Bek Lover: The Art of Never Giving Up and Inspiring a Generation

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When I look back now, it's like, oh my God, I lost three years. Three years of my life in sorrow.
Yeah. Welcomeick unplugged the number one podcast for self-improvement leadership and relentless growth no fluff no filters just hard-hitting truths unstoppable strategies and the mindset shifts that separate the best from the rest.
Ready to break limits? Let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of McUnplugged.
And I'm excited to be in person, in studio with someone that I've looked up to forever. He doesn't know this.
He's about to hear it for the first time on how he inspired me to really go deep in my podcast. We're talking to the former head leader.
He told me he did everything timeshare. He was the timeshare guru, Legend.
The ethical timeshare guru.

That's a very rare breed. My man, Mr.
Beck Lover. Beck, how you doing, brother? Mick, nice to see you, brother.
Good to see you, too. Welcome to the Big Apple.
Long time coming. What's left of it? Long time coming, man.
A couple of big bites got taken out of it the last four years, but we're trying to put it back together. We're going to put it back together.
I believe in us. God willing.
I believe in us, man. So, so much I want to talk to you about, but I wanted to tell you, man, face to face, brother to brother.
You're one of the people that inspired me when I started the podcast to really be myself, because if there's anything about you, you're yourself unapologetically. And so I said, wait a second, this is my podcast.
I can do what I want, talk about what I want with no repercussion. And it was after listening to like 10.
I binge listened to like 10 of your episodes. And I said, I can be me.
It's OK. No one controls me on what I do.
This is my voice. And I want to thank you to your face.
I didn't even know. I mean, you're sure you didn You listen to my episodes lately.
You might turn it off and say this guy's out of his mind. But that's why I love you.
That's why I love you. Sometimes we got to be out of our mind.
You're talking about the comeback team? Absolutely. One nice interview.
Yeah. We're going to launch season two soon, man.
Yeah. I really miss that work.
Yeah. You know, speaking of podcasting, right? Yeah.
It's what brought me and you here. And when I started that show five years ago, almost six years ago, at the age of 30, what am I, minus seven, so 37 years old, I just walked away from a very lucrative career selling timeshare in New York City.
Yeah. And I wasn't happy in life.
I wasn't happy with the work I was doing. I was happy with the money, but I wasn't happy personally.
Yeah. And when I started that show, I really, first of all, I didn't have any experience as a podcaster.
I had no experience in production. I knew I could talk because to succeed in sales for 20 years, you got to be able to talk, right? Right.
If you can't talk, you're a starving salesperson. Yeah.
Okay. So I knew I had the ability to talk.
I knew I had the ability to connect with people. And I said, okay, I know I have the skill that's important for podcasting.
The rest of the stuff, I'm going to learn how to do it. And I launched the comeback team with nothing, man.
Nothing. What gave me a little bit of morale in the beginning was, you know, the first season I went from is where sales comes in right sales i'm telling anyone i'm looking at the camera i don't care if you don't want a career in sales it is a skill you must learn in life absolutely you have to learn yeah because you're gonna have a very mediocre life if you don't and what do i mean by that it's not about trying to sell someone and and do a hard sale and it's just really learning how to listen which I struggle with at times, right? And how to connect with people.
And that's really what sales is in essence, right? Listening, understanding, looking for what they need might be on both sides. Like what do I need from this person? What do they need from me? And is there a way we can connect? I i mean that's sales in essence right yeah to not learn this skill of how to ask the right questions when to ask when to speak it's not like if me and you both got the same words in a word bank right let's say that we each got a hundred words and they're the same exact hundred words it's like chess we both get the same pieces but how we play them can determine whether we're going to succeed or not or if you're going to make the sale or not or connect or not everybody's different how they might react to words is different their humor is different right so you could say one thing that a hundred people find funny but this one person takes offense to it so you know when we're communicating these are things that you know a salesperson i think with time through baptism and father's a lot of people i pissed off brother yeah and not intentionally you know especially in time sure it's a very intimate um meeting where you're going back and forth and back and forth and and you know people can get angry man you know and you're pushing them it's high pressure so you would be foolish not to learn how how to at least learn about the process of sales.
Yeah. It's life-changing.
Wholeheartedly. It really is.
Wholeheartedly. So I started the show and I convinced.
I went from begging him to just come on the show to he actually ended up co-hosting for like the first season. Right.
It was Arthur Noscarella from The Sop seen him a lot of big movies copland with stallone and he was in billions which i love that show but i don't like how it fizzled out yeah you ever watch i don't really watch a lot of tv but billions was a show i love because it kind of brought the whole new york dynamic politics the corruption the blurring of the lines i thought it was very very well put togetherwell and all that, and then he disappears with the plane, right? Yeah. So Arthur was on a lot of these big shows, and I met him smoking cigars and convinced him to come on, and then he's like, you know, okay, I kind of like this.
And then, you know, then 2019, everything closed. Yeah.
So nothing else was going on. No.
So he stuck around for a while because they weren't shooting. So it was like, you know, I truly

