Chiefs Respond to First Loss, Saquon’s Case for MVP and The Tyson/Paul Fight Was Cheeks | Ep 111

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I'm about to throw up two.

Dude, it is so bad. Get it off the screen.
I don't want to watch it. I'm about to throw up two.
Dude, it is so bad. Get it off the screen.
I don't want to watch it anymore. Can we just fast forward to the end? Get it off the screen.
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ready for you guys. We're going to

start off on a summer note with the Chiefs' first

loss of the season. Then we're going to get into a much

more uplifting note with the Eagles taking down the commies. Who doesn't like to take down commies? I think commies.
As well as the rest of the biggest storylines from across the NFL in week 11. But before we get started, we're going to start with a little bit of that new news.
New news. And this new news is something that Wyatt is going to be happy to find out.
What? New news is brought to you by Moana 2. That's right.
Moana 2. Oh, nice.
It's coming to theaters November 27th. It's exciting.
Moana is fantastic. One of the things I really like about Moana is that it's like, I don't know, it feels like in a world where a lot of these stories just kind of get like remade.
Moana was an original. I think the lead character is a powerful female that I really like.
The music's great. The rock kills it.
Maui's a fantastic character. But there's also not like the bad guy ends up being the same as the good guy in the movie i don't know what mana 2 is about but the first one was about really just like being good to the land and mother nature fighting back against yeah you know really monocultures of coconuts i think um anyways uh yeah moana 2 coming november 27th can't wait to see what this one's about and if Te Fiti is back to needs the heart what was it missing again the heart something heart god damn it the heart of Te Fiti be good to the land anyways Mama Kelsey Mama Kelsey, new news.
Mama Kelsey acting debut.

That's right.

Mama Donna.

Mama Kelsey is going to make her acting debut next Saturday.

That's right. Next Saturday, November 30th.

What?

In Holiday Touchdown, a Chiefs love story on the Hallmark Channel.

Got to admit, I have not seen a lot of Hallmark movies.

I'm excited to watch this one.

Mama Kelsey, she owns a barbecue joint. That's right.
She's a manager of a barbecue restaurant yeah mom can cook a lot of things i don't think she's ever made barbecue she's never made barbecue for us no i mean like not even like barbecue sauce i don't remember that being like a thing that mom would do that was dad's deal dad was like yeah leave the barbecue to me i'll make the sauce at home. You know, I think it's good enough to sell.
I think he wanted that. You remember that dad wanted to sell his own barbecue sauce.
He did. And mom was like, Ed, we can't mortgage our entire financial savings because you want to sell your barbecue sauce.
That barbecue sauce was really good, though. It was fucking great had it again it doesn't taste i don't know if

dad didn't write down the recipe right i feel like you know sometimes when you're finagling stuff just off the fly off the cuff you nail it it's good i also like he we tried to recreate it we tried to recreate it and he gave me the list and i expected it to be like a big head is he's Kelsey's finagling everything.

He gave me this barbecue

sauce recipe and I was going to try and

make it when it was like fourth of july or something like that and i was expecting it to be like oh you got like ingredients these spices these herbs like brown sugar ketchup brown sugar this thing is nothing but other sauces and other condiments combined to

make one side like i'm like dude you can't how many scammed us all you just went to the he just had sweet baby rays mixed with fucking dude he just went to the uh hey man this shit's good as hell no wonder he went to the fountain coke machine at mcdonald's and just mixed a bunch of them together.

I got more of them

sauce.

I'm not going to

lie.

Shit.

That's how you got

fucking vanilla

coke. He went to the fountain Coke machine at McDonald's and just mixed a bunch of them together.
I got my own sauce. I'm not going to lie.
Shit. That's how you got fucking vanilla Coke.
That's how you got fucking, you know what I mean? All I know is it was good. And dad was on to something.
In another world. He figured it out.
He figured it out. Big Ed's barbecue sauce could have been a thing maybe.
Yeah. And the word around town was, you know, Big Ed could fucking make some wings, man.
He could make wings. Everybody loved those wings.
Everybody. The original Kelsey Mix.
Yeah, check out November 27th, as we said. Mom's first acting debut is hitting the big screens.
Well, TV screens. I think those go straight to TVs.
I don't think that goes to the theater. Yeah, I think they go straight to streaming.
But you can't see Moana, too, in theaters. All right, now jason debuts santa drives in the astro van that's right yeah baby how did it feel being up on stage big guy well my voice was gone i lost my voice the previous week so we talked about this yeah i was really nervous you didn't do our remedy i tried i think i had about you know i probably had more honey than winnie the whole evening.
See, you went the honey route. You went the wrong route.
I did tea and honey. It was both.
See, you went tea. You can't.
Jason, did you hear anything I said? You didn't fucking listen to anything I said. And you still had a raspy voice.
You tried to go the fucking. You're so ridiculous.
Between this and then trying to film something else.

I could not sing this.

Can we turn the sound off for a second while Jason's shaking his little shaker,

little banana shaker?

Oh, yeah.

Everybody mute your computer now.

I love your facial expressions.

Here we go.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I'm not sorry. That's hold little things.
I love right before you get on the mic, you're like looking at everyone like, here it goes. Here it goes.
Sorry for ruining the song, everybody. We'll get through this, though.
We'll get through this together and enjoy the rest of this song i could not sing it was so bad you just gotta go honey did not help but you should have fucking just chugged some jack daniels before you walked up there everyone i would encourage you to listen to the actual recording where i sound much better because my voice is not hoarse yeah but no it was an awesome experience it was really cool to be a part of mount joy is phenomenal uh the fact that they lent their time and energy to this effort uh was fantastic yeah i don't know the eagles fans made it special there was enough energy already because it was the biggest game of the year for the Philadelphia Eagles. So it was just an awesome evening of music and football.
Does it feel weird? You've done this the past, like, three years. Does it feel weird doing a lot for Christmas, not in December? It does feel a little weird, but you kind of have to do the lead up to it.
You have to stay ahead of it, but you know me, I've always loved Christmas. We've always loved Christmas.
So, um, you know, and listen, the previous two albums, we've raised over $4 million for damn 50 different charitable organizations because people have supported the album and bought it and, uh, appreciated it. So it makes it a lot easier to do when you know that it's going to make a huge impact in your community.
Santa drives an Astrovan, ladies and gentlemen, live at the Link. The third and final record in the Philadelphia Special Christmas Trilogy is out now.
So make sure you guys go and check that out. Yep.
Please support. We've had a lot of support in the past, and we're trying to do it even bigger this year.
We have aspirations to do a lot of amazing things for the community. And the only reason we're able to do any of that is because people support the album, and it's turned into this wonderful Philadelphia thing that I think just is fun.
We have an Operation Snowball we're trying to execute on this year. I haven't even told anybody about this yet.

I don't even know if I'm allowed to share this.

