#134: Hawaii House from “The Bachelorette” Filled with 9 Figure Companies

People are mentally weak.

Oh yeah. Like there's just a lot of weakness bred in our society.
And maybe it's because of the luxuries we have, but like we need mental toughness. Physically, you can do so much more than you think you can.
Right. Nobody knows what I'm capable of.
Nobody's seen me in secret, right? That's where I have to like win is the secret battles and just be like, okay, what is Chris capable of? What am I up against? Now I know I'm capable of more.

And I think that's where all of us have to get to

is like understand, like,

what does God know that I'm capable of doing?

Letting go of control is realizing like,

hey, God has a plan.

And all that you can do is be the best version of yourself,

except that whatever you can do

and whatever you're blessed to receive is, and accept whatever that path looks like versus trying to you know shape that path ourself yo so we are coming from the waterfall house here in helo we got mr tyler mccallister here welcome welcome welcome thank you dude. So we're going to be spending the next three days here at a mastermind.
A lot of you guys have heard us talk about our focus on masterminds and like getting together, solving problems, both personal, professional, everything like that. And the cool thing is like this spot, I can say is my favorite spot in the world for it.
So I want to hear Tyler, you just got here. It's the first time seeing it.
Tell us what your initial reaction seeing this place was. So if I could make up that perfect vacation home in Hawaii with land, waterfall, river, house, like this is it in real life right here.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's pretty amazing. I'm not even sure I could even imagine it up, right? Oh, yeah.
No, it's incredible. When you say a king lived here and you walk on the property, you're like, this is fit for a king itself is insane yeah and i wish the cameras could do it justice yeah you got to see it with your own eyes like when i when i share it on social media or the pictures i'm just like that's that's not it yeah i'm like i'm like that looks cool but like it's it's different i think there's more to it too it's like what you see but it's also what you feel this place has got a feeling to it that i i love like when i walk in here i'm like wow the magic's here like you feel it um there was a a guy who helps manage the property brought um an elder from the island here and he said when he came up on the property he started started weeping.
What? I didn't know the story.

Yeah. And he said he just felt like this was a very like sacred area,

sacred space. Yeah.
And so, uh, it's cool when you're here, you feel good.

It feels, I call it the tree house. Cause you're like up high,

you got the river down below and you got these trees,

massive trees all around you that are kind of encompassing.

The nature is incredible here. The plants.
We had some rain today. The grass is beautiful.
Local tropical fruit and all of this. Yeah, just the whole house and body is the experience.
You know, I think it's interesting because a lot of people listening to this or watching this, they're involved in business of some sort.

Right. They're either got an idea there.
They're trying to build a business, start a business, whatever else. And a lot of times, right, like we focus on just the numbers.
for me, my career, like when I take time away from the business and I go to places like this,

for example, and, and really like focus from a 30,000 foot view on my life, on my business, on my everything else. It's like, there's something magical about like removing yourself from being in nature, like kind of like reflecting on like all the goodness that you have and being able to go and focus.
And me that's really helped in my professional career just like having these reset type moments and that's like when i saw this place when the guy was like hey yo this is about to hit the market and he sent the pictures both me and daryl like call each other up like dude do you see that there's no way that's There's no way that's real. And so, but we felt drawn to this for like more ways than one.
It wasn't just like a good investment or a beautiful property. It was like something like almost like spiritual place to like, like I said, kind of detach, focus in, revert back.
I think too, like when you're having success, when you're trying to have success, when you're doing things, like you got to have more than just like numbers, right? It's like, I want to make a million dollars this year. It's like, why? Right.
And it's like, how do you make your life fun? How do you make it exciting? How do you make this life like meaningful? And it's things like this, it's places like this where you get to experience something that kind of just takes you somewhere special. And I think that's what this place represents for me.
It's like having fun, being in nature. It's a special place.
So I'm interested to know from like both of you guys, like what your guys' personal development journey has been, both business, personal, like what has been important to you that is no longer important to you like um how you've learned grow develop right like what go ahead i love the story like uh in second grade i was i was i was always going out to this like group of like eight of us and i remember going out there and i was like why why are we coming out of the classroom? I didn't get it. I'm like, oh, you guys don't know how to read, so we're teaching how to read.
And that stuck with me. And I remember graduating college still in my mind thinking I don't know how to read.
And I can remember after graduating from college, Chris was like, hey, dude, let's read this book. I'm like, okay, cool.
What is it? It was Rich Dad, Poor rich dad poor dad and i remember thinking man i don't read very well so i'm gonna try to read this book finish it before chris can remember that so i read this book and i got done with it i'm like dude i love that that was so cool so then it was like let's read another book and we kept reading books and then all of a sudden it got into just so do you think that was like your your first like where like hey i'm working on myself outside of what the school system told me to do yeah i honestly don't think i really understood i didn't understand entrepreneurship i didn't understand a lot of things but i was super ambitious and i felt like when i started reading books it was elevating me to think differently than i had ever thought before yeah um i had been been taught just work really, really hard and like just work hard. Like just work hard.
Don't read. Don't read.
It wasn't don't read. It was just work hard.
And there wasn't really this idea that to be creative. Right.
What about you, Tyler? What's like your journey been in just like developing? Obviously, you're running a very successful business now. You're building a real cool thing down in Arizona.
Like what is what has been your path to get there? Mentorship is really big for me. I feel like I learn really well through others.
I'm very curious. I ask a lot of questions.
And I've always been really drawn to people around me that have had that are further down the road and have gotten to where I want to get to. And I, I love earning time with these people to kind of mine what the journey is like.
Like if I can forecast and kind of see a little bit of what that looks like and help me navigate through that a little bit more, I feel like it, it gives me some of the wisdom of not having to go through so many struggles on my own and kind of helped me adapt the mindset of what it takes to get there. So that's been really helpful.
Um, and I have a 30 minute to commute to and from work every day. And so I've learned, I really enjoy audible whenever I'm driving, I can, I can pound through a whole bunch of books.
And so what's been your favorite one recently uh profit first profit first yeah nice who's the who's the author of that i don't remember jared you remember michael something his last name is tough um so i really like that one and then patrick bet david's your next five moves um that was a great solid

