#1078: September 16, 2025

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I have great respect for the knowledge fight.

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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.

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Thanks for holding us.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a fish-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your room.

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Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan.

Dan.

Jordan.

Quick question for you.

What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

Why don't you go first?

My bright spot, Dan, is I just recently finished this book just yesterday called King of Kings.

Okay.

And it's really, really good.

It's

about Jesus.

No, it's about the Iranian revolution.

And Ayatollah Khomeini and

the Shah and all the big players, you know, the CIA, if you've ever heard of them.

Wasn't Chris Weber the King of Kings?

Do you mean the Sacramento King of Kings?

Yeah, wasn't that one of his nicknames?

Was that one of his nicknames?

I thought it was.

That'd be fun.

All right, sorry.

No, no, no, no.

It's basically the same level of importance.

But

it's really interesting.

It's really great.

And I liked it.

And it is an exhaustive listing of how everybody involved in every possible way was stupid, except for Khomeini, who was like invited to take over.

It was wild.

It's wild if you read it.

But here's one of the things that it reminded me of.

That scene in Half-Baked.

Fuck you, fuck you.

No, but that's what I'm saying.

That was great.

That one's great.

No.

It's that all of these books are written from like this main character point of view, right?

And at no point in time is anybody like, okay, well, if we wrote like, 40,000 of these books about the people who are doing the rioting and we could have just been like, oh, well, instead, we fed them.

Like, it never occurred to any of these people to be like, well, why don't we just feed people for a while and then we'll work this shit out?

Sure.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

That is a thought that gets lost in the shuffle.

Never considered.

Yeah.

Never considered.

I think that it's time to create a new political party, and that is just bullying people into feeding everyone.

I genuinely,

here's what I think.

And this is what I was thinking about.

Like, if you want to, the thing about feeding people is that if you want to feed everybody, along the way, you will wind up having to solve every major political problem we have to get there.

It ends up touching a lot of other ones.

Yeah, that is true.

And that's just a concrete, fundamental thing that you can do.

Yep.

Is just give people food.

All you have to do is feed people.

And somehow it's like, if you want to do that, you have to fundamentally restructure the entire United States.

And that teaches you a lot.

Yeah, it does.

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed this book about Chris Weber.

It was great.

Weber had a good career, a lot of injuries, but, you you know what?

What are you going to do?

What's your rights, Bob?

My parents are in town visiting.

So we've been having a nice time.

Went to dinner.

Gonna go see a state park or something.

Nice.

It's a nice time, you know?

Yeah.

Hey.

Families around.

Can't see Chris Weber anymore.

No.

I've been sassing them a lot about how they're in the big city because they live in Kansas City.

Of course.

And, you know, that's not a small town.

It's not a small town.

But it's fun.

It's fun to pretend that they're Kansas City hicks coming to the big city.

I don't know if it ⁇ I think it works.

Maybe it doesn't deserve the moniker city, but you know, what are you going to do?

Kansas Town doesn't work as well.

Kansas City is big.

You underrate it.

It's a city for sure.

All right, all right.

I think,

yeah.

Wow, they got a football team.

Yep.

They do.

But so does Green Bay, and that doesn't really count as a city.

And baseball.

That's true.

Green Bay doesn't have a professional baseball team.

That is true.

That changes everything.

Kansas City's got it all.

Probably a soccer team.

Who knows?

Does it have a restaurant by Alex Guernicelli?

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

Well, then, I guess it does have a lot of stuff.

Prove me wrong.

All right.

I can't.

So, Jordan, today we had an episode to go over.

Interesting.

We're going to be talking about a little bit of September 16th, 2025.

And that's, you know, Alex was out of studio.

He was

poking around,

having a good time out there on the road, talking to Ed Martin up in D.C.

All right.

Doing some other business.

Trying to get it it done.

And he comes back to the studio on the 16th.

And, you know, it's just bad.

It's just,

it's just real.

It's just bad.

And we'll talk a little bit about it.

But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

Ooh, that's a great idea.

So first, Dan's playing knick-knack patty whack with Saint Celine, the Quitsats Hodder Cat.

Thank you so much.

You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Next, sorry to my beautiful wife, Pernila, for breaking my toe and then listening to Knowledge Fight continuously on our honeymoon.

Also, hello, Alexander, from your loving father who didn't name you after Alex Jones.

Thank you so much.

You're now Policy Wonk.

I'm a Policy Wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And Caitlin, hippie pappy,

many happy returns from Brad and Batman.

You guys, does Alex know that shrimp are bugs?

Thank you so much.

You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And we've got a ticket credit in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much, too.

I was supposed to have this for Valentine's Day, but I'm the slacker, not Dana Jordan.

So, happy Valentine's Day, birthday, and anniversary, Devin.

Thank you for being amazing to our Raptor Princesses and the Emotional Sport Pelican to Mr.

Roper.

Thank you for introducing me to this podcast and for not losing your mind, even when you binge the entire back catalog.

Thank you so much, Jordan.

I would take a credit.

I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy Shark, bomb, bomb, bump, bump, bump.

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.

I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ.

I like to imagine that that was from you, but then I realize your wife has never backed Brutus.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.

And it would be funny if she introduced you to the show that you do.

It would be difficult for that to occur.

But I mean, it would have temporal implications, I think.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah.

So obviously, the thing that is taking over most of the media's attention at this point is Charlie Kirk being killed.

Sure.

And the ongoing attempt to demonize people based on it.

Everybody's doing great.

Yeah, so good.

I thought one sign of how deeply fucked up the world is

is that JD Vance

hosted a bit of Charlie Kirk's show

after he died.