believe this. Your destiny, yeah, there's

free will, but some of it's

written for you too. Meaning, you

gotta take some steps, man. And then the rest,

you know, God opens the doors for you.

There you go. But to hear what you told me,

I can't even believe that you even,

you got more followers than me, man.

You know, how the hell did I inspire you?

Hey, but it's the God's honest truth, man. And I meant that from my soul.
Were you on Clubhouse? No, not at all. I was a legend on there, so they threw me off.
Yeah, you know, that's the cycle with you, right? Like, you get thrown out of everywhere. Well, Clubhouse, you know, I think they got theirs, though.
You know, I got thrown off not because of what I was saying, because I was allowing people to speak.

Correct.

And have open conversation.

Correct.

And push back what was happening, you know, in 2019, which I did not agree with the way they handled things.

And I felt there was a lot of shady things going on, which I think time has, if anyone has half a brain, can see that something just wasn't right about the last five years of our lives.

Whether it's New York.

The fact that Governor Cuomo, no offense, I don't know if people support him.

My best friend was just with him yesterday.

What do you think? that something just wasn't right about the last five years of our lives whether it's new york the fact that governor cuomo no offense i don't know people support my best friend was just with him yesterday would even entertain bringing this guy back and i'm not here to get into politics i hate it but i also talk about it but not on your show um i can't believe this guy's even running did we forget why he stepped down like right whatever and did we forget about whatever leave that on the side so for me you know to hear that come out of your mouth man and that that's actually what kept me going and what's weird mick is i went from being a host of my own show that was kind of like no one really knew yeah to now i'm the guest that everybody wants on their show man which is crazy and my even my followers were followers were like, bro, we don't care about your guests. And I've had some big guests, man.
I've had Rachel Ray. I've had Carole Baskin of Tiger King.
I'm talking about when the show popped. That was like one of the first interviews she ever did.
I've had Havoc of Mob, Deep Legend of Hip Hop. I mean, I love the guy.
And I go from doing these interviews to everyone's like, man, we don't care about the guest. We just want to hear you rant.
I mean, you want to hear me? Yes. They're like, yeah, we want to hear you, man.
You inspire us. I'm like, and I start getting emails from people.
Yeah. Because that, you know, my first podcast really was about trying to inspire people to never give up.
Yeah. No matter what you've been through.
I've been through a lot of, you know, listen, this is not a competition of who's had a more tragic life, right? Right. Eventually, I don't care who you are.
That's coming knocking one day. You're going to lose something that's irreplaceable.
Someone you love. That's only a matter of time.
Yep. A mom, a dad, a brother, God forbid, you know, a friend, whatever it is.
If you're going through a great time in your life, it's only a matter of time before the darkness comes, the sadness comes. And sometimes it catches us off guard, and a lot of people don't know how to handle it, and they don't know how to get back up.
And what do they do? They turn towards ways of numbing the pain. It carries over into their work life.
So speaking of Time Show, when I was doing it, it's a very intense job yeah you're doing two to three presentations a day you got 90 minutes to convince some person who doesn't want to be there okay we got the free room to go to the timeshare you have the company has in essence bribed them right to come and listen to you tell them why they need to spend between 30 and 120 000 and 90 minutes most people don't buy a car in that amount of time right okay that they want and that they're willing to spend more money on to buy and what's the mindset of the customer in timeshare billboards on the way there do you own a timeshare are you looking to get rid of it they put on the radio do you own a timeshare you're trying to get out yeah our timeshare sucked okay so and they had to be bribed literally you know made a really good offer to say hey you want to come spend two nights in new york city we're only going to charge you 150 bucks when the room rate 700 or 500 right but you have to come and listen to beckford an hour and a half yeah okay and they're coming in very standoffish clothes. Listen, I'm just going to tell you right now, whatever you say, whatever you do, we ain't buying.
Those were the easiest ones. They were like shooting ducks in a barrel.
Okay. Those clients would come in.
I'm telling you, no matter what you say, no matter what you do, we're not buying nothing. I'm like, and I swear to God, Mick Hunt, I swear to God, I would say, sir, in about 90 minutes when you're signing the paperwork, you're like, damn, he was good.
Right to their face, bro. You told me that.
I was that person. For those that don't know, I came to see Beck.
I was a timeshare. It's like Beck, man, I'm not buying a damn thing, bro.
I'm counting down 90 minutes. And Beck said, I'm going to leave this paper right here.
Eventually, you're going to come back. 20 years later, I still have a timeshare.

