#881 - Christmas Special - Life Hacks, Biggest Lessons & Best Resolutions

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. It is a Christmas special.
For those of you who have only joined the show over the last year, or the last few years, you might not recognize this room.

Speaker 1 And it is my old living room in Newcastle upon Tyne, where we first started the show.

Speaker 1 Joined by Johnny Nusseff from Propane Fitness and George Mack, stopping off en route from Glasgow to Manchester, of course.

Speaker 1 This is a life hacks, lessons from 2024. and best New Year's resolutions episode.

Speaker 1 So if you haven't seen these, we'll go around in a circle coming up with whatever we've discovered over the last year, and then the rest of us will rip it apart or say that it's good, and maybe there'll be some ideas for you for what you can implement going into the new year.

Speaker 1 Also, if you haven't done a New Year's review, the exact template that I use and have crafted very delicately over the last decade or so is available right now for free at chriswillex.com slash review.

Speaker 1 That's tradition. Something else which is tradition is you getting hot potato and going first so

Speaker 1 a festive potato for you. Festive potatoes.
Jonathan Watson, what have you got for us? Is it life hacks first? It is. So, my life hack is

Speaker 1 a ninja creamy.

Speaker 1 So happy you said that. Really? I've got one.
I thought you have you. I've got one.
You so've been thinking about getting one. I think it hasn't got one yet.

Speaker 1 What's a ninja creamy? Do you know what one is? No.

Speaker 1 Educate me. It's

Speaker 1 it basically, what I use it for is making ice cream from a protein drink.

Speaker 1 It's brilliant. So like skimmed milk, what do you, what do you use it for? The same thing or berries? I imagine you have berries in yours.

Speaker 1 Actually, no. Mine has been low sugar, high protein ice cream made with the exact protein powder that I want.
Right. So pretty much the same thing that you're doing.
Yeah. Do you put topping in it?

Speaker 1 So I've encountered a problem with that, which is when you have to make up the mixture and then put it in the freezer for it to freeze.

Speaker 1 The issue is the viscosity of the liquid when you put it in the freezer versus the viscosity of the liquid when it becomes ice cream is different.

Speaker 1 So if you put chocolate chips in, they all just sink to the bottom and create a layer. What's your solution? Well, you put them on after you've...
So you creamy it

Speaker 1 and then you

Speaker 1 what? Sorry, I'm just writing instructions. You what?

Speaker 1 I don't see a pen, George. It doesn't look like you're making notes.
It looks like you're trying to make fun of me, George. Go on.
You

Speaker 1 creamy.

Speaker 1 Creamiest. And then once it's creamy, there's a mix-in button.
Oh,

Speaker 1 have you not encountered that?

Speaker 1 You've seen it.

Speaker 1 If I'm being completely honest, it's not me that uses it. Oh, God.

Speaker 2 What a bougie. So this is to distribute the chocolate chips throughout the height of the ice cream rather than all at the bottom like a screwball or all at the top like a.

Speaker 1 Like a topping. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it is a topping. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you make it first, and then you, once it's turned into ice cream, you add the shit that you want. A little bit of topping, and then press mix in, or I think it's called mix in, or mix again.
Okay.

Speaker 1 What is the best recipes that you've come up with?

Speaker 1 I think white chocolate and raspberry. Way

Speaker 1 from

Speaker 1 perform.

Speaker 1 It's like P.

Speaker 1 I was just focusing on what's going on.

Speaker 1 It's like P and then the number four RM or something like that.

Speaker 1 How many scoops? Two. Always two.
With skimmed milk. How much? 350 mil.

Speaker 1 400 mil is what you want to use because that takes you up to the limit, the limit line. It's just not quite, the ratio is not quite right.
Sometimes a banana improves the texture. Interesting.

Speaker 1 Have you been able to get the sort of gelatinous stickiness that you want? That's something that I've struggled with. Do you like it to be more sticky or lasting? A little sticky.

Speaker 1 A little more sticky. I think that's about how long it's frozen for.

Speaker 2 Xanthan gum.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get involved with that stuff. I feel like that's a whole other variable to manage.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's how much xanthan gum.
Well, you'd just experiment, wouldn't you? But think how long it's going to take together, right? That's true. Because you've got something that works sort of 80%.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Okay.
So white chocolate performance. White chocolate and raspberry weigh.
Yep. With raspberries and white chocolate chips as the topping mixed in.
So good. It's like 40 grams of protein.

Speaker 1 Well, a little bit more if you include the milk

Speaker 1 and like 400 calories. It's brilliant.
And you said one of those off in one go. Yeah.
Wow. Dessert, lunch.
You can tell you're not running anything.

Speaker 1 Usually, like last meal of the day. That's pretty dialed.
So good. That's very good.
I'm a big ninja. I mean, ninja are just between the air fryers, all of the different air fryers they've got.

Speaker 1 They've got this air fryer crispy thing now, which is a glass tray at the bottom.

Speaker 1 So you can see how it sort of crisps, and you can make lasagnas, you know, where you have that sort of the filtering on the top.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to air fryer.

Speaker 1 You have an air fryer, I imagine. That seems like.
Yeah, I should get one, should I? Do you have one, George?

Speaker 1 Yes, but I never used it.

Speaker 2 You really value culinary appliances that allow you to eat low-calorie foods and make them nice. So I think an air fryer would be high-value.

Speaker 1 Do you know what I really value more than

Speaker 1 something that allows me to see whatever it produces as one serving?

Speaker 1 Ideally in a container. So what I think what I like about

Speaker 1 the screen. I can't have more or less than it.
I just eat the whole thing. And I don't have to worry about like, oh, how many scoops of this should I have? Do you know what you're the whole thing?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 That's Chris's way of life. Eat the whole thing.
Eat the whole thing.

Speaker 1 So it's a sorry.

Speaker 1 I think an air fryer for you, I mean, this isn't even one of mine, but I think an air fryer for you would be nothing short of life-changing. What would I use it for? Do you ever eat steak at home?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 but not like regularly, though. But would you eat? I have an ninja creamy every day.
Okay. Would you eat steak at home if you could have from frozen frozen amazing steak in 20 minutes?

Speaker 1 Is that your best suggestion? A steak? It's fucking unbelievable for steak. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This is a Peterson hack. Okay.
As a woman who eats a lot of steak, she knows how to cook a steak. If that's all you're eating.
Yeah, which I am. So it's important.

Speaker 1 All right. I like that ninja creamy.
So you're not having creamies.

Speaker 1 That's a previous Chris thing. Correct.
Got it. But what have you got?

Speaker 2 This is Ernie, actually. Is it?

Speaker 1 Fuck. I misgendered him.
Thank you, george

Speaker 2 so i've i've chosen this suit to introduce the most kind of serious point of the podcast but i've been doing a lot of walking and journaling and reflecting and i've actually been tuning an ai model using a few kind of different database structures to identify the optimal categorization method for life hacks and you're doing it again what i've come down to is physical and digital

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 you said this the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 Actually, last year it was a team of operational analysts.

Speaker 1 And yeah, but I think we're getting closer to

Speaker 1 what a relief. I think we're on something.
Increase the compute and still hit the same wall.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 the physical life hack is to use things that annoy you, like mild irritations throughout the day, as gratitude triggers. So

Speaker 2 you wake up in the morning, 7 a.m., you hear a siren going past, you're like, oh, bloody hell, like, I should want five minutes more sleep.

Speaker 2 And that's a gratitude trigger for that could have been me in the ambulance.

Speaker 2 Or, like,

Speaker 2 you could be even the driver of the ambulance, still pretty rubbish, having to drive an ambulance at seven in the morning. Or you could be in the back of the ambulance.

Speaker 2 It's like, okay, there's a little switch. You encounter someone who's a bit of a dick to you at the checkout in a shop or whatever, and you go,

Speaker 2 they're being a dick because they're miserable at their job. They're having a bad time.
I can go home and eat my sushi and pot of mango or whatever. They have to be on shift.

Speaker 2 So just having that little flip has been really valuable.

Speaker 1 I've been trying to think of something that you couldn't do that with, but I'm struggling.

Speaker 2 I'm sure there's loads.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But it's, I guess it's how to flexible to you want to be.

Speaker 1 What are you trying to have empathy for the other person or are you trying to sort of do inversion on yourself? What are you prioritizing?

Speaker 2 Both are good effects of that, aren't they? I think it's like a nice side effect to have just be more happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's pretty pro-social.

Speaker 1 I like that. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is one from George's birthday this year in Miami,

Speaker 1 which Dickie Bush decided to do. And it's Uber Black XL.

Speaker 1 So Uber Black XL.

Speaker 1 I don't know whether, I don't know how available it is in the UK, but especially in America and probably in the bigger cities in the UK, you can order, you know, a seven-person escalade with a driver that's always dressed quite nice and formally.

Speaker 1 And it's basically you having a private driver, but you just order it on Uber. And it's about maybe two to three times the cost of a normal Uber.

Speaker 1 So it's, you know, special occasions only for the most part. But the way that you feel when you get into it, when you get out of it is lovely.

Speaker 1 And the experience is easily three times nicer than being in the back of someone's Kia forte.

Speaker 1 Especially in America. This is a big America problem because it's less expensive.

Speaker 1 it's less more expensive in america and the depths that your normal uber x can descend to in america as you learned firsthand this year

Speaker 1 it's like the back of some nissan altima the 30 year old that you're sticking to the seat it can go really low so uh if you've had a tough day and you want to treat yourself

Speaker 1 a journey home in a blue uber black xl is nice if you're out on a date and you sort of want to make something feel a little bit nicer

Speaker 2 big fan why do you think the standard of cars in america is generally higher is it more of a status level it's lower is it that the is it bimodal because i've like you're saying that the

Speaker 1 some ubers go really low correct in america the uk doesn't seem i think americans generally have

Speaker 1 lower standards for what they keep their cars to if anybody's got a small dink in the uk it's almost immediately taken

Speaker 1 about it as well i know it's terrible but you take it to the like shop or whatever and you get it fixed most people would uh indeed i need to get my dink fixed actually yeah i'll come back with an xl make it bigger

Speaker 1 black xl uh i think i think it's a i mean you you've you've been a a big proponent of that as well like using uber black xl

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 1 i think um

Speaker 1 This is a highbrow podcast. In Dubai, for example, all the Ubers are essentially Lexuses.
They're all beautiful.

Speaker 1 It's only when I was in the UK or the US experiencing uber do you realize sometimes you could be going 70 miles an hour and it's more dangerous to be out the car than in the car right yeah because in Dubai I feel like I was always like a Mercedes Vito person in a suit so but is that that's just a Dubai thing yeah right yeah I've had some shockers whenever in one I had in Munich where he just went rogue went was trying to go to the petrol station was going like different stop-offs was like was texting.

Speaker 1 And then when I had, I said, Hey, can you not text on your phone? He just threw his phone against the window and then just started speeding faster and faster. Wow.
And I thought

Speaker 1 I paid the 20%. So was it you where someone was trading? What was it? He was trying to show you a video.
Yeah, so we were in one Uber and we're on a huge highway and I'm at the back.

Speaker 1 And I just go, what's he doing on his phone? Because sometimes he may be doing a WhatsApp or anything like that.

Speaker 1 And I look and he was, there was like trading charts on and he was shorting the Japanese yen. Nice.
Like mid

Speaker 1 mid-drive. And I said,

Speaker 1 what are you doing? So, yeah, you may face them shorting the Japanese yen. I had an Uber driver in Croatia who had like mini seizures while driving.

Speaker 1 And I couldn't work out whether it was like just something that happened to him all the time or whether it was serious. But he was like having a seizure and like pressing the accelerator.

Speaker 1 as he was seeing.

Speaker 1 So we were like, we were coming up towards traffic and the car would like lunge and then break, but he just didn't acknowledge it at all.

Speaker 1 He's the opposite of the guy that we had in Iceland. So driving back the final, the final coach out of the blue lagoon in Iceland, because the alternative was to stay there for £9,500 for the night.

Speaker 1 And some hurricane-level winds were coming in. And we managed to make it onto this bus.
And we're at the back of the bus.

Speaker 1 It's tilting up onto what feels like just its side wheels because of the strength of the breeze coming along.

Speaker 1 Johnny's solution, which was fucking genius actually at the time, was: I'm going to go up to the front and look at the bus driver. And if he's not concerned, we shouldn't be concerned.

Speaker 1 He went.

