Donovan Mitchell on The Cavs #1 Seed, Career “MJ Moment,” Attending LeBron’s "Decision" & More | EP 135

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Speaker 1 Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, a Wondry Show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by DraftKings. That's right.
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Speaker 1 We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey.
This is my brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio, representing the land, baby, the 216 or 440, depending on where you are in the city.

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Speaker 1 A little canteen and and we got a special episode trav of course we do obviously from cleveland and we got a pretty cleveland episode coming up that's what i'm talking about coming to you on a friday hey

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Speaker 1 Well, listen, they did their best, and it's close enough to me. I think it's pretty cool.
It's a wild thing right there, though. But yeah, we're coming to you on a Friday with another guest episode.

Speaker 1 This time, we're getting ready for the NBA playoffs with Cleveland's own Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 1 That's right, baby. That's right.
We're going to get an NBA playoffs this time at Louisville with Lamar Jackson, rank some throwback jerseys, and so much more. You're going to love this episode.

Speaker 1 Hope everybody's getting geared up for the NBA playoffs outside of Philadelphia because Philadelphia Sixers are not very good this year, unfortunately, but Cavs are. Oh, baby.
Cavs are good.

Speaker 1 We had best ones recently. The Knicks.
The East is exciting, baby.

Speaker 1 I'm hoping Cavs Knicks find a way to meet each other in the playoffs because I've been wanting to go to a Madison Square guarding game during the playoffs since I was a kid.

Speaker 1 Are you going to remember to wear Cleveland stuff this time, Travis? What?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 talking about the Yankees game?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I'll be Cleveland threatened from here on out. Yeah, I'll be rocking Cavs gear.
And right now, I'm rocking guards gear as as well as the MLB season gets

Speaker 1 started as well.

Speaker 1 It's been a Cleveland day, baby. You guys are going to enjoy this one though, man.
Donovan's the fucking superstar on the court, a superstar human being off the court.

Speaker 1 Let's get to it. Our guest today is a first-round pick from the University of Louisville.

Speaker 1 Slam dunk contest champion, six-time NBA All-Star, and the starting shooting guard for the Cleveland Cavaliers, the number one seed, Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Donovan Richel, baby.

Speaker 1 Sir, I appreciate y'all, man. Appreciate y'all.
No, thank you for coming on, big guy. How you liking Cleveland, man? You just re-signed out there, man.
Is the city treating you well?

Speaker 1 Man, I love it, man. I tell people all the time, this big part of why I came back.
Obviously, basketball is, you know, what it is, but you know, we live here, too.

Speaker 1 Y'all know when you live, you live there. So I love it, man.
The people are great. City's great.

Speaker 1 I love the cold, too, so I'm not really tripping on that. Here we go.
There we go. That lake effect comes in.
Not everybody's ready for that lake effect.

Speaker 1 That's different. You know why it's different, but it's different, but I'm from New York, so it's not that bad.
There we go. Well,

Speaker 1 as a fellow Clevelander and a Cavs fan since I was a little kid, man, I appreciate you embracing the city, man.

Speaker 1 It's hard to keep, you know, the big superstars of the league and markets like Cleveland and in the Midwest and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So I just appreciate you embracing everything and honestly taking us to new heights and taking us to the next level, man, because this year you guys have been absolutely on fire, man.

Speaker 1 And you coming back was a huge, huge part of that, brother. Sir, I appreciate you guys.
I'm excited. I'm excited for the playoffs, too.
Yes, I'm excited. Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah. All righty.

Speaker 1 Let's start it off with some new news. Don't, I don't know if you know, but we start all of our shows off with new news.
We do like to get a new news from our guests.

Speaker 1 So typically I'll say like, new news. And then I'll come in like, new news.
So can you give us your best new news with us?

Speaker 1 New news.

Speaker 1 That's sounding like a steamboat.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
That's a that's

Speaker 1 right there. That's hey, he knows how to fit within.
There we go. You guys know you're rolling.

Speaker 1 All right, the NBA playoffs are starting today. Yes, sir.
The Cavs are the one seed in the East. This is the first time the Cavs have earned the top seed since their championship run in 2015-2016.

Speaker 1 Shout out to that season. Trav and I were at one of those games, which was awesome.
How do you feel about after 82 games?

Speaker 1 Man, I feel like, you know, we accomplished so much. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 We had the first two years and things. You know, we continue to take a step each year.
And now, you know, you just look at the evolution of really everybody on the team.

Speaker 1 You know, we got DG back to form. Avan Mobley's been all-NBA phenomenal.
Unbelievable. Defensive player of the year.

Speaker 1 Ty Jerome,

Speaker 1 sixth man of the year. We added Dre,

Speaker 1 who's also six man of the year K. Sam Merrill's been great.
Isaac's taking the step. Dean, Jared Allen played all 82 games.
Unbelievable, man.

Speaker 1 You get a big dude like that to play all 82. That shit is insane, man.
Especially in today's event. You got to love it.

Speaker 1 Exactly, exactly. But like for him, for us, man, it's just like Max Drewsk, after he started the season off, injured, coming back and being great for us to start in the lineup.
So it's great, man.

Speaker 1 Like you said, this is, it's really two seasons. You got the regular season and you got the postseason.

Speaker 1 So for what we did in the regular season, man, you know, A-plus, you know, we did a lot of positive things, learned a lot about ourselves, and now we get to translate all that, you know, to when it really gets going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, baby, when it all matters, man, we're all fucking pumped for it, dog.

Speaker 1 And I tell everybody all the time, man, NBA basketball is cool, but watching you guys play basketball together, you guys are on a completely different wavelength.

Speaker 1 You guys move the ball so fucking well. You guys get up and down the floor.

Speaker 1 You have so many different styles of basketball depending on if you guys got your starting five or those two six man of the year candidates that you guys got.

Speaker 1 So it's like, it's just so fun to watch you guys go to work.

Speaker 1 And then on top of that, when you guys have home games, I wish I'm on the floor every because you guys get the stadium fucking rocking, man. You guys make sure that the Kaz fans are in it, man.

Speaker 1 And I just love it, man. I can't wait to get back for a game in this playoffs, man.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. And we appreciate that, man.

Speaker 1 The crowd, man, is fucking.

Speaker 1 Unreal, bro. Like, you know, like the game, I didn't play that game when y'all came.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. We got to get back this year just so we can see my man get out there.
It's just different. The city is different.
The fans are different.

Speaker 1 I was here during one of the finals games in 2017, maybe my first year I got drafted. And they really don't, nothing beats it.
You got the whiteout jersey or the blackout shirt.

Speaker 1 It's just different.

Speaker 1 What's the announcer? Cleveland Heights.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's been there.

Speaker 1 Before I got to the league, I was like, man, like when I got traded here, I was like, man, like, I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 He gets it rocking. He gets it rocking.
He's, he's every year, every, every game. He's, he's always good.
He's good with it for sure. Trump's been doing it for a while, man.

Speaker 1 I actually played basketball with his little brother up at Heights, man, in high school, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's funny. I was all tied in.
But we're recording this a little early. So we don't know exactly who the Cavs are playing yet.

Speaker 1 Do you like the play-in format? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like it's almost like half of the league gets a chance to make the playoffs now instead of like just the top eight teams at both conferences. I think it's good from a

Speaker 1 viewing standpoint, from like an intensity standpoint, from a, you know, every game. Like you look at the last game, the Warriors Clippers, like all eyes were on that game.

Speaker 1 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I think from that standpoint, it's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 As a one and two seed, not so much because then we got to wait till Friday to kind of figure out what we're doing. Because last year we were four, so we knew all week who we were playing.

Speaker 1 We knew we were playing Orlando. The year before that, we knew we were playing New York.
But from a one and two seed, I wish we knew

Speaker 1 all week. We know who we were playing.
But I think from a fan standpoint, it's definitely like that was a high-intensity game, man. That Warriors-Clippers game.
They can still

Speaker 1 doing what he does.

Speaker 1 Kawhi, James, the guys, you know, competing at a high level. So from a viewer standpoint, it's awesome.
So I think that's the cool part. But, you know, selfishly speaking, I wish we knew

Speaker 1 all week for sure. How much does it change up based on the opponent that you're going to end up seeing? Like, for us, it's similar.

