December Bonus Episode: Secrets of the S.K. Pierce Mansion with Special Guests Sam & Colby

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Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash. I'm Elena.
I'm Sam. I'm Colby.
And this is Morbid.

I feel so weird when I look at the camera. I'm like, hello.
I know. I'm like, hey.
Hi. Thanks for having us on again.

We're stoked to be back.

It's been so long since we recorded that episode.

If you're watching, it has been a very long time for you. So here we are.
We can officially announce that we did a haunted investigation. Let's go.

Another one. It was so fun.
Another one. Another one.
It was so fun. Yeah.

Completely unlike anything we've ever done before on our channel, too. Yeah.
So you guys got a whole different experience.

I know that was such an honor when we actually sat down and you were like, okay, so this is what we're doing and we've never done it before. I was like, okay.

Our first investigation with you guys at the U.S. Asylum was a very traditional thing and a lot of crazy stuff happened.
Yes. But this time it was like, yeah, very, very different.

Like we were even kind of thrown off. Like, bro, whoa.
We don't even know how to do this. Brand new concepts.
Yeah.

So we went to the SK Pierce mansion and basically your whole, you know, like vibe for the night was testing psychics. Yeah, that's correct.
So how do you know these psychics?

Like tell us a little bit about the psychics, the whole shebang. There were three of them.

Yeah, there are three of them. So our whole goal of this year of 2025 was to try to kind of push the bar with ghost hunting.
We've done a lot of the same type of investigations. It was really fun.

Like there's a lot of different stories. But we're like, what if there's just different ways to get answers? And especially in places like that have unsolved mysteries.

You know, you guys dive into that all the time.

And, like, you know, there's ways to get answers on ghost equipment, but what if we could use psychics and mediums as our quote-unquote ghost equipment or tools to the other side?

And so, when we were brainstorming, we're like, what would be that would be really cool to bring a psychic?

You know what would be even cooler if we had three different psychics that use three different methods of communication. We see which one works best.

And then, also, what if all three of their answers line up? Wouldn't that collaboration like make it so much more believable? What if we did get an answer? Which is kind of what happened. Wow.
Yeah.

And it was absolutely mind-blowing. I didn't expect that.

Yeah, we wanted to basically like run an experiment where we had like each one of these individual psychics come in without the other ones around. And then so they weren't influenced by each other.

And so what we did is we actually, this sounds really bad. We actually like blindfolded all the psychics.
And they had no idea like where where they were at all.

And we had like one producer on this trip that was helping us out with like transporting them like to and from the haunted location.

But yeah, they had zero idea besides like obviously the hotel that they were in. They kind of knew like the area of like the state that we were in, but that's about it.

Um, and then at the way end of the investigation, the end of the video, we had all of them come together for one final investigation to see if like they were going to maybe contradict each other or like fight for whose like opinion was right or maybe all agree we didn't know so it's just a massive yeah seriously i was hoping for that to be honest oh he's like fight fight fight it was just a massive experiment we were just like really curious about and thought it was a cool concept yeah it really is it was so much fun yeah and also we're gonna say this like a million times during this but go watch the video because yeah you've got to watch the video to watch it on sam and colby's page it is thank you crazy when we say it was unlike anything we've ever experienced before i was because we were sitting at the longhorn steakhouse

and you guys were like asking us, like, what are your thoughts on mediums? Do you believe? Are you skeptical? I mostly believe. Yeah.
And you were super, like, pretty skeptical. Yeah.

I'm, I'm one of those people that believes like most of them are probably lying

and just trying to get money or like, you know, whatever from it. But I think they exist.
And I think there are some that are real, especially like mediums. I'm more.

apt to believe i think i don't know why

so i went into this like totally thing i was like three i feel like three we're going to get like a sea role that works. Yeah.
And we were shocked. We kind of believe the same thing.

Like both Sam and I kind of believe like 85, 90% of psychics are all fake, just doing it for the money. So yeah, we like specifically chose the three psychics that you guys met for a reason.

The first one was Patty Negri.

She's actually been in the paranormal field for years and she has experienced sensing ghosts like specifically through like her hands is what we researched which is why when we were walking around she had her hands out a lot she did yeah since childhood and she's been on every single tv show you can even think of so she's very very credible we were like okay we got it we got to test her she's yeah been around um and then there was a guy named mystic dylan mystic dylan five ever yeah yes i love mystic dylan

insane he's been going so viral recently just because he does a special technique called cleromancy um which is like throwing objects he specifically uses animal bones and like other like totems, I think he's what he called him.

Yeah. And he's able to like throw these bones onto a table or onto the floor.
And then depending on how they fall onto like this mat that he had, he's able to read.

what's going on in the room and what happened in the past or the future. I'm not going to lie, when you told us that at dinner, I was like, I don't know how that's going to work.

I am not sure about that one at all. I'm chilling into that one very soon.
I'm like, as a non-skeptic, I might be a little skeptical about that.

That one is by far the one i was just like there is no way yeah this works at all but i feel like out of all of the different methods that was the most mind-blowing absolutely it was yeah which we'll get into but that was like 100 cool yeah crazy accurate nuts and then the last was our good friend her name is pithian priestess she's her name's ashley

but uh yeah

she's been like our personal not personal but like she's helped us personally as like our spirit guide for the last like two three years and her expertise at least what we found is like tarot

definitely oh my god

and so she we wanted to bring her last so that it was a familiar face to the channel and that she could help us solve this like mystery once and for all and she did it she was incredible and she just jumped right into it was like okay where are we going let's go boom

it was wild and that was a little like interesting too is because we told them absolutely nothing and like they literally took off their blindfold as they were walking up to the sk pierce mansion it was kind of just like uh all right, we want to see what you guys get.

And we didn't tell them any information. You know, we just kind of like had them go find a room, find like the areas that they felt the most activity and just like went for it.

After they would get something, we would tell them a yes or no that kind of lines up with the research or not. But it was really interesting to see like from scratch, like literal nothing, like.

blindfold off they're already feeling and and sensing the things that lined up with the history of the location you guys have been to the location at a ghost stand before too. Yeah.

We had gone with Sabrina Curran and Payne Lindsay. Yeah.
And we, and it, I, like, these psychics came from like all over. Yeah.
They weren't like Massachusetts based.

And even if they were, I didn't know about this Cape Harris mansion until Ash covered it on. one of our episodes.
I'd never heard of it. And I've lived here my entire life.
And I hadn't heard of it.

And so I think I like googled like most haunted places in Massachusetts and it popped up on a list. It's not something you would just know.

And here, like, it's not like the Lizzie Borden house, but like it's pretty well known. Or like the worst house.

Yeah, like I felt like, so them, all of them were like, yeah,

I don't know what this house is. And I was like, I fully believe that.
Yeah, I wouldn't have known what this house is. And even if you did, like, we've gone to this mansion before.
You guys have too.

And to recall all the different nuances of the family history and everything would be impossible. Like, we, we didn't even know.
We had to restudy for all this.

And so the fact that they were picking out things that were like so detailed. Yeah.
And it lined up perfectly was just really mind-blowing.

Yeah, it it was nuts also for like the skeptics out there like yeah you could say like they knew what hotel we were staying at so they can go on their Google Maps and like search up haunted places and make like an educated guess and like study or whatever but then how did the methods that they were doing line up with everything in the story that's the thing because the tools like Patty's like the queen of like dowsing rods you guys were saying yeah and like her tools are making sense with Dylan his bones like there was no way he could have thrown them into a perfect alignment for what had happened there yeah because even we could see yeah the story that he that they were showing that was the thing that i loved the most that like he wasn't making up like what these symbols meant like they made sense for what they meant and then they would fall in a way that i was like oh yeah that does say that like you could confirm it yourself like he couldn't have faked that and then with tarot even like with ashley the things that were popping up i know a little bit bit of tarot so i was like oh yeah like that does make sense and we saw her like shuffling the cards every time like she was not picking them you know right

crazy it was pretty insane so yeah like the whole premise of the video was hey this place is really haunted so we obviously want like you know just ghost hunt in general but our main goal was to figure out this unsolved murder now there was this bone that was found in the basement of the sk pierce mansion house and they think that it was from a 16 year old girl.