Speaker 2 Hands at the bottom of the wheel.

Speaker 1 Because for him, it's just

Speaker 1 him, it's just Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 1 Another day, Graph, isn't it?

Speaker 2 It was the worst storm that Iceland had seen in several years as well. I think

Speaker 2 that guy is a source of inspiration to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's Jocko as Jocko is a bus driver. All right.
You're up. I'm coming in hard.

Speaker 1 So, like Lily Phillips.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 Kale algorithm. So this is a custom-built life hack, which I can put in the comments section.

Speaker 1 But me and Chris have had these debates for years that whether the platforms will ever change so you have control over your own algorithm. And I've been convinced it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 But I kind of sat there waiting for years for it to happen. And particularly my, I don't know where your weakness is, where your Achilles heel is in terms of digital platforms.
Mine is YouTube by far.

Speaker 1 And the most frustrating thing is YouTube is the library of Alexandra. You have all the world's knowledge.

Speaker 1 And if like Marcus Aurelius, Julius Caesar would trade everything to have access, not only to the best library, but then it turned into this magical video format where you can watch anything,

Speaker 1 teach yourself anything. And every day I would turn up to that library and I'd get distracted by fights and fentanyl in the car park, right?

Speaker 1 That was my YouTube experience. Oh, Logan Paul's done what? Coffeezilla's going to expose him for what shitcoin? Click, click.

Speaker 1 And I remember once

Speaker 1 I went on the, and this is a, if you want to stare into the abyss and have the abyss stare back into you, go youtube.com and press history and just scroll through some of the things that you've watched.

Speaker 1 And I went through quickly, like the last maybe 100 videos I've watched, and about 80% of them were regrettable in hindsight. So I had the best library of all time, and I was watching absolute shite.

Speaker 1 So what was interesting, though, I looked at the videos I did enjoy and the videos that I didn't enjoy in hindsight, and you could have built this whole complex algorithm, but there was one simple thing that the videos I did enjoy and didn't enjoy had between them.

Speaker 1 And it was over 30 minutes long.

Speaker 1 Any video that seemed to be over 30 minutes long, for the most part, I enjoyed in hindsight. And any video under 30 minutes long, I, for the most part, didn't enjoy.

Speaker 1 And I think there's something about the monkey brain that if you see a 15-minute expose on Logan Paul's new NFT debacle, it's like, oh, I can do that. But if it's a two and a half hour one,

Speaker 1 it's a bit harder. A bit more discerning.
It's a bit harder to justify.

Speaker 2 So is the conclusion to watch like 45 minute fentanyl in the car car?

Speaker 1 I waste more time. So the dashboard compilations.

Speaker 1 I've tried that. But the problem is, you go on youtube.com, thumbnail,

Speaker 1 title, you just don't have the willpower.

Speaker 1 Imagine if you had a social media feed, right? And they just showed you porn.

Speaker 1 like constantly you would end up watching a lot more porn as a result so it's not necessarily about discipline it's about preventing that coming on in the first place so what i built was i built a script that removes any videos under 30 minutes and it's now the full kl algorithm and i've gone from about 80 of my youtube time i regret to 80 of my youtube time is now running on what's the script running on so you want to download a chrome extension called tapper monkey oh and then i

Speaker 2 haven't been there before i've okay sorry go ahead i've got a couple of things i want to challenge you on about this but

Speaker 1 so you then i built the code using claude or chat gpt and i can share the code with people You put it in and it's permanently there now. So I no longer see any video under 30 minutes long.

Speaker 1 And you go on my feed now and it's just like Gletcher, stand-up comedian, cool documentary.

Speaker 1 Does that not mean though that you waste more time?

Speaker 1 Because the regret is about the video, but there's no regret about how long you spent watching the video.

Speaker 1 No, because well, there's a di I'm sure if you looked at your YouTube time, right, there's a difference in quality of things that you watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but usually I'm doing it instead of doing something else. So it's rare that I like find myself on my phone and then 30 minutes later, I'm like, oh, I'm so glad I watched that.

Speaker 1 But that might be because of this exact thing. But that assumes that the thing that I wasn't doing because of YouTube wasn't more important.
That's fair.

Speaker 1 There's always some kind of opportunity cost trade-off. But for me, so this is particularly on desktop.
And I would use YouTube end of the day as an alternative to TV.

Speaker 1 And that's where, versus, yeah, I agree. The kind of two-minute quick scroll is different.
That's the cocaine algorithm. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 There's a couple of ways you can get one step upstream of that. So there's a native thing on YouTube where you disable the,

Speaker 2 it might be watch history or one of these features where it means that when you log on to YouTube, it's just a blank screen. You just have the search bar.

Speaker 1 You turn that on.

Speaker 1 You turn on the propane one.

Speaker 2 And now I never procrastinate with YouTube. Like it just doesn't, because you have to then actively like, oh, what am I going to search for?

Speaker 2 Rather than having stuff like pushed onto you that you want to do that.

Speaker 1 The problem with that, though, is there's still value I find in the algorithm, certainly randomness and optionality.

Speaker 2 Okay, so you want the upside of the...

Speaker 1 Yes, I want the upside of the randomness and the optionality without local comports.

Speaker 2 In that case, you're trying to like fine-tune it.

Speaker 2 The other thing that you can do is, and I think we talked about this last year, using Read-Wise or Reader to establish that past George is the only one who can determine what current George is going to watch.

Speaker 2 So you're not allowed to consume any media unless it's on your... to read list or to watch list.

Speaker 2 And you've made that decision ahead of time so that you've made the decision when you're in a position of strength, not when you're like, oh, I'm not good, and it's 9 p.m.

Speaker 1 and I just want to just to find a potential problem with that. A lot of the time, you know, how in three months I'm going to have all of this white space on my calendar.
I'll agree to that.

Speaker 1 So, I really want to watch this thing. I'm sure that me tomorrow will want to watch it.
I'm not convinced that me yesterday is the best

Speaker 1 adjudicator of actually what I want to watch.

Speaker 2 So, the problem there is you end up with like a huge queue of stuff, and then you either.

Speaker 1 None of which you think is interesting, but because you now don't have to pay the price, you tomorrow has to consume it. You kick the can down before you watch the the relevant thing.

Speaker 2 You're looking in the fridge and you're like, I've got no food in the house at all. And actually, like, there's loads of food, but it's like lettuce and a bit of stuff you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you basically want an algorithm that's working nearer towards what your goals are and your long-term intents are. But it's not just purely like boring educational shit.

Speaker 1 Like, if there's like long-form comedy on there, like long-form comedy podcasts, I enjoy those way more. But there's something about the shortness of it.

Speaker 1 And I think having that pre-built in to remove it, my sister little life hack to this is also on email. If anybody has

Speaker 1 just set up a filter that if it has unsubscribe in the email, it goes to a separate inbox and then you scroll through that and you've reduced about 80% of your email clutter.

Speaker 1 So just putting those systems in place

Speaker 1 is useful. Gmail has that automatically, doesn't it? Gmail has that automatically with the promotions.
It does work

Speaker 1 through, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Johnny, you're up.

Speaker 1 This is linked to what you were just saying, Chris, about waking up at night.

Speaker 1 So there's two hacks in one. One is

Speaker 1 Audible on a... So iMask, one AirPod, 30-minute timer on Audible, audiobook.
It's Life Hack 1. Life Hack 2 is Audible Have, like, similar to a Netflix original, like an Audible original.

Speaker 1 Some of them are in Dolby Atmos. So it's like a film being read out, which is the most immersive thing I've ever heard on audible.
How immersive can it be with one AirPod in?

Speaker 1 Well, because the other one's pressed. Do you find that you turn, that you can just

Speaker 1 go full, like monk mode, and stay there? Because I'm a. Even if you roll over, though.

Speaker 1 Even if you roll over, it's just one AirPod. It's fine.
You're asleep. It doesn't matter.
The third life hack is Red Rising, the Red Rising series. But the immersive audio version.
Phenomenal.

Speaker 1 So good. So fucking fancy.
So that's a Fall Asleep. It's a series by Piers Brown.
Piers Brown. Really?

Speaker 1 Sci-fi series, the most addictive set of novels, but they've redone it as a movie in your mind and

Speaker 1 helped you get asleep. Dolby Atmos, full audio cast.
You know, they're not just saying what's going on back and forth to each other. They're fully acting it out.
The sound effects. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Beautifully soundscaped. It's awesome.
It's brilliant. I'm glad you like it.
So that to fall asleep. And if you wake up at night, like stick an AirPod in, I'm just

Speaker 1 because you just immediately, especially with Racing Thoughts, you're just immediately in another world.

Speaker 1 Manta eye masks make a bluetooth eye mask do they that is built for you to put to sleep on i i have a pair of headphones called like philips something they're like called sleep squooies or some shit they're just not very good but they're just not air pods are they yeah just one airpod in like because you can have you can have your head against a pillow with the side of the airpod in still doesn't wake you up

Speaker 1 i worry a little bit about like

Speaker 1 what it's doing to me. It's the sort of thing I think Yusuf would worry me about if I spoke to him about it too.
Oh, about its non-ionizing radiation.

Speaker 1 Like, is that AirPod talking to the AirPod that's over there and like cooking my brain in the process? And it was a Chernobyl ear. Yeah.
Yeah. But I mean, it's already going through.

Speaker 1 I mean, but I've only got one in. So is that okay?

Speaker 1 Who knows? Is it okay?

Speaker 2 I'm less concerned about Bluetooth earphone. As far as like EMF exposure, I think there are other things that are.

Speaker 1 Somebody shared an AirPod thing where it was like the communication between one AirPod and another.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I think like.

Speaker 1 But as medical advice, you're saying that's fine.

Speaker 2 The problem is, you've got to pick your battles, haven't you? It's like air quality, water quality, plastic exposures, you know,

Speaker 2 receipts. So for me, it's like, don't microwave plastic and don't be an idiot.

Speaker 1 Drive with your seatbelt on.

Speaker 2 Drive with your seatbelt on and get any dinks in your car sort of

Speaker 1 straight away. I like that.
Just to add another one on there from the Life Hacks four years ago, you can bulk buy your audible every year. Can you? So you don't need to pay monthly.

Speaker 1 You can pay yearly, annual, and you'll get all of your credits up front and and it's cheaper.

Speaker 1 That's brilliant. Was that a life hack?

Speaker 1 I should really pay more attention.

Speaker 1 We've just done a lot. I mean, I reckon we've done a thousand life hacks.
That's like top tier though. But

Speaker 1 you'll save probably 30 or 40% and you get all of your credits immediately.

Speaker 1 So you don't have to wait until next month if you've got a bunch of books or you're on holiday and you want to download four, you've got all of your credits for the next 12 months ready to go.

Speaker 1 Does Red Rising stop being good? Because there's like there's several books, right? I'm i'm on book

Speaker 1 six or seven now i can't remember which one it is and i'm still going everyone that i know same storyline yep same protagonist wow and everyone that i know that's got onto it is

Speaker 1 i think it i think it crossed a point of like when they're in the mind at the beginning i'm like this is a little bit a little bit dull as soon as you get out and then he's out he's like oh my god this is you can see how it's just this world huge uh book two and book three are just obsessive so uh red rising you should go download it even if you don't have graphic audio whatever it's called yeah like this

Speaker 1 there's a good rule of thumb, fiction before bed is amazing for me. It's kind of like my mindhold thing, right? Out of your own head, you're not thinking about your problems.
Good, very good.

Speaker 1 All right, Seth.

Speaker 2 There's the heuristic of what can I remove, you know, so delete, automate, then delegate. But there's also

Speaker 2 what am I already doing or using that I could be using better?

Speaker 2 So a few examples would be like, I'm already spending the time meditating in the mornings. Like, how can I make that time more effective?

Speaker 2 Or I'm already sleeping seven hours a night how can i improve the quality of that um i'm already you know you everyone's seen someone exercising in the gym like every time you go to the gym and they're there and they're just kind of like and they're like texting and swinging their arms around not really doing anything you're like they're taking all of the steps to get the result but

Speaker 2 wasting the actual critical time in there

Speaker 2 But this also applies to

Speaker 2 the decision of like, do I add something or do I just make make what I'm already doing better, get more use out of that, squeeze the lemon.

Speaker 2 So rather than adding in like a red light box and additional supplements and all this kind of stuff, it's like, well, what am I doing already?

