Jesse Thompson | The Symphony of Life: Harmony and Heritage - Mick Unplugged [EP 25]

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In this episode, Mick Hunt dives into Jesse Thompson's melodic life, exploring his early exposure to music through a talented family and the vibrant local scene of Dayton. Jesse shares insights on how his upbringing and environment nurtured his passion for music, leading him to become a multi-talented musician recognized for his versatility and depth.
Jesse Thompson's Background: From a young age in Dayton, Ohio, Jesse was immersed in a rich musical heritage, learning from family members deeply rooted in gospel, jazz, and R&B.
Defining Moments: Jesse recounts pivotal experiences like playing his father's jazz drum set at age five and the familial teachings that guided his early musical education.
Discussion Topics:

Jesse's early experiences with music, as part of a family of musicians, influenced his diverse skill set across multiple instruments.

The profound impact of local funk legends and community music scenes shaped his musical style and career.

His journey of mastering over 13 different instruments by age 12 and the discipline involved in his music education.

Key Quotes:

"My gift comes from God, and my parents were my first teachers in the music world."

"Being around the vibe of Dayton's music scene was like being in our version of Hollywood."

Next Steps:

Discover: Explore Jesse Thompson's music and delve into his diverse discography.

Reflect: Consider how your environment and upbringing influence your passions and pursuits.

Engage: Share your thoughts on the episode and how music shapes your life using #MickUnplugged.

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Are you ready to change your habits, sculpt your destiny, and light up your path to greatness?

Welcome to the epicenter of transformation.

This is Mick Unplugged.

We'll help you identify your because

so you can create a routine that's not just productive but powerful.

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Now, here's Mick.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another inspiring episode of Mick Unplugged.

And today, we have a true musical genius joining us.

He's a multi-talented composer, pianist, and keyboardist hailing from the land of funk, Dayton, Ohio.

With a rich family heritage in music, he's been inspired by legends like the Ohio players, Lake Soph, and Zap.

With a catalog so deep and a sound that is so inspiring I personally call him the king of feel-good music ladies and gentlemen please help me welcome mr jesse jt jazz thompson to mick unplug jt how you doing brother brother i'm doing so well thanks so much i appreciate it how are you doing i'm doing great now that i'm here with you man oh man i'm honored brother thanks for having me on your show this really means a lot It means a lot to me, too.

And I want to go in and talk about your musical journey, man.

Like you have so much depth.

And I'd love for you to just kind of share some more about your early days, you know, growing up in date and how growing up in a family of musicians influenced your career.

Oh, man.

Yeah.

Well, first of all, I'm very grateful to God because, you know, my gift comes from Him.

And my mother was a church organist and pianist, and my dad was a professional jazz drummer.

So it kind of started there.

I was five years old, and I went into our basement.

And there's this big room, like, well, to me, it was big because I was little, you know.

And I opened the door and I see these little shiny objects back there.

And I just started, you know, pulling them out one by one.

And my parents looked at each other.

And next thing I know, it was a drum set.

It was my dad's old jazz drum set.

And so at that moment, I just took an interest in playing drums.

And he started teaching me and give me some lessons.

And then after that, while doing that, rather, I also was interested in watching my mom play in an organ and everything.

And I started tinkering around on the keys.

At that moment, she took me to a place back home called BHA Music, which was a place that sold pianos and organs.

And that's where we got ours from.

Took lessons there on a Saturday.

And by me being a little kid, I didn't want to miss my cartoons.

So my mom was like, look, I'm not going to force you.

When you're ready, you're ready.

So at that moment, I went back home, stayed home, skipped the lessons, but I was still being taught by her.

And then also my oldest brother, Marvin, who played with Slave and Parliament.

And he also did stuff with Troutman and those guys.

So, you know, my house was full of gospel, jazz, and R RB and some blues.

So at that moment, I'm, you know, being taught by family, and then I'm following my brother.

He takes me with him to his studio.

So I'm learning at a very early age how to conduct, how to listen, how to pay attention.

It was just such a blessing and a treat.

So, you know, it just went from one thing, went from another.

And I started playing snare drum in school as well.

Then I played the cello.

I was so tiny that the cello was bigger than me.