i haven't read that one pbd's obviously stud right like he's got he's got a lot of really good things he was very political in this last election which was fun to see uh but uh yeah no that's cool that's cool you know it's interesting you said like you like to learn from mentors were you always that way um i would say i i would say yes because you know my path in the door-to-door industry i felt like was successful because i really latched on to leaders and not a pay scale and not a company yeah i latched on to the leaders that i felt like hey this is someone who's creating a life and a future that I would like to have and I want to follow. And so I just highly valued the people that I was allowing to influence me.
And that was my focus more so than, you know, an individual pay structure or the company title. And that got me really far in life because I learned what good leadership looked like.
I learned what culture was like and the things that I wanted to create in my own life. I was getting firsthand education, and so that mentorship became an anchor in my life, and I was very different than my father.
My dad was a very brilliant guy, mechanical engineer, very practical A-type personality, and I was very creative, And so, you know, my dad hammered through school. He kept all of his college books.
He would still read them. Like, he was just a very educated guy.
I always thought I'd do that. And I kept, I think I still have them.
But like, I don't think I've cracked them once. Yeah.
I can remember buying every college book I bought. I'm like, I'm going to read this one.
Oh, I spent $300 on this. So, and I forgot to sell it back.
So, yeah. So my dad, good for him.
Yeah. I mean, and my dad's advice was like stay in school and get a job, but my path led me to entrepreneurship.
And so I had to really latch onto people that understood that world. And, um, I had to learn it through you know just firsthand dude good for you because you know it took it took me falling flat on my face to like start asking for help right like when i was in my 20s i loved to act like i knew what was going on right like and i was pretty intelligent like, I, I was, I did pretty good for not knowing anything.
Right. Like, or, and I definitely thought I knew everything, right.
Like I was, I was too good for education or mentors or asking for help. And like, dude, it, I mean, it took a toll on me and like, I just love to like act as if I had it figured out and then just go to try to like like think through it on my own and then go and do it and like that that ultimately like I wish I would have made the shift sooner right but again the the failure that I experienced because I was such an arrogant prick is probably the best thing that could ever happen to me where it humbled me and put me in a position where like, man, I need some help.
I need to go and learn from others. Kind of like Daryl talked about, the beginning of our path was like, all right, let's read.
Let's read from these mentors that we don't personally know so they don't have to see us asking for help right and and so we we kind of read books and then we went to a couple conferences but then we still could try to figure out on our own and we were doing all these dumb little businesses that like we had no idea what we were doing I think too the whole concept of like having a coach or paying someone or going to a seminar that seems so um hokey uncomfortable like why would i pay all this money you know yet i would go to school and pay 1500 bucks in books that i never read right isn't that funny yeah it's it's way more comfortable if society accepts it right yeah ever encourages it and i think uh yeah like i the way i looked at like the self-development world was like a little hokey like initially i mean even if you talk to the uh an average person who doesn't read any of those books if they have if they never read those books and you talk about self development it's like it's kind of like a woo-woo thing right it's like oh yes help yourself like it's just a weird mentality yeah self-help but yet it's like it's powerful like anyone who's, if you help yourself, if you figure out how to help yourself, like you'll. You know, it's funny that they even call it self-help because it's not right.
Like you're helping yourself by having others help you. Correct.
Right. Because whether it's an author or a mentor or a coach or something else.
So, Chris, who's one of your like who's one of your top mentors? I'd say for sure the guy that I learned from the most from more of a distant, not like a lot of personal interaction was Todd Peterson. Yeah.
And, you know, I actually talked about this on a – I was doing like a little training for a bunch of multi-level marketing people this last week they brought me on as a guest and I talked about how like before I worked for Todd when I was running my businesses I hated Todd right like every everything about him he felt like he was an arrogant prick thought like you know just whatever but then i realized the reason i hated him is because he did it right and i didn't yeah you know and and so then i shifted my mindset when i ultimately you know i i talk about like there was a four and a half year period where i worked for three different businesses that i call my paid education and like i was very intentional from learning from these guys and todd just taught taught me so much by the way that the way he built his empire right like building it with transparency and culture and like just just so much like even the way like he structured his pay scales and it was just like very transparent across the board of like this is what we pay if you want to get to the next level these are the x y and z there's no secrets there's no nothing it was cool to see i thought like the the respect of those around him for todd were was immense and the way he treated everybody like he treated everyone like you were the only person he was talking to like he's i even had him uh one time i was talking with him it was just me and my daughter and just he like gave us his full attention he had someone come to him he told him to hold on and just like finish talking to us and uh it was it was one of like the first times i've it was just me him and my. And it was just like the amount of respect he gives people.
That's why he gets so much respect back. Yeah.
Yeah. So Todd, you know, I didn't, and the way I look at with mentors, you got to pay them in one way or another.
You either pay by working for them or you pay by getting in the room with them, with time, energy money and so todd i i paid for by by working for him right and kind of studying him from abroad which you know i i knew having owned a home security business beforehand exactly what the margins were what he was making on my production and everything else but like that was like such incredible opportunity or the cost of learning from him. It was just, yeah, working with him in his corner.
So that was a cool pivotal part of my career. And Todd has continued to be just a cool person to learn from and study from afar.
And I've had a handful of conversations with him since i've not worked with him and like like you said i think that was like at an investor conference right when you had that conversation with you and his daughter but yeah how about how about uh how about you one one person i love is uh is jeff scholls and chris you know him but he was a guy that i i was like so when i left when i left home for college my dad he was like told me something he's like i want you to leave and you're not welcome to come back like to live back home i could come visit but just like can't come back home to live so when i left for college i decided to go on a mission i had some time i had to figure out what to do with i was trying to figure out who do I know that's rich and my sister from my sister I heard things about this guy Jeff I'm like trying to figure out how to work for him but anyways I go to work for him and at the time like money was like the most scarce thing in the world like and so to be around someone who who in my perception had a lot of money um he treated he always treated people better than he like money was like the secondary thing and it was good for me to see that because i just i hadn't been around someone who had money um and he said an example for me that i think has impacted me the rest of my life of like never put money over people well i remember one of the lessons that you shared from like just that time of like one never allow a meal not to be on just one card right like whenever you go to eat one person always pays and it should almost always be you right like that that's i know that you learned that lesson from jeff and like he would he would take you guys to eat all the time, all the time and do the right. And, and just, uh, it was cool because we had a chance to go to lunch with him just the other day and right by him lunch, which, which was cool.
Cause I know earlier in our careers, he was, I mean, he pulled his wallet out too, you know? Yeah. But, uh, but no, Jeff, Jeff was a Jeff, Jeff's a special human in my book because he's actually besides you, the only person that believed in me, like after my bankruptcy, which which was really cool to see.
Like he saw how hungry we were and everything else and was willing to put money on the line for somebody that literally had just filed bankruptcy, which was crazy.

