2025.10.31: No More Days Til Halloween

Speaker 1 Good morning to you wherever you are because it is Morning Subware for October 31st, 2025. My name is Bernie Burns

Speaker 1 sitting right over there. She's going to have her mask on in front of her TV for the giveaways night.

Speaker 1 Ashley Burns. Yeah, Ashley.

Speaker 2 I feel like I just missed a reference.

Speaker 1 Do you recognize the drop?

Speaker 2 I do not. Okay, so.
It sounds like it's from a scary movie.

Speaker 1 You are correct. It is from a scary movie.

Speaker 2 Because it's too cheerful.

Speaker 1 Maybe not a scary movie, though. It's from Halloween 3, Season of the Witch.

Speaker 2 Okay, aren't the Halloween movies solidly in the horror classification? Wouldn't that make them scary movies by default?

Speaker 1 Tell me what the Halloween movies are about.

Speaker 2 They're about a dude with a knife who goes around stabbing people. Basically, it's like London.

Speaker 1 Can you name the guy?

Speaker 1 Not Jason. His name is? Shouldn't know this.
It's not Freddie.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 1 Bernie.

Speaker 1 I'm pointing at myself. Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 Remember the scene in Baby Driver when they're supposed to have Michael Myers masks?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, that's right.
Michael.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they get michael myers masks okay no that helps that's such a great scene that's such a great scene so halloween one yes arguably started like the like 80s slasher trend of just like let's kill teenagers horrifically and then show those movies to teenagers and expect those people to grow up okay uh this halloween was in the 70s that's like the whole thing though like i feel like

Speaker 2 And that's maybe changed now, like with, you know, weapons and some of the other horror movies that we've been seeing.

Speaker 2 Uh, but it seems like putting teenagers in mortal danger, everyone is on board with.

Speaker 2 The teenagers are on board with it, their parents are on board with it. Just put them in mortal danger and let the shenanigans flow.

Speaker 1 You're either a teenager or a former teenager watching those movies, and you're like, Yeah, I'm totally fine with teenagers dying.

Speaker 2 Or it's your parents taking you to see alien when you're like four.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, my brother got to go see Halloween, which was a big deal.

Speaker 2 How old was he?

Speaker 1 My parents were not discriminating when it came to, they were like the NPA ratings, flex.

Speaker 1 No, yeah.

Speaker 1 So he got to see that, and I was not allowed to see it because it was too scary to see it.

Speaker 2 Parental ratings. Next thing you know, we're going to be in a communist country.

Speaker 1 We also all went to go see The Omen. Remember that movie about The Possessed Kids? Yes.
Because Damien and The Omen looked just like my brother. We had very different coloring growing up.

Speaker 1 I was this blonde, what did they say, toe-headed kid, and he was just like freckles and... dark hair.
He looked like the kid from the shining or the kid from the omen.

Speaker 2 So you went to watch movies where dangerous things happen to kids that look like him?

Speaker 1 I'll refer to my previous statement about my parents not being

Speaker 1 very discerning when it came to what we watched.

Speaker 2 And I feel like there were a couple of like mental hurdles to jump through because they wanted to go see the movie and they were like, yeah, this will work.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to multiply the cost of the ticket by therapy.

Speaker 1 20 years down the road.

Speaker 1 Therapy, not in that day, anything. Halloween one.
That's 20 years later. 40 years later, therapy starts.
Halloween one was Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 If you went back and watched it today, classic horror movie, it probably seems like ridiculously stupid now. It's just a lot of Michael Myers standing around.

Speaker 1 Or there was this thing where killers never ran in Halloween.

Speaker 2 They walked, right? Well, it's kind of like the terror of the slow zombie. It's not that they're coming for you quickly, it's that they're coming for you inexorably.

Speaker 1 Relentless. Yes.
It's called like the Pepe Lepe syndrome. Pepe LePue never runs, it just hops along.
It always catches up somehow. So that one's scary.
Jamie Lee Curtis was in that.