It was like a pelvic bone, but they have no idea who that person was and the killer.

Now, the people that have been investigating for a long time have their thoughts on who they think it could have been, but nothing has ever been confirmed. And so we're like, okay,

what better to do than get all the psychics to figure out their answer? And if all those things line up, that is really insane because we were not telling.

all the information that we got from the previous psychic to the next psychic. We were independently finding these answers.

And we were the ones that were like, you know, corroborating with all that stuff.

Yeah, I kind of feel bad because it kind of felt like, I don't know if you guys got the same vibe, but it kind of felt like each psychic would come in and then we were just like, go! Yeah, do it. Go.

They did. That's the thing.
Like, when you say it, like, you feel bad, but they just got right to it. Yeah.
You know, because like Patty walked in and we were just like, where do you want to go?

She was just like, she just led us somewhere. On the spot.
Yeah. Well, she got hit with like a wave when we, like, when she first walked in, she literally did like this.
Yeah, she did like.

Yeah. What was funny about Patty's investigation was: I feel like almost immediately everything started pointing to you, Elena.
Yeah, it was like, okay, get called out, yeah, right off the bat.

I was like, great.

And it was saying, like, Patty kept hearing like, Wanta, Wanda, or like something like that. And I was like, is it like Wanta? Like, I lost

what is happening. And I kind of think it was actually.

Well, I think one of the main things that we like understood about that was they found some sort of correlation with how you looked versus the you know supposed like wife first wife of SK and when later on like we didn't even know this at the time like later on we went and talked to the caretaker and she was like oh yeah yeah the first wife of SK had red hair Yeah, and we're like

and she like specifically brought that up She was like he likes your hair Yeah, they kept saying that. So when the caretakers confirmed it, I was like whoa and we didn't tell the caretakers anything.

We were just like, oh, hey, like, what color hair did SK? We said, what did she look like?

or we said do you have pictures and she was like oh we don't have pictures but like show that she had red hair

like oh and what's crazy about that too is like sk remarried pretty shortly after like his first wife susan passed away um to a much younger wife like 30 years younger yeah he was getting it ellen

and so yeah it's it's rumored that sk like did that for potentially the wrong reasons and that's why he might have been drawn to you as a redhead because he you like reminded him of his first wife.

It's crazy. It's so creepy.
And he likes the younger gals. Yeah.
And you're just a couple hundred years younger. Just a couple hundred younger, you know.

You're worried about it. I mean, you seem to be targeted like almost the entire night.
Yeah, you really were.

I thought it was when Patty did it. I was like, okay, like, this is funny.
And then afterwards, I was like, that's not going to happen again.

Like, I thought that was just a Patty thing and maybe that would just be. the end of it.
I was like, the other ones aren't going to confirm that. And then it just kept.

One of them did. I was like, I was like, is this real? Like, what is going on? Even to the point of like, at the end of the night, like when we were sitting in the basement, you got

touched, right? Yeah. So we were, this was with Ashley

in the basement, and we were sitting in a circle and she was doing the tarot. And I had my jacket on, like my leather jacket.
And I, I was just like paying attention to what she was doing.

And it's felt suddenly like someone like grabbed my shoulder.

You're kind of explaining that it wasn't just a tap or a pull. It was a

grab. Yeah, like a firm grab.
And I've never, ever, ever felt anything like that. Like, I haven't been poked.
I haven't had any of that stuff happen.

When you had such a visceral reaction, like you jumped and you went into like pipe mode. Google.

Immediately, I'm like, I'm ready to punch it. Yeah.
Because it was not like a brush or anything like that you could be like, oh, maybe like my hair or something brushed against. It was like.

ball on like something did this to my shoulder like a crazy well in that moment ashley so casually was like well it's because you look like her yeah and she was saying like, you bunch like the girl who we believe was killed in the house or near the house.

I was like, damn. And she said it so casually.
She was like, oh, yeah. Well, like, you look like her.
Yeah, that was scary. And once again, we didn't tell Ashley what we had found previously.

So she was just coming up with that on her own accord. Yeah.
And she just, it was so spooky when she, she just turned and looked at me and was like, because you look like her. I was like, oh,

yeah.

It was wild. And I think Dylan had already said something to that effect, too.
He later, he was like, he was like, I knew she had red hair. I said that.

Like, he was like, I was going to say that earlier. So, yeah, it came to him too.
Yeah.

I'm trying to think, just so we can go chronologically, like more of the things that Patty had said while we were there.

Well, she, we initially got that we were talking to SK. So I think that's where we first got.

You felt like we weren't, though. So that's the thing.

When we got down to the basement and we kind of started to learn like more about the family dynamic and that kind kind of thing i feel like whoever we were talking to like whoever was you know like doing the dowsing rods with patty i think they were pretending to be sk because it felt a little

the more it kept pointing at you like it felt creepier and sk didn't seem to have like a super like nefarious spirit like he seemed pretty chill yeah and it didn't really sound like he was involved in the murder or anything like that so i was like Could it have been like Frank?

Because he liked how you looked?

And then like, I hate that a lot. Do you know what I mean though?

I would have rather SK. I just feel like SK wouldn't have been as creepy.
Yeah. For a little backstory, like the Pierce family, like SK was the guy that built the house.

He had two different wives, and he built the house for the first wife, but she died immediately and they moved in. And so he had one, one oldest son.
with the first wife and then two more sons.

And so the three sons were

most likely the three suspects of the person that would like have killed somebody in the house because the family lineage still owned the SK mansion while this murder occurred.

And yeah, so there apparently was a female that was not in the family that was found in the basement buried under like a kiln or a furnace or something like that.

So basically we're like the whole the whole gist of it was which family member and why would they kill this random person and what's the relation to the family.

Yeah, and they were stepbrothers too, like you were saying. Like the The first wife had just the oldest son, but then he remarried and it was the other two.

And so there was already kind of some conflict when Ellen died. Everybody had to figure out who gets the mansion.

And so obviously Frank being the oldest son is just like, it shouldn't be me. It should be me, but Stuart and Edward, Edward's the youngest, also were fighting over it.
But Edward ended up.

being the one who who got it.

And not to make things more confusing, but after he like acquired it, I guess, like in the early 1900s, like 1902, specifically, it turned into like a boarding home to where now not just its family history is there, but now there's a bunch of random people just using this house.

Debauchery. Yeah.
Debauchery.

From random things. Family, whatever.
Yep. Yeah.
All the things. All the things.
Yeah.

So I think what's so interesting is how complex that lineage is and everything like that, like how many family members are a part of it versus not, versus how many wives, all these different things.

It just makes it so much more impressive how accurate all these readings were from the psychics like talking about sk and all this stuff is really really interesting but then uh one other aspect which i think we were getting at is it's said that like 17 spirits are haunting this house yeah but a lot of people believe that there is some sort of non-human spirit in the basement which could be like you said, maybe tricking people and saying I am SK and stuff like that, which

obviously just throws a wrench and everything. Yeah.
Well, then Patty was saying too, like, there's a, what was she calling him? Like creeper. Creeper.

She's saying there's a creeper and like he keeps like poking his head out and then like fall, but he's following us, but he doesn't want us to know. So that threw me for a loop too.

I was like, I don't know. I just, my like intuition is saying like it was an SK that was victimizing you.
Damn.

You know? Which is crazy because if it was the murderer who was like victimizing, that's so like

messed up.