And so he helped us build our second alarm company because we didn't want to sell contracts anymore. We wanted the in-house accounts.
And so he put a fund together for us that we could draw on to essentially keep those accounts in-house. And that was just a really powerful lesson for me, like believe in people, right?

Like not...

I mean, to be honest with Jeff,

he gave me so many different loans like i needed one for a car i didn't have like credit so he gave me money for that like he would just and he didn't even like he didn't have any obligation to as well but he was a guy that was always there to help and like right you guys weren't even like really family like he was like this extended in-law of something else right like yeah yeah he he's definitely a cool like early stage mentor of so let me ask let me ask you this guys so like what so i know like like business we learn a lot about business we have to right things are always changing in business and stuff what about about your other aspects of life, like your health, relationships, spirituality? Like what are like some mentors or what, how are you developing there? Like what are the things you use or tools, Tyler? Is there anything in those categories that you're working on or? Well, I'm really blessed. I had an awesome father who was really good at showing love and spending time and showing how to really create connection as a father.
And so that was really instilled in me. I knew I had a dad that always would come home, be excited to see me, give me a big hug and was always there to support me in anything I was doing.
And so, you know, I feel like that's that's an attribute I've been able to carry on for my dad.

When I come home, I'm good at being with my kids. And, um, you know, I care a lot about that connection and that time that we have together, cause I know how quick they're going to grow up.
And so, um, you know, that's been a huge influence on me in my life and the impact of having a good father in the home and, you know, my parents having a good relationship and just feeling like family and and home is the best place you could you could ever want to be and i want to make sure i perpetuate that with my kids and so when you talk about money and having fun and all that like to me that's not getting on the golf course or you know running away it's it's creating opportunities to connect with my kids and my family where i can really invest my time and experiences into them so for me i'd say that's been my number one influence there and then obviously um you know spiritually making sure that christ has centered my life i feel like the the blessings that i've been given in my life, I don't feel like are the merit of my own works. I feel like I need to always stay humble and grateful and recognize the blessings that God's given me because I have an abundance of what the Lord has given me, and I don't want to take that for granted.
So making, I'm keeping that centered. Amen.
That's awesome. Hallelujah.
What about you, Chris? Dude, you know, it's, it's interesting. You said like, okay, this business, whatever.
So I've never really idolized somebody in business unless they line up with all the other aspects that I, that I want. Um, I know like there, there's been a few, I guess you'd call mentors or people that I'm like okay I want to learn this one thing from them but I don't want to emulate them right like I'll give you an example Grant I love you but like there's only a few aspects about Grant Cardone in the past.
He's starting to line up some things now right he's starting to get his family and different things like that in order which i respect but like you know there's like just like this action part of him that i'm like i want to learn that but i don't necessarily want to put him in my mentor bucket right so like for me when i'm when i'm looking at people that i want to impact me in business like really it's like okay all the boxes, physically, economically, associations and their spirituality, right? Like, are they aligned? And so like, when I look at like a guy like Todd, right? Like I've, I've appreciated one, the guy's kept the same wife and has kids and respectable kids. And he talks really highly about her, right? Talks highly about his kids, keeps his family and everything.
Spiritually, yeah, like he's, you know, I'm sure he's not perfect, but he creates a lot of the same alignment that I want, which I'm like, okay, I respect that. Physically, guy works out, takes care of his body, everything like that.
And so like for me, like that's the's the mentor I've always tried to be as well. Right.
Like if I can, if I want to emulate this guy, I want to be the person that people can emulate. Like I'm not perfect in any of those categories.
Right. But like for me, that's, that's the thing I'm always, I'm always looking for.
I think it's impossible to like fully separate them out. Um, from a, from a standpoint, like I think if somebody gets it physically and understands the science of discipline and how a body works and everything else, naturally, nine times out of 10, they're going to apply it in these other areas of their life.
And if they're not, there's probably something going on here that they're cheating their way to the top. Yeah.
And so so if you if you don't cheat, chances are those principles are falling over into other areas. Now, I understand there's other aspects to it, right? Like you can't always have relationships aren't one sided.
For me, that's what I'm looking for. And a lot of it like is a level of education.
Like my dad he may have not been the best financially but he was his best financially right like my dad grew up in a in a white like a very like his dad was an alcoholic nobody in his family had ever stayed married didn't have the gospel of jesus christ right like and my dad took that went to school got a good job did everything society told him he was extremely disciplined invested half of his paycheck into his retirement right like did did all the things so even though my dad isn't like a perfect like entrepreneur financially he he got it like he's a great example of those those things which also showed up in his physical life his relationships everything like that you know i think like i think if someone's struggling i think if someone's struggling um like in their business or maybe in their relationship or maybe their health they should look at something else that they're they're also avoiding and start working on that. In other words, let's say I'm struggling financially, I should look at my health and figure out how to optimize my health.
If I'm struggling in my relationship, I should figure out how to figure out another aspect of my life that I could improve that's not so maybe heavy or over complicated and fix that first. I think a lot of times people get so stuck on the one thing when, like you said, these principles overlap amongst themselves.
And so I think if you can take the pressure off of this is way too complicated to fix. My relationship in my marriage, it's too complicated.
I don't know what to do like get yourself in a really good spot health wise get yourself in a really good spot spiritually and i think as you start to develop those those principles or alignment i think it will help your relationship you know uh one of my one of my first coaches that i paid for uh setemani right i i paid him. It was a pretty big check to be in his corner.
And for me, Sateman checked all the boxes. He wasn't like this multi-multi-millionaire or anything else, but he was doing a lot of things from a financial standpoint.
They were showing me the right principles. But I loved the fact that he