Speaker 1 I think it might have been her breakout role. And then Halloween 2 was the return of Michael Myers and all that.
It was scary. People could argue whether or not they liked one or two better.

Speaker 1 I can't tell you what happens in either one of those two. He's just trying to kill dude with knife tries to kill him.
Basically, he's like the Terminator, like going after this one lady, right?

Speaker 1 And it's just like he's not going to stop till he gets to this one lady.

Speaker 1 Halloween 3.

Speaker 1 No Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 It's about a corporate plot to get kids to buy one of three masks. It's a silver shamrock company.

Speaker 2 Is it the Mike Myers mask?

Speaker 1 No, no, one's a witch, one's a skeleton, and one is a pumpkin, I think. And then they're going to have a big thing on TV at nine o'clock, a big giveaway, and all the kids have to watch it.

Speaker 1 But then that song sends a signal to their masks and turns their heads into bugs.

Speaker 1 This is all from memory.

Speaker 2 Well, that's how you profit.

Speaker 1 But it was really weird because it was everyone knew Halloween because Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 And then it's like if Friday the 13th was there was like a street race movie in the middle of it somehow or something like that.

Speaker 2 Right. It's this.
This is the Tokyo drift of the Fast and the Furious.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the Tokyo drift of a Halloween franchise. Exactly right.
My brain was probably trying to make that connection. It's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 Halloween 3 Season of the Witch is the Tokyo drift.

Speaker 2 of the horror franchise.

Speaker 2 Well, what that sounds like to me is some people got together and they wanted to make a horror movie, but they couldn't get it sold until they said, oh, it's a Halloween movie.

Speaker 2 And then the studio is like, Oh, Halloween, great success.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. Property laying around, just label it as Halloween.
We'll just expand what the franchise is.

Speaker 2 Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it was, uh, I had a friend in university.

Speaker 1 He lived right across the hall from me, and he started what I thought was an incredible tradition because, like, 80% of that movie is that jingle that played for the drop.

Speaker 1 But it's like, it starts 10 days out from Halloween. It's like 10 more days till Halloween, Halloween, Halloween.

Speaker 1 Nine more days till, and at this beginning bit here, I'll play it again. I know it's annoying.
It's annoying by design.

Speaker 1 So that lead-in right there, and that's on Halloween. It plays the happy, happy Halloween.
But then it's like nine more days to Halloween, eight more days to Halloween.

Speaker 1 But the bup bup bup bup bup bup bup.

Speaker 1 Some point in the lead up to Halloween, he had all different versions of the song for each day, and he would crank that. And you'd hear all of a sudden in the hall,

Speaker 1 and everybody would come,

Speaker 1 you'd hear doors flying open, and people were running down the hall to like jam into his room and they'd all be screaming this song at the top of their lungs oh like in a good way like this was like an impromptu like jam okay i was expecting like fucking god trevor i'm trying to sleep you ever see that that video that i love that ted talk about how to build a movement and it's the guy dancing on the hill and then like one or two people show up and start dancing with him and then there's like 10 people who run over and start dancing with him and then there's people flooding across the hill to get in on this dance party because they don't want to be left out.

Speaker 2 I didn't know that was part of a TED Talk, but I have seen the video.

Speaker 1 It is, I think it's one of the best TED Talks ever in terms of like how to build a movement,

Speaker 1 you know, talking about audience and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 It's like, you need the first dancer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the keynote that I did at VidCon one of the years, the one that always gets quoted, that was very much inspired by that one as well.

Speaker 1 Talking about like the, you know, the big numbers that everybody talks about in online media of like a billion this and a trillion that or whatever.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it doesn't like, if you have like 20,000 people, it's, it's incredible to have that, you know?

