's the thing that Alex is against.

Sure.

But what's interesting is that he seems to reject that anti-Semitic smear in favor of a more extreme one.

And Alex's version of the Seal of Solomon stuff is about as extreme as you can get.

This dude is

only not a Nazi because he just finds them disappointing, apparently.

This is real, real fucked up.

Yeah,

I mean, when you get into, when you see people get into a hypocrisy fight,

and there is no bottom, because they're both so emblematic of the very concept of hypocrisy,

it's hard to even look at them without the brightness of their hypocrisy blinding you.

You get weird shit like this.

Like, what are you doing?

Yeah.

Like,

it's so strange

to hear Alex be able to get mad about this.

Yeah.

Like, what is the correct anti-Semitic conspiracy interpretation of the Star of David?

He has strong feelings about these fools who think it's the Remphan version, but no, it's the Solomon version.

It is like listening to people argue about deep lore of like

Star Trek the next generation,

but then also using it to justify horrors.

Yeah.

It's fun when it's just Star Trek.

Yeah, just argue about Star Trek.

Do not also, and then be like, and of course we need to subjugate.

No, no, no, no, no, no, you don't.

No, you don't.

No.

Star Trek doesn't teach that.

Yeah.

So I think that we're pretty fully off the rails at this point.

Okay.

It's in the Bible and in the other ancient texts that it's the seal he came up with to seal

other ancient texts.

That he was using to control things in black magic.

And it's Jewish mysticism.

So yes, the star of David is not the star of David.

It is the seal of Solomon that seals Satan.

And you go, oh, you mean it battles Satan?

No, it controls Satan.

Ooh, because that works.

What?

Yeah, you've heard Smoly.

We wrestle with God,

Israel.

It means.

And we are even greater than you, God.

Remember that clip we played last week of Smolly?

Ooh, that's dangerous.

That's some.

And then see, oh, and we control Satan too.

Yeah, well, I ain't trying to control God or Satan.

I've got defense against Satan through Jesus Christ.

But it isn't me doing it.

It's Jesus Christ.

So you guys go ahead and run your mouths.

Now, you control God and you control Satan and, ooh, ooh, you're so powerful.

Yeah, you think you're in control.

Bless your soul.

We should come out with Narls Barkley.

Bless your soul.

You think you're in control?

You don't even know what you're dealing with.

My dad explained when I was about eight years old the seal of Solomon.

He said it was important to understand how all the secret societies operated and what was at the heart of it.

I just believe my dad.

I later went out and researched it.

But it's hard to find that information because the profane,

that's what the other occultists call everybody else.

The Jews call you the Goyam.

And see, here's the thing.

People go, oh, God, the Jews, they call us Goyam, they call us Goyam, they call us.

All the cults call everybody else profane.

Like dog crap.

Be lucky the Jews just call you cows.

What are we doing?

What are we doing here?

You see, I'm trying to get you to not act like a cow.

I said we were off the rails.

This is a fucking mess.

And I think that when Alex says, like, my dad taught me this when I was eight, and then I researched it.

He just, like, he listened to Mystery Babylon.

I mean, that's it.

He's just listening to Bill Cooper's dumbass and all these fake books.

I'm telling you, if we had a time machine,

I just feel like

a lot of things would go completely different in our world, completely different if somebody showed up at Alex's house when he was like seven and told his dad to like knock it off.

Yeah.

Like, hey, leave the kid alone.

You know, like, much like is the message of the Bible.

Knock it off.

Hey, knock it off.

David Jones, knock it off.

David, knock it off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wonder, like, that's the mystery that we'll never really be able to solve.

And apparently, Alex's dad is in poor health.

And so maybe he'll never give a full tell-all interview.

But there is this lingering question of how much of that is real, like what his dad did imprint on him from a young age,

all of this sort of crypto-Nazi bullshit, right-wing nonsense, and how much of it is Alex creating these stories about what his dad taught him.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't.

But I'm just saying that going back in time and stopping him might not solve the problem.

But something would.

These people are nuts, man.

That's just what he just said

is objectively crazy.

Yeah.

To the level of like, we shouldn't allow you to be out in a car because that's a murder weapon.

You know, like that is scary to listen to a person say that.

And it really implies a level of rank dishonesty throughout his career.

Oh, absolutely.

If he's like, this is what he's believed since he was eight or whatever, like there is so much pretending to not be an anti-Semite throughout your career that you have to unpack that.

Yeah.

Why did you lie about that?

And actually, Alex does give an answer later on.

No, so look forward to that.

All right.

But he's really excited about the possibility that people will take him out of context.

Yes, that'll be

truly.

Yeah, it's engagement farm.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yep, there it is.

The ring of Solomon to command demons and spirits.

So that's what it is.

King Solomon said it.

He'd studied all the seals and conjured thousands of demons, including Satan himself, and married hundreds of wives to study their different occultic religions and even involved human sacrifice.

And he said, that seal

commands Satan.

Oh, we're having a history lesson today.

Laura Limmert, tell me about anti-Semitism now.

Oh, how's old Ye doing?

Don't need help.

You got it.

You nailed it, buddy.

I love

Hitler.

Watch the left will take that out of context.