put like his fitness and everything. Like he was like cutting down, getting things right.
He talked a lot about like not lying to yourself. Right.
Like in, in like what areas of life am I, am I living a lie? What, what conversations am I avoiding? What's, uh, you know, all, all the different things, but, you know, to your point of like going and starting something different, that's kind of opposite. I think, I think a lot of times it is our fitness.
Like, I think, I think fitness can teach you a lot. And I think a lot of that originates by like why God put us on the earth, right? Like, like we were, we're here for a physical experience.

And if we understand how the body works and I'm, like I said, no, no physical specimen,

I wish I was in better shape.

I was, but, but like every time I like dial in, do something like very disciplined physically,

99 times out of a hundred, I have a better relationship with my wife.

I have, I perform better in business.

This is a very good idea. something like very disciplined physically 99 times out of 100 i have a better relationship with my wife i have i perform better in business i prefer like just all all the things like i'm more disciplined in my prayers it's it's like one of the easiest ways to create a ripple effect is like just start chalking up wins on the physical side and and like i said nine times out of ten it's gonna transfer over so i'm kind of experiencing a transformation physically um i feel like the last few years i've learned a lot of stuff from you know meditation tony robbins a lot of these different things i mean you're showing it off today jeez i'm in hawaii no sun's out but um anyways i remember the beginning of the year i'm thinking i've been i feel like i've gone through this transformation internally i need to like make it external and so i've been like lifting weights really focused on my diet eating a lot better um and that's been good what's really interesting is um when we were in boston i went and did that half marathon that was wild and do you guys know about this oh my gosh yeah so so i i don't run i haven't ran at all and i heard these guys were doing a marathon and i'm sitting in class been sitting there all week i'm thinking could i do a half marathon i don't know like 13 miles seems like pretty dang far and so i get a text across the room hey dude we should run a half marathon tomorrow and i was like no and uh anytime i have a dumb idea i try to rope chris in but he didn't uh that's like one of the first times i i was like not this time usually i'm i'm down for a dumb idea or something crazy but it was interesting i i ran it and i my goal is to not stop running and I I did.
Wow. It was – Dude, crazy.
Daryl, at least give it some buildup here. Shiz.
I mean, guy hadn't run more than a mile in the last five years at one point. Oh, or further, like 10 years.
Right? Like literally no training. He had lifted weights, done no cardio, anything like that.
And what was your what was your minute average it was 10 10 like runs a 10 minute average across 13 miles like dude i'm not sure i could even run a 10 minute one mile right now that's incredible but it was interesting because you didn't stop running never stopped dude that's that's the hardest part that was my whole goal i was like i will not stop running it's one thing to finish but then to have that stamina to keep going so i had a friend running with me and while we were running around mile two or three he says daryl if this isn't your pace if you're running slower than your pace you're gonna hate it like you make sure you're going your pace but then don't go faster than your pace because it'll also burn you out so around mile five he was like it was our pace was a little like just a little faster than he wanted to go because he he runs a lot and um and so he started to like kind of back off who is this uh fabio okay and so then i'm flabio yeah so i decided you know what i'm gonna stick to my pace i feel like it's good and so around mile five we separated um so the first mile was like forever i was like when's this first mile gonna end and then i'm like right mile two mile three and then they started to kind of click off i'm like just take one mile at a time and then um what was wild was the people on the sideline cheering yeah i was like i would i would say probably not the nicest things about them from an outside perspective, but now having ran a race, I finished because of those people. It was just them cheering and stuff that gave me energy to keep going.
It was being in that whole group of people that gave me the energy. It was a completely different experience than i had anticipated and what so what did that teach you like just the the whole physical experience of going and doing something that's like just just doesn't seem like conceivable frankly what were you gonna say what was it like first to finish like i want to hear what that was like so mile 10 yeah is when i started like holy crap this't, three more miles.
That's like, that was when it got hard. Yeah.
30% more. Yeah.
Yeah. 30% more.
I'm just saying all these things in my head. And I'm like, it was just, it started to get like pretty challenging at that point.
And I just started talking to myself and saying all kinds of stuff and having these conversations of like, you can do it. Stop thinking about it.
Focus on a little girl on the side of the road focus on the people up there you got a drink coming up and like you know i just i was just trying to like get myself focused back on where i needed to be uh but when i finished man i was like well no actually the finish line i couldn't see where it was but i could hear it because it kind of like did some turns and it wasn't our normal route and so so I was like, dude, I don't know how much longer I can keep going. Like I was just like, it was really weird.
I had like, I had, I was ready to check out as soon as that finish line came up. Yeah.
Uh, but then I finished cross the line finish and, uh, it was, it was a relief. It was a high.
Wow. That's incredible.
It was good. But what I, what I got from that, I realized that we have so much more capacity than we're giving ourselves credit for.
Yeah. Like, was it really that hard? No.
Like I did it. Right.
And I'm not the, I wouldn't sound like the mentally, the toughest mentally person I know. Like, but you're also not 400 pounds.
Correct. But dude, when I was on on mile nine i'm pretty sure an 80 year old passed me woman and when i was on mile 10 this dude that was probably twice as much weighed twice as much as me passed me i'm like oh dang you know i'll like focus on your race don't focus on them but um do we have so much in us yeah you know we talk about being tired we talk about being frustrated we talk about being angry like i do believe those are all choices those are all like patterns that we've just programmed into ourselves and i think there's so much work again i i think there's very little that can teach you that besides physical activity right like you you don't necessarily learn that when you're like the closest to that would maybe be knocking doors right like one more door or whatever else but like very few other things in your life do you get to that mental exertion where it's like dude i'm not sure i can keep going i'm not sure like what i'm capable of or whatnot right like we live in such a plush society right like air conditioning everywhere i mean we live better than kings did 200 years ago i love i don't know where you got this saying but you've said this for years it's uh not what i'm mentally capable of doing but what i'm physically capable of doing and i say that to myself in the gym all the time yep when i'm struggling like can i do one more i'm like physically yes mentally i'm deciding right so i do it i do one more yeah and then i do one more after that because it's physically you can do so much more than you think you can right yeah i mean it's it's remarkable that like like in situations where adrenaline kicks in right like you can lift a car you can do one more rep you can run 13 miles with with no training yeah right like yeah the physical limitations are always mentally put on ourselves but let's just talk about the reality the reality is is people are mentally weak oh yeah like there's just a lot of weakness bred in our society and maybe it's because of the luxuries we have but like dude i mean yeah there's there's some there's some like we need mental toughness i think i think one of the best way to get my teeth kicked in is like listen to some david goggins you know like a little can't hurt me like dude i remember the first time i i or listened to the audible can't hurt me i literally like got on my phone and and ordered marathon running shoes yeah i remember i'm running a marathon i got the text message hey hey daryl wel, we're running a marathon.
But that was old Daryl where I would try to get him excited about something and he would never do it. So it's cool to see a new Daryl in the last year, year and a half where he's up more to some of the physical challenges that I wanted.
Because I've always done stupid physical challenges. Like, Oh, it's like, like, Oh, I'm going to go do a 60 day juice fast.
Or I'm going to, you know, I don't know, see how long I can stay awake or 72 hour water fast. I was always like, I've always been active.
I've always been skinny, but I wouldn't say I've been like optimal health wise. Right.
And I think that's where I'm like, all right, I'm getting older now and I want to be optimal for as long as I can. Well, I think, I think the thing that shifted in you as well as like mentally, like you've been physically active just to be physically active.
I think you're actually connecting it with like the mentality now where like you want to do hard things and like kind of prove to yourself that like, that's always been me. Right.
Like the, and the in and i like for whatever reason i haven't ever been able to get you on board with that right you're always like oh that's stupid why would i do that just to do it right uh so that's that's been a fun transition in our relationship of like all right let's let's push the limits let's let's figure out what we're capable of doing, what about you? Where are you at physically? Like, what are some of the challenges you have or what are some of the things you want to change or shift around? Yeah. So I want to get my eating dialed in to where I know what I'm putting in my body and I understand what my macros and my protein and the calories.
I never count that. And, um, I think it would go a long way if I'm focusing a lot more and not like grabbing quick energy food out of the kitchen and just shoving it down the gullet and so what are your what are your worst foods you eat um probably carbs at night like if I just reach for a bagel and cream cheese at nighttime I like go to sleep that doesn't sit well you know nice but i mean that's that's quick easy fix if you don't want to do dinner at night you're just gonna throw down or you know guys like you that just really piss me off they can like eat a bagel and cream like dude i freaking like went a year without white flour fried foods and sugar sugar.
And I still got this dang thing, man. Like, I'll give one credit to you, Chris.
Like you have what? It's type two. Type one.
Type one diabetes. I was going to mix up.
Do not call it type two. Type one diabetes.
That's self-inflicted fat people. Sorry.
Sorry, self-inflicted fat people. You have type one diabetes and you never bring that up as like an issue.
but i see you always like having to like you're i had to get you something some sugar this morning because your blood sugar was out of whack yep um how do you how do you deal with that because that would be an easy excuse to say well i don't operate like everyone else you know i and i think that's like the thing I always have to look at is like, okay, Chris versus Chris, right?