Speaker 1 You know, let's say somebody has the one seed locked up and you're waiting waiting to see who's going to win that first playoff game.

Speaker 1 You end up preparing a lot of times for both teams and seeing kind of the different structures of both of them because

Speaker 1 you're trying to get ahead of that,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 it changes up a lot in football. How much does it change up as somebody who I don't know nothing about strategy for basketball, to be honest with you?

Speaker 1 How much does it change up based on the opponent you're playing, what you guys are going to do? Yeah, I think

Speaker 1 I don't think you plan right now. I think you kind of let the first game happen.
I think you kind of narrow it down to two teams. I think you don't let it go to four.

Speaker 1 This is my second time doing this. The first time was

Speaker 1 in Utah when we were the one seed, and we prepared for just two. I think we're doing something similar right now.
I think you kind of let tonight's game happen,

Speaker 1 and then you are cool. It's going to be either Orlando or Atlanta.
You narrow that down and wait till Wednesday. That game happens.
Then it's like, all right, I bet. You know, you prepare for

Speaker 1 those two teams and kind of just leave it at that. But it's kind of similar to what you're doing, but I don't think you prepared for all four because that's that's shaky.
Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker 1 That can be true.

Speaker 1 The majority of our fan base is really football and all that. I know you were a multi-sport guy playing, I believe, baseball, right? You were a baseball, basketball guy.
Um,

Speaker 1 heck yeah, man, and you went to Louisville, the the mecca for for baseball, really, the Louisville sluggard and everything. Um, did you did you ever like think about playing baseball at Louisville?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, not at Louisville. Um, Coach Petino was enough.

Speaker 1 Man,

Speaker 1 I had Petino making a run in my bracket this year. I do too, I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 I had them winning the whole thing, to be honest.

Speaker 1 That kind of hurt me. I had them going all the way.
I did, you know, but like I said, those Petino practices, dog, like you didn't want to do shit else after that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I don't think I had much time

Speaker 1 to do that. Our team, you know, that year I was there, we had two guys, I think, made the league, or three or three.
You know, Corey Ray played for the Rays.

Speaker 1 Yep, uh, Will Smith, who just won the World Series for the Dodgers, he's a catcher. Wow, uh, Brandon McKay,

Speaker 1 um, he was there as well, starting pitcher. I forgot where he's at now, maybe Detroit.
Josh Rogers is on the Yankees. Um, we got a lot of guys who were really talented when I was there.

Speaker 1 Um, I'm definitely missing a bunch, yeah. Uh, so I wasn't that level, I wasn't that good at that point.
You know, I took two years off, but um, I definitely didn't want to play basketball.

Speaker 1 That was not my man, not my joke, my route.

Speaker 1 When did it really set in that that was what you wanted to do? My 10th grade year, I broke my wrist and junior year. I was like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I just missed playing basketball. Like, just as a kid, you're just like, you know, you just want to hoop.
Like, you know what I mean? And that's when I really started taking it seriously.

Speaker 1 It was my junior year of high school. And that point on, you know, just heavily backed, yeah.
Well, there's only one thing to do.

Speaker 1 You know, you got to win three NBA championships in a row, and then you just go start playing base. Baseball.

Speaker 1 That's how you do it right there. What position did you play again?

Speaker 1 Pitcher and shortstop. I was nice.

Speaker 1 I'm a humble person, but I was... No, we know.
We know the deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't want to take away anything from the guys who play baseball because it's the hardest shit to make the league anyway.

Speaker 1 But I felt like my chances

Speaker 1 were.

Speaker 1 You were looking left and right. You were seeing the guys that you were playing with.
You see them in the league and you're just like, yeah, I probably couldn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if I would have dedicated myself,

Speaker 1 I think I would have had a shot for sure. Anybody with a nickname Spider is going to be a damn good shortstop.
I know that. All right.
Come on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the one thing I couldn't do, though, is I couldn't play football. No, no, come on, man.
I've seen you. You're one of the most athletic guys I've ever seen on

Speaker 1 the floor. Every time I got the body forward, I got all that.
But like, I can't take a hit for.

Speaker 1 We'll keep it moving here. I was telling you a lot of people listening to this that are football

Speaker 1 lovers.

Speaker 1 But in terms of the basketball storylines going into the NBA right now, we got the Lakers trade uh for luca they got you know all these all these crazy job morant celebrations the the nuggets actually fired their coach right before the postseason started and even the houston rockets absolutely do a 180 from last year to this year um and are the two seed in the west and um you know quiet leonard just he's healthy for a playoff run what are the what are the craziest like what does it feel like being in this crazy melty pot of like the nba storylines and and you guys being the number one one seed in the east yeah i mean it means our league is in a good place you know what i'm saying like you know at the end of the day this is a sport we you know like we play the sport for the sport but it's also business too like it's good for business like you know i mean there's a lot going on there's a lot of positive things going on in this league a lot of talent in this league you know what i mean so i think that's that's something that you know

Speaker 1 We truly appreciate. We enjoy.

Speaker 1 Waking up to seeing Lucas traded is crazy.

Speaker 1 That was wild. I mean, that's got to be on the team group chat right there do you see mark cuban's facial expression when luca drops his like high like uh of the season i know i know mark

Speaker 1 sure man i know he is but it's just like nobody's safe like you know what i mean no nobody's safe y'all know it and y'all and y'all support like nobody's safe and you know it's

Speaker 1 I'm speechless still to this day. You know, even watching him hold back like

Speaker 1 their GM can't even do interviews with microphones or cameras right now.

Speaker 1 He just feels like he's on such a hot seat that he has to do it a specific way. But who knows how that's going to end up shaking out in the West? I know we got the best team in the East.

Speaker 1 I will say this, though.

Speaker 1 We mentioned the Luca trading going back and him dropping 45

Speaker 1 in Dallas.

Speaker 1 How was it for you playing back in Utah? Because you started there, you had such an awesome start to your career there. When you came to Cleveland and went back there for the first time,

Speaker 1 how did that feel? Because me and Jason, we've only played on one team in the NFL. So I'm just curious, how did that feel going back into a place that you had called home?

Speaker 1 I was excited for that game, to be honest. I think just because, you know,

Speaker 1 the only other return, like, you know,

Speaker 1 the GOAT of return games, I guess you want to call it, is Bron coming back here, right?

Speaker 1 So like, for me, it was like, man, like, this is going to be fun. And at that time, I didn't know if I was going to get booed.
I didn't know if I was going to get cheered. Like, it wasn't dead.

Speaker 1 Like, Lucas was like, we knew they were going to come cheer. Like I didn't really knew, I didn't really know what was going to happen.

Speaker 1 So I told my teammates, like, look, I'm an unselfish guy. I know I like to pass the ball and whatnot, but there's one game I promise you, I'm going to shoot every time I touch

Speaker 1 back in Utah.

Speaker 1 No, it was fun.

Speaker 1 The reception was great, you know, and you just feel like you're playing at home for real because you're used to the rims, used to all that, you know, the background, you're seeing familiar faces, and the people are great around the organization and whatnot.

Speaker 1 So it was definitely one of those moments where it was great to go back and see everybody. I didn't know what to expect, but

Speaker 1 I had a lot of fun for sure. Yeah.
Hell yeah. That's awesome.
What's up with the John Morant celebration? Is that the finger guns thing again? Oh, he took it up a little. He took it up a notch.

Speaker 1 I got to see it. What was it up a notch? It wasn't just like a pew-pew.
It wasn't like a little.

Speaker 1 He done got the grenades now.

Speaker 1 I say this. The celebration is hard, though.
I'm not going to lie. The celebration is hard.
The whole, you know what I mean? The whole, all that.

Speaker 1 I saw Dirk doing it in the suite. He was over here.
He's feeling it.

Speaker 1 Like, to me, I'm like, all right, that's, that's dope. You got kids doing it now, but, you know, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's a lot. Like, you know, it's been a whole

Speaker 1 thing, man. You know, my message is leave guns alone, kids.
Everybody, leave guns alone.

Speaker 1 You know, for the celebration. Do what you do.