But our goal this year, Operation Snowball, is a citywide special initiative to try and get a gift to every kid in the Philly public schools. So we're partnering with the Philadelphia Public School System, as well as some other organizations in the city and people in the private sector to try and get gifts to every single school for the kids throughout Philadelphia, which is a lot of kids.
And the only reason we're able to do that is because the city supports it. People buy the album, they listen to the album.
But more importantly, and I really this from the moment i got to philadelphia it's really just such a city entrenched with pride and joy for itself yeah uh the sense of community and family is so strong it is very strong and um you know i don't know that it would be done anywhere else but i think i think we're gonna be able to pull it off with how much you know the community is willing to support it so we appreciate you guys uh really excited to you know bring some joy around the holidays uh to everyone out there and uh yeah thanks for supporting jason broke a world record hey how about that last piece of new news here jason is now officially a world record Holder. How holder.
How about Jason Guinness Book of World Records? You made it, kid. On Monday Night Countdown, Jason attempted to break two world records.
The longest blindfolded catch of a football, which did not go well, did not go well at all. Was this inspired by the sun at AT&T Stadium? I don't know.
So all of the peaking through the glass. I think it was just Dude Perfect kind of set up a lot of these games.
And they were like, hey, you're not going to catch this ball, but it's going to look hilarious. So it's like, all right, I'll get you.
So they actually pulled this off. They hold the world record, I think, for longest.
longest oh right in the fucking clavicle right in the jugular oh we got to keep our we got to keep our hands up i felt like it was a lot closer than what it just looked like no that's a i mean how long did they say it was that looks like that was over 40 yards that one was over 40 yards the longest hot dog was right around 60 yards do we have somebody threw a hot dog 60 yards there's no from dude perfect he can throw a hot dog 60 yards so he he had a good little arm on him and yeah we got down when we had to switch sides so the hot dog would make it down there give this guy a fucking scholarship man fuck. Fuck.
Motherfucking scholarship.

Dude, this is goddamn good.

The longest throwing catch of a hot dog into a bun.

Nice. Yes.

So he was just throwing naked wieners, and you were catching them in the bun.

In my bun.

Oh, yeah.

That's right.

Were they toasted?

In my buns.

I know you're a big toasted bun guy.

My buns were loose and lubricated and ready to receive that wiener. Jesus.
Perfect catch. I will say, those hot dogs.
Those hot dogs at Jerry World are fucking ridiculous. They are the girth on those hot dogs.
And then we did another one where we actually ate the hot dog. Yeah, I saw that.
It it was cold it was absolutely gross now you know exactly what i'm talking about that's every hot dog you just finally came to realization this one just had a consistency to it that was like you know hot dogs have like filler in it like it's not all meat the entire thing is filler but i think that one was so condom it was too high quality of a hot dog i think i found out through that eating that hot dog that i like cheap hot dogs if it's too nice of a hot dog it's like it was a bad hot dog a gourmet glizzy you were i don't know what it was it was thick and like as soon as i bit into it i was like what in the hell dude, a hot dog eating contest might be a nightmare. Like, I think I've actually woken up in like a dead sweat out of a, out of sleep one time because I was in like a, a hot dog eating contest against my will.
You had a nightmare, a hot dog eating contest nightmare. Dude, that, I mean, just the smell and just, you're stuffing yourself until you have to vomit and then i already have to vomit because of the texture oh god have you ever had a mayonnaise eating contest nightmare no nobody would ever do that dude that's the real thing no it's not brandon find a mayonnaise eating contest and put it on this fucking screen right now i just got fucking chills to do that.
I just got fucking chills. Mayonnaise eating contest.

I just got chills. I did have lunch, Jason.

I don't want to do this. Dude, I've

seen it. People have eaten like five

jars and shit.

Look at this.

Alright, that's all I had to see. I just wanted to see if it

was real.

I'm about to throw up two. Dude is so gross oh oh yeah oh god i'm dude it is so bad i don't want to watch it anymore dude i don't even get queasy and this is disgusting It looks like I'm kind of like tricking myself And thinking she's eating yogurt I'm like in my head I'm like okay It's actually vanilla pudding That's the only way I can be comfortable The texture is disgusting oh my gosh that is so gross oh get it

out of here i like that she just shook her head can we just fast forward to the end how many how many does she get through uh it doesn't matter that's just foul gosh that's just she's going This is like fear factor, man.

Dude, I'm sweating now.

Gosh. gosh that's just she's going back this is like fear factor man oh dude i'm sweating now gosh why is this so like i watch hot dog eating contests all day and not get grossed out this is like there's something just like so repulsive about this can i just point out that like i would have said swag if you get it off the screen this is like nails on a chalkboard to me dude i can't look up and fucking all right mina kuna is fucking just housing fucking mayonnaise dude this is disgusting five jars of mayonnaise in three minutes what the fuck was that that was a row you just put me on a roller, Brandon.
I feel like I just fucking got tossed around the room, man. God damn it.
Maybe now you'll have a nightmare about that. Man, that's really gross.
That was so unsafe. For everyone on audio that is not watching this on YouTube, I highly recommend you do not.
Do not go and watch that. What was her name again? Michelle Lesko? Michelle Lesko.
Do yourself a favor and do not watch that clip. And that does it for new news.
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All righty. Bold topics to wrap up week 11 in the NFL.
Chiefs recap. Let's get into it, Trav.
Bills 30, Chiefs 21. Great game.
It was a fun game to watch. Did not turn out the best for the Kansas City Chiefs.
The Bills played a great four-quarter football game. Turnover early, got the ball at half.
Possessions didn't have a lot of them. They were doing a good job of keeping our offense off the field, putting together drives.
Hard to do against the Kansas City Chiefs. Keep having my homes off the football field the football field man absolutely and it was impressive i mean yeah they were converting third down something that i think we didn't do a great job of they won their one-on-one matchups in a lot of different areas and it wasn't just you know in in terms of like the wide receiver db one-on-one matchups i think it was all over the board and back to the drawing board for sure i I think it was a nice, I don't want to call it a wake-up call because we went into that game knowing that the Bills were one of the top teams in the football, in the NFL.
Sometimes you just need a different perspective on things. And watching this game back, you kind of see a trend happening over the past three to four four weeks.
And you just got to fine tune things, get back to the basics, get back to the fundamentals. Yeah.
And really just get back to going to work throughout the week. And, you know, I have all the confidence in the world will be better because of this game.
But at the same time, you know, hats off to the Bills for showing up, man. Yeah.
I have a feeling this is not going to be the last game the Kansas City Chiefs and Bills played this season. And kudos to the Bills.
They played great. Josh Allen played fantastic.
Like we were saying, they sustained a lot of drives. And the Kansas City defense has been so good.
And I don't think the defense didn't play bad. It was more like the Bills just made plays at the right time.

Josh played great.

This was two really good teams going up against each other. And the biggest play of the game, you know,

obviously Pat is so good down the stretch with the ball in his hands.

And he did it, the drive right before Buffalo scores their last touchdown.

You guys drive down and bring the game within two points.

