#1038: May 13, 2025

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Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jerry.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan.

Dan.

Jordan.

Quick question.

What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

My bright spot today is I was walking around

the convenience store.

Sure.

And I happened to see some pretzels.

Okay.

And they were flips.

The flips brand.

Sure.

You know the flips.

They put some chocolate on the pretzels sometimes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The flavor that they had, it's a summer flavor, and I thought it said fried chicken.

Right.

And I, I, that's interesting.

I was worried, so I grabbed it immediately.

Of course.

I mean, a fried chicken pretzel is going to be eaten.

Yeah.

But it was actually fried chocolatey sandwich cookie.

So it was like fried Oreos.

Oh.

Like a carnival treat that you would get, you know, deep fried Oreos.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They tried to recreate that flavor in a Flips chocolate covered pretzel.

It's not successful.

It's garbage.

But for that split second that I thought it was fried chicken,

I was so excited.

Fried chocolatey looks a lot.

That would have been...

That would have been an incredible achievement.

Okay.

And I don't know why this is.

I don't know why this is.

But a fried Oreo thing?

Don't care.

Don't like it.

Don't want it.

And if you fail to achieve that, that's on you.

You suck.

A fried chicken pretzel, win or lose.

I admire the goddamn gumption.

Yeah, yeah, it's it.

There's a lot of nerve to put that out.

And the steps that have to go into getting it onto a store shelf are very exciting to think about.

Yeah.

Fried Oreo, less so, although it is kind of a like, it's not the first choice.

Sure.

I think they already did churro.

And so that's why

cotton candy probably doesn't work if you're going to go for like carnival flavors.

Somebody just goes to the Iowa State Fair every year and is like, I guess we'll turn that horrifying monstrosity into a flavor next.

Yeah.

Pickle.

Pickle.

Just pickle.

Just pickle.

Pickle.

So what's your bright spot?

My bright spot is and or and or and or it ended.

Oh.

And or ended.

Okay.

Spoiler alert, it ends in the movie Rogue One.

I think you already have said that on this podcast.

Right.

I thought it it was ending a couple of weeks ago because I thought there's only nine episodes.

Turns out there was 12.

So it ended yesterday.

My wife and I watched it.

But it was no spoiler for anybody who listens to Star Show that it ends in Rogue One.

No, no spoiler.

Well-traveled territory.

Yeah.

It was great.

Just from start to finish, it was a great show.

Good characters.

Good show.

I have two questions.

Sure.

One, did it make you want to go watch Rogue One?

We immediately watched Rogue One.

That means it's probably fairly successful.

Yeah.

And that kind of answers my second question that I had, which is, if this was a show that was being released in the lead up to the theatrical release of Rogue One, everyone would go ape shit.

Yeah, you'd be really pumped to go.

Oh my God.

The idea of having to wait even, like, seriously, we finished the 12th episode, the end of the series, and immediately started Rogue One.

The idea of having the series end and then knowing that like six months from now, a movie would be...

fuck that no chip not I'd be furious that's that's high praise for the show yeah it's fantastic all right maybe I'll watch it I would watch it okay do it stop yelling I won't

no I like that it's uh kind of uh limited to you know it's there's not like going to be 20 seasons of it or whatever nope I'll give it a fucking whirl

it really I honestly it really is great what's it on Peacock Disney Plus Disney Plus yeah Star Wars Okay, Star Wars.

Star Wars.

Yep.

Yep.

So, Jordan, today we have a Star Wars to go over.

Actually, George Lucas does come up.

Wow.

A little

bit later.

Conratliff is the guest on this episode.

No, no.

Although his spirit will be there when I talk about George Lucas briefly.

But no, this is a dumb episode of Alex's Stupid Show, and we'll talk about it here in a minute.

But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

Ooh, that's a great idea.

So first, I'm a policy wank.

I'm a policy.

You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

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Next, Alex Jones just wants to be a drama YouTuber.

Thank you so much.

You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And shout out to Tempokov, Big TD Jesse, and all the other Knowledge Fight listening DBHQ posters from your boy Spiffy.

Love y'all.

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You're now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

And we have a technical card in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much, too.

After more than a thousand episodes of Knowledge Fight, my immediate takeaways are one, that every time Alex does that stupid list of adverbs, I can't help tacking on ecumenically

in a Jack Sparrow voice.

And also, fuck you forever for making me know what Alex Jones sounds like having an orgasm on live TV.

I hate you.

Take my money and get out of my face.

Love Charlie.

Thank you so much.

You're now a Technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy Sharp.

bomb bump bump bump jar jar binks has a caribbean black accent he's a loser little little kitty baby i don't want to hate black people i renounce jesus christ thank you so much thank you very much i think that we've heard a variation a number of different times that alex is uh busted yep um so i don't even know what that what the person was specifically referencing.

Yeah, exactly.

That's kind of the problem.

And there's a varietal.

There's a varietal.

So you never know what's real or what's fake with Alex.

Everybody thinks that they have one O-face.

Everybody does think that.

No.

Range.

So we start off on this episode.

We're talking about May 13th.

All right.

And

Alex,

he's aware that Trump has gone to Saudi Arabia, and he's doing this tour through the Gulf states.

Okay.

And

he's listing off some of Trump's victories in the second

second term.

If people aren't impressed with Trump overall and don't understand that massive history is happening every day and the entire globalist system is going down the crapper

and that he's trying to stabilize the whole planet and just create absolute

success and lowering energy prices that is the bedrock.

of a successful, vibrant society.

And that he's rallying people all over the world that want that.

You got to hand it to the Saudi Arabians with their new leadership since Trump and the Crown Prince had that big coup when the Saudi Arabians staged the Vegas attack.

Trump and the Saudi Prince took out all those guys and killed thousands of them.

Wait, what?

The Crown Prince's cousins got tortured to death.

Of course, the public doesn't know about that because, you know,

the public watches corporate media and doesn't put the big boy pants on.

But, you know, Trump seized the Panama Canal.

I mean, it's just

Trump's totally destroyed the BRICS operation.

The whole world's aligned with us.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Saudi Arabia faked the Las Vegas shooting.

Fuck just happened.

Or did the Las Vegas shooting, and then Trump overthrew the government of Saudi Arabia and killed everybody.

I know Alex has sort of hinted in that direction before, but this is, he's laying it out there.

I did not see that coming.

No?

No.

Nope.

No, no, no.

I don't think Alex remembers the name of the guy who did the Las Vegas shooting.

Right.

But the, yeah, the storyline, I guess, is that Saudi Arabia, working with the globalists, did the Las Vegas shooting.

Right.

And then in response, Trump put on his big boy pants and went over there and killed the royal family.

Right.

And then installed MBS on the throat.

That does sound like a plausible sequence of events.

And then said, hey, it's cool that you murdered Jamal Khashoggi.

Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

Well, I mean, okay.

If this initial part of the story is true, I think you got to let him murder Kojogi.

He's got a lot of dirt on him.

Yeah, absolutely.

Too much dirt.

Too much dirt.

Too much dirt.

I want to get into this more.

Yeah.

But Alex revisits this later in the episode, and he has a bit more detail.

Okay.

So we'll get to it.

I just thought it was...

A little shocking to be on the list of accomplishments right at the beginning of the episode.

Right out the gate.

Yeah.

Okay.

He took the Panama Canal and overthrew Saudi Rochester.

I feel like we could have, you know what?

I think the order was wrong.

We could have eased into it with he took the Panama Canal, and you're like, okay, that's fair.

Maybe we should discuss what taking and how awful that is, but whatever.

We'll just move on.

And then he installed MBS.

That's your second move.

You should also start from more solid ground.

Absolutely.

Whined about DEI stuff in an executive order.

Then he took the canal.

Yeah, he stole a lot of money from people and then gave it to his rich friends.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, you know, Alex likes to fancy fancy himself as a man who doesn't promise you a utopia.

He likes to think that he doesn't do that.

He takes the wool back over your eyes and shows you the world for what it really is.

Yeah, and I mentioned on the last episode that sometimes he actually does promise utopia.

Yeah, pretty great.

Here's an example of that.

Oh.

I am so fired up and so excited about what's happening and going on that I am,

quite frankly, frustrated that my fellow humans, on average, do not understand how historical this is.

I mean, this is wild.

And I thought humanity would rally against the globalists and we'd have a long, protracted battle.

And we've still got big issues and there's technology issues and AI.

I mean, I'm not saying we're headed for a cakewalk here, but the ridiculous,

globalist, dandruff-covered

Rothschild Rockefeller system is in ashes.