So

I played as a cello and also as an upright.

And my mom and dad say, listen, we like you playing that big instrument, but we're afraid you're going to get jumped and we're going to have to pay for it.

So you got to pick another instrument.

So I wound up picking up the trumpet.

And so I learned how to play all brass instruments.

So in every era, every year in my school life, I was in different bands and playing different instruments.

So everything from jazz, concert band.

So music was just all throughout the household, as well as playing drums in church.

I did that too.

So it was just amazing.

So by the time I got to the age of 12, I had already, I was playing 13 instruments, 10 different instruments at the time.

I can't even fathom that.

So that's why I call you the genius, right?

Because...

Oh, man.

Or maybe I should call you the prodigy because that's not something that anyone can do, right?

Like 13 instruments?

At the age of 12, yes, yes.

That's insane.

So what instrument can Jesse not play?

Well, believe it or not, I'm not a clarinet or saxophone player yet.

I still want to learn, though.

So I pretty much stuck with all of the string and brass instruments and keyboards and percussions as well, different types of percussions, including xylophone.

So that's the one thing I would like to learn how to play is

an actual saxophone itself.

I like the sax.

I'm going to challenge you because I know how you are.

Yeah, right, exactly.

Prove you can do it, Jason.

Prove you can do it.

But hey, man, hey, bro, Mick, my next project, I'm featuring myself on sax.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So,

you know, Dayton, Ohio.

Yeah.

The land of funk, right?

Like, I love Motown, but when I was born, Motown had already moved out west, right?

So, you know, it wasn't what it was.

But when I was born, bro, like, I remember Saturday mornings, because, you know, that's when we had, before we could watch cartoons, that was also chore morning, right?

Exactly.

Oh, yeah.

Man,

you know, the Ohio players.

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Yes.

Lakeside.

Fantastic voyage.

Always going on.

The Troutman.

I'm going to call them the Troutman family, right?

Because, you know, they were deep and big and Dayton.

Those were some of your influences and inspiration.

So, how did they shape your music style and your creativity?

You know, that's a good question.

So, growing up in Dayton, we would see those guys all the time.

We would see the Roger Troutman, the Steve Aronson, the guys from Slave.

Of course, my brother being a member of the Slave group, we would see, you know, Suge and all those people, you know, in the Triangle Park at festivals and at the store.

Shirley Murdoch, ran to Shirley Murdoch so many times in our old Metro, Metro grocery store.

It's just like, it's like, hey, how you doing, Miss Murdoch?

How you doing, baby?

Okay, you know, this is one of those things, right?

And it was like every day for us.

And we were very fortunate to be in that city, in that era, during that time.

Man, it was, it was like we were in our own version of Hollywood without, but there was no conceitedness or anything that would downplay you as a human, right?

I mean, they treated all their fans as family.

It was all, hey, everything is one-on-one.

Everything was only up and up, as they say.

Roger would see Roger and those guys out and even at their studio that they had there off of Cataupa, that area.

It was all the same.

It was amazing.

You know, you would see those guys and girls, and then you would go to rehearsals.

I would go to different rehearsals with my brother right before hitting the tour.

It was just like family, you know, there were never any kind of issues, anything like that.

So it was really great.

And then to be around that type of vibe really influenced me because I was already into music and then being able to participate as a as a community listener.

Like Roger would have new songs he was going to release.

He would make an announcement, hey, join me on WDAO, Dayton Radio.

You know, back then, I'm going to be on the program at this time.

I'm going to play two songs.

I want the community to vote and tell me which song I should release first as my single.

So everybody's listening, you know, and everybody's calling in.

So, you know, you get to be a part of something that's really great and makes you feel engaged and involved.

So all that stuff played a major role in my life for sure.

That's amazing.

So playing numerous instruments by 12,

right?

You also had joined

an army and jazz group, right?

Like next level.

Yeah, that was up here in Columbus, correct?

Uh-huh.

What were some of the most memorable moments you had and what lessons did you have by being a part of a group?

One important lesson you learned and by me being a big group fan as well as an Earth, Wind, and Fire fan, you learn how to stay in your place.

You learn how to not be in the way because you're a group.