Speaker 1 But I think in the concept, in the con, like the, the, sorry, not to go up, but in the, in the idea of like a basketball game, like, shooting is more like I'm killing.

Speaker 1 Like I'm shooting the basketball. Like Pistol Pete is one of the most iconic NBA players of all.
Name is a gun, right?

Speaker 1 This context. Like, you know what I mean? It's Christ is basketball.
Like, you know what I mean? Like, nobody's saying, let's go play with guns outside. That's not what we're advocating for.

Speaker 1 I feel you. All right.
Now, that does it for new news.

Speaker 1 We did our homework, though. Outside of the playoffs, we do want to ask you about an insane career milestone.
You dropped 71 fucking points against the Bulls, man. So crazy.

Speaker 1 Is that the most, like in terms of high school, college, that's got to be the most you've ever scored, right? For sure. Yeah, the most by far.
And you did it at the highest level. That is insane, man.

Speaker 1 What does it feel like?

Speaker 1 I tell people, like, it didn't feel crazy until overtime. Like, because we were down 20.
People don't understand. We were down 20 at halftime.

Speaker 1 I had...

Speaker 1 What? 16 points at halftime? I had 16 points at halftime.

Speaker 1 Time out. You had 71 and 16 at half.
It's It's crazy. Why is this the craziest?

Speaker 1 I was in a shooting slope about like a week and a half, two weeks before that. I mean, like, couldn't make a shot.

Speaker 1 And it was one of those times where, like, you know, like, when you're supposed to catch a ball and it's like, damn, you drop it.

Speaker 1 It's like, you're just going through one of the moments where it's just like, damn, it's not rolling. Like, it's just not going well right now.

Speaker 1 So, like, that was the week and a half stretch it was for me. I'm getting good looks, not falling.

Speaker 1 And I never forget. And I don't know if I even told Brad Doherty this, who's right over here somewhere.
All right. There we go.

Speaker 1 You know, I told him, like, he told me, he sat down, he was like, keep going, you know, and then he brought up MJ.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying that's what got me going, but like, it was very, he brought up MJ in the sense of like just the way he competed, or just comparing it to me in some way, shape, or form.

Speaker 1 And then after the game, I was like, holy shit, like, you know what I mean? Like, I had my little, like, oh, yeah, my MJ moment. Like, you know what I mean? Hell yeah, you were in the zone.

Speaker 1 Throughout that process, throughout the game, it didn't feel crazy until I looked up and I saw like 68 or 69. I was was like,

Speaker 1 this is fucking

Speaker 1 shit. That's what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 1 I'm like smiling and I'm looking up like, you know, my teammates like, oh, missed the free throw. Like, that was really when it really, really hit me what I was doing for real.

Speaker 1 You're breaking the internet, man. You had social media going nuts.

Speaker 1 The closest thing I've ever felt to that was beer pong. You just locked in and I'm just draining them.
It's like, yeah, next on the table. Bye.

Speaker 1 You slap the water off of it, the beer off of it, and you're freaking rolling. Somebody's walking in the door, you're bouncing it on them.

Speaker 1 It's just everything's going in.

Speaker 1 God, I'm the fucking man. That's got to be insane on an NBA court.

Speaker 1 What's a good feeling on Verpong's table?

Speaker 1 I've been there.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. What would be the equivalent in the NFL to 71 points? I'm asking both of you guys that.
What do you think it would be?

Speaker 1 I mean, the Randy lost side.

Speaker 1 It's got to be the touchdown record, no? I would say either touchdown

Speaker 1 rushing yards in a game or touchdown. I think

Speaker 1 if you get over like 230 on the ground in a game, I feel like

Speaker 1 that's a milestone. I think Randy had like three catches for over like 150 or like 200 yards or something like that.
Didn't he have that?

Speaker 1 It was like three touchdowns, three catches for like 180 yards. It was something stupid like that.
What about the touchdown record for quarterback? Like, what if the seven touchdowns were.

Speaker 1 He Foles. Nick Foles.
I knew that.

Speaker 1 Jason was snapping him in the ball the whole game. He had six in a game.

Speaker 1 We installed a brand new set of passing plays with Chip Kelly's offense, and the Raiders had no fucking idea what we were doing. Deshaun Jackson's running all over the place.
It was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 It was so fun. Yeah, I feel like that's definitely

Speaker 1 rushing yards for sure. What's the single game rushing record? I don't even know.
I think I saw Jamal Lewis break it as a Cleveland Brown. Really? I think

Speaker 1 Jamal Lewis, I think it went for like three seconds. It might have got broken since then, but Travis is right.
When Jamal was in Cleveland, I think he did set it.

Speaker 1 This is why we pay these guys. Adrian Peterson.
$2.96. No way.
That is not it.

Speaker 1 One game. That's amazing.
We mentioned you went to Louisville

Speaker 1 at the same time as Lamar Jackson. You guys were like the football and basketball

Speaker 1 icons at that point in college sports.

Speaker 1 How was it? Did you guys, did you always go to the football games when you could? I mean, seeing that man live in college was probably fucking unreal. Bro, it was crazy because

Speaker 1 you watched the progression. You know, like he came in, he backed somebody up freshman year.
Yeah. No, excuse me.
He was third string. I think.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Reggie. He's at Louisville now.
Reggie Bonifant. He was there.
He got hurt. Then the backup to him got hurt.
And then he played.

Speaker 1 Threw an interception. Didn't look like running around.
Didn't really look like he had it all together. Trying to figure it out.
You know, freshman year. Like, he'll try to figure it out.

Speaker 1 And then that next season, man, it was just like,

Speaker 1 I don't know what clicked, but you see it now in the field. Like, he's, he's, he's a pro.
He goes about it. Like, you know, he's proven his throwing.
He's making his reads, you know, different things.

Speaker 1 He's when to run, when to pass. And I don't know if it was that year you went to Ivan or the year after.
You're just watching, like, what do you call it? Showtime Legacy.

Speaker 1 You're just watching Showtime. You watch it.

Speaker 1 Going to Florida State out by 40. Like, you know what I'm saying? Jumping over people against Syracuse.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 it was his school. Like, it wasn't like Louisville was a basketball town.
Oh, yeah. But those years, it was like, it was him.
Like, even though Casino was there, we were doing it. It it was him.

Speaker 1 Like, it was it was one of the craziest things I ever seen. Everybody was hype.
Every game, every game was lit. Like, it was

Speaker 1 to see what he's doing now, I'm not shocked. Like, you know what I mean? You just saw it.
Um, and then we used to hoop, too. That's why people don't know.
We used to hoop. He could hoop a little?

Speaker 1 He's nice. Like, he got bounce, and he could really, he could really hoop.
So, okay, so

Speaker 1 it was crazy. We would have dunk contests and different things.
And

Speaker 1 he was definitely one of the most athletic guys I've ever seen. What's he doing? Dunk contests? Are you going in between the legs? 360.

Speaker 1 A few windmills.

Speaker 1 We had some guys on that team too who made the league. I don't know if you know John Grenard, who's on the Texans.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Yeah, he was on that team.

Speaker 1 I'm missing names, but there's a bunch of guys. We had a talented team.
We had a talented group, but yeah, he was obviously

Speaker 1 the lead for sure. He's another level, man.
I still, even I tell this story a lot, you know,

Speaker 1 we're in a tag off period in the practice, and he gives a juke move to a linebacker, makes this dude fall down, not even trying to tackle him, just trying to touch him.

Speaker 1 Like, they're playing tag, basically. And my man falling all over the place and both sidelines.
Like, that's how you know when you're good.

Speaker 1 You're in a joint practice, and both sidelines are like that. Oh,

Speaker 1 he's got it. What the fuck was he? He's going like, oh, shit.
Yeah, he's different. I've always wanted, I've saw him play when he played out here.

Speaker 1 Cleveland fans did not like that I wore his jersey. Didn't realize that that was a renown.
It's a personal connection. They got a a respect.
Didn't realize that that was a big thing, but they got it.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 he's watching him play live, and obviously y'all play against him. But

Speaker 1 I was pissed when y'all beat him, Trevor. I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker 1 That dude is a stud, man.