Because he did, he told us he was just like like if it was him he was just like it's somebody in the family but i can't tell you who right yeah which would make sense because he wouldn't want to rat himself because he's not exactly it and he's like right maybe sk like he probably knows in the afterlife but he wasn't alive whenever this happened so yeah correct yeah exactly which is interesting which means do you think the creeper that patty saw was this negative entity instead of the murderer it was just like a a negative well i think she was saying that he was a human spirit and he was just like lingering around around to see if we're gonna figure it out yeah i think she was saying it was one of the stepbrothers interesting but so do you feel like it was frank like trying to see if we were gonna figure it out could have been yeah or it was frank was the one answering and the creeper was like edward or stuart yeah i hope it was stuart yeah stuart doesn't get talked about so handsome

that was edward no that was stuart she said oh i thought she said edward yeah she said that was stuart oh okay yeah the little picture that we saw yeah i was like oh my god look at this man yeah

whoever that was was adorable adorable. I could see him just peeking around.

Yeah. Being like, hey, my brother was such an asshole.
Figure it out. Sorry, you know, being a creep.
Yeah.

Yeah. I think it was really, really cool to see what pieces of the puzzle we were able to find out through all different psychics.
Yeah.

And I think the main thing we figured out with

Patty was this idea of protecting the secret, which I think became a huge core like storyline for the entire thing is like they would not give up this secret because they were afraid of their image.

Yeah, image came up so much. Patty kept saying that specific word.
And it went through the rest of the psychics too. They kept saying the image.

Yeah, they were like, okay, we have this like really high-end family and we are the kings of the town. We have this big business.
We want to seem like we have everything figured out.

And if we had this like turmoil with our family and like some of our like, you know, sons are bad apples, that's bad. Yeah.

And so it's like, yes, like I'll give you enough that it was in the family, but I don't want to talk about who who it was or how it went down because I didn't want to sacrifice this like, you know, image they had.

Yeah. Right, right.
It's so true. Which is really, really interesting.
And then what's wild too, like, kind of like a side note from like that sort of plot.

So we went upstairs and you guys had been to the SKA Pierce Mansion before and in a specific room there was something dramatic happen where she Patty was like, there's definitely a portal in here.

Yeah. And we had already been told there's a portal in there.
Yeah. So that's on the third floor.
Right. It's on the third floor and it was the game room.
Yep, the billiards room.

And it's where they used to like, you know, debauchery. Yeah, the guys would have like, or I thought it was

exactly. Dylan kept bringing up gambling.
Yeah, that used to happen in there. And that was billiard room, game room.
Yeah. A big thing in there.
Yeah.

And there's like a big walk-in closet in that room. And there's like stories that like really bad things used to happen in that closet, especially with like women that they would bring into the house.

Yeah, because women weren't allowed in the room unless they were brought into the room. So that tells you everything.
They weren't there by their own consent. Right.

And when we went the last time, we walked into that room and immediately were like,

all of us felt off. This is off.
And then we went in.

I think I didn't go in the club. You didn't go in.
I went in. I think Payne went in.
I think Sabrina went in. I think Sabrina went in and all of us were like, like, this feels yucky in here.

I was like, I don't want to be in here at all. Like, why do you guys felt like suffocated? Like, you felt like short of breath.
Yeah, we were all feeling really gross about it.

And I think later we came back to it and it was still like something was off. I think we had like, um, something was happening with our light.
Remember the camera was like, oh, yeah.

Making something happen. Yeah, it was something like pain was looking and there was like a white like grid just light.
Yeah, it was weird.

Yeah, it was very strange and it was only happening in certain places.

And so when we came in here with Patty, immediately her saying like, there's a portal in here, we were like, yeah.

And then she starts saying like, there's good, like good energy and bad or like it feels good, but it feels bad at the same time, which like makes so much sense.

Because there was so much celebration in the world. There's so many men having so many pleasurable experiences in there, but there's a lot of women who are having terrible experiences in there.

So it's like, when she said that, I was like, that's literally what happened. It was a balance.
It was like.

every bit 50-50. And I think all three of them said something about cigars.
And I think SK was like big on cigars because they're throughout the house. But specifically, they were smoked in that room.

Yeah, that was interesting. All three of the psychics said, like, I smell cigar smoker.
I feel cigar, like, cigar business. I feel cigar vibes.
Cigar.

Yeah. I remember specifically, too, like Patty, maybe it wasn't on the third floor.
Could be wrong, but like the second floor, she kept being like, it's like hard to

breathe. I'm like, I just want to like speak, but it sounds like I'm being like silenced or whatever.
It feels like I'm being silenced. And so I wonder if that was like...

her like feeling the women who wanted to speak up back in the day. Yeah, probably because it seems like it was a theme in that house that especially women were silenced.
Yeah.

Or like we got with Patty like controlled. Yes.
We went up to the third floor. We went into the quote-unquote servants room.
And she got a lot of like, oh, I feel like people were silenced.

People were controlled in this room. Yeah.
They were doing things against their will.

She even brought up like possible like drugged or something like that. Like that kind of feeling.
Yeah, she said like feeling like I'm in an altered state, but like it wasn't my decision.

I think she said. Yeah, which is really creepy.
That was terrifying. And that was where, because that's supposedly where like the 16-year-old girl was staying.
And I think another girl, right?

Yeah, I think there was two maids, right? Yeah. That lived in that room.

Susan and Sarah, I believe. And Susan was the 16-year-old girl who was also like a prime suspect or victim.
Yeah,

she might be the pelvic bone. Yeah, the pelvic bone.
Yeah.

And when we were in there with Patty and she was using the dowsing rods, they like flicked over to you really fast. Yeah.

That was the weirdest experience, like one of the weirdest experiences i've had because i think when we walked in there she was talking about like feeling pressure in her head and as she was saying it i felt it but i was like maybe this is like a placebo effect effect like i think i'm just feeling pressure yeah and then she was trying to talk to whoever was in there and we felt like it was like a young person and i like i love kids and i i think the last time we were on the uss salem like i got followed by

i don't know like i'll just say something in my head i was like like you're safe here with us and um the dowsing rods flicked to me in that moment and she said would she say like she just grabbed on to you or like she just over jumped over to you and it was like they flicked at me right as i thought that in my head and she said it yeah and then she was trying to get more information and i said something else in my head and she said like she grabbed on tighter or like something like that yeah

multiple times yeah yeah where you're like you're gonna be all right and i think the second time is like i got you yeah right after you said i got you like flicked over and i was like oh they're over with you now yeah it was really interesting it was weird because i didn't like feel anything on my body or anything like that but having the confirmation of the dowsing rods like flick at me that was yeah because how could she have known that yeah

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my favorite part of the whole patty investigation was the machine you know the ma chant was i felt bad because i was like i'm taking it seriously but it just sounded so silly that i'm cracking up on camera

i think that's like kind of the point it's like you're putting so much energy that it is kind of like lightning yeah you're like releasing all the basically we were screaming for like two minutes

Whoever was downstairs was probably like, what the hell? They were like, we heard you guys screaming up there.

That was insane. I've never done anything like that.
That was cool. It definitely brought up the energy for sure.
Yeah. And she said that it will like bring more spirits out.

And it definitely felt like it did. Because in the beginning, it felt like we were kind of only talking to SK maybe.
And then the girl in that room.

But then when the rest of the psychics came in, we definitely got more, I felt like. Yeah.

For sure. Because we heard some like weird noises, like shuffling noises happening.
We were trying to follow it, but we didn't find where it was happening.

Which, yeah, full disclosure, like there was a guide downstairs.

For the first half, yeah, for the first half, then she left like during Mystic Dylan. Yeah.

But also, our producer was bringing the psychics there and back. So like we were a little confused at the beginning if like it was that person or not, the guide.

But after Dylan left, the noises, I feel like they just stopped. They were going.
Yeah. Yeah.

Particularly when we were in the fire room, I think. Yeah.
We were like really going. And you had texted your producer and you were like, was that you?

And some of it was, but not all of it, you said, right? Yeah, he just said, like, oh, the owners were just leaving. Like, it should be quiet now.