You're not a solo artist.

It's like the spotlight is for everyone to share.

So there's a time when you step out, there's a time when you step back.

So I learned that.

I also learned that it's pretty much a family mode.

You know, you work together.

And then, you know, being in a group like that,

it also provided other opportunities like to open up for like boys and men and, you know, Wayman Tisdale and Mindy Aber and Jeff Gullup, all those people, you know, back in the day.

And when they see you as a group of guys or girls, but guys for us playing,

it was pretty amazing.

And to be able to talk to them and to get some ideas and wisdom from them played a major role.

I remember when I spoke to, I was talking to Bob James, an idol of mine, and we opened up for foreplay.

And just being able to talk to them and ask them questions as a group member to get their perspective was very enlightening.

It was really, really cool.

So, yeah, but I mean, you know, playing with a group really helps.

It's almost like being in an army.

You know, everyone's one accord.

You know, remember the movie Drumline?

One band, one sound?

One band, one sound.

That's the way it should be.

That's the way it should be.

And when you watch different groups like, you know, The Slaves and the Earthwind and Fires and Ohio players, et cetera, you see that vibe and you get that vibe.

Everyone is just so tight-knit and it really helps the levels to be truly level, you know, across the board in that band.

No, I love it.

And here's what I like about what you just said, because that same philosophy translates into team sports.

It translates into the workforce, right?

Like everyone has a role.

Everyone has a lane.

It works best when everyone understands and respects that.

There's going to be moments where it's your time to shine.

Right.

But that doesn't mean that you're disappointed when it's not, right?

Like your contribution helps someone else shine.

That's it.

Exactly.

And, you know, it's like painting a picture.

You know, each part of that canvas holds its own weight for whatever you're painting.

So it's like you're not leaving any area or real estate undone.

It all shares that same concept and sending out a message on what you're painting, what you're trying to say or what you are saying.

So when you're in a group, it's the similar thing.

It's like you said, you know, we all shine together.

We're not being selfish.

We're on one accord, you know, unity, you know, and that's where we become strong.

And it also helps too, because you never know when someone is going through something.

And a lot of times doing something together, like you just mentioned at work or on a team, you know, if someone's going through something, for them to know you, that they have your back or that you uplifting them means a whole lot, and vice versa.

It could be you or me that's having the issue, and you know, you're like, yo, JT, you good?

I got you, bro.

You know, you know, hey, thanks, Mick.

I appreciate that.

You know, and we go out and we do what we need to do and we accomplish those things.

So, yeah, it's, I think, it's very important.

And it's just, there's this strength in numbers.

You know, it's just, it really, really says a lot.

It really does.

All day.

All day.

Yeah.

So, you know, I've been telling you offline, huge fan, right?

And it was 2021.

So it was, you know, mid-pandemic.

I don't know when the pandemic really ended or started or whatever.

My words, mid-pandemic, right?

Right.

And I heard for the first time, weekend group.

Yeah.

And when I tell you, bro,

the first time I heard it, I just stepped back and was like, who is this?

It's one of those where, you know, a song is great when you're listening to the instrumentals and you can put your own words into it.

Like no matter what you're feeling that day, I can play the song a hundred different times and go a hundred different words because you put me in that feel-good moment.

Like talk to me and talk to the audience through what it was like coming up with the weekend groove and what did the pandemic do for you?

Like what did that, what was that change of pace like for you?

Yeah.

Wow.

First, man, I'm very humbled and honored.

Thanks so much.

To hear you say that really means a lot to me.

So thank you.

You know, during the pandemic, everything came to a halt, you know, and to be told that you can't go outside and go to the store or drive anywhere.

And we're used to going where we want to go was just, it was kind of insane to me.

And then I realized how much it was impacting my fellow musicians and fellow artists.

Right.

And then, so it's just like, man.

So it was just placed in my heart.

to create something that was uplifting, that was inspiring.

And that really, really motivated me.

So at that moment, I was down here in a J Spot and started creating a tune.

We can groove.

And

everything just started coming together just piece by piece.

You know, it's just like, oh man, okay, I hear this, hear that.

So I'm laying it down.