And,

you know,

I think that there's a line between tribute and inappropriate.

And when the vice president of the United States is hosting your podcast.

Here's what I love.

Here's what I love about this is that

quite the opposite, I believe, of what everybody has been trying to do.

It has been made crystal clear that no one gives a fuck about Charlie Kirk.

No one gave a shit about Charlie Kirk.

This is purely for whatever everybody can use it for.

It's dangerously opportunistic.

It is hilarious.

Ah, man.

I mean, it's sad.

What we come down to all the time is like the stuff that we see these people do and that we witness by virtue of doing this show is fucking hilarious in a script.

Yeah.

And it is not in the real world.

In the real world, it's scary as hell.

Yeah, there were a lot of things in King of Kings that were very funny, but only because we are now in the future.

Yeah, if they're not happening and people aren't hurt by them, it's kind of funny, the idea that the vice president is hosting a shitheads podcast because he got killed.

It's, it's, it's,

how do you even properly convey the like not give a shit about this human being?

Like, if I'm the person that I would feel worst for would be a Charlie Kirk who had tried to Tom Sawyer his own funeral and saw all of this happen and go, fuck, no one cared about me at all.

I'm very useful right now.

I did not exist.

Awful reason.

Yep.

You know, I was trying to think of an analogue, even, and I couldn't come up with, like, if Terry Gross got murdered and then Kamala Harris hosted

fresh air.

It's only possible.

It's only possible in a murder of crows.

You know, like, only these

only these beasts in specific would even be capable of doing something like this.

I thought that was really funny and shocking and a sign of like how deteriorated expectations are.

Yeah.

Like the vice president should not be doing this.

Whenever we think about left or right or anyone's political stuff, like that's not, that's unbecoming.

Yeah.

Well, and I think also it, it points to the viewpoint he has of himself, which is equal to the one that we all have, which is that he's not a real person.

You know, like you're not, I understand that you're the vice president, but you're not real.

You don't matter.

You're a meaningless vestige so of course go ahead and host this podcast you're you're a you're a thing you're an idea right can you imagine joe biden in the middle of obama's presidency while they're murdering bin laden just being like hey also i'm gonna host this show real quick what yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna host wtf yeah what what what what that doesn't even track because there's no it's not even the same left-wing charlie kirk nope there's nothing like him i guess maybe some streamer or or something like that.

Like Hassan gets killed and then Biden steps in on his show.

I guess

what a weird world.

What a weird world.

Crazy.

Anyway, everything's a mess.

Yep.

So Alex is back

and he's talking about how this was

Antifa.

Sure.

Antifa done, did this.

Why not?

Thank you for joining us for another historic,

extremely

important

broadcast.

Remember, you are the Paul Revere's.

No matter where you live in the world or what color you are, you have red blood and God made you.

You can resonate with the truth or you can tune into the demonic channel and serve evil.

As for me, in my house, we choose God.

It doesn't mean I'm perfect.

It doesn't mean I have all the answers.

It doesn't mean I'm not a fallen creature.

It doesn't mean I don't have my struggles.

But at the end of the day, I choose God and I choose the truth.

And it's that decision that opens the door for Christ to come into our hearts and daily expel the temptations of the evil one and the system that many of our fellow humans have partially or completely fallen to wickedness.

This is a demonic battle that we are facing.

All right.

The bottom line is this.

Charlie Kirk's execution

last Wednesday in front of the world is a shot heard around the world.

It is

a thousand times more powerful than the sad death of George Floyd because it was deliberate

and it was done through hate

and it was done by

a system of open mind control created by the CIA at MI6 that is the trans slash Antifa movement.

So I guess trans and Antifa are the same thing now, which feels like sloppy messaging on Alex's part, but to be fair, he doesn't really have any reason to be precise.

He's created a show where everything he likes is godly and everything he doesn't like is demonic, so everything blurs together and who gives a shit?

Yeah.

Since we last recorded, there have been some developments on the Kirk killing story, and each step along the way, the folks on Alex's side of the fence have been desperate to try to find a way to blame trans people for the shooting.

Sure.

The first attempt was just to say that the shooter was probably trans themselves because they like to pretend that there's a giant trans terrorism problem and the people debating Kirk, when he got shot, the guy who was debating him was discussing how Kirk is part of pushing a hysteria around this issue.

Sure.

So they're going to push a hysteria around it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When the shooter was arrested and it turned out he was a cis white man, there were some other attempts to turn this into the kind of story they wanted it to be, ultimately landing on focusing on the shooter's roommate, who's allegedly a trans woman, who he may have been in a relationship of some sort.

with.

Great.

As far as information that I've been able to see so far, there's no evidence that this person had any foreknowledge of the shooter's plans.

And in fact, there's some strong indications that when they learned what he was doing, they were shocked and upset.

The FBI has said that they're cooperating with the investigation.

So from my perspective, I don't even think that naming this person is appropriate right now because I don't think they did anything wrong.

Nope.

It's clear, though, that this story is now like, this is what this is going to be about.

The shooter's politics are a jumbled mess, and he's just a white guy from a Trump-supporting family, so there's not a lot for someone like Alex to work with.

But it appears that he may have been in a relationship with a trans woman, so the guilt for the shooting is going to be transferred onto her no matter what.

Yeah.

And that's bullshit.

No, I think we're all doing great.

I think everybody is just really crushing it.

You know, it was, it was like, can you imagine this reaction if

from any of these corporations to somebody on Fox News talking shit about George Floyd like the day it happened?

You remember some of the things that they said about that person on TV for 24 hours and then 24 more hours and then over and over and over again.

