2025.07.16: That's MRS. Durnkensnerk To You

Listen, I gotta give a clue here now.

I don't want any more bullshit anytime during the day from anyone.

That includes me.

Hey!

We're recording the battery!

Good up!

Good!

Bird of you, wherever you are, because

it is

Morning Subway!

For July 16th, 2025, my name is Bernie Dernz.

Sitting right over there.

Bernard, Derp, Snerp.

Berby Derpishna.

Barbara Dunkelman, everybody.

Say hi to Barbara.

Dude, I panicked.

I thought you were going to have me do the morning somewhere, and I realized that I didn't ask if you wanted me to do it or not.

And so I was like, are you going to point at me?

Are you going to do it?

I did not, I thought about it last minute.

We didn't talk about it.

The guests lately have been saying they don't want to do it, which I'm okay with.

I feel like I've had my fun.

I've done it twice now.

I think.

You're saying the bit gets old?

I just don't know how to do it.

It's all part of routine.

How you doing, Babs?

How you doing, bro?

I'm good.

I'm good.

So, is

Barbara?

So, now do I call you Mrs.

Dunkelman?

Last time, this is the first time since I've seen you since you've been married, since you're a married lady.

You're spoken for.

Mr.

and Mrs.

Dunkelman.

Thank you.

Mr.

and Mrs.

Dunkelman.

Trevor Dunkelman.

Never want my last name for anyone else.

That is a curse.

It would be great if you spelled it wrong, too.

That'd be perfect.

Do we have the most misspelled names in

the group of people we do?

Dunkleman?

Yeah, people always do the Bernie with an E.

Yeah.

people always, I'm very happy when people defend me when that happens, but it's, that's the right way to spell the name.

I spell it wrong, right?

So, and some could argue that for Dunkelman, too, because there are people who are named Dunkelman in the world, but a lot of them do spell it L-E instead of E-L.

Usually Barbara spells her name with an E-L.

Yeah.

I say you like it was your choice.

You kind of stuck with the names.

Kind of born into it.

I did tell people yesterday, too, we were talking about first jobs.

And I mentioned, if I recall correctly, that your first job was working at a Burger King that was in a movie theater.

You are correct.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I applied to a movie theater thinking, oh, it'll be fun.

Like, I could work at the concessions, I could sell tickets, clean theaters, whatever.

And they're like, Burger King.

And I was like, if I wanted to work at a Burger King, I would have applied to a fast food restaurant.

Can you eat Burger King at all now, having worked there?

Yeah.

Can you really?

It's actually very clean.

They have really good standards for how they do like the prep, the cleanup, everything like that.

Very high standards.

Did you ever watch the

movie The Founder with Michael Keaton?

No.

It's about, it's interesting.

You might like it as a

person formerly of the fast food industry.

You might like it.

Because it's about the revolution of how they created this system.

I think they called it the speedy system.

Yeah.

And then how they made the burgers and everything.

Yeah, I've seen one clip from it on TikTok, which is now how I find out any movie.

But it's the scene where he goes up to the window and he's like, Could I get a, I guess, a burger and some fries?

And they're like, here you go.

He goes, well, I just, I just ordered it.

And they're like, yeah, yeah, that's yours right here.

And like, well, what do I, how do I eat it?

And you just go, you know, in your car, you go sit down and have it right now, like, whatever you want.

And his mind is blown.

Don't you love it too?

When a character or an actor in a small role just kills it?

Yeah.

Like that kid was great.

Like, he goes, in your car?

Like, whatever you want, dude.

Yeah.

He's got to be thinking the whole time.

It's Michael Keaton

the entire time.

Have you been taking part in any fast food or any local cuisine?

Dude, it's insane.

Yeah.

It is

the plane lands here and instantly gain five pounds.

So I've done, today I did a great one.

I did Delaware Subs,

which was, it's a cheesesteak place.

Oh my God.

But it's very old school Austin.

I think all the sub shops in Austin,

they were built in the 90s and then they never renovated.

Like Thundercloud?

Thunderclouds look exactly like they did when I was in college.

I am shocked at how old those places are.

Every single Thundercloud I've ever been into, I'm like, this was built in 1886.

Right, right.

People always like are waxing nostalgic about old Austin.

Then they go to Thundercloud and go, oh no, shit.

Yeah, let's clean this place up a little.

Maybe some new glass on the counters there.

Drive down like North Burnett or Burnett, sorry, or North Lamar.

And it's the same thing.

It's like nothing is more than two stories tall and there's power lines everywhere and billboards.

And it's like, yeah, this kind of sucks, man.

Everything is kind of dilapidated.

And yeah, not great.

Some old hippie just laying on the sidewalk telling you how good it used to be.

be.

Did you ever live in Austin when Leslie was here?

Yes.

I moved here at the end of 2011.

He might have been dead by then, too.

He made a documentary.

How much McDonald's did he have?

He was a Brandon Fermihini came on the podcast last week.

Yeah.

And

he was talking about local politics because he loves local politics.

And I went and looked at

turnout from local politics, like back in 1998.

And I forgot Leslie ran for mayor and got like 2% of the vote.

2%.

That's actually pretty high for what I would expect.

Well, I think like 5% of the population would vote in those elections because they were in May, according to Brandon.

Oh, my God.

He's really too tiny.

He looked great, by the way.

Yeah.

New father?

I was going to ask, did he talk about how?

He talked about it.

Yeah.

I did not know that he, I was like watching his Instagram stories and I was like, that baby he's with looks a lot like him.

Oh, you thought he was just hanging out with a baby.