Say, Jones is loving Hitler.

Good.

Put the lies out.

People just come and hear the truth.

Hitler was an occultic loser.

Set up by British intelligence.

It's all on record.

You can go find out about it.

Well, I'm convinced.

So Alex is essentially begging for people to take him out of context on this episode.

He's saying insane anti-Semitic shit and targeting specifically Jewish right-wing media figures, and he's desperate for someone to call him anti-Semitic over it.

When he says that the media is going to cut him out, say, I think that I love Hitler and take that out of context, he's fantasizing.

That's what he's doing.

He's just hoping someone does that.

Ah, God, I'm going to make some money off that.

Yep.

This is something that I haven't experienced in a bit, but this episode feels like it's entirely meant to be bait.

Yeah.

This doesn't make it any less horrible, and Alex's shit is still awful, but his goals are very transparent.

Like, this has the same kind of feeling as the, I'm going to eat my neighbors.

Yeah.

Like, that episode is such bait.

Yeah.

It's, it's meant to get coverage that then he can yell about it.

See, look at what they say about me, and yada, yada, yada.

Yeah.

Create an attention spiral out of it.

And he's doing that, but he's just doing it with like...

Tada, the reveal is it's the Jews.

Yeah.

It's

what?

What's his, was it Kid Rock, the Rolling Stone article about how Kid Rock was was trying to do a whole thing?

Saying the N-word.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the guy's like, I'm not doing this, man.

I'm not following this.

And that's what this feels.

It feels like you're trying to shock me in such a way that makes me go, like, that's, that's,

come on.

It is shocking.

And, like, it's not, it's not something that I want to just brush aside as look at this attention-seeking client.

Sure, sure.

You know, but at the same time, it's, you can't take it outside of the perspective.

Like, you can't understand what he's doing without understanding also that it's meant to provoke.

It's meant to

create a negative response that profits Alex.

Yeah, this is, this is, it is, what, okay, there's the type of bigotry that is hatred towards the other.

And then there's the type of bigotry that is, I am going to manipulate my in-group.

at the other's expense.

I don't particularly, I don't give a shit about who the other is, anybody.

I'm trying to harm my in-group with this bigotry.

Yeah.

But I'm just using the allure of bullshit.

And I would argue that this is both.

But

it's fundamentally

because it's public speech and communication.

It's fundamentally the second one.

Sure.

Like, it's primarily and most dangerous as the second one, as opposed to, like, whatever Alex's actual feelings are.

Yeah.

And that sucks.

It's no good.

No.

Nope.

So Trump's cool.

Okay.

It's just the cult members that are inside his administration.

Which cult members?

I don't know.

And the good news, like specifics.

Trump, because I know Trump very well.

He's very smart on business, very smart on a lot of stuff.

He'll admit, even eight years ago, he didn't understand a lot of geopolitics.

He didn't understand how DC worked.

He's learned a lot, but he still thinks these people are briefing him correctly.

A lot of them are just acolytes.

Heg Seth is not a bad person.

He's a combat vet, highly decorated.

Why not?

Fully brainwashed by the Lekudniks.

Same thing with Carrilla, the head of CENTCOM.

So when they give him these briefings,

they are

members

of the cult.

They drink the Kool-Aid.

And they told him, sir, we know where the uranium is.

We'll get it.

It'll stop them.

And he goes in, and now his very same advisors the media turn on him the ones saying do it do it do it it's so easy just fly right over you know a few bombs oh no we didn't get it they moved it out which of course i said wasn't gonna be the case which i directly warned the president with last week

and

then netanyahu says no we're not doing regime change and i showed you all these sock puppet influencers and i'm going to show you what nick foreign is coming up right now

the NGO Israeli sock puppet Microsoft group that put the talking point out that that you're not real MAGA, you're an imposter if you don't do whatever Netanyahu says.

Now those groups are saying Trump is on the payroll of the Qataris.

So, this is where the thread of the show really came together for me.

And I think that Alex is either selling broadcast time or he's so lazy that he'll just do whole shows for other people if they give him talking points and like a skeleton.

Sure.

When this episode began, I was pretty confused about why Alex was getting so defensive about that alleged Microsoft CIA report that wasn't about him.

It came out six days prior, and I don't think it's been brought up on the show until this point.

It makes total sense now, though, with the context that Nick Fuentes is coming up on the show.

Yeah, Nick was named in that report.

Alex doesn't really give a shit about this report.

He's just doing all of this content on Nick's behalf, but he's trying to make it seem less like that.

This is like what he's doing by making it about himself and Tucker and Bannon.

This is this is like, I think when you look at what this show is, this particular episode,

it seems like it could all be explained by Nick having four requests for Alex.

And that is yell about this report that mentions me, deflect about Trump's connections to Qatar, harass Laura Loomer, and be a real anti-Semitic dick.

And those are all four things that are primarily what Nick wants.

Yeah.

And

I don't, I hate to say, like, this really, really feels feels like brokered spawn comments.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it really does.

Yeah, I mean,

it is inauthentic at the very least.

It feels a bit like when

you find out the first time

that people who go on late-night shows, the anecdotes have been very,

very like meticulously poured over and tightened.

