2025.11.21: Pocket Joey

Speaker 1 What's your name?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What is your name?

Speaker 1 Hey, we're recording the podcast. Get up.

Speaker 1 Good morning to you, wherever you are, because it is

Speaker 1 for November 21st.

Speaker 1 My name is Bertie Burns, sitting right over there. It's Ezekiel.
Say hi to Ashley Burns, everybody.

Speaker 2 You know, sometimes that pause is just a little bit too long and I wonder if you've forgotten your name.

Speaker 1 My name? Your name.

Speaker 2 My name is

Speaker 1 Bernie Burns. Dramatic Effect, lady.

Speaker 1 Dramatic effect.

Speaker 1 I think of, did you ever get to a point where you thought of yourself by your nickname? Like your nickname was like a handle. It's a little different.
Handles are different than nicknames.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I've never hyped myself being like, Jinx, you got this.

Speaker 1 Did anyone ever like come up to you, like anybody in person in your personal life besides someone who knew you from your online persona? Did like anybody call you Jinx on a personal level?

Speaker 2 I had some friends who were friends outside of gaming who still referred to me as Jinx and I was like nerd.

Speaker 2 What are you doing, nerd? That's my secret name. Your secret name.
Don't call me by my secret name.

Speaker 1 I'm not on duty. By the way, I played, started playing Dispatch last night while we're talking about alter egos.

Speaker 1 I played, I think, through the first 20 minutes of the game, and I'm going to use the word play in quotes.

Speaker 1 It's an animated show, and it's a good one. I really like the characters and everything like that.
I'm never in a million years going to disparage anybody

Speaker 1 who is

Speaker 1 doing narrative scripted characters. You know what I mean? I like the fact that people are trying to make fictional characters.
I love that kind of stuff. I love that people are engaging with it.

Speaker 1 But it's almost like someone wanted to make a cartoon and they told them they had to make a game.

Speaker 1 I turned on at the very beginning of it just to see what would happen. I turned on, there's an option to make it cinematic or interactive, which takes you out of the quick time events.

Speaker 1 So I don't even see the quick time events. I do see a pause where it comes out.

Speaker 2 So you're the one who turned it into a cartoon.

Speaker 1 I am, but then I went back and looked at it as well. Like looked at it if it was more interactive.
You also, it doesn't eliminate all the interaction when you do the cinematic mode.

Speaker 1 It'll have you make choices. And I very specifically in the first choice made what I thought was an extreme choice.
I'm going to spoil the first two minutes of this game for you.

Speaker 1 There's a thing where a guy is dangling another guy over a balcony and you have a choice to pull him back or drop him. And it was like a moment where if you were a good guy, you'd pull him back.

Speaker 2 I'd go, nah, fuck it, I'm going to drop him. I'm going to drop this guy.

Speaker 1 So I dropped the guy off the balcony and then he lands on a mattress and he's okay.

Speaker 2 Okay, so you feel like the consequence wasn't there.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I wonder like, what am I really contributing to this, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Why wasn't I allowed to kill a guy in the first two minutes? Right.

Speaker 1 It's not a choose your own adventure. It's choose my own adventure, Right.
It's like, we're going to throw shit at it. That's, that's the impression that I got initially, but it's great.
It's like,

Speaker 1 let me ask you this. Bander snatch on Netflix.
Yes.

Speaker 2 There was the choose your own adventure show. Right.

Speaker 1 Is that a Netflix game?

Speaker 2 I would say yes. Right.
Right. Once you add an interactive element, obviously it was presented as a show.

Speaker 2 It was, it was formatted as a show, but I would classify it as a game because of the choices that you make as a participant, right?

Speaker 2 Like once you're participating in the narrative, then it becomes a game to me.

Speaker 1 There is an area between game and movie that is

Speaker 1 a section that both of those, I think, fall in, which is interactive.

Speaker 2 It's a Jumanji. Oh.

Speaker 1 When one falls on Netflix, you tend to like lump it in with all the movies.

Speaker 1 And when something is available on Steam, you lump it in with all the games when really they're in their own kind of classification. That's where I think dispatch lives.