I was like, maybe it's like one of his siblings' kids or something like that but no he is a he's a daddy he's a daddy and loving life loving life absolutely enjoying it how about you how you enjoy being a wife or should i say having a husband i love it just run around you give him like husband stuff to do yeah uh we we have a thing called uh husband tax where if he gets a snack of any sort oh no sorry i have wife tax so you take the tax yes i got you give me the wife tax um and to be fair we also had girlfriend tax and fiancé tax right just the way it happens now it's just more um But no, it's great.

I love calling Trevor my husband.

It's very fun.

Are you one of the girlfriends/slash wives who, when you go out to eat, you're like, oh, I don't want anything.

And then you sit there and chew off their plate.

Okay.

Yes, sir.

I always order what I want.

And then I like to do the thing where I tell Trevor, this is really good.

You should try some.

And then I share my plate with him.

Right.

Like a good wife.

And then he'll share his food with me.

Yeah.

That's a dangerous game, though.

I know.

Because if the other person has a better plate, then you have envy.

And you're like, oh, I made the wrong choice.

That happens with drinks.

With drinks.

More than anything, yeah.

Yeah, but I don't know.

Well, I always get the same drink, I just get the thing.

That's my that's my thing about the hit list coming back to Austin.

Like, if you were away for a while, uh-huh, like when you go when you go back to Canada, is there where do you go in Canada?

The Burger King at the movie theater, do you go there just to check in on it?

Uh, no, like, I used to work here, like, get this lady out of here.

I know, I'm like, could I go back there and just cook myself up a whopper?

Uh, but no, I say, like, Tim Hortons, I guess, is like the only thing that I'm a little nostalgic for.

But even now, it's like, it's just okay.

I mean, it's always been just okay.

So it's, I don't know if there's really any food that I'm nostalgic for in Canada that I can't get here.

Well, let's say I was coming to town.

Ketchup chips.

Oh, get out of here, please.

Or all dressed chips are also very good.

What are those?

It's just everything.

What does that mean?

Like everything bagel or like a baked potato, loaded baked potato?

Maybe closer to loaded baked potato.

Okay.

I feel like it's like all the flavors in one chip.

It's very good.

Sour cream, bacon.

Oh, yeah.

All that stuff.

I'm drooling.

I'm so hungry.

I'm like, let's keep talking about food.

I love it.

Korean barbecue.

There's a billion flavors of chips in the UK.

Do you have a favorite one?

Not really.

Have you ever tried turtle chips?

What's a turtle chip, right?

Don't even try them because you will be addicted to them.

Okay.

Now I got to guess.

Does it taste like a turtle?

No.

It's a brand.

Oh, okay.

Turtle chips.

I believe it is a Korean snack.

They are a type of chip.

They come in different flavors.

The sweet corn flavor is very good, but there's also like churro flavor.

Sweet corn.

Wow.

They are the most light and fluffy chip you will ever have.

They're like layered.

They're so good.

Turtle chips.

Yeah.

Oh, I can get them on Amazon if I want to.

Get on Amazon.

I think you could get them at World Market here in Austin.

If anyone's listening.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Dangerous game to play.

Like you said, don't do this.

I'm immediately like adding the cart right now.

I'm going to buy these.

But my hit list is always the same.

It's, I got to go to Thundercloud.

I went to Delaware just because I remember they had good cheesesteaks.

They're down to one location now, I think, too.

Jeff and Gus and I used to go there when we worked at the call center together.

We'd go.

Thundercloud, I always have to go to.

Barbecue places are always, if you had to go to one barbecue place, where would you?

I mean, I really like Rudy's.

Okay.

No, it's good.

It's just, it's consistent and it's close.

You know, you could go to a Rudy's anywhere in Austin.

It's easy to take it for granted.

Yeah.

Because it's everywhere and it's consistent and it's good.

Everyone wants their like little artisanal.

Of course.

You got to go through a back alley into a food truck or some shit.

Yeah.

Mine is style switch.

I got to get that beef rib.

We were talking about earlier this week.

And then

I will end up at Uchi at some point, which is a sushi place, but it's weird.

I go to a sushi place in Texas so that I can eat the Brussels sprouts.

It's weird.

So I'll do that.

They're really good Brussels sprouts.

No home slice on this trip.

Hey, you know, home slice is great, but sometimes you're just not really into pizza, you know?

I have my like waves of being into pizza or not.

Like, sometimes I want it every day, and sometimes I'm like, I have no craving for it whatsoever.

Did we talk about this last time?

No,

so I went to Home Slice.

I always make sure I have coins on me when I go there because it's like, I'm not some places just higher likelihood someone's going to stop and say hi.

Yeah.

And so Bernie, I think it meant like money.

Yeah, I didn't know I used to have it.

I throw them like a ninja

while they're scattered.

I run.

Play a little nickel game.

But by the way, one of the things we're going to talk about Emmy nominations at some point today.

But I went to Home Slice and and some guy there goes, hey, Bernie.

And I go, yeah, hey, how you doing?

Really nice kid, said hi to him.

And then he talked about Blaine and how Blaine goes all the time.

I was like, oh, yeah, Blaine loves this place.

I'm sure he's in here all the time.

He goes, yeah, he's in here a lot.

So I get my pizza and I leave.

Two minutes down the road, I get a text from Blaine.

And so I have the car read it and it goes, hey, I heard you spoke to my buddy so-and-so.

And you were at Home Slice.

And I'm like, yeah, I was.

What's going on here, bud?

Do you have like a red phone that connects you to Home Slice?

Yeah.

And like, it was instantaneous.

He knew about it.

Like, my location was reported to Blaine.

I'm like, you have a really close relationship.

I was like, yeah, is he texting Blaine?