Speaker 1 It takes all 11 on the field to tackle that man or try and stop that guy.

Speaker 1 Every time we play him, it's always an instant classic.

Speaker 1 Literally,

Speaker 1 he's doing something crazy every single game we played him. And we've gone back and forth, man.
That was the ACC at that point, right? You guys were in the ACC? Yeah. We're still in the ACC.

Speaker 1 When me and Jason were in college, Louisville was still in the Big East. So

Speaker 1 I wasn't sure if you

Speaker 1 back in the day, man, back when the Big East, Madison Square, Guardian, man. Especially for basketball, man.
It was never a football conference, but that basketball conference was so awesome.

Speaker 1 That basketball was like the Syracuse,

Speaker 1 Y'all, Louisville,

Speaker 1 Georgetown. Did you ever go to the Big East tourney up in New York? I've went to,

Speaker 1 I want to say one time, maybe. Maybe one time, but that was really it.
Who was your team growing up? I was going to say.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Once you knew basketball was your Carolina?

Speaker 1 Even before that, like Michael Jordan, Carolina.

Speaker 1 I was, until I committed to Louisville,

Speaker 1 I was waiting until I got an offer. I was putting schools to the side.
I was like, no, if I get an offer from Carolina, I'm going. I don't care if I sit.
I don't care if I play.

Speaker 1 I I don't care if I walk on. I'm going to Carolina.
This is what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 And then I visited Louisville and I was like, well, fuck all that.

Speaker 1 But no, that was, Carolina was the school. It's funny.
We had the same dream, man, except for I only got an offer from the Mac in basketball. Shout out to the Mac, though.
I'm maxing all day.

Speaker 1 Hold the Squire, though. That's not, that's too sport athlete.
There you go. You know what I'm saying? Well, he could have played at Cincinnati if you wouldn't have got hurt.

Speaker 1 That was kind of in the way.

Speaker 1 I think there was a lot of stuff that was, I don't know, needed to get ironed out for me to play on the basketball team. One was me going to class.

Speaker 1 I had to actually go to class if I wanted to play on the basketball team. Didn't West Virginia come in late too with Bob Huggins?

Speaker 1 Listen, Hugs, Hugs came in. There was a chance for me to be on the team and then earn a scholarship, I think.

Speaker 1 But that whole situation was weird because Hugs had just got there. Oh, that is whatever.
But that's cool, though, man. So

Speaker 1 you never got the call from Carolina? Never got the call. The The only thing they're kicking themselves.
Coolest thing, the coolest thing that I, in college, we played at Carolina. We lost.
I had

Speaker 1 one of my career highs at the moment at that time. And Roy Williams said, man, I made a mistake in the handshake line.
That's respect.

Speaker 1 I was like, you know what? That was probably, at that time, that was the coolest thing to me. I didn't really care.
I was like, all right, like, I may not be there.

Speaker 1 I got the respect. That's awesome to me.
You got the respect. And he told me that.
And I was like, all right, like, hell yeah. Especially for, like, you know, you want to go somewhere, you hear that.

Speaker 1 That's that's the ultimate, that's the ultimate respect. We were talking a little bit about Cleveland being upset with you for wearing the Lamar jersey.

Speaker 1 Uh, we got to talk a little bit about you attending the decision in person.

Speaker 1 How about that? The most controversial

Speaker 1 thing in Cleveland history, to be honest with you. No, not that.
I remember when he tapped it.

Speaker 1 It's all been forgiven. It's all been forgiven.

Speaker 1 But at the time, it was insane. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I went to, I lived in New York. I went to school in Greenwich, Connecticut.
And

Speaker 1 everybody was just like, yo, like, Brian's doing the decision at the Boys and Girls Club. I'm like, here? Like,

Speaker 1 why is he like, you know what I mean? Didn't believe it. And then this time, I'm a Knick fan.

Speaker 1 I love Brown, but I'm a Knick fan. Like, if I had to choose a team, I'm a Knicks fan.

Speaker 1 New York was in the running for it. Right.
So at that time, yeah, they were in the running.

Speaker 1 I'm like, mom, it was like one of those things, you know, you could drop up at the mall to hang out with friends. You could drop, my, you got to drop me off here.
I'm doing it. So we go.

Speaker 1 There is, I don't, maybe

Speaker 1 dramatic when I say, there's probably like a 2,000 people outside at this place. That's crazy.
And you have no idea where he's coming in from.

Speaker 1 And I never forget, we see a car come down the hill. It's like a regular car, like a white Nissan.
Like he tried to blend in. So just go

Speaker 1 smart. Smart in the back.
I wasn't inside. People think I was inside.
People try to point out that I was one of the kids. I wasn't wasn't me.
I wasn't inside. I was outside.

Speaker 1 And when he said, I was probably the only person that wanted him to go to Miami to join in the crowd, in the crowd. I was like, probably the only person.
Everybody else is Knicks fans. Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 1 Okay. So I'm like, all right.
Like, I would Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosch. I'm hyped.

Speaker 1 So once he decides it, it was like a riot. Like, I tell you, the level of like it was not safe for any children to be outside.

Speaker 1 You're going to do this in the New York Boys and Girls Club and say you're going down south? Right. Like that was,

Speaker 1 I was in danger. Like I was like, all right, I need to figure out how to get out of here because people are purely pissed off.

Speaker 1 Like people are like trying to get to the, get to where he entered from and all that. But I'm hyped.
I'm screaming like Miami, like, yeah, you know, all those different things. But it was cool, man.

Speaker 1 It was, it was a cool experience. Full circle moment.
I'm here now. Like, you know what I mean? Like, this, it's one of those life moments that it's just like, you can't script these things.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? And

Speaker 1 I hope Cleveland fans are okay with me saying I want him to go to Miami. I did.

Speaker 1 But, you know,

Speaker 1 it's one of those things, man. It's just really cool to really be here now and, you know, kind of do our own legacy in that regard as well.
I think it's pretty dope. And you're doing it, man.

Speaker 1 Cleveland, at the time, it was crazy. I mean, it was another level of like.

Speaker 1 people mad and like hatred.

Speaker 1 But like Travis said, it's all been, you know, water under the bridge at this point. He ended up coming back.
It ended up being awesome for LeBron's career.

Speaker 1 Like, what ended up transpiring ended up being great for everybody involved. Cleveland still got their championship.
Except for the Knicks. The Knicks didn't get the...
That's right.

Speaker 1 The Knicks definitely lost out big time.

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Speaker 1 After almost four years of treatments, I was finally cancer-free. My mom's like, where do you want to go to celebrate? I'm like, let's go somewhere tropical.

Speaker 1 And then pilot hopped on the intercom and started talking about me. And I was like, what is going on here? My wife beat cancer too, and I wanted to celebrate his special moment.

Speaker 2 That's Bill, a real United pilot.

Speaker 1 We brought him drinks and donuts. We all signed a card.
I was smiling ear to ear. Best flight ever, for sure.
That's how good leads the way.

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Speaker 1 Let's talk a little bit of Cleveland, baby.

Speaker 1 What was your first impression of the land, man? Did you know anything about Cleveland before coming to it? Not a damn thing, man, to be honest.

Speaker 1 I never left the hotel, but that's me in general. I don't leave the hotel.

Speaker 1 So all I saw from that ritz was what's the area where they're building a new practice facility now?

Speaker 1 Oh, the water, yeah, right there on the

Speaker 1 not the water. It's um, where all the, what is it? Tower city.
Tower

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, you're just talking about the Tower City and everything.
I'll tell you what, Tower City

Speaker 1 could be a fucking scene. Exactly.
So I was like, that's all I saw. So I'm thinking, okay,

Speaker 1 that's what they got. And then they got the Guardians and the Browns.
And, you know, that's it. Yeah.
Yeah, man. When I got here, I moved to the west side.

Speaker 1 And just being around

Speaker 1 like the energy that is in this place for real, like the people, they're cool.

Speaker 1 They rock with you. They leave you alone.
Like, they'll let you be.

