2025.08.22: Bautista Backup

Happy Pride, brother.

Hey, we're recording the podcast.

Gut up!

Good

morning to you, wherever you are, because

it is

for August 22nd, 2025.

My name is Bernie Burns, sitting right over there.

She's a little late for Pride months.

It's Ashley Burns.

Hadass everybody.

You know, Bernie, if you really try hard enough, Pride is whenever you want.

so that is rune dog first of his name on instagram evan mulroney mulrooney i guess is the way you say it i just saw him in something he was like a bouncer in something but that was the guy i was talking about that i follow on that that's your instagram bear yeah did i bear did i describe is that right am i using the right terms i don't i mean i don't think he's hairy enough to be a bear i can be girl and out of touch ashes

he can be both you know the mustache is heading in the right direction but that's really more like channeling queen right i guess than specifically bear-coated.

I love him.

We'll link him in the link dump.

No, but trigger warning: you're gay.

This is how you figure it out.

Just want to warn you, this guy, this is his Instagram reels.

And the thing is, you are right.

I have seen this guy, but I've seen this guy because you showed me this guy.

He does not come up in my For You page, so you did tell on yourself a little bit.

I saw him.

You love this.

You love this guy.

Was after it's weird.

It's that confirmation bias or whatever the hell that is, that observation bias, where when you know about something, then you see it everywhere.

It's the red car bias.

He had a

bit part

in the studio.

He was like a door security for the studio.

He does, he does a lot of work, but I just immediately saw him after seeing his Instagram reels.

It is, then do you wonder you have to go and look through his credits to see what else you've seen him in, but it was before you like clocked him as him?

He was in a lot of stuff.

Like he's got a John Ham style look.

So it's like he's really good for specific roles.

And I think he was in like some period stuff like that I believe his his Instagram bio is something like the working man's Henry Cavill the working man That's how it just that's how he describes himself and I was like, you know what?

That's pretty accurate.

Yeah, not bad not bad and some people just look we all knew somebody like this They kind of look 40 when they're 18 like they have a full five o'clock shadow in high school.

Right, but the good news is they'll also probably look 40 when they're 80.

Yeah, yeah.

Or maybe not.

You never can tell what that should be.

No, it's like it's rule of the dice, right?

Rule of the dice.

But also, let's be honest,

it really is unfair how much guys get away with that.

Like, I was just looking, I've been seeing a ton of stuff about DCU lately.

I've never seen anyone comment, and I hate to be the person who's commenting on it.

When did James Gunn go completely white?

Like, his completely gray hair?

Seemingly overnight.

Right?

Like, I remember he was, uh, he had a little bit of the salt and pepper, uh, and then one day, white hair, white beard.

Right.

But like, here's what I think happened.

Are you ready for this?

I think he signed the Santa Claus.

Is that what he did?

That's what he did.

Now he's just like overnight, it all went white.

And once a year, he spends the night traveling the world, giving gifts to the good boys and girls of the world.

And then also a couple days of the year, he does the same, but in theaters via the DC.

Listen, people are excited about the DCU.

The weird, the cool thing, I should say, is how incredibly engaged he is.

I don't know how you can maintain that, but like, it just seems like if you have a question about the DCU, you can just go and ask the guy who's making the whole thing.

Like, Kevin Feige was

kind of known.

Yeah, and he's like, there's no access to him.

Like, he's the guy, but you can't, like, you can't just go and like tweet him and maybe get a response.

Yeah.

Right.

Whereas James Gunn, I find he is very active both in responding to people, but also if someone publishes an article about something, he has no problem going, this isn't remotely true.

Man, comeback kid of all time.

He got full-on canceled.

Do you remember that?

I do remember that.

That was the, oh, we're going to go, the moral police of the late 20 teens were like, we're going to go through your tweets and we're going to find something that we don't like.

And he got like from like 15 years ago.

He got fired from Disney and Marvel.

He was done, you know?

And I'll never forget.

Do you remember anybody who like, this is a rare thing that happens?