Speaker 1 But it was really based on that TED Talk, how to build a movement or inspired by it I should say and yeah, and and Hibby his name is David Hibbets We don't give him the best nickname ever hibby and uh

Speaker 1 and he got him and his roommate were singing it like the first uh or somebody next door to him were singing it the first couple days and then like some more people came and then like literally by Halloween like three days before Halloween everyone was like just racing down the hallway and it was not at a scheduled time he would just start playing the

Speaker 1 and everybody would go shit they'd like throw their books or whatever you know i love it or their porn movies that they were downloading to train their AI.

Speaker 2 My dude, my dude,

Speaker 2 I saw the most ridiculous headline that I'm so happy about. Here's the headline: this is from TechSpot.
Meta denies torrenting 2,400 porn movies for AI training. Says they were for personal use.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's talk about that for a second.

Speaker 2 Okay, no, I mean, I did download them, but no, I was definitely not training my AI chatbot on porn movies. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 They were for

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 They were for jerking it at work? That's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 1 They were. Right? Because it's meta's a company.

Speaker 2 Personal professional purposes.

Speaker 1 Right. So what they're saying is that people at work are downloading pornography for personal use.

Speaker 2 Yes. So this is after being accused of illegally torrenting pornography to train its AI systems, Meta is asking a court to throw out the case because the content was likely for personal use.

Speaker 1 We always said that.

Speaker 2 Meta also claims there's no evidence of it using adult images or video to train its AI systems.

Speaker 1 We always said that having a podcast was like the best get out of jail free card for your search history because you can search for anything.

Speaker 1 Like I've had to look for how many people get killed in Brazil.

Speaker 2 How to dissolve a body. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 We got to look up all these things. How to get kids to watch a broadcast and turn into bugs.

Speaker 1 So I can always explain anything away in my search history by the fact that I have a podcast and I have to talk about random stuff.

Speaker 2 Who knew that training in AI would be the actual get out of jail? Yeah, it's like, no, no, no, this isn't for me. This is for my AI.

Speaker 1 What a weird, like, they must have sat in a room and like weighed the different ways to spin this, right? I guess saying that they download, downloaded, downloaded.

Speaker 1 Download.

Speaker 1 They downloaded the

Speaker 1 porn videos.

Speaker 1 If they said it was to train their AI, then they're running the risk of a lawsuit from the porn companies, which I guess is greater exposure than saying that they're downloading, as a company, they're downloading porn videos at work for personal use.

Speaker 1 The fuck is that?

Speaker 2 Like, who's who's doing that?

Speaker 1 Is it one person? Is it like one guy's office?

Speaker 2 They're like, yeah, Frank has.

Speaker 1 Or they're just like, if they have an open policy of everybody download, I say download again. Download pornography if they want.

Speaker 1 Weird thing.

Speaker 2 What a weird thing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know what? Just go wild.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's, I guess the speculation is that this means it's for like some unannounced um ai project focused on um adult interaction that they haven't yet announced and so it's like they this is better than them admitting it but also

Speaker 2 when it comes to like you don't mess with porn companies That's like a weird thing, right? Like they drive a lot of technology. You watch out for the porn companies.

Speaker 2 They were one of the major deciding factors between the Blu-ray and HD DVD, right? They like, and was it also like VHS and was a Betamax?

Speaker 1 Just working from memory, they were first in magazine subscriptions to the home. They were the first in VHS rental.
They were some of the first online video.

Speaker 1 Like they have always kind of led the way pornography into different technologies. I would love to see the search history on that too, right?

Speaker 1 I just love it.

Speaker 1 What are the titles they download?

Speaker 2 That was the go-to defense. No, no, it's just for it's just for our employees.
It's for personal use. You know, the titles are funny, though.

Speaker 2 One of the, um, I almost, as a kid, when my head was a bug, I was very nearly exposed to

Speaker 2 a porn video because, do you remember back in the day, there was a special section of the video rental store that was only for adults. You had to be 18 or over to go into this video section.