Do you?

You've seen it in action, huh?

Yes, sir.

Now, there is a thin line, right?

Pitching heat.

Yeah.

Sizzling too much.

Flat out line.

And I've seen it in the industry.

And that's why the industry is, it's really not the product's fault.

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The reason Timeshare has such a bad reputation out there is because of all the dishonest salespeople, of misrepresenting what the product does just to get a sale. I'm happy in my entire career, and I worked for the big three, brother.
I worked for all. I worked for Marriott, Hilton, okay? Very short time period with Wyndham, okay? And I'm happy that in my career that I did there, it wasn't, you know, long ago, about seven years in that world, never once did I have someone ever come back to me and say, you lied to us or you did this or a formal complaint.

The only letter I ever got in my entire career in Timeshare

was the guy wanted a two-bedroom.

And in New York City, the units operated like two bedrooms,

but they weren't.

And I told them this and they saw it and they still purchased it,

but he's like, nah, I changed my mind.

It's not Beck's fault.

That was the worst letter I ever got in my career.

And one of the most high-pressure environments you could be in. And as a salesperson in that world, the stress that a time share, this is what breaks a lot of them, brother.
You're on a wheel, right? And it's called value per guest. So I see X amount of customers a month, I get a rank.
And the higher my rank is, the more often I go out.

The more often I go out, the more money I can make.

So if I'm not closing, eventually I fall off the wheel.

I'm dead.

I'm done.

I'm not earning a living.

There's no salary.

So it's a very intense process.

So you were considered good if you had like a value per guest.

It means every time you shuck a hand, the company is making $3,000 to $4,000. That was considered good.
Okay. I was averaging like $7,000 to $10,000, $12,000.
Wow. $1,000 every time I shuck a hand.
Wow. Okay.
They didn't want me taking off. Right.
But it came from being baptized out of fire also because what happened was I started with like 100 people. And within three months, there's only five of us left.
Okay. That's how many people survive in survive in that industry yeah and there's a lot of corruption in that game the managers that control the industry because they have their team in there their friends they look at the new guys as expendable yeah so they would do a lot of feeding so like let's say a tour came in from beverly hills and then one came in from bangladesh it's not the stereotype, but just the amount of money someone's going to have from Bangladesh or Albania where my family comes.
So I'm compared to Beverly Hills is night and day. So Beverly Hills comes off the elevator.
They would give it to the people that were already there long before me. Didn't matter how good I was.
They were all boys. They were all in on it.
Yeah. Okay.
And they were giving me tours that most people couldn't close. And I got got angry that's like the albing in me i wanted revenge i said you think you're gonna you think you guys are gonna eliminate me no i'm gonna outsell all of you yeah and that's what i did damn back i became unstoppable yes sir but the hardest part of my career wasn't that it's that during that time period i lost somebody so that's where i wanted to go right so it's very close to Let's talk about.
It's devastating. Let's period, I lost somebody.
So that's where I wanted to go, right? That was very close to. Let's talk about.
And it's devastating. Let's talk about tragedy and overcoming and what that's like, because you still have mouths to feed, right? Like you've still got to go through it.
And I think resiliency is one of the superpowers that you have. So let's talk about that.
Having kids makes you a super person, I think. You know, if you're not putting your kids first as a parent, there's something wrong with you.
As down as I was, and I was down, man. So I lost what I call my brother.
And there's sick people out there that tried to even attack me publicly saying, he wasn't your brother. He's not your brother.
He's your mom's brother. Stupid.
This guy raised me. My mom's brother was only 10 years older than me.
He was like my older brother. He took me everywhere.
He was like my mentor. He paid for everything.
This guy raised me right my mom's brother was only 10 years older than me he was like my older brother he took me everywhere yeah he was like my mentor he paid for everything this guy took me everywhere he gave me the name beck lover i literally have this name because of him may he rest in peace he gave me this name making fun of me because i was into hip-hop when i was younger and i was rocking the mc hammer stuff you know the big pants and he sees me say yo yo beck lover And I like i'm like damn i like i swear to god i was like 56 grads like i like the sign of that so i was like yeah i saw some people call me beck lover he literally gave me that name and then became a nickname wow and now the world knows me by it but so i was very close to this person and i lost him suddenly in a car accident right at the age of he was 42 i was only 31 okay and it was devastating i had been through horrible things in my life and i lost family in the kosovo war in 1998 i lost about 28 people wow okay cousins and their cousins and i spent every summer with them and it was in the republic of kosovo which at that time was a part of the former yugoslavia which erupted into war in the 90s and you you had Bosnia and Croatia, and then Kosovo, and I lost a lot of people, man. So I know what it's like to get a phone call and find out 28 people that you love and care for, your family that you see every summer, is wiped out.
And that's a devastating thing to go through. I was underneath the World Trade Center when it got hit, right, at the age of 19.
I went to Pace University right here in downtown Manhattan. E-Train, last stop, World Trade Center.
So I know what it's like to come out thinking the world's, like, you know, going into the subway and the world's normal. And you come out 15 minutes later and you're like, did I just go through a portal? Like, did I just go through a time warp? Like, where the hell am I? Yeah.
Because it's snowing outside, but it's September. Yeah.
And it's not snow. And I'm looking up and I see people start jumping off buildings, right? So that's how my day started at the age of 19.
So I've seen a few things in my life. But putting that all together, losing Nicky for me was like atomic bomb.
Wow. One of my life.
Wow. It was the most difficult thing that I've had to deal with because of how close and how important he was to me.