That whole exchange on the couch.

Yeah, that's been written out well in advance, you know, that kind of thing.

That feeling of,

oh, this is, this is all

like it's, it feels stupid to say, but it's like, in, in many ways, this is supposed to be all an act.

In one way, it's not supposed to be.

And in this way, it is, you know?

Yeah.

And I think that I, I don't particularly, I mean, I care, but I think it's less

problematic for me when one of his episodes is very obviously like, oh, economic turmoil.

Oh my god, all of these storylines, and then that's a feeder into his gold sales guy.

Right.

Because that's just a kind of a pump and dump.

Yeah.

You know, like that's just a financial scam that they're running.

Yeah.

And I think that when the episodes are that, it's not really all that interesting.

Yeah.

But this is, it feels like the same thing, except instead of selling gold, it's Nazi.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that's shit.

It is, it is like a, it is, I am going to, I'm going to promote Fuentes as a way of regaining relevance, like by, by associating with this prevailing wind Nazi, I'll kind of have something there.

Um, and then, like, the profit

is, is just,

I want these Nazis to buy my pills.

Yeah, I don't, I don't, and that's, that's where my fundamental confusion is.

Yeah.

And it's something that I can't answer without like private documents of Alex's.

Yeah.

But like, is it sincerely just a trying to tap into this other market and chasing the popularity of this young Nazi?

Yeah.

Or is it like Nick is paying to be on the show?

Right.

To try and poach Alex's audience.

Right.

And I don't know.

I, in the past, would have been much more reluctant to

think maybe there's like he's paying to be on the show.

He's just straight-up brokered, yeah.

Yeah, but I don't know anymore.

I have no idea.

How could you?

Yeah.

Yeah.

This shit's crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And this, this episode is like, it's so notably bait.

It's so notably anti-Semitic.

It's so down.

It's like a Nick episode.

You know how like Lost has.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a bottle episode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is a self-contained anti-Semitism episode.

And that's a large, like, it feels kind of similar to the last time Nick was on.

Yeah.

That felt like an anti-Semitic bottle episode, too.

Yeah.

And it really feels like

there's at least an influence, whatever Nick is doing.

And if you wanted to be like, this is how their structuring goes, like, if you wanted it to be Alex going, I am going to try and say some really inflammatory shit.

So that'll get people like listening when you come on.

That kind of idea is that, okay, now I'm now people will find a way to like, oh, shit,

he's saying it real.

Yeah, we'll hit the NAS.

Exactly.

Hit the gas.

Yeah, yeah.

And that'll be right whenever, you know, everybody, all the numbers will come in right as we crescendo to your interview.

Yeah.

It's gross.

Whatever the motivation for it is, is disgusting and

toxic.

Great guys.

So

Trump, good guy.

Good guy.

Good guy.

They're all great guys.

He doesn't want regime change.

No.

Today.

Wow.

I'm going to shut up now and go to Nick Fuentos.

But

to me,

this is very positive that Trump finally gets it now, says, okay, no regime change.

I'm really mad at the Israelis.

And hopefully he's how he always operates.

And he gets roped in.

And so I don't know what Nick's going to say.

I follow him almost every day, but I didn't watch what he said last night.

I pretty much do every day.

At least I catch some at night or I catch it in the morning, but I did not today.

Seems like Trump's policy on regime change shouldn't be a day-to-day thing that

he keeps getting tricked about.

That seems like bad leadership.

The thing that

people sometimes think that things are excuses when in fact they are disqualifying failures.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, oh, no, this is what happens.

He gets roped in.

Do you mean he's fired?

I'm firing you.

I'm firing.

What are you talking about?

Is that his catchphrase?

You just get roped in.

What?

Yeah, you don't get roped in.

That's not.

You can't.

You can't.

You cannot.

Yeah, you're the leader.

Jesus.

Also, pretty embarrassing for Alex to say that he watches Nick's show every day.

That's definitely not true.

But the funnier part is Alex being so clear that he didn't watch today, so he has no idea what Nick's going to say.

Yep.

Just in case he has to distance himself.

Yep.

Like, Nick still could go too far, and Alex is keeping that door cracked just a little bit.

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Keeping my eye on the door, making sure I have a clear path.

Yeah,

that one's classic show biz, that old, like, hey, I love this guy.

I'm a huge fan, watch his show every day.

Didn't watch today.

Weird.

Yeah, you'd think I would because he's on the show, but it's weird.

Yeah, he might be on one.

Yep.

Who knows?

Wild.

Um, so I noticed uh in this exchange, we we track the monkey behavior uh dominance hierarchies of Alex and Nick.

Yes, and Alex is full-on subservient.

Okay, Nick is alpha in this exchange.

Wow.

For sure.

Well, Nick Cointez is

a very exceptional young person.

You can agree or disagree with some of the things he says, and I do, but he's 26 years old.

He's been on the political scene nine, 10 years, exploded onto it.

And all I've done since I was 10 years old is study, not all I've done, but I mean, I'm big in geopolitics.

And I've talked to him.

Don't forget I thought I had family that was all into it.

Some family was in intelligence and things and were anti-establishments.