Are they like buddies?

Or was Blaine at Home Slice moments after you picking up pizza?

I imagine Blaine is like Spider-Man at home and he's like tingling.

He's like, what?

Someone was there.

The red phone lights up.

He picks it up.

Bernie, home slice.

What do you get?

Mushroom and pepperoni?

Good choice.

Excellent.

Just had to confirm.

I love Blaine, obviously one of my best friends.

Love working with him.

Love the friendship we have together.

He is one of the most creature of habits people I've ever met.

Like he has, he does his like home slice on this day, and they do like this type of food on this day, and he loves this this way.

And it's just a very, in a good way, set in his ways, knows what he likes, knows what he wants to do, kind of guy.

Fitness people usually are like that, too.

I appreciate it, yes.

But he always had that, where he would get a full home sliced pizza every Sunday and Eat the whole goddamn thing.

Yeah.

I was always impressed by that.

It's someone who has a lot of willpower in other ways that then just indulges.

Yeah.

And he also, he has now a running bit on this podcast where we just review weddings.

I know.

I listened.

Were you okay with our review of your wedding?

My only problem was it wasn't long enough.

Did we say it wasn't long?

Oh, the review wasn't long enough?

Your wedding wasn't long enough.

Well, both.

But the review itself, I was like locking in.

I was like, so excited to hear about your take on the wedding.

And then I was like, oh, that's it.

That's it.

Oh.

Then you guys went on and talked about other stuff.

Oh, did we?

Well, we didn't want to beat the bit to death.

No, you could have.

We could have.

Well, I think the thing is me being the bride and one of the people who planned the wedding.

So I'm like, okay, we spent all this money on this wedding.

Okay.

We want people to talk about the colors.

Talk about the details.

What did you like?

What'd you not like?

Did you enjoy this?

Did you enjoy this thing that we planned here?

And so I think.

What do we leave out?

I don't know.

Nothing, really.

really.

You talk about it.

Sparklers at the end?

I don't think we talked about the cake because you guys did a thing which people are doing more frequently.

Frequently.

Frequently.

Alumnone.

We are.

People are doing the cake cutting in private.

Yes.

I also feel like I should clarify something here.

Uh-oh.

Years ago, I told a story about being at the Joneses wedding.

You did.

And Monty was there.

And I convinced Monty because it was easy to convince almost convinced

that he was allowed to cut the cake and have a piece while we waited for them to take photos and that he was stopped.

And everyone keeps calling me out on this as a horrible person and a terrible thing that I did.

I would not have let him cut the cake.

Right.

You would have stopped him before it got too far.

Right.

We know for sure it didn't happen.

Or if he did it, you would have just turned the cake around so that the piece he cut.

What a great of a story would that be, though?

Like they come in and Monty's got a piece of cake.

I think that would have been, I would have preferred that.

It would have been a memorable thing.

And, you know, if Monty was still with us and told the story, he'd be like, yeah, that was the day I didn't get some cake.

You could still be mad about it.

I've had a fresh piece and I didn't get one.

They had to go in for a photo.

But it's interesting.

Do you think there's been a backlog?

We can't really...

I'm going to some more weddings, and it seems like there's a trend lately.

There's a trend lately where

it's two weddings in the same month.

Like it keeps happening again and again.

Where I'm going to be going later this year, I'm coming back to Austin because I got to go to a wedding early in the month.

And then there's one later in the month as well.

Is this October by mentioning?

It is October.

Yeah.

You did guess.

This is October.

We don't want to spoil anything.

That's a little teacher for you.

But yeah, so I wonder if there was a backlog because of COVID, but we got to be past that at this point, right?

Yes and no.

I mean, I know that Trevor talked about how he would have proposed to me probably a lot sooner, maybe even during like 2020 if it weren't for COVID, but he didn't want to have to like celebrate without any of our friends and family.

Yeah.

And then also we wouldn't have been able to do a wedding anyways, the one that we wanted at least.

I know somebody had a huge wedding planned.

Yeah.

And it just got canceled because of COVID.

Just done.

Awful.

I cannot even imagine.

Like the stress and money that goes into wedding planning, having COVID be a factor in that would have been an absolute nightmare.

This was a gay wedding, too.

So it was.

Extravagant.

Yeah, it was probably like everything planned down to the minute and everything.

Just like ours.

Gay wedding.

They, yeah, they had to cancel it, which I mean, like two days before

people were getting on planes and going to it and all that.

And it's just like, that sucks.

That sucks.

Was that like around like March, April of 2020?

Man, I can't remember, but yeah, it was around there.

It was around there.

Yikes.

And then

they came back around and rescheduled a smaller ceremony.

Yeah.

Guess who didn't make the smaller rescheduled cut?

You're looking at them.

Oh,

they got a, they got hurtful.

They got a loud gift.

Actually, they had a very good gift.

They got the gift of like the, oh shit, we should have invited him gift.

That's what I did.

That's the move.

Like, oh, just give me your registry.

I'll buy you something anyway.

There's a lot of people who came to our wedding who did not give a gift.

What?

Are you serious?

I did this.

They have six months.

Do you know that's the etiquette?

Okay.

You know?

So that is the thing.

Like, I did mine,

I think I did ours after.

Yeah.

Did I?

Like, like two or three days after or something.

Like right after, yeah.

Yeah.

So, and it was one of those things where you're sitting around talking like, oh, fuck, we got to do a gift.

But also, like, if people traveled for it, I didn't expect anything from that.

But it's a lot of people.

No, you shouldn't.

A lot of people who were local, but also a lot of people who.