And it was just a wonderful opportunity because I said, I definitely want to put something out that will put a happy vibe in people's heart, that will allow them to pat their feet, bob their head, and even take them away from the pandemic situation, even if it's just for a moment, to let them be able to appreciate life and to see and recognize, hey, better days are ahead, you know, brighter days are ahead.

So I was able to put that together.

And then when I did it, I said, you know, it would be awesome if I had flute on this.

And I thought about my sister out there, Renee.

And I hit her up and I said, hey, I got a tune I would love you to be on.

Do you mind taking a listen and check it out?

Let me know what you think.

So she said, yeah, sure.

You know, send it over to me.

And I sent it to her.

And she responded back immediately, like, Whoa, this is this is nice.

I love it.

This is, this is hot.

When do you need a pie?

And I told her, so, well, you know, it's just, you know, take your time.

I know you're busy and everything.

And it was a holiday weekend, I believe.

And she said, okay, well, give me probably until, you know, maybe two or three days, and I'll get something back to you.

She returned her parts back later on that evening, that night, and she smashed it.

I mean, she murdered it.

It was like, oh my God, this is phenomenal.

So I got everything back.

And at that moment, I contacted Kelly O'Donagu, who's actually a very good trumpet horn player overseas and in Poland.

And I talked to her and I played out the horn parts, sent her some notes.

She went ahead, took it over, and she knocked it out the park, sent it back to me.

And I mean, it was almost done pretty much in the weekend with everything that happened.

It was amazing.

And so at that moment, I was like, okay, I think I'm good.

I'm ready to go.

And this song, it means a lot.

It's my very first solo single, but it's also my very first song that I was able to create and generate from my heart to help inspire people.

And that was really what I wanted to do.

I just wanted to, you know, just help give people some good positive energy and be a blessing to them.

You know, just, it was just so much.

It was very, very hard, you know?

So that really inspired me.

The pandemic, actually, I'm thankful for because that's what motivated me to do solo artist stuff, you know, to become a solo artist.

That's what helped to catapult me into that area.

So after that moment, I've just been staying in there in that area and it's been a fun, fun journey so far.

Yeah.

And I love everything about it, man.

Everything that you wanted to accomplish on that one, you did.

I promise you.

Thank you.

That's when I became a huge fan of yours.

And it's been an incredible journey, like just seeing that with you.

Like, so I thank you for that.

Thank you.

Yeah.

I appreciate it.

Thanks so much.

That means a lot.

There you go.

So you're, you're continuing to evolve and continuing to do things.

So your latest track, Bate Night.

Yes.

It's creating a big buzz out there, brother.

So

what inspired this song?

And so for everybody that's listening or watching, I'm going to have links to both of the songs that I've referenced.

And you're going to be a huge JT fan as well, too.

So what inspired you for this song?

And what's some of the behind the scenes details of producing and coming up with that song?

So this song, Late Night, is a song that is co-written by a great artist by the name of Adam Holly.

He's also a billboard artist and composer.

Adam and I, I usually go on the road and play with him quite a bit, especially on the East Coast side.

You know, I was like, man, Adam, we got to do something together, man.

One day, he's like, yeah, man,

let's figure it out, you know.

But our schedules were so busy.

So finally, we got to the point, you know, we were able to link up.

I said, okay, let's do it.

He said, yeah, let's do it.

So Adam wrote the bass for the actual foundation for late night.

Okay.

So he said, check this out.

I took it and then I added my piece onto to it.

So we wrote it together.

I did the lead piece and some ox keys and we did changes and stuff like that together.

And then at that moment, I thought I was going to have Adam being featured on guitar.

You know, like, yeah, it's going to be cool.

He says, nah, man, I'm hearing some sax.

And I said, really?

Okay.

I trust you.

You know, like, I can hear a little bit of it too now.

So then that's when we called our friend Judah Seely.

It was a phenomenal saxophonist, man, and another great human being.

Judah got the song, laid it out, knocked it out.

I got that song back another one, like within just the same day, basically.

It was incredible.

That's when you know you got something.

Man,

yeah, I think you're right, man.

And at that moment, I sent it over to Adam.

I said, yo, Adam, check this out, man.