Yeah. well, I don't operate like everyone else.
You know, I, I, and I think that's like the thing I always have to look at is like, okay, Chris versus Chris, right? Like, because if I allow myself to get outside of that, then I look at a guy like Tyler who's eating cream cheese and bagels and like, like, oh yeah, I'm struggling with like, screw you, dude, you're looking good, man. Like if I eat cream cheese and bagels, I would be 400 pounds, you know? And, uh, but I have to like remove that thought and just be like, okay, what is Chris capable of? What am I up against now? I know I'm capable of more.
Right. And, and so, and I think that's where all of us have to get to is like that, that understand like what what what does god know that i'm capable of doing and because like me and him are the only ones that know not my wife not daryl not any of my friends right nobody knows what i'm capable of nobody's seen me in secret right and so like that's that's where i have to like win is the secret battles yeah and so like um you know i i made a i made a really awesome decision i don't know what triggered in my little 10 year old brain but uh i was sitting in uh sitting in the hospital when i first got diagnosed with diabetes and uh this nurse i still remember her

name her name was kathy my nurse kathy sweet kathy because i uh she was so nice i made her a nice card and everything um anyways kathy how long ago was this this was when i was 10 years old 30 years ago um so kathy wheels in this tv and pops in a little VHS and on there, there's this NFL player talking about how he has type one diabetes and like, he hasn't let that like get in his way. And like, you know, that, that spoke to me as a little 10 year old-old Chris.
One, I love football.

Two, up until that moment, I thought my life was over from a standpoint I was never going to be able to eat.

In my mind, I could never eat sugar again.

I was just going to be this weird kid that always had to take injections.

All these different things.

