2025.08.06: Consentual Wordplay

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For August 6th, 2025, my name is Bertie Birds.

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She always knows what date it is.

It's Ashley.

Say hi to Ashley, everybody.

It's because we're dating.

Listen, I just want to say,

I've been doing a lot of heavy lifting in this relationship.

I'm not just talking between me and you.

I'm talking to you, the listeners out there as well.

Listen, if you guys got out of bed and somebody immediately started asking you questions, like, what day is it?

You might not get that right

either.

I was well prepared to say it was August 6th, 2000.

And what day is it?

I got to be careful because I still have to put the episode up and I could typo it when I do it.

Look, anything could happen between now and

listen, it's it's the possibilities are infinite.

Anything could possibly happen.

Right.

It is Wednesday, my dudes.

This is

the year of our Lord 2025 for those who celebrate.

And I have a hot take.

What is your hot take?

I didn't feel like that.

On this Wednesday, my dudes.

This is something that I didn't feel like would be a hot take, but in 2025, it kind of feels like a hot take, weirdly enough.

Bernie, I'm excited about a Star Wars movie.

Yeah,

when you say that, I'm like, what?

No?

Okay, yeah.

No, I get it.

Yeah, right, right.

I feel like I outgrew Star Wars, but I didn't outgrow Star Wars.

It was a big deal when I I was a kid.

Like, I feel like the prequels,

that was too young for me, but it was very on brand for Star Wars.

So that was the only point in which I could say I outgrew Star Wars.

I feel like they're making it for people like me, but yeah.

I mean,

part of the trouble is they're...

I want to be like, yes, well, it's been so long since we've had a good Star Wars movie.

But the thing is, we do have good Star Wars stuff, right?

Mandalorian was great.

People have nothing but great things.

Sometimes maybe good.

Sometimes maybe shit.

People have great things to say about there's Mandalorian, there's Andor, there's, I don't know, I guess people like Ahsoka, and there's what, Bad Batch and Skeleton Crew.

There's all this stuff.

Yeah, you're naming a bunch, yeah.

And you know, so there's there's some good stuff, right?

Um,

and then there's the movie.

Is it the fans?

Is it the fans?

No, no, I here's, I don't want to blame the fans in this case, although

we, although we, you know, it always goes over so well.

It is fun to say and acknowledge, I guess, that no one hates Star Wars as much as the fans

star wars it is true um you know but i i will acknowledge that the the most recent trilogy felt directionless i feel like it had a lot of problems people were really excited but they sort of didn't plan what they wanted the trilogy to do what are you doing what is what are you doing i'm leaving this

i'm i'm getting hung up on tangents point is i'm excited about the new star fighter Star Wars movie that they're working on.

This is a Sean Levy one.

So it's Star Wars Starfighter.

This is the one that's going to be starring starring Ryan Gosling.

This is the one that's being directed by Sean Levy.

And they've also, I don't know that it's officially announced, but I believe it's at least rumored that

Matt Smith of House of the Dragon fame for you and for Doctor Who fame for me.

He's still of Doctor Who fame for me, even though I didn't watch it.

Yeah, but that's like, it's not your association, right?

You're not going to be like, oh my God, I loved him so much in the show that I didn't watch.

Well, was it Eccleston?

Is that his name?

Or Eccleston?

Yeah.

The Doctor?

Yeah.

Like, I wouldn't say he's of Thor Dark World fame to me because I've seen that movie and he's the villain in Thor Dark World.

Yeah, but you're also not going to name him of such fame for a movie that you didn't see.

I didn't see Doctor Who.

Right, so he's not Master Myth of Doctor Who fame to you.

He is to me.

What I'm saying is that I didn't, I saw Dark World.

I didn't see Doctor Who, but if you asked me Eccleston's fame, I'd say Doctor Who.

Would you really i mean he did the once season once he was really great on that he look he was leftovers was really good he was really good i loved his season but it was one season so i don't know and i'm not going to tie him to that because i don't think he wants his career tied to doctor who well let's all honor what he wants on our podcast

was a fantastic doctor who he was also great in house of the dragon he's actually in a lot of stuff he's in like some uh i don't know some movie where he's got like a mohawk or something

get woken up and know what day it is like right off the bat.

Ask him, see if he gets it right.

So I'm just, I'm excited.

It sounds like it's shaping off to be a really good cast.

I'm excited about the director.

This could be a good one.

I like Star Wars News just blazing right past.

Have I not learned my lesson?