He's like, oh, man, this is killing.

He's like, okay, let me go ahead and do some things.

So he went ahead and mixed it and he sent it back to me.

We did some mixed comparisons and got that all together.

And, you know, it was called Late Night.

You know, obviously, you know, we write a lot of songs late at night.

So this is one tune we wanted.

It's entitled Late Night.

And just how everything came together and the flow was just really good.

And I wanted to create a melodic line that, along with that groove, that will allow people to, it's like, hey, you know what?

It's nighttime.

We can go out, have a good time.

We can go out and have dinner, go dancing, we can go kick it, whatever.

You know, forget about the workday.

It's late night and this is what we do, right?

And so

that's the vibe we wanted something that was funky and groove and at the same time was smooth so that was the whole purpose and intent of late night well so again another one mission accomplished so i'm gonna let the world in on a little secret so what i like to do when i'm listening to that song or not even listening to the song like every other evening my routine is this i'll go sit out on my balcony on my porch yeah have a little little bourbon okay and i'm listening to late night bro come on now what all right i'm very serious That's, man, that's dope.

I appreciate it.

That's great.

That's great, man.

That's what we want.

You know, just music brings people together and it says so many different things.

I mean, it truly is a universal language.

And the fact that you don't have to be, how can I say this?

You don't have to have your hearing in order to appreciate the vibe of music.

You could be deaf, you know, because when you think about it, and I observed this years ago, I used to work with some people who were deaf.

And when you think about it, they go by the vibrations and the frequency of

what they're feeling, right?

So musically, as an artist or musician, we should be able to express our feelings musically, right?

But those things on the back end, if you look at it from a scientific perspective, those are all built upon frequencies and you have a frequency response.

So depending on what you're playing, how you feeling, they also can feel that as well.

They feel the frequencies.

They go by the beats.

They go by the frequencies.

They go by those vibes.

And those things help them to interpret what you're saying and what you're expressing.

So music is, yes, it's a universal language.

I mean, but it's beyond universal language because, you know, we use it to do things such as,

like you said, for sporting events, right?

For movies, for parties, happy occasions, sad occasions.

We use it for all kinds of things.

Even back in the day, preparing for war, you know, they had, you know, music set up, you know, for that.

Commercials, store.

Music is everywhere.

So to me, it's so important and that's why i always make statements like in my social media hashtag keep the music alive because you know music truly truly helps people and you know i always say if you're watching a murder scene in a movie and you're playing circus music you don't take what's happening that seriously but if you take that murder scene and you apply that emotional vibe music that builds intensity now you're looking at it totally different like oh my god you know so it really has a major role in interpretation that's amazing brother so everything in your music career has been amazing, but I also know that it's never as easy as one likes it to be, right?

Like there's, there's things that we have to overcome.

There's things that we learn about ourselves.

And one of the things on the podcast, you talk about going deeper than your why and really being fueled by your because.

So if I were to ask JT Jazz, like, what's your because?

Like, what's that reason that keeps you doing what you do?

What would that be?

One of the many reasons would be because I'm blessed with the gift and I know what my calling is.

I know that I'm supposed to do this.

I know that I'm not supposed to let it sit on the shelf.

I know that I'm not supposed to be selfish with it.

I'm supposed to share what I have, what's inside me, to encourage and to motivate and to inspire and also to heal, you know, which is another part of what I knew I'm supposed to do with what I have, my gift.

So that's what keeps me going.

I don't ever want to take it for granted.

And it also helps me to remain to be humble because the moment you leave your humble presence is the moment when things go crazy the wrong way, you know, and I never, ever, ever want to do that because I know that, you know, I too am an instrument.

So I want to make sure that I'm in tune.

You know, I want to make sure that I'm doing what I need to do with this gift that I have.

So, you know, being able to talk to like yourself, people like you, and I hear the response and I hear, you know, how my music is affect you or impact you is, is, man, that's, it's, man, brother, it's, it's, it's beyond amazing to me.

I mean, I'm so appreciative and grateful because that's what I really want to do.

And, you know, and, you know, the best is yet to come, you know.