And I couldn't picture life without this guy anymore because he was so important to me.

Yeah.

And helped me shape a lot of my identity.

He gave me a lot.

He's the one that always told me, what are you doing, man?

People love you.

You're wasting your talent.

Why are you working?

Go into Hollywood.

I said, I don't want to be an actor. He's like, dude, you belong in front of a camera your time.
Why are you working? Go into Hollywood. I said, I don't want to be an actor.

He's like, dude, you belong in front of a camera.

Yeah.

What are you doing?

People love you.

You inspire people.

You make them laugh.

You make, like, people love you, man.

Yeah.

And then, you know, losing him, man, it just, it was devastating, brother.

You know?

So walk us through the steps of moving.

So I was at work. Yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, I'm going to work in the morning i take the ferry into the city there's traffic in my town there's never traffic like that i'm like what's going on somebody died on river road i'm like who the hell dies on river road make the story short i'm going around my own brother not even realizing it's him that sound i get to work and at this time i worked for hilton in the the biggest hotel in new york the hilton on 54th or whatever it is right.
That sound. Damn.
I get to work. And at this time, I worked for Hilton

in the biggest hotel in New York,

the Hilton on 54th

or whatever it is

right here on 6th Avenue.

That's where Trump,

the first time he won,

he held his acceptance speech there.

So I get up to the penthouse

because that's where

they would sell the units.

And I get up there

and then I see

all my family calling me.

At the same time,

I'm like,

this is not good.

Something bad's happening.

The fact that my aunts

are all calling me,

they never even call me.

Right.

Something's wrong.

So I pick up

Thank you. there and then i see all my family calling me at the same time i'm like this is not good something bad's happening the fact that my aunts are all calling me they never even call me right something's wrong so i pick up to like get your uncle's house right now i'm like what do you mean like just get to his house now i'm like can you tell me why they're like i don't want to tell you over the phone i'm like okay so i already know someone's dead yep i'm praying at the time it's my grandmother maybe something you know but in my heart i'm like it's probably him man it can't be him and make the story short man i'm like frenzied i don't know where i'm going i get downstairs i'm trying to hail a cab this is like you know before uber really took took over yeah and i make it back and you know i'm in the cabin and my other cousin calls me and says hey man Nicky's gone I said dude I just went crazy punching the roof nuts the poor cab guy man he's like brother are you okay I said nah man I'm not I'm sorry man just get me to the ferry man and I went back home years Nicky you know people go through a hard time in life and I understand sometimes it's weeks sometimes it's months sometimes it's years brother for you sister for you it might be decades but you never give up man that's it you can't and to say that I didn't feel like I had in some ways, I did.

I felt like I did.

I'm inside of a man cave.

I was never an introvert.

During this time period, I became fully introverted.

It's crazy.

It's like the complete opposite of who I am.

That's how you know something's wrong with Beck.

Right.