Speaker 2 We often get clients that ask us like, oh, what's a good bit of software for this or what's a good software for this? And you're like, well, what are you already using?

Speaker 2 And you, it, like, 80% of the time. the software stack that they're already using does the thing that they're looking for but they're just looking for the next thing

Speaker 2 and so

Speaker 2 I'm always on about Tic Tick, but like the deeper I go with it, the more I'm like, oh, actually, like, there's no point looking for any other app to solve any of these other problems.

Speaker 2 Because if you just really like dive into TikTok, and now my, my referral, um,

Speaker 2 my referrals are so much that I've got an account until like 2067 or something.

Speaker 2 Um, so now I'm just like lifetime believer of TikTok.

Speaker 2 Um, So yeah, like, and as I've applied this in the last few weeks, whenever I've like found myself trying to solve a problem, I always take a pause and go, hang on, what in what we already have, what software we're already paying for, what tools we already have can do the thing.

Speaker 1 Have you got another example?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 this is a niche one, but we were looking for a way to convert Twitter threads or X threads into carousels. And I was looking at new bits of software.

Speaker 2 And actually, like, we already use Hype Fury for scheduling tweets and they have a built-in thing for this but i think it's just the natural habit of like wow what's the shiny new thing

Speaker 1 something new to solve this problem as opposed to looking where you're already at what's your what's your one of um you don't need new lessons you need to relearn your old ones yeah i mean most of the stuff that you already

Speaker 2 most of the answers to problems you have now you already know and you probably learned five years ago so the ironically we were talking about this just before the episode and last year on this episode that life is a spiral curriculum and that you look back on your

Speaker 1 yeah you look on your journals from when you were like 19 and even who you think was your 19 like idiot self was still telling you the same thing that you're doing same problems isn't it same problems over and over the day one feature of like today a year ago five years ago ten years ago and you're writing the same fucking but you're the same person that's why like the common thread between all of that is you and lots of stuff changes on the surface but fundamentally the same challenges that you have the same emotions that come up the same worries and concerns you do you go oh my god so much has changed in life you know i'm a dad now in a different country now a different career now, whatever it might be.

Speaker 1 And you go,

Speaker 1 you're still the same person. So

Speaker 1 all right, my next one, one that we've done a long, long time ago, but continues to pay huge dividends. Clip the curtains together in hotel rooms using the trouser hanger.

Speaker 1 I challenge anybody

Speaker 1 to take me on with that. You get into a hotel room and these curtains for no reason have got, you know, a three-inch or a two-inch gap between them.

Speaker 1 And you've tried to sort of do that weird thing where you push them

Speaker 1 and see, and then they sort of settle, and they settle a bit better sometimes. And you're like, oh, is that good? Should I leave it? And you go, I'm going to go again.

Speaker 1 You do it, and it's further apart, and you're like, fuck.

Speaker 1 Set of trouser hangers from the wardrobe, pin it at the top. If you've got two trouser hangers, one, two, and then three, four at the bottom,

Speaker 1 pitch black, beautiful. Why not just wear an eye mask?

Speaker 1 You could, but sometimes even with an eye mask, you're rolling around, it comes off a little.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's just, I think you should always optimize for environment first and then other stuff second.
Technically, the light receptors on the skin will also expose the skin.

Speaker 1 I think about that all the time.

Speaker 1 The back of your knee can actually wake you up. So, that's that.

Speaker 1 And then, I guess, the other one, which is related to sleep, I spent a lot of time on the road again this year, a lot of time in hotels.

Speaker 1 Good pillow, bad bed, good night's sleep, bad pillow, good bed, bad night's sleep. Basically, the pillow is your most important thing.

Speaker 1 Pillow is the most important thing

Speaker 1 because it's the most sort of

Speaker 1 obvious experience of you interacting with the bed is whether or not it's this sort of

Speaker 1 those ones that fucking yeah

Speaker 1 sleeping or drowning here and uh yeah that's it pin the curtains together in a hotel bedroom and optimize for uh better pillows and the way you can do that what you want to do is find what pillow do you like and then how available is it on Amazon Prime worldwide.

Speaker 1 And then if you can find one that you like that's available like that and it isn't an insane price, you can add, you know, £25 or whatever onto a stay, but improve your sleep quality by maybe 30 minutes or an hour a night by just ordering a pillow to the hotel.

Speaker 1 You get in, you're like, ah, fuck, it's one of the ones. Get the order done next day, get a good night's sleep.

Speaker 1 There's a Kelly Sturrette thing, like a piece of advice from years ago, where if you lie on the mattress and you bend one leg, the mattress is the wrong

Speaker 1 level of turgidity. So, like, if you, that's like you're going into extension, so you bend, you bend one leg to get out of extension.
Yep. And I think that's if the mattress is too hard.

Speaker 1 That, that's the thing. So, with the pillow versus mattress thing, I could sleep with no pillow, but if the mattress is bad, I wake up and I'm like, tight hitch, tightness.

Speaker 2 Your Kelly Starrett hack with pillows has changed my life as well.

Speaker 1 Wow. It won't even be a life using the towel roll.

Speaker 2 I think it's from a, it'll be from like a 2017 life hacks or something.

Speaker 1 It's back when it was like phone video Kelly Storette on YouTube. Is it the towel roller thing?

Speaker 1 And it's lying like it's like tucking your shoulder back and then the towel sits here. And then everything's in the back.
So I followed that, but I just put another pillow in between the two top arms.

Speaker 1 So the pillows are crossed. No, so one's behind my head and then I turn over to like spoon.

Speaker 1 It's a makeshift pregnancy pillow. But it's not for the legs because I found that if I had one.
Too hot.

Speaker 1 It just disrupts if you've got you've got to do this Brazilian jiu-jitsu, you know, like sweep the legs and then pull it up and over.

Speaker 1 If anyone that uses a pregnancy pillow consistently, very impressive, but you can't move side to side. So normal pillow.
G, what you got?

Speaker 1 My one

Speaker 1 relates to, you mentioned then being on the road, big thing for myself this year again. Don't have an office.
I'm often working from hotels, coffee shops, and things like that.

Speaker 1 And the combination of the Boyata portable laptop stand with the Apple Magic Keyboard and the Apple Magic Mouse. So a few points on this.

Speaker 1 Number one, this is a bit Tony Robbins, but my kind of contrarian take on the world right now, if I sit in that Peter Thiel interview, one of my contrarian takes that I give is

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 2 it's very on-brand critic. Very good.

Speaker 1 The contrarian take right now is: if you had to picture a depressed person's body language in your head, what do they look like?

Speaker 1 Slouched over.

Speaker 1 Real contrarian.

Speaker 1 Yeah, slouched over, hunched, where's their eyes? Down. Down.

Speaker 1 And people are spending eight to 10 hours a day like that, whether it's on their laptop or on their phone. So the boyata stand means that the laptop's raised like perfectly in front of you like that.

Speaker 1 Your shoulders are back on the mouse. And you go, once you go to that, you can't go back.
You look at everybody else and you go, how are you spending two hours in this depressed posture?

Speaker 1 It's like we've spoken about this previously, that I think

Speaker 1 a significant amount of people being miserable is just being in resting serious face versus resting smile face. I thought about that as well.

Speaker 2 And resting, serious body. Yes.
So I presented at the International Posture Summit.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Come right up next to me in the orional there. Come on.
Did you know? Have you seen this?

Speaker 1 No? Been in Lily Phillips.

Speaker 2 Well, so this is,

Speaker 2 there is a study that shows that your posture impacts how much much you believe your own thoughts, which is interesting.

Speaker 2 So, like, not so much mood and, you know, power pose and testosterone and cortisol ratios kind of been difficult to

Speaker 2 reproduce in the results, but believing your own thoughts. So, if you

Speaker 1 sat up

Speaker 2 Burata stand, what does he call it?

Speaker 1 Boyata. Boyata.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I've got a couple of.
Delicious. So, yeah.
But my take with that is you've seen the, is it Jonathan Haidt who did the whole anxious mind?

Speaker 1 He says, since 2008, anxiety has gone through the roof and it lines up with social media. Obviously, that's, I think, had a factor, but that's well discussed.

Speaker 1 However, it also lines up with everyone's head being down, their eyes being

Speaker 1 shoulders hunched over. Posture-pilled.
Yeah. No, I'm a big fan of it.
I will say

Speaker 1 the height that you have it at and the closeness that you have your laptop to yourself. I would come down the stairs when we were both living in the Colton house in Austin and you don't see a person.

Speaker 1 What you see is this massive MacBook like this, and because it's spread out as well, it's covering his entire body, and then this just a set of AirPod Pro Maxes poking out the top.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh, George is behind there somewhere.

Speaker 1 It's terrible for day game.

Speaker 1 If you want to pick up girls at the coffee shop, you can't do any keynote escalation. It's good for networking.
The amount of people go, he must be hardcore. What does he do?

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, he's reading David Deutsch's The Beginning of Infinity with Chat GPT opening.

Speaker 1 Fuck. All right.
Should we do a lesson?

Speaker 1 Bring it on.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Yes.
Fine. Are we out of hacks now? No, we can go back and go.
Okay, so I've got two micro hacks, but we can. Do you want to do one more round of hacks? Someone in.

Speaker 1 Do you want to do one more round of hacks? I can do another hack.

Speaker 1 Let's do another round of hacks.

Speaker 1 I had another hack chambered, ready to go. Fire it.
But now it's made me question my hack the hack I've picked. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 I am worrying, though. I'm going to say

Speaker 1 walking pad.

Speaker 1 Have we done that before? Walking pad walking pad

Speaker 1 it's like a desk treadmill both just like yeah exactly so you need a standing desk and then it's a treadmill that's like you can't run on i mean i've never tried but it says don't run on it so i figure like probably best to listen is that why you stopped running exactly yeah but the just that as a way of you just do like two hours of work while on that you forget that you're on it And you, I think it's like 2,000 steps every, or like maybe 4,000 steps an hour.

Speaker 1 Can't be be 4,000 an hour. Why? Oh, no, no, it could be.
Yeah, you know. At that pace? Yeah, probably about 4,000 an hour.
Because you thought that was too many.

Speaker 1 Originally, but now I've repurposed. Realize you're wrong.
Yeah, I am. Walking pad.
And what kind of pace? Because do you ever get to a pace where you're going too fast and then you can't

Speaker 1 quickly? Yeah. The classic type A problem.
Then you're like, all I'm doing now is walking. Looking at my screen.
Yeah. Trying not to just slightly miss the walking pad and walk into the computer.

Speaker 1 What types of work? Well, a sorry, what speed have you found useful and then what types of work have you found? 3.5. 3.5.
And that miles, kilometers? It's just what it says on the screen.

Speaker 1 You've both got the same one, right? I think we might have the similar one. We have the same one.

Speaker 1 Right, but your legs are longer. Doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 I would imagine you walk quicker than these two. Does that matter?

Speaker 1 We're talking about preferences here.

Speaker 1 But it actually means that they're walking a little bit more quickly. The question was, what speed have you found useful?

Speaker 1 You all like the same speed don't ask me my preference and then tell me that i'm not going to litigate me out of it yeah

Speaker 1 tie me up so yeah 3.5 next question what type of work

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 so you would think it needs to be like email or but it can be anything

Speaker 1 it i think it just helps you just drop into whatever you're doing well there's that kind of thing about uh when you're on

Speaker 1 when you're on a phone call that's getting intense you stand up and start walking around because we're meant to locomote while we think i'm i'm picturing you alan Partridge style, with like a Bluetooth headset on,

Speaker 1 shorts, going 100K or it's going to sky.

Speaker 1 I once heard a story of, you know, so Ari Emmanuel,

Speaker 1 you can't see it. Okay, it's not that bad.
Ari Emmanuel, who Ari Gold was based off on Entourage. So they own the UFC,

Speaker 1 WWE. He's like the apex lawyer in America for entertainment.
And he's heavily dyslexic. So he just spends all day on the phone rather than doing anything that would

Speaker 1 use dyslexia, I guess. And I knew somebody who was in the office walking past his room and he's on a full incline treadmill with like speaker on, just saying, fuck him, fuck him for another million.

Speaker 1 Fuck him for another million. We're not moving till we fuck him for another million.

Speaker 2 That's the gateway drug, isn't it? He's gradually stepping.

Speaker 1 That's where you're going to be 12 months' time. Oh, the RPG, one of those.