Somebody publicly went to bat for him yes i do i do it was uh it was batista batista did it dave batista was like fuck this i like i am ride or die with this guy and it was like it was really it was great to see it was good to see uh you know and then he did uh he did

we should clarify too the the thing he did was he made jokes like edgy jokes it was edgy jokes but that's also like what he did that was his career before he did Guardians of the Galaxy is like, he was like an edgy horror guy.

He was a trauma guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

yeah, like, so doing like the sort of like edgy and honestly in

sometimes frequently poor taste jokes, and like that was like what he did, right?

Their shock value was part of his entertainment repertoire.

Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Maybe women these days can like they're not getting as much criticized for looking older as well.

I do read a lot of women responding to it.

Like,

I would say it's better than it used to be

as far as like,

you know, older women aren't getting just straight up pushed out of the industry.

It does still happen where you can get offered, like, you turn 30 and bam, you're now offered the role of moms.

Meryl Streep was, I saw a clip of her on, I think it was the Graham Norton show,

talking about how the year she turned 40, she got three different role offers as witches.

No, shit.

Jesus.

And she was like, hell of a birthday.

And she's like, fuck all the way off, everybody.

Everybody, fuck off.

You know, and so that it does still happen.

I do think it's gotten better, and I think probably the conversation has helped it.

You know, but it's not all the way back.

You know what I'm saying?

Guys do get to age and women are expected to fight it and then criticized for doing so.

Yeah.

Also, though, there is another thing, too.

I do feel like guys can't fight it either.

Because guys get criticized for trying to fight.

That's true.

Like, if you're, if a guy wants to get some work done,

no one's not clowning on him.

In general, though, I think that is the move towards that where people are now kind of clowning on people more for trying to fight the march of time, like by doing stuff like procedures and things like that.

Unless you're like Lindsay Lohan, who somehow fell in the fountain of youth somehow overnight.

And everyone's like, how the fuck did you?

Please tell us whatever you did.

She signed a deal with Santa Claus or something.

I don't know what that was.

She signed the Santa Claus.

Anyway, to sum up, dear listener, the first part, the first six minutes of our podcast here, I'm gay, you're gay.

Let's all follow Evan Mulrooney on Instagram.

How about that?

He's fantastic.

We'll be fine with it.

But that was something that you weren't able to look up on the fly and send me yesterday to include in the link dump because you went to Aberdeen yesterday.

You took the wild pack of boys to the airport, but there was something missing from your trip.

And it was a big something.

It was a very important something.

It was your phone.

It's like an hour and a half away from here.

I have to drive to go to the airport, which sounds like a really far way to go to an airport.

It takes us about 45 minutes to get to the airport in Austin.

Yeah, and it used to take me an hour to get to the airport when I lived in Utah.

It took me an hour to get to the airport when I lived in San Francisco.

It was close, but it wasn't close.

This is a different hour and a half, though.

It really is.

It really is like, you know, we were going to a different place to go to the airport.

Well, do you remember my phone?

Do you remember the time that we were going to the airport and we got held up because a

farmer was migrating his sheep down the road?

It was awesome.

It was awesome.

Like, well, this is our life now.

We chose this.

We just waited as all the sheep passed by.

We chose it.

Yeah.

And we thought, you know, there is a point at which you learn not to stress about travel.

I get stress about little shit like iPhones and stuff like that.

And I'm trying to get this cable pulled through a wall later today.

Trying to drop a cable, if you know what that means.

And I like.

I stress about weird little stuff like that, but like, I don't let travel stress me out anymore.

I've been through every possible scenario, I think, with travel.

Like, I even think I talked while we were doing this podcast, I had an overnight delay in London.

I was like, You're like, Yeah, that's fine, whatever.

Here's the voucher.

All right, great, cool, thanks.

I'll go sit in the hotel then, you know?

It's like, it'll be fine.

Everyone stresses so hard about travel.

I don't know why.

Well, a lot of it is like, you know, if you have to be somewhere and you schedule things just perfectly, and then you do the thing, and then someone else is fucking it up for you.