Check out that sweet lizard. Wow.
Dang. That thing is dope.
It's like, come on. He's right here.
He's right here. You're on the corner.
Oh, that is so awesome. Yeah.
So, so yeah, they show me this video and I made a decision right then. I'm like, I will not allow myself ever to make diabetes my excuse, right? If he can do it, I can do it.
And, and the, what I programmed in my mind was, I will never say that I am a diabetic. Like I will never identify as a diabetic.
I have type one diabetes, but I am not a diabetic. And so like that, just that just a little mental shift has helped me.
But like, I know I could use it as an excuse because frankly, if I'm being honest, like it's difficult, it's, it sucks. Like when I, when I'm like dialed in with my diet and then I like have to go and drink pure orange juice, right? Like in the middle of the night, I'm like, crap, dude, I was in keto.
Even like, even like fasting, you can't fast. Yeah.
Like I've, so I have attempted three day fast, three different times, two of the times my blood sugar got too low to be able to finish the fast. Third time I was able to do it.
Right. Like like things.
And again, I even hate talking about this because I don't want it to ever appear to limit limit me. But if I'm if I'm being frankly honest, there's like things that I have to deal with that normal human beings don't, don't have to like, like sometimes I, I yearn to be like, Daryl just completed a five day water fast.
And I'm just like, man, I really wish that all I had to do was make a decision because it's not just making a decision. I have to decide.
And then I have to freaking monitor this and make all kinds of crazy adjustments and like limiting my exercise at different times and like, and like just be well aware, like when to make sure my insulin isn't overproducing and just all the, all these things. And so, but again, I think, I think the coolest thing about type one diabetes is really, it's been a superpower because it's taught me discipline that I don't think I could have ever learned just from normal life.
And so, um, so yeah, like everybody's in their own battle. Every, everybody is, uh, and so I always try not to overly, like I'm, I'm fairly judgmental from a physical standpoint.
Like I'll look at a 400 pound person and be like, dude, get more discipline. Like, that's what I think same time i gotta i always remind myself like look everybody's in their own personal battle if they're constantly bettering themselves like that's all that matters right like no matter as long as the trajectory is in the right way then and when they slide back a little bit rebound and get back up well it's interesting because you always say like physical first um And I think that's because that's where you've had to be right i don't disagree with it i think i think you're correct for a lot of people getting your physical health dialed in can impact the rest of your life in a big way um i mean dude it's the only way we experience life right like like i can't feel the spirit if i am just like shoving myself full of donuts and weigh 400 pounds yeah but you're talking about like people are like maybe overweight but still you can be like skinny or you can you know i mean so i i think but but even but even then i i guess what i would say to that like contrary or a different perspective would be like i think if you don't have your values lined up right it's like you could be the fittest person in the world but completely unhappy because the actions you take right right so it's obviously a balance of all those things um and and i see i can see it from every different direction right first case of uh type 1 diabetes was just cured with stem cell therapy for the first time.
Did you see that? Is that true? What'd you say? I saw the article. With stem cells? Yeah, stem cells cured type one diabetes.
Like here's where I'm at. I wanna believe it.
But like. Probably not.
I would say the one downfall of our capitalistic society is health right like um it's it's the unfortunate byproduct of capitalism is that there's a lot of people make a lot of money on hype on illness yeah right like insulin blood sugar strips insulin pumps like all this stuff it takes to take care of diabetes or cancer or anything else. Dude, those are a lot of people that are going to lose their livelihood if you find a cure.
And, and so it's the, like I said, the unfortunate by-product. And the, although like, I want to believe that this has happened.
I hope it does. Will it ever be made available to me or how? I don't right probably outside of the u.s maybe robert kennedy will figure it out rfk rfk jr let's go cure it yeah oh it is it is one of those but i will say my biggest pet peeve don't ever call me a type 2 diabetic i always forget i know i'm gonna say the wrong one and i think that's why i always end up saying the wrong one uh and the reason why is they should not be in the same ballpark type 2 is self-inflicted and they can cure themselves they literally all they have to do is diet and exercise and they're cured there is no cure to type 1 diabetes except for hopefully stem cells so cool yeah good stuff well dude uh what's next what's next for you what are you working on in what domain any just all the domains what are you what are you working on um just getting to the next level i think that getting uh getting to a certain height and then getting you then getting to the point where you have to break through a glass ceiling, I think that's kind of where I'm at.
What motivates you? Progression. Realizing that to get to the next level, I have to become more.
Um, but also, yeah, what motivates me is opportunity. I want, I want more opportunity.
I feel like I feel that restriction of that glass ceiling, which is just a by-product of me and, and, um, to get to the next level, I need to become more and, and learn how to develop myself to the next stage. So yeah, more freedom.
Darrell, what's, what's next for you? What's next for me? What are you, what are you working on right now? Man. So working on, I think there's a lot of stuff that's, that's just coming that's happening.
I think it's just stepping into the businesses that are happening, stepping into the, the, my kids are getting older. So stepping into to the the businesses that are happening stepping into the the my kids are getting older so stepping into like the different activities and stuff going on there dude that's that's a crazy topic in and of itself like both of us have seniors you have a 14 year old like yikes there's that there's closer to being a grandpa than i am to being a newborn father.
Like, that's wild. Yeah.
That's wild. How old is your oldest? 17.
She turns 18 here in like three weeks. Wow.
Yeah, and she graduates next month. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah, yeah. Wild.
Yeah. And my youngest is six.
So, like, yeah. Okay.
Within the next six years, we could definitely Grandpa Lee here. Crazy.
Grandpa Lee. I think there's kind of two sayings that I always like to live by.
And it's one is like, how can it get better than this? Realizing like, dude, life is really good. There's so many blessings there, but it can even get better.
Right? And just being excited for like what that could look like. And then this saying- Do you think in 10 years, you're going to look back at your time right now and be like, oh was the glory day that was the golden age or do you feel like 10 years from now i think it'll always get better like i i do think there is that that meant you'll always look back and realize holy cow that was way better than i thought it was yeah i think we do that initially because we're not tied into these negative emotions that really don't serve us yeah and and frankly if it doesn't get better than this, like why? Why even try, right? Like I think it will always like life is about progression, creation, value, right? I'll actually give you an example of one of those.