Speaker 2 By the way, speaking of Jumanji, by the way, did you notice that we Jumanji is coming for us? We said it too many times, and now we're going to get Jumanji. What happened?

Speaker 2 Right after we talked about Jumanji on the podcast, they dropped like the first look at Jumanji 3.

Speaker 1 Oh, what do they do in Jumanji 3? Do they go into like a social media platform now this time? The first one was a board game. The second one was a video game, right? Like an 8-bit Nintendo game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it was also like, you know, a very different era, right? There was a lot of time between those. This is the same cast.
You know, it's the rock, it's Jack Black. It's, you know, it's what?

Speaker 1 Well, I was just like, I'm waiting for, yeah, Nebula, right? That's the lady who plays Nebula, who was completely unrecognizable in that role in Avengers.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, it's Karen Gillette, who she's, by the way, she's not Nebula, she's from Doctor Who, you know, before Nebula, but yes, most people will probably know her as Nebula from the Marvel movies.

Speaker 2 But so it's, it's that cast again, right? Yeah. It's not, you know, so it's not doing as much of a time time jump as like from Jumanji to Jumanji 2.

Speaker 2 When you have a whole new cast and

Speaker 2 it's kind of a soft reboot, it makes sense to then update the way that you get Jumanji'd, right? I don't know that that's necessarily happening in this case. Jack Black, in it?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So Jack Black, The Rock, Kevin Hart, and Carrie Dylan. Yeah, interesting.
Okay. Interesting.
I'll be honest with you, I didn't mind. the Jumanji sequel.

Speaker 2 I liked it a lot.

Speaker 2 I thought that the way that they did it as well was really funny, where all the all the characters got put into basically like the video game characters essentially that didn't match them or their personality.

Speaker 2 I thought that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 I thought it was fun. I thought it was totally fun.
It's interesting to see Jack Black coming back to that, though, after doing Minecraft. I guess it just doesn't matter at all.

Speaker 2 Look, I think Jack Black do what Jack Black want to do. I think you're exactly right.
You know, he's got that kung fu panda money. He can do whatever he likes.

Speaker 1 I can't believe his parents named him after a color. That was interesting.

Speaker 1 We had a bunch of people who didn't know that the name Evie, by the way, is not a Pokemon name.

Speaker 1 We got so many comments yesterday.

Speaker 2 Asking if we named our child after a Pokemon. Yeah, no, we did not.

Speaker 1 First of all, how little do you know me that I name my kid after a Pokemon? Give me a fucking break. No, my name is Evelyn and Evie for short.

Speaker 1 And then we had a really crazy thing that happened crossover is that we have little baby Evie in the family and then Peppa Pig, which is a very big deal here in the UK. It's like the kids' show.

Speaker 1 Even though Bluey, I i think is like taking over the entire world but you know peppa pig is like classic yeah it's one of those like peppa pig is not gonna go away in the uk just because bluey came along like peppa pig is a mainstay like the monarchy she has now it's like one of these long-running tv shows though where it's like there's weird like time elongation where no one's getting older and now after many many years they have added a baby mommy had a baby mommy should be well past i think the point where she's having babies at this point it was it this the fact that uh Peppa Pig has a new baby sister named Evie, this was headline news in the UK.

Speaker 2 Big name review. Like, you would have thought that this was like Jennifer Aniston's new kid.
Like, this is like, this was like actual

Speaker 2 just talk. This was breaking news, okay? They're interrupting the king and being like, I don't think you understand, Your Majesty.
Peppa Pig has a little sister. That's how big the news was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the baby's name was, it was either Evie or Magnetron.

Speaker 1 What's the book on?

Speaker 1 Magneton?

Speaker 1 What do they call that guy?

Speaker 2 I think there's a Magneton.

Speaker 1 Yeah, something like that. It just shows how little I know about Pokemon.
No, to answer your questions and your very pointed comments, we did not name our child after a Pokemon. How dare you?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we named Finn after a Pokemon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jennifer Aniston's going to do that.