And McDermott and the Bills have decision uh on fourth down with two yards to either punt it or try and retain possession and the last thing i think anybody thought was that josh allen was going to scramble and score a touchdown on the play but i mean i think that aggression is what you have to do if you give me a b or c i'm saying josh something with his feet. Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
I mean, they were on quarterback power. They were like, yeah, let's put it in Superman's hands.
Yeah, no doubt. And he executed it to perfection.
That's what they had to do. I think that they knew if they would have given that ball back to Pat, it's out of our hands.
And they decided to be aggressive and take control of it, and it paid off. Man, look at how Karloftis was so close.
George. Either way, it was an awesome game.
You could see the intensity out there from both teams because obviously you guys have played a lot of meaningful football games against each other. Let's get some post-game thoughts.
Mahomes, you can use it as fuel. That's a good football team, so it's nothing to hang your head about.
We feel like we can play better, so we'll get back to work and try to use it as a spark to be a better football team in the end. The undefeated thing was cool, but that's not our ultimate goal.
I love this, and I think that this is all you can do. You take losses or you take things that you're not operating at the right level or where you want to be at, and you try and become better from it.
Yeah. The Bills are a great football team.
They are. They're one of the best football teams in the NFL this year, and they're going to be able to win any football game they're in, especially with the guy they got playing quarterback and the team they've assembled.
And, you know, it's an experience that will ultimately make the Kansas City Chiefs better from moving forward. I really believe that.
Yeah. Andy Reid, on the undefeated talk going away, potentially being a relief for his team, he said, I don't really care about all that crap.
I mean, how much were you guys hearing of the undefeated stuff? Because it feels like there's this narrative out there that that was potentially in your head i find that hard to believe that you guys were even like even thinking about that you don't think about oh i really want to win this game so i can remain undefeated no we want to win this game because we we have a lot of really close football games against the buffalo bills and we we love fucking competing against them because they're one of the best teams in the league like i get fired up playing against the best. Yeah.
Yeah. I get fired up playing against the best teams in the National Football League, and I was fired up for this one, and I didn't play my best.
And that shit fucking pisses me off, and it made me go right back into work on Monday after the game and get after it and find a way to make shit right. Yeah.
I think this is something that you won't see out of us in the future. I think we're very confident that we'll get the things fixed.
We have all the talent that we need to go and win another Super Bowl. I've been on Super Bowl winning teams.
We have enough talent to fucking make a run at this thing, and I think everybody knows that. All we got to do is just be at our best, and that's what we were not for four quarters.
I there wasn't a single quarter that it was like oh yeah we outplayed them we got them on that no they were out there they had a little bit more uh idea what we were doing and they were fundamentally more sound in a lot of different areas yeah you know i i put that on myself uh to be more fun to harp on the fundamentals throughout practice make sure i'm getting out there and i'm'm running around. I'm not just going through the plays.
Make sure I'm focused. Make sure I get the timing down with the quarterback so that, you know, we're on time for Pat and Pat can be confident in throwing the football where it needs to go.
You know, a lot of this shit is just it's very fixable. And I got all the faith in the world in this team.
Obviously, I just – I focus on the offensive side, but I got all the faith in the world in Spags and that defense to get it right as well. Well, Andy had a similar message to rookies and newcomers and really the whole team, I'm sure.
You got to dig in. This should hurt.
You spend a lot of time and effort preparing for these games as coaches and players. You have to figure out these problems and work to solve them.
You can't just say everything's going to be okay. That's how this works.
You have to check the ego at the door and do some self-eval, which I think he's clearly saying, similar to what you're saying, is, listen, we've been close to losing some games for the last couple weeks, and now we finally have lost one. It's time to really focus on what we need to get better at.
I don't give a fuck how your body's feeling. I don't give a fuck where your mentality is off the field.
When you step in that building, we are here to figure shit out. And we are here to get better as football players for the football team.
I think that is a mentality going forward that everybody has to be a part of, top down. And I think myself included, I got to be the leader that I've been in the past and, you know, hold myself accountable so that everybody sees, you know, how it's done.
And knowing that we got a lot of new faces and a lot of rookies and whatnot, you know, and sometimes you just need that smack in the face. It is what it is.
Sometimes you need a smack in the face to be able to –

You're punching the mouth.

Yeah, to lock in and know that this is – it's any given Sunday type league.

And not saying that that team was just any other team,

but I do believe we have better players and we get another shot at that team.

I definitely get excited about it.

Well, Leo Chanel shared that he and his teammates plan to use their first loss as motivation with the three-word phrase, remember the feeling. Offensive bright spots, Mahomes got the ball to 11 different players.
Guard Mike Caliendo caught a sprint out to convert a third down. This one got me fired up, man.
Oh, yeah? That one got me fired up, man. Caliendo is one of those guys.
Right now, he's number six on the O-line. So whenever we need a guy, we bring him in.
There you go. I love a little extra O-lineman in the game.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
A little heavy personnel. A1.
A1 guy. One of the best teammates on the team.
Guy that just gets after whatever you need, coach. And we put him in a situation where he's just got to feel it out.
He's got to feel the area out and on top of that, be ready for the football at any moment because Pat is – Yeah. And Pat trusted him.
I was about to say – And he put it right on him for a big time third down. Put it right on his chest.
For those of you wondering what this – this is called the side view, they call it in sprint out or boot naked action. You have somebody that secures the edge for a second and then it's his job just kind of be like a last minute like kind of safety mechanism for the quarterback to dot him the ball if everybody overplays the naked action like they do do you feel like the chief's offense is making progress to where you want to be at in january of course i know it wasn wasn't a game.
I don't know if progress is the right word. I think obviously there's good games, there's bad games, whether or not you come out victorious or you're winning your one-on-one matchups, how well did we execute the offense? A lot of people like to go into practices and say, did we have a good practice or a bad practice? No, we just fucking had practice.
Right. You know, we figured out either how not to do shit or we figured out how to do shit.
Right. And I think right now we're still figuring out how to run this offense the best or how to be at our best when the play is called.
You know that every play can't be like the most the best play possible that the other team has no idea is coming. Yeah.
You going to out scheme them every single time be wide open sometimes you got to run the ball knowing they know the exact run sometimes you gotta you gotta make a play in the past game when it's when they have everybody covered in the balls in the air you have to be able to make shit right you know coach reed does a great job and the offensive staff and the defensive staff here in case he does a great of putting us in positions to have success. But then it's our job to go out there and make that shit happen.
And, you know, that's where I put my pride in making sure that no matter what big red calls, we make that shit work. Yeah.
And I think Pat is he's got the ultimate trump card back there and being able to do that. He's done that throughout his entire career career and um and that's that's the goal the goal is to keep trying to make everything that coach reed calls whether it's something that they got to take on or not we got to make that shit happen and and and i think that's that's the direction that we're going for sure and to what you just said that's the thing that's made pat so unique is you know i think and Andy is as good at dialing up plays as anybody in the NFL.
He's going to get you guys in a lot of advantageous situations, but when it isn't the advantageous situation, that's when Pat really is special. He can then improvise and do things that a defense can't prepare for, because it's going to be something that is unique to that situation.
And that's the great equalizer. So, you know, that's the kind of ownership and pride you guys want to have.
And knowing as players that at the end of the day, you know, we're the ones out there playing and we got to make things go. So love that.
Next week, the Chiefs are headed to Carolina to take on the Panthers. Obviously not the same matchup as the Bills, but it is the NFL.
And you will get humbled by any team, especially one coming off their bye. Panthers are coming off their bye and after beating the Giants in Germany.
Two-game win streak. Wow.
After I declared the season was over, I did indeed do that. I was mighty hard on the Panthers.
Quarterbacks playing better. They got some guys back on the defensive side.
D-line is a very good D-line. That's where all their horses are.
A lot of their guys are up front. They got a very veteran-type team.
I feel like I've played a lot of these guys on different teams, Vikings, Broncos, kind of all over the league that have had this style of defense. We're going to have a fucking challenge.
They've seen us at our worst these past couple weeks. We just haven't been playing our best, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
And I think that's going to motivate them to feel like they have a chance. It's up to us, man.
It's a mentality game, man. We go in there and do what we know how at our best.
I don't think there's a team in the league that can beat us. Yeah, let's move along to the Eagles, baby.
Eagles, a little Thursday night football action against the Commandos. Oh yeah, baby.
Eagles 26, Commanders 18. Washington had been they came out the gates hot and have had a bit of a up and down the past like three or four weeks, I believe.
Yeah, I mean, they've still been good. The Commanders are a good football team.
They really are. They're well-coached.
Dan Quinn is a phenomenal head coach. And we're seeing how different that Dallas Cowboys defense looks with him not at the helm.
I just think he's very good at utilizing guys within his system, scheming things up. There were a number of things he did in this game that stalled the run game out.
The run yardage might look good because it ended good at the end of the game, but there were a lot of negative runs and things that they did that I think kind of threw the Philadelphia Eagles off, especially early in the game. And eventually we saw kind of what I think is probably the commander's weakness this year, which is the trenches on both sides.
I just think that they are a very good team. The quarterback, Jaden Daniels, has played out of his mind for the majority of the season, especially as a rookie.
I just think they're going to struggle against teams with good offensive lines and good defensive lines. I just think that they have good players.
Their offensive line is filled with a lot of journeymen that have played football in the league for a long time, and they are good players. But on both sides, they're missing just like a couple of those dudes that you can lean on to like, hey, this guy's going to create movement.
We know where to go behind this one. They're just missing a little bit of that.
And I think that when teams that are going to be able to win that physicality with them, they're going to be able to put pressure on Jaden Daniels and take him off his rhythm and timing, shut down their run game. Because their run game, a lot of people have been talking about Jaden as a thrower.
Brian Robinson and this rushing attack between him, McNichols, and Eckler, all three of those guys, they've been running the ball like crazy. I just think that the Eagles defense has been really clicking as of late.
Well, the Eagles are now first place in the NFC East behind only the Lions. Is Nick Sirianni not getting enough love from Philly? You know what? I was listening to WIP this morning.
I think the Eagles fan... The fuck is WIP? WIP is local like big sports talk show station in philadelphia so they're the ones that have been shitting on them well they control a lot of the narrative but i will say they usually are i think wip does is pretty much for the most part i don't want to say for the most part wip is oftentimes just a reflection of what the fan base truly thinks about the team.