Name names

i'll tell you after girls bill your tea there's a lot there's a lot uh but also i can bleep it i won't but i could also say

you're like yeah we're done recording stop recording all right who did it so what you got married can you is it okay to say the date now yeah okay what's the date you got married april 26th so they have until october okay end of october to get that gift in that's the etiquette is six months yeah six months we still have our registry up on the website they might be fuming from that private cake cutting

But we gave them McDonald's after, so, you know.

Did we talk about that?

No, I don't think so.

I don't think we talked about that.

Yeah.

Our late night snack.

Right, as we're all drinking a lot, you know, late in the evening, suddenly they start showing up with plates and plates of chicken McNuggets

and sauces.

Yeah.

So did you, did you not get an endorsement from Burger King?

Do you feel like you...

Did something go wrong?

Do you want to talk about it?

When you've been drinking, and maybe dancing or whatever, having a good time, there is nothing that hits quite like chicken McNuggets.

It's true.

And french fries.

It's true.

Yeah.

And so it was probably the cheapest thing we did at the wedding, to be honest.

I think feeding everybody chicken McNuggets and french fries was, I think, $190.

Get out of here.

For like our 130 guests that we had.

While we're talking about all this stuff and you working your first job at Burger King.

Yeah.

I don't really know if this is the case.

I don't know if you know either.

Has Canada.

kept up with minimum wage?

Like, how much did you make?

Do you remember at your first job?

When I worked at Burger King in the movie theater, I was making $10.25 an hour.

Canadian.

Canadian.

That seems amazing to me.

And I heard that American minimum wage at the time that I was working at age 15, 16, 17 was $7.25.

Barbara, it's still that.

It's still that.

It still is.

It still is.

That's fucked up.

Minimum wage went up.

When I was a minimum wage worker, I think it went up like four times.

Like in the five or six years I was working minimum wage jobs.

Yeah.

And I started at like $3.35 an hour and then it went to $3.75 an hour.

And then it went to $4.25 an hour.

Think about going from $335 an hour to $4.25.

Yeah.

You know, that would be like going from seven bucks to $12.

You know what I mean?

It was a big jump, man.

It was a really big jump.

And that was over.

And then I think it went to $475 from there or something like that.

And it was crazy.

And you can make the argument, yeah, people pay more than minimum wage, but it doesn't matter.

If that's the case, then why not raise minimum wage?

Why not?

Right?

If people are already paying more than it.

I mean, at this point, it has to be what

17 to keep up with the way inflation has gone yeah we were talking about mcdonald's uh ashley saw a job where the minimum wage or the sorry the starting wage for it was 15 bucks an hour which is like 32k a year you know us

so that was interesting so not really still still not livable no no probably not livable uh as an individual but i'm it's like it is a job to be fair that you associate as being a starting job true right i mean it's not like and that's also the starting wage too you know, very true.

If you move up in the speedy system, you know,

you could become founder of the company that already exists, just like that movie told us about.

You could eat it anyway.

Do you know has Canada kept up?

Has Canada made changes to mine?

I actually don't know.

I haven't looked it up in a long time.

But yeah, minimum wage, I think, was $10.25 when I was working.

That's what I was making at least.

Do you find you keep up with Canada less over time?

Absolutely.

Yeah, I'm doing that with the U.S., man.

I mean,

I'd like to keep up with it more.

Who knows?

I might have to go back at some point.

You're all settled, though, right?

You had already had permanent residency before you got married.

I do have permanent residency.

So he can't like hold that over your head.

Nope, never.

Although I have been considering getting my citizenship.

Interesting.

Would that require you to revoke your Canadian citizenship?

I don't believe it will.

I think I could be dual.

If it did require it, I would not get rid of my Canadian citizenship ever.

So I would stay as a green card holder.

I think the reason I want to get citizenship is because I don't want there to be any stipulations to my ability to live here.

So I think if you leave the country for, I think it's three or six months, you could lose your green card status, your permanent residency.

And I don't want that to be a thing.

I'd also like to be able to vote.

I'd like to be able to participate in, you know, the democracy in this country.

I consider you to be politically active.

And it is interesting that you are politically active, even though you you cannot vote.

Yeah, I think I can get it now because I've had my green card for more than five years.

Well, can't you just apply as a married as well?

You could go that path instantaneously, right?

Not for citizenship.

Okay.

I think if I didn't already have permanent residency, I think I could now be eligible for it because of marriage.

You'll have to take a test that none of us could pass.

Right.

Right.

That's the silliest thing ever.

Dude, I think about that a lot.

It'd be interesting to like give that test to people who are at like an anti-immigration rally and go like, how much do you know about the state?

Here's the test for citizenship.

Give it a shot.

Let's see how you do.

Tell us about the Constitution.

I imagine if you got

deported because of that, like as an American citizen.

The other weird thing, though, is

that's kind of a moving target.

Like even birthright citizenship is on the chopping block, which I have to point out, we all have our citizenship via birthright because we were born here, right?

And there are different flavors of

right.

But you go back far enough, Everybody in America is an immigrant at some point, you know?

And

to take away birthright citizenship, I think just opens a Pandora's box that nobody wants.

100%.

Nobody wants.

Yeah.

So in the U.S., it's kind of weird.

I've heard that, because this is now a thing for me.

It's easier to keep a dual citizenship if you go away from the U.S.

Like when you get your U.S.

citizenship, they require you to give up your former.

But like for me in the UK, if I tried to become a UK citizen, then I could could possibly keep dual citizenship.

Yeah, there's also I keep seeing these ads when I fly on planes

What is the name Malta?

It's in the EU.

Oh, and you can just pay to get an EU passport like you can get citizenship in Malta.