Speaker 2 Speaking of Jennifer Aniston, by the way.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like talking about Jennifer Aniston.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 this is tangential, okay? But

Speaker 2 do you remember that there was the very successful television show Friends, and then there was the slightly less successful spin-off of Friends, Joey,

Speaker 2 following Joey's Hollywood career, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 There were eight episodes of that show that never aired, right? They just like, they just didn't put them out. So there's

Speaker 1 what a weird trajectory from like the most popular show of all time where people were making the most money of all time to then a show where they didn't even show all the episodes. Right, right.

Speaker 2 So they never aired these eight episodes. Yeah, that was like the Kramer spin-off.

Speaker 1 They showed one stand-up episode and then none after that. Bernie, Bernie, until now.

Speaker 1 Oh, Joey has now, they've gone to the vault and pulled the went to the vault, baby.

Speaker 2 So they've now put every episode of Joey, including the unaired eight episodes, on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah, they're on like the Friends YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 It didn't even get its own YouTube channel. It's on the Friends YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 Did they put it on like Peacock or anything like that?

Speaker 1 They put it on the YouTube channel for Friends?

Speaker 2 Yeah, let me double-check that, but that's what I heard.

Speaker 1 You got to think about this. Friends was off the air like six years before YouTube even started.
Who knew there was a Friends YouTube channel?

Speaker 2 Why wouldn't there? These are YouTube channels for everything.

Speaker 1 God, I can't believe

Speaker 1 we got these released in the same week as the Epstein files.

Speaker 2 Do you think like Hollywood is now, they're all in a panic because they're like, do you appear in the unaired Joey episodes?

Speaker 1 Am I named in the credits for the Joey lost episodes? Shit, I got to pack my bags.

Speaker 2 Yep, here we go. Here's a playlist.
Joey full episodes right there on the friends YouTube channel. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 they opened an open investigation into David Schwimmer, so he will be redacted from all the Joey episodes.

Speaker 1 He was supposed to be

Speaker 1 in a fear.

Speaker 1 Well, it would be worse, honestly. If you were, if you, if you knew someone who appeared in the Epstein files or someone who appeared in the lost episodes of Joey.
Right.

Speaker 2 Well, what if you, like, what if you, though, like, what if you're a whole, what if, here's the thing. What if you started your career with the grand lie that I

Speaker 2 was in an episode of Joey? This is the first thing on my acting resume, right? It's just one of the ones that never aired. That's why you haven't seen me.

Speaker 1 That's, by the way, that's a common thing.

Speaker 1 Quentin Tarantino, when he was an aspiring actor, we were just talking about 1978's George Romero's Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 1 One of the things he claimed as an actor, because he thought there's no way anyone can prove this, that he was a zombie in Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, other people who made films were like, you're in Dawn of the Dead?

Speaker 1 I would imagine that was a great talking point for a young actor. Right.

Speaker 2 It would have been until now. Now everyone's got to go update their acting LinkedIns and take off their unaired episode of Joey Credits.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 And now they'll be able to be proven, like, you weren't in this.

Speaker 1 What are the chances though? People are going to prove that. They're going to go look at the episodes.

Speaker 1 Should we have a Joey Thon this weekend and watch all eight episodes of the lost Joey episodes?

Speaker 2 Maybe we can watch all like 38 episodes if you want.

Speaker 1 But honestly, do I need to watch the three that were released in order to understand

Speaker 1 that are coming out on YouTube?

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, it depends on how important the canon is to you.

Speaker 1 How, yeah, how was

Speaker 1 how was how many episodes or seasons of Joey were there?

Speaker 2 Two, maybe, or like one and a half.

Speaker 1 But you know, I got to say, I'm going to make a lot of jokes here. Why not? I mean, like everybody, when they left friends,

Speaker 1 they were making a million dollars an episode per person when they were making between 22 and 24 episodes a season. And I want to say that they were doing that for like three years.

Speaker 2 It's good money if you can get it.

Speaker 1 Also, God knows how much money they made in syndication. There was a point in time when if you had a sitcom, like I always think of that era of like Seinfeld and friends, that was peak, right?