Speaker 1 There's so much more here than I thought, to to be honest, like from the food standpoint. Um,

Speaker 1 Playhouse Square is dope. Um,

Speaker 1 I'm, I don't want to give away all the locations I'll be going to, but like the Beachwood Mall is probably fire. I'll be there a bunch.
You go to Beachwood,

Speaker 1 you're coming over to the east side. Oh, yeah, all right, yeah.
I take the long drive, I take the long drive over there. Please don't come follow me over there on a random Tuesday.

Speaker 1 My hoodie up, then I go to a lot of, I actually go to a lot of like high school games, like try to, you know, show love in the community in that regard.

Speaker 1 I think is cool, but you know, I don't really, you know, I don't be outside. I don't really do too much.
I'm really just a homebody. And, you know, so for me, this place is perfect for me.

Speaker 1 You said Playhouse Square. You going up there, seeing some ballets or some plays? Yeah.
So, no, it was,

Speaker 1 I went to see Alicia Keys's show in

Speaker 1 New York. So then I ended up, you know, we ended up doing something together again here in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 And then we have, we have team events there and whatnot. And just seeing it all lit up at night is

Speaker 1 pretty fun. Oh, it's magical, man.
The food scene is really good. I really enjoy eating downtown.

Speaker 1 I've got a few spots I got to shout out to my favorite spot. I can't eat there much because I got to stay in shape.
It's Zanzibar. Oh, yeah.
Zanzibar. I got to check this out.
Right by the arena.

Speaker 1 Yeah, by the way. Right by.
So it's over, like what, what, six?

Speaker 1 See, now you get, I don't know the streets.

Speaker 1 Jason doesn't know either. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Don't let me fuck with you. I was in Cleveland Heights all growing up.
I barely ever went out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Why do you think Cleveland gets a bad rap? I think because people only go downtown and they see

Speaker 1 what I saw, which was not Tower City. I'm thinking of all the construction area.
I don't know the mining. I don't know what it's called.
I know what you're talking about, like the outside of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right there. So they see that and they think that that just represents the entire city of Cleveland, which is not the case.
And it also is cold. And some people just don't like the cold.

Speaker 1 I like the cold. There we go.
I prefer it to be cold than it. You know what I mean? And I'm right there with you, man.
I think you hit the nail on the head.

Speaker 1 It's like Cleveland isn't like a big downtown city. It's just not.
Like a lot of the, what happens happens happens on like the outskirts.

Speaker 1 And unless you know where you're going, it's hard to kind of like, it doesn't have like that thriving area like a lot of other places do that like tourists like.

Speaker 1 But once you know people and like you know spots, like it's great people. It's very community driven.
There's like a personal connection that the city has that I think is charming.

Speaker 1 It's just hard for tourists to feel that. You pretty much are saying that exact same thing.
They make you feel, you feel the love too. That's my thing.

Speaker 1 Like you feel the genuine love, like it's especially from a, and you feel it in the arena, but that's natural. Anywhere you play, you feel the energy in the arena.

Speaker 1 But when you leave, you feel like, like you're one of them. Like, you know, you feel like, you know, you feel that.

Speaker 1 And I think that's something that is really underrated, especially in our, in our profession, because, you know, we're professionals. Like, this is just business.
Like, you're not college.

Speaker 1 This isn't high school. Like, you know what I'm saying? But like the love you feel

Speaker 1 from the community is top tier. You know what I mean? I think it's something that really drove me to stay.
I keep telling people that. And people didn't believe me until I resigned, man.

Speaker 1 I kept trying to tell you.

Speaker 1 Because you just don't see that

Speaker 1 out of all the superstars, man. And as a Cleveland kid myself, man, thank you for coming back again, bro.

Speaker 1 The tourist destinations. Have you been to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? You know what's crazy? I've never been.
I've drive by a wall.

Speaker 1 I've never been. You have more fun.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you, it's fun to go to, man. It is shocking.

Speaker 1 All the memorabilia they have in there, all the experiences. It's pretty dope.
That one's good. The Science museum's good.
Oh,

Speaker 1 that was the one that's good.

Speaker 1 I'm a nerd, so I'd love that type of shit. It's right next door.

Speaker 1 It's right next door.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's right next door. It's in between the football stadium and the rock and roll.
Oh, so that's that gray building that's like they got the little okay. I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 Okay, I didn't know that. Yeah, that's it's right there.
I used to go there, used to sign up every year for that field trip, baby. Have you been Cedar Point or I guess now it's six flags, right?

Speaker 1 I gotta go. That's the one thing I really, I really want to do that.
I really want to do it. Cedar Point's the best in the world, man.
I'm telling you, you got to do it. I got it.

Speaker 1 That's the one I really, I really got to do. But also.
Do you like roller coasters? No.

Speaker 1 But I got to do it. I'm afraid.
I'm afraid. I'm afraid.
But I'll do it because I really want to go. And everybody keeps talking about it.

Speaker 1 But like, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of Flaunt, let alone roller coasters.

Speaker 1 We got to get you on Millennium Forest. I don't go on Millennium Forest.

Speaker 1 He said, I'm afraid. I can't wait to sit next to to you on Millennium Forest.
We're going. I can't do it.
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 I'll go, I'll observe and I'll just go, you know, be supportive to my friends whoever I want to go. I'll be chilling on the bench with the Dipper Dots.
Exactly. That's exactly what I've been doing.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So when we were growing up, there were the Cleveland Rockets.
There was a WNBA team in Cleveland. You said you would love to see the WNBA team return to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Have you heard any updates about this? Any murmurs throughout the facilities or anything like that? Can you give us a little insight if we could actually get a WNBA team back in Cleveland?

Speaker 1 I won't give too much.

Speaker 1 I've heard different things, but I won't say what I've heard. You know what I mean? Obviously, no more than probably what you guys have heard, to be honest.

Speaker 1 But I think it'd be dope. I mean, I love just going to watch the W in general.
First of all, they're in a phenomenal place and they're only going to continue to get bigger and bigger and better.

Speaker 1 I think Cleveland is the perfect place for it. Just like I said, everything I just said to you about the community, the vibe, the support, the love.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I think this is, you know, a perfect place for it. And on top of that, the season's in the summer.
I mean, this is this in the summer, man, is thrive.

Speaker 1 Like, we need more teams in the league for sure. I mean, you know, Cleveland's the perfect place.
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 1 All right. You want to get to some blind rankings? Blind rankings.
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Let's do it, man. Something we like to do on this show is something called blind rankings.

Speaker 1 We show you 10 things and we rank them one to 10 without knowing what's coming next. I'm sure you've played before.
Do we want to do dunk contests or do we want to do NBA throwback jerseys?

Speaker 1 I'll let you pick. We do throwback jerseys.
Throwback jerseys. All right, let's do some throwback jerseys.
We're doing blind ranking one to ten. Hit us with the first one, Brandon.
Oh,

Speaker 1 Orlando Magic from the Penny Hardaway and Shaquille O'Neal era. These jerseys are awesome.
Classics. I'm going to go.
I'm going to go. Classics.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go 10, though. I'm not going to lie.
You're going to go 10?

Speaker 3 The pinstripe?

Speaker 1 I do think there's going to be a lot above this. I do agree.
That's why I'm going to go 10 because I don't want to put. Yeah, I feel like this is 10.
I'll ask you this. What do you think is better?

Speaker 1 The all-black ones are like the Tracy McGrady blue. The ones with the little blue, little blue is hard.
The shorts still need to go crazier than the top. I'm going to say that.
The stars on the side.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The shorts go crazy than the top.
All right. Starting off with 10.
Sorry, Shaq. Ooh, the Miami Heat Retro.
That's clean. It's just a clean jersey.
See, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 The problem with some of the bottoms.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 The bottoms are better than the top. That's that.
You know what I'm saying? No, we're doing the whole. It's a whole outfit.

Speaker 1 We'll definitely rank the whole outfit. I'm going to go nine.
I'm going to go nine.

Speaker 1 We're hoping right now that we get through the cherse.

Speaker 1 Please. We're going more throwback than I thought maybe here.
Okay, let's go. What do we got next, Brendan?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now we're talking. To me, that's top three.
Easy. Man, I'm trying to think what, oh man, with the mountains in the background.
Again, the shorts are.