But we heard more. Yes, there was more like right after that.
For a long

period of time, because every single time we try to start talking,

it was every time Dylan would try to speak that all of a sudden it would sound like craziness was happening. Let's talk about Dylan.
Yeah, we got to move to Dylan.

First of all, the second he walked in, you and I, I think, like, shared a telekinesis. We were both like, I love him.
Yeah. Like, as soon as he walked in, I was like, new best friend on law.

Love him a lot. Yeah, his look and his demeanor was awesome.
Oh, he's so charming. I love him.

So apparently, he had studied a specific version of Claramancy and like medium ship in Egypt. And New Orleans, too.
And New Orleans, voodoo, and all that stuff. Santeria, right?

Yeah. It was, it was really interesting.
Something we had never even heard of before. Yeah.
Much less like, you know, what are we going to, going to, if we're going to believe it or not.

And to be quite honest, I was highly skeptical just as we were talking about this. When we first

talked about this with our

creative team, like, hmm, is this even a good idea? Like, I don't know if it's genuinely possible at all for this to work.

But they assured us that like the reason why Mystic Dylan is blowing up is because his readings are so incredibly accurate. And we're like, all right, well, let's give it a try.
Let's do it.

The whole point of this video is to test the psychic so like why not let's see it and so we immediately go upstairs to the wife's room the second wife's room ellen um and they called it the red room because all of the wallpaper was red and he was like hmm let's immediately do a session right here on on her bed and that i think was the highlight of oh yeah for sure i agree the first time he tossed everything i was like whoa

no expectation at all like what's gonna happen He basically got all these bones and totems in

a shell array.

I don't know. And then threw them onto the bed, onto this map.
And within this one toss, he basically explained everything to a T about the story of the SK Pierce Man.

Yeah, the pelvis bone that he, which he had a pelvic bone first of all, was nuts. Like an animal pelvic bone.
An animal one, yeah. And it went right into the center.

So it was like the center of our story.

I was like, I just remember like slowly backing up and just being like,

this can't be real. And he even had like a totem that had like, you know, playing card symbols on it that were like the gambling things.
He had like a bunch of like little penis totems. Yeah,

he was like, something about this murder has to do with sex or something like that.

And then there was even like a frog on its back. And he said like the frog represented fertility, but because it was on its back, it was like,

like, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Something to do with fertility stuff.
Yeah. That was my favorite part of the entire night because I was just watching like all of our faces.
And like, I'm like hidden in a hoodie.

Like, I look over at you two and you're both just like backing away like mind blown. And like, Dylan has no idea

that we're freaking out so much. He's just like, yeah, no.
Cause again, like. It's not like he's just like pulling this out of nowhere.
Like he's, he's reading what he threw out. Yeah.

And so he's just like, well, this looks like this. And we're just all reacting.
Like, God dreams. He's trying not to confirm.

There's a lot of, uh this is like a family house with like a lot of spirits that are in the family here, but there was a murder of someone outside the family you see over here.

And it seems like there was, oh, the dice says two. There's two wives, and one was much younger than the other one.
And we're like, what?

What?

Come on right now. I can't believe this.
It's like the dice. Like, how do you throw a two? Yeah,

and then be like, yeah, it was two wives. Yeah, like two wives.

He said one was more like a matronly energy, like older. Yes.

And then the other one's like more energetic and more like, and he's like youthful

age. And we were like, oh,

he's like, and then like off to the corner over here, it says like, there's one thing about this house that is like a message that isn't uncovered yet.

Yeah. He was like, it's like a mystery.
And we were like, that's exactly what we're doing. Like, what is this?

At this point, we had not told him anything. And so it's just like, okay, on your very first throw, you just get all the history right.
All All right, cool.

Oh,

let's see what happens. And he's like, smelling of like smoke.
And he's like, huh, I don't know. What, what is that smell of perfume and smoke or whatever? And Colby's like, oh, let's go with this.

Let's go to the room. Let's just, I don't know, do another, another reading.

And immediately his like first throw was on like the same mat, but he put out some cards with symbols. And like this promise ring was landed right on a fire.

And what's crazy is in that specific room, out of all of the different things and deaths that happened, that was the only room that someone died because of a fire. Yep.
He did not know this.

We didn't tell him that, anything. And it literally had a symbol of a guy who died that was not part of the family

from a fire.

And it was like,

whoa, wait, what am I looking at right now?

How is this possible? Which, to your point, like, it's kind of hard to describe this mat, but there was basically a circle and then like a bunch of what little symbols on it, right? Yeah.

And then, so when he threw all the bones, like most of them, like basically 95% of them went into like the center of the circle, but then only the ones you were talking about, like this totem pole sort of looking symbol thing, and then like a skeleton, then like a promise ring, and then like a card that had fire on it.

Yeah. Like, which was basically just saying, like, hey, it's not part of this story that you guys are looking to find out, but something that's literally on the outside.
And then we realized that in

the time that it was a a boarding house, that there was a guy named Eno Sari who was a mechanic.

And he one night came home super drunk, was smoking a cigarette and lit himself on fire and actually died of smoke inhalation. So he also suffocated, which makes sense why Patty was like, I feel like

I can't breathe. And then Dylan was also like, I smell smoke up here.
And we all smelled smoke too, which was wild. When we walked into that room, it was like a bonfire smell.
Like shot up my nose.

Yeah. It was insane.
You have a DV at septic. You can't smell shit.
Yeah.

So that was wild. Yeah, it was crazy.
Yeah. And it was funny too, because he was like, you could almost see he was like,

like, because it was so clear. And he was like, I'm not necessarily saying like somebody died by fire, but like, it looks like somebody died from fire.

We were like, no, like, someone died by fire dude.

Yeah, we were trying so hard not to be like, you got it.

Oh, keep going, keep going. Disgusting.

Well, and then we went downstairs. And that was when he threw, I forget like what we were asking.
We were just trying to get like a little deeper into it.

And that was when one of the bones went on the floor. Yeah.
And he was like, oh, something wants us to go in the basement. And he was like, I'm not going.

We hadn't said like anything to him about like, well, they found a pelvic bone in the basement. And like, that is ultimately where we're going to end up tonight.

And he like, he was like, I'm not going down there. Like, I do not want to go down there.

But something wanted us to.

And like, not to like confuse people, but going back in the video, Patty, also in that same room, was like, I don't know what it is, but there's something like with the fireplace. Yeah.

So even though it wasn't in that specific room, the pelvic bone was found, the 16-year-old girl, in the furnace downstairs. Yeah.
And so her and Dylan's findings like actually matched up right there.

Yeah. That was crazy.
Crazy.

And she said, she was like, that's, I think, like, well, where you're going to find your next clue.

And we did, which we did find it.

It was wild how they all like synced up.

It was like, we needed multiple parts of the story to really understand like who this person was and and who the killer was and it was like little pieces from each investigation all coincided and told the whole story together yeah it really did but since so many things overlapped definitely yeah

It was crazy. It really was.
I'm trying to think if there was anything else like huge that Dylan said. There was just so many things that were like spot on with him.

One thing that I thought was really interesting was a time that he wasn't doing his clarimancy. He was just walking around at the front, and we didn't know this at the time, but

like he pointed out a little piece of the history that, like, apparently it was like more recent.

And he kept looking over the pianos, and he's like, hmm, there's a guy that really likes to play the piano. And he really likes sitting there and just like watching over people and stuff.

But yeah, just a slightly older man. And then later on throughout the night, we went and asked the caretaker.
And she gave us a sheet of paper.

And right there, there's a guy named James that they are seeing recently that plays the piano and watches over people. And it's like, oh,

he just did that casually. Yeah.
He was just walking around. And that was like such a random detail of the story, you know? Like,

it didn't have anything to do with the story, really. It was just kind of like, oh, here's another ghost.
Right. It was just feeling that off the distance.
It was like,

how do you, like, that's so specific. And, and, like, how, how do we know that that's even part of it? At first, we were like, hmm, we haven't heard of anything like that.

Lo and behold, we go and do a little more research. Boom.
We're right there.