Speaker 1 Like even the number of people who watched the Seinfeld finale, which was a huge deal, you're just not going to be able to do that again because the environment doesn't exist. So why not?

Speaker 1 You know, it's like everyone's like, we want more friends, just make more friends. And they're like, no, we're done.
And they all wanted to move on to other things.

Speaker 1 And like Matt LeBlanc was like, fuck, man, I'm having a great time with this stuff.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. Why not? I want to say, too, that had

Speaker 1 a really interesting cast. See if my memory's working here.
You can look it up.

Speaker 1 I believe the female lead in that was Drea DeMateo, who was in the Sopranos.

Speaker 1 She was like, Christopher.

Speaker 2 She was the girlfriend.

Speaker 1 I think that's who the female lead in the Joey sitcom was. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 So full, full castaire. Male Blanc, Andrea Anders, Paolo Costanzo, Jennifer Coolidge, Drea Demateo, right?

Speaker 1 There we go. Maybe she wasn't the lead.
Maybe she was like, you know, she's, if I was just casting her.

Speaker 2 She was in every episode. She was in 46 episodes.

Speaker 1 She might have been like Joey's sister. But Jennifer Coolidge was in.

Speaker 2 I didn't even know. Yeah, I had no idea she was in that.
So, yeah, this is, I think, so now we can watch what the 38 episodes plus the final lost episode.

Speaker 1 They just cast people with really interesting voices they had dreamatea going christopher

Speaker 1 coolidge going

Speaker 1 hi going wow fran dresher

Speaker 1 we have

Speaker 1 the whole cast was matt lablock

Speaker 1 dreadea

Speaker 1 jennifer coolidge Fran Drescher and Gilbert Godfrey.

Speaker 2 Is that then the most successful TV show of all time or the least?

Speaker 1 Bobcat Goldford.

Speaker 1 It's just an endless list of performers who do funny voices for the characters.

Speaker 1 Do you know what Fran Drescher went on to go do after the show? I do.

Speaker 2 I do. And I, well, I don't know if, I mean...
I know what she eventually did. I know she became the president for SAG AFTRA.

Speaker 1 She was the president of SAG AFTRA.

Speaker 2 Until recently. And that's now, they've got a new president.
Is it Sean Aston?

Speaker 1 It's Sean Aston.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, but yeah, during the strike and everything, it was like Fran Drescher's addresses everyone about the SAG AFFSCRECRECH and I was like,

Speaker 2 it's not a career move I would have expected for the nanny, but good for her.

Speaker 1 Sean Aston, who many people will know as Samwise, Gangi from the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Speaker 2 Is that what he's from?

Speaker 1 Yes, that's the one. That's the one.
Not in The Hobbit, but in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. But most people would know him as Samwise.
He's also, I learned this,

Speaker 1 I don't want to use the term that's commonly used these days, but Hollywood royalty, like Hollywood Legacy. Is he? From a Hollywood family, his dad, John Aston.

Speaker 1 Who, if you had to guess, there's only like seven TV shows before like 1970. What do you think Sean Aston's dad was? Very famous lead in a famous black and white sitcom.

Speaker 1 I should double check this before I put this out to you because it's just from memory as well.

Speaker 2 A black and white sitcom.

Speaker 1 Green Acres.

Speaker 1 You're in the right era.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think you're in the right era.

Speaker 2 I dream of genie.

Speaker 1 It's creepy and kooky.

Speaker 1 Adams family? His dad is Gomez Adams. No way.
Yeah, that's who his dad is. Yeah, Sean Aston's dad is Gomez Adams.

Speaker 2 You know, I have to say, and I understand that the 90s Adams family did not strike as close to the original graphic novels in terms of like how they cast

Speaker 2 the,

Speaker 2 specifically Gomez, like Raul Julia, was not. like comic accurate, but I will never be able to picture anyone else as Gomez.
In the Wednesday TV show that they've got going on,

Speaker 2 it's like a much, it's a much more comic accurate depiction of Gomez. And I'm like, it's not Gomez.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I get you.

Speaker 2 Raul Julia was just too iconic in that role.