Can you send me a link?

Yeah, but it's like ridiculous.

You know,

it's still cheaper than most places.

Like New Zealand, they used to have some rule that if you had like 250,000 New Zealand dollars in the bank, that was a path to citizenship.

But because of now the demand of people moving there, especially New Zealand, it's over like $2 million.

Oh my God.

That's one of the dirty parts of immigration everywhere.

Yeah.

Is at some point you can just buy it.

I mean, the U.S.

is doing that with that gold card thing, right?

Well, yeah.

Look at this, there's a couple immigrants sitting around talking about.

But I think that's like the reason I want to get my dual citizenship is so that I have that freedom to kind of go back and forth if I wanted to.

Yeah.

Like if I ever found myself back in Canada, I would want to be able to come back to the States at any point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't want to be like, oh, well, I've been in Canada now six months, and so I'm no longer a resident of this country that I live in.

I don't know.

Right.

How much Burger King can you eat in a movie theater, right?

Before it gets old with your ketchup chips.

It's just a reference to everything.

Back at the, working back at the movie theater.

That's what I'm going home for, baby.

Make my minimum wage.

So is it okay to say this?

One of the things that tend to use a lot is the H-1B visa.

That was your visa.

That was my visa.

To work with rooster teeth.

You would know that very well.

I would know that very well.

Spent a lot of time with you and Gavin doing your visas.

I remember being up in the middle of the night with, for some reason, with you guys on chat.

Yeah.

And we were refreshing the Visa website.

Do you remember that?

I think it's because we knew that they had the application and they're like, your result, like results, the answer will be.

available like in the next 24 hours or something like that.

I forget what exactly it was, but we knew the results for it were coming soon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We did did some heads up or something like that so we sat there f5ing like remotely and i got mine first yeah you got yours first and then gavin was like it's not gonna happen that's it it's over

moment of panic and then he was fine like very quickly thereafter yeah yeah and it all worked out that was a long process though man it was and i'm very appreciative of you guys going through it for us yours was a little bit easier than gavin's but not much not much because of nafta right yeah they was already uh it was pretty well established immigration from canada and uk as well you know but

it was still harder for Gavins.

Yeah.

Harder.

There wasn't the H-1B, right, that we could do for him for some reason or something.

He had to do the 0-1, I think.

Yeah, we had to prove that he was a

being of extraordinary talent or something like that.

Jury's still out on that one.

Yeah, we'll see.

So good job, America.

Kidding.

Love you, gubs.

So you got a guy who's now sticking his finger up his butt or something for,

I don't know what they do over there.

Is that something on regulation podcasts?

I don't know, something like that.

They're getting waxed or something like that.

Oh, yeah.

It's always something to do with butts or bathrooms.

Every time I wash my butt, I think about Gatton.

Because let me preface this.

Gavin said he, like, when he washes his butt, he like karate chops the water in it because he doesn't want to touch his anus.

Correct.

And that, so every time I wash my butt, I think about Gavin.

Okay, let me ask you this as a lady.

I would always ask you lady questions.

Like, I got to know what's going on on the other side, on the other team over there.

Do you ever talk to women and they fret about using different towels for different parts of their body?

No.

You know, guys do this.

I don't know know if you know this or not.

There's some guys who will not use the same towel to dry their face that they use to dry their balls.

Like

getting out of the shower.

But why, why are guys so worried about that?

Like, I don't do that, and I never thought about it.

It's a towel, and I'm just got out of the shower.

I'm right.

Also, dry your face first.

Why not?

Yes.

I'm not like flossing.

But also, like, all your bits are on the outside, and you supposedly just cleaned everything.

Never understood it.

And there's probably people listening going, oh my God, no way.

No way would i ever use the same towel i mean i probably wouldn't like clean the inside of my butthole with a towel and then wipe my eyeballs right like there yeah i get that but i use a toothbrush for that

for both

it's a different toothbrush which one's first they're the same color and i get them mixed up sometimes

brown eyes brown toothbrush

all the bristles are bent

all right should we talk about the enemy said get one current event in here fine all right so today uh earlier today we're recording this tonight.

They made the Academy of Arts and Sciences for Television.

I don't even know if that's the name of their organization.

They did their Emmy nomination.

Let's hit some big categories here.

Yeah.

Outstanding Dramatic Series, Andor, The Diplomat, Last of Us, Paradise, The Pit.

I want to see that.

Severance.

Yay.

Solo Horses.

And White Lotus.

I think the only thing on here that you would have seen that I haven't seen is White Lotus.

I actually haven't watched this season.

I watched the other two.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not the third, though.

I don't know anything about it.

So it seems to me like it's like those movies by

Ryan Johnson, like the onion movies, you know, where they get a group of people together and they solve a mystery.

Is that what Lotus is?

And it's different every season?

Kind of, not really.

Okay.

It doesn't really seem to be the people trying to solve the mystery.

It just kind of unfolds within it.

The first two seasons, there's some connective tissue, but not much.

They're each their own story.

Do you recommend?

Yes.

Okay.

It was fun.

It's definitely like

intense.

Paradise is a weird one on here.

Paradise, okay.

I have a really weird experience with the show because Ashley was watching it.

And it's kind of one of these like, kind of like weird mystery box shows, a little bit, like post-apocalyptic or something.

And then she said to me, she goes, if you can get to episode seven, it's amazing.

It's one of the best episodes of TV ever since.

You can keep these papers in there.

Yeah, you can keep it.

You can get the actual paper.

I'm going to write it down.

We're old school here.

Episode seven.

What to.

I think it's episode seven.

I'll send you the actual episode.

And I said, I'm not doing that with another digital series.