And now it is literally like, hey, guys, maybe stop screaming, let's go kill each other.

You're fired.

Like it is insane.

It's insane.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There does seem to be a lot of cancel culture going around

now that seemed to be the worst thing in the world before.

Yep.

But oh well.

Yep.

Perpetrated by corporations who have our best interests in mind.

Perpetrated or enabled.

Yeah.

Like, you know, whether or not, like, where the ball starts rolling is, that's a debatable question, but they're allowing that ball to roll for sure.

I'm sure I believe it.

So, look, everything's fucked.

Yep.

And Alex has determined that

there is a group that planned this.

And he has all the evidence and all the Discord messages.

Okay.

It, of course, is now confirmed that he is the shooter,

confessed to it, wrote manifestos on it, huge Discord chats with more than 20 people encouraging him.

Six people the day before in the town alone who were trans supporters or trans said he'll be dead tomorrow.

Just watch.

They went online after he was killed

Wednesday and celebrated and said, see, I told you he'd be dead.

Alex is lying about these Discord messages that have been released.

There's no messages that have shown premeditation or planning of the attack.

All of the evidence that's out involves messages from after the attack, one chat where the shooter confesses to his friends, and another where he's joking around about how a doppelganger is trying to set him up.

Law enforcement has said that they want to track down the members of these chats, which is about 20 people, not because there's advanced knowledge of the murder, but because these people would be close to the shooter and possibly able to provide some insight into his motives.

Bottom line, Alex is just lying and making things up because it's way easier than having to prove something, and none of his ding-dong Septogenarian audience knows what Discord is.

Yeah.

So he can just say it's all on the Discord.

Yeah.

And great.

It's like the white papers.

It is a fundamental disadvantage to even give a shit about what actually happened.

You know, like

you're in the space where giving a shit about what happened is the absolute furthest thing from your mind.

It's how can I make this as much as possible?

Yeah.

And that's, you know,

it's difficult to explain, but like it feels like we're in a situation where Alex has gone from, like, he would play defense

about shit and make shit up, and it was a pretty aggressive kind of defense, and now he's playing offense, and

you can't.

play defense against his offense without playing the same game that he's playing.

You surrender your ability to care about what's actually happening in order to play a defense against this.

Yeah, absolutely.

And

I don't quite know how to articulate it, but

it feels like it's a trap.

Yeah, I mean, what we're watching is all of these people dig gold out of Charlie Kirk's fucking coffin.

They're just digging as much gold out of there and trying to suck as much money out of his corpse as possible.

And then you have to pretend to play a game where they're like, oh, isn't it terrible what what happened to them?

The game that we're playing is you guys are getting money from this.

That's what it is.

You guys are getting money, and you are pushing

hate a lot further than you were probably able to

last week.

You know, there's the palpable

demonization you're able to justify based on

the stories you're telling about this.

And yeah,

I just don't know what to do.

I mean, until people are more uncomfortable with digging gold out of a corpse than they are with saying, fuck that guy,

I don't think what we're going to do is anything different.

It's an imbalance.

Yep.

So Alex touches on the news of this roommate slash possible partner of the shooter.

And you have the eyewitnesses and the neighbors of him with his trans boyfriend, both of them dressing like clown creatures,

other gimp-like creatures in the house,

the town reportedly completely infested.

This is what's going on in the elementary, middle schools, and high schools.

This is the type of sick

system that they're setting up.

Remember the CIA in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s, over 30,000 children in West Germany given to convicted pedophiles to, quote, create a new family,

a new culture.

Well, that's been done through this in the West as well.

And it is absolutely, totally, and completely backfired.

That clip is insane.

Yep.

It starts with anecdotal stories of the shooter and his roommate being dressed up like clown creatures and then gets extrapolated out into a claim that this whole town is infested, presumably by LGBTQ folk.

In his head, Alex connects this story to a headline he remembers about Germany, which he misremembers as being about sending 30,000 children to pedophiles.

That was a real story, but Alex is fudging some details and avoiding context.

And then he basically is saying that the same thing is happening here in our elementary schools and everything.

This is just an elaborate fantasy that Alex has constructed to reinforce his bigotries.

And man,

it's a mess just hopping from lily pad to lily pad.

Yeah.

Yeah, it is so fucking, it's so frustrating.

It's so fucking frustrating to listen to this shit go.

Like, like,

here's what I'm thinking of when I hear that shit, right?

I'm thinking of how at the end of World War II in Japan, right?

They had people going around with these cars with giant speakers before the Americans would come anywhere near them that was like, please don't kill your children and yourselves.

Americans aren't cannibals.

But because that's the propaganda, that's what you had to do.

You had to convince people of this level of shit.

Then you would see people who'd killed themselves and their own children to avoid being eaten.

And it's like, this is what happens if you convince people of such bullshit.

This is the same thing.

This is getting people hurt for bullshit.

It very much is and will.

Yeah.

And we need...

You know what sucks?

It's like, I don't feel like those kinds of trucks would be effective right now.

No, absolutely not.

That's what cannibals would say.

Exactly.

Exactly.

That's exactly what they would say.

These fucking fucking trucks are paid for by the cannibals.

Absolutely.

The cannibals.

When did the cannibals stop eating each other long enough to build trucks?

Yeah.

That's a bummer.

Yeah.

Anyway, there's a satanic trans organization that is behind this murder, apparently.

And Alex has cracked the case.

Got it.

All right.

Thank you for joining us today.

We're now getting a crystal clear picture of a trans antifud devil cult in Utah that was absolutely behind the murder of the great Charlie Kirk.