What's going on here?

No, it's okay to be excited about Star Wars.

You can go for it.

I'm just like, I don't anticipate, right?

I feel like I've gotten to the point in my life where, like, doomsday is out there.

Coming.

GTA 6 is out there coming.

That's about it.

Like, what day is it coming?

Yeah.

Can I ask you a question?

Have you ever heard about something that's announced way out there?

Like Elder Scrolls 6.

It's a good example, right?

It's announced out there.

Do you ever ever thought in your head,

I wonder if I'm going to be alive when that comes out?

Do you ever think that ever?

I mean,

or when you get to a movie, you go, oh, I lived to see this.

Sort of, except it's like, Game of Thrones.

Right, because you read the books and then you got to the point where you saw it.

Is that like...

No, because it's like I got up current and then I'm like, oh,

it took 11 years to get this most recent book out.

Will I live to see this series finish?

Hey, let me ease your mind there.

I won't.

You're not.

I know.

I know.

I don't know that.

I've got to make peace with it.

But, you know, because it's not officially ended, there's always like that.

There's the maybe.

But you have to consider that it is because he gave them the major story beats.

Like the stuff that people really didn't like which is the big stuff the high level stuff that's what george r martin gave to them he they all said that i i know and the thing is a lot of that high level stuff i don't hate i hate how they got there they did though do everybody including the guy who wrote the source material i feel like they all did that very typical hollywood entertainment thing which is when there's a failure It's like turning on a light and the roaches scatter.

Like no one had anything to do with it.

Right.

No one, everyone was responsible for all the really great stuff and they were super excited about it.

No one was responsible for the bad stuff.

Weird.

Everybody, everybody's there for the party.

And then when something goes wrong or there's a little bit of a stink of failure on something,

I mean, like, it's like ninjas, right?

Like a puff of smoke and people are just gone.

This room was filled with people five minutes ago.

They're like, it's the UK.

We have to leave.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, occasionally, too, you get the people who show for like the Raspberry Award or something like that.

And it's very refreshing when someone does that.

I still think it's stupid.

I don't think they should have those fucking Raspberry Awards.

It's art, for Christ's sake.

Yeah, can tell you one Star Wars thing not excited about.

What was it?

They were going to have a trilogy or something that they were going to do.

That was one of the speculated reasons why they dumped Game of Thrones so quickly is they had a new deal with Star Wars and they were going to work on a trilogy.

Yeah, I got that.

And then that, yeah, that, you know, vaporized.

What are those guys doing?

Like, I used to be able to say their name off the top of my head, and I can't say their name.

The D ⁇ D guys.

David Benioff and T.B.

Weiss.

Let's see what they're doing.

Did they work on Three Body Problem?

Don't know.

I really don't know.

I really can't tell you what happened.

They just like they disappeared.

But that happens a lot.

They worked on Three Body Problem.

The Netflix series.

Like there was a period of time where

like the Bruckheimer stuff.

Do you know that what I'm talking about?

Like Simpson Bruckheimer?

No.

I mean, they made all the movies in the 90s that you associate like The Rock and Conair and stuff like that.

Iconic.

And then Simpson died, and then Jerry Bruckheimer kept going.

But after a while, like made Armageddon and stuff like that.

But then after a while, you're kind of like,

you know, you've seen those movies and it's tough for, you know, somebody who's known for a specific style of movie to keep going, you know, whether or not something goes wrong or whatever.

Great example.

There's a news article going around right now that Howard Stern has been canceled.

Well, okay.

Hold on, question.

Clarification, point of clarification.

Is he canceled like we're canceling him or is he canceled like his show has been canceled?

Either way, it's a stupid headline.

So, it's the traditional meaning of the word canceled, meaning that he's at the end of his contract and his show is not being renewed by SiriusXM.

That's all the headlines.

This is the first time I'm hearing about this.

It might have been something that people who listen to Howard Stern might have heard a lot about.

I listened to a lot of Howard Stern in the 90s and 2000s.

I don't think that guy will ever get enough credit for how much he shaped what is modern media today, especially just before the internet became a massive thing.

hugely influential guy.

And weirdly, when you talk about being canceled,

he's a weird one in that all of his controversies happen on the show.

They are actually related to what he makes and his art.

Right.

And all of those controversies are probably great for ratings for a show like that.

He was also a guy like he very famously, there's a whole biopic about him, which he wrote himself.

But it was an analysis that they did where he was enormously controversial.