So there's this place called Narnia and it's a local place here where it's got all these different waterfalls. And we were there before we had this property.
And I remember it's a saying saying in our family our girls always say it whenever we're in like a really cool place or experience or doing something awesome it's how can it get better than this someone will say it yeah and i remember one of my girls saying it there at the waterfall place i'm like i think i set out your property today but i walked around i remember saying i was like how could it get better than this but like but i but i think the the terminology isn't like, wow, this is the best it can be. It's like, how do I make sure that I don't limit myself to only this? Right.
Like being able to, because I think one of the biggest self-destructive characteristics that any of us have is we self-destruct. Right.
Like hit a we hit a ceiling and we're like i'm not worthy of that or i i only should have that right and so then we never get through that versus like okay i've gotten here okay and i'm loving this i'm really enjoying this this is a freaking phenomenon i mean look at this this waterfall like how can it like so i remember i remember saying what can i do to make it even better than this yeah and i remember saying that and then coming here be like ah that's i remember that time that's how and now i'm here i'm like how can it get better than this and i've had experiences with people here and that's how it's gotten better and so like i just know like life will continue to unfold as long as i'm excited and expecting things to be even better yeah and then the last the last piece uh or saying that i like to live by is just trust in the unknown and i learned that uh through meditation conference but trust the unknown trust in the unknown yeah and so basically what that looks like is like instead of trying to understand how everything's going to play out trust that the unknown. Trust in the unknown.
Yeah. And so basically what that looks like is like, instead of trying to understand how everything's going to play out, trust that the unknown, what you don't know how it's going to play out, like the future is going to be way better than you could imagine.
So instead of trying to imagine the future, realize it's going to be even better than that. It's because we create so much anxiety, like trying to predict the future, right yeah like oh like this should be happening or what's how's this going to impact me right and you know obviously we've had a lot of professional experiences in which this happened right like early on with our business getting a million dollar fine from the state right like like how do you like if we just ponder on this and dwell on this, it's like, dude, we're done.
It eats you over. We're screwed instead of like, hey, trust the unknown.
Somehow it's going to work out. I'm just going to keep putting a step one step in front of the other.
And eventually, as long as as all as long as I'm living in the present, right, living in the present and doing my very best, the unknown will take care of itself. I'll give you an example because I think this is so important.
I remember being in Cabo and I had a phone call with a couple employees, high level management, and there was some massive tension. And I remember before I got on the phone call because I was kind of stressing out about it, I caught myself.
I said, you know what? Trust in the unknown. This is just a process that everyone involved has to go through and at the end of it everyone will end up in a situation way better than we currently are and so i just walked in with that attitude and i was like good there was nothing that could shake me in that conversation i no matter how how mad or whatever but i was in a situation i was in an emotional state where i can handle anything yeah dude i think i think that second the first one's awesome right like how can i get better in this i think that's just fun to dream that way yeah but the second one i think is like one of the most powerful things that you can tell yourself in any situation relationships business spiritually right like i just gotta like breathe yeah trust in the unknown Even like my wife, right? Like I just got to like breathe, trust in the unknown.
Even like, uh, even like my wife, right? Like I always want my relationship to improve and get better. And you know, one thing about relationships are two people are involved and they're always changing.
And so like the relationship has to change. Right.
And, and as we get older, it's like, we want our relationship to be even better and better. And sometimes there's struggles and sometimes it gets really, really good.
And so we're always trying to like level up. But even Even with that, it's like we want our relationship to be even better and better and sometimes there's struggles and sometimes it gets really really good and so we're always trying to like level up but even with that it's like uh I just trust like it's going to be awesome and so I walk into my relationship knowing that I'm going to experience even better days in our relationship and I just know it's going to come at some point I don't put a timeline on it I don't put expectation of how it's going to look.
I just walk in knowing it's going to continue to get better. Do you feel like trust is in opposition of control? Because I feel like part of that means we have to let go of control and realize that in some ways we really don't have control of an outcome, but it's- We can influence it.
We can impact it. But yeah, like, is there a facade of control that we, that we probably have? Definitely a facade.
Yeah. Dude.
And in less than control, it's like more like control the response. Right.
Like I love Urban Meyer, his, his little equation E plus R equals O. Have you heard that one? No.
So it comes from his book Above the Line, which is absolutely phenomenal. And so it stands for event plus response equals outcome.
And essentially he says, if you want to impact and control the outcome, you just have to learn how to control the response. You're never going to be able to control the event.
Events happen. And it's this all, it's the same mentality, right? Like events happen, like employees are outraged.
Uh, somebody's quitting a million dollar fine, whatever, whatever, right? This is an event, literally no control over it, right? Like you may have been able to impact it before, but it's already happened. Here it is.
Nothing's changing it. And so it's okay.
This is the event. How am I going to respond if I want this outcome? And so the thing he always talks about is like, okay, understand what the outcome you want and, and say, if I wanted this outcome, how would I respond to this situation? Press pause.
How would I respond in this situation to it? So like bringing a relationship, right? Like the outcome I want in my relationship with my wife is I want an eternal companion that's always with me. We're strong.
We love each other. We laugh together.
We have a good time, right? Like all the different things, right? That's the outcome I always desire. Events.
Wife come up to me and says yo I want a divorce like that hasn't happened andrea i love you uh but say that was the event right in that moment if i can press pause and realize okay what outcome do i want how would i respond to that situation right versus like i'm not clear on the outcome i want and i'm not willing to press pause that when that event happens like i just like react and respond in a way that's like what what are you talking about like i thought things were good what you know that's like versus like hey babe clearly i've done something wrong Like I, if you are feeling this way,