And I do want to like, what was interesting about that is like, at that point, the caretaker had left, like, when we were upstairs.

And so we actually found that just from like an information packet that was on like the kitchen table.

Sam and I did a lot of research on this place and had no idea there was like a James character that was this piano player until we were just like, ooh, we're taking a little break, like read through this packet.

A James who loves to play piano. Hilarious.
What? Like, boom, he had said it. It was crazy.

It was funny too, because at first I was like, I don't know, that doesn't really have anything to do with anything and then i was like oh it does

like oh yeah not our specific story but the story of the ghost series

yeah and that's when that's when we had ashley come in yep yep and we took her story thing immediately to the basement she was so down for anything though she walked in like you guys introduced us you kind of told her like what we were doing and you were like so we're going to the basement and she was like all right like where is it let's go yeah i was like damn and she just started right away like she went into it Yeah.

We like went through all the rooms down there. We get down and immediately in the room where there's the furnace, she goes, mm-mm, don't like that room.
Like immediately. She knew.
Yeah.

Like she looked at the corner exactly where the girl supposedly was like buried. And she's like, I don't like that corner.
It's like,

how?

The entire basement. It's like seven rooms downstairs.
Huge basement. And she points exactly to it.
It's like, no, right there.

I'm like, okay. Yeah.
What is going on? She also opened a door at one point and just went, nope. And then

I was like, what's in there?

I know. What? Did you? That was like a clock that was like.
She didn't tell us. We just moved on.

We were like, I was like, you know what? We don't need to know. Yeah.
That's fine. Just move on.
When she says no to a to a door, you're like, all right, I'll do that. It means no.
It's fine.

We don't need to mess with it. But then she's like, okay, well, my main thing is like rituals.
So you guys want to start off with like a ritual? And I was like, that's. Cool, let's do it.

She pulls out this mat. She's like, don't look at the mat.
Oh my God.

And then all you want to do is look at the fucking mat. I could not stop staring at that, but I kept looking at it and being like, stop looking at it.

I was so scared that I was going to go into a trance. I love it, though.
She's like, don't look at it. Yeah, she's like, don't look at it too much.

Like, if you look at these symbols, you're going to fall into a trance. No, I'm scared.
And I'm scared.

Okay. It was a giant, like, circular.
It kind of...

Yeah, it almost looked like it was like a big, like pentagram thing, but it just, it was just like a giant like black circle with like one big symbol on it.

Yeah, a bunch of like moon banana looking things.

Yeah, literally yeah and before she laid it out she looked at me and elaine and she's like what are your signs we like told her i was scared i was like capricorn she goes okay you'll be fine and i was like what yeah would i not be fine yeah i think she said like if you were water signs of a problem and you were like and i was like i'm a pisces moon i'm a water moon is that all right and she's like that's cool yeah you're chilling oh my god yeah we had never done that sort of i guess you can call it like exercise or ritual yeah with her before so that was new to us by the way i don't know if we explained that um but yeah she basically had us all stand into the mat and then plug one nostril

and breathe in nine times or something. Yeah, nine times.

And then she, after we did that, like, obviously we were like woozy a little bit. Yeah.
It gets you into like a state for sure. Uh-huh.

And then she just said, now just start, like, close your eyes and start saying like what comes to mind. Yeah.
That would have worked really well for you, Ash. Yeah.
Yeah.

It worked so well that I was like doubting myself though.

Um, what happened? At one point, I got a pain in my side and my right side. And I was like, I have a pain.
And she goes, what side? I said, right. She goes, me too.
I was like, okay.

And then I saw, so I saw the name Kathleen flash in my head, but I just said I saw the letter K because I was like, I don't want to sound like an idiot if it's like not Kathleen. Yeah.

So I was like, I saw a K and she was like, okay, you guys saw stuff too. You saw fingernails.
Yeah. And I think I'm like full transparency.
I'm thinking about it now.

And I'm like, it might have just been like. like the weird little like things when you close your eyes and you can

like kind of see shapes. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. You know, if you like close your your eyes and you just kind of sit there for a second I was like I don't know kind of looks like finger.

No, but it could be something but I don't know but I've been like dragged down there because after that I was like I don't see anything.

Yeah, you guys saw some stuff too like yeah I wasn't because I was filming I was like not doing the whole thing as much so I didn't I don't even think I saw anything but you did I remember you said like I see like fire Yeah is what and then I saw a tear on a cheek

with that but I can't remember what else I saw to be honest. It was only like a minute that we were throwing

rapid fire, literally. I don't know.
She asked me how I was with meditation before we did that, and I was like, I have no experience. Yeah, I was like, I'm the most, I'm so stressed.

I took a witchy class recently, and we would do like a couple meditations every class. So I weirdly got good at it.
Uh-huh. So I do feel like I tapped in for sure.

Yeah, you were like, that is the purpose of it. It's like, if you wanted us to become in a trance, and like have that intuitiveness.
Yeah.

And that's how a lot of these investigative methods like occur is like, you were supposed to be in a trance. You're supposed to be open to the spirits to communicate through you.
Right.

Because otherwise you will second guess. Yeah, exactly.
I was second guessing myself. And if you're open to that.
It's hard not to, though. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing like we're talking about, too, a lot. It's like...

kids versus adults, like if you're like, I don't know, I'm doubting myself all the time versus kids are more open to things.

And so like when you put yourself in a trance, you are like a little more open and susceptible to influence.

And so when you feel something, you really can actually like understand it and go with that gut feeling as opposed to like turning it off

and being like, nah, we got to face reality. Right, right.
Yeah. Which was really interesting because what did this K had to do with this? Yeah.

So then we moved back into the furnace room and she's actually started doing tarot and we were really trying to determine a name. And we hadn't, we had a name at first that we thought it was.

Well, she said she got a gut feeling that was Catherine. Catherine, that's what it was.
Yeah. So we asked the tarot and the tarot said no.
And then I was like, okay, like I'll

put myself on the line here. Was it Kathleen? And she goes, yes.
And I was like, that was like a crazy moment. So I was like, oh, wow, I should have said that back there.

Because that was the original thing that you saw, not a K, Kathleen. I saw Kathleen like in like flash in my head, but it's also my grandma's name and we've been taking care of her.

So I was like, maybe I'm like influenced somehow.

Maybe. Yeah, you were second guessing.
But it was so easy to. Yeah.
Yeah. So she was like, yes, it is.
So we confirmed that the girl who was like possibly murdered and thrown down there was Kathleen.

Kathleen. Which is really interesting.
It's different than Susan, who we thought

potentially could have been upstairs. But yeah, to kind of like paint a picture for like the people like listening,

we didn't know that you could just do yes or no

answers using tarot. But yeah, she still used the entire deck and then with intention, we would just ask the question.
Any of us could have asked the question.

Then she like put down a bunch of cards and still was able to like flip a certain one that was like yes or no. Yeah.
So it was like direct.

That was crazy. What was it? It was like she said the major arcana was the yes or no

and then when we wanted to get more specific she put like the full deck in and she had this cool thing where like she lays out the cards and then she tops them on one another and then she flips them which i was like that's so cool yeah and there was one point where like i noticed she like she went to grab one and it like stayed and she grabbed it she said and she literally said don't block me and then grabbed it and i was like you tell them yeah i was like right for you she was like yeah she's awesome

she's like no i'm not gonna take i love

We got this.

And that right there in that circle is where you got touched. Yeah, that's where I got touched.
And I almost second-guessed myself of like, am I just being freaked out? But it was so strong.

When you jumped. And I made like a

visceral movement with it that I was like, I need to say, what just happened? And actually said, she was like, what just happened? Like, she caught it. I can see it.
Yeah.

It was crazy. And then we all like set more intentions.
We were like, you cannot touch us. I got so weirdly protective of you in that moment.
Yeah. I was like, don't touch her.
Don't touch her.

And actually, in the other room when we were doing the meditation, she said something about brownish red hair. Yeah.