This is a guy who will talk to anybody.

Yeah.

Anywhere, anytime.

And now he doesn't even want to talk.

And now, let alone, I got to go sell sell timeshare and i used emotion as a weapon yeah in sales yeah i mean i was lethal with it and um now i'm like i'm like i go from being one of the top sales reps to i'm about to lose my job i'm literally 90 days in because you get three months in that they give you three months to pick up and everyone felt bad everyone knew what had happened like they're like this rock star it's like what like you know yeah my managers felt bad everyone felt bad for me and they're like shit man we're gonna lose him you know like we're gonna lose clear we're gonna lose and i'm on my last knees man and i remember that time and it was it was rough bro wow it was rough i couldn't control the emotion yeah so where i would try to get it out of my clients it was mine was coming out too much i'm the one crying on the table not the i would make them listen and hard sales i'm sorry make them laugh make them cry either way they will. The problem was I was the one crying.
So, it was crazy, man. And then, you know, something kind of came over me, man.
I heard him. His voice.
He's like, he always told me, never give up. Eye of the tiger.
He would always say that to me. Eye of the tiger.
Nicky. I'm looking at my kids' pictures and I don't know what happens, brother, but I go on a freaking rampage, bro.
I broke like a sick record that month. So I'm on like final warning about to be fired to like I sold a half a million dollars that month.
I made like 50 racks. I saved my job.
Yeah. And I came back out of the abyss, but I wasn't healed yet.
But at least I had gotten back to the point where I could work. There was something therapeutic about work.
I think a lot of times when people go through tragedy, they go into isolation. I think that's where you become devastated.
It's okay to pull back for a little bit, but for not too long. Because if you do, you can go into a very dark hole.
And it might be very hard to come back up. And I know because I kind of did that.
So I think having the routine after tragedy, as know, as hard as it is to go to work and, you know, friends, like let your friends talk to you, man. You know, you need people, man.
We're social creatures. That isolation destroys us, man.
You know, even these podcasts, you know, like what you're doing right now, there might be one person listening to this right now that changes their life, Mickey. Yeah.
And the impact, you know, and I'm sure you get messages all the time. To me, that's what kept me going throughout all all of it there's always the thought of I can't give up so many people before me didn't give up my family I saw them after the war they lost everything people died they didn't give up how am I going to give up over this how can I be the one that gives up my great grandfather did 28 years in a communist prison he didn't give up how am I going to give up like shame on on me if I give up because we're gonna die anyway and when you realize the great equalizer like hey no matter what we're all gonna die so wherever they are I'm going and we might as well go out swinging and then that kind of breath you know in faith I do have faith in the creator that breath is kind of what what led to all of this and which is why we're here today.
That's why I started the Comeback Team. Yeah.
So for the listener reviewer right now that's going through something, whether it's tragedy, it could be divorce, it could be loss of job. That's another horrible one too, man.
Divorce is devastating. I don't think people understand it until they've been through it.
It's devastating. Yeah.
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And so many people have gone through them, are going through them, and will go through them. You're not here forever.
You can't let this one or two events dictate the rest of your life. You know, having a purpose for life, man.
Like really having a purpose. Like today when I, you know, came into the city, you could see it in people's faces, man.
You know, there's two types of people that wake up in the morning. There's the ones that look miserable.
They're like, man, you could see them. They're at the bus stop.
They're going to a job that they don't want to go to. Then you have the ones that seem a little bit more alive and right.
And you can, to me, I've always said, those are the bosses. Those are the workers.
You know, having a purpose for your life. It's not just about money, Mick.
For money, I would have stayed working in time for the rest of my life. I made a great living there.
Yeah. I was not happy.
So until you find a purpose for your life, and if you can't find it for yourself, then find a purpose for other people, man. Mm-hmm.
Give some meaning to your life, man. Yeah.
So when I said earlier, like my kids. So, yeah, I'm going through tragedy and trauma i like but i so i put myself my kids need me i gotta i gotta get through this you gotta have a why right yeah like the great say like les brown and eric thomas yeah you gotta have a why what is your purpose man is it just to make money and then that's it like okay maybe you don't have kids like whose life can you make better yeah because if you're not you're being selfish and then maybe that's part of the reason why you're having a hard time that's it find a higher purpose man life is so damn short yep fight for something man if you can't fight for yourself fight for someone else exactly it's kind of always been my my my approach with with this type of stuff yeah and you you kind of just went to where I was going to ask you next, because I talk about your because, that thing that's deeper than your why, like that real reason.
And it shifts over time, right? So if we were to say today for Beck Lover, man, what's your because? What's that thing that keeps you pushing and going through? So things have really transitioned in the last couple of years. So I never went into podcasting to really get political it was actually the one subject matter that i was kind of avoiding people will look at my content i'm like this guy's full of crap no go look at my first season of my podcast then something happened in 2019 where i kind of got you know galvanized because i didn't like what was going on okay and i'm not just for the record not republican or democrat right i believe is an illusion if i was to be classified yes i'm someone that leads towards conservative values family and all that stuff and business and god and blah blah blah but i don't believe in ramming it down people's throats right so i end up going on the danny jones podcast huge podcast And I'm there to talk about just random stuff.
And somehow religion came up. And, you know, I am Caucasian, but I'm of the Muslim faith.
Right. So I'm not stereotypically what you would classify and the ignorance that a lot of people have as what a Muslim would look like.
Right. They're usually someone with a huge beard and a turban around their head and they talk like this you know yeah so i've always you know i'm coming from an albanian background and and seeing what my family lived through during the occupation of kosovo under the brutal serbian regime under molosevic and just knowing what it's like to see that and learning about it as an American, what happens to the African-American community here.
I was always, like, inspired by these people who would push back against that type of evil. You know, as a child, I watched the movie Gandhi like 20 times.
You know, the movie Gandhi. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just these social injustices that have existed have always spoken out against but just never really publicly on the internet I went to protest my whole life against the Bosnian war what was going on with my people and stuff like that going on these shows that came out of me and it just broke the internet we're talking about billions billions of views yeah you know and i was going through one of the darkest times of my life another personal thing that i won't get into but it was another because just because you went through one bad thing doesn't mean it's not going to come back again correct something horrible is going to happen correct right because it's just a matter of time right and you know and make the story short my phone's vibrating one day i'm at a really low point right now this is like a few years ago my phone's going like yeah i'm like what the hell's going on bro you're everywhere bro what do you mean tyrese gibson just posted you i'm like tyrese there you go baby boy bella hadid this one that one uh every i'm like what the hell is going on like I couldn't believe it myself man it just went viral now it's at the point where I literally go outside and I swear to god I get stopped all the time and I'm like huh Mick Hunt got more followers than I do man only got 130 there's people with my face and my name I swear to god online that have way more followers just using my name it's crazy and I'm'm like i got 30 000 this guy's got like 180 like on tiktok i got 180 000 followers on tiktok my name all the content's mine yeah why do i leave it up because he's clearly doing a better a better job of marketing me than i am i swear to god he's a better me than you know and he was respectful he's like sir i am making money with your contact I said good you're doing better than I am he goes sir I would like to give you