And what you see coming into the vacuum is everybody else who just wants to have laissez-faire success and go to space and get life extension that's already there and free energy.

And you're seeing the beginning of that.

And I'm telling you, once Trump stabilizes the planet, they're going to roll out all of these new advanced technologies that they've got on record.

That doesn't sound true.

And it's just going to be amazing.

You have no faith.

You don't believe that at all?

Zero faith.

That once Trump stabilizes the planet, he's going to roll out magical medical technology and free energy.

I'm suggesting now, and listen, I'm open to the possibility that people are capable of change.

But generally speaking, if you want to think about what a person might do in the future, take a look at their track record.

He's a very old man, he's been rich his entire life.

Let's see what he's doing.

Let's see what he's done with all of his stuff.

You know, he's had a lot of money in the past, he's stabilized much of his own business, quote unquote.

Has he then spread that to his contractors?

Has he even just paid people the appropriate agreed-upon amount?

No?

Well, then I suspect that that's how it's going to be going forward.

Well, I think that, you know, there's everyone talks about how Trump, you know, some of his properties they wouldn't rent to black people.

Right, right.

Or you can't sleep here.

Right.

But what they don't tell you is that the news never wants to report the second part, which is you can't sleep here.

Because I've got a magic med bed for you.

Ooh, there we go.

I had not considered that.

You can't rent this apartment apartment because I have magical technology.

This apartment isn't good enough for you.

Right.

I've got to get you into the magical med beds.

Yeah.

That sounds right.

So I think this is a little bit of a utopian fantasy that Alex is having.

And I think that when your if-then statement is if Trump stabilizes the world,

then we'll get all this stuff.

I don't know if anybody's ever stabilized the world.

I would suggest that the world maintains its instability with almost ironclad strength.

Yeah.

So Trump does not like Benjamin Netanyahu.

Sure.

I don't think anybody does.

Yeah.

I think he's having a rough one.

Bad from a PR standpoint right now.

I mean, just like, listen, regardless of what you think about the things he's doing, I think he's just a very unlikable guy, especially in the current circumstances.

Yeah.

And so Alex talks about how Trump does not like him, and maybe Benjamin Netanyahu's actually behind Signalgate.

Oh, that sounds true.

I told you a month ago

that I talked to multiple high-level individuals that had directly talked to Trump

in

the last day.

I mean, you've got

people that are in the room

and talking to Trump on the phone, and Trump's telling them, can't say who he told,

that he's completely done with Netanyahu, and that Netanyahu is a criminal and a psychotic and wants to start a nuclear war, and that Iran and China are going to, and Russia, if he attacked Iran, are going to come into it, and it's going to cause a total expansion of the World War III scenario we've already entered.

And that Iran is ready to give up the ballistic missiles, ready to do everything,

but that Netanyahu does not want that.

And then Trump caught Netanyahu through Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic working with Waltz, who was either a useful idiot, but probably not,

probably blackmailed or something, bringing Goldberg into the chat.

And then the target was Heg Seth because he's not anti-Israel, but he's anti-nuclear war and attacking Iran.

Okay.

So I will say that Alex has been saying that Trump secretly doesn't like Netanyahu for a while now.

Sure.

I feel like it's been less than a month, but I just want to give credit that this is something that he has been saying.

I don't believe the sourcing and insider information part of it, but I got to call balls and strikes.

This is an interesting way that Alex has decided to explain the whole situation with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth leaking plans to bomb Yemen in multiple signal chats.

Apparently, he did everything right, but National Security Advisor Mike Waltz added Atlantic reporter Jeffrey Goldberg to their group chat, most likely because he was being blackmailed by Netanyahu.

That sounds true.

So Waltz was chosen to take the fall for this.

So he stepped down from his position and was promptly nominated to be our ambassador to the UN.

Alex is telling the story this way because Waltz is the punching bag in the story.

So naturally, he's going to be at the center of this conspiracy.

This still doesn't explain why Hegseth sent his family messages about the military plans in Yemen, but a guy like Alex doesn't let those kind of details get in the way of his ability to tell a fun, fake story.

I think that Alex isn't operating off of inside information, but he's intuitive enough to see what's going on in the world and realize that Netanyahu has become way lower of a priority for Trump this presidency as opposed to the last one.

There have been a string of actions he's taken that have been a bit out of step with the Israeli government's wishes, and it's pretty easy to see that a huge part of this is because Trump personally has huge business dealings with with other countries in the Gulf like Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

One of these actions is that Trump negotiated a deal with the Houthis to stop bombing Yemen in exchange for them stopping attacking ships and blocking trade routes.

That deal didn't include a concession that they would stop shooting missiles at Israeli targets, and they made it very clear that they intended to continue doing that.

Sure.

And it didn't stop Trump from making this deal.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

After that, Trump's administration negotiated directly with Hamas to get the last U.S.

citizen hostage that they had taken released, leaving Netanyahu's government out of the loop.

All of it does add up to the appearance of chilling relations, but I don't think it's political at all.

It seems like it's all about what makes the most sense for Trump in terms of money personally.

The line between his business interests and our foreign policy is really blurry at the moment.

I'm going to refer back to what I said about past behavior being a predictor of future events.

Yeah.

I think a lot of this is quite easy to understand with the sort of model of Trump that I have in my brain.

Yeah, yeah, it is it is fascinating because if you just look at it, very, very Emperor has no clothes thee,

you can see the way everybody else is trying to, or like the way that all the important people, so to speak, are trying to like twist themselves into knots to explain this behavior in a way that fits within the paradigm previous uh administrations have, which is like, a little theft is fine.

We're all stealing a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But we've got the nation's interests at heart, you know?

Except for when it can, you know, except for when we don't want to.

Yeah, and I think that a lot of times in the past, a little bit of a

would get someone to like have a little shame and reflection.

Hey, you're stealing a little too much.

I'm going a little far.

Getting greedy.

Listen, buddy, buddy.

And that leak's happening.

That's not happening this time.

Yeah.

Nope.

Nope.

So Alex talks about this dispute and not seeing eye to eye between Trump and Netanyahu.

Sure.

And I think this sounds like teens fighting.

So Netanyahu in the last three, four months has tried to muscle Trump behind the scenes and publicly, and Trump doesn't like that.

And you've already forgiven Netanyahu

when he was the first foreign leader to call and congratulate and endorse Biden when he stole the election four and a half years ago.

Sure.

And then wouldn't even talk to Trump after that for years.

Well, you think Donald Trump forgets that?

Do you think he forgets that?

Do you know what?

Netanyahu says that Trump broke up with him,

but it was the other way around.

Honestly.

Honestly.

I absolutely think

he forgets that until he doesn't, and then he does again.

Hey, how much are you paying me?

I've forgotten it.

I want something from you.

Surprise, I have not forgotten it.

This sounds like children.

But the problem is that I think this also fits with my model of what I think Trump acts like.

So that's a bubber.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the summer is coming up.

Sure.

And so that can only mean one thing.

Rage.

Yep.

Yep.

Summer of rage is coming.

Sure.

And Alex talks about how it's going to start.

Okay.

Or maybe it's not going to start.

Is it a race war?

It is going to involve race war dynamics.

Okay.

And I told you, building up to the summer, Antiva would start taking over buildings.

They'd start burning things down.

Black Lives Matter would show back up.

You'd have members of Congress and mayors storming ICE facilities.

I told you over and over again.

And it's

right up into the summer.

And now someone has convinced Trump to

pardon

Chauvin, Shavon,

the innocent cop of the George Floyd thing, which I think should happen.

Trump's going to do that report to the whole police department's ever been told.

That's perfect timing to get the Democrats rioting.

And look, Trump's not stupid.

I think he's getting ready to do that to

have them go ahead and have their fit now before they've really built it up to the hottest part of the summer.

Remember, Red Adair invented the famous oilfield firefighter over 100 years ago in Texas.

He just had the idea to roll a wheelbarrow of dynamite into a well that's on fire because it'll burn for months,

sometimes for years,

and blow it up, and that knocks all the oxygen out in the explosion, and it basically works every time.

I mean, look, if Trump really pardons the cop that didn't kill George Floyd, I'm sorry, given a fake trial, the autopsy said that he died of fentanyl.

I mean, that's all on record.

And the prosecutors hid that information.

That's all come out.

It's the right thing to do, but why would Trump do that?

Wait, what?

It's actually smart.

See, before they mowed out a bunch of illegal aliens in a demonstration and blame it on us, because that's coming.

What?

Because they've already pre-programmed it everywhere.