Speaker 1 The shorts are elite. The shorts are elite.
Utah jazz from the 90s. And the thing is, if it's a 90s jersey, I'm probably going to be biased towards that jersey for whatever reason, man.

Speaker 1 I just well, 90s have some good color schemes. And the only thing I don't like about this is that jazz has nothing to do with mountains.
When I think of jazz, I don't think of mountains.

Speaker 1 I think of New Orleans or something like that. I don't think about

Speaker 1 it. Have you ever listened to some jazz up in the Rockies? I have not.
I have not. There you go.
But these are dope. I love this color scheme.
Do you want to throw it at three?

Speaker 1 Let's go two. I'm with it.
I'm with it. That's a solid two right there.

Speaker 1 These ones, hey, these raptors. Oh, my gosh, they're good.
Fuck, man. That's a good one, dog.
Does it get better than that? This one might be one of my all-time favorite hats.

Speaker 1 I'm hoping the Grizzly jersey I'm thinking of is the one.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, it's. Hopefully, it's there.
All right, so we want to go three with this one because these Raptor jerseys were fucking. I go three.
Unbelievable, man. Three should be two.
I hear it.

Speaker 1 Do we want to switch them? I guess we can't now. You already lost.

Speaker 1 Damn it. All right, Philly.
Sixers. Philadelphia Sixers, Iverson Era.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's even their best jersey, but I don't think so either. I'm going to go seven.
I'll go seven. I'll go seven.

Speaker 1 I'll go seven. Just because it was AI.

Speaker 1 Honestly, it's really because he's wearing the jersey, to be honest. No doubt.
It's just that number three with his name. Everybody else in that jersey is like, oh, that's what we mean.

Speaker 1 We can turn this up.

Speaker 1 It's the same kid.

Speaker 1 Oh, a throwback Nets jersey right there. So is this

Speaker 1 which Nets is this? That's a great great question. So now it's obviously Brooklyn.
Is this ABA? ABA. ABA? Okay, these are really cool.
That's New Jersey still? Is that still Jersey?

Speaker 1 That's a good question. I wouldn't even...
That is Jersey. That is Jersey.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 We got 10, 9, 8. I'm going to go 5.
I really like these. I like the red, white, and blue.
So I'm going to go 5. There's something nice about it being clean.
The colors worked well.

Speaker 1 The design is unique.

Speaker 1 I like it too. And on top of that, it's Dr.
J, baby. Like I said, it's about the person who's wearing it.
You know what I mean? That afro gives it at least two bumps up. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 That thing was aerodynamic, man. This shit was crazy.

Speaker 1 All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 And my dog, Ron Harper, in the billionaire.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go. The socks are crazy.

Speaker 1 Are those the Reebok pumps? Bro, those socks. No, no, no.
Those are nice. Those are nice.
They look like the Jazzer sizing socks. What's up,

Speaker 1 don't do my guy Harper like that, man.

Speaker 1 The socks are crazy. I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 I don't know any other jersey besides the, I'm going to go four. I'm going to go four here.
Let's keep it up there. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I actually think I have the Brad Daugherty version of this jersey. You do, for sure.
I don't even think these are the best ones, to be honest. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 My favorite ones are like the Sean Kemp and Bobby Sura era.

Speaker 1 The black and blue

Speaker 1 is the best calves jersey, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 The paint splash.

Speaker 1 I used to love the little

Speaker 1 with the little

Speaker 1 paint like swipe, like the paintbrush.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the splash jersey is what they call it, I believe. No,

Speaker 1 the main color is yellow or whatever, yellow or maroon. Oh, I know what we're talking about.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 like that.

Speaker 1 We're talking about a completely different jersey. Those are fire two.
I'll tell you, I think those are the Austin car joints. Yeah, the ACs.
Yeah, the AC. Shout out to AC.
They got it on right here.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 up top.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they got it on top. They got it on top.
Those are the classics.

Speaker 1 Have you to notice we got the cleveland wall back oh yeah yeah baby it's some history right there man all right so we got calves at four what are we going with next oh the detroit pistons these ones are actually freaking sneaky

Speaker 1 i actually have this jersey myself i i love this jersey man this thing is fire old school pistons that should have been i'm sorry i'm sorry that should have been four i'm sorry

Speaker 1 i think everybody in cleveland will tell you that regardless

Speaker 1 yeah we got to go six if it's a bad memphis this is throwback so it's so

Speaker 1 it's not memphis isn't even gonna be in here man fuck oh dude you can't not put that jersey in here i don't think it's up to us i don't think it's up to oh

Speaker 1 i forgot about these ah the wolves what numbers do we have left eight and one it's not good it's not good it's gonna be way lower than it should be these timberwolves jerseys were sick so we go eight we gotta go eight in the hopes that's come on man don't disappoint us bro it's gonna be like a bulls jersey or something don't disappoint us

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 cheating the system again with the shorts though the 90s shorts that's what i'm saying a lot of these jerseys are hard but the shorts be like the shorts i still wear to this day like you know what i mean i'd go on mitchell and s and get the old school shorts what is it about these jerseys that just like go like that makes it so awesome like everybody loves this jersey is it the color is it the way the grizzlies is written out is it the bear the outline, the pad.

Speaker 1 The outlining jersey, the way grizzlies is typed, the Vancouver small. You got the grizzly, the big-ass grizzly on the side.
Looks like it's coming out of the 3D. Shout out to Mike Bibby.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mike Bibby. There we go.

Speaker 1 That was a solid win. I'm not that mad about it.
Not bad. You know, we'll move around a few of them, but overall, we...

Speaker 1 We got it done. All right.
Let's get to our last segment here. It's called We Gotta Ask.

Speaker 1 That is, we always end our segments with We Gotta Ask, but you don't have to answer, so you can either answer or tell us the fuck off. Donovan, we'll just roll through a few of these.

Speaker 1 Does a what does a basketball hoop have?

Speaker 1 Oh, Jason is so fucking good. Yeah, this is so silly.

Speaker 1 We've been back and forth on this. Does a basketball hoop have one hole or two holes?

Speaker 1 One, yeah, that's the correct answer, right? Yeah, one. What about the net at the bottom?

Speaker 1 It goes in the top hole and out the bottom hole.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I see what people are doing. I see what people are doing.

Speaker 1 What about a straw? What about a straw? Does a straw have...

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Is one continuous hole? So does a straw have one hole or two holes?

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Speaker 1 It's Lambda contest. What are your thoughts on it now? I think it's tough

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 a lot of the dunks

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 we see we have social media. So like you see it all.

Speaker 1 And then on top of that, the best dunkers in the world aren't NBA players, that's the reality of it, they're not, so they make their own videos, their own content that we see, and we're like, oh shit, that's crazy, but then you know, it's hard for us to replicate that because they're professional dunkers, like you know what I'm saying, like that's what they do, exactly.

Speaker 1 And I know a bunch of the guys who are professional dunkers, and they try to teach guys, but people don't understand that guys don't have time to work on these things, like for real. Like,

Speaker 1 when I won, I only had two weeks, you know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? And then the last dunk that I did to win, I hadn't made that dunk since high school.

Speaker 1 So I was just one of the guys that went in. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's tough.
I think it gets a bad rap because people are expecting something crazy.

Speaker 1 But it's like we live in an era now where you can see the craziest dunk by whoever. I employ a guy like Jathan Brown for trying to continue to go out there and do their thing.

Speaker 1 I won't personally be out there again, to be honest. You won it.
You did it. Undefeated.
There you go. There you go.
I guess that's right.

Speaker 1 Like, if you would have saw jordan jump from the free throw line on social media before he did it like it wouldn't have been as exciting

Speaker 1 exactly what and you are you're also seeing like people you don't know so to people they're like oh these this is if so-and-so random person can do it john moran should definitely be able to do it like zion williamson she doesn't you know what i mean it's just not It's not a fair.

Speaker 1 That's why I don't think guys do it because it's not necessarily a

Speaker 1 fair shake, to be honest. There's guys that all they do is work on Duncan and different ways to make that, and that's just not what everybody in the NBA has time for.

Speaker 1 So what's a way that the NBA can, I guess, make the All-Star game and all this stuff? Because

Speaker 1 really the Dunk contest was what everybody got ready for.