half the money outside I said don't I don't want nothing I said the fact that you had respect

and that you tagged my name keep doing what you're doing but there was one weirdo

who was like literally trying to pretend like he's me like I gave him like okay you could post

but then I see him like my friends were right on me, not knowing that it's not me. Same picture, just a Beck dot lover.
Not Beck. Mine's Beck lover.
His is Beck dot lover. They're like, I miss you.
He's like, yeah, I miss you too. I said, listen, my man, this is your first warning.
I don't mind that you're doing what you're doing. But if you try to impersonate me or athlete with people I know, or even just people in general, we're going to have i'm gonna strike the page right okay brother i won't there's probably some guy from pakistan or somewhere i don't know of course the way i'm picking on the asians today mr humanist but they know i love them they know i love them beck loves all beck loves so yeah man you know and that's the whole thing starting where we started from the beginning of this starting a podcast not realizing what was going to happen.
Having no experience. I had every reason not to.
Family saying, you're stupid. What are you going through? A midlife crisis? Oh, you're making a fool yourself.
My mother. Stop already.
You're making a fool of us. Yeah.
Okay? But you know what you want to do. There it is.
We always do. I knew this 10 years ago.
Yeah. And what did I do? I'm living my life for everyone else except for me.
I know the gift that God gives everyone a gift. Most of us either A, are too stupid to realize what it is.
B, be too scared to operate on it. Or, you know, C, don't believe, man.
So like, basically, you know, there's someone out there that, you know, you're listening to this and you make the best apple pie on earth.

And you don't realize that that was the gift.

It wasn't to be an amazing basketball player or a public speaker.

It's that you literally make the best apple pie in the world.

Babe, he's talking about you.

Okay.

My wife.

And how does God tell you this?