And we have ongoing continued mass celebrations, not just here, but around the world by leftist demons, pastors and members of Congress, and just thousands of teachers is the main group, lawyers, doctors, scientists, absolutely celebrating Kirk's death.

This celebration stuff is still just Alex whining about social media posts.

I just want to make it clear that Alex doesn't actually want to play the guilt by social media association game.

If he thinks that people posting TikToks joking about Kirk's death are distasteful, wait till he sees what fans or guests of his show have posted in the past.

Because I don't think he would enjoy that much.

If he was forced to take responsibility for the shit these other people have posted, please.

I think I recall him being in a courtroom taking responsibility for some of these things, and he didn't do it.

You know what?

And it was big of him to take responsibility.

It was, wasn't it?

Yeah.

Also, he seems to be setting himself with a really difficult case that he now needs to prove.

He has literally nothing to go on other than vibes, and he's claiming that there's a full-on satanic trans cult behind Kirk's shooting.

This is just dumb, but it doesn't matter.

His audience is never going to demand that he prove this.

Yeah.

It's just, yeah, of course there's a

devil cult.

And it's not even like they care if it's actually a devil cult.

They could even just be like, oh, yeah.

No,

don't worry about it.

That's just his way of saying normal trans people, which is worse.

Yeah.

Yep.

Yep.

So Alex wants fucking arrests.

Yep.

And big ones.

Yep.

He wants the federal government to fucking crack down.

Sure, onto everybody.

Yeah, it makes sense.

We have thousands of innocent J6ers arrested, old ladies, drug off to prison for walking between the velvet ropes being waved in on J6.

Those people were innocent.

With the left, they're openly

terrorist, calling for violence,

engaging in violence.

And when they break the law, they need to be absolutely prosecuted to the full extent of it.

And if I don't start seeing serious arrests,

and I mean within days,

I am going absolutely ape

against Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, and Dan Bongino.

If I don't see some action to protect the American people, then you are aiding and abetting it.

I've seen a bunch of foot dragging on everything else, and I know they've been blocking your appointments and suing you and everything you do, and I understand you're got an uphill battle.

But on this, it's cut and dry.

I want you to do your job right now, and I'm giving the FBI and the DOJ, and Trump's on their ass, I can tell you that.

I was just in D.C.

He's yelling at them.

I'll tell you, someone who started doing their job, the person who does the delay button.

It was surprising not to hear shit.

Yeah.

He's gotten real loose with swearing.

I feel like I've heard some swears.

Yeah.

So if there aren't any big arrests soon, Alex isn't going to war with Bondi or the FBI.

This is such an empty threat.

But I think he also definitely means what he's saying.

Sure.

He feels this way.

Right.

But there's never going to be any follow-through.

The things that Alex wants the Trump administration to do are illegal on a basic level.

He wants to use the idea of the Kirk killing to to be used as a pretext to clamp down on tons of LGBTQ organizations on the pretext that they're supporting the, quote, trans ideology that was behind the murder.

Alex wants to see the largest crackdown of civil rights and the largest violation of those rights in the modern era, and he knows that kind of thing has to happen fast or it won't work.

His whole career has been about screaming about the Hegelian dialectic and how the globalists create chaos so they can bring in their preferred form of order.

That order wouldn't be appealing to the public if the public weren't being terrorized by the chaos that the globalists created, which has the effect of corralling people to their chosen solution.

As they look for safety.

In the past, Alex has pretended to be opposed to this kind of leadership, but it's clear that he's neutral on it at best.

And if you're going to usher the population around based on manufactured crises and that you want to use as focal points, it's important that you act quick.

It's not a coincidence that the Patriot Act was passed about a month after 9-11.

There was momentum, and if they waited much longer, some of the stuff they wanted to put in that bill might have run into trouble and not passed.

This isn't really all that different.

Alex wants a huge, very illegal response from the state, and he knows that the window of opportunity to use Charlie's death is slim.

As horrifying and shocking as it was, we live in a world where passions die down fast and attention moves on to some other very pressing story.

Alex is demanding immediate action within days because delayed action isn't an option.

He knows that you got to strike while the iron's hot.

Yeah.

We didn't do anything about Epstein.

He didn't either.

I think we, no, that's what I'm saying.

Like, if I'm any of these people, I'm going, well,

all of the Epstein stuff, we lost pretty hardcore on every possible front.

So, one, this is, again, very, thank you, Charlie.

Thanks for helping.

This makes us all feel a lot better about ourselves.

Thank you for reheating the iron.

Yep,

we really did not strike while that iron was hot and demand any change.

We said we were going to really demand a lot of change.

Absolutely.

And then we whiffed.

So you've reheated the iron and we're going to demand again.

Oh, yeah.

And then later probably be like, ooh, next time.

I mean, the idea of after

Epstein, after all of that, to then be like, now we're going to put pressure on Patel and Bonty.

Guys,

you're under their boot.

Be done.

When we're talking about clown creatures,

you all have

yourselves.

Yeah,

it's almost impossible to take any threat of Alex's

with any kind of like, oh, this time I'm going to be mad.

Sure, you are, buddy.

No, he's best friends with the baby raper.

You're fine.

Yeah.

You don't, if you're not out now,

no amount of leverage exists.

You're just a real ding-dong following along.

Yep.

So Alex has decided that he wants the death penalty for not just the shooter.

No.

Everyone in those discords.

Everyone.

We have armies of scum forming, celebrating murder, celebrating death, giggling, laughing.

It is absolutely out of control.

This is their John Podesta-funded insurrection.