When we were talking about censorship last week.

I mean, he was, when I grew up, it was like the FCC was constantly finding him, trying to get him off the air.

And there was some stat that people who loved Howard Stern would listen to him an hour and a half a day.

And people who hated Howard Stern would listen to him for two hours.

The people who hated him would listen to him more than the people who loved him.

And he would be on mic just like he would sit down in a chair.

I'd say past tense.

He's still doing it.

And he's going to.

Let me get to that point in in a second.

But I mean, it's just amazing.

He was one of those people who had an ability to sit in a chair, flip a switch, make the mic go hot, and he could just go for three fucking hours.

There was like no one else who could do that up until that point.

It was, it was incredible what the Howard Stern show meant to media, I think.

The cancellation thing, I have also been a long time Howard Stern fan.

I admit I haven't listened in a long time.

There were entire years of that show that were dedicated to him being being canceled or his contract running out.

And the show is going to get taken away.

It's going to, you're about to lose the show.

And people would tune in because, oh my God, I can't believe they're pulling Howard Stern, the number one DJ in America.

They're pulling him off the airwaves.

I can't believe that.

How are they letting him go?

It was all just like a long negotiation tactic.

And it lasted sometimes for literally a year.

So this happens all the times.

I know people are like, again, I can't believe it.

Or they're like, we finally got him for the people who hate him.

This, wait and see.

Wait, he might be, you might be hearing this over and over again for the next eight eight to nine months.

Well, maybe this is something where, like, I just don't have my finger on the pulse of

what is, you know, really major in radio these days.

Is so, his show is Sirius XM, right?

Satellite radio.

Is satellite radio still like the thing?

Because I feel like what he would be doing at you know, now in the in the current media landscape is starting a bidding war between like, I don't know, YouTube and Apple and Spotify

For who is going to end up with Howard Stern?

You're 100% correct, I think.

He will, he'd be probably would do better in any one of those other places.

I think, having listened to him, he's a very traditional guy, comes from very traditional media.

And so getting a contract from a big media company is something that he's had a lot of success doing and does very fucking well.

But I think he would do tremendously well just going out to like YouTube or Spotify or something like that and going directly at fans.

Like a lot of people would have done better maybe like 10 or 15 years ago, but still would do very well to this day.

Like, I think if he debuted on Spotify, unquestionably, number one, unquestionably.

And this is a guy who is, how old do you think Howard Stern is?

Uh,

60.

Howard Stern is 71 years old.

Nice.

Yeah, he used to make fun of a guy every fucking day on his show, a guy named Don Imus, who was basically a co-worker at the same company.

He would just rail on the dude for being too old.

I'm sure Don Imis was probably like 20 years younger than Stern is now.

But yeah, I'm sure I'm, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure he'll do well.

I'm just saying, it's like the headlines are the headlines.

If you're a Howard Stern fan and you're worried about him being canceled, don't worry about it.

And if you're a Howard Stern hater and you're overjoyed at him being canceled, don't worry about it.

It's probably not going to happen.

Either way.

Either way.

Speaking of headlines,

he will give the eulogy at his own funeral.

Speaking of headlines, right?

I'm going to read a headline to you and I'm going to let you get mad about it a hot dog spill shuts down a highway in pennsylvania commuters worst nightmare and i need to point out that this is this is a headline so worst is spelled with the you stop it

do you think it's too much it's too much there's there i feel like there's few things that news headlines love as much as a good pun or word play

wordplay is different than puns though it is i know but look they they need to bring both arts in to keep it fresh right right um do you feel like that is

an art form that's gone in the like in this current era of like you just need to make it clickbaity it doesn't need to be like fun or punny it just needs to make you mad yeah and then you click on it engage with it yep but but this is a question for you does a pun like worst in the headline does that alone make you mad enough to click on it I do think there should be a thing on every social media platform that if enough you get one click per year on a certain button, and if enough people click on it, the

person that owns the account just goes straight to jail.

That's because what you're talking about, you talk about the rage thing is bad.

I also hate the dumb stuff.

Like,

can you believe like she thought this equals this, or like some kind of pictograph, or what's the difference between these two photos?

And you're like, I don't see it.

And there isn't a difference.

They just want you to click on the comments.

You know, it's intentionally confusing or doesn't go anywhere so that you'll just engage with it.

It's like, how to,

that should be something the algorithm should be able to solve.

Like,

we should have a thing of like, we should be able to report stuff to the algorithm.

Like, you fucked up.