I'm not like sticking with it until episode seven.

So I said, you know what?

I'm going to do?

I'm just going to watch that episode.

And she was right.

It's an amazing just by itself.

Okay.

It's an amazing episode of television.

So here's the thing about helping with these Emmy nominations and giving my opinion on them.

I haven't seen a lot of these things.

And I am a huge, huge Severance fan.

So I'm going to put Severance for probably every category.

By the way that's also how a lot of voters work yeah honestly that's why you're always like how did this like big name thing won when this performance was made because because all the voters knew the big name thing yeah right that's true that's why it wins but that i mean that being said i might be biased severance deserves all the friggin awards dude it's probably my favorite tv show ever made

I will say I agree with you.

Severance is an amazing show overall.

End of sentence.

Great job.

Thank you so much.

I agree.

Thanks for joining us, everybody.

We'll be back.

The

Severance Season 1 was fantastic.

Severance Season 2 is, I think, gaining a lot of benefit for how good Severance Season 1 was.

I agree.

Andor, I think, is the opposite.

Andor Season 2 was amazing.

Amazing.

I'm not even done with it yet, but it's even like the cultural zeitgeist around Andor Season 2.

It's a Star Wars series.

Yeah.

You know, it actually is like getting an award during its peak, I think.

Andor.

Yeah, I know Trevor loved Andor, so.

Did he?

Yeah.

All right.

So outstanding.

So you're doing Severance.

I'm going to say Andor for mine.

I'm going to say Severance.

So neither one of us were saying Last of Us.

Last of Us, I loved the first season.

We haven't watched the second season yet, and I've heard that it's kind of disappointing a lot of people.

It is, yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Outstanding comedy series.

Abbott Elementary, The Bear, hacks.

Nobody wants this.

Only Murders in the Building.

Shrinking the studio and what we do in the shadows, which I'll be honest, I was surprised to see that was still, you know, in the running for Emmys at this point.

They just had their last season, I believe.

Yeah, i thought that was long done actually yeah man this is a tough one i know people really like the bear abbot elementary 2 won a lot last year i heard a an interesting side note probably was on the podcast for i'm gonna try to pronounce the actor's name mark prox who plays uh the energy vampire in what we do in the shadows once again tick tock reels right that's how i i've consumed a lot of that show tick tock reels tick tock uh whatever shorts there you go yeah

it's on the tiktok ram.

But

he said that he had a bit part in one of the late seasons of The Office, and he's all over this What We Do in the Shadows.

He said he made more from just that little tiny role in the office versus like the much bigger role that he played on What We Do in the Shadows.

Surprising.

You know, those late season shows, there's a reason why they last even after Steve Carell leaves.

You know, there's a lot of money left in those shows.

Yeah.

Residuals and all that stuff.

Also, got to call out the bear is nominated for comedy series again.

That continues to be a weird thing about the bear.

It's a drama, is it not?

I have, I've watched many episodes of that show and I've never thought, this is a great comedy.

Ha ha!

Yeah,

it's so tense.

That show is tense, man.

I hate anxiety shows, but I adore that one, man.

It's great.

We tried to watch the first episode.

I couldn't get into it.

I want to try again because I know it's very good, but it's the reason I didn't like Uncut Gems, that movie.

It's so much.

It's overwhelming and it makes me stressed out.

It is.

If you did a double feature of Uncut Gems, and then there's a Robert Pattinson movie called Good Time.

Yeah.

If you uncut jacks.

Uncut gems.

If you did those back-to-back, you would have heart attack.

I probably would.

I would have heart attack.

It's awful.

So Only Murders in the Building is great.

But I love the studio.

I'm going to go with the studio.

The studio?

I've heard that's really fantastic.

That's Seth Rogan.

Yeah,

it's great.

I'm going to give it to the bear personally.

Just, I don't think it's a comedy, but I just remember it winning so many awards last year that I think they might try to do it again.

All right, I'm going with the studio on that.

What was your show?

You got Severance for

Outstanding Drama?

MM shows.

Andor.

Okay.

All right.

We'll go for Faster 3Ds.

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series.

Sterling K.

Brown, Paradise.

Gary Oldman, Slow Horses.

Pedro Pascal, Last of Us.

Adam Scott.

Severance.

That's my answer.

No Wiley in the Pit.

I just got to see the pit.

I loved ER.

I'll go with Pedro Pascal.

Okay.

Although, is he getting nominated for the first season or the second season?

I imagine it's the second because does it have to be stuff that's come out this year, this calendar year?

I don't know.

Because I know that is for Austin.

There is a deadline, yeah.

There's like a time frame on it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Outstanding lead actors in a drama series.

Kathy Bates for Matlock.

Sharon Horgan for Bad Sisters.

Britt Lauer for Severance.

Bella Ramsey for Last of Us.

Or Carrie Russell.

Love Carrie Russell for the diplomat.

I love Carrie Russell and Felicity, man.

Yeah, she's great.

There's Carrie Russell and J.J.

Abrams.

That was one of the first things he ever did.

Really?

Felicity.

I think Britt Lauer is great in Severance.

I think she is too.

I'm going to go with Britt Lauer.

That character is so great.

Like, even her walk.

And also the way she portrays both

Helly and Helena.

Yep.

It's the subtlest difference, but it's so good.

It is.

And I'm, again, biased.

I haven't seen a lot of these other shows and a lot of these other actors.

So

outstanding lead actor in comedy series.

Adam Brody.

Nobody wants this.

Seth Rogue in the studio.

Jason Siegel in Shrinking.