Trump and Tom Homan are going to kill all the illegal aliens.

They're going to kill the migrants in the protests.

Well, they're telling you the plan.

So

that's what they're going to do.

It's not going to work because people are aware of it.

And

I think it's cute that Trump is, according to our sources, at least told the local departments all over the country, get ready that that pardon is coming.

And

I haven't been told by administration that that's for sure what they're doing, but it fits.

So I'm just kind of giving you the wargaming and the inside baseball, the way

real people think.

Is that what that was?

This is a broadcast for adults.

And serious people that actually want to know what's going on.

Yeah, this is serious.

So it's fun to listen to Alex Alex talk this stuff out like he's having a conversation with himself.

Yeah.

Like he doesn't quite stay on the same train of thought.

And in fact, I think he goes in a circle through that clip.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trump pardoning Derek Chauvin would be bad because that would be the thing that the left wants to use as an inciting incident to protest against.

So giving them that justification to riot would be dumb of Trump.

Right.

But then again, Alex is supposed to believe that Chauvin is innocent.

So is he going to advocate for an innocent person to be kept in prison just because the left might respond poorly to his release?

Yes.

That's an unsustainable model for the legal system, and Alex definitely can't defend that.

So, maybe pardoning Chauvin is actually really smart.

It looks dumb because it'll trigger the left into doing the summer of rage, but maybe it's brilliant for Trump to do it now so the left jumps over the line of scrimmage prematurely.

They're going to get a penalty.

Yeah, false start.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is how adults think.

I don't understand what anyone is doing in this conception of how events work.

But

if we do exist in that, I'm mad at everybody.

I think even, you know what, Trump?

I think everything you're doing is wrong.

But more importantly, this is just a poor plan.

It's a poor plan.

Well, do you mean the imagined plan to cut protesters off at the pass by releasing Chauvin too early?

Absolutely.

And

faceless globalists in this scenario.

This is also a bad plan.

Yeah.

Everybody's doing a bad job.

Everybody, take it.

Take five.

Everybody, take five, re-evaluate what your goals are and restart.

You just picture Soros sitting in like a command bunker and like Chauvin gets released and he's just diving at an emergency.

Oh no, Ryan, we gotta go now.

It was supposed to happen next week.

No!

My carefully laid plans to wait until a thing happens, maybe.

Yeah, very dumb.

But this is how adults think, and this is real war gaming.

This is big boy pants.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Benjamin Netanyahu did, he funded Al-Qaeda, and then Al-Qaeda took over Syria, and Alex is sick of the shit.

Okay.

Netanyahu gets to be the center of the tension and the big war leader, and you can't investigate him, and he's got to stay in power.

Because he's going to keep the war going

and just repeat over and over again about how vicious and evil and animalistic and horrible the Muslims are and how the

Hamas and Hamas

are lightweights compared to al-Qaeda and ISIS.

And who

has, it's all come out, I told you about 25 years ago, but it's all come out in the documents, the USAID money, it's come out of Israel.

Israel doesn't even deny it.

Yetan Yahoo, since he first got in office off and on 25 years ago,

openly funds Al-Qaeda and then ISIS all over the Middle East and funded them and gave them air cover to take over Syria

this year.

This year.

And then put the global head of Al-Qaeda in as their president.

And I played CNN saying, well, he was what he did about Qaeda.

But now he's reformed.

Oh, man.

If Alex doesn't like what he's imagined Netanyahu thinks of the new president of Syria, wait until he hears what Trump said about him.

Uh-oh.

The interim president of Syria is a man named Ahmed Al-Shara, who was definitely an al-Qaeda-linked fighter in Syria, who is notably trying to unite the Nusra front with ISIS.

According to the BBC, the U.S.

government had a $10 million bounty on him until December 2024, and he's a former detainee at Abu Ghraib like 20 years ago.

Nice.

Trump was just in Riyadh, meeting with Gulf state leaders, and Al-Shara was there.

Trump moved to drop U.S.

sanctions on Syria and said of Al-Shara, he's a, quote, young, attractive guy, tough guy, strong past, very strong past, fighter.

He's got a real shot at holding it together.

He's a real leader.

He led a charge, and he's pretty amazing.

All right.

I mean, sure.

Sure.

It's probably a good thing to drop those sanctions since they most likely were only hurting the people of the country, but the dissonance of what's going on and how Alex is engaging with this is pretty stark.

Alex is a guy who's pretty supportive of Assad because his dictatorship was supposed to be the thing that was keeping the Muslims there from killing the Christians.

Now there's a former al-Qaeda fighter who's the new president.

So Alex has to be very against that.

But now Trump is making nice with the guy.

Alex is in an unwinnable situation here.

Yeah, yeah, that's that is kind of the thing, you know?

Like, I.

You can't, oh, I hate those guys.

I hate that.

And then the IRA is in Sinn Fein.

You know, you never know.

You never know.

Time happens, and then later on, your allies are your enemies, and your enemies are your allies.

Maybe just don't be an asshole all the time.

Yeah, yeah.

Alex has certainly put himself into a weird box.

Yeah.

And I'm excited to see how he tries to get out of it.

Maybe just by ignoring.

I think ignoring is the way to go.

Yeah, I would pretend that it doesn't exist.

Yes.

Especially now.

Like, I would pretend that the Middle East as a whole simply does not exist because there's no situation where Trump goes to the Middle East and just says something like, hi, where you don't have to defend horrors.

You know?

Yeah.

Yep.

So I think one strategy you could take, though, is just talk about Star Wars.

I think it's the best strategy for my life.

Yeah.

And so we're going to do that a little bit.

Hey.

Alex is going to reminisce on how George Lucas wrote the Star Wars movies in the 70s, but also about 9-11.

God damn it.

George Lucas rewrote episode three of Star Wars that came out of Furious Epic 9-11.

He was on the news and said, no, I think 9-11 is basically an inside job.

And this is an allegory of that.

And what's the senator do?

He keeps hiring people to attack his own planet so that he gets elevated as a victim.

And then he attacks the main imperial planet when he's already the chancellor to become the emperor.

And George Lucas said, yeah, that's al-Qaeda.

Exactly.

I mean, Star Wars episode three

had a whole new script written for it and a whole new book because he originally wrote those books back in the 70s.

He wrote all the

stories first.

Oh, no.

Alex has bought the hype about George Lucas having written all the movies back in the 70s.

He did not.

I know Alex is gullible, but this is a little much.

So the whole plot about Palpatine tricking Jar Jar Binks into voting him to give him supreme power over the Intergalactic Senate happens in episode 2, Attack of the Clones, which came out in May 2020, or 2002.

It was all shot before 9-11, so it was definitely not inspired by the U.S.

response to that.

Can't possibly be.

It was mainly CGI.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I found the interview that Alex is talking about with George Lucas from 2005, around when Revenge of the Sith came out.

It's in Wired, and he's asked about his interest in making historical films.

Lucas says, quote, yes, but I don't want to get into a situation where people say that's not historically correct.

History is fiction, but people seem to think otherwise.

The thing I like about fantasy and science fiction is that you can take issues, pull them out of their cultural straitjackets, and talk about them without bringing folk artifacts that make people get closed-minded.

The interview guy says, quote, give me an example of what you mean by a folk artifact.

And George replies, quote, Fahrenheit 9-11.

People went nuts.

The folk aspects of that film were George Bush or Iraq or 9-11 or intense emotional issues that made people put up their blinders and say, I have an opinion about this and I'm not going to accept anything else.

If you could look at these issues more open-mindedly at what's going on with the human mind behind all this on all sides, you could have a more interesting conversation without people screaming, plugging their ears, and walking out of the room like kids do.

George wasn't saying that 9-11 was an inside job.

He was talking about Fahrenheit 9-11 in the context of how it had opened up the genre of documentaries to be theatrical releases in a way that it really hadn't before, and that was something he was interested in.

It is possible, though, that George Lucas was a 9-11 truth guy.

I don't know if you've heard Seth Rogan's story about him.

The short version of it is: Seth Rogan was warned by George Lucas that the world was going to end in 2012.

Sure.

Well, I mean, hey, come on.

Yeah.

Come on.

He's very insistent that this did actually happen.

I believe that.

Why not?

Yeah.

So he might have been a Mayan apocalypse guy.

Sure.

So, yeah, I think Alex,

I don't know.

I mean, the thing about it is it's fun that Alex is embodying the thing that the quote itself is trying to warn against.

Like, because you're bringing your own bullshit to it,

I can't talk to you about reality.

I'm not talking about artifacts.

I can't talk to you about reality.