Like the, she had already, and I clocked it because I was like, damn, that's the third one that has said that.

All three psychics called out the red hair. Yeah.

All of them did because I made sure to like remember that. Yeah.
Because then when she brought it up again, when I said I got touched and she was like, well, because you look like her.

I was like, oh, you did already say that. I'll never be over the way.
She was like, yeah, well, like, you look like her. Yeah.
I was just like, oh, she's like, that's so casual.

Like, as if she just knew.

It's like, what she's talking about the victim though right yeah yeah so that means just so it's not confusing uh sk pierce's first wife had red hair and the 16 year old girl had red hair yeah yeah okay and that's why thinking that it's not sk upstairs with patty like you're saying and it's actually the guy who did it.

That's why I thought that.

Exactly. Once we got to that.
So

that would mean his,

we're getting into mommy issues here. His mom had red hair and his mistress.
Well, that makes sense because to kill you usually have mommy issues

so did you just give away who the murderer was to if you guys remember i mean that's what we mean we're about to be there yeah yeah so we thought

Some of us thought it was Edward, right? I thought it was Edward. You thought it was Edward.
I initially felt Frank.

You felt Frank. And the reason why we got that is because Patty originally had confirmed that it was part of the family, but it wasn't SK.

And we knew it was a girl that was murdered. And we got from Dylan that it was a lover or a mistress.
Yeah.

So we were like, okay, so if there was a murderer, it had to be a guy and it had to be a part of the family that lived at the house. So there was only really three

suspects at that point. And so that's why we're down to like those two.
So we asked if it was Edward, it was a no. We asked if it was Frank and it was a yes.

And that's actually interesting because that goes back to something Patty said when she was saying like she wasn't sure if it was one of the brothers she felt like it was like a distant family member but I almost wonder if she got that feeling because

like SK built the mansion for his wife, but then she passed away and like barely lived there. And then he married Ellen and had two kids.
So that was kind of like a new family.

And Frank was on the outskirts of that.

So I do wonder if that's why Patty got that feeling. The stepbrothers, he got outcasted.
Yeah. And he also didn't get any like partaking in like the mansion.
Yeah.

So it's like, okay, he's also outcasted there. Yeah.
That's interesting. Yeah.
Damn. Then we started diving deep into like, okay, well, then who was Frank as a person? Yeah.

And this is when we stopped the yes or no questions and actually started getting details. And every single one was like, this guy sucks.
Yeah, literally. It was like he's a lover.

He's a cheater. He had like, you know, just a bad past.
He got into trouble a lot,

which is really, really interesting because at the beginning, Patty was saying that she believes that whoever did it, whoever had killed this girl, had a pass. Yeah, she heard past.

Maybe killing again, but definitely a troubled pass where they had, you know, dabbled and maybe got in trouble with the law, those types of things. So again,

another overlap of the multiple psychics. And that he had like chances to be a better person along the way, but he chose not to.
Yeah. That was interesting.

And then we got kind of into the motive for killing.

And we actually, I think we asked Kathleen, did you did whoever this was know you were pregnant and she said no they didn't and that basically we found out that it seemed like she was just going to make their relationship public she was going to expose it to the wife she was going to expose it to the wife and that's when They came up with this plan to murder her.

And going back to Dylan, he threw the frog on its back,

which is fertility like symbols.

It all makes sense. All of it does.
And

he kept saying like there's a dark romance here. Yeah.
Like there's some kind of dark, dark romance. Like I don't.
So with Patty, we understood like who the killer was.

It had to be part of the family and that there was some sort of like darker entity there. And then with Dylan, we understood like the nuance of the killing.
Like it was a mistress who

got found out by the wife. And then with Ashley, we found out the name and then like how it all went down.
So it was like all the different pieces of the puzzle with three different psychics.

It was really interesting. And they never met each other.
You have to say that. That's to that point, yeah.

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And then we ended it on the 60s method in the basement with all of them. Yeah.
Yeah. That one I'm so interested to watch back.
I'm so interested too because we were blindfolded and had headphones off.

Yeah. So I was like, I don't know what happened.
Yeah. Colby and Ash did like had the actual like headphones on.
Yeah. Yeah.
The meeting. The process method is about like sensory deprivation.

So not only were they blindfolded, they also couldn't hear anything. And all they were hearing was the static of a spirit box go through and possibly like some words through the radio.

And so you didn't understand our whole conversation but me and elena and the three psychics were asking questions and it was a full-on conversation that you guys were collaborating on it wasn't like you were telling a different story than colby

it was like you know it was like colby would say something and then ash would follow up and everything would make sense together it was shocking the only thing i ever heard was just you guys going oh

like i couldn't hear kolby i couldn't hear like the questions you were asking i just heard like i was like oh my damn like they're freaking out because at one point you said stop and then colby said recording.

That's so. And we were like, and then I think at one point you said, like, stop, and he said, now.
I got so many stops at the end specifically. Yeah, and then bye.
It was just saying bye.

You said something about like

time. And then you said, like, eternal or something.
It was the weirdest one because like. It was the same idea that you both were just like piggybacking off of each other back and forth.
It was like

time forever.

Eternal, forever. And you just kept going back and like different words for like forever.
It was like forever, always, eternal, never ending. Like, and you, you, each one of you would do one.

And I was like, what was happening? How did you feel during that when that was all happening? I felt like

I was kind of like in like a little bit of a trance. Like my head was like down a little bit.
And yeah, I just kind of like a dream state. Yeah, it felt like I felt weirdly almost like I was like.

spinning, but I was like I wasn't dizzy, if that makes sense. Right.
Yeah, like almost like a drowsy kind of, I'm not here right now. Yeah, it was heady for sure.
It was weird.

And at one point, one of you said, like, you're mine. And then the other one said, like,

like repeated it or said something similar to it.

Didn't they get like what that was? We were like, who is? How is going on?

That I like don't remember the words that came up.

I mean, especially when you don't know what they were answering. Yeah.
But what was really interesting about the whole thing was

when we were talking to at the first half, it was like, oh, like, keep my secret. those types of things.
Like, I don't want this stuff out.

The main gist of our conversation was like, you know, now we figured it out. Like, what's going to happen? It was just like, no, like, don't do this.
Like, get out. Like, it was like, really, like,

again, protecting the image. The image.
The image. Always protecting the image.

What was interesting is like three-fourths of the way through, it kind of changed energies. It was almost like something else came in, and the psychics were like,

This is a little darker.

And that's when you were like, you're mine. It was like, oh, God, okay.

Oh, God. Yeah, it's messed up.

So we think, like, we made contact with not only the Pierce family, but also whatever is said to be this like non-human entity in the basement, which is really interesting.

The psychics were actually like, I... freaked out about this.
They were when all their things were going crazy. Like they were doing a pendulum and like the Dows, like they were back on the bus.

They were doing a bunch of tools. That's great.
I'm so excited to see it. I know.
I can't wait to see that. I can't wait to watch it.
I told Drew that when I got home too.

I was like, I can't wait to show this to you. Cause I was like, you didn't get to see it.
Yeah. It was crazy.
I know.

It was funny because like they, all the psychics, like, obviously are very, very into all this. They live and breathe the paranormal like just as much or more than we do.

And all of them were like, we have never seen an SS method like this. They all said that they were like, the fact that they were like.

intelligently kind of peggy backing off of each other is like not something that happens. They were like walking away in awe.
And at the end,

I think it was four or more times you guys said stop. And they were the ones that were like, guys,

we should stop

the psychic. We're like, one more question.

No, I remember toward the end, I was getting a little freaked out because it just kept saying stop. And I was like,

and the voice that was coming through was like, stop. Like, scary.

Yeah.

And it was getting more intense every time. So I was about to tap out when whoever tapped me and I jumped out of my skin when whoever tapped me.
Oh, yeah, my bad. That was all good.

But it was, yeah, that was crazy. It was a wild one.