That's always a stressful situation because you can't control what's happening.

So,

there is a stress involved

doing your part and feeling like someone else isn't doing their part.

It'll be fine.

Like your worst connection, your worst case scenario in a travel situation is still the absolute best case scenario for somebody 50 or 60 years ago or 100 years ago.

You know what I mean?

It's like, I like.

Oh, it took an extra day to get across the globe.

I'm so sorry that happened to you.

I do like to think about that in terms of like before air travel, right?

It's like, oh, I have a meeting in London.

I'm getting on a ship now.

It'll be a month there, a month back, and then I'll be there for, I don't know, three hours.

And then I'll do my meeting, and then I'm on the next ship back.

So I love you, sweetie.

Be back in two months.

Bye.

We knew somebody who just took the Queen Mary over.

Like, that's, I guess, the boat that runs between the U.S.

and the UK.

There's one left.

You can still do that.

You just get on the Queen Mary and come over.

And that's what they did.

I kind of want to do that one day, just to see.

I like how

cosplay is people's lives 100 years ago.

Well, it's so that you develop an appreciation for the conveniences that you have, right?

Yeah, but chips are shitty.

Sometimes you develop an appreciation for the conveniences you have by being inconvenienced, like leaving your phone behind when you go to Aberdeen.

Oh, like, yeah, that was my big problem.

Let's be honest.

You said the reason why I couldn't look up this guy's Instagram account was because I lost my phone and didn't bring it with me to Aberdeen.

The real reason was we were on the podcast and I opened Instagram.

And like always happens when I go on social media or on my phone to do something.

Let me guess, boobs.

No, as soon as I start, there's just anything.

Like, my brain just goes, whatever you were doing, stop.

What do you call the doorway?

Oh, yeah, when you go through the door.

Like, you walked through a door and you are in a room to do something and you go,

wait, why did I come up with it?

Why did I come?

That's my smartphone every time I pick it up.

This is the biggest door in the world.

Right, you

know, and I'm like, what?

15 minutes into an Instagram scroll, you're like, wait, what was I here to do?

It's like, I should have a set of matching Yeti cups.

And what was I going to do?

Oh, right, 911.

That's what I just said.

That's what.

That's why I opened my phone.

Keep breathing.

Keep breathing.

We'll be fine.

It's not that much blood.

Instagram here has some great tips on minimizing your blood loss.

So I went down to Aberdeen yesterday to drop off the,

I always want to say the kids, but they're not the kids.

The lads.

The men.

The men.

They are now men.

To drop off the men at the airport to go back to their lives, university or apprenticeship for an electrician.

And

I didn't have my phone and

they were leaving at different times.

Teddy was actually leaving much later that day.

So I got to spend the day with Teddy in Aberdeen.

Teddy, though, being from the U.S., he does not have a Scottish sim.

It's kind of annoyingly so because we've tried to get him a Scottish sim like five or six times or a UK one and he doesn't have it.

Then me without my phone, it was two people with no connection to the internet.

That was,

I'm embarrassed to say how hard that day was without my goddamn phone in my hand.

Well, it's because it wasn't just your phone.

It wasn't just connectivity to the world.

It's all the things that you now rely on your phone to do.

Right.

I mean, telling time, buying train tickets.

Oh, paying for train tickets or food or whatever, because you can store your cards in your phone.

And everywhere here takes Apple Pay, which is so we get used to that.

And you don't carry the physical cards if you don't don't absolutely have to, which you don't think you absolutely have to if you don't realize you didn't take a phone.

The number of times I thought had a train of thought in my head that ended with, oh, right.

I don't have my phone on me.

Like even, you know, I couldn't pay for things with a credit card at all because I didn't have a credit card on me because it was in my goddamn phone.

So we were relying on Teddy's debit card, which somehow didn't get locked.

I'm not sure how.

Then we were passing a Starbucks and I was like, oh, it'd be great to get a coffee, but I don't have my cards.

Oh, right.

Oh, but I don't need my cards.

I have a card.

