2025.11.17: The HUCTOFCHVSOTTEAHUBOW Award

Speaker 1 Oh, hi, yo.

Speaker 1 Hey! We're recording the podcast! Gut up!

Speaker 1 Good morning to you, wherever you are, because it is Morning Subway!

Speaker 1 For November 17th, 2025, my name is

Speaker 1 Bernie Burns, sitting right over there, number 117. It's Ashley Burns.
How to Ashley, everybody. Wait, what?

Speaker 1 It's 1117.

Speaker 2 1117.

Speaker 1 I guess

Speaker 1 November 7th

Speaker 1 and January 17th would actually probably be Master Chief Days. You know how they have like, we passed a Mass Effect Day.
We did.

Speaker 2 That's November 7th. That's N7.

Speaker 1 N7. That makes sense.
Well, actually, I mean, that could be Master Chief Day because it's 11-7,

Speaker 1 depending on how you do it.

Speaker 2 So do you think they have like all these

Speaker 2 backroom meetings, right? Like at least corporate meetings being like, which one of us gets the day?

Speaker 1 Right. Like,

Speaker 2 do these, it's like split custody like every other year. It can be Mass Effect Day, but then we're going to need it for Master Chief Day.

Speaker 1 Well, when did the May the 4th become a thing? Because I was a Star Wars fan for a long time. And May 4th being May the 4th, Be With You.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I lisped the entire way through that.

Speaker 2 Followed by Revenge of the Fifth.

Speaker 2 That's the thing about those is

Speaker 1 they will mess up how you talk for a little while and you have to think about it again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like May the 4th will be with you.

Speaker 2 And then Revenge of the Fifth.

Speaker 1 When did that start? Revenge of the Sis. Because I feel like I learned about that like seven years ago.
Like after the prequels, definitely. So that would have been into the 2000s.

Speaker 2 It's got to have been around the time that everything started having its own day, right? Like they're like, oh, well, Nintendo gets Mar-EO Day. That's March 10th.

Speaker 1 You know what I think about the propagation of information in the modern era versus back then?

Speaker 1 I think about this every time Star Wars comes up is that David Prowse went to a convention, which back in those days would have probably been in a ballroom and a hotel or something like that.

Speaker 1 And it was in the paper. It was in the newspaper.
He straight up spoiled the biggest spoiler in the history of cinema months before the movie came out. Like he directly said it.

Speaker 1 And you can read the newspaper article where he spoils

Speaker 1 spoiler alert for Empire Strikes Back, 1982 or whatever. What is it? 1980 for that one.

Speaker 1 Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father. He told the fans that.
Like he laid it out and everything and they just printed the paper and nobody knew about it and everybody when they saw theaters was like

Speaker 2 How is this possible?

Speaker 2 Because unless it like ended up on the what national cable news, which it wouldn't at the time

Speaker 2 right then how long would that knowledge have taken to get around? Yeah, right. It would have taken at least until the movie came out.

Speaker 1 Your aunt would have clipped it and sent it to you, right?

Speaker 2 I know you love Star Wars sweeties, so I cut this out.

Speaker 1 Couldn't even have made a copy of it. Like,

Speaker 1 you couldn't take a photo of it on your phone and send it to someone. You would just read it to someone over the telephone on long distance.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what are you going to do? Like, are you going to run it across your works copy machine and then drop it in the mail? What are you going to do?

Speaker 1 Probably weren't like certified to use your Xerox machine at work or something.

Speaker 2 Right. That's naughty business.

Speaker 1 Right. I mean, yeah, that would have been the only place if you worked in an office that had a photocopier.
Did you ever see the old sketch? I don't know who made it. I think it was,

Speaker 1 was it Vice who made these? Where they would take transcripts from court and turn them into videos. Oh, I love those.

Speaker 1 And you're talking about the one I'm talking about is the one about the definition of a photocopier. It's incredible.
It's incredible. It's one of my favorite internet videos of all time.

Speaker 2 We'll see if we can find this, put it in the LinkedIn.

Speaker 1 Oh, it'll be easy to find. It'll be easy to find.
Yeah. But a lot of news over the weekend.
Yes. Should we talk about your stuff or my stuff first?

Speaker 2 I'm going to talk about my stuff first. Go for it.
Because, you know, we're going to start off, we're going to have a little fun this morning. We're going to play a game, Bernie.

Speaker 1 We'd love to play a a game.