This is the main crisis for our republic.

So I want action, and I want action yesterday.

I want it now, now, now, now.

Glenn?

And you got your warrants?

Now.

I even got mad.

I love our riders of our crew, but they always want to be very restrained.

Oh, it appears there were people with prior knowledge in the town.

It doesn't appear.

They're like, he'll be dead tomorrow.

Watch the day they kill him.

See, I told you,

you have prior knowledge.

You're aiding and abetting.

You didn't call the police when you got told your buddy in your cult was going to kill.

Turns out he knew these people, not just online.

At least 20 in the Discord, at least six in the town.

You knew he was going to kill Charlie Kirk and, God forbid, shoot other people that weren't even the target.

And you didn't do anything.

You are an accessory to capital murder.

I want them arrested.

I want them indicted.

I want them tried for aiding and abetting in capital murder as accessories.

And I want them to be given the lethal injection.

I want them dead.

Huh.

That's what we do to people like that.

Protect the Pistol American people.

Arrest these terrorists, give them fair trials, and then kill them.

Kill them.

Federal government.

Do your job.

Kill them.

Kill them.

Kill them.

Kill them.

All right.

We're not taking it anymore.

So, yeah, put that on his.

Wait, who's not taking it?

If you're telling the government to murder people, I think we are taking it.

Look, it's disorienting because of Alex's entire life.

But him screaming that the federal government needs to kill people.

Kill them.

Kill them.

Kill them.

Where are we?

What?

Do you want to?

We're where we were all along.

It's just there's no pretending anymore.

For sure.

He's not pretending to have some kind of like.

I'm just...

No, now I'm just interested in the logistics part.

Okay, so now we're past it, right?

Obviously, the government's just going to start murdering people left and right, right?

No, just left.

Exactly.

What are the logistics, though?

You know, like, how are we doing this?

Are we, are we doing?

I hate to sound like a broken clock or whatever, but Daleks with guns.

I mean, that's, I feel like firing squad is the way to go.

Let's go classic.

Especially with Daleks.

I want, yeah, well, I'm an ever-green idea.

AI is now to the point now where we have to put Daleks with guns in there.

And, of course, the dreaded Soylent Green trucks that Alex has said were coming with COVID.

Yeah,

I'm going to go with Blindfold and Cigarette.

I'm fine with that.

I'll go out like that.

These days, it's going to be a vape.

The motherfuckers!

Blindfold and a vape.

Finally, finally, there's a reason to hate modernity.

You know what it's going to be?

It's going to be VR goggles and a vape.

You know what?

That's, hey, listen.

You watch a little VR port and you get shot in the head.

Oculus and a fucking jewel.

God damn.

What a world.

Yeah, I think that there's something just inherently fucking embarrassing about being Alex Jones and yelling that.

Yeah.

Like,

I don't know.

There's something embarrassing about being anybody who says that the government should kill people, just on account of like, think about what governments do when you're like, hey, kill people.

Not good.

Never.

It's never gone good.

It's so funny because Alex takes credit with popularizing the term democide.

Yeah.

Which is

Murder by government.

He's such a fucking loser.

God damn.

You know, here's the thing that gets me about people who really do kind of tend to know the Geneva Conventions.

How willing they are to throw them aside at any moment's notice.

Yeah.

Like, collective punishment is wrong.

How about, ah, hear me out.

What if we killed everybody who was nearby at any given point in time?

That's the only way to be safe.

That's the only way to be safe.

Damn.

Yeah.

So Alex wants to crack down on the left because,

you will do your job and you will protect the American people, or we will have your ass removed and we will find people that will do their job.

Quite frankly, most of the feds are running around arresting illegal aliens and gangbangers that are illegal aliens, and that's good, but I think half of those should be cut back now and put on domestic terror operations

for the avowed left saying they want full.

I mean, in the MSNBC headlines, we've done major polls.

Majority of Democrats want blood, want war, want to kill.

Yeah, we know.

What?

We know.

What show is this?

So do

your

job.

Yeah, there's Nordine famously when Andy tries to hit him with a metal baton that can kill you.

He knocks the guy out defending himself, and they call him terrorist for that.

Oh, you're a terrorist.

Somebody tries to hit you you in the head with a metal baton.

Boom.

That's what they don't like.

Well, that's what the constitutional federal officers under Trump's command have a right to do.

It's symbolic as Nordine.

They're swinging at us.

They're killing us.

They're attacking us.

This is what you do through

the courts, through law enforcement.

That's what law enforcement needs.

That's what the Trump administration.

That's what the FBI must do now.

This right here.

So to be clear, when Alex mentions Nordine, he's talking about Ethan Nordine, one of the Proud Boys who was charged with seditious conspiracy for trying to overthrow the election on January 6th.

Sure.

Prior to that, he was a street fighter guy

in the Proud Boys.

And,

you know, that guy was coming at him with a baton because he had already assaulted people.

Right, right, right, right.

Do you remember his nickname?

Based Sick Man?

That was a different guy.

Oh, I don't know.

Was it just Baton Man?

No.

Roofy Opan Pan Man.

No, it was that guy.

Ethan Nordine was Rufio.

He has a name?

Yep.

They should have taken it from him.

Yep.

Roofy O Pan Man is the model for federal police.

This is what they should have done from the beginning.

I'm sending them to prison.

Terrible idea.

J Sixers, remove their names.

Make them go by their stupid names.

Absolutely.

Your name is done.

We have removed it.

Yeah, so I mean,

I think that Alex is showing a little bit too much of his ass, but What are you going to do?

This is.

Do you know what?