Yeah, that's how you keep the fans involved.

Sometimes they are wrong.

That's how you keep them listening.

Sometimes they are wrong.

See, that's what I mean.

I told you, Sirianni is done.

They're also, it tends to be the loudest fans, which, you know, hey, listen, I go on WIP.

I like listening to WIP for these exact reasons.

I like hearing those perspectives. But I think Nick was facing a lot of criticism for the end of last year and early on this year.
He made a lot of fourth down calls that just haven't gone their way. And he's faced a lot of criticism for that.
A lot of fans have been saying, you know, what does he do? He's not calling plays anymore. What is he doing as a head coach? It's so unfair.
It is. It's very unfair.
It's so fucked. And Nick is really, that narrative is starting to flip.
Obviously, when you win games, that's all people care about. And at the end of the day, what I think Nick does a really good job of doing, he's a great communicator.
He does a wonderful job in team meetings and communicating who we are as a team, what we need to do, how we're going to attack them, what we're going to be on offense and defense, making critical decisions in the games, which some of them haven't gone his way this year, but I still don't disagree with most of those decisions. And at the end of the day, I think Nick has done a great job, especially retooling from a disastrous end of last year.
I mean, we lost a lot of games down the stretch, and they bring in Vic Fangio, they bring in Kellen Moore. And you can just see that they're so much more well-coordinated and well-oiled machine this year, as well as retooling from a talent perspective.
They go out and sign Saquon Barkley. A lot of the young guys that they drafted have really started to come on, especially in the defensive side of the ball.
Jalen Carter's playing as good as anybody is right now. And Nick is definitely starting to get back in the good graces of Philly fans, even though it was a rough start.
I think there was a poll today that most people were like, oh, yeah, he's got a better winning percentage than all these coaches through the first three seasons. I can't just all be luck.
He's got to be doing something good. Well, you give them the best players in the league.
Who do you want to win with? Who do you want to win with? People don't win with bad players. I don't care how good of a coach you are.
That's not how it works. But there are people that will lose with good players.
One of my favorite quotes or one of my favorite sayings, and I'm trying to remember who Kobe said, but you remember when the last dance came out from the Chicago Bulls? Yeah. And my whole life, I kind of thought Phil Jackson was a little bit overrated, if I'm being honest.
What? Dude, he coached Michael Jordan. Dude, he had the best players ever.
He had Scottie Pippen. Yeah.
And I'm like, dude, this guy didn't do anything redeeming. Then I watched last dance.
I was like, oh, no. Oh, no.
This guy like helped that whole fucking thing together. Like he's just putting out fires.
Jordan and Pippen hating each other towards the end of it. Like everybody, this dude was getting this circle.
So we're going to do some mindful. Yeah.
The Zen master. So I think I would have been so out on that, dude.
Oh, my God. So Kobe came and talked.
He would have sounded like, Phil, what the fuck are we doing? Dude. Kobe came and talked to the team one year, and he talked about this narrative that Phil Jackson isn't a good coach because he's always had good players.
And Kobe's like, well, who do you want to win with? You want to win with? And he named somebody, and I can't remember who. I don't want to throw shade at whoever basketball player he did name.
But he was like, that's not how it works. You have to have good players to win.
But at the end of the day, he won. And there's a lot of coaches that didn't.
So I think Nick has put together for the most part of his career. It's all about triangle offense, Jason.
Everything's geometry. You got to understand.

This is, you got to spread the floor out,

give two guys freedom, everything outside of that.

We just need cutters, guys in the right place at the right time, knocking down open shots.

Well, Nick Sirianni's offense is...

Get in the paint and elevate, son.

What are we doing?

The easiest shot in basketball.

Get as close as you can. Michael, show him how it's done.
All right, boys, we're going to implement the triangle offense. Yeah, that's a long-winded way of saying that, like, at the end of the day, Nick Sirianni has been on some really good teams in Philadelphia.
Yes, they've had really good players. Howie Roseman and the personnel department have done a great job as well as the coaches of building a roster that is going to be synonymous with the team and the way they want to play football.
And I think that right now they're really starting to come together. They found out their identity on offense.
Saquon Barkley is a big piece of that. Speaking of Saquon, he rests for 146 yards and two tutties against Washington.
man this guy is fucking balling man he wouldn't have happened to a better guy man we had him on the podcast in the offseason and um i think we both realized it right then and there that we're like damn philly just got a fucking he just stole from the entire nfl man yeah and uh you could tell how how just down to earth he was and how much of a teammate he was. He had been dealt with some injuries over there in New York, but it's just awesome to see him get this thing going.
Game ceiling, 39-yard touchdown late in the game. Shout out to Camp Jergens.
I'm blocking the safety. Oh, yeah.
Twice on this play. Dude, he blocked them twice on this play, and he got on the play right before this.
They ran this play two times in a row. This is the second version of it.
They ran this play, I think, three times in the game that I saw. Yeah, he obliterated.
You just see the offense. Just everybody's creating grass.
Half their team is outside the numbers. Yeah.
And when you get a defense trying to play their gaps so far to the third, like damn near on the sideline, it just creates so much room for a guy with speed and vision to be able to work with men. They're playing this like four minute defense.
They got the diamond front there and the safeties down weak side. And Cam does a great job of getting up to him.
His hands are so strong. He has that great, like three inch punch that is just so violent when he connects he launches guys in space god damn so they ran that play the play right before they ran that exact same play to the left and cam if landon would have held onto that block they probably would score on that play because he did the exact same thing to the guy just launched him yeah check this out bow jesus so strong and he knew it too he did a little head bob right there oh my gosh big jerky beef jerky jerky jerking jesus kid get up get up get up make a play make a play fuck i'm back on the ground man that's that's a couple big ones at the end of the game he had that one and then the play right before that that he scored the touchdown on not right before that but the drive before that when he the touchdown on, they had been, you know when teams play a shell, like let's say we're two by two.
I don't know if this is worth getting into. But you run a zone play weak side, and that nickel plays the B-gap late to the weak side.
You know what I mean? Yeah, I hear you. We call it a nosy nickel.
They were doing that a bunch and that ball was getting so close. Saquon had like two or three that could have been huge hits right through that B gap.
Devontae the first time, if he just would have dug the nickel out just a little bit harder, that would have been explosive. Then there was another one where it just kind of got in the way enough, right? Where it ruined the run.
Right before it, he scores a touchdown on it. I think they got confused.
I don't know if Bobby didn't know that they were rotating down to the tight end, but they didn't have anybody in that B gap, and it was a 25-yard touchdown, whatever it was. But anyways, they really should have done better on the ground.
I thought Dan did a really good job of scheming some things up, but I came away from the game. I mean, this was really positive.
Saquon is so good, man. The speed and jumping over people, that's a lot of the stuff that people notice watching him.
What I notice is he's got such good vision. He makes so many plays and makes reads that I've never seen or played with a guy make.
I mean, you could argue LaShawn was as good at it. LaShawn was maybe the shiftiest guy I've ever seen play football.
But Saquon does so many things. He's patient when he needs to be.
He gets through the hole with explosion when he needs to. He hits it frontside or backside.
He's running duo. He can

get it to that backside, which is so hard to see. He just does a phenomenal job of creating runs.
And combined with this offensive line and the quarterback they have and the threat he is, you know, good luck, you know. So anyways.
Well, Saquon's rushed for a thousand yards, 1,137 yards and eight touchdowns so far this season.