Speaker 2 He was iconic in every role, though, right? Like there's people that are like,

Speaker 2 Street Fighter, terrible movie. But Raul Julia, impeccable in that film.

Speaker 1 I understand.

Speaker 1 Wasn't that his last ever role, too? Was M. Bison in the Street Fighter?

Speaker 2 I believe it was. And he did it specifically for his kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, isn't Carl Urban in the... No, he's in a new Mortal Comedy.

Speaker 2 He's in Should we watch that? We should probably watch that. I mean,

Speaker 2 how do we not watch Carl Urban in a Mortal Kombat film? How do we skip that?

Speaker 1 How do we just stop at Carl Urban? Like, I love Carl Urban and everything he's in. He's another one from Lord of the Rings.
You would not recognize Carl Urban as the leader.

Speaker 2 As

Speaker 2 Yomer,

Speaker 2 he's got the long blonde hair.

Speaker 1 He's one of the riders of Rohan. He's like the word rider.
He's like, flowing hair. And you're like, wait a minute, I know who this guy guy is.
I recognize him. It's Carl Urban.

Speaker 2 Slightly bleached out locks. He looked stunning.

Speaker 1 Also, we were talking about just recently about the gorgeous cast of the Star Trek reboot, which now it's, I've learned it's called the Kelvin branch or something like that.

Speaker 2 Oh, that, like that timeline?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they refer to that as the Kelvin series. And I don't actually know why that is.

Speaker 2 Because they're all stone cold foxes.

Speaker 1 I read the weirdest fact today, which put me back on my heels, Ashley. I didn't even know this was a thing.

Speaker 1 Apparently, you probably know this theme, even though you have never watched series. We were talking about the even-numbered versus odd-numbered.

Speaker 1 A lot of people waited on that in the comments of like good Star Trek movie, I shouldn't say good, well-received Star Trek movies versus poorly received Star Trek movies, and how it flipped when they got to the Kelvin series, which is where I learned that name.

Speaker 1 And I learned something else while doing some Star Trek research

Speaker 1 was that

Speaker 1 the classic theme for Star Trek, the original series, I don't know the name of the composer, but the creator, who's the creator of Star Trek, do you know off the top of your head? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Gene Roddenberry. You probably heard that.

Speaker 2 That name, yes. When you say the name, I go, ah, yes, the creator of Star Trek.

Speaker 1 This is like, it's weird how stuff comes together. Like, I'm dealing, as you guys know, with a music clearance thing, and I've talked about how weird music clearances are.

Speaker 1 I probably, I'm just going to repeat this and I'll do some fact checking and I'll cut this in editing if it's not true. But apparently, the composer who made that classic Star Trek theme.

Speaker 2 Alexander Courage. There we go.

Speaker 1 And it's just da da da da da da da da.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows the Star Trek theme, right? Right. Apparently, Gene Roddenberry wrote lyrics.

Speaker 2 There's lyrics to it.

Speaker 1 He wrote lyrics to the score so that he could get half the royalties.

Speaker 1 Because even if, even if they didn't use them, even if the lyrics aren't used, if they're part of the composition, then you get half of it's like an author of the song.

Speaker 1 So apparently, after the composer turned it in gene roddenberry added the lyrics and then took half the royalty and it was understandably how big that thing became and was used all over the place and nobody knows the lyrics and there's apparently there's whole youtube videos of people like getting the lyrics and singing them along to the song and they're absolutely ridiculous maybe we'll play some of those on monday podcast see if we can find that yeah we'll get the gene roddenberry estate some more money kind of a it i don't know that's that seems really weird to me to do something like that it it does but also that sounds to me like someone who understood Hollywood math before Hollywood math understood Hollywood math.

Speaker 1 So even every time it plays, even though you don't know what the lyrics are. It technically has them.
It technically has them.

Speaker 1 And Gene Roddenberry and then his estate eventually gets that money because he gets credit for half of the song, essentially.

Speaker 2 That's incredible.

Speaker 1 And apparently this was a trend in mid-century television because

Speaker 1 the same thing happened, I guess, with I Love Lucy. that I Love Lucy, the theme song to that show, which I can't do off the top of my head, but I definitely know it.