Martin Short, Only Murders in the Ability, or Jeremy Allen White in the Bear.

i might give it to shrinking jason seagull i'm gonna go with uh jeremy allen white for the bear he's so fucking good yeah he's really he's really compelling looking too he looks like a like a 1970s movie star like a james conn or like he gets compared to gene wilder a lot of all people there's a lot of actors these days that are

so attractive but they're so ugly Yeah, I get it.

And I don't say that in a mean way.

Well, I do.

I guess ugly is never a nice thing to say, but like he's one of those people where it's like, you just see him and it's like, this is not how an attractive person typically looks, but there's something about him that's very attractive.

Right.

You wouldn't draw him on paper.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I get what you mean.

But there's character to their face.

I just saw Gene Wilder in something.

And it was the same way.

I was like, yeah, this guy's a, was a major movie star.

Yeah.

And he's not like, he's not a tremendous looker, but any stretch of the imagination, you know?

It's just so interesting.

I always think about like older movie stars all looking like John Hamm, you know, like real like rugged and robust.

But you go back and look at them.

It's like Marty Feldman, who was in stuff with Gene Wilder.

i mean it's it you know he was a weird looking dude you know what i mean but people loved him like benedict cumberbatch another example yeah where it's like kind of an odd looking dude but very handsome somehow i just saw him in the phoenician scheme and it's like the way his character is presented if you think he looks odd normally The entire time he's on screen, I'm just laughing at him.

It's just like, I couldn't even, I don't even know what his character said because I was giggling the whole time at how ridiculous he looks.

Yeah.

Looks amazing.

He's just a unique fella.

All right.

So outstanding lead actress in the comedy series.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kristen Bell for Nobody Wants This.

What do you say?

Uzza?

Uzzo?

Uzzo Aduba for the residents.

Quinta Brunson, Abbott Elementary.

Oh, these names are all hard to pronounce.

Ao Edibri, The Bear, or Gene Smart Hacks.

I don't know anybody in these things.

I don't know who AO plays in The Bear.

I'll have to look that up.

I think she's like the Sioux chef.

Oh, is that right?

I might not be far enough into that.

I think I'm going to put her.

Okay.

And I don't know how to pronounce her name, unfortunately.

All right.

So, anything else I want to call out here?

How about this?

This is a great one.

Outstanding support actor in a comedy series.

One of the people in here is

Bowen Yang on Saturday Live, who I love, that guy.

So good, but I have to.

Tramel Tillman, dude.

Oh, is he on there?

As Milchik, Outstanding Supporting Actor in Drama Series?

No, I'm on Comedy Series.

Tramel Tillman, yeah.

I hope he wins.

Even though people like, he's up against Sam Rockwell, John Toturo.

There's two numbers.

And Zach Cherry.

And Zach Cherry.

Yeah.

And then Walton Goggins, man, that is a packed category, dude.

James Marsden in Paradise, also a great performance.

Man, I would not want to vote in that one, dude.

There's three White Lotus, three Severance, and one Paradise actors.

That says a lot right there.

Look at outstanding supporting actress in a drama series, too.

Patricia Arquette, Severance, Carrie Kuhn for White Lotus, Catherine Lanasa for the Pitt, Julianne Nicholson Paradise, Parker Posey, Natasha Rothwell, and Amy Lou Wood, both for the white lotus.

The outstanding supporting actors and actresses, those are stacked categories, dude.

No kidding.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

Catherine Hahn is even in for outstanding supporting actress in a comedy series, and she's up against Catherine O'Hara.

Oh my God.

These are insane.

I almost want to just close my eyes and go, beep, beep, beep, beep.

I mean,

supporting actor, supporting actor in a comedy series has Harrison Ford in it for Christ's sake.

Oh, from shrinking, yeah.

Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't.

He's up against Bowen Yang.

So I don't know, man.

I love Bowen Yang.

It is really cool that somebody on the Second Live cast got an Emmy nomination.

That's pretty cool.

That is very cool.

He's very talented, though.

Did you see him in Wicked?

I didn't see Wicked.

Okay.

I didn't see it.

I'm holding space for the sequel, Minimal.

I'll go see it though.

I don't even know what that, what does that mean?

I don't even know what it is.

I don't know what it means.

It just means you're like,

is that like conscious and aware?

Yeah, I guess so.

you're centered you have like room in your thought process for this thing okay in your mind i don't know i really don't know i have to keep up on therapy speak now like it's part of our common i feel like this is more of a gen z speak than anything well i just think therapy like vocabulary like works its way into general conversation now you know

you know and i'm assuming holding space is a therapy thing like you're manifesting it right now yeah a couple years

yeah

yeah so people are like i don't have the spoons for this yes yeah yeah

Then I got to go look up what the spoons are.

And then, like, the younger people who worked at Rooster Teeth, they would say, like, you know, don't yuck my yum.

It's like, I get that.

That one makes sense.

Like, that's not as old.

That's an

or that's not as new, I guess.

That's an older phrase.

Is it?

Yeah.

Yuck my yum.

Don't yuck your yum.

Yeah.

I go the opposite when I'm pissed off about something and try to make me happy.

I go don't yum yum my yuck.

Go yum my yucks.

Yeah.

I tell you what, I hit eject.

I'll be honest here.

I hit eject on therapy talk

when I started to hear about toxic positivity.

I was like, okay, now positivity is bad.

I got to hit eject.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, no.

Some things get taken a little too far in my opinion.

All right.

So anything else you want to talk about here?

I do want to give a shout out to somebody in particular, fellow Austinite.

It is outstanding performer in short form comedy.

Tom Segura got nominated for an Emmy.

Oh, shit.

Yeah, for his Netflix special, I'm assuming, Bad Thoughts.