Speaker 1 Fucking people for a million. A

Speaker 1 sister to your one is I found when I was in America, because the time zones reversed, I'd wake up at 6 a.m. and you've already got so many bits of work that you have to do.

Speaker 1 So you have such a high cortisol state. Going on my phone, incline treadmill, and then just working for the first 30 minutes, replying to messages and emails meant that the cortisol.

Speaker 1 in the morning is then getting counterbalanced by the incline treadmill.

Speaker 2 I knew a guy who, you've met him actually, who would do cardio and just have TikTok on like autoplay because he said it made 45 minutes just

Speaker 1 only allowing social media usage when you're doing inclined cardio is actually

Speaker 1 that's not bad

Speaker 1 but but like purposefully doing social media usage because you're an inclined cardio feels like you end up fitter but also a bit like tweaked do you find because steve jobs famously used to only do walking meetings or a lot of walking meetings have you found doing it for meetings useful

Speaker 1 Or do you not want to be that guy? Me and Johnny used to try and record podcasts whilst going on. So I was going to say that.

Speaker 1 It's not really the audience to say like, well, I think I did better podcasting because Chris is quite good at podcasting. But I think it's, you produce a better podcast while walking.

Speaker 1 Apart from the sound. Apart from the sound.
But who cares about the sound? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Meetings are the only thing I would struggle with for some reason. I think because you just feel like

Speaker 1 you know, I'm a guy walking on the meeting. It very much depends what sort of a meeting it is as well.
You know, it's like if it's if it's you just, okay, you like recap me on this way.

Speaker 1 It's you know it's kind of sort of standard stuff. Okay, like here we go.
I'll have a little plod.

Speaker 1 And if it's a really serious meeting and you're the only one walking and you're the one being really serious, the art of like perfectly level walking.

Speaker 1 So only your legs are moving, but you're just squat jog.

Speaker 1 I think you'd have a little bit of

Speaker 1 shift.

Speaker 1 What brand did you go for? Don't know. But I do know it's out of stock.
But if you go on Amazon, Amazon, that's two great things. If you go on Amazon, well, they cancel each other out, don't they?

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. If you go on Amazon and search Walking Pad, Walking Pad, pretty much any of them.
They range from,

Speaker 1 I think you tried to find like a bean one, didn't you? For like 50, 60 quid. Up to whatever you want.
300 quid, 200, 300 quid. Get you a good one.

Speaker 1 All right, Steph, you're up.

Speaker 2 Create your product promo there.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it is. And they can range certain ways.

Speaker 1 50 quid, maybe.

Speaker 2 So, this is also the springboard off your and your hack, which is just to only do voice notes while i'm walking so it's just to get me out the house because i know that if i got a desk pad it would enable my screen time and i'd be doing it more and so dicky bush who um twice now

Speaker 1 chris mentioned it before

Speaker 2 there we go double dicky so

Speaker 2 he just said don't do any work that at your desk that could be done walking. And that includes like emails, voice notes.

Speaker 2 And to be honest, like most writing now with GPT, you can just dump a bunch of words into an audio file. And

Speaker 1 I mean, if you get a walking pad, it's all work, isn't it?

Speaker 2 It's all work. But then you're just at your desk.

Speaker 1 You're still walking.

Speaker 1 What is it that you're looking for to get outside?

Speaker 2 To get outside.

Speaker 1 Or have environment change. And you can now walk with AirPods in talking to yourself, and people no longer think you're a nutter.
It's great because they think you might be on a call.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's not bad. good all right um which one am i gonna choose next

Speaker 1 last year i said sleep token this year i'm gonna say bear tooth and it's gonna make you very happy that i've finally come around to listening to bear tooth really phenomenal most recent album they just put out the london vlog uh the song at the end that we had and the sort of the tune that was threaded throughout uh shout out to caleb the front man who sent me the stems from the track so he sent me the track broken up into its individual component parts so he could really really dial that in.

Speaker 1 That was very kind of him to do. And I just, they were my top play track of this year.
I felt like important. That's still alive.
Alive.

Speaker 1 You hit attention. Yep, of course.
So good. Good.
Bit mincey compared, but it's all right. No, good.

Speaker 1 That whole album's fantastic. It only came out in October, and I think they still managed to get into my Spotify rapped.
So

Speaker 1 place of,

Speaker 1 I'll do another one, given that that one was just music. Mitchum Deodrant.

Speaker 1 So Luke got me onto this last year, and uh, there is no deodorant that's anywhere near as good.

Speaker 1 This isn't just like the smell of it is fantastic, the price of it's great, the quality doesn't leave any white marks, and everyone's sort of looking for what's the best sort of deodorant.

Speaker 1 I'm not a fucking medieval peasant, I don't use Roland deodorant, but spray Mitchum, and they also have in every boots of UK airports, they'll have the travel size.

Speaker 1 So, you can actually take a 50mm travel, throw that in your bag. Pretty sick.
Mitchim and Beartooth. So, what's good about it? Smells good, doesn't leave any white marks, and you don't sweat.

Speaker 1 It just seems

Speaker 1 all the boxes. It's yeah.
And as of yet, most of them have a lingering smell, like dove. Dove deodorant.
You can smell somebody wearing it from like fucking um a few miles away, and I don't like that.

Speaker 1 It's like it basically odorless, but does the job. So unbeatable.

Speaker 1 Naughty. Naughty.

Speaker 1 Speaking of naughty, my one is not naughty. It's a prompt for AI.

Speaker 1 So either chat GPT, Claude, whatever your, that's actually a life hog within itself, is to be an absolute LLM or,

Speaker 1 if you can,

Speaker 1 is the following prompt. So

Speaker 1 do you know the Elon Musk quote? It's around how to learn. It's essentially this idea that you want to view knowledge as a semantic tree.

Speaker 1 So you start at the roots, then you go up to the trunk, then you have the branches, then you have like the secondary branches, then you have the leaves.

Speaker 1 Whereas often the way we'll approach things is, oh, I want to learn about the heart. I'll just put on this random Andrew Hueman podcast with the specialist about the heart and just kind of hop in.

Speaker 1 But you don't have any of the roots or anything there. So you never actually retain any information.

Speaker 1 Whereas when you treat knowledge as a semantic tree, you work all the way up from the base and then all the way there.

Speaker 1 And a big realization this year was it's kind of a bit of a Deutsch concept, but essentially this idea that the only thing, the only bottleneck that really exists is knowledge.

Speaker 1 And then you look at, okay, you have all these great people who are self-taught. So you can just teach yourself from Nicola Tesla to Leonardo da Vinci.

Speaker 1 You have access to the alphabet, so you can understand any concept with words. You have access to...

Speaker 1 numeracy, which is only 10 digits, but you can access, you can understand any mathematical equation with numbers.

Speaker 1 Therefore, the only bottleneck to literally every single thing in your life, skill issue, knowledge so placing that into chord or chat gpt and you realize i can learn anything starting from there so you start with the you say the specific elong quote and you say teach me about x but start with the roots and then work all the way up and don't move to the next layer until i say i understand and you're constantly just moving up and you realize oh i can literally teach myself anything

Speaker 2 this is a nice development from your last year's one which was treat me like a total idiot and start at zero until I say I understand and then go to step one and then step one.

Speaker 1 The step here is to really then you can then just move it into like a mind mapping software and literally just build the tree yourself.

Speaker 1 So then you have that semantic tree in your head of all the interweaving parts.

Speaker 2 Big mistake that I made when studying medicine was not doing that earlier. You have to have like a framework or a skeleton to be able to hang concepts on.

Speaker 2 Otherwise you are just learning raw data and it's so difficult.

Speaker 1 There's nothing connecting. And you're just memorizing like you did at school.
You're never actually understanding. There's nothing tipping point.

Speaker 2 Yes. Like if you just brute force raw dog enough data, eventually you'll start to see the coalescing parts kind of join the dots, but it's not a fun way to do it here.

Speaker 1 Rough going. Is there something you've used that for recently?

Speaker 1 I started yesterday with longevity. So I'm going to, because that's a topic that I've always wanted to learn about, but I just kick the can down the road because I'm like, where do I even begin?

Speaker 1 So I started with that.

Speaker 1 With any kind of topic that will come up now, I will just wait for you.

Speaker 1 For the

Speaker 1 LLM non-monogamous out there, what do you use each platform for? Have you found certain things about uncertain platforms?

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a huge asterisk here that this will be outdated by tomorrow because it's constantly literally yesterday they released the new

Speaker 1 O version.

Speaker 1 And then you have X now getting

Speaker 1 the, it's like three times the number of super computer clusters with the Grok AI that's going to go live.

Speaker 1 So me right now, I vary between Claude and ChatGPT, but I would be shocked if next year I'm saying the exact same thing. Yeah, it seems like Google is Google's great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The new Grok one now where you can be on Twitter and ask Grok to explain things to you.

Speaker 1 Grok has way fewer bottlenecks. It's way less politically correct as well.
It has access to Twitter's live data.

Speaker 1 It's being updated much more quickly, but it's also being updated by people who are on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Highly dangerous data set there to use.

Speaker 1 Lesson, Johnny. Lesson.
You got a lesson? I do.

Speaker 1 So it's a reframe on hard things or a hard thing. So I think, so something that

Speaker 1 I think I've been guilty of is not necessarily thinking like, when I achieve this, I'll be happy, but rather like, when I achieve this, problem's gone. Like, solve that thing now.
And actually,

Speaker 1 I mean, it's mainly a propane thing. So like, propane's grown a lot over the last two, three years.

Speaker 1 And you always think, like, we'll hit this revenue, we'll hire this person, we'll achieve this thing, no more problems. But actually, all that happens is the new, more thorny, harder problem.

Speaker 1 And reframing that as like, that is the thing where the development, that's the development opportunity, because the next revenue level, the next, the next achievement just always just feels exactly the same as the last one.

Speaker 1 Doesn't matter the size of it, exactly the same, but the who you become as a result of solving the problem at the level that you're at,

Speaker 1 that's the gain. So the phrase that I remind myself of is for every level there's a devil.
And it's just

Speaker 1 the current devil you're facing.

Speaker 1 That's because we've had like a very weird year in business, like a very like lots of problems that I think we'd have never expected. And your immediate response to that is like, oh.

Speaker 1 But actually, if you reframe that as like,

Speaker 1 that's where the growth is, that's where the personal growth is, see it differently. And it becomes almost like

Speaker 1 not exciting, but like it's some, it's like, wow, there's something on the other side of this.

Speaker 1 So that's been my lesson for this year. Probably the biggest one.
I think that's really good. It's not too dissimilar to what we spoke about last year.

Speaker 1 And I think what all of us are kind of zeroing in on, which is accepting that things are going to be tough, but not necessarily white-knuckling our way through it and not assuming that there's any additional nobility in white-knucking it and trying to increase the difficulty or sort of the hustle pawning your way through things.

Speaker 1 It's like, look, if there's a way that I can make this simpler or find the gummy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 How can you have a creating gummy for every different thing? And

Speaker 1 yeah, I think

Speaker 1 assuming that one day you're going to wake up and there'll be no problems is.

Speaker 1 I remember the, I think it was Mark Zuckerberg on maybe on Rogan where he was like describing his morning. Has anyone heard this?

Speaker 1 So like Mark's, Mark Zuckerberg's morning was like, he wakes up and he goes and surfs because like when he looks at his phone, it's really, all, really shit bad news.

Speaker 1 And I was like, well, like, because like, that's my morning. And it's like, his bad news will be far worse.

Speaker 2 How many unreads have you got currently on Telegram?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm

Speaker 2 like 46,000.

Speaker 1 I think you're right more.

Speaker 1 No, I think the other day it was like one, two, three, four for me. And I've screenshotted it.

Speaker 1 It's particularly satisfying.

Speaker 1 On this lesson, there's a

Speaker 1 beautiful. Have you ever heard of the book called The Gap and the Gain? Benjamin Arde.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So there's one line in that that stuck with me and I still think about and it's kind of a semi-life hack related to this, which is

Speaker 1 forget your current problem, whatever it is. Just go back to a maybe even a more severe problem in the past, whether it's girlfriend cheated on you,

Speaker 1 fired from job,

Speaker 1 insert problem, whatever it is, right?

Speaker 1 And you go back and go, with the benefit of hindsight now, what would have been the worst interpretation of that problem? It's like, okay, girlfriend cheated on me. I'm a loser.

Speaker 1 I'm going to binge a load of food. I'm going to write a load of angry Facebook statuses about her.
Didn't work.