I can go on my Starbucks app and they get, and I go, all right.

They don't have that either.

And it just kept happening again and again and again.

And I put my card on my watch.

That doesn't work.

There was not a single place where my watch worked.

Maybe you have to have your phone with you.

I've seen people use the watch.

I have two before, and I've never seen it go smoothly.

It always takes like a couple tries, or I don't know, maybe the angle's not right.

Maybe the NFC reader or something inside just isn't quite the same.

But it's never gone smoothly trying to use the watch that I have observed.

I didn't reply to Xander.

He wrote me because he was listening to the podcast and we were complaining about the battery life of my watch.

And

he was contacting me trying to say, look, hey, check this and see what the battery health on is.

I didn't even reply to him because I had discovered in the meantime, I had been running a voice memo on my watch for about two and a half days.

You found the drink.

So if you want to know anything that happened around me audio-wise in the last two and a half days, I've got it recorded on the watch.

I might have run the battery down a little bit.

You don't need like Amazon listening to all your conversations or Facebook listening to all your conversations.

You're doing it yourself.

I think for Christmas, Xander's gonna buy me an Android phone.

That's what I would do.

It would take so much heat off of him.

Maybe that'll be my gift for Xander for Christmas.

I'll get him, me getting an Android phone.

But then you're gonna have to find someone to bitch about Android to.

I don't bitch about Apple to Xander.

He just has to listen to me do it.

So I feel bad about that.

I do feel bad about that.

Not really bad, but kind of bad.

I feel more bad about that.

Just a little bit.

Did anything happen interesting in your two and a half day

recording?

I didn't go back and listen to it.

It was also, it's like I tried to figure out how to pull it.

You know what I wanted to do because I was recording non-stop?

I wanted to see if I snore.

Like, I'm curious.

Okay.

I think I snored on a plane.

I'm pretty sure I snored on a plane recently.

Okay, so here's what you do.

First of all, when you're home, just ask me.

I can tell you.

Yes, you do.

Me snoring on a plane is mortifying.

Other people snoring on a plane, I could not.

Not a problem.

I could not care about it.

It's the same as a lot of things, right?

Like, similarly, if I hear someone's kid acting up on a plane, my immediate reaction is sympathy.

If my kid acts on a plane, it's mortification.

It's mortifying when your kid is losing it around other people.

Oh, speaking of which, I saw this article

that a guy was in Boston.

And he told five teens to shush during weapons, a screening of weapons, and the teens beat the shit out of him what yeah they beat him up and they're they're trying to find the teens right now they made a wall according to him they made a wall and blocked him from exiting the theater and then they started wailing on him and he just sounds like a really nice guy like i don't know if i would have said some of the things about myself that he said when he was getting attacked he said and i didn't fight back i was just so scared and i just went up and up against the wall and tried to cover my face against the wall and they just stood there like punching him in the back of the head i'm sorry were they watching screen uh the screening of weapons as an instruction manual?

What the hell?

Yeah, no, it's just a way.

And I, you know, this is a thing too, because you remember we went and saw, was it Mission?

Minecraft?

Oh, oh, yeah, uh, what was it?

Indiana Jones?

Oh, Captain America.

Captain America, yeah, the new Captain America.

And there were a couple of dudes in the room.

Three dudes.

That like in this enormous theater in which there was loads of seating.

And when we booked our tickets, there was no one anywhere near us.

These dudes sat right behind us and then we're just like chit-chatting and laughing to each other half the movie and you were like come on guys and I was in my chair going I don't want to get beat up and then I said to them I finally said can you keep it down?

Actually, I was a little bit rude than that.

I don't say exactly what I said.

I think we talked about this when we saw it.

Maybe it was a Patreon thing.

And then we were walking out to the car because it was at night.

I said hey, just in case anything happens, just go straight to the car.

And then you were like, what's the up?

What?

And I was like, yeah, you know, it's something you keep in the back of your mind.

You know what I mean?

You confront people.

You don't know what's going to fucking happen.