Everyone tells you. Hey, what's her name marcy marcy marcy i love your apple pie please make us one oh marcy for the holiday can you make your pie hey marcy uh my teacher is having a bake sale could you you know can we can we and that's your clues man that's your gift yeah that if only you would realize that okay this is my gift everyone has a gift some people they use their looks it is a gift i think it's a gift and a curse at the same time but i always knew i had a big mouth so did my teachers if you look it up it says in my yearbook most likely to have his own talk show i swear to god they knew it in high school now imagine they knew this in high school yeah and i didn't and i didn't i always knew.
And so do a lot of you. You know what your gift is, but you're too scared to go after it.
You don't have to quit your job. There's so many ways to get somewhere.
You know? I can go with a plane. I can go with a boat.
Right? It's the same thing in life. There's more than one way to get to the destination, but so many people just don't want to try, Mick.
They don't want to try, brother. They don't want

to try. They don't want to sacrifice

watching soccer or football

or whatever that's taken up. Xbox.

Yeah.

And procrastination,

man, is such a dream killer. That's

my greatest regret now. Looking back

at all of it, the tragedy, the success.

What I regret the

most about losing my brother, for example, wasn't just the loss of him. When I look back now, it's like, oh my God, I lost three years, three years of my life in sorrow.
Someone gets divorced, it takes them five years to get back up. I get it, man.
That heartache is serious to some people, man. Some people are just heartless.
They don't feel sure. Okay, next.
But the greatest regret, if you're young and you're listening to Mick's show right now, the greatest regret you will have in this life, I promise you, two, three of them. One, it's not going after it.
Taking that risk. Yep.
Okay? I've failed so many times, man. I don't even care anymore.
I'm like numb to it. I laugh now.
I'm like, okay, next. I've lost construction.
I've lost plenty of companies in my life. I've also succeeded.
But what I'm saying is not taking the risk, not having the faith. Because some of it, you're going to have to go on faith.
Yep. Okay? If I would have paid attention to what was happening in the beginning of my podcasting career, me and you would not be sitting here right now today.
Agreed. We would not have met this.
Tyler in the other room wouldn't be here today. These relationships, I drove cross country, I met Rachel Ray, I'm going to her house in Italy she's amazing just by knowing hey I think I have this gift, I'm going to take the risk and everyone close to me is telling me I'm stupid you're making a fool of yourself, you're an idiot you're this, you're that, meanwhile I have strangers from all over over the world saying, you really changed my mind.
I mean, what you said to me caught me off guard. But, I mean, those types of messages are what kept me going.
Yes, sir. Even though there was no recognition, no money, nothing.
Mm-hmm. And that's why I never stopped.
And I made it pact. I said, I will never stop.
That's it. Because to save one life is as if you saved the whole world.
I mean, come. Amen to that.
Amen to that, man. So I love that.
You got to take risk. You got to have faith.
You got to keep going. And I'm going to go back to something you talked about at the beginning.
Everybody, regardless of what you do, you've got to develop sales skills, right? Like someone asked me the other day, Mick, what's the greatest sale you've ever made? And I started laughing. And they expected me to talk about a financial sale.
I said, you know what? My kids are adults now. My kids are 27, 24, 23.
The greatest sale that I make on a monthly basis is having them keep believing in me as their father. That is the greatest sale that I make because it's kids.
Right. I can tell my kids anything when they're 9, 10 years old.
But when they can make their own decisions and have their own thoughts and honestly don't ever have to talk to you again, the fact that they do, that's the best I've ever made is being a great dad. I got three myself too, man.
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Terms apply. And it's difficult, you know, because, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, in most households, it's the, Daddy, I love you. Then the hormones start kicking in.
Yeah. Some bodily changes start happening.
Yeah. Then it's the, I hate you, Dad.
Yeah. We've all been there.
And then it's the, life is so busy. And then it's the, damn, what my and damn what I put him through.
You have the self-realization. And that I think only happens once you become a parent.
I became very humble and mortal. I say I became mortal the day I became a father.
There it is. I was never scared of anything.
I was known as a nightlife guru, always out to four or five. I was always an amazing networker.
Yeah. And I think that's another thing that a lot of young people drop the ball on.
Even though they have tools that we didn't have and maybe it's done more online now, but knowing how to store those resources, man. You meet these people, you get a business call.
Okay, maybe you're nowhere near that industry. Yeah.
This is a little nugget for your audience. This is so important.
Okay, when it comes to networking. You've seen me.
You see, I know everybody.

Absolutely.