Speaker 2 This is the box office game. There are two movies that came out this last weekend: The Running Man.

Speaker 1 We're playing the box office.

Speaker 1 November. Okay.

Speaker 1 We should move this up

Speaker 1 in the schedule. Okay.
Box office, November, the second weekend of November. What do we got?

Speaker 2 Two movies came out. The Running Man

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 Now You See Me Three. Now You Don't.

Speaker 1 Oh, is that out this weekend? Is Stranger Things still not out yet?

Speaker 2 No, we talked about this, Bernie.

Speaker 1 It comes on November 25th. I'm not allowing that to stick in my head.

Speaker 2 December 25th.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 December 31st. I got to call something else out here, which is done really well.
I tried to point it out to you.

Speaker 1 I have a theory.

Speaker 1 They have done something to where now ads, the moment you get your thumb anywhere near an ad while you're scrolling, they have figured out, at least for me, how to do it to where it automatically triggers the ad.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing it all the time. And I have other people, every time I mention, just going, I'm having the same thing.
Really? Ads are triggering all the time.

Speaker 1 I tried to show, we did a project with Finn this weekend where where we're building a model and we were going to look at spaceships on Pinterest.

Speaker 1 I couldn't scroll through it because it kept popping up ads. After the third one, I literally just said, I'm done with this, and I deleted the app from my phone.

Speaker 1 Don't blame you. Pinterest is out of my life.
Pinterest is dead to you. Yeah, yeah.
Fuck you. You don't get to do that, man.

Speaker 2 All right. So for the next wedding invitation, don't send us a link to the Pinterest mood board because Bernie won't be able to see it.

Speaker 1 By the way, somebody last week, I should look up the name once again.

Speaker 1 Somebody said they actually got an invitation to a wedding recently that the attire note was, this is a dark cocktail event what is dark cocktail what does that mean um that says to me blacks maroons navies um don't bring any of your mints in here that shit is not gonna fly okay that says to me i'm sending a gift and i'm gonna wish you well that's what that says

Speaker 1 i'll be at home watching

Speaker 2 watching college football i'm trying to segue into my stuff but go ahead no we're playing my game first okay so um running man now you see me three now you don't both came out which one do you think won the box office this weekend

Speaker 1 what do i think won the box office is the the star power of glenn powell or whoever the fuck is in now you see me three the guy from social network i guess yeah yeah yeah yeah uh eisenberg right yeah um

Speaker 1 my guess would be running man but i've read like like mediocre stuff about running man like middle-of-the-road stuff on running man you mean like review-wise yeah but you know yeah but you say that like that hasn't a dramatic impact on box office.

Speaker 1 Weirdly enough, too, Long Walk, which is another recent Stephen King adaptation.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's either people who were connected to the source material or who were the target initially of the source material, the novella,

Speaker 1 that loved Long Walk. And some people are like, what was the point of this movie? I don't get this movie at all.

Speaker 1 Like, even where they're talking about the cast, they just recently submitted the entire ensemble for awards, like acting awards. I assume that would be Oscars at this point.

Speaker 1 and people like why like who what what there's some people who just don't get it I'm getting that same sense with Running Man like they're like oh this is really cool or people like why did he do this or why did he do that you know well it's got to be honestly it does have to be uh

Speaker 2 an interesting time because when that came out right as a book it did a lot of predictive things like uh you know predicting sort of like the reality television and that sort of genre of stuff now it probably feels a lot less groundbreaking Before we get too far away from it, though, I did a tangent on top of a tangent, on top of a tangent.

Speaker 2 Only that many?

Speaker 1 The thing I've got to call out that I've seen recently on Reddit specifically is someone has a sponsored ad that goes in the middle of like comments and it just says, was this marketing information useful to you?

Speaker 1 And it's usually put on like a post about somebody makes about a movie. And it seems like a super snarky comment of like, oh, this is clearly a plant.
I don't even know what it's for.

Speaker 1 It catches my eye every single time.

Speaker 2 Every single time.

Speaker 1 So it does its job and you're mad about it it's pretty and it's ubiquitous you can use it anywhere right it's applicable almost anywhere they can put it in any comment thread about a media product you know like recently i think it was i saw it in one about dispatch which by the way i thought was an animated cartoon no it's a it's a game it's uh an episodic game i think the final episode is out um and i've seen greg miller talking about a lot but otherwise i know very little about i see people talking about how they feel about it with and refusing to discuss what it's like that's that's part of the problem that i've that i've had with it like I don't know what this is.