So it, that's, those kind of things really help me keep going and to know that there are some people who would love to have what I have, but unfortunately, they, they don't, or they, they're not able to do for whatever reason.

But also, there are some people that says, hey, I may not have what you have, but I love to hear what you do.

So please keep doing it.

Please keep going.

Those kind of things really help me to to keep just moving pressing forward and just keep going so yeah that's amazing you are amazing you are amazing thank you so

talking about keep going what are some of the future projects what what can we expect in the next the next round from from mr jt jazz himself yeah i'm actually working on some new music right now as we speak I've been working on some new stuff.

I'm also planning to get my Christmas EP done this year.

So I want to get that done.

And I really want to have another single out here soon.

I want to say soon, hopefully in another couple of months.

And then I want to get my project fully done.

But, you know, being an independent artist, you know, it takes time and money.

So I have to pace myself accordingly.

But yeah, we expect more music from me.

I have another single I'll be releasing.

Expect the Christmas EP to be done.

I just released my late night video on my YouTube channel.

So that was amazing.

It was a great accomplishment.

You know, I have more to come.

I still want to do a video.

And I talked to Althea about it.

I still got to do a video of weekend groove because of my first single so you know we're we're going to make that happen somehow the people want that yeah the people want it so i'm going to call her and say listen althea i know you're busy but the people are wanting the video for weekend groove so let's make it happen you know absolutely yeah yeah yeah

we can we can announce it and launch it live here too i'll do that hey that'd be great that'd be great seriously that's awesome yeah i mean i think uh it'll be a lot of fun too so yeah that's that's what's in the works Definitely in the works.

Good stuff.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

So where can people follow you and find you?

And I'm going to put all these descriptions in the links as well.

Yeah, absolutely.

So they can go to my website, which is jtjazz.com.

You can also follow me on Instagram.

JT Jazz is my handle.

Facebook is JT Jazz as well.

And what else we have?

Oh, Spotify, Jesse Thompson.

Apple Music is Jesse Thompson.

So, and then I also have links on my webpage that the fans and listeners can go to to follow those different things as well but yeah i'm on all the different on all digital platforms so if you have amazon music uh youtube music whatever i iTunes apple music teezer napster i'm out there i'm out there thankfully so feel free to do that and then also if you want an autograph cd just go to my website and we'll go ahead and get that to you and then also right now i'm also sending out a special gift when people buy my um autograph cd of my latest single late night so i got a little special gift i add with them as well so feel free to go out there and do that.

And I really, you know, I appreciate everything.

So yeah, that's how you can follow me.

So I challenged JT earlier to learn sex.

I'm challenging all of the Mick Unplugged followers and listeners.

Yeah.

Go get the special gift.

Yes.

Go get the autographed CD for the special gift.

Yeah, yeah.

We have t-shirts and we got some other stuff out there that works.

And it's a lot of stuff out there.

Just we, you know, do whatever I can to not only get the brand out, but to reach the people and, you know, hopefully they enjoy it.

We have fun.

There we go.

Yeah.

We're gonna do that.

JT, dude, I appreciate you spending some time with me today.

Thank you for breaking down a lot of things for the listeners and just giving us insight into your mastery of who you are.

So definitely thank you for taking some time.

Man, thank you, Mick, for having me on your show, man.

I mean, it means a lot to me.

This is a great show, and I would love to come back.

So if you want to have me back, just let me know.

Oh, man, we're making that happen.

There's no ifs.

We're doing that.

Definitely, definitely, man.

I really appreciate this.

And shout out to Tom Estee for doing his work.

He's an amazing PR guy.

His agency is amazing.

I just really appreciate him.

And we got Sabrina Taylor as well.

So thank you.

And again, thank you as well, Mick, and your staff, your crew.

You guys are amazing.

And I look forward to coming back.

So, and thanks to all the fans out there.

The best is yet to come.

We got some stuff going on.

And go check out my website where I'll be live.

I'm actually will be a kickoff starting tomorrow with Adam Holly and Julian Vaughan in Cincinnati, Ohio at the Lutlow Garage.

So we're going to be there and we're going to Pittsburgh and I'll be in Louisville as well with Lynn Roundtree.

So yeah, just check me out and I look forward to seeing you there.

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