So I grew up, you know, John Birch Society people, all that type of stuff.

So I had a real leg up.

We're listening to Nick.

His family really wasn't even into politics.

I don't know how he got so informed so quick.

But imagine when he's 51 how much he'll know.

Hopefully we're not here and haven't blown ourselves up or AI hasn't killed us all.

But Nick, there's so much to unpack here.

So let's go through it here.

And I want you wherever you want to.

We got a lot of time here.

I appreciate the time.

This episode has an entirely subservient energy that Alex is displaying for Nick.

And you can feel that even in how he's comparing himself to Nick.

This isn't Alex saying something like, one day if you work real hard, you might be the next me.

It's him saying, this kid is going to be so much better than me one day.

Look at him.

When he's my age, he's going to be amazing.

And make no mistake about it.

Ever since Alex has known Nick, he's known he's a Nazi.

Millie Weaver texted him about hanging out with him

with Nick and his fans and was like, they aren't joking about this.

She complained multiple times to him that Alex shouldn't associate with Nick.

So there's no way that he can fake some kind of ignorance on this.

Like, he's full-on, like, I'm breaking the glass or whatever.

I'm just, I'm, this is fine.

This is paternal.

Yeah.

This is paternal at this point.

My Nazi son.

Yep.

I'm proud of the boy.

I'm so proud of this boy.

He's going to be the quarterback.

Yeah.

Yep.

I want to be the dad that teaches this kid about the seal of Solomon when he's eight.

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Gross.

That's so gross.

So Alex is clearly

supposed to bring up this Microsoft CIA report.

Right.

Right.

Because he set the table for it earlier in the episode.

He started to build the narrative.

And now the payoff is supposed to be Nick complaining that he's in this report.

Right.

And Alex doesn't bring up the report before Nick has a chance to bring it up.

And you could almost feel Alex being like, oh, I'm so sorry that I didn't get to that in time.

This is a stop.

I'm going to give you all the time you need.

But since I was about to launch this and you launched this, I just want to preface it for everybody.

This is a big deal.

Okay.

I was waiting for this.

This is actually the biggest thing we were going to talk about.

I was about to go there 10 seconds before he just threw it out, which I'm glad you did.

But let me explain.

A publicly Israeli-funded-run, Microsoft, USAID-funded previous.

People say, well, Trump's in.

No, it's front-loaded with CIA funding to these NGOs.

They come out

on

June 14th,

right before the attacks, and all this rolls out.

Then right when the attack happens, they come out with the New York Post, which is, you know, an Israel mouthpiece, basically, and say

there's all these Russian and Iranians attempting to destroy Trump, and it says they're imposters, they're not MAGA, which then all the people being paid, the influencers, the bots all put out.

But then when you read the report, report, their main threat is there's going to be terror attacks and things.

And when those happen, we don't want anyone to say it's a false flag, which now Levin and all the rest of them are saying.

So right as they're about to launch the attack, and then the days into it, they put out the big reports all over

that Alex Jones and Nick Fuentez and all these people and Tucker Carlson were all just agents and everybody else is a bot boosting them, and they list us all, and they're worried we're going to say there's a false flag.

And then Mark Levin goes, don't worry, we're still going to war.

We're still going to take over Iran because the Iranian sleeper cells are about to hit us.

But look out, Tucker Carlson and his ilk are going to say it's a false flag.

So here they are preemptively getting ready, literally Israel and the deep state.

And it's all right there.

I mean, you talk about telegraphing.

It almost makes too much sense.

It almost does.

Yeah, so just to say this before I get into any of this, I have no interest in defending the Network Contagion Research Institute.

I've read the report that Alex and Nick are talking about and looked over a little more of their output, and I think the NCRI may be a little bit of a dubious source.

To give you some sense of what I mean, in March they put out a report titled, How Online Extremists Hijacked Christ is King, and the second author that's listed in the contributor section is Dr.

Jordan B.

Peterson.

So this is maybe not serious, not a serious outlet.

That being said, all of the stuff that Alex is saying is incorrect.

The NCRI is not run by the deep state or funded by Israel.

They did partner with the ADL's Center for Extremism for a series of reports, so there may be some relationship between the two groups, but I'm not sure how deep that goes.

Alex has presented no evidence that there's U.S.

aid funding or any of that other stuff, so I'm going to leave that to the side because there's a bigger problem.

Alex said they rolled out this report on June 14th in anticipation of the attack, so they could preemptively discredit people who called things false flags and brand them as MAGA impostors.

The problem is that the report was released on June 18th, so Alex's timeline's a little bit screwy and convenient for him.

Wow.

Alex further claims that he and Tucker were listed and called agents in this report, which isn't true.

Nick is listed along with Jake Shields and Jackson Hinkle, but even they aren't called agents of Russia or Iran.

They're referred to as, quote, marginal, non-credible domestic actors who are, quote, engagement-dependent personalities operating in the periphery of MAGA discourse.

Ooh, talk dirty to me.

The report says, quote, as they lack institutional affiliation or consistent ideology, they subsist on narrative opportunism and algorithmic volatility.

Their alignment with state-seeded propaganda arises from relevance hunger, social isolation, and the incentives of digital attention economies.