Speaker 2 Everyone says it's amazing. I've seen some very brief clips, and that, yes, it almost looks like the level of an animated show or something.
But you say to someone, like, what is this game?

Speaker 2 You're going to love it. And they're going to be like, oh, God, I love this game so much.
It's the best game.

Speaker 2 It's episodic and stuff. And I'm like, what is the fucking game?

Speaker 1 So tell me, Ashley, what is dispatch about? What is it?

Speaker 2 Animated characters.

Speaker 1 It's animated characters in an animated adventure.

Speaker 2 I assume they're dispatching

Speaker 1 stuff.

Speaker 1 To me, here's the plot of dispatch. Dispatch is the animated series Invincible.

Speaker 1 That's it. I know nothing else about it.
We'll have to find out about Dispatch.

Speaker 2 I'm backing about three tangents back.

Speaker 1 And listen, motherfuckers, if you comment on this podcast and say, I don't want to ruin it for you, you just need to play Dispatch,

Speaker 1 go screw yourself.

Speaker 1 You're part of the problem. Okay.
Get out of here.

Speaker 2 Backing up.

Speaker 1 So, box office winners, Running

Speaker 1 now you see me, now you don't, or dispatch. I'm going to go with the animated movie dispatch for box office winners.
Was there any other candidates in this?

Speaker 2 Those are the two. Those are the two major ones.

Speaker 1 I'm going to guess running man. Okay.
Even though it's not part of a big franchise.

Speaker 2 You are incorrect, sir.

Speaker 1 Who won?

Speaker 2 Now you see me, now you don't, which I kind of like, I was honestly not sure why they were putting another movie in this franchise out, except that someone in marketing finally convinced the suits that they needed to name a movie now you don't and you follow up the fact that this wasn't the second entry is the most it may be the most infuriating part and also that it's gone you know fast and the furious route where at first it was like racing cars and then they're like I don't know flying in space and it's all like magic and shit that seems like what they've done with the now you see me franchise where it starts off being like ooh magic tricks you know you get a cool popcorn bucket and stuff uh and now it's like

Speaker 2 fucking, there's no way, magic.

Speaker 1 Also, it's weird. I feel like, you know, how some things merge in your mind?

Speaker 1 There's just so much media now that inevitably either a movie is just like another movie or a franchise merges with another franchise.

Speaker 1 To me, this is in the same series of movies as the movie where Kevin Spacey teaches kids to play blackjack. Oh, do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 2 I do. That's the one where he gets like smart kids and takes them to Vegas and teaches them to count cards and stuff, right?

Speaker 1 It's the same series of movies.

Speaker 1 Or it's like a prequel or something like that in my head.

Speaker 2 Well, it is, I'm sure, like a high octane number guessing.

Speaker 1 I don't know why.

Speaker 1 I don't know why.

Speaker 2 Card magic tricks. I don't know.
But no, apparently Now You See Me, Now You Don't did 75 million worldwide and The Running Man did 28 million worldwide.

Speaker 1 Well, congratulations to Now You See Me, Now You Don't. And a Running Man.
That's a respectable total to make at the box office.

Speaker 2 I want to say yes, but once again, I find that the budgets for movies are so out of control that doing well is not doing well enough. I want to say the budget for that's like 110 million.

Speaker 1 I think Superman made like half a billion dollars, and people are still trying to figure out whether or not it was a successful movie.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like we're but we're just at a point where the budgets for things are so inflated. I think that maybe that's also why we're seeing, you know, seasons of shows like three years apart.

Speaker 2 No one is going to green light anything based on the success of the first couple episodes. They're like, no, no, no, we need to run the full numbers before we invest in this shit again.

Speaker 1 We've run into that too, though. I mean, I made a movie that was crowdfunded, and people are like, yeah, but was it, it was, it wasn't successful.
It's like, it was profitable before it was made.

Speaker 1 It was paid for. Before it made a dollar, it made money, you know, in ticket sales or whatever.
And then we ended up selling it to Google.

Speaker 1 It's just like people just, it's just this over-analysis or anything like that. I don't know what's going on.
Yeah. But yeah, so congratulations to Nauseim and I don't.

Speaker 1 Congratulations to Dispatch for being a video game.