Speaker 1 It had the greatest of all security methods, the curtain.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or like the glittery curtain

Speaker 2 or like the bead curtain or something. You have to like go through the bead curtain.

Speaker 1 A thin veneer of fabric.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 But I guess sometimes those videos got misshelved because a lot of times the names were puns on the non-porn video they were based on.

Speaker 2 Your girl here really liked to rent Flash Gordon.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah, I know what you got.

Speaker 2 I would rent that movie all the time. I loved the like hammy sci-fi.
That was so much fun.

Speaker 2 Until one day I got home and I was like, I was like, oh man, so this one's like,

Speaker 2 there's a typo on this one. And my stepdad is like, what? And I go, yeah, it says it's Flesh Gordon.
He goes, no, that's going back.

Speaker 1 Really? And they rent that to you? Yeah.

Speaker 2 In Utah? Yeah, it was on the shelf in Hastings book music video.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 2 But it was, yeah, it was just behind, you know, because they had all of the like, the copies of the VHS or DVD or whatever it was behind like the picture on the shelf.

Speaker 2 And so I guess just I picked up that one, probably their only

Speaker 2 second copy, their only non-illicit copy. And I accidentally rented Flesh Gordon.
And I didn't even get to watch it. Oh, well, what a shame.

Speaker 1 I don't think you missed much. You want to watch it? We can watch it together today.

Speaker 1 80s porn is 74 minutes.

Speaker 2 I don't need to watch it because Meta AI has got me covered.

Speaker 1 Somehow it's creepier and weirder than modern porn. Somehow.
Somehow or some way. But that is you.

Speaker 1 I think that you experienced the 1980s equivalent of the URL that has expired and is going to a different porn location now. Right.
That was pre-URL. You did that yourself, which is a straight up pun.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 changing gears from pornography and tech companies to a kids' holiday. Quick question for you.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Trick-or-treating is tonight.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm putting you on the spot here. Okay.
Best Halloween candy. Oh.
Worst Halloween candy.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, I think the more or less universal answer for the worst Halloween candy is candy corn.

Speaker 1 I'm with you on that corner.

Speaker 2 Which I don't think is a thing here. So we're not going to have to worry about that one tonight.
But

Speaker 2 it's weird. I actually like eating candy corn, but only because it's the three separate layers.

Speaker 2 And I like seeing if I can get all of the color from one layer without getting any of the color of the next layer down. And yes, I realize how stupid that sounds.
And it is absolutely that stupid.

Speaker 2 But that is the only fun I could find in in eating candy corn.

Speaker 1 It sounds like your favorite flavor is OCD. So it sounds like to me.

Speaker 1 I didn't see a YouTube video where someone could take candy corn in a hot pan. This might be kind of dangerous.
Use tongs if you want to try this.

Speaker 1 And they can make essentially a Michelin star restaurant dessert by melting in a circle a candy corn. It makes like a web of sugar, and then they pull it up under one of those like little web skulls.

Speaker 1 There's actually sugar in that stuff? In candy corn?

Speaker 2 I assumed it was all wax.

Speaker 1 It's nothing but sugar and wax, I think. I don't know what is the

Speaker 1 actual substance of candy corn.

Speaker 2 It might be wax, right? But best, let's see, what's the best? I mean, best is obviously full-size candy bar of any kind.

Speaker 1 I have a different worst. I hate they don't really put the worst candy ever is necko wafers, but they don't put those.

Speaker 1 It's like somebody took a piece of sidewalk chalk, you know, that thick chalk, and they just slice it up. Sliced it up, yeah, somehow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and they were like, this will do.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's terrible. Uh, but I would say Halloween candy, occasionally you get those like from old ladies, like the the white nougat with like the colored center.
It's just like, it's such an old candy.

Speaker 1 Disgusting. Disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, it's gross.

Speaker 1 Also, toys. Some people give away toys because they don't want to give away candy.

Speaker 2 I don't like those people. No, I'm just waiting for the drugs.
All right.