The spirits definitely did not want us to talk about this secret, but I don't know if that was, I don't know who exactly was saying, don't tell the secret.

But what they were okay with is they were like, okay, if you think that Kathleen, this, this spirit that might be still there that had a, you know, pretty rough ending to her life, wanted to leave this place, you guys could help her visit.

Yeah. And so we decided, let's end the night.

Like, let's cleanse everybody in there. And then we'll have Ashley, who's like practiced in

getting rid of spirits and letting them move on, like do some sort of like ritual, like a cleansing ritual to let the spirit go, which I think was pretty beautiful. Yeah.
Yeah.

It was really, really cool. Yeah.
She did a giant banishing ritual. It was probably like 4 a.m.
at this. Yeah, 4 a.m.
Yeah, we left at like 3.45, I think.

Like our producers took like everybody else back home. You guys drove, which is crazy.
But like,

yeah, this was insane. This is funny.
So fucking funny. And we don't even know this.
Yeah, we have no idea.

Ashley told us that it was against like her code and her like

order, I guess you could say, for us to like include like the audio because it was so like crazy of the Spanishing ritual of what she was saying. Okay.

But she let us film it.

And basically, Sam was filming and I was tasked with holding like another sort of shell thing with a bunch of like, I don't even know what it was, like an herb in there.

And then was it the pine needles? Yeah, pine needles

and also something else. Yeah, I don't know.
It was like a, whatever. It was like a big herb or whatever that would help banish.

Yeah, Kathleen, I guess, or like save her.

Banish is a crazy word. Get out of here, Kathleen.
Get out, Kathleen.

Help her.

But then she also, there was like a little rock like in the middle of it that she was like, and then at the end, you're just going gonna stick we i had like a flame and like kind of like a punk or whatever um and she was like you're gonna stick that into the rock and it's going to like make a little boom

oh my god i would be freaking out that's how we ended up she just described it as like a pop she's like don't don't worry it's not gonna be not crazy but just

like a little pop and so i was like okay like sounds good i'm just gonna light this herb and then pop it at the end and so we're there for like probably five minutes and she's doing like reading from a book and like which was very intense by the way like screaming into the furnace, and it was like really intense.

Even when she blessed us, I was terrified. Yeah, she like blessed us so that nothing would follow us home, and even that was scary.
And I got holy water in my eye.

I'm so thankful for it. I was so thankful for it.

Your eye is protected. I know, we're good over here.

But yeah, without giving away like what she said or whatever, for her sake, basically, it was my turn to light this thing on fire. Oh, no.
And I was trying to do it, and I couldn't get it to work.

I had like the punk

and I was like, and she was like, come on, Colby. Come on.
We're doing a racial here. God damn it.
Damn it. Come on.

And she was like, ah, like whoever we were talking to, like, like, doesn't want you to do it. I'm going to do it.
So I was like, okay. She grabs it from me and then obviously first try.
She does it.

This thing did not

stop, dude. This one's a firework.

This one's like a, like it like went up in flames for like five seconds. I knew you weren't prepared.
It was like Colby is gonna freak out with this

She was gonna even do that picture a flare like a like a road flare like that

I know we got this on camera we we're still debating if we want to even like include this in like the the main channel video or not So this could be something that's just exclusive for you guys.

We don't know

I know the camera was pointing at me because Sam was filming smoke just went everywhere and I look look up and I'm like, oh, because the smoke detectors were right there.

Even when she had the incense going, I was like, looking at this about that.

And so you guys can imagine what happened next. They went off.
Every alarm in the entire house started

and there was like fire.

It was blaring loud through all three levels of the house. Did like the caretakers come? Nobody came.
Like the fire department didn't show up. Nobody came.
How did you turn them off?

They just turned off on their own? We ran upstairs and there was like a panel that said fire control or something like that. And so we were trying to click reset, but it wouldn't work.

And so we went and we just ran around the basement. We found a fan and turned it on and then like we're was just fanning the fire.
Oh man.

And yeah, and eventually like after like probably five, ten minutes. It was yeah, at least 10 minutes.
That must have been so overwhelming too because they're so loud.

That was my fear with the incense because I was looking up and I'm like, if those go off, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. They overstimulated.
Overstimulated.

it was like get me out of the space it was so loud I've never seen and Ashley if you're listening sorry about this it's just so funny like I've never seen like Ashley so like scared she looked at me and she was like what do we do yeah and I was just like sprinted upstairs we're like okay we're just don't panic like sort of a thing because it was kind of like a what do we do yeah these boats shut off we thought the fire department was gonna oh my god was gonna come imagine so did you finish did you get to finish the ritual um it was done done.

Like that was the end of the day. Oh, that was the end of it.
That was the end of it. So you finished with a bang.
Yeah. Exactly.
I was Kathleen. She was like, I'm out of here.

That was a big deal. She's like, I'm out of here, and you guys should, too.

Get out.

That was so funny. That was it.
Like, we did our own cleansing afterwards and left the house. That was it.
Nice. That is bonkers.
I'm dying to see that.

I know. It's just like if four in the morning and three people are running around frantically, like, what happened? Yes! Hello!

That's so funny. Because, especially being in the basement, that would have sent me into it.

I probably would have climbed out the barred window

and figured a way out. I was so on edge in that basement.
Like, that basement did not feel good. It's crazy.

And especially after being touched in that basement, if those alarms went off, I think I would have died. Yeah, I would have just went into cardiac.
It was like 4:30 a.m. You guys saw the street.

It was kind of like a semi-busier street

in the small town. And so we were like afraid that everybody around there could like hear.
Yeah. He was loud.
oh my god

we're good

as well and dipped out of there so hopefully kathleen is good i know i hope so i'm interested to see like if the caretakers like experience anything yeah like that friend makes it feel like yeah different that makes it feel like she's yeah still dumb yeah we'll see because ashley's cleansing felt like it worked because i didn't feel like i was followed i thought i was gonna come in the house because it was 5 a.m at that point and it was like pitch black in my house and it's like dead quiet and i'm like now i have to walk upstairs in like the pitch block.

I'm like, I'm scared. I wasn't even freaked out.
It was weird.

No, I was just going to say it's so funny because usually when we get home from things, I like stay up a little bit longer and kind of like decompress decompress.

And like, I'm freaked out usually and like on edge. I was not at all.
No. In fact, we slept for 12 hours.

I literally slept.

You knocked. I got home at 5.15.
I ate some spaghetti. I went upstairs and I slept until 4 p.m.

Drew was like, are you dead? I was like, no.

sorry. It was just the ghost.

I chugged some water and then got woken up an hour later by my youngest. Oh, I can't.

But you went back for a little bit. I did.
John was like, go to sleep. Yeah.

How did that

change the way that you guys think about psychics?

I'm still a firm believer.

Oh, yeah, there we go. I think I still feel the same way where it's like most of them

are, I think, not right. But I think we got a good one.
We got three goodies.

I was like, wow, how did we manage to grab grab three that like, because they just, they made so much sense. All their stories.
They just didn't feel put on at all. Like,

when we, every single one after we left them or they left us, I was like, holy shit. Like, that person was crazy.
Yeah.

Like, when we left Ashley at the end, I was like, She's like the coolest girl I've ever met. I was like, she's such a badass.
100%. Like, just like opening the book of her.
I was like, damn.

Yeah, she's like opening her book and like reading in other languages. And then the blessing, she's just like saying all these things.

I was like, you're the coolest person out i was so impressed by her

yeah and she's like accurate 100 of the time like all the tarots that we've done in previous videos with her all come true i know i want you to like come do a tarot i know i'm like actually come back yeah you should all of them though we were like all of them i loved them they were all great in their own ways yeah totally yeah we were talking about this on the way over but in terms of psychics would you guys if you knew like let's say like all these psychics are real would you want to know your future i'd want to know some good good things, but I wouldn't want to know like when I'm going to die or anything like that.

What do you think your question would be if you got like one question about your life from like these psychics? Because I don't think I would want to know any future. No.
Nothing. I just want to.