Speaker 1 That also has lyrics that no one ever knows because they're never played, but then half the money goes to Desi Lou Productions because of that.

Speaker 2 Does that mean that LG washing machines need to start paying Maude Garrett royalties?

Speaker 1 Dude, Maude's got, yeah, she's got a claim there. She should go after them.

Speaker 2 She should, because this, like years and years ago, she posted a video with a song that she made up for the like the LG washing machine jingle.

Speaker 2 And it was like, ding, dong, your clothes are clean because I am the washing machine. Something like that, right?

Speaker 2 And now, every single time I hear that jingle, I think of Ma Garrett and I think of her lyrics.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about her with that when we were talking about the Sabrina Carpenter sketch where they were doing the jingle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, same, same kind of thing. So, yeah, she should, she should stake a claim to that.

Speaker 2 Well, while we're on the topic of iconic sci-fi TV shows, Bernie, I saw that Stargate is making a big comeback. Cool.

Speaker 2 They've just signed with, I think, Amazon to do a new Stargate series for Amazon Prime. And I'm really excited for them.

Speaker 2 I'd never watched Stargate. And that's weird because it feels like a hole in my sci-fi education.

Speaker 2 And so I never followed it, but I'm excited that Stargate is getting another series because so many people love Stargate and they get more Stargate. And I'm excited for them.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm just excited because they're excited and they get something nice.

Speaker 1 What's the most fringe sci-fi thing? I'm going to insult all of our UK UK neighbors now by saying this, excluding Doctor Who, which for the U.S.

Speaker 1 was fringe for a really long time, arguably still is very fringe in the U.S. What's the most fringe sci-fi thing that you've enjoyed? Xena.
Oh, Xena, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 Did you also watch Hercules?

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 No, on it.

Speaker 1 Carl Urban should reboot that. That would be awesome.

Speaker 2 You know, he was in that series.

Speaker 1 Get the fuck out of here. Which one, Xena or Hercules? Both of them.

Speaker 2 I think he played, he played i think a couple characters in that i want to say oh god he played a god um and then he also played a human uh he played a couple different characters in that i'll look it up um then gene rodberry showed up and made the lyrics for the theme song for xena

Speaker 2 um but no i think uh i here we go every role there's an article on screen titled every role carl urban played in xena and hercules so he played here we go and

Speaker 1 cupid he played cupid oh he did That's a great role for him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 We got to get somebody to play these.

Speaker 1 I'm reading the lyrics right now for the Star Trek theme songs. Roddenberry responded to it at one point, said,

Speaker 1 apparently this is from lyricsondemand.com. So you take that for as much weight as you want to.
But apparently

Speaker 1 Roddenberry was quoted as responding to it, hey, I have to get some money somewhere. I'm sure not going to get it out of the profits of Star Trek.
Oh, for a thing that turned into a gigantic series.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but like. movies and everything.
But that was one of those things probably took time to build, right? You know the other role that Carl Urban played in Xena?

Speaker 1 He played a zombie in Dawn of the Dead.

Speaker 2 Julius Caesar, baby.

Speaker 1 Julie. What is Xena about that they have Cupid and Julius Caesar? Everything.

Speaker 2 It's about everything.

Speaker 2 But I'd say honestly, the most fringe stuff sci-fi that I watch is probably like Eureka or like Warehouse 13.

Speaker 1 Eureka's not bad.

Speaker 2 Eureka is a fun show. It was like, it was really kooky.
I'm not sure if it would like hold up, but I always loved watching it. I had the best time.
And then Warehouse 13

Speaker 2 was

Speaker 2 one of those

Speaker 2 kind of an episodic procedural where some artifact with supernatural powers has gotten out, and these two secret agents, one of whom is a believer and one of whom is a skeptic, have to go get the thing and then bring it back to be stored in this magical warehouse.

Speaker 2 But they also coexist in the same universe as Eureka. There have been crossover episodes.
Good times.