Speaker 1 That's the kind of worst interpretation of that problem. And you go, okay, well, what was the

Speaker 1 now detached from it? What would have been the best interpretation of that? It's like, okay, I'm going to book this personal trainer for three months.

Speaker 1 I'm going to book this trip with my friends that I was putting off because I was supposed to go on holiday with her, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 And you look at that now in the cold light of day and which one did you believe? Which one do you wish that you chose?

Speaker 1 it's so obvious so you do that for the past problem and then you just go okay now i'm at current problem what what's the current worst interpretation of this

Speaker 1 what's the current best interpretation of this

Speaker 1 which one do you want to choose next

Speaker 1 what would you tomorrow want you today to choose the choco

Speaker 1 and then refuse literally do that exercise and just refuse to get up until you've hypnotized yourself that it's the best thing to ever happen to you the uh uh mark andreessen was on the show the other week and he gave me this quote from sean parker that said running a startup is like eating glass.

Speaker 1 You just start to like the taste of your own blood.

Speaker 1 And I think that's the acceptance that after a long enough amount of time, problems are always going to be there. You're not going to get to a point where there aren't any problems.

Speaker 1 As the CEO or founder of a business, your only job is to work on the hardest problems, the problems that nobody else can fix. And they always stop with you and there will always be pressure.

Speaker 1 Okay. The more advanced you are in any field and any pursuit, the problems are worse, aren't they? Or more or more complicated, more painful.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And it's just easier to be at the basic level of everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So if you're going to pursue the journey of like, well, I want to achieve the highest level in anything, it's like, well, the final level going from level nine to level 10 is going to have the worst problem attached to it.

Speaker 1 So that's the price. Is that the price that you're prepared to pay? I think there's some truth to that, but I think that's also the benefit of hindsight.

Speaker 1 You now look back at level one problems as so obvious because you're now a level nine person. But then as soon as you get to level 29, you look back at level nine in the same

Speaker 1 cost

Speaker 1 of the person you become by solving each problem.

Speaker 1 So that's a much more succinct way of saying what i was saying is that like it's only it's that it's the person you are as a on the other side of the problem of like wow that was so basic like two years ago i was worrying about this thing that's really easy now yeah because if that challenge came back up to you again now you're so easy fine no worries yeah that's very interesting that's cool i like that you've got one We didn't coordinate this, but

Speaker 2 you've described the irony of the human condition that we will always hit this spiral curriculum and still run into the same problems. And with our clients, we have the same thing.

Speaker 2 So we help coaches to move online, and they often think that if I can just fix my lead generation, then my life will be sorted and it'll be absolutely, you know, I've completed it.

Speaker 2 And then all that happens is like very quickly from working with us, you know, we fix, fix that problem. It's not actually that hard a problem to solve.

Speaker 2 But then they end up with a sales bottleneck. And then they fix that and they end up with a fulfillment bottleneck.
And then they fix that and end up with an operational bottleneck.

Speaker 2 And they're like, oh, actually, like, life isn't just sunshine and rainbows after this one thing that I can solve.

Speaker 2 So, for me, very similar lesson, which was we are the ones that define success in our lives. And

Speaker 2 yet, for some reason, we have a desire, we close the gap somehow by fulfilling the desire, and then we move the goalposts, and then we keep doing that.

Speaker 2 And we're like, oh, why am I perpetually dissatisfied?

Speaker 2 And hearing your podcast with Andrew Wilkinson, billionaire, who's just like his main conclusion from becoming a billionaire is, oh, I'm still the same, like, miserable, dissatisfied person I've ever been, but with more money.

Speaker 2 And it's like, it takes somebody who's actually like smashed that particular stream to be like, ah, maybe the answers aren't hiding behind more money or whatever.

Speaker 2 And so ultimately, we defer gratification for, or we feel like we're suffering the most in the thing that we're most deficient in.

Speaker 2 So whether it's money or time or friendships or whatever, that's like the thing which is like the alligator at the boat.

Speaker 2 And whoever has something like that, that, it's like the drowning man wanting air, they feel like that is the thing which, if they solve it, life would be complete.

Speaker 2 So like in cell forums, they're obsessed with like, if I could just get a girlfriend, then I'd be totally fine. And the weird thing about all of this, I think, when I kind of reflect on this is that

Speaker 2 the domains of life that we have sorted, and most of us like watching this, you know, if you're watching this, hopefully you're healthy, you have access to being outside, you're not in prison, you, you know, you have central heating, like all this stuff, like physical health and time and family and sun and all that stuff is just fully available in abundance.

Speaker 2 But we just go, oh, no, but I need another two grand or I need another whatever. And so

Speaker 2 I guess the lesson is to stop moving the goalposts.

Speaker 2 Or if you do, recognize that it's just a game that we're playing, but you can still recognize that you are happy right now and all that suffering of the gap is just caused by the mind.

Speaker 2 So Felix Dennis has a book called How to Get Rich, which is, he's, he's made it really like distasteful in the way that it's branded and stuff.

Speaker 2 And he's sat there like, like a maniacal like monocle and

Speaker 2 you know, the kind of

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 he's trying to paint this picture that you are,

Speaker 2 you set that as the goal. And he says, I'm writing this at the age of 83.

Speaker 2 And if you're reading this book, book, I would swap places with you in a heartbeat because you have the one thing that I don't, which is time.

Speaker 2 And I've made my $300 million or whatever to then go and sit in a wood cabin and write poetry.

Speaker 1 And I could have done that at 30.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I had that realization.
It's kind of like a nice meme, but you're already a billionaire just in an illiquid asset, which is your health.

Speaker 1 Because any billionaire, and there'll be a lot out there right now, or centre millionaires that are on their deathbed would give everything for your health. Therefore, yes, you can't liquidize it yet.

Speaker 1 Maybe you will be in the future. But illiquid wealth, you're already a billionaire, which is a wild thought.

Speaker 1 The insight around the thing that you desire most is the thing that you assume will fix all of your problems.

Speaker 1 I came up with this idea the other day of unteachable lessons.

Speaker 1 And I think one of the unteachable lessons is money and fame won't fix all of the problems that you have in life because the total addressable market for more fame and more money is basically everybody.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Andrew Wilkinson, there's a billionaire coming on. It's so done.

Speaker 1 It's so done that when he even comes on, there's a bit of me that thinks we can't go down that road because I know of the anti-body response system on the internet.

Speaker 1 I also know that it just doesn't, it seems to not land. And maybe it wouldn't have landed with me.
And it probably still doesn't land.

Speaker 2 But it never does. It's, as Frankel says, it's one of the three insatiable desires: money, sex, and power.
And you can keep chasing them.

Speaker 2 So, I mean, Wilkinson was talking about his mate who was like a multi-billionaire and was like, oh, but Jeff, he's like really rich though, isn't he?

Speaker 2 And he was like, but what can Jeff afford that you can't? And they're like, oh, super yacht.

Speaker 1 Right. Okay.
So

Speaker 1 was it you, was it, who was it that taught us that lesson about how when you ask people what they want their annual income to be, it's always

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah. Do you want to tell that story? Can you remember it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, essentially, whenever you ask somebody what would be your kind of goal income where you would stop and relax a bit more, it's basically always 2.5 to 3x where you are right now.

Speaker 1 And then as soon as you hit that, it just replaces

Speaker 1 2.5.

Speaker 1 3x, 2.5x. Yeah, it's so funny.
That thing going around social media where they ask someone, like, you can, I'll give you 10 million, but you can't wake up tomorrow. Would you accept?

Speaker 1 Or like, would you want 10 million? And everyone goes, yes, yes. But then you can have 10 million, but you don't wake up in the morning.
Do you still want the 10 million? And everyone goes, oh, no.

Speaker 1 As you're saying, well, waking up tomorrow is worth more than 10 million. And people go,

Speaker 1 but if you really think about that, it is like, oh, right. So

Speaker 1 the most valuable thing is the thing that I take for granted every single day, which is, I suppose, it's the youth, it's like the future that you have ahead of you. But you ignore that.

Speaker 1 But a lot of that as well is framing because you can't cash the future in right now. Like the fact that nothing is promised beyond just this moment right now.

Speaker 1 And sure, your felt sense of it as you're older, maybe you can do less. There's less you can do with this moment right now.
But tomorrow at 80 and tomorrow right now are the exact same amount of time.

Speaker 1 So beyond the health impact of it, there is no difference. The only thing is, remember when you used to go back to school or a Monday for me, it's a good example on a Monday.

Speaker 1 For me, I go to bed on a Sunday night. I reliably have good sleep and I'm fired up for a Monday because it feels like the whole week is ahead of me.
But I get to sort of a...

Speaker 1 a Friday or a Saturday and I have this sort of retrospective energy to me where I'm thinking about the week and then it gets to Monday morning again and I'm sort of excited.

Speaker 1 And it almost feels like that. But with age, it's like there's no real reason if you can do the full non-dual fucking attachment thing.

Speaker 1 There's There's no reason why a day now and a day in 20 years time is worth any more or any less. In fact, you should.

Speaker 2 We do it at all time frames, don't we? Because I'm sure in our 20s, we were like, oh, but the 30s and then the 40s, it's the same.

Speaker 1 At some point, it's going to flip, right?

Speaker 1 At some point, it's going to be like, oh, but if you're not careful about it, that you're going to get older and start thinking wistfully about what was behind, not hopefully about what's to come.

Speaker 1 Is it not multiplied by like physical ability? By a big margin. Like enjoying anything is magnified when you can walk.
There's no pain. There's no, you're fully mobile.

Speaker 1 All right. My first one.
That was fucking awesome. That was a good one, too.
That was a good one.

Speaker 1 This, again, from your birthday, outcomes matter more than inputs.

Speaker 1 You've been on this flex for quite a while. It's not too dissimilar to I look for efficiency over, I look for effectiveness over efficiency.

Speaker 1 But outcomes matter more than inputs.

Speaker 1 A lot of the time, especially as you get sort of further into black belt territory on the productivity bro optimization world, you do this sort of weird rain dance, this sort of productivity rain dance of lots of things that maybe you needed them previously or maybe they never served you or maybe they did serve you, but they don't serve you now.

Speaker 1 But you keep doing them. You have these sort of odd

Speaker 1 attachments to ways of working and things that you do or members of staff or systems or processes or whatever it is. And

Speaker 1 what's that quote about people working so hard and achieving so little? Who's that? Andy Grove. Andy Grove.
There are so many people working so hard and achieving so little.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 is this like don't conflate suffering with productivity or is it more like don't get attached to old systems that it's got you to wake up the suffering the suffering thing is is probably a part of it but this is probably even more zoomed out than that which is a lot of the time people focus on how hard i've worked during the day regardless of whether it was suffering or not it's what i did all of this stuff look at all of the effort that i put in he goes what did you do on the back end of that because we've all had jobs projects, things that we needed to finish.

Speaker 1 And the very thing that you're putting off is the most important thing that you're supposed to do. And you go, dude, I worked all day.
And you go, track what you did today. You cleaned the kitchen.

Speaker 1 You had this huge email to write and you cleaned, you spent 45 minutes cleaning the fucking kitchen. Why do you do that? Well, I worked really hard today.

Speaker 1 And it's like, yes, yes, yes, but what were you trying to achieve? And it's also, I think, just a reminder that. Effectiveness is really the only thing that matters.

Speaker 1 You can continue to put your foot harder and harder and harder on the accelerator, but if you've also got your foot on the brake or if you're driving in the wrong direction, it kind of doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 So outcomes matter more than inputs, as in

Speaker 1 a lot of the time, because you're the feedback loop on when am I going to get the output is usually a little bit down the line.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's going to be tomorrow, maybe it's going to be next year, maybe it's going to be in five years time or whatever. The only thing that you can bounce off is inputs.

Speaker 1 How much work did I do today? And then,

Speaker 1 for instance, you wake up on a morning and

Speaker 1 you're you've slept in by three hours and immediately you feel like a piece of shit. You think I'm a piece of shit because I slept in.
And you go right, okay.

Speaker 1 You're looking at such a brief window. Like the entirety of your life.

Speaker 2 But I'm in the lower quartile of the

Speaker 1 sleep regularity.

Speaker 1 The entirety of your life and you've taken this one moment and be like, because of that one thing that I did, it's like, what if that allows you to get way more out of this week?

Speaker 1 What if this allows you to get closer to your goals much more quickly? Or what if this is just something that your body needs so that you can be happier?