like that's blindsided me a little bit here.

I'm committed to,

to being your number one.

I want this.

Like what,

how can we work on this?

Right. Like that's a completely different response.

And it's same in business,

right?

Like I want to go in.

I want to sell my business for a hundred million dollars. I get a million dollar fine and we have 10 grand in the bank account right how am i going to respond to this particular situation if that's the outcome that i desire right versus you know and so it's just it's just constantly like keeping your eternal i guess you'd say like future perspective of outcome.
And so and not necessarily controlling it, but more just controlling like the response and and hoping for a better future. It's like think of the person who already received the 10 million dollar whatever.
Right. Now, take him and put him in that situation.
How would he respond? I think that's the best way to look at it. Right.
Yeah. I look at it like uh in relationships like my wife thinks i'm the coolest person in the world 10 out of 10 everything's like perfect how do i respond to her right and then if i always treat her like that that's how she shows up and so i think it's important that that we we show up like we want the opportunities or the people to show up yeah Yeah.
One of the really fascinating and interesting books I listened to this year was

called Imagine the God of Heaven.

And it's a lot of people that have had near-death experiences that had out-of-body

experiences, saw their life in review.

And one of the interesting ones was this lady who talked about,

she saw her life and all the choices that she made were like ripples in a pond.

It had all these effects. And she saw that her life had a path there was something for her to learn and all the decisions she made in her life were like these uh rose compasses that kind of led but they all ended up leading to the same spot but it didn't really matter how she got there and she just realized that um that she no matter what she did there was something in her life that she needed to go through to learn.
And that there really wasn't any avoiding it. And so she could have done all these different avenues in her life and choices, but they all would have led her through this path where she would have had to learn and grow and there was just no avoiding it.
And I think that's part of, um, letting go of control is realizing like, Hey, God has a plan. Right.
And all that you can do is be the best version of yourself and accept that, like whatever you can do and, and whatever you're blessed to receive is, is an except whatever that path looks like versus trying to, you know, shape that path ourself and and i uh what i would interpret that as is like i think i think where control goes wrong is when we try to control others rather than control ourselves yeah right like i think because because what you're saying is like i just need to control being my best version and and understand that others are going to be the way they are and things are going to happen for a reason. Right.
And I think where frustration happens in regards to control is like when I like want, like I want to take away your choice or somebody else's and like get this perfect scenario that I have imagined up in my mind. Yeah.
Yep. I guess.
And then one, one other story in that book is about this woman who was in this horrific situation. Um, you know, extreme fear, extreme anxiety.
Um, she's in a terrible situation, has this near death experience, looks back at her, her current circumstance and sees her life in review. And her mindset is just like, it's all all okay because she sees what's next which is this amazing like glory beyond description and um she ends up coming obviously back into her body and waking up in that situation and her her peace and her calm that she felt in that circumstance even though nothing had changed she was still back in this exact same horrific she just knew that in the end it's all okay it's like her perspective changed to an eternal view where it was like yeah like what happens right now it doesn't matter because this is what's next and you know she ended up getting out of the situation all worked out but just that perspective that what really matters is what's next after this life.
And whatever happens here is not a big deal. I love it.
Well, everybody, Tyler, appreciate you being on the show. It was a lot of fun.
Just having a good conversation about everything. Yeah, man.
Appreciate you guys. Yeah.
Look forward to spending the next few days here in Hawaii together. It's going to be a good time.

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