Speaker 1 You already know. And that's all anybody cared about.
The All-Star game was fun, but people really wanted to watch the Dunk contest.

Speaker 1 So what can the NBA do to make it exciting again to get the fans engaged? It's a tough question. I think that's tough.
I feel like, oh, I mean, I'm a fan of dunking.

Speaker 1 I've been a fan my whole high school career. So, like, maybe you get professional dunkers to come in and do some things that people haven't seen.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 You can elevate those individuals. You elevate those.
Like, we had a guy come in during halftime in one of our games and do it, right? Like,

Speaker 1 he was between the legs, dunking it, like, this way, like, behind, like, stuff that is just crazy. But, like, you know what I mean? But people haven't seen.
I think.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't, especially for the dunk contest.
I don't know the same thing.

Speaker 1 What do you think about Slam Ball? You get some trampolines in there. Oh, dude, somebody's going to get hurt.
You can't be on people do that.

Speaker 1 I don't even think the owners of GMs, nobody. Nobody can go to that one.

Speaker 1 What do you think about, though, what the NHL did where they had like the Four Nations tournament this year instead of the LSR game? And I like that. There's like, because

Speaker 1 I don't know, everybody gets hyped up for USA basketball, right? So all of a sudden, you got USA basketball, maybe even just versus the world.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's like all the foreign players combined on one team, USA on another team, and then there's like an actual competitive reason because you're playing for your countries.

Speaker 1 That might be exciting right there. I think so.
I think that the NHL that a really, I watched it. That was,

Speaker 1 that was really dope, that what they did. I think that's something that could definitely, you know,

Speaker 1 elevate it for sure. We did that in the Rising Stars game my first two years.
It was

Speaker 1 USA versus Welcome. You know, like I said,

Speaker 1 it's tough, man.

Speaker 1 There's so much that goes on.

Speaker 1 throughout the Sunday that like to get to the game, it's just like, oh, we made it. Like, we made it there.
Like, there's like, you know, you know how it goes.

Speaker 1 Like, there's always, there's always different things. You standing around.
So, like, man, guys don't want to get hurt.

Speaker 1 And then, guys, some guys do, some guys get a work on it because they're able to, some guys don't have appearances as long as others. So, it's, it's so much.

Speaker 1 But I think if you do the USA versus World, it'll definitely bring up the intensity for sure.

Speaker 1 You could even do it where, like, you could still do the slam dunk contest, but now it's not like, you know, Donovan Mitchell competing for himself in the slam dunk contest.

Speaker 1 He's trying to get points for Team USA's overall total. Oh, you're saying the whole week?

Speaker 1 He's on his own wavelength right now.

Speaker 1 He's on his own wavelength right now. I think that'd be fun.
Like, I don't slam dunk it, but I want to watch USA beat the rest of the world in the slam dunk contest.

Speaker 1 I'll ask you this, though. Who is the one guy in the NBA that you would love to see in the dunk contest? Zach Levine.

Speaker 1 Oh, all over again. Yeah, you already know.
Right away. Watching him.
I mean, he's the previous champion. I got like five.
Zach Levine,

Speaker 1 zion ja zion would be crazy

Speaker 1 man derek job see that's the thing i mean i want i don't want to say back in the day it used to be different but i mean those like the superstars of the league definitely were in the dunk contest not to say that you're not because you still got jalen brown and you still got guys you know with very familiar and you know, contributing a lot, but it's like, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 I'm with you. Seeing guys like that, Anthony Edwards, guys like that just go in there and do something crazy or just do a regular windmill, but jump out the gym doing it.

Speaker 1 Have they ever done horse hit the L Star game? That's what I want to see. They did it during COVID.

Speaker 1 During COVID, they did that. You know what I think? This will never happen, ever happen.
But I think

Speaker 1 we should get guys to line up and try to dunk and guys that try to block the shot.

Speaker 1 Slam ball, one-on-ones. Let's go.

Speaker 1 I'm talking about just straight up. Straight up.
It'll never happen. It'll never happen.
I am so into this. We got to get it to go.
How do we get this?

Speaker 1 I'm taking Jay Allen all all day i told jay i would dunk the out of him i was like she might like

Speaker 1 who who bleeped that out for you so i told i told jaya we had a discussion about this in the locker room actually yeah it was me f d g karis we were all talking it was before i dunked on poor zingus the day before uh-huh they were like you don't more and i'm like look y'all I promise you, if I saw y'all down there, I would dunk.

Speaker 1 And they were like, we're going to see. And then we saw against,

Speaker 1 I dunked on Porzingis. And that's why you saw me look at the bench and go crazy.
He's like,

Speaker 1 Jungle was

Speaker 1 talking to both of them.

Speaker 1 I make the jokes with Ev all the time. I get defensive play to hear

Speaker 1 all that.

Speaker 1 I would dunk. I would dunk.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 how hard is it to dunk on somebody, though, when they know it's coming and they got like that much space? You're talking to a guy that's never dunked in his life. So you got to.

Speaker 1 I've dunked a female basketball before.

Speaker 1 I've got that guy because

Speaker 1 I didn't know you can get up that high forget the palm but I didn't know

Speaker 1 Travis knows I get up high enough I just don't have the form down

Speaker 1 I cannot I'm gonna I'm gonna dunk I'm gonna do this the way to do it when you know a guy like for me

Speaker 1 like I always go at the guy's body because I'm strong sure so if I can if I can eliminate like you going like this yeah take body away I'm fine once I get like up here so like with JA and Ev I would just try to go at them I mean it sounds really easy, like I said, it sounds, I'm making this sound very easy.

Speaker 1 It's easy for you, but like, you know,

Speaker 1 but um, a lot of guys have tried to dunk both of them, a lot of guys have failed. I feel like I'd be one of the few successful

Speaker 1 people. We'll never see it, you know what I mean? Because I'm not going to try it to practice, but like, you know, I promise at some point, maybe during training camp, I'll try it.
It's out there.

Speaker 1 It sounds electric. It sounds so electric.
I want to see this. Well, we kind of got into this earlier, but let's go ahead and hit it.

Speaker 1 Easier for an NFL player going to the NBA or NBA player going to the NFL. It's obviously been a huge debate on, well, not obviously, but on this show for sure.
On the show, for sure, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I guess around the sports world

Speaker 1 guys crossing over. What do you think about the NFL to NBA, NBA to NFL debate? I may get hated for this.
I think it'd be easier to come over into y'all world at certain positions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no question. At certain positions, for sure.
I'm with you. I'm with you.
I don't think I could be a running back. What position are you coming over?

Speaker 1 Anything on defense, I think, not the line. I think for sure I could, not a corner.
Take that back.

Speaker 1 Corners real hard. I got big feet, and my feet don't move like that.
So

Speaker 1 I'm not reacting to shit. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 You got safety? Safety. Safety, I think I got.
Okay.

Speaker 1 With time. I don't mean I could just walk on the floor.
Yeah, nobody can just grain. You know what I mean? With time.
Jay Tatum came through and he mentioned that as well.

Speaker 1 He said, if you would have gave him time, because he was a high school football player, if if you would have gave him time through high school and he dedicated to that lifestyle, he thinks he could have done it.

Speaker 1 And it makes sense. So, who's got the better chance? You, who had the better chance, you of playing in the NFL or Lamar Jackson of playing in the NBA?

Speaker 1 Having seen Lamar play basketball, could he have played in the NBA if he would have dedicated all his talent to NBA? Are we playing each other physicians? Like in my quarterback?

Speaker 1 No, just any, just making it.

Speaker 1 Let's say we're back in high school, and a young Donovan Mitchell says, I'm going to focus on football, and a young Lamar Jackson says, I'm going to focus on basketball.

Speaker 1 Who has a better chance of making it into the NBA or NFL?

Speaker 1 I would say probably me making it to the NBA. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you hear that, Lamar? Shots fired. I hope he sees that too.

Speaker 1 We got to get Lamar's take on this. We got to get Lamar's too.
We definitely got to. We definitely got to.
I saw him dunk. I didn't really get to see him hoop much.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I definitely feel like, you know, maybe a tight end, you know, maybe. You know what I mean? Come out, you know, grab it, fall.