And we actually know some people, some people we worked with at Rooster that worked on that.

So that's really fucking badass.

That's got to be a really great day when you hear that Emmy nomination.

Also, my former alma mater, The Amazing Race, got nominated for best reality series again for like the billionth time.

Well, I don't know if it could beat Love Island.

Is that nominated?

I am happy to see that the year that we were nominated, that my season was nominated for an Emmy for The Amazing Race, we lost to the fucking voice.

And they're not nominated this year.

So guess what?

Guess what?

Doesn't matter.

I don't know.

Survivor is still one of my favorite reality shows.

Yeah, that's The Traitors.

Traders.

Top Chef, Survivor, RuPaul's Drag Race, and The Amazing Race.

So, listen, I'm just biased, and I will own my bias and say I'm rooting for The Amazing Race.

Yeah, I would say Amazing Race, Survivor would be my other choice.

Survivor's a great show.

It's just, it's just consistently good.

All right, Barb, thank you for joining us.

I'll keep a tally of all this, and we'll see who won.

I gave my three opinions that we want to call it.

Severance.

Anything else on here that you you want to call out at all?

I do want to call out.

We just started watching the rehearsal season two, the pilot one.

Oh, that is Nathan Fielder got nominated for directing.

Comedy writing, comedy series, and directing?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, he's,

it's such a good show.

It's such a good show.

It's

a little scary sometimes watching that show.

I don't know how else to put it.

It's sometimes like, how did this happen?

Yeah.

How did they do all this?

And that one where he like learned to pilot a plane and everything by exploiting a loophole.

Yeah.

It's insane.

We're still in the beginning stages of it.

No, I mean, that's, I kind of know what happens to a degree, but the purpose behind it, I think, is, is very touching.

Touching, maybe not the right word, but it's nice that he is like given this money to do a show on HBO and is actually trying to do some good with it.

And he is, I will say this, it is one of those shows when you watch the first episode, you're either completely hooked and you love this show or you know it's not for you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's it's not a show you have to watch for seven episodes.

I would would recommend watching the first season before the second because there are some things that happen in the second season that relate to the first.

Okay.

For example, this won't spoil much, but there is a, in the first season, they have to recreate this bar.

Right.

That bar comes back in season two.

Right.

And it's so funny because we were watching.

It's like, oh, that's the table that they were sitting at for that moment, that scene.

That's so funny.

That bar.

And that's, that's one of the moments when they walk into that soundstage.

Yeah.

And the bar is in there.

And you're like, what am I watching?

Yeah.

Like, is it, Are they there?

And the participant must be, what is even the right word for the people, the candidates or the contestants?

Yeah, you know, what is even the name of that person?

The players, the actors, right?

The subject

of Nathan Fielder's focus for that week.

When he walks in, it's like, he's like, he kind of more takes it in stride than I did.

I was like, what the hell am I seeing that they built this?

But

have you ever watched his other show, The Curse?

Yeah, we got mostly through it.

I think we're maybe two or three episodes away from the end of it.

It's a weird show, dude.

You know, Nathan Zellner.

David and Nathan, they, I think, are the only people who have directed any episodes of that besides Nathan Fielder.

I did not realize that they directed on that.

I wish I could tell you off the top of my head which episodes they directed.

I'll be honest, I haven't seen that series.

It's a, it's very good.

It's just so.

uncomfortable.

Yeah.

That's like the best way I could describe it.

I want to watch it, but I also don't want to like dwell in envy of Nathan and David.

Like you want to support your friends, but not too much.

Let's not go crazy with support.

Yeah, exactly.

There's a limit.

All right.

Limited.

All right, Barbel, thank you for joining me.

You are off to pretty soon, I've seen you're heading off to Gen Con with your Stinky Dragon podcast.

Our first convention together as an independent company.

Oh, who all will be attending?

It'll be myself, Blaine, Chris, Micah, and Ben.

Okay.

Yeah.

A good little group going.

And then I could probably say it here, but we're also going to be at PAX.

Oh, you're going to be at PAX?

You're going to go to PAX in Seattle?

Yeah.

Oh, that's awesome.

So are you happy to get back to conventions and everything?

I've been doing a couple for Ruby, but this is, I guess, a different capacity because we're actually like doing DD at the show representing Stinky Dragon, which is great.

So when you have a panel, will you be performing?

Like, will there be a...

The one at Gen Con, we're doing a one-shot.

Oh, great.

Okay, that'll be fun.

And I'll be playing Elga.

Little Elga Von Bruv.

Will Micah be there with like a synthesizer in the background?

Gotting all the sound designs.

He's going to be DMing for us.

Oh, that's great.

That's great.

Because he writes all the campaigns, right?

He does.

Yeah.

He's also experienced DM.

More DD experience probably than anyone in the group, maybe except for Gus.

Right.

So watch out, Gus.

Yeah, exactly.

I should have attended Gen Con.

So and then when is PAX?

That'll be August.

End of August.

End of August.

Yes.

Got it.

Like a busy cone schedule again.

Look at you.

We're going for it.

Yeah.

No, everything's going well with Stinky, though, and we are just excited to be doing what we're doing.

And where can they listen to the Stinky Dragon podcast?

You could listen to that on all podcasting platforms as well as on our YouTube channel.

But the best way to support us is on Patreon, which you could get to at stinkydragonpod.com.

All right, well, Barbara, thank you for joining us.

Mrs.

Dunkelman, as always, thank you for joining us on the Morning Summer podcast.

All right, well, that does it for us today, July 16th, 2025.

I'm going to be back with another guest tomorrow.

I hope you'll be with us as well.

Boy.