Speaker 1 Mine would be movies. So it would either be stuff like Darkstar, early John Carpenter movie that is hugely influential over Red versus Blue, or something like Outland.

Speaker 1 Do you even know what Outland is?

Speaker 2 No, we're not talking about Outlander.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm not talking about Outlander. It's Outer.

Speaker 2 You're not the biggest Outlander super fan?

Speaker 1 I don't know much about it, to be honest with you. I know that guy just recently bought a distillery somewhere, and everyone is a buzz around here about that.

Speaker 2 Time travel romance involving Scotland. That's you got it.
Enough said.

Speaker 1 Enough said. I'm there.

Speaker 1 Outland was like a western in space, and it was in the late 70s. It was Sean Connery.
Great.

Speaker 1 And also there was another one called there was a lot of cool like trippy sci-fi in the late 70s, early 80s. Saturn III is another one.
And then I went back and looked at the cast of that.

Speaker 1 It's like Farah Fawcett and an early Harvey Keitel before I ever knew who Harvey Keitel was. And yeah, it's just a really weird, creepy movie, man.

Speaker 2 And that's the most niche stuff that you've seen?

Speaker 1 I would say, yeah, probably some movies for me more than anything else, more than serious. Most like fringe

Speaker 1 sci-fi series I ever watched would probably be something that was like fringe? Like, no, no, it wasn't fringe. I was thinking about that as they said it.

Speaker 1 Like Farscape for me, which we talked about before with like the dental worm.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 I like the far skate.

Speaker 1 That was different. I always wanted to get into Babylon 5

Speaker 1 for a really, really weird, specific reason is they used a lot of Amiga graphics in Babylon 5. That's what they were known for.

Speaker 1 And I was in starting, you know, very early in production myself, and I had access to a Commodore Amiga, and it was like known as the incredible graphics computer.

Speaker 1 Or like the, you remember the silicon graphics machines that everyone talked about? Yeah, and they were like $30,000.

Speaker 2 Right, you would speak of them in like a hushed whisper.

Speaker 1 Right. Like nobody had their hands on a silicon graphics machine.
But Amiga was like something that was more consumer level. They just recently, by the way, have

Speaker 1 kicked up and restarted the Commodore brand. It's now in the hands of like some very high-level enthusiasts, and I think some even some original people from the original Commodore era.

Speaker 1 Although those people would have to be really old by this point in time, but yeah, they're moving ahead. Like they have an Instagram account and everything.

Speaker 2 They're going to let us have the unreleased eight episodes.

Speaker 1 I don't know who's looking for a Commodore in 2025, but there's guys my age, you know, that were very young and growing up with Commodore computers when

Speaker 1 your parents couldn't afford an Apple computer. You got a Commodore computer.

Speaker 2 We have Apple computer at home.

Speaker 1 Or if you're really broke, the predecessor to the Nintendo Entertainment System

Speaker 1 was a really rare console called the ColecoVision. Oh.
Yeah. Yeah.
And it was really weird. The ColecoVision had a, it had like a modular expansion slot.

Speaker 1 And one of the things you could buy, you could buy, I don't think it had a speech unit. The Intellivision had a speech unit.
But that one had where an expansion slot.

Speaker 1 Imagine this in today's market, where you could have your ColecoVision, Vision, and then you had this thing you could plug in, which was another module, which could then take Atari 2600 cartridges

Speaker 1 and made it compatible with Atari 2600. Yeah.
And it's like today, it's like, can you imagine having like a thing you add on to your Xbox that lets you play PlayStation games?

Speaker 2 Sounds good to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it'd be awesome, but there's no way they do it. No, absolutely not.
But there were kids who had, there was a really short run

Speaker 1 where Coleco Vision then had also an Atom computer. Do you remember Atom computers at all? Vaguely.
Yeah, they were very short-lived. They were very short-lived.

Speaker 1 But then the IBM PCs and the Apple computers destroyed everybody else, and Commodore and Atom never really took off. But they were bigger in Europe.
Commodore was way bigger in Europe.

Speaker 2 Well, you know who else is making a big comeback, Bernie?

Speaker 1 Me?

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