Sure.

A fair amount of what they're saying is pretty accurate.

That is right on the money.

But I'm not sure about the periphery part.

Sure.

That might be a story that these people are telling themselves to be like, well, Trump isn't that bad.

It'd be nice.

It'd be nice.

It's almost a delusion of neutrality or central centers.

That's never, I've never seen that happen before.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, in addition to these names, the report lists a different tier of influencers who are the narrative seeders alleged to be working in service of Iran or Russia.

Sure.

These are accounts called Draven Noctis, Adim Media, and Megatron Ron, none of which are Alex or Tucker or even Nick.

Alex is lying about this report and creating a false version of it to discuss, which it seems painfully clear is something that he's just doing on Nick's behalf.

That clip has the energy of someone who doesn't want to get yelled at for not doing their job.

Like Alex had fucked up by not introducing this topic before Nick got to it.

Alex feels almost like a butler.

Like, oh, no, no, I didn't sweep up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's weird.

It is interesting.

I mean, I guess

I guess what happens, here's how I see it in the real world, is that

Fuentes got named.

And this was super duper exciting because now we've got something that is like, oh, they're attacking me.

And then, you know, Alex can help him zhuzh it up, get the story going.

So now we've got an actual, like, oh, this is a whole crucifixion kind of angle for it.

They're coming after Nick Fuentes and all of us, but I guess there's not actually anything there.

No.

Right.

So Alex has to make up a completely different story.

Yeah.

To prime everybody.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And all of it is in service of like a lot of very convenient things for Nick.

Yeah, absolutely.

But like,

it's weird because like this report doesn't matter.

No.

It's really just like,

hey, here's an opportunity to

pretend we're under a team.

Narrative-driven opportunism

and algorithmic

reason they're hanging out is social isolation.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Kind of nailed it.

Yeah, that's

right on.

So Alex just yells and complains about a fake version of this report that he's created in his head to defend Nick.

And let me stop here.

Totally, we got to do more on this.

Just listen to me, listeners.

I have never seen such naked telegraphing.

Okay, so their case study is false flag, but it's all about anybody says false flag is a Russian or Iranian or Qatarian propagandist, then not just

Levin, who's literally a Mossad agent.

I mean, just it's obvious, a mouthpiece of the Lacudin experimentum, is saying, oh, the attacks are coming.

Ha, ha, ha, we'll get Iran, but don't listen to people that say it's a false flag.

It is totally pre-programmed.

Mosi goes, oh, they're going to blame fellow Americans.

No, we're going to blame Mossad agents, buddy.

And so

this means 100% they're doing.

I mean, this is

because they're geared up, they're ready, and they're scared of this.

We've got to get ahead of this.

But then, separately, and I'll give you the floor, separately in all of this,

they also then say anybody that disagrees with the war is an imposter.

And then all the talking points, because I didn't read the report when it came out a few weeks ago, folks.

I only read it like two days ago.

Because I started, I read part of it.

I read the article about the report.

Oh, my God.

And I'm like, wait a minute, imposters undermining MAGA.

And I was seeing that by all the bots and Laura Loomer and all of them.

And then I actually read the report a few days ago and go, oh my God, I went turn to look at the accounts.

It's word for word.

So they've paid these influencers, obviously.

This is a Mossad,

Bill Gates, deep state attack.

And then the idiots have put their whole blueprint right here.

This is the Death Star plans.

They have fucked up, Nick.

This is huge.

Alex is making up all of this, but what I find kind of magical about that clip is the way you can feel Alex's excitement at discovering how he can make these pieces fit together to build a story.

He's pulling in whatever he can and pretending that this report said that anyone who opposes war with Iran is an enemy agent, and he wraps it up with a little bow.

And it's almost as if he's asking, Is that good enough, Nick?

Yep.

Have I done a good job?

Yep.

He's presenting this bullshit he rattled off like it's for Nick's approval.

Sign off on this.

Can I clock out?

Is the check signed?

I mean, yeah, that's it's very obvious.

Well, it's not obvious, but the behavior matches with that.

Like,

it's not proof, but this is the kind of behavior you would see if that were the case.

I mean, it's, it's just, yeah, it's,

I, I, I'm doing a job.

I am do I am here doing a job.

I am not here doing my show.

I'm not here doing this.

I'm a contractor.

You've hired me out to perform this behavior.

Yes, right.

The part of it that's like he is doing a job,

that is obvious.

Yeah.

But whether or not it's a job that's like brokered programming kind of job or if it's a job that's just like, I got nothing else to do today.

That's a good question.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm desperate for content.

This scene's popular on Twitter.

Yeah.

If you get hired to build somebody's house, then you're like, yeah, look at it.

Look, I've got this thing.

I've got this going.

I've got this place right here for you.

This is a really good house.

I'm building you a really good house.

Yeah.

At the same time, I feel like if I was his friend and I was in his vicinity while he goes on that whole rant about how all this, like, I couldn't help but just, none of this is real, man.

Stop it.

Stop it.

Stop it.

Like, it's

out there.

I can't figure out if he's getting paid or if he's doing it on spec.

That's the

thing.