Okay, look, I love that the feds are out there trying to catch all people they suspect of being Democrats.

I mean, obviously.

I love that they're doing that.

Now, half of them should start building FEMA camps to put the left out.

Well, yeah.

I mean, honestly.

Obviously.

We need to maximize our resources.

Here's what I don't get.

Right?

This is, again, this is the thing that I just don't get.

I mean, I understand.

Oh,

we're all so angry.

Yeah, that's fine.

But this doesn't actually accomplish your goals, right?

You know, like if your goal is to get rid of the left or whatever, the FEMA camp thing historically always just makes people like hardened, and then there's a terrorism, and then there's a revolution, and then we do it all over again.

Right.

Unless you learn from the lessons of the past and be harsher.

No, that's the opposite of how it works.

Right, maybe.

But I think that

you have to look at this from like a sort of there's a bifurcated goal sure and there's the you know working towards a society that crushes the left sure and also alex making a lot of money yeah and this is a lot of this is more in service of of that yeah that is a good point he's like speaking to an audience that wants to hear this yeah and that's more like obviously it's closer to where his heart is also sure um but he's now living in a world where you don't have to pretend that it's like, oh, so scary.

The government, oh no, they're going to get

new world order.

Oh no.

You don't have to do that shit anymore.

Yeah.

You can be like, we run this shit.

We're in control.

The Rufio Pan Man is a hero.

I find it strange to think that somebody...

Because we're of the age, right?

So somebody's in the army right now or whatever, who's my age, like this guy grew up

when Limp Biscuit was on TRL, right?

And then now he's going to get an order that's like, start killing regular people, and then he's just going to do it.

Like, that's crazy.

Well, he just got to keep

rolling, rolling, rolling.

Exactly.

You know, that's what I'm saying.

Like, what a wild thing.

Why wouldn't you just be like,

really?

No, I don't think so.

You know what I would say?

Those orders got passed down.

Yeah.

Give me something to break.

Trying to think of some other limbiscuit.

I was going to say, I ran out of gas immediately.

When fascism rises, we are all in together now.

We are all limp biscuit.

So the media,

everybody, they want to flood the zone with all this fake stuff about Charlie.

Trying to make him look bad now that he's dead.

Right.

Right?

Well, I mean, Nazis tend to look bad.

But only

if you make up stuff about them.

If you don't, then they get to be angelic little cherubs forever, like Charlie deserves to to be.

Okay.

But let me tell you something else they're doing.

I'll get into a little bit later.

They are flooding the internet, just like with Trump, with fake quotes.

Remember Trump?

I hate all Mexicans.

Never said anything close to it.

Remember Trump?

I think the KKK are very fine people.

Remember that?

He said the opposite.

He said the KKK are not very fine people.

Overhead shot ownership.

Will this, please?

They are flooding the internet with stuff like this.

Black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously.

You have to go steal a white person's slot.

Charlie Kirk, July 23, never said anything close to that.

Absolutely not true.

So, Alex says that Charlie said nothing close to that, but here's what he said on his show on July 13th, 2023.

Quote, if we would have said three weeks ago that Joy Reed and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Kataji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racist.

But now they're coming out and saying it for us.

They're coming out and saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action.

Yeah, we know you didn't have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.

You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

The unfortunate reality is that Charlie Kirk was a racist, and he recorded him saying a lot of the stuff that takes away from the saintly image that Alex and his ilk want to create now that he's dead.

These statements and his career remain.

They're real.

So in order for Alex to deal with that, he's just decided he's going to lie and pretend like, oh, he didn't say that stuff.

No, he did.

He absolutely said that stuff.

That's what, that's the problem.

That's my point about all of this is that what all of these people wish they could do now is remove everything that made Charlie Kirk a human being and just simply have their version.

Yep.

Like, essentially, they want to, I guess, kill Charlie Kirk.

He is, he, if they're able to sanitize his image in the aftermath of this, he is worth so much more to them dead than alive.

Yeah, absolutely.

They don't want to.

As alive, he just goes to more of these college events and argues with people.

Yep.

And he makes a lot of money.

And, you know, there are gains that are made in terms of,

you know, conservatism on college campuses having a stronger foothold.

You know, there are benefits to his continued push.

But for folks like Alex, especially, like, this is far more useful now.

Yeah, no, they love that he's dead, which is ironic how their entire thing is about being mad that people are like, hey, it's fine that he's dead.

But here's the ironic thing, too, is that like Alex agrees with what Charlie Kirk said

in that quote.

Of course.

But he knows that I have to make him out to be like the most middle-of-the-road person who was killed for his really tame speech.

Totally.

And just polite disagreements that he was having with people.

So

in order to sell him as this martyr, Alex has to deny things that he agrees with Charlie about.

Everything that Charlie Kirk was, everything that made Charlie Kirk Charlie Kirk needs to be sanded down until he is a fucking store mannequin.

Yeah.

And they can dress him however they like.

Yep.

So if anybody's killed Charlie Kirk, you got it.

Yeah.

They're actively involved in killing

the memory of what he actually was.

I would be, as a person, you would be like, don't do this to me.

Yeah.

Like, I think that

it's making a misrepresentation of his history to pretend he was wearing a swastika and yelling slurs all the time.

Of course.

Like, that's a caricature of him.

Sure.

But Alex is doing the opposite.

Like, he's making a character in the other side where he's just like a good Christian boy who just wants to pray and everyone hated him for it.

Right.

And both are insulting versions of

his memory.

Exactly.

Anyway, Alex gets to talking about how Antifa, you know, those guys,

they need to be

terrorists.