I have to remove these concepts and place them into fictional lightsaber wizardland so I can talk to you about things like a grown-up.

Yeah.

And Alex is actively trying to convince Jar Jar Binks to give Trump the Senate.

Yes.

Yep.

But yeah, I mean, like, in terms of

there being politics in those movies, yeah, of course.

George Lucas was clear that Vietnam was the first movies.

Yeah.

And obviously there's, you know, the rise of Hitler and the prequels

and shit.

But yeah, Alex is dumb.

Yes.

So he gets to ranting about how everyone hates the establishment.

Like Michelle Obama.

Sure.

And Keir Starmer.

All of of them suck.

Is that all of them?

Yeah, they all suck.

Okay.

All these pathetic establishment people

trying to hold on to power for dear life.

So delusional, they don't know the world hasn't just moved on.

The world hates Bill Gates, hates Klaus Schwab,

hates Barack Obama, hates Michelle Obama, hates Joe Biden, hates Keir Starmer, hates Emmanuel Macron, hates them, hates them, hates them, hates them, and knows you're trash.

And the world hates Benjamin Yetan Yahoo.

And 80-something percent of the Israelis don't like him.

So we're going to get into the big developments and play a very important clip before I get to Trump's statement he just made about this $600 million plus deal with Saudi Rebbe and more.

But before we do that,

we have a new flash sale

that is only only running for a few days

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Like, I don't think that most people just going about their day in the United States have an opinion either way about Kirstarmer.

None.

I think they're largely oblivious of

maybe they know who he is.

Yeah.

Maybe.

I mean,

I guess if you wanted to,

I don't think hates is silly.

I think it's ultimately there is something that he is talking about, which is that everybody resents these people because they feel like they are never held accountable to the choices that they've made that affect other people.

Sure.

And

a lot of those examples, you could describe that way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And if you want to call that hate, then it might be right to say that you or I hate Bill Gates.

Sure.

But that's certainly not the same thing that Alex is saying when he hates Bill Gates.

No.

Which is, that's the breakdown.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't, I think, I think

there is an element of emotion behind it.

Obviously, we we're all pissed that these people are allowed to do whatever they want without any consequences, of course.

But at the same time, it's not like nobody's wandering around going, oh, I heard him!

Except for Alex.

Well, or what everybody appears to be if you just take in everything through Twitter.

It looks like everyone is

in a ball about Kirstarmer.

Right.

Right, right, right.

And that's the reality that Alex is reflecting.

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I've been trying to get a still shot of that with the blonde wearing it in the red shirt.

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I think it should be a bestseller, but it's not.

I don't think we've ever shown it actually on air.

I've been trying a few months to get that on, but I don't know why.

it's like a, I'm not mad.

It's like certain little ghosts of the machines.

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So, a lot of amazing shirts.

And

again, when I tell you it's an adventure to wear one of these shirts,

you'll get your dinner bought for you in small towns and even in big cities, and you'll get pretty much nothing but love.

Except, you know, occasionally you might get coffee dumped in your head or

something like that.

But

wearing one of these shirts is pretty close to being out in shots.

Buy my shirt, man, it's a gamble.

That's an interesting

pitch.

You might get a free meal.

You might get scalded.

On the whole, it evens out.

Yeah.

That's what's important.

I think that I was thinking about like what the most common experience you're going to have if you're somebody who buys Alex's shirt for an adventure.

Yeah.

And I think it's the feeling of everyone immediately clocking you as an idiot and then politely ignoring you.

Yeah.

That's the experience you're going to have nine times out of 10 out in the wild if you're wearing one of his shirts.

People are going to maybe be pretty nice to you because they don't want you to yell at them.

Do you know what the irony of that shirt is, right?

You're buying it because you're listening to InfoWars, which probably means you have a natural predilection towards paranoia.

You're wearing it, and because of that, everyone is looking at you for at least a moment.

And I don't...

Look, I'm not stupid.

I get that there's an overlap with the pinky ring.

I'm just.

I get that there's a little bit of.

There's an experience.

It's an experience to wear a pinky ring.

Yeah.

It's an adventure.

It's an adventure.

Yeah, absolutely.

But I just, I think that

most of the reaction you're going to get is people just not wanting to set you off.

Yeah.

If they even understand what your shirt is.

Yeah.

Most people probably just have no idea

or care.

And then the people who do know will be like, uh-oh.

Yeah, they're just going to be like, if I make eye contact, there is a 50-50 shot.

Somebody is going to tell me a lot of things that I don't care about.

Yeah.

I do a show about Alex Jones, and I was in Indiana with Marty at one of his shows and there was a guy with an InfoWars shirt and I was like, I'm gonna keep my distance.

I'm perfectly equipped to talk to this guy and I have no interest.

None.

None.

Don't have the time for it.

It's my job and I have no interest.

If you see a pinky ring on the Alex Jones show.com store.com

That would be God.

I would do it if I were him.

I would do it.

That would be a real

just yeah just to fuck with you.

I would do it just to fuck fuck with you because it's in a way that nobody could like deliberately be like, oh, see, he's.

Yeah.

I would respect it.

Yeah, I would respect the hell out of you.

Oh, I would fuck with you so hard.

Yeah.

So Alex, a lot of this episode ends up being him being really mad at Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.

Okay.

Pundits who are like, they are not mad enough about al-Qaeda being in charge of Syria.

Okay.

And so Alex is mad at them that they aren't mad enough.

They're mad about Hamas.

Sure.

It's tough for him to articulate exactly, but he's quite mad.

I don't want to hear it.

That is a serious war crime by NATO, Turkey, and Israel to go destroy Syria and turn it over to the most radical scumbag foaming at the mouth al-Qaeda trash.

I don't want to hear moralizing out of Mark Levin

and all the other neocons that are left that pose as constitutionalist

or the Ben Shapiros.

Oh yeah, take your shot.

It works.

Oh yeah.

Oh I'm against Trump's tariffs.

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

I'm done.

And emblematically, all of their neocon media operations that had billions pumped into them like the Daily Wire are collapsing because populists and conservatives see through it.

And

if you don't think Trump is risking his life telling Benjamin Netanyahu no,

And if you don't appreciate President Trump, and if you don't pray for him,

then all I can say is you need to have your fucking head examined so alex's position here checks out with most of the things that he's professed to believe he didn't want asad to be ousted and he's mad at people like mark levin and men shapiro who aren't being harder about the new president of syria being a former fighter linked with al-Qaeda that anger makes sense but he's not really dealing with the fact that Trump is fully supportive of the new Syrian government.

Alex is saying, even at the beginning of that clip, he's saying that Turkey helped overthrow Assad, and it was Turkey's president Erdogan who set up the meeting between Trump and al-Shara in Saudi Arabia.

Yeah.

Much like with the Qatari plane, this is an angle of the story that I'd just skip if I were Alex.

Being so mad at these other hosts only reveals that he doesn't have the same expectations of Trump that he does of these other pundits.

Yeah.

And that's not good.

Yeah.

No, just avoid that shit.

Yeah.

Entirely.

Alex can handle

a Middle East when the Iraq Iraq war is happening.

Yeah.

Because there's the Iraq war and everything else.

You know, all you have to think about is America, we hate Muslims this year.

That's what's in.

Now there's so many different political factions vying for little, a lot, much.

I mean, more or less, like, it's all over the place.

There's no clarity of morality within any of that.

Yeah, it's kind of like Alex can handle that shit when it's on pundit easy mode.

Yeah.

And when there's more complexity added to it, he just sounds like an idiot.

Yeah.

And that's kind of where he is trying to justify being mad at Mark Levin and fine with Trump.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

What are you doing?

It's insane.

So, Trump, I don't know if you heard about this.

Did you hear about the big, beautiful bill?

Uh-uh.

What is the big, beautiful bill?

Oh, my God.

Don't make me.

You didn't hear about this?

No.

He's got a big, beautiful bill.

Okay.

All right.

Yep.

Okay.

It's how our government's run now.

That's how it does.

Yep.

Oh, inflation's down.

You got to read the financial papers to know that.

Oh, you don't want to hear this anywhere.

Here it is.

House Republicans released Trump-approved tax plan.

The one big, beautiful bill, tips, overtime, and family paychecks to get huge boosts.

Doing everything he promised to do.

Classic populist, blue-collar

Democrat policies before

the 80s.

It's really funny to just flash back to Alex screaming about the Patriot Act and they choose this name in order to trick you, sheeple.

Yep.

The Big Beautiful Bill.

I just want Big Beautiful Bill.

That sounds like the most evil shit.