Speaker 1 You are a video game. Congratulations on that.
So can I talk about college football?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course you can.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, the big story of the weekend was that Texas AM, who had an undefeated season, they played the South Carolina Gamecocks.
And I want to play

Speaker 1 the Gamecocks. This is great.
I'm glad you had that reaction. Jason Saldana sent this to me.
This is probably one of the best ever sportscaster halftime announcements.

Speaker 1 they're going to play unranked south carolina at halftime they go down 30 to 3 which is a lot wait hold on they went down to the game cocks yeah here no see here here's the announcer uh jason sent this to me this is from the halftime report that's true can they miss up in a special and come back and feed those cocks

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 then the story here, if you haven't figured out from my foreshadowing, they came back to win the game and preserve their undefeated season 31 to 30.

Speaker 2 Oh, they really came back and beat those cocks.

Speaker 1 They beat those Cox mercilessly.

Speaker 1 And there's a lot of people, too, who obviously I'm not a fan of A ⁇ M. There's a lot of people who are saying, like, oh, yeah, but should they still be ranked number three?

Speaker 1 Because, you know, they barely beat an unranked team. Anything can happen in sports.

Speaker 1 If you go down 30 to 3 and you come back and win win the game 31 to 30, if you come back from that kind of deficit and pull out a victory, there is no way that anyone could say anything negative about your program.

Speaker 1 But let me try.

Speaker 1 Fucking A ⁇ M. Goddamn.
So now we're going into, we're going to talk a little bit more about college football, just as a warning.

Speaker 1 I didn't talk about it too much in the early parts of the season, but we're coming into it now, the final game of the season. Ohio State is is still ranked number one.
Indiana is number two.

Speaker 1 Texas A ⁇ M is number three. Ohio State's got to face Michigan this week.
If you want to watch one game this week, watch that one. I don't care what the ranking for Michigan is.

Speaker 1 If Ohio State and Michigan are playing, I wouldn't bet any amount of money on that.

Speaker 2 Hold on, I'm scrolling down to find Michigan.

Speaker 1 I think you're like 17? I think it's where Texas is. That's where Texas is.
Yeah, Michigan's like somewhere around there, though. They're like 18, 14, something like that.

Speaker 1 But like I said, they put all the big rivalry games towards the end of the season.

Speaker 1 Indiana, I don't know their rivals or anything like that but they're they're not facing too too many tough teams at the end of the season uh texas a m has to play texas that's huge they used to play every rivalry they don't texas is obviously a superior school who's been over relentlessly really let's see how did they do this weekend they lost to georgia like 35 to 10.

Speaker 1 35 to 10 is like such a crappy score too, because it's kind of like, it's not a full blowout, but it's like,

Speaker 1 you know, it's just like, it's just not great. It's not great.
It's like, you never had really a chance to win it unless, of course, if you're goddamn shitty AM against South Carolina.

Speaker 2 I'm looking over here. So Texas right now is 17.
So they clawed their way all the way up to number, what was it, 10? Yes. And then clawed their way back down to 17.

Speaker 1 Listen, we're just doing a full tour. Everybody else is just like being boringly consistent.
Texas is just all over the map this season.

Speaker 1 And I got to say, too, I was a purist for old school college football where they would determine who made it to the bowl games via the polls. And now we have the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And here we are in that future that I knew I was going to be in where it's like, it doesn't really matter. If we can make the playoffs, we can still pull something off.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I do hope there's a pull-off joke with the beating the cocks in the corner.

Speaker 2 Only if the game cocks are playing.

Speaker 1 I won't mentally explore that. I'm too exhausted with college football.
I hope Indiana wins out.

Speaker 1 Who knows? You know, Cinderella seasons collapse more than they actually get fully paid off.

Speaker 1 Texas A ⁇ M, I mean, that's really, really cool to have an undefeated season.

Speaker 1 I don't know that they've ever had one, but I'm not going to give up watching Texas destroy their hopes and make them sad.

Speaker 1 One of the things I really hate about sports is when they focus on the sad fans. I don't think that's fair.
I don't think that's honest, right? Right.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's just kind of shitty to focus on sad fans.

Speaker 2 Focus on the players that didn't beat the Gamecocks, okay?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're in public. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I get it. You can film them, but it's just like, it's not fair.
Just let me, especially kids.

Speaker 2 Don't be mean.

Speaker 1 Crying kids in like college gear is the saddest thing ever. But yeah, so Bama lost also.
They lost to Oklahoma. So now Bama has fallen.
I don't think anyone's upset about that.