Just 175 yards behind his season best with, what, seven games, six games left? Yeah, I don't want to jinx anything, but yeah, he's looking pretty good about midway through the season here. The last running back to win MVP of the National Football League was Adrian Peterson back in 2012.
That was the last non-quarterback to win it as well. How about that? Should we stop calling it the MVP and just give it to the best quarterback, like the most valuable quarterback? Just announce that the best quarterback is the MVP? Yeah, the most valuable quarterback.
And then make the – I mean, because then the offensive player of the year year that's the one that kind of gets shuffled around to like running backs and wide outs and I don't even think a wide outs want it but yeah I don't know I just think I think there needs to be some other metric for outside of quarterbacks well it's hard because there's so much being put on the quarterback. The reality is got the ball in his hands the most of the time.

So I get it.

But yeah, the reality is the majority of the quarterback is the most valuable position on offense.

So it makes sense that they're the ones winning this award the vast majority of the time.

Every once in a while, there is a running back like Adrian Peterson in 2012, where it's so obvious that the only reason this offense is successful or the main reason this offense is dominant the way they are is because of how good that player is. There can absolutely be a case made for Saquon Barkley this year in the way he's playing and how he has elevated the offense and what the offense has turned into.
Because we've always been a running team a little bit with Jalen and kind of the attributes that he brings opens a lot of the run game up but they have really turned into this run and play action team first and second down and they're embracing it and saquon you know he's just he he has made the offense and the team so much better as a player and as a person i think it's a very good argument that he is the most valuable component to a team this season. We'll see how the rest of the season goes.
I think there's a lot of people saying, like, you know, because of the tush push, he's missing out on a lot of touchdowns. Anybody that's taken touchdowns away from Saquon Barkley, like that's making him less valuable, I think, shouldn't even be allowed to, you know, choose who an MVP is.
Like, the dude is being dominant. I don't think that that's a metric that should gauge that.
Well, talking about those touchdowns, Saquon has landed on the one-yard line nine times this year. That is, yeah, and he has eight touchdowns.
So you add those nine to it, he'd be sitting at 17 right now, halfway through the season, and that would be insane. Yeah, I mean, it's probably not 100%.
But let's say out of those nine, he probably ends up with at least seven touchdowns. I think that's probably a good percentage off of those.
From the one-yard line, I like Saquon giving the ball. I think that's about an 80% chance, yeah.
I think that that's fair to say, and that's a lot of touchdowns. It's crazy.
I wonder how many times I've been stuffed at the one-yard line. Dude, it's hard to get in there.
It's tight spaces. Like Stout said, it's like cram and salt up a fat lady's ass down there in that one-yard line.
Not a lot of windows. Shit's watertight down there, man.
Oh, yeah. The crab rear end.
What's the other one? The duck's bottom? You ever heard that one? Huh. There's something with a duck and a bottom anyways yeah next week the eagles head to los angeles to take on the rams nice unrelated question who's going to win the nfc west great question i mean it's a race over there with the niners i think it might be the cardinals cardinals are going to find their way out of there iler.
They already got a game up on everybody, right? They're leading. They are.
They're leading. I want to see Kyler continue to play the way he is.
Like, at the end of the day, you just have to see it proven. You know what I mean? And the 49ers have proven it more over the past few seasons.
Matthew Stafford has proven it in the past. And Sean McVay.
as well as the Seahawks and Geno. Both of those teams have proven it, have a track record.
They've won Super Bowls, have been in Super Bowls. Cardinals are hot right now.
But the Cardinals are hot. Jonathan Gannon has them playing really well.
They have a great running game, and Kyler Murray's playing really well right now. Yeah, he is.
It'll be interesting to see, but if they keep playing like this, I think it's the Cardinals. Yeah, there you go.
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Wildest news out of week 11. For the first time ever, the Detroit Lions are the favorites to win the Super Bowl.
Congratulations. Yeah, we'll see how.
We'll see how. Not to take away from anything the Lions are fucking doing right now because goddamn, they look unstoppable.
They do. They look very good.
And we talked about, like, can a running back ever win the MVP? The league has shifted back to, you know, this line of scrimmage, run and play action. Like, the last few years, it's gone to this.
I mean, the last decade. It's been really pass heavy, spread it out, dial it up with the premier quarterbacks.
Dan Campbell getting his guys to bite kneecaps, man. Holy cow.
They are just taking control of the line of scrimmage. Dude, they're one-two points in the backfield.
That might be two of the best we've seen in the National Football League, dude. And they're kind of different.
I love the way David Montgomery is just a great every down back. Yeah.
Or a great first, second down, just run right at you. Gibbs, I really like watching him play.
He's shifty. He's dynamic.
He can do a lot of things really, really well. I think both of them combined are really just a very fun time.
Oh, I didn't know this. They are nicknamed Sonic and Knuckles.
So Sonic is definitely Montgomery. What? Gibbs kind of reminds me of Knuckles.
I can see that. Yeah, you got – yeah, you got to twist it.
Sonic is the fastest of the bunch. Yeah, but Sonic doesn't – when I think of Knuckles, I think more of shiftiness from what I remember from those games.
Like Sonic was just like a freaking roadrunner. Or was it like a bowling ball, which I think of more – like he would ball up and go like there.
I kind of think of that more and like david montgomery lane but whatever clearly i don't know the nickname well they both could do it both all right it is what it is yeah either one of them could be whoever they want to be because uh they got the full package that's about as dynamic of a duo we've seen we saw what they did to the jaguars and we'll get into that in a second uh but first we want to start out with a game that might have been my favorite game from this past week, especially from Sunday. Steelers beat the Ravens.
There's something about Steelers and Ravens game. It's always tight.
Come on, man. It's always physical, like that AFC North style of play that we grew up watching in Cleveland.
AFC North, man. And it did not disappoint.
My goodness. When you're playing, especially when you you're older and the chippiness happens on the field i feel like a lot of times you're like dude will you stop with the nonsense like what what are you doing being ridiculous you know i mean like just like can we just play football why you got to get into all this other stuff i haven't felt that yet that's the way i was now i find myself like dude i love it i love when people are like getting each other's faces and talking trash like roger jones going at it with humphrey they got to get worn because they're about to get kicked out of the game because they're jawing at each other and hitting each other after the whistle that's the kind of football that gets you excited and that's what this game that's the energy this game had and that's the energy your guys game had you guys are a lot of back and forth deon dawkins was all over the place um That's when you know the meaningful games are happening.
And it was fun to see that kind of football being played. And the Steelers and Ravens, it was an old-fashioned bar brawl.
It was two teams that knew how important the game was. They were going at it.
And ultimately, the Steelers won the game without scoring a single touchdown. Six field goals, baby.
Boswell, six field goals, leading them to victory. I will say, Steelers won the game.
Their defense looks outstanding, and they clearly know how to kind of get under Lamar's skin. They kind of have always played them well.
Part of it's their defensive line is just so good, and they kind of shut down some of the run actions and things that Baltimore likes to do. You know, T.J.
Watt is a dynamic player. Cam Hayward is a dynamic player.
The Ravens had their opportunities, and I still came away from the game thinking that the Ravens are probably the better team. They just had a lot of penalties, a lot of mistakes, and things kind of kept the Steelers in the game for long enough to secure a victory.
Shout out to the Steelers. It's a big win for them.