I mean,

Alex just cheers it on.

He's like, yeah, good.

Great.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

So Ron Johnson, who's a big Trump supporter and recent 9-11 conspiracy proponent, said, The big beautiful bill, I think it's the Titanic.

As it stands now, it does not look good that the Republicans are going to get this thing passed.

Gotcha.

To be totally fair, there are a number of good things in the bill, like cutting tax on tips and overtime and increasing the child tax credit.

But there's also a lot of really bad stuff in there.

According to a Washington Post analysis, there would be $625 billion in cuts to Medicaid and $677 billion in rescinded climate change-related spending.

They would also spend over $2 trillion extending Trump's 2017 tax cuts, which disproportionately favored the rich.

As with any budget-type bill, it's a complex mix of different interests pushing and pulling.

But with Alex, it's this oversimplified shit.

Like

when he boiled down the tariffs to is 30 bigger than 10?

Yep.

You know, that's...

That's the level of shit you're going to get.

There you go.

Big, beautiful bill.

I love the idea of like

oh we're gonna focus on overtime and tips which is like one if you're reporting those you're the most honest person in the history of the world do not pay taxes on your tips what are you insane

and two those are the number one places for wage theft overtime and tips are the number one places where owners and operators are like technically we're supposed to you got to go yeah but in the in the sense that a lot of those things are places that are vulnerable for wage theft it is better

to free them of any tax burden.

For sure.

It is better.

For sure.

No, no, no.

Absolutely.

It is better.

But if you're going to tell me about a cup and you're like, oh, I'm going to pour some water into this cup, it's going to be that, but then only a little bit of water comes out.

Practically speaking, that's very frustrating.

Sure.

Yeah.

And then I might spit in the cup.

Yeah, you're overselling it.

Yeah.

A little bit.

So, Alex,

he's decided, he's looked over all the angles on this, the deals that Trump is doing with Saudi Arabia.

And he's decided it's all cool.

All of it.

And when Trump tells Saudi Arabia to go all in with us, invest everything,

the media spends it like, oh my gosh, his family's got a couple business deals over there with golf courses and stuff while they're building a hotel over there.

Yeah, he's allowed to have businesses.

He's allowed to share in the success.

No, he's not.

Saudi Arabia reportedly.

He's not, though.

And then, oh, he's screwing you.

No, he's not the one cutting off the Keystone pipeline.

He's not the one killing the drilling.

You know, Elon Musk came out yesterday and he said

there should be no subsidies for EV cars, no subsidies for EV charging stations.

You know, you don't see subsidies on gas stations.

Now, where is he doing stuff for Elon?

Not.

So glad that corruption watchdog Alex Jones has taken a look at Trump's dealings with Saudi Arabia and decided they are all above board.

It was looking pretty transparently corrupt for a minute there, but Alex is the expert, so I'm going to go with him.

Funny story, though, Elon didn't say that, although he did go with Trump on his trip to Saudi Arabia, which is cool.

The world's richest man, who may or may not still be involved with a fake government efficiency office that's reshaping our administrative state, but isn't a public official, he just came along with a state visit for fun.

Alex should be really, really pissed off about this trip because Musk wasn't the only billionaire who tagged along.

Sam Altman and BlackRock CEO Larry Fink were also there, which definitely does not make sense

in Alex's world.

If you're trying to make sense of that from the story that Alex has told you, why is Larry Fink there?

I think we have a legitimate situation here where we could try and pull off of two popes.

You know, like if you want, if you want to be in the government right now, you have a thorough argument for just being like, I'm taking over because all of this is unconstitutional.

So fuck it.

It's mine now.

Like, you can do that.

And I bet that if you let Trump keep using foreign policy for profit, he wouldn't mind.

He really wouldn't care.

You'd be like, oh, now we've got two presidents, and then this one, and people would probably be fine with it for the most part.

One of them gives rambling speeches about how the other president is cute that he's pretending to be president.

Yeah, absolutely.

And then the other president just kind of ignores it and runs the government.

If we're in history,

if we're talking about how historic everything is right now, here's the history of how it should work, right?

Trump is out of the country.

We don't allow him back in.

The people in the government are like, ha ha, unconstitutional.

And then he's just not allowed back in.

And that's how it works.

He can be like, oh, I'm the president in absentia.

And everybody will be like, yeah, yeah, good for you.

Sure, you are.

Stay on that Scottish golf course.

Go on out there and be over there.

Yeah.

I mean, it's a solution.

It's an option.

Anyway, Saudi Arabia.

We teased this earlier.

Yeah.

Alex brought up Trump's great accomplishment with the overthrowing of the Saudi Arabian government and killing of much of the royal family in response to the Las Vegas shooting.

I feel like that should be a Pachenek angle, but Pachenek was like, the Las Vegas shooting didn't even happen.

Yeah,

he did say it was fake.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pachenek should be the one who's straight up going like, no, it's actually the Saudi Arabian government, and now I am the king.

I think that he did have some Saudi storylines, but the shooting itself was fake.

But that doesn't mean that someone wasn't still doing something.

And he could have been involved with the lever.

That's fair.

That's fair.

So, yeah, this is where we get a little bit more information about this.

This has never even really been in the news.

Really?

But it's a fact because I know the people that were involved in it, and I told you back at the time.

Remember Vegas, the biggest mass shooting in U.S.

history that they never want to talk about?

That was Saudi Arabia

with the deep state trying to embarrass Trump,

and they ran the attack,

and they had their arms dealer cut out.

They thought he was just selling them weapons, and he was CIA-connected.

Classic.

And then what did the United States do with Trump?

He went over there with with a coalition of the reformers in Saudi Arabia,

and they wiped out

all of the leadership

in the royal family, because there's hundreds of them,

because those kings don't just have one wife,

and they wiped them out, killed a bunch of them, took them to the Ritz-Carlton and hung them up by their feet,

took all their money away, away, the ones that got to live, and said, You're on house arrest for the rest of your life.

Okay.

And if you ever try anything again, you see your brother here,

pull his eyeballs out with pliers.

And I'm not saying is that how you do that?

But that's what was done.

And that's what the Arabs recognize and respect.

That's the kind of war Trump has where you never hear about it.

Trump reportedly had over 10,000 of the the ruling class of Saudi Arabia killed

well that sounds like an international answer.

Let's just say pretty vicious stuff.

You want brutal?

It was extremely brutal with our military right there next to the Saudi military.

So they all kind of got down in the pool full of blood and became blood brothers.

Okay.

What?

I think it goes without saying that this is a nonsense fantasy that Alex has cooked up, but I'm fascinated by how the story he's telling is okay with him.

Yeah.

He's so into Trump and so racist against Arabs that this idea of overthrowing the whole government and installing a new

ruler there, no, no big deal.

Alex is not supposed to be in favor of the U.S.

installing leaders in other countries.

So even though this isn't a true story, it says a lot that he's able to rationalize what he's describing.

Yeah.

This should be a horrifying negative thing.

Like, this is what the CIA does in the past.

They've cooed countries.

This is not good guy shit.

At the very least, this is not good guy shit.

No.

Maybe you could say, like, oh, I think that in the long run, the blah, blah, blah, maybe any number of things of like, this is redeemable, but at no point in time is this good guy shit.

It's not.

I mean, eyeball pliers is

typically the work of a heel.

That's not good.

I mean, I remember back in the day, like, oh, the thing that separates us from the baddies is we don't torture.

And it's like, ah, that's gone.

Sure.

That's gone.

We're the baddies.

Well, the new president of Syria was in Abu Ghraib.

That's fair.

That's fair.

Oh, God.

God damn it.

So

I think that the way that you get around it not being good guy shit

is that they fucking tried to embarrass Trump with that Las Vegas shooting.

So you've got two militaries together in a line, I assume, and just machine-gunned thousands of royal family members.

Like, listen.

10,000 or so.

Listen, you got to get rid of the Romanovs.

I get it.

You can't have any of them living.

And MBS did end up killing a bunch of

the sort of

upper crust.

Totally.

You know, it's part of its takeover.

He's a fucked up guy.

So there's not nothing that Alex is referring to.

It's just this fantasy of Trump doing this.

What are we doing?

I don't want, even if I like the guy, even if I really like the guy, even if I think that the president is a person of outstanding moral character, I do not believe he should have the ability

to

order people to murder several thousands of people in order to overthrow a country.

Yeah.

Right?

With the, like, in service of installing the crown prince.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't want you to have that power.

No, it's messy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not good.

It can only come back to hurt you.

I definitely feel like based on Alex's career, he would agree with what you just said.