Speaker 2 Alabama's at number 10. Oh, they fell six spots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they fell significantly. And so the thing to watch here is Texas A ⁇ M versus Texas, and I think Ohio State versus Michigan.

Speaker 2 Can I tell you what's weird about this is that I'm on AP News looking at the college football rankings. That's not a thing.
I don't associate AP news with like college football in any way.

Speaker 2 In any way, but I guess this is where the ranking lives.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they used to be the, they've been the most consistent provider of rankings that mattered to college football.

Speaker 1 There was a coaches poll for a long time, and that was, I think, associated with USA Today for a while.

Speaker 1 And then they had the, when they had the bowl system, the BCS system, there was like a combined ranking of the two.

Speaker 1 But AP has been consistently the most important ranking in terms of college football. But once you get to the playoffs, then they have just have a system by how the seeds work.

Speaker 1 It's all just like kind of a retro thing where you can talk about who's ranked what.

Speaker 2 Well, speaking of unexpected wins, Bernie, Tom Cruise,

Speaker 2 I just found this out this morning, has just won his first Oscar.

Speaker 1 Apparently got a nice pep talk by the announcers at halftime.

Speaker 1 Went back to the board and worked with him. Tom, we're going to give you some advice.

Speaker 1 What do you mean he won an Oscar? He's never won an Oscar.

Speaker 2 He just won an Oscar, but.

Speaker 1 Talk about someone who's been treated unfairly by the system.

Speaker 2 It is, it's, it's fat.

Speaker 1 Tom Cruise never won an Oscar. That's a travesty.

Speaker 2 I would never have guessed that until I saw the headline that he just won his first Oscar.

Speaker 1 But here's... What did he win an Oscar? Did he really? Was this like a governor's ball? Like one of those, one of those Oscars? Like an honorary Oscar?

Speaker 2 Yes. He received an Oscar.

Speaker 1 Can I guess? Play this game.

Speaker 1 I'm going to guess that Tom Cruise, first of his name,

Speaker 1 won his first first Oscar for stunt work.

Speaker 2 No, but that would have been really appropriate. He won for his unwavering commitment to our filmmaking community, his vital support of the theatrical experience, and his unmatched body of work.

Speaker 2 He won an honorary mention.

Speaker 1 Oh, the ever-covered Uncle Wunklewo Award.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so he basically got an award.

Speaker 2 The award is: I can't believe this guy hasn't won an award. Get this guy an award award.

Speaker 1 Can I ask you a question? Go ahead. If you had a career

Speaker 1 over as many decades at the level of Tom Cruise, would that be an insulting first Oscar to get?

Speaker 2 I mean, hard to say. Maybe.
They're like, we think you do really good and you haven't gotten an award. So here, take this one.

Speaker 1 It's Tom Cruise. You make a Tom Cruise award and you give it to Tom Cruise.
That's what you do. That's what you do.
Or everybody knows what it is. It's the Tom Cruise Award.

Speaker 2 Or throwing the, like, I would say he's worthy at this point of the lifetime award right he's done nothing but make gigantic movies and and advocated for the industry like his entire career that's a great point that's a really good point why wouldn't he be eligible just give him the lifetime achievement award you know and so then I was reading about this and discovered there's like uh like michelle pfeiffer cigourney weaver uh samuel jackson all these like really like

Speaker 1 very big names in the industry none of them have won oscars yeah not even the uncle uncle uncle woke whatever that one was We have to figure out what the acronym for that is. Oscars are weird, though.

Speaker 1 Like I was,

Speaker 1 you look at like best director, like name a famous director that you know the name of.

Speaker 2 Scorsese.

Speaker 1 Martin Scorsese, great example. Martin Scorsese.

Speaker 2 The one doing the Odyssey.

Speaker 1 Martin Scorsese has just as many best director Oscars as Mel Gibson and Kevin Costner and Warren Beatty. What? Yeah, they each have one.

Speaker 1 Steven Spielberg has as many best Oscar, or excuse me, best director Oscars as Clint Eastwood. What? Yeah, it's just weird.
You just never know.

Speaker 1 You never, because it's all like what they're up against.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, I know that the Oscars in general have like very specific genre biases. They don't like superhero movies.
They don't like horror films.

Speaker 2 And a lot of times they have no idea what to do with like family movies.

Speaker 2 You know, and so like that's, that's well known. But the blind spots for someone like Tom Cruise, that's just weird, right? That's weird.