It's about exposure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If Alex is working for exposure, we're in real trouble.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I think that the tone that they have between them is captured in this clip.

They're even running the game on the conservative base, on the Trump supporters, saying, hey, if Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes are against this, they turned on Trump.

They're fake MAGA.

They're manipulating MAGA.

And you're right.

It's literally word for word in the Murdoch-owned New York Post.

They say they're trying to manipulate the MAGA base by posing as MAGA and saying they oppose the war.

And by being propped up by Iranian bots, they're giving this impression that their opinion is.

He's going to read it real quick.

You're totally right.

They even say imposter.

So here's why this is so important.

This is an elite globalist brainwashing point.

But when I first saw it a few weeks ago, they hadn't implemented it.

Then I noticed it was implemented and read it.

The point is, this is the battle plan.

That's what, folks, we have the plan, the Mossad plan right here, which means imminent false flag, brother.

This is bad.

It is.

And everybody needs to be on high high alert.

I mean, I'm really concerned about traveling, airports.

This is embarrassing.

Alex is horribly overselling this thing, and even Nick doesn't feel like he wants that spin that Alex is putting.

He's going a little too far.

Yeah.

In wrestling, this is what's called a style clash.

Sometimes a big beefy guy and a little flippy guy, they have good chemistry, and their different styles complement each other.

But sometimes they're just not on the same page, and you can tell.

The way their performances intersect with each other serves to break the illusion of Kayfabe instead of deepening it.

And that's how this feels.

Alex is in sales, man.

The sky is falling.

We finally found the key to solve the mystery mode.

Whereas Nick is trying to sanitize himself to Alex's audience, and he's looking to come off like a studious guy who's being unfairly attacked by this report.

It doesn't work together, and the two of them are kind of working against purposes.

Alex is just doing this embarrassing over-the-top thing.

Yeah.

And it feels feels desperate.

Yeah, I mean,

that, okay.

So if what we're looking at is

actually

trying to find allies, if this makes sense.

So

in the coming

clash between far-right media figures,

we'll have,

you know.

Obviously, there'll be multiple sides, probably based around some form of bigotry or misogyny, one or the other.

This feels like

yeah, this feels like people feeling out who's actual allies and who's not going to be allies in the coming struggle.

Sure.

You know what I mean?

But the problem is, on the show, they're both trying to be allies to the wrong

show.

Well, Alex, you know, yeah, Alex is trying to be like, this is how I promote you.

Nick's like, all the people who watch my show are going to laugh at this because you're an embarrassing old douche.

You suck.

You're being a dork trying to say that this report is the battle plan of Mossad that reveals that false flags are imminent.

Like, it just seems overly desperate.

Yep.

It seems like somebody who's, like, they don't even think tomorrow matters.

I don't care what this story, I don't care what reality I'm implying with this story.

Anything.

Yeah.

And tomorrow it will mean nothing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think that's the difference between them.

Nick understands tomorrow exists.

Nick, you know, he believes tomorrow exists for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Nick and Alex, they're both a little bit worried about the idea that Israel might take over the United States.

Sure.

Aren't we all?

I mean, hey, they could walk in.

And in discussing this, Alex,

I think he says something that he really, really shouldn't have.

Totally agree.

I think, you know, as far as Mark Levin is concerned, that guy's totally, he might as well be in the IDF.

And as far as the Hezbollah pagers are concerned, you know, this is something that it doesn't take a big imagination.

If Israel can carry out this kind of intelligence penetration of Iran and Hezbollah, you have to assume they could do it to us.

And that's sort of terrifying.

You know, what would, if there was a conflict between the U.S.

and Israel, who would win?

I think it's kind of an open question.

You'd assume to be us because we're so much bigger and more powerful.

But, you know, if they have a man inside the White House and inside the Pentagon and inside Google and all the rest of it, and with AI AI and drones, you know, it's sort of a question.

And that is what I'm concerned about is, you know, in the big picture, how this is going to affect balance of power in the Middle East and the world.

So I, you know, U.S.

of Israel, I don't think that's far off.

I think that's kind of the point.

Yeah.

I mean, look, Israel was a client state of the British Empire in the U.S.

Now it openly says it's the most focused faction.

It's put its people into everything.

And Israel after China is the greatest national security threat to this country in world peace.

That's just a fact.

And now with them going into full offense, I try not to give it energy because

Israel goes and stages false flags against itself since the 50s.

They love it.

So the more you attack it and just attack Jews in general, the more power they get.

Okay, folks.

I don't want to attack Jews in general.

Most of them aren't sophisticated like everybody else.

But at a certain point, when it gets so bad and the cancer is spreading quickly, I'm like, well, we're past the point of return now.

We just got to full guns.

And I've always exposed all this stuff, but I've done it tactfully.

And now we're in such danger of nuclear war.

I'm just like, floodgates, whatever.

I don't

floodgates.

This might literally be the worst thing that Alex could possibly say to explain his shift over being way more anti-Semitic as well as being way more anti-Israel in the recent months.

Alex is saying that he hasn't been very vocal about Israel in the past because they're too powerful and that criticizing them plays into their hands.

They love false flagging themselves so they can play the victim.

So Alex has historically just given them a pass.

On one hand, this just isn't true.