They're playing a lot better.

Eight and two or nine and two as well, I think.

Yeah, they're right there.

Potential coaching changes.

At this point in the season, there's a lot of speculation,

obviously, on what is in the future.

Because at this point in the season,

there's some teams that are clearly not going to be competing for a Super Bowl.

And some fan bases want to know what is in store for next year.

They've already given up, Trav.

I just don't believe in doing that, man.

What do you mean?

Thank you. be competing for a super bowl and uh some fan bases want to know what is in store for next year they've already given up trev i just don't believe in doing that man what do you mean firing a coach midway through the season way through the season i just i i understand things can probably get hostile in the building between the front office and a head coach and i understand that that could be a part of it but if you don't know the direction you're going in the future to just fucking can a guy and make everyone's life that much harder to change the scenery that much.
I just I don't see the benefits of it. I think for me, I've also never been a part of a team where that was.
Listen, you've Andy Reid pretty, pretty good. You guys have had the coaching thing figured out.
First of all, I agree. I think most of the time it does not make, I don't like firing a head coach midway through the season.
I'll say the one time that I think it probably does make sense in some regards is if there's tension in the building as a result of things not going well. And the head coach is not a part of fixing that.
He's a part of like making that an issue and exacerbating problems and exacerbating. That was the word I was looking for.
Cause thank you. You know, there's a, you know, how do you know when the right time is to move on from a head coach? I think a lot of that comes down to when there's just like a difference of where you want the team to go from the ownership and personnel.
And like there's a disconnect on, you know, where we want to go next. And what we're doing right now isn't working.
And it's time for, in the best interest of everybody involved, to move on. And most of the time, the right time to make that decision is after the season.
But there are some times where it's like, all right, listen, this is like not a conducive environment that we want to have. We want to have everyone more on the same page.
So let's get rid of the head coach. And it also kind of establishes to all the players that are still there, like, oh, God, they just fired the coach.
we gotta you know we're next if we don't prove kind of you know who we are and what we mean to this team yeah in general usually not a fan of that uh but that's kind of when you know it's

time to move on when it's just like man you know this coach has had his opportunities in his time

and it just hasn't gone that way or in a worse way it's like man everybody's, everybody's finger pointing upstairs. That's when it's bad.

When people are finger pointing upstairs, you know, everybody's every,

all the coaches in front office doors are closed instead of open.

It's not a good sign. Yeah.
Another blowout loss.

So I guess these are who we're talking about my man,

Doug Peterson in Jacksonville lost 52 to six to the lions.

Another blowout loss. I mean, listen, it is not gone well for the Jags this year.
And I think there's a number of reasons for that. Listen, I played for Doug.
I know the type of coach he is. I know how much he cares about his players and the value he brings in that position.
Oh, yeah. I will never not be willing to play and suit up for Doug Peterson.
I'm right there with you, brother. Because of the type of guy he is and the way he coaches the game.
So it hurts me that they're struggling down there in Jacksonville. And ultimately, the head coach bears the brunt of all this stuff.
That's part of that position. But it's hard for me to go there with Doug because I know what a fantastic, phenomenal coach he is another one that people are talking about is uh you know a situational failure uh with the bears and packers bears are now five and 17 and one score games under uh iber flus since 2022 man that's rough there there was another stat out there that that really is just It's like he just luck just hasn't been on his side late in the games, man.

I will say. There was another stat out there that really is just like, luck just hasn't been on his side late in the games, man.

I will say that stat that he's been in that many close games,

and I just think that Iberflus is a deep end. I think there was another stat saying that he's had the most 90% chances to win.

Yeah, bad errors.

Yeah.

I forget what it was, man. I had the fortune fortune of meeting coach Ibra Floos over the offseason actually at the Kentucky Derby man I met him at the Derby great fucking guy you could tell the guy just fucking loves ball man we were hanging out talking ball just about the entire time we were around each other man he used to be the linebackers coach in Dallas and he would coach Sean uh sean lee and a bunch of those guys and give me fits he was a he's a fantastic coach yeah defense has not been the issue for the most part in chicago they've played defense pretty well uh they've really struggled offensively and again ultimately the head coach is kind of the one that bears everything the fact that they're in that many one score games that tells me that the defense has been playing well they've had opportunities they just haven't been able to execute uh obviously there's the one glaring one that they're in that many one-score games, it tells me that the defense has been playing well.
They've had opportunities. They just haven't been able to execute.
Obviously, there's the one glaring one that they kind of messed up on with the Hail Mary and even the play before the Hail Mary against Washington earlier this year. The block field goal.
I don't know how you put that on Iberflus, but I guess you put everything on it. One fucking paw in the air, man.
You can't just fucking get me. It's not even like they got penetrated.
How did iberflues not tell them to not let them put their hands up keep the hands down on yeah he's been hit with a bunch of things that just i feel like have been out of his control but there's so much to go into all of uh of a football game all four quarters of a football game and like you said man the head coach is he's going to take the wrath. He's going to take the beating if something's going on.
Yeah. So I don't know.
The one thing with Iver Flues that's, and listen, I think he's a fantastic defensive coach. They just invested a lot of money into Caleb Williams.
So they need to figure out something that's going to make that kid thrive. And maybe that's, if it's not the offensive coordinator, you got to hire a guy and steal

him from an organization that is a proven offensive mind, in my opinion.

I think you have to figure that out just from like a resource allocation, right?

They need and want Caleb Williams to pan out.

They're going to have to figure out a way to make that happen because they got players

over there.

Like there's weapons over there and DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, they got horses over there.

You know what I mean?

So their offensive line has struggled a little bit, but even that, I think, I think they

Thank you. Like there's weapons over there and DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, they got horses over there.
You know what I mean? So their offensive line has struggled a little bit, but even that, I think they kind of got some decent offensive line. I mean, they just haven't really executed as well.
Big question mark in the NFL for head coaches is a very shocking one for me because I've had a lot of trouble going, or at least had a lot of bumps in the road going up against his team. And that's Zach Taylor at Cincinnati.
Yeah, when you start seeing quotes, it's not a good sign, right? Jamar Chase said, how do I do it? I don't know. Ask Zach.
Ask the coaches. Don't ask me.
That's not my job. What was the question? Was asked, how can the team finish better? That was the question was, how does the team finish better? How do I do it? I don't know.
Ask Zach. Ask coaches.
Don't ask me. That's not my job.
I don't think he's throwing shade at Zach in this. Yeah, I think he's just pissed off.
I don't call plays for us, you know, so I can't really do nothing. I think he's just basically saying that's like, yeah, I mean, maybe he's throwing shade.
Let me think about this more. How the team could finish better.
I mean, just deflecting blame. Yeah.
And putting it on Zach. And, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know what to think about this. This wasn't as bad as I thought before seeing it.
I think this is probably a guy that's just frustrated. You know, it feels like.
Yeah. Doesn't have the answers right then and there.
You know,'s playing his fucking ass off he's leading he's about to be the triple crown winner if he stays on this pace and freaking beast yeah so it's like i mean he's doing everything he can to to win and i think the question itself was asking him hey do you have the answers he's like no i mean that's yeah exactly you pay the coaches i'm reading it to figure it out yeah that's pay grade kind of type answer. Yeah, especially right the fuck now after I just had another heartbreaking loss.
Like, what do you like? Yeah. What the fuck are you even asking me right now? I think it was one of those defer to the head guy and let the head guy answer those questions.
Because right now I don't want to fucking even think about it. It has to be believes plays are part of why Cincinnati isn't finishing.
He said, I don't know. He's just being honest.
Yeah. I don't know.
I think he's spoke his mind in the past, and I think people are just looking for those kind of quotes from him. But I don't think this one, I don't think you dive too deep into this one.
Or maybe you do. I think they're going to, especially ininnati because the bangles are much worse than they expected them to be you know everyone expected this team with uh burrow coming back and being healthy to be a super bowl contender and as of right now it looks like they're not going to make the playoffs so zach taylor is going to face a ton of criticism and And again, that's the nature of it.