I feel like it's really not even that complicated.

I feel like a rational person has to agree with me.

And if you do not agree with me, you are an irrational person.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Alex, he's talking about how Trump killed all the Saudi royal family.

Right.

Again, crazy.

Then he gets over to cartels

and whatnot.

The old system of the CIA shipping drugs in here and laundering the money.

Trump says, you're not doing it anymore.

And the New York Times says, if Trump designates these groups as terrorists and actually shuts down the cartels, that will destroy Wall Street.

Remember the headline?

Why Trump's plan to designate cartels as terrorist groups would be bad for the stock market.

Pull the headline up.

Everything Catherine Rothson Fitch has been saying on my show for 25 years.

Trump's like, no, our business is not going to be war and fentanyl and cocaine.

It's going to be murder

and transportation and heroin.

I'm not doing that.

And Trump didn't have full control of our military in his first term.

Remember?

Yeah, there's the headline.

How labeling cartels terrorists could hurt the U.S.

economy.

The Las Vegas shooting and the installing of Crown Prince Bin Salman happened during Trump's first term.

Yeah.

Is Alex trying to tell me that this amazing story of blood and overthrow happened while Trump didn't have full control of the military?

Kind of seems like he's just talking shit.

You know, all of the things that leaked,

all of the tell-all books.

I feel like someone probably would have published this one.

I mean, I've read a few.

And I will say that

all of them have at least three or four stories that are like, I can't tell that story.

So I assume

if this story is true, it's in one of those.

Sure.

It's in one of those.

I bet it is.

It didn't get past the classified briefing kind of.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But Alex is

in the know.

Of course.

So that article that Alex is citing isn't about the stock market relying on the cartels smuggling in drugs.

It's about how there's a lot of legitimate businesses in Mexico that are run by cartels or cartel-connected people.

So So, if they're labeled as terrorist groups, it'll have the likely effect of making U.S.

businesses not want to work with Mexican companies out of fear that they might be unwittingly supporting a terrorist group.

It's an obvious dynamic that Alex pretends not to understand in order to play headline games

like this, and it's stupid.

Yeah.

He knows.

They're their own government and economy.

Either you treat with them as though they are such, or you bite the bullet and you fucking have to deal with the decades of chaos that's going to arise from trying to get rid of them.

And along the way, you might end up finding some weirdos in Utah who smuggle oil.

That is possible.

It's not possible.

It happened.

Oh.

We found some oil smugglers.

Okay.

And so Alex is skimming over this headline about a couple

out of Utah.

Out of Utah.

Who smuggled $300 million worth of oil.

Good for them.

Yeah.

And he's immediately like, oh, these guys are fucking fucking Democrats.

Utah oil type one.

What?

30 million Mexican oil smuggling scheme.

Feds raid 9.2 million mansion with battering ram.

Pull up his political background.

All right, let's start getting to Trump.

Yeah, Alex Sure jumped off that train of thought pretty quick.

Strange how a Utah and couple with a $9.2 million mansion doesn't have the same political beliefs as what he thought, maybe.

Yeah.

Sounds like a leftist in Utah, oil smuggling.

Yep, yep, yep.

So I spent a long time trying to see if I could find any indication of this guy's political beliefs.

Sure.

And I do think that I found evidence that he's a registered Republican.

There's also a James Jensen who was listed as a GOP delegate in the 2024 election, but that was in San Pete County.

And our oil smuggler was arrested in Sandy, Utah, which is a bit north of there.

It could be the same guy, but there's no way to know for sure, and

I don't want to stake my reputation on it.

Multiple homes is probable.

I would assume so.

So it could be.

But Sandy's or Salt Lake County, Salt Lake City County, or whatever.

I understand.

I understand.

So their two sons got arrested with them.

Sure.

Along with this.

And their respective middle names are Golden and Sterling.

So I think this is a family that fucking loves money.

Fuck me.

Yeah.

Wow.

So yeah, I don't think they're Dems.

I think they're oil smugglers.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's one thing that's probably pretty important for all of us is like when we talk about political ideology.

If you're smuggling oil, your political ideology is, I'm an oil smuggler.

Yeah.

The end.

Yeah.

And

I think that it's a headline that's so much funnier in your mind than it actually is.

Yeah.

Because you just picture them with bags.

Yeah, absolutely.

I was picturing them with oil barrels, and you know how you can't like just drag them.

You have to kind of squirt, squirrel on either side.

I was enjoying that image of two.

You're just just rolling one?

Absolutely.

That's not how you smuggle oil, though, is it?

No, it's probably so boring.

Yeah, it's probably they have like two tanker ships that just move oil.

Probably even pipes.

Yeah.

Ugh.

That sucks.

There were probably mathematicians and engineers involved.

So, Jordan, I know we touched on George Lucas a little bit ago.

Sure.

Do you remember the Death Star?

I do remember the Death Star.

What do you think about it?

Probably now, and I'm going to.

How about this?

I can see no reason to destroy an entire planet.

None.

So that cuts off my second question at the pass, which is, do you want one?

Well,

those are very two different thoughts.

Because I think Alex thinks we should make one.

Okay, fair enough.

The stuff the U.S.

has makes the Death Star in Star Wars look like a tinker toy.

And that's

just so ridiculous.

I mean, in the 60s, we had hydrogen bombs that would blow New York City one bomb off the map.

Not a building or two.

What do you think they've got now?

Well, we know.

So at a certain point, it becomes ridiculous.

They've got antimatter isolated,

and they theoretically

and they've leaked that they've got bombs that would just blow the entire planet, just gone,

dust.

So

it's ridiculous.

And that's why this war stuff has to stop.

That technology needs to go into spacecraft.

Okay, so that is the wrong ending to that thought.

I think I was with him up until the part where he said, this is why war needs to stop.

Yep.

Because these are too risky.

These are things we can't afford to let get out of hand.

No, no, no.

We must use them on aliens.

We have to make our own Death Star.

I'm not against.

Okay.

If we only have those options, I suppose I'm happier with the sending stuff to space than the war option.

I don't know.

I don't think so.

Because I think if you send those weapons into space, you might fuck around and be carrying out an aggressive act on another alien species that also has that technology.

Sure.

And then boom, the Earth gets blown up.

Well, the problem with...

They have their own Death Star.

The problem with that is the moment you get out into space, you're probably going to find out you're the last person to get into space.

You may, you may, but I think that as long as these technologies are kept on Earth,

everybody is a known variable.

Okay.

We're all humans.

All right.

This is all our home.

You know, Earth.

That's true.

I think once you go into space with Death Stars.

All bets are off.

Yes.

Yeah.

It's hard to feel a real connection to the land if you are a Death Star.

It's also rude.

It is rude.

Yeah.

It is rude.

Yeah.

We share the universe.

I don't think that if a Death Star showed up, we would assume, hey, there's some cool aliens.

It's a very aggressive thing to have.

Just to exist.

It's a very aggressive thing to build.

Yeah.

I don't want to be that kind of space-faring civilization.

I get it.

Yeah.

I get it.

So

there was once a boy by the name of David Hogg who survived the Parkland shooting and then became a gun rights or gun control activist.

Again, a very tragic story of a guy who's overcome quite a bit and he's moved on with his life and now he's a participant and he's doing the thing.

Yeah, he got harassed by

the health ranger for a while along the way and now has risen into a position in politics.

And Alex is celebrating that maybe he's going to lose his position.

Great.

And the Democrats have always had big problems, but they used to be the party that was least on the service anti-war.

Now they're

foaming at the mouth winning nuclear war with Russia.

Sean Penn, others.

Well, if Penn's in.

What do you make of the Democrats

and their complete and total meltdown?

They just removed David Hogg as the co-chair of the DNC because he went on Bill Maher and made pro-Israel statements.

So you've got the Democrats that are foaming at the mouth, just anti-Israel, period, and pro-Muslim.

And want to bring them all over here.

Again, David Hogg is not the co-chair of the DNC.

He was elected to one of the three vice chair positions, but an internal procedural complaint was made about the election.

One of the elected vice chairs got a majority vote, but Hogg and the other guy were elected on a, quote, combined ballot.

The DNC credentials committee voted that they would redo this vote, so there's a chance that Hogg is still going to win and be in this position.

Sure.

Alex is all kinds of wrong about this story, but he just can't help himself from trying to bully a kid who survived a school shooting.

It's nuts.

That being said, the other vice chair who's going to be backup for election, who was on that combined ballot, Malcolm Kenyatta, had some negative things to say about Hogg recently.