Throughout his career, Alex has had varying views on Israel, depending on what's convenient for him at the time.

And he was even a fan of Netanyahu during Trump's first term.

He's also been very critical of Israel at times when it's been in his interest, like at the beginning of the COVID vaccine rollout, where there was high uptake in Israel.

There isn't a coherent through line of his position on the Israeli government, but Alex now seems to be saying that he's been going easy on them.

Alex isn't shifting toward being more critical of the Israeli government in terms of policy or action.

He's becoming more outwardly anti-Semitic.

That's what he's made a conscious effort to go easy on over the course of his career, and what he's testing the waters of letting go of now.

This isn't even close to subtle.

What he's saying.

This is like, yeah, over the course of my career, I've gotten a lot of criticism from anti-Semites and Nazis about how I don't say globalists.

It means Jews.

I don't encourage people to be Nazis.

And hey, the floodgates are open now.

Fuck it.

Who cares?

I mean, you know, it's a return to that good old-fashioned American exceptionalism, anti-Semitism from the old days, you know,

back in the 1890s, whenever they were really doing it upright.

Well, I mean, it goes back to that with Al, you know,

him coming in from break with No More Mr.

Nice Guy.

This is the image that he's trying to

send across to the audience.

It's like, I have been overly nice to you Jewish people, to Jewish people,

because being mean to you is just, it serves Israel's interests.

It's strategically not in my interests to be a Nazi, but now I don't give a fuck.

Yeah.

That's bad.

This is really bad.

Because on the one hand, he's saying,

hey, Nazism is cool now.

And then the second thing that he's saying is i've been lying over the entire course of my career yep i've been pretending that i don't actually kind of hate all jewish people yep but i do uh i do and i've just strategically pretended that i didn't yeah it is it is interesting what people will say uh when you're not around you know because like that to me is something that if if he and i were is in the room together that's something that is like, I'd hope, okay, well, then we're done here.

Yeah, I'd walk away or like, yeah, this is the end of whatever peaceful exchange this was going to be.

Yeah.

Right.

And in this, in this circumstance, he doesn't feel like that's what he's doing.

You know?

Like, this feels like, just like, no, no, no, no.

See, it's okay.

He gets roped into things.

It's not bad that I'm saying.

It's got its people everywhere.

It's not bad that I'm saying the Jews are unsophisticated.

That's not bad.

This is me explaining why I've been nice to all of these people for all the years.

He wants some kind of virtue points for not being a Nazi all of these years, but it's in service of him saying now it's time that it's fine.

It's cool now.

And that's crazy.

See, I've been a secret Nazi this whole time, pushing the cause of Nazism forward in a much more acceptable way.

Don't you think I deserve virtue points for not being more of an open Nazi?

Now, the last time that Nick was on the show, it was another pretty deeply anti-Semitic outburst.

Sure.

Well, he's a Nazi.

Right.

But then the next day, it was back to pretending that that isn't the case.

I'm not a Nazi.

Right.

Yeah.

So there is a part of me that understands that like this isn't necessarily indicative of him being like, all right, we're going.

We're going to be Nazis every day now.

Sure, sure, sure, sure.

But this is raising the temperature in a way that is is real, and it's fucked up.

Like, whether or not it's a bottle episode, it has an effect on the people who are listening to it.

And he can fuck right off.

So they take some calls.

Great.

Good.

And Alex gets one call in particular that he thinks is complimenting him, but then has to quickly realize, uh-oh, this person might be crazy.

Mark in Florida, you're on the air.

Go ahead.

Hello, Alex.

If you had a ticker-tape translation of your show in Hebrew, you would win the hearts and minds of the chosen in Israel who are presently hypnotized by the Shabbati and Frankists.

You would devastate Bibi Netanyahu, and you would devastate the Shabate and Frankists by taking over the power of the chosen people.

You would win their hearts and minds, just put a ticker-tape AI translation of your show

on your program, and you were going to devastate them.

Well, if somebody wants to do it, please do it, the show.

I want to reach people in Israel, too.

I know that Israel is very diverse in their ideas.

I don't blame people for the general public in Israel for, you know, the Lekudniks.

But,

I mean, I just don't want to see this war get everybody killed.

Anything else?

This is coming from Ariel Cohen Aloro, who has been dying to come on your show for years.

He is the so-called

advocate.

that Jesus spoke about.

He can prove that in Gematria.

He can prove that with mathematics.

What's his name?

What's his name?

Ariel Cohen Aloro is begging you to put him on the air so that he can explain.

Oh, I don't know.

I'm not trying to cut you off.

It's just we're out of time.

We are out of time.

We're out of time.

Sorry, buddy.

Buddy, you just brought up

Grammatria.

We gotta go.

You're gonna talk about Bible math.

Oh, boy.

Yeah, but Alex thought that that was a compliment.

He should have known when he said, like, the Shabataean Frankens,

that's like a direct thing to like David Icke anti-Semitic conspiracies.

He has to know, like,

it's weird because, on the one hand, you imagine he does know, and he's just ignoring this, this like very strong indication of what this guy is talking about.

Possible.

But is it possible that he just doesn't care and doesn't even, that doesn't register for him?