Right.

That's it.

You're going in algorithm jail.

That's on you.

Yeah.

Don't promote this shit.

And then,

but if you take away dislike buttons, which I get why they do, you know, because the negative effect it has on people, then it's like you have no way to like, like, downvote something and like get it out of everyone else's algorithm.

Right.

All the, all the things.

but maybe they also, the platforms, they don't care.

Why do they care?

Right.

It's engagement.

What do they care?

Right.

You're going to hate them.

You don't hate Instagram.

You hate them.

You're not going to hate TikTok.

You hate them.

Right.

Like you hate Howard Stern, you show up more.

Right.

Right.

You don't hate NBC or whatever, wherever he worked at the point in time.

So, yeah.

So maybe I'm just, I'm, you know, I'm just frustrated, but there is no solution because the solution is this is the solution.

They're making money from it.

Well, uh, speaking of uh of finding solutions, this is a big one.

This is a from head or this is a headline from AP News.

Bernie, a Denmark zoo asks people to donate their small pets as food for captive predators.

Wait, they're donating pets?

Yeah.

They're giving their pets to predators?

There's a zoo in Denmark that's like, hey, you have to put your pet down for some reason.

Give it to us and we'll feed it to a tiger.

Listen, I get it.

Do they euthanize it first?

I guess they're not.

Yes, they do.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They are.

Okay, so yes, they're euthanizing them.

Let's not, like, let's not go.

It's too crazy.

But now, because they can't, like, poison them because then it would poison the predator.

Are they just like choking them out?

Like

agent 47?

How do you want to explain to that?

You're like, oh, no, Buffy went to live on a farm.

You're going to be like, oh, sweetie, no, Buffy misbehaved and peed on the floor again.

So we fed it to the tiger.

Right.

We just went and fed it to a goddamn lion.

Look, sweetie, remember, remember how when we got the puppy, you said you were going to take it for walks every day and feed it, and you didn't, and it became my responsibility

that's the lions now it does if i may

at the risk of sounding incredibly racist this sounds like a very danish solution to problems like it's very practical yeah we need to you don't want the pet we have to feed the predators look we will have something a problem that needs solving yeah i also i should be i'm exaggerating and like they're not gonna i think like take like pet dogs and stuff but they are taking guinea pigs rabbits chickens Oddly enough, also horses.

By the way, these are all animals.

We're splitting hairs, you know?

No pun intended.

If you have a rabbit that you're donating.

But it's like,

what is it with the relationship we've got with dogs where they're off limits in these discussions?

Like, now I'm turning Danish all of a sudden.

Like, it's a guinea pig or a dog.

So, what you're saying is we should add dogs to the list.

Right.

You know?

That's it.

New headline, Bernie wants to feed dogs to the zoo.

It's not like we're dragging dolphins up on shore and feeding them to the tigers.

We're not doing that.

You know what I mean?

It's why are dogs off limits?

No, seriously, why are they?

I mean, I guess it's like,

once again, you do mention it's cultural, and I'm sure that it is, right?

Because we don't think of dogs as eatable meat.

Right.

Right?

You don't, you don't think of a dog as meat.

I'm not eating a lot of guinea pig eats.

Dog is man's best friend.

Do I want the snake or do I want the horse today?

What's on special?

You say that, but I'm pretty sure we've been to a place before that has both snake and horse sausage.

Oh, I eat snake sausage.

What was that place called that we would go to in LA?

I don't remember.

I had things like that.

It probably had a pun name.

I probably did.

I think I had alligator sausage there or something because I was like, you know what, serves you right.

Turn it out to fair play.

Everybody got to be dated for one day.

The snake, too, that was in the one I had, I think it was like four different things in one sausage, which also seems like a bad thing.

Might be like four different types of snake?

No, no, no.

It was like

boar and snake and

I don't know, fucking otter.

Who knows?

That's a lot of sausage.

It was boar and snake and independent swing voter.

Stuff nobody cares about.

Somebody who did a protest vote.

And I ate it.

I would imagine, though, whatever the other thing was, I'm going to say probably rabbit.

Rabbit, boar, and snake.

Let's just say that.

Okay.

I think the snake was probably like a touch of snake, right?

Like you get just enough to make it on the menu on that chalkboard at the artisanal sausage plate.

Well, it's one of those things, right?

Where if something is like more than 1% ingredient, then it has to be included.

So they can be like, okay, this is snake sausage.

It has 1% snake.

Do you know how much it costs to get snake?