Speaker 2 And there's the one way to guarantee that you won't get the best out of this week is if you just beat yourself up for it. For the rest of the day,

Speaker 1 there's a fun idea here, which is

Speaker 1 just only setting on your to-do list the biggest thing that you have to do. And sometimes it might be like 10 minutes long.

Speaker 1 It might be send an email or fire this person or put this job ad live and then just give yourself the rest of the day off. I did that for a few weeks and it was fucking weird.
You feel brilliant.

Speaker 1 But you also still have it, to your point, that kind of Protestant guilt that I need to be working. Why are you not working?

Speaker 1 Even though I've achieved more than I would do by doing the most important thing, there's then just this sense of anxious, I need to be busy. I need to be busy.
So that's the first one.

Speaker 1 And then the second one is,

Speaker 1 yeah, if you don't know what the most important thing is, you've identified what the most important thing is and it's figuring out

Speaker 1 what the most important thing. So it's a beautiful loop.
There's a like a really old Tim Ferriss article about this, about like how he stays productive.

Speaker 1 It's called like productivity tips for depressive people like me or something like that. But

Speaker 1 there's loads of quotes in it like doing something well doesn't make it important, which I think about all the time. Doing something well doesn't make it important.
Does not make it important.

Speaker 1 That's it in a meeting. And like being busy is a form of like indiscriminate action and procrastination.
Like busy people just don't know what to focus on.

Speaker 1 Well, your calendar is a better indication of your wealth than your bank account. Yeah.
And then write out the practical thing is write out all of your to-dos,

Speaker 1 pick like the top three that make you most scared, then pick one of them and just do it for three hours. Beautiful.
And that's, that's how he says productive.

Speaker 1 Like what effectively wrestling with theirs?

Speaker 1 Would it be with your to-do-like? Fighting an axe.

Speaker 1 Legally representing Lily Phillips.

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 It's always the thing that makes you mad. It's a to-be guy 100.

Speaker 1 It's looking your to-do list and pick the thing. You're like, oh.
So the asterisk I give to that, you know, you mentioned then the one that will, and then do three hours on that.

Speaker 1 The key thing there is even, you know, Elon Musk's algorithm of like question every assumption and then simplify, simplify, simplify.

Speaker 1 Even that I would drop off, do three hours because it might, the biggest thing might just be, I need to break up with this person or I need to do

Speaker 1 that thing.

Speaker 1 Parkinson's law the breakup out into three hours long.

Speaker 1 Right. So we've got

Speaker 1 or I need to book this flight to this location and it might, or I need to set up this banking. But if you've got three hours blocked out, you're definitely going to get it done, aren't you? True.

Speaker 1 I think that's the point: is like, fence off, like, don't try to be this, like, oh, just do 10 minutes later, I'll do like the most important thing to do today is that thing, that's all you're doing until lunch until it's finished.

Speaker 1 But it's no one ever does it, and people write too many things in their to-do list, don't get them done, and push them over to tomorrow. John Mita, you're up kind of related to this one.

Speaker 1 It's a it's a good, it's a very cool one. So funny how all of the hacks and all of the lessons end up.
We haven't coordinated this before. No, we don't know about doing it before.

Speaker 1 This is like a life hack/slash lesson, they're both both related.

Speaker 1 And I call it turning bullshit into reality.

Speaker 1 And I'll do the exercise with you guys now.

Speaker 1 If I only did this every day, whenever I've done it, I've gone, that's a great day. So we start with bullshit.

Speaker 1 What are your values? Do you have any that come to mind?

Speaker 1 And if you don't have, like, I've thought through like my values, blah, blah, blah, that bullshit. Any values that you just immediately come to mind of things that you'd like to do more of, Johnny?

Speaker 1 There's no wrong answer. Physical challenge.
Physical challenge, Yusuf? Pass. Just come on.

Speaker 1 Come on. Just give me something that you value, like that you would like to.
Organized more gratitude. Gratitude.
I don't know. Yeah, gratitude.
Gratitude. Okay, cool.
Adventure. Adventure.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So you create an Apple note and you put that value at the top. Now you have to creatively brainstorm 10 ways you can do that.
So for example, physical challenge, it could be. Run.

Speaker 1 But like run 5K, right? Run 5K.

Speaker 1 It could, what was yours again?

Speaker 2 The gratitude trigger.

Speaker 1 Gratitude. It could be write a thank you letter to ABC and yours was

Speaker 1 adventure. It could be message the group chat to arrange this holiday that we've been putting off.
Okay. So just write down 10 and then just go through, do, go through, do, go through, do.

Speaker 1 And you've taken this kind of esoteric bullshit value that you've always wanted to have. Into next action.
From neurons to atoms.

Speaker 2 That's very cool. The reason I struggle with the values thing is that I think you've got to to be very cautious about what you say are your core values.

Speaker 1 You can mix those up, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but so reading Patrick Lancioni recently, and he said a lot of companies will go like, oh, yeah, we'll do our values statement. And they say, our country values honesty and integrity.

Speaker 2 And you're like, okay, but unless you value honesty above the market baseline, you don't actually value honesty. That's not one of your core values because everyone should value honesty by

Speaker 2 baseline. So he's like, the only time you should say you have a company value is if you are actually like above above the market trend.

Speaker 1 Ultimately, the only thing that matters with values is did you do the thing?

Speaker 1 Because even if you didn't think of the values, but you did the thing, then you actually valued it more than saying, I have values. So even there.

Speaker 1 That's unless you whip yourself into doing a thing that you didn't want to do. And then after the fact, you didn't want to do that.

Speaker 1 The reason why this exercise I think is actually useful is because what ends up happening when you do it is it's a load of things that have been rattling around your subconscious in the shower or before you go to bed that begin to percolate percolate

Speaker 1 someday and as you guys know as you mentioned earlier as you move up levels levels levels the thing that seems to happen is you get way more urgent but not still important but not super important stuff whereas this is time to moving from like just being reactive each day to being proactive like for example the gratitude one when would you really go i'm gonna write this thank you letter you might have been putting off this thank you letter for four years that would take you 10 minutes to do but with this and and then when you actually reflect on the year it's one of the few things that you actually remember you've also brought yourself in alignment with the person that you want to be as well which is quite a nice side effect too exactly and then you and then if you can just move that to another note you just keep storing storing that i am that person

Speaker 1 nice should we do some resolutions uh i basically had this idea that uh

Speaker 1 Coming up with resolutions for yourself a lot of the time, whatever it is, by March, some ungodly percentage of people have already stopped doing the thing they said was the most important thing at the start of the year.

Speaker 1 A good part of that is maybe habit change and behavior change is difficult to do, but maybe a bigger part of it is, well, they chose the wrong things.

Speaker 1 Like the stuff that I've chosen that stuck with me for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 And I figured, I don't think I've ever seen anyone do this before, but what are the highest ROI resolutions or new habits or behavior change things that you've done?

Speaker 1 Simple things, given that, you know, this is going out on Christmas Eve, Eve

Speaker 1 and people are going to be thinking about it. This This might actually be a nice little finger food buffet that people could go.
Actually, the boys said that this one really stuck.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to go with that. Have you got any? I do.
Cool.

Speaker 1 I, for the last,

Speaker 1 I didn't do it last year. I did like three years in a row of a version of 75 Hard.

Speaker 1 Has anyone ever done that before? Adapted 75 Hard. Just because when you look at actually 75 Hard out of the box, there are things in it that I think are too hard.
Too hard. Fuck too hard.

Speaker 1 No, just there for, I think, maybe slightly destructive in some ways. And also, I just don't want to do.
Which ones did you find? So, like, training twice a day, every day.

Speaker 1 I just don't think there's any, I don't think that, I think there's ways to pursue that sort of goal without those things.

Speaker 1 It's like drinking a gallon of water.

Speaker 1 Stone the adopter is. It seems like an arbitrary.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I realize it's there because it's hard, but I think the thing

Speaker 1 is.

Speaker 1 Not for me. The thing that's hard about it is you have to do the things that like the habits you set to do for 75 days in a row.
And if you miss a day, you go back to the beginning.

Speaker 1 And I think as a, like just trying to do that, you realize how hard that is and how many like little bullshit reasons come up and how you have to kind of like go out of your way a lot of the time to tick off the box.

Speaker 1 I think it's a good lesson.

Speaker 2 Can you regale us of

Speaker 2 our friend who set himself a target of having a banana every day?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, yeah. So our friend Ben,

Speaker 1 one of his things was have a banana. I think because he'd read it was something to do like good for bowel health.

Speaker 1 And it got to like 11 o'clock at night. He was staying in Cambridge, didn't have a banana.
So he was driving around Cambridge trying to find a banana. He's also like meditated.

Speaker 1 So one of his things when we were doing it was meditate an hour a day. He's meditated at a wedding before, like gone out, left the wedding.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Was he the groove?

Speaker 1 He went out and sat in the car and sat in the car. meditating in the car just to tick the box.

Speaker 1 I don't know, it's not something to like sustain for the rest of your life, but I think you learn, learn, you learn something about yourself when you're doing it.

Speaker 1 Well, one of the problems of it is that it doesn't agree with a varied lifestyle. Exactly.
75 heart is brilliant for the first sort of autistic

Speaker 1 two and a half months of the year. But as soon as you get into, oh, it's wedding season.
Yeah. Good luck, mate.
Yeah. Well, you have to go.
It's finding a banana. You know,

Speaker 1 me and the boys flew to Australia. You're on a plane for 17 and a bit hours.

Speaker 1 Where's the banana? Well, you couldn't plan the banana in advance.

Speaker 1 It's more that you just don't view any personal habit change or behavior change as difficult.

Speaker 1 If you've been able to stick to something for 75 days without interruption, any other change you want to make is easy. So it's the meta lesson, not the individual.

Speaker 1 It's got nothing to do with the, as long as you don't pick like ridiculously easy things.

Speaker 1 So you would, it's, you would basically say that a good resolution is to do some version of 75 hard, but adapt it into stuff that you really, really value.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it can be anything, like anything you're trying to do, but keep putting off or something you're inconsistent with, just commit to.

Speaker 1 It also doesn't have have to be 75 days, but like committing to a period of time of, I'm not going to miss a day. I'm going to like move heaven and earth to not miss a day.

Speaker 1 And you, you get to the end, you're like, oh, like, what an achievement. Anything else would be easy.

Speaker 2 So I've, yeah, there's so many adulterers and sodomites that need stoning.

Speaker 1 And if you just commit, where's that right?

Speaker 2 Oh, it's that, you know what it is? It's the like a wispy memory from the guy who I think you spoke to, Chris, who lived the Old Testament for

Speaker 1 a year.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 I thought I would have heard about that. I don't think Lewis spoke to him.
I think I spoke to him. I think it's just something you've read on the Old Testament on Newton.

Speaker 2 So those are two very, yeah, so he set himself different challenges each year.

Speaker 1 Lipped inside of a whale.

Speaker 1 Built a big...

Speaker 1 Did he build an ark?

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 he had to grow out

Speaker 2 his hair and throw pebbles at sodomites and adulterers.

Speaker 2 He tried to

Speaker 2 live the life of that verbatim for a year.

Speaker 2 And then he like, his other challenge was uh read the entire um encyclopedia britannica and he said it really pissed off his wife because is this ringing a bell no like he was just he wasn't he'd be like did you know that the uh byzantine period and she's like ah stop it with your trivia but yeah anyway he did anything

Speaker 1 somebody who did like

Speaker 1 early on it was yeah very early they did maybe something each month for a year a different thing each month for a year yes yes yes yes but not it wasn't not the odd to be a lot of things to do with that no he didn't build an arc and try and get two by two.

Speaker 1 Hi, it's welcome back to the show.

Speaker 1 This episode,

Speaker 1 we have a massive

Speaker 1 overflicking pebbles and M ⁇ S bummers.

Speaker 1 What a derailment.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 the process that we use for goal setting each year is stolen from Garrett J. White, who probably stole it from someone else, and so on.

Speaker 1 He's got a lawsuit at the moment. Yeah, I see.
Yeah, big style.

Speaker 2 Wow, interesting. So it's splitting your year into quarters and then splitting that into four domains of your life, body, being, balance, and business, or health, wealth, love, and happiness.

Speaker 2 But I quite like the alliteration. And you then basically look at, okay, what's my three-year vision? Directionally, where do I want to go? What's my one-year target for that?