Speaker 1 A director who's never had an Oscar, Quentin Tarantino. for best director.
For best director. Screenplay.
I think he won for Pulp Fiction, but not best director.

Speaker 2 Do you think, here's the thing. So Kill Bill is going back to theaters, but it's going back as like the whole thing, right? It's part one and part two.

Speaker 2 If it goes back to theaters now as a combined film, is he now eligible for a nomination for the whole thing?

Speaker 1 Just want to say here really quickly, Quentin Tarantino has two Oscars, Screenplay, Pulp Fiction, and Screenplay, Django, and Change. Okay.
But no Oscars for directorial efforts.

Speaker 2 Well, maybe this maybe this Killbill thing is his like his big push then.

Speaker 1 You're talking about his 10th movie?

Speaker 1 What he's going to make?

Speaker 1 Because he's got one more. Like, so what are the chances that Tarantino will not win for whatever this last movie is? It could be like a selfie on Instagram.

Speaker 1 I think he probably would win best director.

Speaker 2 You mean the same way a lot of times

Speaker 2 series will win on their final season and they just like they left it till the final season and then they get all their awards?

Speaker 1 Peter Jackson has one best director, Oscar. It's for Return of the King.
Right.

Speaker 1 Scorsese has departed.

Speaker 2 Wait your turn, buddy.

Speaker 1 Right. I think Scorsese could, once again, could have done just about anything at that point, and they would have given him the best director.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 They weren't lining up to give him the

Speaker 1 award.

Speaker 1 Tom Cruise, give this man an Oscar. Also,

Speaker 1 while we're talking about this, we got to go back to your point, but

Speaker 1 is the Lifetime Achievement Award presented by the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts, and Sciences, Is that an Oscar?

Speaker 1 Or is the Oscar, the yearly awards, and this Lifetime Achievement Award is its whole own thing? Like, is it technically considered an Oscar?

Speaker 2 I would assume it would be considered an Oscar if it's part of like the overall awards lineup, right? Like, that's not Oscars. It's an award this year.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You got an award from this thing, this ceremony this year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, like the same way as like you can get like your, your, what is it, like the, the Emmys that they don't show on TV, like the creative arts Emmys and things like that, like they're pre-Emmys, they're still Emmys.

Speaker 1 What's the, if there's an award you can win in your life, let's go ahead and take off the table a Nobel Prize and you're actually doing something important for the world.

Speaker 1 Let's take that off the table. Okay.
If you could win any award in the world, what would you like to win?

Speaker 2 Number one in the AAP rankings.

Speaker 2 Anything to get closer to the Gamecocks.

Speaker 1 Would you be?

Speaker 1 You would want to win the Heisman Trophy, it sounds like. That's what you want to win.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Is that the one that's full of Gatorade?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. That's

Speaker 1 just the Gatorade cooler. That's all it is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess Oscar would probably be the highest award I could think of that I would like to win. I have no illusions about ever having been in contention for a Heisman at any point in my life.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? It's like still like an Oscar would be fucking incredible. Like the highest one.
Of course, once again, Nobel Prize off the table, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I mean, Brittany, sometimes being in the spotlight can be a very risky thing.

Speaker 2 I saw a headline recently, and I actually would love to hear from you on this because I know you're a big fan of drones and DJI, which is arguably like the biggest name that I know of in the consumer drone market, I saw a headline that they're skipping the US

Speaker 2 with their new drone release,

Speaker 2 the Neo 2,

Speaker 2 because they might get banned in the U.S. entirely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they might.

Speaker 2 Which I was, that's kind of the first I've heard of a DJI ban. I mean, that's, are there any other major brands of drone? Like, why are they getting banned?

Speaker 1 No, which is the speculation that's the whole point, that this is being done to prop up inferior U.S. drone companies, or at least ones that don't have nearly the market share that DJI has.

Speaker 2 Well, how's that for a meritocracy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I remember the first time I used one of their products, I was like, holy cow, this is like.

Speaker 1 light years ahead, it feels like, of anything else.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because you had a Mavic, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had one of the first Mavics, and then I had the Mavic 2 or the Mavic Pro. I can't remember which one.

Speaker 1 Boy, and I loved it. It was fantastic.
I haven't, you know, and it's testament. I probably bought it 10 years ago and I haven't had to buy a new one since.
It works.

Speaker 1 It does exactly what I want it to do.

Speaker 1 And it still operates to this day. It's one of those things I have to break out every now and then.
You've watched me do this and charge the batteries because it'll sit for a year unused.