There's not a lot of meat on snakes, right?

So it's like, you know,

you know how many snakes you have to kill to make a whole industry out of snake sausage?

Or you have 1% snake.

Do you ever get...

You play a lot of video games.

Yeah.

I used to play a lot more video games than I do.

Whenever we talk about something like this, a specific image comes to mind.

I wonder if you have anything like this.

There was a thing in Red Dead Redemption where you had to like skin animals.

I remember this.

Yeah.

And it was like, it was for whatever fucking reason.

It was a 10-second animation because they didn't want to actually show you doing it.

So they cut away where they didn't show the animal.

They showed like

spraying.

Yeah.

And it was unskippable.

And I had to see that animation probably a thousand fucking times, I felt like.

And is there anything like that in those games you play like unseen, like in your Persona Japanese RPG things, like an animation that you had to see like 20 billion times.

So it's burned.

Like, you know, when you turn off a TV and somebody got burned in it,

or you close your eyes, you still see it.

Yes, I have that.

I have that.

Yeah, I mean, there's loads of stuff.

I mean, keep in mind, I'm playing through Persona 5 again, except I'm playing a different version of Persona 5.

I'm playing Persona 5 Royal, which has new characters.

And I very happily discovered this.

I kind of thought that I'd finished the game.

No, now there's another story after the story.

I'm super excited about it because it's exactly what I want from like playing Persona 5 again, which is Persona 5, except then there's more of it.

And it's familiar, but also new.

And I'm super stoked about it.

I played it again because it came out on Xbox and now I can 100% it on Xbox and, you know, have my achievements and be like, look, ta-da, it's there.

Super great.

There is a couple things that get burned into my memory in Persona.

One of them is the dick persona.

There's a

there's a dick in a chariot.

That's like

you could use basically.

Wait, wait, you mean serious?

Oh, yeah.

Hold on.

Let me pull up a picture of you.

I'm talking about a penis in a Roman chariot.

Yeah, hold on.

Let me look up Persona.

Mara.

That's the dream right there.

That's a goal in life.

I didn't even know I had.

I mean, you said it out loud.

I'm pulling up an image of Mara.

Here we go.

What are you playing?

What is what is that?

What in the world are you playing?

The best part of that is he's now one of my best friends, and I can summon him into battle.

Why wouldn't he be your best friend?

He's a dick on wheels, literally.

So that's that's one of the things.

But there if you throw in the fact that he's a good listener, it's gonna check every single box.

He's really excited about Star Wars.

He'll talk to you all day about Star Wars and your video game news.

But I got to say, too, you talk about like you play the game, you finish the game, and then there's a whole game after the game.

I feel like we put undue pressure on video game developers in particular, that they've got to make a game that's like 90 to 100 hours.

And I know that's child's play.

I know that's the primary video game.

Players market that they're chasing there.

People are like, I only had like 60 hours.

As an adult, if a game is 20 hours, I just want to write a thank you note to the developers going, thank you for the 20-hour game.

Like I almost bitched a little bit about Blue Prince because I felt like it was a lot of fun.

And I finished it before I was like getting tired of it, which was a weird thing to do.

I did.

I gave up.

You gave up because you got tired of it.

Yeah.

I was like, I've, I asked myself, am I actually having fun or do I just think I should be having fun?

And it was the latter.

And so I stopped.

But let me ask you this.

What did you do in that game?

Did you get to the room that you're supposed to get to, the primary goal?

So that's not even, that's like, I feel like that's the first like 33% of the game.

Like most of the game, there's extra shit after that.

But it really is, it's a goal that's enough.

And it was like, at first, I was like, oh, this, this felt like I got to this goal really quickly.

Oh, no, this feels bad.

Not bad at all.

In hindsight, I like that game much better because it's like, thank you.

That was a really fun experience.

And I don't have to like.

keep it in my backlog that I have to finish this thing for the rest of time.

Maybe I'm old.

I loved when we had games.

There was like a standard for a while.

You would buy a video game.

It would have a campaign, story campaign.

That was about 12 hours.

12 hours.

Yep.

Maybe if you were shitty, the game, 20 hours.

I was about 18 hours.

And then when you were done with it, that was the complete story.

And you got the story almost like a movie.

And then if you wanted to, there was a multiplayer section, which then you could go into the multiplayer section and play to your heart's goddamn content.

You could play 20,000 hours in that if you wanted to, but it didn't matter.

Or you could play two hours in that and it didn't matter.