He's been there for six years.

This is where it starts.

But the Bengals are unique.

The Bengals don't, you know, family run business.

They hold on to coaches.

I would say that Coach Taylor is not going anywhere.

The one thing that probably does make sense, Dallas.

I mean, so bad last night against Houston. It just doesn't feel like anything is headed in the right direction.

It doesn't really look like that's a motivated football team.

I don't know.

It looks like it's a bad last night against Houston. It just doesn't feel like anything is headed in the right direction.
It doesn't really look like that's a motivated football team. I don't know.
It looks like it's a bad situation. It looks like everybody's collecting checks over there.
And you can tell a team when it's fighting. And it doesn't look like too many guys are out there fighting.
No. And, like, you want to talk about quotes.
There's a lot of quotes, stuff on the sideline. I i mean they fought in the first half yesterday yeah they try to fake pun i just ask these nuts talk about these nuts all time i love it i'm too much of a child man i'll defer to that all the shout out the digs man i know that shit i mean it sucks losing and when you don't have your best players out there dac's not playing it's it's it's tough man it's tough you know cd lamb's out there trying to make shit shake as much as he possibly can and same with the run game it's just it's tough man what sucks for mike is that it feels like a lot of what is going on in dallas and listen dak hasn't played as well as everybody expected this year it feels like it's a lot of it's personnel driven like they had opportunities to sign guys this offseason they chose not to they trusted the guys they had in the building and a lot of those young guys and people that they trusted just have not played at a high level.
And I don't know that you can blame Mike McCarthy for that. Maybe you can.
I don't know who's making those decisions. Brandon saying, yes, you do our resident Dallas fan, Brandon intern, Brandon.
I think it's more Jerry's fault. That's kind of what I'm getting at.
Like Jerry's the one who's making all of these decisions he's the one who created this fucking stadium so that the sun would peek through he's the one that fucking that doesn't want to do maintenance on the ceiling if we want to get rid of mike mccarthy go for it i do think they just paid dak all this money similar to caleb williams like They got to find a way to get him going for it to make sense.

Oh, yeah.

They're invested in him.

They've invested a lot of money.

I know that Caleb isn't getting it.

When that investment has been made in the quarterback,

you have to figure out a way for that investment to make sense.

The Giants are in the same boat right now.

Oh, no.

Their cards have already shown.

They're moving on from Dale Jones.

What?

Is this news? Did he just get benched or something? He got benched. They're going to Tommy Cutlets, baby.
Why? Shut the – I swear to God, Tommy Cutlets is back. You didn't hear this? No, man.
Yeah, baby. Not only did they bench Dale Jones, they didn't even go to Drew Locke.
They went straight to Tommy Cutlets. Listen.
I'm like, what is going on? They just want those shirts. They want everybody in the stadium like, hey, we know we're not very good.
We're just going to be a caricature of an Italian dude from New York now. But no, I mean, this is clearly the Daniel Jones experiment is over.
They're benching him so that he doesn't get hurt and they don't owe him a bunch of money. There's going to be a bunch of changes in New York after this season.
But yeah, back to Dak in Dallas. Yeah, we aren't talking about that one.
How's that one not on the coaching? I mean, is Dayball, you think Dayball safe? He was the coach of the year two years ago. I don't really know what to say about all this coaching stuff because it's hard to know what the right moves are unless you're in these buildings.
Ultimately, coaches are responsible for the product, for the outcomes beyonce halftime is coming to you live on christmas day miss it damn it yeah baby i can't wait to watch this one announced this week beyonce will be performing at halftime of the texans ravens game on netflix yeah how much does the nfl hate the nba the NBA Christmas games? What did Adam Silver do you deserve this?

Listen, NBA does not have, you know.

Christmas, right?

Yeah.

They don't have, you know, they're not the king of Christmas.

No.

Especially when the NFL's in town, baby.

Hey-o.

Come on now. We get some big-time matchups.

Texans, Ravens, Chiefs, Steelers.

How about that?

Who would have thought?

I mean.

The NFL people got to figure it out.

Come on now.

Pretty good.

Pretty good.

Hopefully Netflix can figure it out as well.

Because the last time.

Dude, hopefully they get the streaming stuff right.

God damn it.

My shit got froze literally on Mike Tyson's cheeks.