Speaker 1 And it's like, shit, I don't want these batteries to go like completely dead. Right.

Speaker 2 You got to condition them a little bit.

Speaker 1 I had to do that with our Starlink.

Speaker 1 We don't use it anymore, but I had to bust out the Starlink because November 15th, I I don't know if there's any Starlink users out there who have like a one sitting around unconnected.

Speaker 2 But I hope you can go back in time two days.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they might have a little bit of a grace period. If you don't do a software update on your Starlink hardware like

Speaker 1 now or probably by last Saturday, it's defunct to where you won't be able to get future updates on it. It just needs to, this is a critical update that needs to be done.

Speaker 1 Probably should have, something I should have mentioned on Friday, right? But I got an alert on my calendar that I had to do it on Saturday. I was like, fuck, I told you at like 6 p.m.

Speaker 1 I I go, I have to go down to the shed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're like, oh, no, I got to go.

Speaker 1 Go bust it out.

Speaker 2 And you're like off in the dark aiming at the stars.

Speaker 1 You know, it's one of those pieces of equipment. It's like you might wonder, why do you have Starlink equipment that you're not using? Because I bought it four years ago.

Speaker 1 And then once we got fiber here, I didn't need it anymore. There's just, I talk to Xander about this all the time.
There are just some products I will never resell.

Speaker 1 And something that ran all of our data through it, I just won't resell that thing. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Even though there's like not even storage capabilities on that, I just, there's certain things in my life I won't resell, period.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like just, yeah, it doesn't have anything, but still.

Speaker 1 Like an old iPhone, I've wiped it a thousand times. Like, oh, like I would never resell like an old hard drive from my PC or anything like that.
I just wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 That goes in like an industrial shred or something.

Speaker 1 And I don't even have anything, right? I don't think there's nothing there, but I just like, I just like, I can't imagine selling that stuff. Anyway, DGIs are amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it looks like they might not be able to sell in the U.S. It's kind of like the TikTok of hardware, essentially.
Like they don't know. Like they're going to ban them.

Speaker 1 They're not going to ban them. Who can figure it out?

Speaker 1 This falls into a weird category for me, which is like,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of things like that these days. Like Denmark just banned.
You look it up. I think it was Denmark.
Denmark just put through one of these bans where social media under 15 is prohibited.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Denmark is banning social media for under 15s.

Speaker 1 Somebody also just did a ban where it's the first ever generational ban where no one born after a certain date will ever be able to buy tobacco ever. I want to say it was Singapore.

Speaker 1 And that was kind of interesting too. It's one of those things where it's a ban and individually it seems like a bad thing, but also I don't think 15 year olds and under should be on social media.

Speaker 1 So I'm like, I'm like, okay with it.

Speaker 1 Apple just rolled out this thing, announced it this weekend or soft announced it where they're going to allow a digital ID on your phone, which allows you to get through like TSA with an ID and it can be used in like actual identification circumstances.

Speaker 1 Okay. And I'm like, that's incredibly convenient if it didn't come along with everything else.
Like, put it this way. I would like it way better if it was opt-in.

Speaker 1 And these, these things are starting to feel like they're not opt-in. Right.

Speaker 2 Like they're starting to feel awfully required.

Speaker 2 I think what you're thinking of is the Maldives, the amendment to its Tobacco Control Act, which prohibits individuals born on or after January 1st, 2007, from purchasing, using, or being sold any tobacco products for life that came into effect November 1st in the Maldives.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Interesting.

Speaker 1 So like they'll continue to sell tobacco products there and people who were born before 2007 will be able to continue buying them, but everyone else afterwards will not be able to be able to have them ever.

Speaker 1 Ever. That's it.
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 It is interesting. And it's like, I mean, it kind of makes sense.
I can imagine if you were born like in 2007, you're like, man, fuck you guys.

Speaker 1 But also, are they, do, like, do the kids care about the demo? If you never had it, are you losing anything?

Speaker 2 Does that make sense? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, I feel like for a while, there was almost this like coming of age and getting to sin sort of like idea with tobacco, with drinking, all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 And I feel like that's really, especially with like, you know, the like, like Gen Z and stuff falling off. Like that's, that's not the draw that it used to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And I got to say, going back to this DJI thing, it's one of those things sometimes.