You just want to live. I think it's playing God a little bit.
I'm a Christian, so I'm like,

I just don't want to, like, I just want to kind of take it as it comes. So I don't, I think if I know, I'm going to be crazy.

Like, I'm going to be like trying to prepare for it or trying to make something happen.

But yeah, I don't think I would want. I think I would just,

I'm trying to think of what the question would be. I know one question is like, this is like two truths in a lilah again.
Exactly. I'm like, hold on.

So, I mean, if you don't want to know maybe certain things, maybe asking, like, what's one thing I could, I could change about my future or something that like

me to prepare for or something. Yeah.
Yeah.

Or like, what's the happiest, like, what's a happy thing that's going to happen in the future? Just like, I want to know. This is like one good thing.

One good thing later in life I can look forward to or something. Yeah.
Like that would be nice to know. Yeah.

But I think a lot of real psychics and mediums, like it seems to be like a thing among them, like the more. accurate they are,

they'll tell you, if I'm going to tell you anything, I'm going to tell you the good and the bad. Like you can't pick.

Like my husband's family, like they're like one of his like great, great great aunts was like a well-known psychic and like helped in police investigations and stuff in Massachusetts.

She's the way she was born. Yeah, there's this like old wives tale or like some lore with psychics that if you're born with like a veil of like almost like

you're born like veiled almost like there's like there's a group in your face. That means you are like you have the gift.
And she was born that way. And she and she would only tell you everything.

So she would say like, I won't tell you. Like you can't cherry pick.
I won't tell you anything if you're not willing to hear everything.

It's good that she told people that up front before they like sat down and got into it. And she's like, well, then you're going to die in theory.
Yeah.

So his grandmother was like, yeah, I don't want to know anything.

But like, some people wanted to hear things and the things came true. It's kind of like a mental fuck.
Yeah.

Like, I just don't want to know. Like, I'd rather just live my life.
That's the thing. I just want to happen anyway, you know? Physically,

might as well not like worry about it. Yeah.

It's hard to choose if you would want to know or not. Yeah, I don't think so.
I feel like if you had to know everything versus nothing, definitely know nothing. No.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

But I feel like if I cherry pick a question, like, that would be interesting. I agree.
Yeah. Yeah.
For sure. Yeah.
If I could cherry pick, I would do that question.

Like, what's one really great thing that's going to happen? Does actually, she tells you the good and the bad, or yeah, uh, yeah. Um, we've got some tarot readings that are good and bad.
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm not going like too personally in this, but when I met you guys, I had cancer.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I had cancer.

And so like my face, I don't, obviously I'm not like expecting you guys to remember this, but my face was really swollen. I was like dealing with like a lot of like acne skin issues.

And I've never like dealt with that in my entire life. And so something was wrong.
Like my body was reacting and I had no idea what was going on.

And the month that I got diagnosed, which was in January of 2023, Ashley came over for the first time, did a tarot card reading and was just like, this looks really bad.

Like you're about to go through like one of the scariest moments of your life. Holy wow.

Yeah,

I knew that you had gone through that, but I didn't realize it was like when we met you. That was crazy.
She said that weeks before.

Said that was going to happen. Weeks before.
Yeah. Holy shit.
The next six months was like a horrible, like

scary experience, but yeah, for both of us. What was wild is she called it for six months.
She said, it'll be about the next half a year. Wow.
Until you're better and you were

cancer-free halfway through 2023. Yeah, like June.
Wow. I like announced in July, but like May June-ish, I was cancer-free.

And so, yeah, that's why, personally, I'm like, I'd rather not know.

Yeah, because how did you feel hearing that before realizing you were sick?

Sorry, Ashley, I didn't know if I believed it.

Yeah, I like, you know, I was like, okay, whatever. That could be like cool for like the YouTube video or whatever.
And then like my life started unfolding literally two weeks later. Yeah.
And

yeah, I was like, whoa, this, or at least like she is real.

And like ever since then, I was like, okay, I'll do tarot card readings and stuff for videos and like to talk about like ghost hunting and stuff like that. But not for personal stuff.

I don't like doing it personal. I don't blame you.
It's a lot to take in, especially when it comes true. It's like, okay.
Yeah. I don't want to know that.
I'll just cross that bridge when I get it.

I'm good on that. So how do you feel, Sam? Are you like doing them only, doing tarot only for videos, or will you do it personally too?

I've never gotten any psychic reading or anything like that outside of the video thing but i'm okay with doing it in videos i mean when we did our uh series for our school where we stayed a whole week at our school we actually had ashley come out and read tarot about the school in our process of opening that for ghost investigations and what was crazy is

everything the good and the bad was correct as well with that.

Even down to weird things like business licenses and things like that. She was discussing like how that process is going to work.
And it played out exactly how she expected it. And I was like,

what? Like, how do you know these things?

It's really, really wild. Yeah.
She was saying like specifically, she was like, there's a principal entity here, which we had already known and investigated and stuff like that.

And told us exactly, like, yeah, he's not evil. He's not a bad guy, but he's very strict and cares a lot about his school.

And so when you guys take over, you guys are going to have some like issues with like licensing like the the city around it and we did like on the back end everything is great now um but she predicted that and we didn't even know that was going to happen till like two months later yeah how would you ever know crazy she well and one thing that you'll see too that we didn't even mention was we had in the beginning of the skate pierce um investigation we had asked for a word

oh we didn't even touch on that yeah and ashley especially the word was rib and we just did like a random word generator, too. It's not even like it was planned beforehand.

And we asked her, specifically, is there like a word that the spirits are telling you? And she just asked for how many letters. Yeah.
It was three letters, obviously.

And how many three-letter words are there in English?

A billion.

And she immediately starts doing the tarot cards and she throws one down and says R.

And I was like, what are the odds of that? Yeah. And then in the middle, she was saying I.
Yeah.

And I think we were all like, I was like, is she about to say rib right now yeah I would have lost my shit and I think she was like unsure of the last one but I was like I feel like you know it I think she didn't even know it but something's trying to like scramble you or something like rig or something like that but rib whatever the how

that she got r and i yeah

insane yeah yeah like that blew my mind even just the r would have blown my mind when she went to the i i was like what the fuck

even patty though when she walked in she grabbed her stomach and she started talking about her belly i was waving i was like you're about about to say rib like looking at you guys like

she like got that I was like what yeah

part of your body

I don't know like right here I was like what is that

really crazy yeah that blew my mind we're still also just full disclosure like debating whether we are gonna put that in our channel or not so that could be an exclusive

but yeah it is really really cool just for people to know that like we did that experiment yeah it was it was like a personal extra test because like obviously the main goal was understanding the the unsolved mystery but it was really cool to like have this like uh isolated test with the spirits that had nothing to do with the house at all uh what they could pick up and that actually thing like i was i don't know when she was like r i i was literally shaking oh yeah oh god what is that please what is happening

so close yeah it was really amazing actually yeah yeah it was incredible but you need to see it all because this does not even do it slightly justice.

No, there's plenty of things that are just on the video. You can hear the touch tones.
You can see the bones rowing. Like that.
That's what I'm saying. You can see our facial reactions.

Oh, my God. Will be like just going into him.

It was insane. Yeah, it was wild.
And then seeing the ST's method at the end is going to be so much fun to see.

I'm excited to see the full conversation. Yeah, I'm excited to actually see it.

So definitely check it out on Sam and Colby's channel. Thank you.
It'll be out right now as this is out. Yeah.
Simultaneous for last year. Same day.

Yeah, same day. So go check it out.
Thanks for joining our experiment. That was so fun.
Thank you for having us. It was so awesome.
It was fun. It was so fun.
It was awesome.

It was unlike anything we've ever done on the channel before. You guys got to experience this.
We're always down to ghost town. Oh, yeah.

Let's do it more often.

Let's listen to what you want to part two.

All right. Well, thank you guys so much for listening.
And we hope you you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird.

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