Dude, that was the one. It felt like a parody going into it yeah just from like mike slapping them in the in the weigh-ins and or the inner or like the yeah of course the pre-fight stuff yeah you know that's like and then just a bit dude when he did the interview and then because i'm pretty sure he did the interview with his son that was the son that interviewed him he kisses him on the cheek which i've never seen that in an interview ever in my life the guy is done with the interview right before his fight goes and kisses another man on the cheek says i love you and then walks off and the camera pans and slightly goes down so he can catch this guy in nothing but a jock.
I'm not gonna lie. I immediately sent that to fucking everyone.
That was the funniest shit ever. I was not watching at this point.
I'm kind of embarrassed that I watched this to begin with. I should have known better.
What? I couldn't help myself. Oh, man.
I will say, though, the moment I saw that clip on social media like I didn't think Mike was going to win before but I knew when I saw those cheeks he wasn't going to win lose your glutes, lose your game I mean he got an old man ass in that photo if we're being honest if we're being honest how are you supposed to keep your glutes past like 40 this is my point, this is why Andy said that lose your glutes lose your game you can't be out there with saggy glutes he he doesn't have the same he wasn't bouncing he wasn't he tried he was trying to bounce around he could still what my ass but the face like a legitimate person that trains in boxing there's a whole nother thing yeah oh no man i just think that was uh that was some funny ass shit hopefully netflix though back to the point yeah figure out streaming yeah especially if we're gonna be watching all about all the christmas games on netflix because i was fucking i was pretty pissed i was pretty pissed it kept going in and out it kicked me out kicked me off about four or five times i am pissed at nothing netflix did i'm only mad at myself for actually spectating that and contributing that stuff like that happens i don't know what i like i just love mike tyson so much i couldn't help but watch it but i mean it was i just love watching cleveland i knew what i was going into before it like even happened and i still like just could not help but you can't nobody can it's the best shit ever i'm not gonna lie the ass interview definitely i think i don't think i was gonna watch it kylie and i were watching great british bake-off and then i saw that ass interview and i was like kai i gotta watch this interview i gotta watch this old man who used to be the baddest person on the planet try and go up against this fucking beast of a cleveland kid this west side cleveland kids living out their dreams baby that's what i'm here for shout out to the paul brothers baby dude i just holy cow shout out to jake paul for not knocking out mike the mike tyson that we know if he was in jake paul's position he would have fucking ko'd that guy into a coma well that's why jake paul is not mike tyson he's got a heart yeah they wanted to talk about the interview with the kid that was asking you know uh what do you think of your legacy mike and yeah but that i'm talking about the vicious that's a great yeah that's a different level that one thing is not changing about mike Tyson is his ability to answer interviewers in the most Mike Tyson. That's a different level.
If one thing is not changing about Mike Tyson, it's his ability to answer interviewers in the most spectacular fashion. You think I give a fuck about legacy? We're all going to be dead.
Who cares about legacy when you're dead? Shout out to the young girl reporting. God damn, she was really professional.
She kept it together. That's a very interesting...
I've never thought of it like that. They did not prepare me for this in my multimedia class in high school.
I did not know that I was going to get ridiculous people to. Well, welcome to fight night.
Okay, at some point, somebody's going to tell you that nothing you do in life matters because everybody's going to be dead. And you're going to have to act like it wasn't a ridiculous statement go okay i can i understand that i get where you're coming from oh okay shout out to mike tyson man fuck dude legend all right that does it for week 11 recap brought to you by burger king all right now let's move along to no dumb questions to close out the show with some uh Dumb Questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions.
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How about it, man? All right. We're going to answer some not dumb questions from our Heitz Hotline voicemails today.
How about it, man? Heitz Hotline is hot. It's a hot hotline.
Next hotline next caller on the hotline what do you got for us hi guys um my name's ashley and um big fan of the podcast uh but when we see like other 92 percenters out in the wild what are we supposed to do you know like for eagles we say like go birds or chiefs you know but what do we say when we see a fellow 92 percenter out in the wild you know yeah we'd be yelling anything at all i like this should it be something you know profane i'm not sure probably not anyway would love to know bye thank you ashley for uh calling in on theline. Yeah, thank you very much.
I don't think that's a dumb question at all. This is an awesome question.
I have not pondered. So, Jason, I don't know about you, but whenever I'm out and about, I do get random calls and shout-outs from the 92%ers.
No doubt. The real ones listening in every single week.
I'll always get a good new news. Get that that's a fucking that's like a fuck that's yeah that's a that's a calling for all the 92 percenters to unite right there and then uh which profound is that what she said she wants one that's profound profane is what she said asking if we should have a swear word in there, which, listen, usually I'm all for profanity.
But this is a- Just yell out fornicating. I think that one.
That'll get everyone to be like, wait, what? I only know one guy that really talks about that on a weekly basis. We're going to be in a public setting.
We should probably limit the profanity. Just yell Jumanji instead of somebody put jumanji on you know for some reason what i thought of right away so new heights is obviously an ode to cleveland heights where we grew up the heights baby what do heights no matter what like class you're from heights high heights high like that's the that's the international heights high greeting yeah what can we bring that to new heights new heights new heights or should we just do heights high i think new news is this probably the best one well new news is definitely the one that everybody goes but new news always does it how about you guys us some recommendations? How do you guys greet each other out in public when, not just us, what do you guys say to each other? What are the first things you bond over when you see somebody wearing some new Heights apparel or somebody you know that watches the show? That's a tough one to answer for us.
And I don't know that we have the. Credentials.
Credentials. Yeah, the power to make such an audacious decision for our fan base.
There we go. Why don't we get another one? You hit us with another one, Matt.
Hey, guys. Hoping you can answer a question that's causing a bit of a disagreement between me and the wife.
Okay. When is the earliest appropriate time to put up the Christmas tree? Am I being a complete Scrooge by saying we should wait at least until after

Thanksgiving?

Thank you and go birds.

I think Thanksgiving has always been the date.

In the Kelsey household, Thanksgiving was the day.

Yeah.

I mean, preferably you put it up on Christmas Day.

I really, we never stay true to this.

Put it up on Christmas?

Thanksgiving, sorry.

Put it up on Thanksgiving Day.

So I like the tradition. We have never done this in our our house but maybe we actually will get it done this year where after thanksgiving's over you put the christmas tree up i like that tradition i think that that's a good one you know thanksgiving's really the start of christmas season we would have the christmas tree already up though no but you got the christmas tree you've bought it already but't been put up, right? Maybe you buy it the day before.
I'm pretty sure we put it up, yeah, like a few days before, and then the ornaments, and you dress the tree. You dress it.
That's an egg-Kelsey question. Thanksgiving is definitely, to me, the pinnacle day that you're really – that's the start of Christmas season.
I sit here advertising a Christmas album. I'm also not trying to see Christmas lights in the beginning of November.
I'm kind of with you. Don't do that to me.
Don't ruin Thanksgiving. Let Thanksgiving be its own thing.
It's lead up and it's so good on its own. You have Halloween, Thanksgiving, and then right after Thanksgiving.
I mean, the moment that turkey goes down, you're gullet. Parents get to force their kids to eat stuff that they don't want, to teach them lessons in life, to be thankful.
Let Thanksgiving be its own day. Hey, Jason and Travis.
This is Lisa from Akron, Ohio. Okay.
Love you as people and love your show. Rubber bull.
My relationship question for you. Oh, they want to hear from the ladies, man.
I have two boys who don't love to do chores and I told them when they're older, they're going to have to be doing them around the house anyways. So I wondered...
Very old-fashioned. What chores did you do growing up around the house and do you do them now as an adult? Oh, don't uh well you gotta understand you know you gotta understand you i mean you know yes i did do chores so i started off as a child having to do chores i feel like that's very good uh important lessons uh that i learned from mom and dad um we've both expressed the stuff that our father used to have us do in spreading mulch outside cutting the grass with a with just a blade lawnmower engine leaves raking leaves you know that was all the outside stuff that dad didn't want us to do yeah vacuuming we never really did the trash did the trash.
No, no, because, yeah, Big Ed, he was always up early. He was the first one up.
He was always the one taking trash out. And Mom did do our laundry, too, which, shout out to Mom.
Shout out to Mom. I wish Mom kind of made us to our laundry, because I'm awful doing laundry.
It's not that hard, Jason. I know.
I just suck at it. It really isn't that hard at all.
I'm not good at it. Every now and then, I'll get into it But I say that I did it at a younger age because now I'm so busy.
And I like naps. There's so many services that just do things better than me.
They fold better. Put shit away better.
Everything's just way more organized when I'm not doing that. Not that I can't do it because mom taught us very valuable lessons in being able to do this on our own if we needed.
And there's times where, you know, it's like the one thing Kylie makes me do is trash. That is firmly my job.
Nice. And I suck at it.
I miss it all the time because we're traveling right now. But I try to really stay on top of the trash, taking the trash down and embracing that.
Not that I am trying to do the dishes all the time, but I've done them occasionally. Kylie hates when I do the dishes.
She just has OCD about getting all the food off the plate before you put it in the dishwasher. And the dishwasher instructions clearly state to not do that, to like put it in the dishwasher.
Like it gets cleaner without doing that. Really? It gets cleaner without doing that? I'm just saying what the instructions say.
I'm the instruction follower. Well, that's how they sell you.
That's how they get you. That's what it says.
It says somehow like using soap and scrubbing it off first and then putting it in there for some reason like i don't know why but that's what they say oh kylie's getting mad at me right now she's got ocd about cleaning stuff that i can't really stop fucking exposing me all right we'll keep your hands off the dishes, Jason. Fine.
I won't do the dishes. Yeah.
No, you should do your chores. If your parents tell you to do your chores.
And for all of you that don't live with your parents now and have a fucking messy house, figure it out. Oh, beautiful boots.
Oh, beautiful gloves. Oh, look at your hat.
Sorry about that. I was getting shown a pair of new boots, new gloves, and new hats.
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