In response to the news about this procedural issue with the election, Hogg made some comments about how he's working with a group called Leaders We Deserve, who are invested in primarying Democrats who are seen as ineffective in office.

Hogg said, or at least heavily implied, that the issue with the vice chair election was the result of the party wanting to push this out from the

DNC so they wouldn't have these primary challengers being supported, which Kenyatta did not agree with.

He said, quote, he put out a statement saying that the Democratic Party, that the challenge yesterday is the Democratic Party trying to get him out of here.

David understands very well, like I understand, that this challenge was filed back in February, well before David ever said anything about leaders we deserve.

All of this doesn't sound good.

But honestly, what's the difference between Alex is saying about Democrats liking Muslims there?

What's the difference between that and like a Klan member in the past?

It's the same energy.

Yep.

He's become something that you don't associate with people aren't your kind.

Yep.

He's a cartoon racist.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know,

it's interesting.

I think watching the Democratic Party now makes me rethink how Independence Day, the movie, worked, you know?

Where it's like people used to argue, like, oh, if there's a world threat, people would finally come together.

No, absolutely not.

The Democratic Party could not have an easier big bad.

Quade would fucking kill Pullman's character in the real world.

Absolutely.

He'd be like, he is an alien.

He'd fly his plane into.

Yeah, the White House wouldn't even be destroyed by aliens.

Aliens could just show up, look, and then we'd be dead.

That would be it.

Yep.

Yep.

It's a bummer.

Yeah.

But hey, what are you going to do?

I mean, that is a good point.

What are you going to do?

Yeah.

So

we've covered a lot of ground so far.

Yeah.

A lot of world events.

And now it's time to touch back on the prescription drug executive order that Trump signed.

The one that's totally real and is going to super help everybody super fast.

It's a super deal bundle, power bundle.

Yeah, and in this next clip, we get to hear RFK Jr.

discussing exactly how it's going to help everybody.

It's so super fast and super cool.

Great.

And then we get confirmation that Alex is not on Ozempic.

So here's RFK Jr.

talking about

on prescription drugs that what you sell them for in other countries, you're going to sell them for that here.

And boy, are they pissed because

America is the right whale.

And I'll tell you about the right whale after this clip here, is.

Mr.

Secretary, Trump says some prices will come down almost immediately.

What is the timetable for these price cuts?

Well, there's a series of escalating steps, but you know what?

That will bring them down to European levels.

Right now, we spend, we provide, America provides 75% of the pharmaceutical revenues in the world.

And we only have 4.2% of the world's population.

We're paying

in our country, the list price for Ozemvic is $1,300 per dose.

In London, it's $88.

And Democratic and Republican politicians have been talking about for years, we've got to end these discrepancies.

Nobody has had the courage to do it because of the power of the pharmaceutical lobby on Capitol Hill.

In answer to your question, how soon will this happen?

It depends on how

enthusiastically the drug companies cooperate.

There are a series of escalating steps that we will take if they don't cooperate.

But we're very, you know, we've been meeting with the pharmaceutical companies.

They admit that this is something that should have ended a long time ago.

And I think they're ready to figure out a way to get there.

And they have advantages in this executive order, Stuart,

because we get rid of the PBMs, we get rid of the middlemen, and that's something that they've wanted themselves.

Now, Kennedy's been very critical of Ozimpic, and it's super dangerous, linked to cancer, heart attacks.

It attacks your muscles.

It freezes your guts.

I mean,

it's horrible.

It basically slowly kills you.

But he uses Ozimpic as an example just because people can understand you pay thousands for it and they pay 80 bucks.

But Ozimpic should be manned, and it shows how corrupt.

The Food and Drug Administration is that it allows crap like that out.

And that's why I get mad at people on the internet when they say I'm on Ozimpic.

Not because I mind being criticized.

I love it.

The more attacks, the better.

It just sends more listeners here.

Except people then believe that and go, I'm going to get on it if it made Alex lose weight.

You know what made me lose weight?

Intermittent fasting, stopping drinking, taking the supplements, and busting my ass.

So I was pretty on the fence about whether or not Alex got on some kind of weight loss drug, but that clip made me pretty convinced he did.

Yeah.

I can believe that he stopped drinking because his behavior has changed considerably in a way that makes him significantly less interesting.

Sure.

But if he's telling the audience that hard work dropped all that weight, that's bullshit.

I call straight up bullshit.

Also, I call bullshit on RFK's non-answer to that question.

He was supposed to be answering when prices will go down for prescription drugs, and I guess he said when the drug companies feel like lowering them.

Yeah.

We'll see.

There's escalating steps that I'm not going to explain.

Yeah, we'll take steps.

It's impossible for me to believe that RFK doesn't understand

why there's different prices for drugs here and in the UK.

He knows about the NHS and consumer protections that exist in other countries, but he's pretending not to, so he can complain about the problem while ignoring the cause.

U.S.

drug prices are high because the government lets them be high.

The drug companies would still exist if we put these price controls in place.

It would just cut into their ridiculous profits, which is what RFK is protecting by doing this bullshit song and dance that he and Trump are doing.

It's not going to help anybody.

Garbage.

I mean,

here's, okay.

This is, I feel like this is insulting.

Yep.

And part of the reason it's insulting is

RFK Jr., right,

his views are held.

His identical views are held by tons and tons of people.

Right.

You could have picked any of them to be the health secretary.

Yeah, but he's a Kennedy.

Why did you pick the guy who most obviously sounds like the least healthy person in the history of health to be the head of the health and human services?

Pick anybody else.

Pick him for a different job.

Don't make me listen to a guy tell me about health who sounds like he's going to die at any moment.

Well, he had some great stories in the

essay portion of his application.

Well, that's fair.

Pranks he's pulled.

Pranks with dead animals.

There's so many, there's so many reasons why I feel like it should not even be an argument with somebody who we don't share.

If you don't share the same beliefs as me, that's fine.

Just not this guy.

Come on, man.

I agree with you about him because he's a lunatic.

But I always shy away a little bit about voice jokes or critiques of his voice.

I have no critiques.

Get that voice away from me.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's just, I don't like to, I don't like to say he sounds unhealthy.

He sounds unhealthy.

Kind of does.

He sounds so unhealthy.

That's the voice of a guy who's dying.

I'm fine with, like, do any job.

Do any job, but the job of most health.

Yeah.

I think he also said the other day, if I'm not misquoting him,

I wouldn't, you don't need to take health advice from me.

That you're the one guy who I'm supposed to take health advice from.

Yeah.

Also, I think Alex is a little bit hard on Ozempic there.

I mean, like, it's for diabetes.

Yeah.

You know, like,

it's not just

sort of like a like the plastic surgery type weight loss drug.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I don't think he knows the issues.

Which makes me think that he's not on Ozempic.

Maybe it's another one.

It's probably, there's more than one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, so Alex earlier was yelling about Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro.

Sure.

And he returns to this, and he's quite mad.

He gets himself worked up into a little bit of a scream about

them.

Until the 60s and 70s,

it was either like goat herders,

Stone Age stuff, but some of the oldest civilizations in other areas on the coastlines, it was opulent.

He's talking about Syria.

Yeah.

Women in bikinis and and waiters with champagne.

Okay.

The West went in and funded the radical cavemen Muslims and then sent them in to overthrow all of these stable Muslim countries.

I mean, look at the Arab Spring.

Obama overthrowing a bunch of our allies, overthrowing the Egyptian government and putting in Islamicists that blew up a couple thousand churches.

And again, Israel and Turkey just did it to Syria.

So I don't want to hear it.

Oh, I speak for the Christians and Jews of America, as I played last hour.

I'm Mark Levin,

and we don't stand with Al-Qaeda.

Well, the hell you don't.

Your boss, Netanyahu,

literally runs it.

He's the last standing neocon with any power.

So I don't want to hear it.

Stop talking to me like I'm culturally and historically a military illiterate.

I'm not, Mark.

And

Trump is actually pro-Israel, and he understands that Iran is going to blow it off the map, and then Israel is going to blow them off the map, and then

Pakistan and India are going to have a nuclear war, and all the war games were all dead, you dumb son of a bitch.

What the fuck's your problem?

Okay.

You fucking megalomaniac.

Fuck heads.

Sure.

And that's what Trump's told Netanyahu, a little nicer than that, but not much more, I was told.

I mean, we're rational, sane men.

Yes, yes, you are.

Rational, sane.

Ah, we're fucked.

So what I just did there was

a little monologue I prepared from the recording of Trump yelling at Netanyahu.

Yeah.

Yep, yep, yep.