Speaker 1 You don't talk about stuff because you don't want to manifest it, or you don't want something to happen and be on record as having talked about it beforehand. But having used drones,

Speaker 1 I am surprised that there hasn't been a major incident with a drone or with drones. Like, I don't know how that hasn't happened yet.
I've used a drone 10 years ago.

Speaker 1 I had the experience of, So I can fly this thing up to a kilometer away from where I'm standing and see what it's doing and control it in real time.

Speaker 1 And I also learned how close it can get to people before they start to look for it because you can get so close to people that you can see them turn their heads up to look for whatever the hell that noise is that they're hearing.

Speaker 2 Well, part of the difficulty is because I'll occasionally hear like people will have drones out here.

Speaker 2 And I will, like, I'll look up and I'll be going, where is that fucking thing? Because I can hear it, but I can't see it because they're very small.

Speaker 1 And I would say probably that might be confirmation bias. There are probably a lot more drones around you that you don't hear and don't know about.

Speaker 2 You think, I always feel like they're really noisy for their size.

Speaker 1 But when you, they're, they're extremely noisy when they get within a certain distance of you.

Speaker 1 But even like I could, and I know this from experience, when you start it and it's super noisy right next to you, you're like, Jesus, this thing's making a racket.

Speaker 1 And then how quickly I can fly it away from myself and not hear it at all. True.
Like, and like I, part of my job is when I'm doing it, is to find the damn thing and know where it is.

Speaker 1 Most of the time, I only know where it is based on the relative view of its camera. Like, I can't spot it in the sky.
And even like Elon Musk, I did an interview with him.

Speaker 1 It was about like the dangers of technology. And they said, well, like, what's the most dangerous thing you can think of? And like with modern stuff.

Speaker 1 And he goes, um, well, he goes, you know, you know, the way Elon Musk talks, he goes, you could like pick a, um, you know, took a drone off the shelf and use a,

Speaker 1 you know, a modern facial recognition technology that's in a smartphone and just use it to go into an office and then recognize someone and it would autonomously get up next to them and attack them and, you know, with an explosive device.

Speaker 1 I was like, Jesus, he came up with that really fucking fast off the cuff. And it's true.
Like, there's so many technologies.

Speaker 1 Let me just put it this way. If I had access to some things that people have in order to pull off some kind of incident, I could probably weaponize a drone in about five minutes.
And so

Speaker 1 while I don't think things should be banned, also sometimes you're close enough to someone going, Jesus, how fortunate that most people, 99.99999% of the people in the world are decent people, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, like, we count on that a lot.

Speaker 2 That's, I mean, that's kind of how civilization runs.

Speaker 1 Like you hear about a van that like goes through a crowd or something like that in France.

Speaker 1 And it's like, it's one of those things where lots of vans are being driven by lots of people all day long and those things don't happen, right? Right.

Speaker 1 We have a lot of ability to hurt one another and we just don't do it. Like the human compassion for other people is really the best checks and balance balance we have for that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 But I don't know. It is one of those technology things where I'm close enough to it to where I'm like, I'm not going to like, I'm not going to raise any eyebrows over that.

Speaker 1 I'm not, I think maybe we should relook at how many people can get their hands on drones, especially for like videos have been coming out of Ukraine and things like that.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I'm off on a way long tangent here, but like, yeah, it's one of those things where I have a foot on both sides of this argument. So I just kind of stay out of it.

Speaker 2 Well, what I'm hearing from you is that all of us who choose not to do crazy things every single day, we all deserve a hugo, wuggle, wuggle.

Speaker 1 Everybody does it, Ashley. Who are our nominations

Speaker 1 for the 2026 Ungung Wugga Wugga?

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Speaker 1 Hey, I just want to say before we go that the first episode of RVB Restoration is up on the Rooshite website. The complete movie is up for sponsors of the website.
It will be going to YouTube soon.

Speaker 1 It was supposed to already be up, but guess what? There's a music clearance issue that the automated process on YouTube won't let me post it. It's a song that we specifically have permission to use.

Speaker 1 For the show, but I got to get that cleared up before it goes on YouTube. Modern problems, Ashley.

Speaker 2 Modern problems.

Speaker 1 Got a fight with a computer

Speaker 1 about a music from somebody I know personally who made the music. So we'll get that straightened out hopefully sooner rather than later.
It'll be up on YouTube.

Speaker 1 But for now, please visit roosterteeth.com to check out the show. All right, that does it for us today, November 17th, 2025.
We will be back socking tomorrow. We hope you will be here as well.

Speaker 1 Bye, everybody.