Speaker 2 Every year I hear about like all the drugs that the kids are getting and their Halloween candy, and I'm still waiting for that to turn up.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're saying because it's drugs where you came from?

Speaker 2 No, I'm just saying that, yeah, if it's like drugs or whatever, it's like they're putting drugs in the candy. It's like, no, no, no, that costs money and you don't get to to see the payoff.

Speaker 2 So no one's going to do that.

Speaker 1 So your favorite Halloween candy is heroin. Black tar heroin.

Speaker 1 I always heard it was just like poison or like objects, like needles or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like razor blades and apples.

Speaker 1 And it's one of those things that happens with, there's actually, I think, a razor blade apple thing in Halloween. I think that might be where that comes from.

Speaker 1 I'm not kidding in the movie. I think that might actually exist in that movie.
But best Halloween candy, go.

Speaker 2 A full-size Kit Kat.

Speaker 1 Full size, it's always full-size, isn't it? Full-size Kit Kat.

Speaker 2 Well, there's something, it's because the full-size candy bar also feels like you hit the jackpot somehow, right?

Speaker 2 I mean, I actually love minis for candy bars because for me, as an adult, it feels like the right amount of candy, right?

Speaker 2 Like, I'm happy to have like just, I just wanted one bite of sneakers, and then I'm good. I'm set for a little while.
It's like, good, I got, I got my hit.

Speaker 1 The comeback kit of Halloween candy to me is the Nestle Dark mini bar, right?

Speaker 1 That's, I feel like there's a, there are Nestle chocolates that are never available outside minis in halloween mix nestley dark would be one of those but i have seen a full-size nestle dark bar i don't think they make it anymore it's just dark chocolate as opposed to milk chocolate and the minis they would show up every now and then and kids be like uh

Speaker 1 now it's like holy cow this is the greatest candy ever made of all time yeah dark chocolate dark chocolate and mustard are like two things that Over your course of your life, you learn to appreciate more and more.

Speaker 2 Maybe because your taste buds wear out. I definitely like dark chocolate a lot more than I like milk chocolate.
Now, milk chocolate feels weird on my teeth. Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, no, it's weird. Also, we're in a place where the chocolate is a different composition than it is where we grew up.

Speaker 2 That's true. It doesn't have like that acid in it.

Speaker 1 Inarguably, it's better here. Gavin was always right about that.
But it's still just different. So there's an uncanny valley.
Mine would be Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.

Speaker 1 If you can get a good Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.

Speaker 2 Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. Yeah, no, that's a nice one.

Speaker 2 And especially if they're, they say they're shaped like a pumpkin, right?

Speaker 2 The packaging shows like a happy pumpkin Reese's, and they aren't like that at all.

Speaker 2 And that's fine because they still taste great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I love them. All the different like varieties.

Speaker 1 I think of all the different holiday Reese's variants, I think I like the Easter egg one the best because it's just a massive wad of peanut butter.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but then is the ratio off?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 No. Reese's did something great where they just like somehow find a way to combine sugar and peanut butter together and make their own thing.
They call it peanut butter, but it's not.

Speaker 2 It's not, though, because you can get Reese's peanut butter and

Speaker 2 it's not the same.

Speaker 1 Or when you're a kid and you have a chocolate bar and you're like, check this out. And you go and get a jar of peanut butter.

Speaker 2 And then you just like start scooping. Like you

Speaker 2 use it like a chip and dip.

Speaker 1 And you think it's going to be amazing, but it's not.

Speaker 2 It's still good, though. It's not, it's not Reese's magic good, but it's good.

Speaker 1 It's, yeah. So Reese is doing something else there.
They're saying peanut butter and chocolate, but there's something else doing some heavy lifting in that relationship.

Speaker 2 There's about 2,400 porn movies in it.

Speaker 1 Right, for personal use.