As Bernie pulls out of his back pocket, his boxing boxing gloves like just in his just-in-case boxing gloves they also after i corrected them they left early they did which i thought was interesting you know which i know that everyone says um that that behavior and conduct in movie theaters is generally on the decline this is got to be one of the first that i've heard of at least of someone like actually getting beat up for telling people to zip it in a movie theater.

I know that like the Minecraft movie was a meme of poor behavior, but I don't remember hearing about anyone getting beat up.

There's property damage.

Yeah.

But beating someone up for telling you to zip it is like, that's next level.

Sports arenas feel like the place where you'd be more likely to have an altercation.

You see videos of people like wailing on each other in sports arenas.

Yeah, but usually that's because like the someone came wearing like the visitor jersey to rile up the locals.

Like they, I feel like you go into that with a goal.

Never understood that mentality, honestly.

I mean, I get it.

I was at a Super Bowl party with somebody one time, and it was like, I'm going to say like San Francisco versus Denver.

I'm going to say, I don't know why.

And

everyone there was, it was a San Francisco crowd.

But then this one girl was like, well, since someone's going to root for Denver, I'll root for Denver.

And then she was doing that thing when they were winning of like, yeah.

And people started like, this is such a bad strategy.

Either you're going to win and everybody's going to be mad.

Or everyone's going to make fun of you because you lost.

Like the whole room.

It's like, you know, just have fun and root for whoever everyone else is rooting for if you don't care about either team.

Sports are tough.

I can see being like, well, I'm going to cheer for the underdog because everyone here is clearly going for the overdog, right?

They're going for the updog.

And so I like, I do understand that to some degree with sports, but also if you wear the visitor's jersey and start like, you know, getting in fights with people, I do feel like you went.

There was a goal there, right?

You were feeling like getting in a fight and this was a perfect opportunity.

That's what I mean.

I don't feel like a screening of weapons is something you go to being like, oh yeah, it's going to go down.

We're going to brawl.

Well, speaking of looking for a fight and generally being troublesome, Prince, I heard that there was, I think we might have heard about this earlier this year, but there was a developer who set up basically a bunch of malicious code in a kill switch on

his employer's network.

And when he got laid off or fired and was his account was removed from the directory, it triggered this kill switch and basically locked everyone out of their accounts, crashed all their servers.

It was this huge problem for them.

And he was found guilty.

He's now been sentenced to four years in prison.

And I think an additional like three years of supervised release or something after that for basically setting up all of this stuff to destroy his employer's network if his employment was terminated.

It is like one of the first rules they put in place when technology became a thing with business and computers.

Everyone thinks this is such an original idea.

It's like, oh, you know, if they didn't have me, this place would fall apart.

Let me put in some little traps to make sure it will fall apart.

That is the fastest court cases you will ever see in your life.

If somebody locks down someone's business where they used to work, and that person goes to jail and usually pays a huge fine.

Like even more so than someone outside the group who hacks somebody, you have a contract probably with that company.

It's always a terrible idea.

And you always hear about some IT guy who does this and thinks he's being so smart and brilliant and he's just fucking himself over.

Right, because it's not, it's not the legitimate they would fall apart without me, right?

It's not letting them, you know, shoot themselves in the foot by getting rid of the only person who actually knows how the network works and what that server in the closet does.

It's making sure by adding malicious stuff to the network that it happens.

So this says, the malicious code included an infinite Java thread loop designed to overwhelm servers and crash production systems.

Also created a kill switch that would automatically lock all users out of their accounts if his account was disabled.

What a dummy.

What a weird dummy.

I just don't understand how he thought that wouldn't get found.

Whenever something like this happens, you know, and somebody acts like this and does something like this, I guess it's to...

be malicious, but I help can't help but in this day and age think it's to garner sympathy from other people like look what they they did and how how they got screwed over it's like no now it makes sense why they fired you like right this is this is not something a normal person does right right i mean clearly and the thing is like dude this guy worked for this company for a really long time and you you know if you're getting uh i think he got demoted and then added all this malicious stuff and then got fired yeah uh and you know so you can see how that sort of downward relationship trajectory happened it doesn't make it reasonable yeah so if you work in it our basic advice is just don't do that.