Trump needs to treat them as such.

Sure.

Let's go to Trump.

This is Trump

asked if we should designate Antifa and other radical groups as domestic terror.

Yeah.

They literally call for the violent overthrow of the government, call for violence to shut people's speech down.

They've killed a bunch of people.

They're literally funded by Soros.

They've been killing a bunch of people in Europe.

Now, 10 members of AFD that were in the lead have died in the last two weeks.

It was four, five, six, seven, eight.

Now it's 10 magically died.

Activate just attacked a bunch of them over there violently.

It's an international terror group.

Yeah.

Absolutely, freaking lootly.

And 40% of them on average are crazy trainees.

Great.

I mean, this is just nuts.

So there have been seven AFD candidates that have died in the run-up to their election, but that isn't as statistically crazy as it it might sound.

Nine non-AFD member candidates have also died, and a lot of this is because this number includes all the local elections and really minor races.

There were over 20,000 candidates in the elections that these candidates came from, and maybe that number of deaths seems a little bit high, but on its own, it doesn't prove anything other than it looks high.

The German police have said that there's no sign of foul play in these deaths, but I guess Alex knows better.

And why waste an opportunity to pretend that you're a victim?

Sure.

Incidentally, just today, as we're recording, Trump did decide to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, which is to say that he put a message out on social media.

Okay.

The king has made his decree.

All right.

Quote, I'm pleased to inform our many USA patriots that I am designating Antifa, a sick, dangerous, radical left disaster, as a major terrorist organization.

That was all caps after Antifa.

Oh, that's nice of him.

Yeah.

This just makes me think of all the fun we we had with Alex and the MIAC report and how scandalous it was that the government could even acknowledge that some people within the militia movement were domestic terrorists.

How, like, that was the bread and butter of this show.

Yep.

None of that was sincere.

No.

Nope.

Nope.

Nope.

Not even a little bit.

Nope.

But at least everybody wasted a lot of their time arguing with it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's crazy to me because

I think, like,

there's a good good faith reason to possibly have humored some of

Alex's stuff.

Sure.

But like I think that

because a lot of people weren't paying attention, maybe people took it too seriously.

And it festered into a lot of this that we see now.

I mean, it's better to argue about something that's fictional than to deal with the truth.

That's kind of,

that's America's epitaph right there.

Better to argue about something fictional.

You know, there's another deeply ironic thing, and that is that Alex's whole thing, his whole FEMA camps and like, oh, they're going to lock us up, all us patriots and all this, that was based on Rex 84,

which was a plan to lock up leftists and

communist subversives.

So like Alex now wants to do Rex 84,

which was the plan that he pretended was a target on him.

Anyway, he should go to hell.

He's a real piece of shit.

Yep.

Yep, yep, yep.

You better believe it.

But one thing you can't take away from him

is that he's always right.

My North Star is the truth.

What I really believe is what I say.

And that's why I'm right 98% of the time, more than anybody else out there.

That's what I thought you was a trans cult that did this.

We had questions.

It looks like there might have been a group piggybacking on it.

I'll get to that later.

Now that we've had time to ferret into it.

There is evidence there was a shooter behind him at about 70 yards.

We'll be getting to that later.

And when the globalists and different groups are in the Discords, they can piggyback with their wind-up assassins like crooks in Pennsylvania.

So I go

where the facts lead me and where my deep knowledge of all the different facets go.

I'm the guy that taught the public about false flags.

When I first talked about false flags 31 years ago, no one, I mean, 1% might have known about them.

But now people think everything is a pure staged event.

Well,

you can also hype up these movements and basically take MK Ultra style control from beta to through the culture, through the drugs, through the media, through the Discord channels, and create basically the same thing, but then have plausible deniability.

Vindicated again.

That's a bunch of word salad, but like, I think that Alex is right about one thing.

And he's also wrong about it at the same time.

But that, like, he taught everyone about false flags.

Yeah.

But it's not teaching.

No.

He exploited the idea that things could be a false flag.

Right.

And then made everyone think that everything was a false flag until proven otherwise.

And now he's snakebitten.

He has cultivated

an audience that's like, well,

everything's fucking fake.

Yeah.

And

he doesn't want that mentality applied to things that he wants to be real.

He doesn't want this Charlie Kirk assassination to be viewed through the same prism that he would treat something like Sandy Hook or the Boston bombing, because that gets in the way.

Yeah.

Now it's not helpful.

No.

No,

it is interesting because what he's taught some people

is how to use a tool to get money.

Right.

And other people, he's taught how to turn anything that they're afraid of or don't want into a fictional story.

Right.

And

the double side of that is he's taught some people how to make money with this tool.

And he's taught other people to accept this

as an explanation or a useful way to look at the world.

Yep.

So these people can make money off of it.

He's created a customer base.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

He built a product and then now everybody uses the product and a lot of other people make the product better than him.

And he's like, well, but I was the one who built it.

That's it.

He is capitalism, man.

Yeah, he's the victim of his own shit.

Yep.

He created something that is a shortcut and is empty calories, basically.

And someone's come along with a better version.

That's exactly right.

Yep.

And

you should understand that.

I mean,

it seems like if you're super into capitalism, the one thing you should understand is when you're getting a capitalism done to you and when you're doing a capitalism, right?

Yeah, and I don't know what amount of rear guard action Alex is going to be able to do to retain any kind of relevance.

I don't know.

Shit moves on.

We all die.

That's life, man.

Yep.

And when you die, people will try to make a ton of money off you by wearing your skin and doing college tours.

Yep.

Yep.

That's great.

Yep.