I call this play, this one-act play, the most rational, the most sane, the most men.

We are normal men who are rational and sane.

So he's like, you know, talking a lot about...

Netanyahu.

He's talking about Mark Levin.

He's talking about Ben Shapiro.

Seems like there's a...

Yeah, man, started to notice a little something.

Did you notice a little something, like a thread between the.

Yeah, I mean, it's some sort of thing that's.

It could be anything.

It could be far-right beliefs.

Sure.

There's that.

There's that.

There's also support of the state of Israel.

Totally.

That is definitely true.

They are also all Jewish people.

There is definitely that.

And I started to notice that all of the people that Alex was talking about, be they on the left or the right,

he seems to only be talking about Jewish people.

A very specific.

Yeah.

So, Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin and Benjamin Netanyahu and all of them can fly a kite as far as I'm concerned.

They can jump in the lake, piss up a rope.

And then you got the dialectic with the Rothschilds over there and the left and Soros funding all the radical Muslims and bringing them here and the universe.

And all it's just all disgusting.

And our center of the universe should not be the Jews and Muslims in their multi-thousand-year war with each other.

Doesn't mean we ignore the Middle East.

We go over there and do deals to make it prosperous.

Yeah, let's profit off it.

So I think that Alex is unable to disentangle criticisms of the state of Israel

and Judaism, Jewish people.

It's very clear.

Yep.

So I...

I don't trust his ability to navigate this.

It's pundit,

medium difficulty, or hard.

You can't handle it.

No, no.

The combination of

what?

Genetic ancestry, ideology, religion, and nationalism.

That's if you, and you use a similar word for all four of those, and any four may be...

accurate at any given point in time.

That's crazy.

A lot of, you know,

I, at times, and in some instances, don't trust myself to fully understand in a competent way to discuss some of these issues.

And I certainly don't trust Alex.

No, absolutely not.

So, we have one last clip here because Alex decides to take some calls,

and they're mostly dumb.

One of them is saying that Trump, we should keep an eye on him because he might be the globalists.

Sure.

And Alex is, he's like, oh, I don't even understand what you're saying.

He feigns confusion in order to not engage with the guy's point.

Sure.

But we got this one guy, and he's not as good as the guy who is, hey, it's morning time in China.

He's not as good as that guy.

No.

But he does reach that energy for a second.

All right.

Miguel in Texas, thanks for holding her on the air.

Welcome.

What up, Alex?

I just want to say Trump is doing a fantastic job.

The economy's on fire.

Get involved, donate.

Use your phones, record everything around you.

The psyop is real.

It's family, friends that are

controlled by the television.

That's right.

We've got to get our friends and families out of the trance.

And it's never been easier.

And the Shilogy, I just want to promote that.

I use that.

That is the real deal.

The real deal.

Donate.

Get involved.

What did the Shilogy do for you?

Libido Boost.

Hardcore.

Well, remember, we only sell stuff that's good for you and works really well because

we only sell what we take.

And again,

we want people to be happy.

But yeah, it would take literally hours to get into how great Chili is, but it's not all equal.

This is the cleanest because some of it can be bad from where it's gotten, can have heavy metals.

This is none of it.

It's all tested the best.

But yeah, the biggest thing is, the biggest thing people notice is it's a peptide basically similar to testosterone.

And that's one of the things it does does that people notice first.

But yeah, it's just, it's good for everything, but women can take it too.

Yes, sir.

I appreciate the time.

I have to go.

I have to go.

I like that guy.

I like that guy.

That guy's great.

I think there's something just hilarious about you're calling it to a show and you're like, I got to go.

I just wanted to let everybody know they should take this shit.

Why?

I fuck good

now.

And now that I've said that, I have to go.

I take this shit legit and it gives me a boner.

I got to go.

I gotta go.

I just did my civic fucking duty and let people know.

You got a low T, you get a big D.

That's what I'm talking about.

The first bit of his call, and presumably the reason that he called in, was to say that everybody needs to record everything because the Psyops are real.

Right.

We got to get our family members and loved ones out of the TV tram.

You would assume that.

So he gets that done and then tries to plug a product.

And Alex is much more interested in that.

Oh, hell yeah.

And then they get into boner territory.

I got to go.

Just a reminder, ladies, you can take it too.

I got to go.

I got to go.

I have to go fuck right now.

Your pills have gone out of control.

I can't even be on the phone for this length of time without having to go fuck.

Alex, my boner, is hanging up the phone.

Shilajit is kicking in.

Do you know what Shilajit is?

No.

Well, I kept, I heard chill, legit.

I heard chilijy.

I heard shilogy, which I thought was like a...

When I heard shilogy, I was like, maybe this is a documentary series about shills.

No.

What is it?

It's shill legit?

I feel like I don't want to tell you now.

Chillogit?

It definitely took a couple tries spelling it in Google when I first heard the commercials for it.

All right.

It's like a mineral that grows on rocks and mountaintops, usually in crevices.

All right.

And there's no evidence that it does anything.

I mean, yeah.

Yeah.

So why does this guy want to fuck so much now?

Placebo effect.

I feel like that's the easiest one for placebo effect, too.

I don't know.

You could just tell yourself.

I think, you know, if there's a psychosomatic block in anxiety or something like that.

Absolutely.

Then there's a chance that a placebo effect could happen.

But like if there's a blood flow issue or something,

I don't know if placebo is going to get you around that.

That's fair.

But try the shilajit.

Shilajit.

Shilajit.

I feel like I want to make you try and spell it.

I can't.

Shilajit.

C-H-I-L-E-G-I-T.

Okay, give me that from the top.

C-H-I-L-E-G-I-T.

Way off.

Okay.

Let me tell you, you started wrong.

Okay.

S.

Yes.

I.

No.

S-H?

Yes.

Okay.

I'll give you that much.

Okay.

Shilajit.

No, I'm out.

I'm out.

S-H-I-L-A-J-I-T.

That's how you.

Oh, fuck me.

Shilajit.

Never would have seen that coming.

No.

Nope.

I think it should be a C.

That's my controversial take for the team.

I think so, too.

Yeah.

I was thinking an S would be inappropriate for this.

This is a C.

Yeah, it doesn't feel right.

Yeah.

So we have had quite an experience here on this episode.

Alex has gotten to the bottom of the Las Vegas shooting and how it led to the overthrow and murder of most of the Saudi aristocracy.

Man, that's crazy.

We have learned that Trump...

Well, actually, I don't know if we've learned that Trump supports the new president of Syria.

Alex is mad about it.

Right.

We learned that outside of reality.

Yeah, but Alex hasn't chimed in on that so much.

I wonder.

Okay, so you've got thousands of members of the royal family.

Yeah.

Right.

As pointed out.

Then you've got two militaries getting their hands dirty, murdering all of them.

I think, yeah, I think the U.S.

military, presumably a small force, the Special Trump Force,

teamed up with the Saudi military who who had turned on the royal family

in coup style.

See, I feel like it is, I feel like that's, you're going to get information out of somebody.

Somebody's going to leak out of that, out of that group.

You can't trust them.

Not least of which, you've got Saudi military members who have already committed treason by just doing this.

It's true.

They're treasonous.

It's true.

There's a lot of loose ends.

Yeah.

A lot of loose ends.

Too many loose ends.

Yeah.

Too many.

But I'm interested to see how Alex copes.

You know?

Yeah.

Like, I think he's, I think some of his narratives are in trouble.

But you can definitely.

You know, it was like, I think our first episode, it was time to pray.

Yeah.

Because they were investigating Netanyahu.

And Netanyahu is the canary in the coal mine.

Because once they start investigating him, you know that shit's going down.

I mean.

And here we are.

Alex has

really gotten the signal that it's okay to beat up on Netanyahu now.

Yeah.

In a sense, things did start going down.

Very low.

Things went a very low direction.

Yeah.

You know,

Alex was not right, but it was time to pray.

Yeah,

that's one of those clips that I would be fine with taking out of context for any

natural disaster.

Alex Jones was right, but it was just, it's time to pray.

Yeah, well, that's fair.

It's always time to pray.

It's always time to pray.

So we will be back, and I'm particularly actually kind of excited to see how Alex tries to navigate

the Syria situation.

Yeah, yeah.

I think he's got a real thin road he can walk down, and I'm sure he's going to fall off it.

So we'll see.

But until then,

we have a website.

Indeed, we do.

It's known toy.com.

Yep.

We'll be back.

But until then, I'm Neo.

I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark.

I am Mysterious Professor.

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

And now here comes the sex robot.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your work.

I love you.