Right.

It'll get you.

It's not the upside that it sounds like.

No.

Listen, Bautista is not going to stand up for everybody.

You'll be left out in the cold.

Get in line.

I feel like I had an internet kill switch yesterday with a being by myself.

You had the ultimate.

I was locked out of my own life.

The ultimate two-factor authentication.

I genuinely had a thought yesterday when I was without my phone.

And all the things I couldn't do because they were with my phone.

I had a moment where I thought,

is my phone more me than I am?

Like, it's definitely like the proof of you, right?

Like, if you're walking around Aberdeen,

what did you have that proved you, you?

Right.

Like,

what could I do to transact in my normal existence or the one that I've built without that thing?

It was kind of crazy.

It was cool to not have it.

I've talked about this before where I went to the Apple store and they took my phone away from me.

And then as soon as they walked away, I was just sitting there in in the middle of the store.

And I thought, I'll just, and then I, but I couldn't just because I didn't have the thing, they had taken in the back room.

And then I sat there and I like turned towards the wall and looked at the wall.

It was more so like a separation anxiety of thing for like 30 minutes.

Then it was, we were really fine and we were just navigating.

But it was crazy how many times during the day I started down a path and then it immediately dead ended because I didn't have my phone on me.

And I didn't have this thing, what, 10 years ago?

15 years ago?

I didn't have it.

So sometimes it's good to inconvenience yourself to figure out what the convenience really is.

Like literally, you're talking about the train?

Yeah.

I said, okay, I guess we go to the train station and there will be a machine where we can buy paper tickets like in other countries when we go there, like we did in Amsterdam.

Yeah.

Was there any ability to buy paper tickets?

I didn't have the app for that, so I could go do that.

But then I have to get to the train station.

I don't know where the train station is.

I guess I'll just start asking people on the street, where's the train station?

Like, it's just like you're back on Amazing Race.

Yeah, it's just back, you know, basically like I'm back like 15 years ago and that's it.

You carved up, bro.

But it is like all of those things as well.

But then I get to the train station and now I need to pay for it.

It's like, that's also in that goddamn phone, the way to pay for these tickets at the kiosk.

It's, it's great that we've consolidated everything.

It's terrifying that we've consolidated everything.

Yeah.

It was just, it was a very interesting experiment to go without my phone for a day.

And it's like, I feel like I do that all the time, but being

waked from home and not having it felt really weird, like being more than two hours away from my phone.

Surely, though, I've had a thing where my phone has been broken or something like that, right?

Have you?

I don't know.

It's been a while.

Used to be, man, every time I dropped my phone, it was like.

Okay, I'm going to pick it up.

Let's see if it's destroyed or not.

I feel like phones are past that now.

Well, I think that it's partially that we've gotten past the idea of having like the thin, beautiful smartphone.

And the second that thing arrives,

we take it out of its box.

On goes the screen protector, on goes a case, and then we will never see the phone nude again.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

It's going to be dressed neck to feet.

Do you remember one time I broke a phone going between cases?

I got a new case for it and when taking it out of the old case to put it in the new case, I dropped it and it fucking broke.

In like the like 10 seconds, it was out of the case.

The reason why I was taking it out of the cage is why I broke it.

Ridiculous.

Well, I want to say a big thank you to those who are careful with their phones.

Nicholas Shannon and Monsterman437.

Thank you both so much for sponsoring this episode of our show at patreon.com slash morning somewhere.

New iPhones are probably being announced in the next two weeks.

We've skipped a generation or two at this point.

I will be looking to see if maybe this is one, but my current phone is perfectly fine.

I track the age of my phone based on the age of my kids because

I buy a new phone whenever a new kid is born because I'm like, I need

nicer, like higher res, baby photos, all this.

And I need a new one.

All right.

Well, that does it for us today, August 22nd, 2025.

We will be back to talk to you on Monday.

We hope you will be here as well.

Bye, everybody.