But the game itself was about 12 to 15 hours.

I think I like that.

I think it's genre specific, right?

I think there's, first of all, those games still exist.

They're out there.

They're like the limited campaign plus multiplayer.

They do exist.

But I also think that the like 100 hour, 150 hour games, that's me, by the way.

That's also a genre-specific thing where if I'm playing a campaign that long, it's probably because it's some sort of

really level obsessive, like RPG, JRPG type thing, where it just it's you're just battling over and over

and over and over and over.

And some people are absolutely going to hate that doing that for like 150 hours.

Me, I'm like, that's cool because you broke it up with me going to school and taking quizzes.

And apparently, riding around on a dick.

What's the mileage on that dick?

What's the miles per gallon that thing's going?

Explain to me why,

do I, should I even try to get into the lore here?

Why is it a giant penis and a chariot?

Because it's part of overall public cognition.

It's something that people think about.

Yeah, okay, great.

Somewhere Norman Reed is going, oh, God, now I got to go to work on this.

I'm not sure I'm going to be able to play this game in the UK anymore.

Right, exactly.

He's got to be in the game and then fake everyone's age verification for the game.

All right.

What else should we talk about, Ashley?

Anything else going on in the world?

Let's go.

We covered a single current event that they made the Howard Sherman.

Uh, we talked, we talked about animals in zoos, new Star Wars Starfighter, which apparently I will guarantee you've told me about that movie three different times, and every time it's like new information, I absolutely have.

It's like memento, it's like

Star Wars movie.

I've never heard of this before in my life, yeah.

This is like it's just Star Wars news.

There's my anticipation tanks have been drained for Star Wars.

I will watch Star Wars stuff when it comes out.

I don't look forward to it at all.

I don't process any coming soon news because also it's like they announce Star Wars projects, it seems like every couple of weeks and they're canceling them.

Yeah, that's one of the biggest failings, I feel like, is they announced like 8 billion Star Wars projects and then they just keep canceling them.

So there's no reason to get excited at an announcement of a Star Wars project, right?

One of the things that's exciting about this one is that it sounds like it's actually happening.

They've got casting, they've got writing, It's set to actually film.

And so, like, there's, you know, hope there.

Maybe it's worth the excitement.

But yeah,

that's caused so many problems.

I'm not going to get into it today.

We've had a lovely time talking about dicks on wheels.

Hey, let's end on a positive note.

So the exact opposite of the spectrum in Hollywood now of stuff gets announced and then never made.

That's, I don't know if that's better or worse than stuff that gets made and then never comes out.

The Coyote versus Acne movie is coming out.

Yeah, it's actually got a like it's going to theaters right started to release like images from the movie and everything like that and remember people were very upset very very upset actually that this movie was not going to come out and now it's going to come out so let's see what people let's see if people actually go see it look it it worked it is set for release august 28th 2026 all right so start your calendar so we have a wait but I have hope.

Remember, there was a, this was a big thing we were worried about with the Sonic movie.

remember there was the initial sonic movie and everyone said what the is that monstrosity boycott let's do this they went back fixed sonic and then it was like okay now let's see if people go see sonic because they made this whole hullabaloo about it not being what they wanted they went back they fixed it let's see if they now turn up to theaters massive franchise it's a successful franchise it worked so Let's see.

Maybe if we all turn up to the theater for this one, I don't know, they make a sequel.

Is that going to have to be a thing they license?

I don't even know at this point.

But let's make it a success.

We've bitched about it enough.

Since it's about a lawsuit in court, would it be Coyote versus Acme 2, or would it just be the appeal for whatever the decision in court is?

I would not want to get jury duty on that court case.

But here's a trivia question for you, Ashley.

This actually was, we talked about this on our podcast.

Do you remember the name of the production company or studio that picked up the Coyote versus Acme movie for distribution.

No catch-up entertainment.

Ketchup!

That's right.

Ketchup!

Listed here in their Wikipedia entry on Coyote vs.

Acme.

So, anyway, everybody, set your calendars for August 26th, 2026.

All right, well, I want to say a big thank you to the jury members for Coyote vs.

Acme, Reese Johnson, and Nick Cooper.

Thank you both so much for sponsoring this episode of our show at patreon.com/slash morning somewhere.

The movie actually comes out August 20th.

I had to get one date wrong today.

All right, that does it for us.

August 6th, 2025.

We will be back to talk to you tomorrow.

We hope you will be here as well.

Bye, everybody.