Good stuff.

Oh, God.

It's going to be 2016 all over again with these shitheads trying to steal Charlie's thunder.

Oh, God.

We're still going to keep going.

Free speech tours.

Still going to keep going.

And then there's going to be a whole new wave of people being canceled and having specials called triggered and stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Great.

I would really, I tire of people saying, well, how about let's run it back?

Because I feel like that's my, that's what we're getting a lot.

Yeah.

Getting a lot of that.

Let's run it back is fun for a nostalgia,

like, yeah.

Let's get the dream team back together and have them shoot some hoops

for a commercial or something.

Michael and Scotty, get them all up there.

Maybe even Larry Bird.

Fuck it.

Charles Barkley's like, can I play?

Absolutely not.

We all have a great time.

This isn't what we want to run back.

This is no good.

Sucks shit.

Nope.

So we got one last clip here, and it's Alex just saying that, you know, like, hey,

if there's any racist violence, it's fake.

Yeah.

Anything that happens that's inconvenient for me is going to be fake.

Great.

And then Destiny says, oh, what if he gets killed?

Well, somebody might kill him and blame us.

That's what we're talking about here is the incoming false flags of the final ingredient.

Remember, I told you all this when Trump got back in.

They pre-programmed it.

Now they're going to engage in terror attacks on traditionally black colleges, black churches.

That's what they've already programmed, and illegal alien demonstrations and say it was done for Charlie Kirk.

And now they've evacuated the black colleges, saying, Oh, Charlie Kirk's the white supremacist.

Not true.

The white supremacists called and made threats and bomb threats because of Charlie Kirk.

So when there's an attack, everybody's pre-programmed.

Oh, the school told us that

Charlie Kirk supporters were coming to kill us.

See how the frame job is already done,

Just like they put out

all these fake quotes.

Notice, never video, just an image of Charlie saying black women are stupid and should never be able to have a job.

Said nothing even 1% close.

Doesn't matter.

I mean, you know, the NGOs, you know, anti-fur of the leftists.

called in the death threats and bomb threats at the black colleges and it's happening at the churches and then they say we got to evacuate the whites are coming to kill us

ahead of the attacks.

It's just that simple.

It's that simple.

So,

there's an element of this that I think is really weird that is like, I feel like Alex is taking agency away from racists.

You know, like, I think, like, if I were someone who is a big old racist, and maybe I had some violent tendencies,

I would see Charlie Kirk, and I'd be like, there's a racist.

Yep.

And I might be mad that someone killed him.

I think that there's a chance that I would want to commit some kind of violent act and retribution.

It's generally how it works.

Alex is taking away their ability to do that.

Yep.

It's just not even a possibility that some racist would be like, hey, they killed a big racist.

And I'm mad now.

Yeah.

Which is one of those things where it is like on, it's so many, it's the two levels of conversation that are being had, right?

There's the, this is how you make money.

And then there's the believe this shit and give us money, kind of that.

In the same way, there's, there's this, like, um, I'm running cover for you so you can do this stuff, but unfortunately, because of the way we talk to each other, you only hear people don't do this stuff, you know?

Like, you, if I, if I explain to you clearly why saying that you won't do it is allowing you to do it, then I would also have to explain all the other shit that I don't exactly do.

It gets in the way of me being able to

get this message across to the real people that it's for, which is the people who are going to continue giving me money, who might stop if they recognize that

a big part of what I'm doing is running cover for someone to go attack a black church.

Exactly.

It's a big tent of people I'm lying to.

None of whom understand each other and all of whom are participating in the own lie that they believe in.

Yeah.

This messaging is laser focused on people who would never do anything

like that,

but

would start to maybe question what they're mixed up in and what their ideology is really about if they, you know, saw things like Patriot Front and Nazis marching saying.

Are we the good guys if we have shock troops who murder people indiscriminately just because they belong to some group that's kind of like somebody?

Don't worry about it.

It's fake.

There we go.

That makes way more sense.

So we are the good guy.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

We're so good that people have to pretend to be us and do bad things in order to make you think that you're bad.

They're making you question yourself by playing dress up.

You know what?

It would require serious, motivated reasoning to believe any of that, which is great for me because I have all of that motivation.

I believe it all, baby.

I mean, if you can sell people this like

blue drink, then I think that you can probably go ahead and get people to believe everything's fake.

Ain't that the truth?

And then complain about how everyone thinks that everything's fake.

A bunch of assholes.

Oh, burn it.

Anyway, this is a little bit of a shorter episode, but I got family in town.

It's family.

It's family stuff.

I got time to spend with the family, and we'll be back next week with

you want some longer bullshit?

Yeah, I'm sure we'll have some more long bullshit.

Yeah.

Yep.

But

one last thing.

Yeah, yeah.

We do have some.

so for everybody, we have not yet sold out the December 18th show, so there are still tickets.

So if you were holding back out of courtesy to allow other people to snatch some tickets up,

you can, if you want to come to both, open season.

Yep, and it will sell out.

So just do it whenever you got time.

There'll be a link in the description.

You bet.

So yeah.

Anyway, we'll be back.

With something so fun.

A different universe.

We'll be building a time portal.

Yeah.

And we'll be traveling to a different section of the world.

That's what I'm going to do.

I'm going to sit down and I'm going to be like, let's find something fun.

I think that's a great idea.

I will fail.

Yeah.

But we'll be back.

Until then, we have a website.

Indeed, we do at ZollegeFight.com.

Yep.

We'll be back.

But until then, I'm Neo.

I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark.

I am the Mysterious Professor.

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your work.

I love you.