I don't know why he would spend his free time looking into this guy, this person.

Well, he's argued with David Icke about the Frankists.

He argues with anybody about anything.

He'll argue with you about what sidewalks should be made of.

He doesn't know anything about making up a sidewalk.

Gold.

See?

And many wood.

That's what they haven't had.

Sidewalks in heaven.

Yeah, everything is better in heaven, therefore, sidewalks of gold.

Better.

That is inarguable logic.

Yep.

Yep.

That call was a bummer, but it's a good way for him to be like, we're out of time.

I don't do this anymore.

I think.

So here's something that's fun, right?

But also, here's why the internet should be exploded.

I have worked with a lot of different people in a lot of different jobs over the years, and there have been at least, you know, I would say one out of every two to three jobs, there would be somebody that I was working with who would say something that would reveal a batshit belief that you're like, well, no human being could possibly believe that.

And they do.

And what you can do is just go, we don't have to talk.

Just, we'll just do our jobs.

Yeah.

We'll just do our jobs, right?

Like that guy, the Grometrian guy.

You hang up.

Boy, buddy, we can just go to work.

We can just go to work.

Why are you calling into Alex?

Yeah, if this comes up around me, we will talk about other things.

We can just go to work, man.

I have a lot of thoughts about Survivor and Donkey Kong.

Have you ever seen

the TV?

Anything on the TV.

Anything.

Now, Donkey Kong, when you break down the name with math.

Oh, God.

No, no.

Ah, Jesus.

And I can prove to you that Funky is the best Kong.

No, you can't.

We can just work together, man.

So we have one last clip here, and it's Nick conceding a very important point, and that is that there may be some good Israelis out there.

It's possible.

I mean, maybe.

There's certainly some good Israelis.

I think, you know, Ron Oons is a good Jew here in America who would agree with us, but I think a lot of the Israelis, you know, they're, I think they're pretty stubborn.

You know, there's a long history in the Bible of very stubborn, and, you know, they kind of lose their way a little bit.

Maybe that's happening now.

But

some people are.

I'm sorry, Michael Savage coming out and saying when you get rid of Netanyahu, Alex was talking over to him a little bit, but Nick said at the end there, the chosen people are us.

Yes, yes.

So Nick says there might be some good Israelis out there.

And then the example that he has is Ron Unz.

Unz is a straight-up Holocaust denier who was born in Los Angeles, but whose parents were Jewish immigrants from Ukraine.

He's in no way Israeli, but he is Jewish, which Nick treats as the same thing.

Sure.

Which is weird.

And you can see that Alex does the same thing when he brings up Michael Savage.

He's an American who was born in New York, but his parents were Jewish.

Like, this is just them talking about Jewish people, but pretending they're talking about Israel or Israelis.

This is fucking garbage.

And this is the direction that Alex's show is going on.

If there is a meaningful shift that's happening, like, there's a lot of stuff about his disenchantment with Trump and, you know, weird energy around Elon Musk and all that stuff that is very important.

important.

But this is a damn breaking.

This is a 30-year damn breaking that I don't know how you can walk back.

Yeah.

The stuff with Trump, like, yeah, sure.

You spend a decade kissing this guy's ass and making excuses for all the things that he's done.

But you did that with Ron Paul, too.

Like, this is way more high-profile and embarrassing.

And sure, there's going to be baggage you're going to have to carry for a while.

Sure.

But you can shift.

It's going to be painful.

You're going to lose some people.

You're going to have to invoke a lot of cognitive dissonance for people to go along with it.

But this, I don't know how you go back from.

Being like, I've known since I was eight that the Star of David is a secret seal that controls demons.

Like, I don't know how you're supposed to, like.

You don't go back.

You know, I mean, I wonder if what we should be learning, or the lesson that we should have learned, is that these people were already crazy.

Yes.

When we thought they were not.

And that there was never any going back because it's already too deep in a hole.

That, like,

I am the one who creates the paradigms is right next to, I think we are the chosen people.

These people are insane.

Yeah.

This is insane.

You can't be the chosen people and also fucking go to a Walgreens.

That's not how God works.

I am

the Tom Brady of this shit.

I'm the best there is.

And now let me do four minutes of an an impression of a Jewish guy hypnotizing an audience.

You're all fucking crazy.

I don't know, man.

I think that this episode is dog shit.

I think it sucks.

Yeah.

I think that Alex should be ashamed of himself.

I think that there is a best case scenario that Nick paid him to do it.

And like, that's...

Me trying to be as generous as possible with my interpretation of what caused this.

If he didn't get paid to do this, then he's a fucking disgrace.

He is a neo-Nazi and has been lying to his audience for 30 years about what he actually believes.

So I sincerely hope for his sake that he got paid.

And fuck him.

I mean, not enough.

Whatever amount it is, it's not enough.

Yep.

So anyway, we still have the Epstein list.

Coming soon to

Peter near you.

And we'll check in and see how Alex navigates all this territory.

But until then, we have a website.

Indeed, we do.

It's knowledge.com.

Yep.

We'll be back.

But until then, I'm Neo.

I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark.

I am the Mysterious Professor.

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your work.

I love you.