Speaker 2 Divide that into quarters. What does each 12-week sprint look like in each of those domains?

Speaker 2 And then how can I do a weekly action or a daily action to hit a weekly checkpoint to hit that quarterly target target in each domain.

Speaker 2 And it's designed so that you're not like blasting it, grinding your face off with stuff.

Speaker 2 You're just turning up and just hitting a single each day so that you move towards your goal and you're fully aligned. You don't end up out of balance with like overweighting one domain of your life.

Speaker 2 So the idea is to kind of counteract people who just like double down on their business and they end up like overweight, spiritually disconnected and divorced and all this stuff, but they got the million.

Speaker 2 And so that framework's been really helpful for me.

Speaker 2 It also gives me one thing to focus on in each domain.

Speaker 2 The other big thing that's had the most impact, I think, is single tasking.

Speaker 2 For years, I drank the Kool-Aid that I can multitask and that because I've got like Alfred installed and keyboard shortcuts, whatever, I can just like flip between windows and tabs and it feels more productive because your brain's like,

Speaker 2 oh, great. There's loads of like things happening.
But the quality of that work, the attention residue, all that stuff isn't worth it.

Speaker 2 And so, like you said, about deciding what's the key thing this morning and just blast three hours on it, blinkers on, noise-canceling headphones, whatever, and just do that one thing.

Speaker 2 And then to create a loop, a feedback loop with that, you have something that is a visual or a tactile reminder of this is what I'm working on right now.

Speaker 2 And it sounds like overkill, but I think our brains are so

Speaker 2 like scatty that we need to just be fully hemmed in and forced to focus on that one thing.

Speaker 2 So whether it's a post-it note stuck on your monitor or like a floating bar that you have pinned on the top of your desktop, whatever it is, saying you are doing this right now.

Speaker 2 And then you feel like an absolute dingus if you go off task because everything's screaming like, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 The only reason that you're here. The only reason you're here is to do that.
That's cool. I like that.
So I had two.

Speaker 1 I guess you brought up sobriety, which is one of those ones that's so sort of taken for granted now that i've forgotten about it no that that used to be quite contrarian when you first started it i remember yeah yeah yeah it was fucking crazy give it five years old testament will be right in yeah you're getting stoned

Speaker 1 wow um okay so my two highest roi resolutions that i've done they've stuck with me uh number one sleep with your phone outside of your bedroom uh and number two go for a walk first thing in the morning like i've always wondered about the phone thing.

Speaker 1 Is it something specifically to do with the phone being in the bedroom, or is it just next to your bed? Is it like the fact that it's near you and it's admitting radio waves? No, no, no, no. It's just

Speaker 1 so far away that you can't use it on a nighttime and that it's not the first thing that you do in the morning.

Speaker 1 It's basically intermittent fasting for your phone with environment design, but you just take the charger for your phone and you put it outside of your fucking bedroom.

Speaker 1 It's like, I can't believe how many people

Speaker 1 still have it. It is sapping

Speaker 1 days of sleep out of you every year,

Speaker 1 days and days and days, even if you've got the best relationship with your phone in the world.

Speaker 1 Because if you can't sleep, there is always the most compelling device in human history only within arm's reach.

Speaker 1 And even if it's over the other side of the room, the problem that I would encounter is: I'm like, well, you know, like it's just there. Go, oh, I'm going to get up.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go downstairs into the kitchen. I'm going to unplug it from the place that it lives where it sleeps overnight.

Speaker 1 And then also, when you wake up on the morning, it's not there for you to see. What were you saying about Mark Zuckerberg or whoever it is?

Speaker 1 You know, all of us, we open our phone and there's just bad thing. There's terrible thing.
Issues. Well, that or it's Alexander's library.

Speaker 2 You say, oh, well, there is Alexander's Library on the other side of this room with infinite.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 whether it's framed well or badly, what's your one task now? Go to fucking sleep. So go to sleep.

Speaker 1 And then the morning walk thing just, you know, this was something that I'd started doing probably from some shit I'd learned from us researching things forever ago.

Speaker 1 And I just noticed that if I woke up and I was feeling a little nervous or sort of anxious energy or whatever, whatever I was feeling in the morning, by the time time that I'd done a 15-minute walk, by the time I came back, it just felt less strong and less important.

Speaker 1 And there's all manner of human explanations about whatever it is, the ventral dorsal stream and you're locomoting through while you're doing lateral eye movement, which downregulates the way, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 It's like, I like the midway, the guy on the left says, morning walk makes me feel nice. And those two things, I think, you know, the two that I've done

Speaker 1 in every different hotel, every different place that I've stayed, every different country that I've gone to. those are two things that I really, really try and rely on.

Speaker 1 The phone outside of the room when you're on the road is difficult. It's like plug it in in the bathroom and then go into the bedroom.

Speaker 1 But morning walk, phone outside of the bedroom have been two of the highest ROIs. You still do no caffeine, first thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So I'm avoiding that.

Speaker 2 Your point about Huberman is great that he's been able to pacify the midwits by professional.

Speaker 1 Legitimating scientifically. Yeah.

Speaker 2 For people to just follow the guy on the left stuff.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 We have this joke that so Hubeman did a and I do love Hubeman, but he did a five-part podcast with Matthew Walker on sleep and I think it was like 20 hours long and I joked that I'd be willing to bet nobody who listens to that sleeps as good as my mate Quinny who's just like just shut your eyes lad.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like who just doesn't overthink it.

Speaker 2 He deliberately doesn't optimize it because he's like if I mess with it then I'm going to sleep worse if it's not.

Speaker 1 Sleep is one of those perfect examples of

Speaker 1 one of the reasons a lot of people have insomnia is trying to overthink sleep.

Speaker 1 There was a famous study where they took two groups: one that were paid to go to sleep as fast as they can, and the other group that wasn't paid anything.

Speaker 1 And the group that wasn't paid anything fell to sleep three times as faster as the other group.

Speaker 1 So, outside of all the sleep science, the number one part of the semantic tree is don't put too much stress on yourself because then you don't take money for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah. But

Speaker 1 it's an interesting realization

Speaker 1 you need, especially now this super rational, hyper-evidence-based world where experts are only the people that are allowed to comment on stuff, that you need someone to justify something that you already did that already made you feel good.

Speaker 1 It shouldn't be the case that I need Andrew Huban to explain to me why the thing I do and like and is good and effective for me is something that I should do and like and is good and effective for me.

Speaker 1 So that's why I brought up caffeine.

Speaker 1 Because I'm not sure on, like my personal experience of that, I'm not sure I feel much of of a difference. By not having the caffeine first.
Or having caffeine first, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I I'm sure the science will tell me differently. But I think that's a good example.

Speaker 2 You're like a heavyweight boxer that can just take slugs with caffeine. You're just like.

Speaker 1 No, I think I just I have like the appropriate amount and then I stop. Lots.
Lots. Just don't get silly with it.
Lots. And not before, not after midday.
Good role. G.

Speaker 1 So I do have one, but to go like meta New Year's resolutions to begin with,

Speaker 1 the first thing is to kind of question the question. So I found this stat when I was researching New Year's resolutions last year and it's said or it said that 91% of New Year's resolutions fail.

Speaker 1 So quick little thought experiment for you, Christopher, right?

Speaker 1 Let's say

Speaker 1 you come to me and you go, oh, I need to get this flight to Paris. Wizaire's gone.
I go, I don't really, Chris, I've got this airline. It's got the 91% failure rate.
Are you going to get on it? No.

Speaker 1 Or let's say, Yusuf, I know what you're like. You've been out on the town, you've been out with Mr.

Speaker 1 Old Testament, you're having fun, you've met a lovely lady, you go back to the room, you go, Fuck, I've got no condoms, and you knock on my door, and I go, Oh, yeah, yeah, take this one.

Speaker 1 And it just says on the seal, 91% failure rate. Would you do it? No.

Speaker 1 So, if something has a 91% failure rate, you have to look at it before I think you do it. So, then you look at things like Alcoholics Anonymous.
That seems to work. I just question something.
Go on.

Speaker 1 I think the failure in those examples is it's like saying 91% of people fail to make the flight on time. Yeah.
Or 91% of people can't get the condom on. So you've gone metra about my meta.

Speaker 1 So can't I go metra about no, no, no. We won't end up in infinite labs like Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson.
What do you mean by truth, Johnny? What do you mean by condom? Exactly.

Speaker 1 So basically, I would first look at things that actually work. So I'd look at Alcoholics Anonymous, where you have a group.
So you have kind of social.

Speaker 1 shame, you have a recurring theme, you have basically New Year's resolutions operate operate like a the psychological version of North Korea versus you kind of want to move towards Singapore

Speaker 1 a system that actually works versus a horrific failure rate.

Speaker 1 So even small things of okay, whatever the thing is Like I'll sometimes do this whenever I have a deadline that I'm being a bitch about is I'll just message my mate Harry and say hey I'm going to bet this uncomfortable amount of money that I will do the thing.

Speaker 1 And as a result, I will do the thing.

Speaker 1 There's the scene in Fight Club where Tyler Durden goes into this random shop and he finds this Asian guy behind the counter, takes him outside, guns to his head, and says, Tell me what you want it to be, Raymond.

Speaker 1 Raymond. Raymond.

Speaker 1 And he's like

Speaker 1 shaking, unsure. And he goes, I want it to be a veterinarian.
And he goes,

Speaker 1 I'll come back here in 30 days. And if you're not a veterinarian, you'll be dead.
You can bet that he didn't have a 91% failure rate.

Speaker 1 So I think first off, questioning the question, which is pretty hardcore, but then the real softcore, nice thing that I would recommend is journaling.

Speaker 1 All of that is

Speaker 1 journaling.

Speaker 1 Don't bother with it. So this one is less about, it is essentially you don't appreciate writing a journal now, it's kind of like investing in the SP.

Speaker 1 You go, I could be doing all these activities, but a journal five years hence, the value of that is so significant.

Speaker 1 It's like even now, if I go on a flight and I can go through exactly how I thought 10 years ago or what I was doing, because you forget so much.

Speaker 1 And going back to your point earlier, it's just the same problems over and over again I had a friend of mine um who I think had his journal stolen and because he left it in his suitcase that got stolen I go how much was that worth to you he's like probably like 15% 15% or 20% of everything I have it's so valuable Jim O'Shaughnessy um who's one of the smartest guys I know older gentleman he's about it 60 and he was telling me about journals he has from when he was like 21 and the value that that has to him have I told you about this George I took a journal every day from the age of 13 to 19

Speaker 2 on a Microsoft word document and then one day i opened it file corrupted just like

Speaker 2 oh well did you never back it up no i was like well that's the end of that and just stopped not backing up that up is the least you thing ever or is that is that where it started this was when i was transitioning windows to mac so it was in that however I've still got the file, so I could maybe uncorrupt it.

Speaker 1 Now, with modern technology, would I be able to like whether it's you do this very well, you take a lot of photos, videos. I don't do that.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to do it more, but more photos, more videos, more journals, because the value of it is so significant. 10, 20.
So day one. Day one.
No.

Speaker 1 You can leave audio messages.

Speaker 1 You can photos, videos. She's big Apple notes for everything.

Speaker 1 One size.

Speaker 1 Apple notes. It's frictionless.
One size fits all. Should we do, what have you got left? Should we do one more round of life hacks? What have we got?

Speaker 2 I've got a lesson and a fail.

Speaker 1 Okay. I have a lesson.
Are we doing fails?

Speaker 1 We can do.

Speaker 1 Let's do another lesson and then we'll see where we come in at. Okay.
Have you got another lesson? Yeah. Beautiful.
So I'll take the potato. You're up, potato.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're potato and me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You looked at him, but you're not. It's all on you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Trying to

Speaker 1 find the micro plate equivalent in happiness. What's a micro plate? Micro plate.
It's a plate that's less than 2.5 kilos usually. So it's like half a kilo, 0.25 of a kilo.

Speaker 1 So in when I was doing powerlifting, you realize really quickly that like

Speaker 1 200 kilos, when that's your one rep max, that feels the same as 210, feels the same as 220. It's just always your one rep max.

Speaker 1 But what makes it engaging is the fact that it's slightly more than you did last week, last month, last year.

Speaker 1 And I think whenever you go like the steroids equivalent in anything, there's just always the debt to pay in hindsight.

Speaker 1 So in business, again, like most of our lessons are business-wise, we grew really fast and you're like, fantastic.