It's so important

because you don't realize that,

yeah, you're 18, you're 19,

you're 20, you're in college.

You haven't figured out your life yet.

Some people don't figure it out

until their 40s, man.

I mean, it is what it is.

Yeah.

When you meet these people, man,

store the information

because you don't know.

You might need it one day.

Yep.

So how would I do it? Here's a little shortcut when you meet someone take the contacts write in the notes i met mick hunt met him on 34th street we're at the pen bar we had a drink he told me he has three kids they're 26 27 28 um he has a podcast he likes to talk about business his right as much of that transaction you can remember. Now,

10 years from now,

someone goes,

man,

you don't need podcasts?

I go,

let me check my phone.

You go on your database,

you hit podcasts,

Mick Hunt pops up.

Now,

you might not have spoken to me.

You only met me once.

Right.

You only met me once.

Yeah.

But I have the notes.

Mick,

I don't know if you remember me.

My name's Beck.

We hung out in New York.

How's your son Jimmy doing?

Jimmy,

damn,

this guy must know me. If this guy, now now nick's gonna feel stupid that he doesn't remember that he met me because i'm naming his wife his kid he likes you still like to drink them tequilas with the tea doors yeah how does he remember all this so now i have proof that we've met before we've connected you're gonna give me the benefit of the doubt absolutely storing this information don't be scared to talk to people people are like jigsaw pieces man you meet the right one it changes everything that's you know and you meet the wrong one changes everything so be careful with what you do but but meet people man talk to people you got nothing to lose most people are not going to bite your head off right you know stop being scared you know i love meeting people that i i've loved meeting people, opening up relationships.
Just getting to, like, I've generally just always enjoyed meeting people. Okay, maybe I'm extroverted, but, you know, I don't know.
Listen, I think maybe the older you get to, you know, a lot of people let you down and people just get bitter. But I think my greatest achievement is everything I've been through.
And I've had more knives around me, Mick, than a kitchen counter. Yes, sir.
I swear to God, Mick. And always by people I help the most.
Yep. Which is, you can't be betrayed by people you don't know.
You can't be betrayed by people you do know. That's right.
That you cared about, right? That's why it's called betrayal. The thing I'm the most proud of, Mick, is that after all of that, I'm not bitter.
I kept that part of me. The part part that still likes to help people and meet people because a lot of times there's a lot of people that become hermits after that they've been betrayed so many times you can't blame them i don't blame you you tired of like okay they're gonna be like everyone else same thing in dating i've tried with 20 different women 20 different men i'm done dating because there's no one good for me it's that mentality that limits so many people not only in their relationships but in business.
I knocked on 20 doors but try the 21st door man. That's it.
That 22nd door the law of averages will kick in eventually. It always does.
At some point. It might be the last 10 door knocks out of 100.
Right. But people don't have the stamina the drive or the belief and that's the world that we live in.
The Easter Bunny generation. That's it.
Words of wisdom. My guy, Beck Lover, the guy that inspired me to truly just be me on the podcast, Mike Beck.
Brother, I love you more than you know, man. Well, Mick, you know, I'm happy to have met you, man.
Let's do dinner sometime. And where are you living at? I'm in South Carolina.
But I'm up here a lot. I'm in the city quite a bit you're looking for you south of the border nah you know i'm talking about i know those signs were everywhere from beginning dc when we dropped it my dad was the kind of make his drive to to to to orlanta everywhere yeah new york to orlando yeah i must say i enjoyed traveling through south carolina those signs were very entertaining pedro was waiting for you.
It's south of the border. I'm like, that.
This Pedro guy is bigger than Mickey, man. In my mind as a kid, I'm seeing all the movies.
But that's what you think. You're on the road for Disney World and you're like, south of the border.
I made us spend one night there, man. That was not a fun night.
Yeah. And he's not talking about Mexico, by the way.
It's like a tourist trap. Literally, once you get past the North Carolina line into South Carolina, there's a spot called south of the border.
It's kind of fun. It's like a tourist trap.
Like literally, once you get past the North Carolina line into South Carolina,

there's a spot called South of the Border.

It's kind of fun.

It's a fun little place.

Yeah.

They sell souvenirs

and gifts and fireworks

and it's basically like,

it's like a tourist trap, brother.

No, it is.

It's the greatest one ever.

Yeah, it's not like it.

It is.

It's not the greatest one ever.

South Carolinians never go there.

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That was really the truth, man? Yeah. Damn.
I wouldn't lie. That's crazy.
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