Speaker 1 Who's the guy that falls on Seattle every time he catches it?

Speaker 1 What's his name?

Speaker 1 Every time he catches the ball, he'd

Speaker 1 talking about Tyler Lockett? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's avoiding some hits. Yeah, you already know.
Some unnecessary hits, I'll say, because he's a tough guy. But he's like, yeah, if I'm not going to

Speaker 1 need to take this hit, I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 Or you throw me an out route, I feel like I could, you know, nothing down the middle. Nothing over the middle.
You're going down the middle, Trav. Nothing.
Come on, man.

Speaker 1 It's when you catch an out route. That's when you turn turn it out.
It says guaranteed interception. Guaranteed interception.
No, not the guaranteed.

Speaker 1 As soon as I hit you with the right here and get back that way, middle, I'm not going for it. But tell Paul, I'm sorry.
And I'm

Speaker 1 breaking routes. Only outbreaking routes.
I respect the take. What's the hardest arena to play in?

Speaker 1 Because I can't see well,

Speaker 1 Dallas. Timeout.
You can't see. Oh, like the depth perception is crazy in Dallas.

Speaker 1 I'm not, I'm not. Dallas's depth perception is not the best for me.
So

Speaker 1 there's not a lot like behind the basketball hoop, or it's just a weird.

Speaker 1 It's just the way the light is set up in there.

Speaker 1 It's the only arena where I'm in there and it's like

Speaker 1 it may go in today. It may not go in today.

Speaker 1 That's a crazy scenario. This is like one of those things where it's just your eyes just play tricks on you.
You ever thought about wearing the rec specs? Never. The old grand horses?

Speaker 1 The year I tried to wear context because you know I don't wear glasses. I was about to say, do you work context out there? No.
So you just out there with blurry-ass vision shooting?

Speaker 1 You're driving 71 with blurry visions.

Speaker 1 This guy is crazy, man. We got to get my guy some LASIC, man.
Fuck. This dude's shooting threes while he's buffering.
I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 That's incredible, man. Nah, for real.
That's the one arena where I'm like, my eye, every time it's like, it's like, it plays tricks on me in that arena. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's a certain light. In terms of atmosphere, though.
It's tough because the tougher arenas I love to play in. So it's like, I don't really know if you want to consider it tough.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? I guess. Well, let's rephrase it.
What's the most electric atmosphere arena outside of what? Outside of here? Yeah. Both gardens.
Both gardens. I was about to say the garden.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Nice.
No, both of them. Boston and Almost.
Yeah, I get it. But I was thinking Boston just because you guys have had so many big games against Boston, it feels like.
I love that crowd.

Speaker 1 That crowd is fun. I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm from the East Coast. So Boston and New York, the Knicks arena, both of them feel like my people are there watching anyway.
Like, you know what I mean? That cares.

Speaker 1 But those are probably my two favorites. And I said here, too, I said before I got here.

Speaker 1 I love, even when,

Speaker 1 what was it, 30 wins, 20 win seasons, like was jumping. Like, you know what I mean? And you're on the road, you're on the East Coast trip.
You're like, ain't nobody finna be here. This is sold out.

Speaker 1 Yes, they are.

Speaker 1 Definitely, definitely wrong. So I definitely, you know, got a lot of respect for fan bases that show out through the down years as much as they do during the

Speaker 1 oh, and Utah. Sorry.
Try to put Utah in there. For sure.
I'm excited for Utah's hockey team, man, because Utah, they seem like

Speaker 1 a fan base that would go nuts for hockey.

Speaker 1 I just know that. You got to figure that name out.
Yeah, you got to get out of there. I ain't trying to hear this.
The hockey club? You know, they want to do Yetis, but apparently the Yeti

Speaker 1 Somebody bought all the trademarks for them. The Yeti

Speaker 1 Coolers got the trademark. They won't let them use it? They might, but I think that there's like, they probably want to own it outright, I bet.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Somebody, that was the rumor going out there why they weren't picking Yeti. And I'm like, bro, you got to go with Yeti.
Partner with them. Yeti's fucking.

Speaker 1 Have Yeti Coolers for sale through the whole arena. Facts.
Tell Ryan Smith. Ryan Smith.

Speaker 1 He was with me when I was in Utah. Let him know, hey, the Yetis.

Speaker 1 You got to get them going. Whole arena's electric for sure.
What city

Speaker 1 should have an NBA team that doesn't? Louisville, Kentucky. Man, what?

Speaker 1 College?

Speaker 1 College?

Speaker 1 No way. You think they're packing?

Speaker 1 Everybody's going to say Vegas and they're going to say Seattle. No.
Louisville, Kentucky. Vegas and Seattle hit 13.

Speaker 1 I've never heard of Louisville. They got the arena for it, too.
And there's no professional sport team there. So it's just the perfect, perfect place.
I'm making a lot of sense right now.

Speaker 1 It's spitting a lot of facts. You're going to get some support in Louisville.
They work for OKC, that's for damn sure. LeBron James has said Giannis would score over 200 points in the 1970s.

Speaker 1 That's fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 200 points is crazy.

Speaker 1 How many points are you scoring in the 70s?

Speaker 1 We get a little hot tub time machine

Speaker 1 back in time.

Speaker 1 It is hard to compare eras, bus. It is.
It is extremely hard. It is hard.
But I'm always going to give myself the benefit of the doubt. I'm going to say 30.
You're going to say 30, 40, 50.

Speaker 1 I think scoring. Yeah.
Like you're scoring in a game?

Speaker 1 You put up 71 in this era.

Speaker 1 What's your 71 in the 70s? Did they have the three-point line in the 70s? I'm genuinely asking this. That's a great question that I do not know.

Speaker 1 I want to say they did. I don't think they did it.

Speaker 1 They're saying they did it.

Speaker 1 1979, they're saying. This is when it started.
So this is no three-point line. So no three-point line, all twos.
Oh, that's nasty.

Speaker 1 All twos. Nasty.

Speaker 1 I don't like that.

Speaker 1 I'll give myself, you know, 40, 50. You got to think, in the 70s as as well, there's not, I mean, the rim protectors around, you know,

Speaker 1 it's like 6'8, 6'9, maybe. Yeah.
I mean, maybe in the 80s, they started hitting you, but like you keep going in there time after time.

Speaker 1 They knocking you out the air. You know what I mean? So a little bit more physical, a little bit more fit.
The loaders come in, the jumpers come in. You're not just attacking the rim the entire game.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Trying to preserve your body. So I'd go for about 50, 50 for sure, I think.
All right, that's a very realistic answer. We got one more for you.

Speaker 1 Pick your all-time starting five. Am I on the team or no? Yeah, you can put yourself on there.
I will say, typically, when we do these, people do not pick themselves

Speaker 1 unless your name is Travis Kelsey. Travis Melvin picks himself as one of the top tight ends of all time.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to manifest it, Jason.

Speaker 1 He has the stats to prove it. For sure.
I mean, it's definitely legitimate. I'm still working my way.
You know what I mean? I'm still trying to get one ring, let alone three. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We're going to get it this year enough, baby.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I won't put myself in here.

Speaker 1 Steph at the one.

Speaker 1 Kobe the two.

Speaker 1 MJ at the three. Ron at the four.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing no misses so far. At all.

Speaker 1 My five-man. I'm playing in 2025 basketball, so I'm not really going to tradition.
I'm going small ball. Katie at the five.
I mean, that's a hell of a starting five.

Speaker 1 I think that five takes anybody's starting five. They're running.
They're running. No matter if you're playing.

Speaker 1 Running the floor.

Speaker 1 Pace and and space. Running the floor.
That's it. I respect it.
Well, Spider-Man, we appreciate you jumping on, man. We won't take any more of your time.
Thank you very much, everybody.

Speaker 1 Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 1 Good luck in the playoffs, big dog. Thanks for always representing Cleveland, man.
And let's go get us one, man. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Appreciate y'all, boys. Thank you.
Appreciate y'all. All right, that wraps up another episode of New Heights.
Thank you, Donovan Mitchell for joining us.

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