Speaker 1 We've like was really this really steady growth rate and then like 300%.

Speaker 1 And you think, phenomenal, like next, next thing, next thing. But actually, like going back, I'd have taken a way slower growth rate year in, year out, because the experience is way better.

Speaker 1 And finding the like,

Speaker 1 just take the PB, like just take the extra rep, just take the extra kilo week in, week out. Because

Speaker 1 for me, I think the only thing that matters. is the feeling that you're making some kind of progress.
Something's moving in the right direction. It doesn't actually matter what the absolute number is.

Speaker 1 And that's a re because now we're further on, it's harder to find the half a kilo than if we just thought, hang on a minute, this is growing way too quickly. Let's slow down.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to leapfrog ahead of you because it's my lesson

Speaker 1 and your podcast.

Speaker 1 True, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Trajectory is more important than position,

Speaker 1 which is a Jimmy Carrism.

Speaker 1 But that

Speaker 1 being number 300 in the world, but last year being 350, feels feels better than being number two in the world, but last year being number one

Speaker 1 because you're so tightly attuned to what is the direction that I'm on, not what is my absolute position. Happiness is relative, it's not absolute.
And

Speaker 1 yeah, I'd spoke to weirdly enough, got this theory co-signed by Dan Bilzerian before he went all anti-Semitic.

Speaker 1 Old Testament Dan. Old Testament Dan, that's what he calls himself.
Old T Dan.

Speaker 1 He, I basically said, like, he's sort of gone to the top of the hedonic mountain, so to speak.

Speaker 1 In some ways, do you wish that you'd

Speaker 1 dragged out that progress a little bit more? Because it would have allowed you to have had more places to go to.

Speaker 1 That basically, every new record you set, especially big step changes in terms of success, is just a new higher bar for you to now.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 what you would say, success isn't more

Speaker 1 Success isn't a better vantage point to have a view from. It's a higher point to fall from.

Speaker 1 And it becomes increasingly difficult to get those, you know, to improve your lifts when you're first going to the gym by 5% is maybe 5 kilos.

Speaker 1 But after a couple of years in the gym, it's a significantly larger amount, it's a significantly higher level of pressure. So yeah, trajectory more important than position.

Speaker 2 So Chris Sparksism as well, direction over speed.

Speaker 1 How is that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know whether that's quite the same.

Speaker 2 Trajectory over position.

Speaker 1 Trajectory is more important than position in that your growth is more important than your absolute location within.

Speaker 1 So going from a 220 deadlift to a 225 deadlift versus a 395 to a 400 kilo deadlift, it feels the same. As opposed to way harder to operate at the higher level.

Speaker 1 As opposed to like, I want to get stronger. And also the 400.
So James Smith says all wins feel the same. Yeah.
But there's no Uber surcharge for going 395 to 400 versus going 210 to 250.

Speaker 1 Any revenue level, any bank account number, it's all dopamine.

Speaker 2 It's dopamine, isn't it?

Speaker 1 So the problem is, are you suggesting that you purposefully throttle

Speaker 1 how?

Speaker 1 It's difficult, but like anytime you notice yourself progressing in something, just

Speaker 1 accept the slower rate because everyone's always trying to make things faster. They're always trying to get leaner quicker, get bigger quicker, make more money faster.
Like that's the world, right?

Speaker 1 But just look for, accept the smaller rate of growth or the smaller rate of progress. How do you, to Chris's point, how do you do that now?

Speaker 1 Are you intentional of go, okay, I want 15% this year and then I'm capping

Speaker 1 aim for a steady improvement in something rather than going for big targets. Obviously, it's I don't have all of the answers, Jordan.
Sorry. Existentially very difficult.
But like as a concept,

Speaker 1 because you would take, if I offered you 200% growth in something, you would probably, your immediate response would be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 In business, like Gino Wickman talks about having growth phases and then consolidation phases, where rather than just like, because if you spam the growth and scale, you're going to end up with like on rickety foundations.

Speaker 2 Whereas if you take some time and you go, actually, I'm just going to like focus on internal growth for a while and like solidify the foundations before the next sprint.

Speaker 2 You're going to create a more sustainable

Speaker 1 you always have to pay the debt off, don't you? Yeah, always.

Speaker 1 Good insight, nice. Seth.

Speaker 2 Have you ever had a chat with someone who says that they want a goal and then you start giving them solutions and they'll keep coming up with rotating reasons and excuses for not doing it?

Speaker 2 So, this is, I think, a navalism. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If information was all that was needed, we would all be billionaires billionaires with perfect abs.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 something I've really learned over the last couple of years is there is somebody's actual goal and then there is the story that they tell themselves about what they think their goal is.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 often it's not the same. Someone's actions versus their words.
So George got me a book a few years ago called The Courage to be Disliked. And it's basically a summary written by Parable about Adler

Speaker 2 versus Freud. So Adler was one of Freud's contemporaries and he's kind of the lesser known you know Freud-Jung Adler like those kind of original psychologists.

Speaker 2 His view is the teleological view rather than the etiological view. So Freud's view is something happened to me when I was a child and it's caused me to behave like this.

Speaker 2 So past event produces current behavior.

Speaker 2 Adler is the teleological view which is future goal impacts current behavior. So the example given is somebody

Speaker 2 is always getting rejected by people and they've made themselves repulsive to other people so that they can tell themselves the story that, oh, no one likes me and everyone finds me whatever.

Speaker 2 But the goal baked into that, the hidden payoff of that belief is that it keeps them safe because they can reject themselves before. other people can reject them.

Speaker 2 So they construct a certain identity that allows them to fulfill that goal and meet the payoff.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we run a program to help people grow their business in a specific niche. But quite often you'll see that

Speaker 2 the more barriers and the more guardrails you put up to make failure absolutely impossible,

Speaker 2 what's happening is you're kind of backing someone into a corner where it's like you're removing the technological friction, you're removing the blueprint friction, you're removing the what to do and how to do it and the process until suddenly there's nothing left but you as the bottleneck.

Speaker 2 And so, you mentioned this with GPT, I'm glad you did, which is that now, like, we have infinite access to the best computational models working at like super PhD level and

Speaker 2 all information at our fingertips. And people haven't suddenly become infinitely more productive.

Speaker 2 All it's done is like take away another excuse and another objection to the point where you're like, oh, like now it really is just me. And so

Speaker 2 someone's willingness to actually show up and do the thing is still always going to be the

Speaker 2 final frontier.

Speaker 1 How would you summarize that lesson overall?

Speaker 2 What people tell themselves the goal is, isn't always the goal. So look at actions versus behavior and don't think that you just have an information bottleneck and

Speaker 2 that'll solve everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess it's weird to think, how can you say that you value a thing if your actions show no indication? Yeah, actions versus words. In that way.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 look at your calendar to find your priorities yeah it's all shit that we learned fucking 10 years ago 10 years ago yeah that now you're like oh yeah gee lessons or life hack or lesson please okay um have we got more after this or is this the final one last one okay cool i'll try and get through as much as i can so

Speaker 1 first one um is

Speaker 1 going back to uh old testament for a second is um this the socratic method so one thing i would do what do you mean by that George? There we go. Meta about meth.

Speaker 1 What do you mean by truth? What do you mean by Socrates? What do you mean exactly?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 one thing that I would typically do,

Speaker 1 being an idiot, is whenever somebody would say something I disagree with, I would just stop listening to what they're saying and then just start processing the dunk I'm about to do in my head.

Speaker 1 And then as soon as they stop talking, I'm dunking, but I'm noticing they're just doing the same thing.

Speaker 1 So now just rather than disagreeing with people, just asking questions.

Speaker 1 And not only do you actually not necessarily ruin relationships or have emotional issues with other people, you actually also sometimes change their mind quite a lot as well.

Speaker 1 So like one example, I was in the car and I was with a friend of mine and he was telling me about how

Speaker 1 He has his current job and he would like to work remote, but there's not that many remote jobs out there. So my immediate like dunk-kong brain goes, hold on.
I hire people in these roles all the time.

Speaker 1 I can pull up these numbers. What are you on about? I was like, okay.
I was like, hmm. So I was like, here's a question.

Speaker 1 How many kind of in-person jobs do you think there are in your town? He's like, I don't know. If you just had to guess, it's like, I don't know, 10,000.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 And then how many remote jobs do you think there are in the world?

Speaker 1 And he just paused for a bit and he goes, yeah, you might be right.

Speaker 1 Versus if I would have tried,

Speaker 1 letting them come write the code in their own head and being a

Speaker 1 Socrates calls it being a midwife. You're helping them give birth to the new idea rather than trying to push it into them is a

Speaker 1 big thing. And then the other one,

Speaker 1 so I've been quite fascinated by doom loops this year. So a doom loop would be, I'm feeling anxiety.
Fuck, why am I being anxious?

Speaker 1 Fuck, why are you criticizing yourself for being anxious? And it's just anxiety. You get anxious about your anxiety, which leads to more anxiety, and it's boom, boom, boom.
Or why am I so depressed?

Speaker 1 And so you have the initial stimuli that's kind of, you don't really control, and then it's your reaction to that.

Speaker 1 And getting a little bit deeper into meditation this year, there were two things that I found useful. One is to,

Speaker 1 I caught the Pilkington fork. So Carl Pilkington,

Speaker 1 who the philosopher Kay Pilkington once said,

Speaker 1 he's telling a story to Gervais

Speaker 1 about when he got mugged in the center of town. Some guys came over to him and like, give me a phone.
And usually there's two ways you react to that. It's like punching them or it's like running away.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure, sure. And he goes, but I love this phone.
He goes, it's my favorite thing. And he starts like being very strange.
He goes, how are you, by the way? He goes, we've met before.

Speaker 1 And just like completely freaks them out that he doesn't know how to react the mugger and he just walks away. So using that on my own brain.
So if I get super, if I get, well, there's a few things.

Speaker 1 One, asking my brain, what's the next thought you're going to have?

Speaker 1 And it just stops. And then sometimes a random thing will appear.
And then you go, well, was that me? Because I didn't try and bring that up.

Speaker 1 So you have this natural detachment, as well as when I hear

Speaker 1 anxiety.

Speaker 1 So let's say I'm anxious about an event I've got going up. And then I'll start going, fuck, am I being anxious? And I go, I get it.
I get why you're anxious.

Speaker 1 And it all of a sudden, because you've not had the cortisol reaction to the cortisol, it kind of, the Pilkington fork occurs and you break out. So those are uh those are my two ones.
Awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I called them second-order emotions. Oh, I like that.
Uh, that like infinite regress of resentment at your frustration, about your bitterness, about your anxiety. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Final one, because we did it. Um, you guys might like this from a business perspective.

Speaker 1 My friend Harry Dry, phenomenal human being, he gave me this nugget, which is positioning is arranging information in the customer's head.

Speaker 1 So I do it again. Positioning is a range.
I'm arranging. You see, I'm arranging

Speaker 1 meta again, right?

Speaker 1 Positioning is arranging information in the customer's head. So example would be loom used to be

Speaker 1 record your screen save, record your screen. Whereas then they didn't change the product.
They just changed the...

Speaker 1 positioning how it was structured in the customer's head to removing meetings and it explodes and separated from the rest of the competition and then i thought okay frame is how you arrange information in your own head And frame itself is positioning is completely underlooked.

Speaker 1 And frame is completely underlooked as well.

Speaker 1 That was brilliant. Cheers, mate.
You're on fire, man. I feel like the information's been arranged differently in my head.
I think

Speaker 1 we've got so much energy. We need to go to the local M ⁇ S and just throw stones at people.

Speaker 1 I actually, that was exactly what was next. It's that and then chicken.
Boys, I love you all. I appreciate you too.
Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 I'm sad that we don't get to spend as much time together as we used to. You said we've got to fail.
No fails.

Speaker 1 Why don't we save them for next year? Save a fail for next year. We can keep everyone coming back.
But no, I really do. I'm so happy and so proud of what all of you have done.
It's fucking fire.

Speaker 1 It's great. I'm very glad that you're in my life, even though we're apart from each other.

Speaker 2 100%. What a year it's been as well.
What a year.

Speaker 1 Fire. Ladies and gentlemen, Merry Christmas.
I'll see you next time.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 should we peak state? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I actually can't raise my hands, but.

Speaker 1 Credit. Very salty.
Are you going to take us through this? This isn't my thing, this is yours.

Speaker 1 Okay. And arms overhead.