Speaker 1 For personal use. Anything else going on in Weird Tech World? There was like a couple of people who are in the world.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 there's another smartphone manufacturer that says they're now going to start doing ads on your locksphere.

Speaker 1 Fuck off, dude.

Speaker 1 Is the smartphone free?

Speaker 2 No, but it's like a sort of like mid-level base level.

Speaker 2 There are a couple of different manufacturers apparently that have started doing this, generally not in the U.S., but this one is probably going to hit the U.S.

Speaker 2 But there's an Android company called Nothing that specializes in like sort of sleek,

Speaker 2 sort of like a sleek experience, right? Like that's what instead of like having the super, super powerful hardware, they want you to have a nice minimalist experience.

Speaker 2 Except if you don't buy one of the like expensive versions, you're going to start getting ads.

Speaker 1 on the lock screen.

Speaker 2 Right. Which for a company that specializes in like not bothering you seems very bothersome.

Speaker 1 Seems pretty bothersome to me as well. On your lock screen, also, I look at my lock screen about four seconds.
I use it to check my clock, and that's it.

Speaker 1 Or I hold my phone up and instantly it goes to the front page.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, there's been stuff like that before. I don't know if they still do it, but like Amazon's Kindle, the book reader,

Speaker 2 has or had an ad-supported version that was significantly cheaper. And when you had the Kindle was turned off, it goes to like a standby e-ink screen, and they would have ads.

Speaker 2 Like that would be be an ad, right? So, and again, you look at it for about two seconds as the whole thing's like powering up.

Speaker 1 Also, I don't consider an ad to be something, even though it is, by definition, advertising a product on the same platform. Like I use Audible a lot.

Speaker 1 And when I'm going to listen to an audiobook, if it shows me other audiobooks, I'm okay with that, right? That's very targeted.

Speaker 1 If they show me like coffee makers and things like that in Audible, that makes no sense to me, you know?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but what are they going to show you? Smartphones?

Speaker 1 No, yeah. What I'm saying is that when they show me books, when they show me something that's diegetic to the experience I'm having at that moment.

Speaker 2 Well, the interesting thing about what nothing is rolling out as well is it... A lot of people might not realize at first their ads.
Let me read this. This is from Life Hacker.

Speaker 2 Added in Nothing OS 4.0 late last week. When turned on, the feature will show you one of a rotating selection of wallpapers, which all feature linked content via text at the bottom of the image.

Speaker 2 So a wallpaper showing a strawberry Sunday might look spiffy, but in practicality, it's essentially an ad for a page with a strawberry ice cream recipe. Okay.
And this is,

Speaker 2 it's.

Speaker 1 Is that an ad or is that like an algorithm for content?

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess.

Speaker 1 Can I buy the Sunday? Well, probably

Speaker 2 if someone's

Speaker 2 paying for the placement to get people through to this recipe page, right? Then that would qualify as an ad.

Speaker 1 Actually, I asked a specific question. Can you answer? Can I buy the Sunday? Can I watch this Sunday? Or can I buy the Sunday?

Speaker 2 That depends. Is it for personal use?

Speaker 1 No, this is to train an AI.

Speaker 1 An actual idiot.

Speaker 2 But no, you know, on the back of the AI talk, NVIDIA,

Speaker 2 which is one of the companies that's been benefiting the most from the AI bubble,

Speaker 2 has become the first company to close above a $5 trillion

Speaker 2 market cap.

Speaker 1 Which is weird because that's the entire company which is driving the huge AI bubble, as everyone is calling it.

Speaker 1 And Elon Musk wants a pay package that is $1 trillion, one-fifth of the market cap of NVIDIA as a whole.

Speaker 2 It's NVIDIA is insane when you look at like their valuation charts. It's just like where that company is is

Speaker 2 I mean it has to be a bubble, right? Like that cannot be sustained. Well, trillion?

Speaker 1 Once we move to a new Ilion, then it's like the other stuff doesn't matter. Like the million doesn't seem to be a thing that even moves the needle anymore.
Guess not. Which is insane.

Speaker 1 That's insane to me. A kid, when I was a kid growing up, you heard about somebody being a millionaire.
That was the monopoly guy, right? Right. You're like the person in the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no one with more money than the millionaire than the dude with the monocle in the top hat

Speaker 1 but i i mean i guess it depends how you're going to spend your trillions of dollars of market cap though like netflix apparently they're actually looking at uh buying a warner brothers i think that one actually makes sense to me because netflix is a huge platform right now for delivering content But Warner Brothers just has so much IP that they could use for it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess Netflix has spun up its own production facilities and studios, but it's hard to argue with like the sheer wealth of IP that would automatically come with Warner Brothers Discovery.

Speaker 2 Can you imagine if Netflix got its hands on Harry Potter?

Speaker 1 Netflix, by the way, is about to debut Stranger Things season five.

Speaker 1 Stranger Things as a show began when Obama was president.

Speaker 1 And they're just now getting into season five.

Speaker 2 Oh, and

Speaker 2 the Witcher season four is out. Is it out?

Speaker 2 Season five, whatever. New season of The Witcher is out.

Speaker 1 Are we going to...

Speaker 1 Is it four?

Speaker 1 This is the one. Whatever, the replacement.

Speaker 2 The one with the Hemsworth.

Speaker 1 The swap out.

Speaker 2 I kind of got to watch a little. I have to watch a little bit of it.

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you? You love the show. Why wouldn't you want to?

Speaker 2 I love the idea of the show, but I have people are saying that besides Hemsworth, he's not the problem with it. It's the problem with it at this point.

Speaker 2 It's like convoluted and messy and doesn't know where it's going. And a lot of people are like, I don't know, maybe it sounds like it kind of is like the books then.

Speaker 1 Well, also, the series itself has a history of making

Speaker 1 out-of-the-box casting choices with like Triss and Jennefer.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess that's true.

Speaker 1 They were wildly different. So why, why can't

Speaker 1 Geralt of Rivia, why can't he have a weird casting thing as well? Not weird, isn't the right way to say it, but out of the box.

Speaker 2 Sure, like let's go in a different direction with it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't don't know that it's that.

Speaker 2 If it's good, I'll watch it. I'm definitely going to check it out.
I guess it dropped yesterday.

Speaker 2 So I'll at least like check it out this weekend and see what we're looking at. But reviews have not been great.
They haven't blamed Hemsworth. They've blamed the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Freddie Wong has a new Kickstarter that's starting up and he

Speaker 1 did a big video on Rocket Jump and he was talking about they have a weird history with Witcher where they were in the works of trying to develop it. You should go watch the video by Freddie.

Speaker 1 He explains it's pretty interesting. And then it kind of turned into this huge calamity for them.
Oh, man. They got a Hollywood-like agent level.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can laugh about it now after the fact, but it must have been a nightmare at the time.

Speaker 1 They almost got a credit in the Netflix series. Really?

Speaker 1 When I say almost, that's part of the story. You should go check it out.
And also, you can learn about Freddy's Kickstarter as well. No, that's awesome.
Crowdfunding.

Speaker 2 All right. Well, I want to say a big thank you to our spooky trick-or-treaters today, Bingo Bango and the spookiest Dan Fedinishian.

Speaker 2 Thank you both so much for sponsoring this episode of our show at patreon.com/slash morning summeristeat.com, purely for personal purposes.

Speaker 1 I want to hear from everybody: what is the weirdest, like Halloween 3?

Speaker 1 What's the weirdest standout from a franchise where all of a sudden, in the middle of a run of movies, they just decide to go off a totally different direction and then go back to what was working for them before to this weird outlier.

Speaker 1 All right, well, that does it for us today.

Speaker 1 Happy Halloween 2025. We will be back to talk to you on Monday.
We hope you will be here as well. Bye, everybody.