#134: Hawaii House from “The Bachelorette” Filled with 9 Figure Companies

Speaker 1 People are mentally weak.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, there's just a lot of weakness bred in our society. And maybe that's because of the luxuries we have.
But, like, we need mental toughness.

Speaker 1 Physically, you can do so much more than you think you can.

Speaker 2 Right. Nobody knows what I'm capable of.
Nobody's seen me in secret. Right.
That's where I have to, like, win is the secret battles and just be like, okay, what is Chris capable of?

Speaker 2 What am I up against? Now, I know I'm capable of more. And I think that's where all of us have to get to is like understand, like what does God know that I'm capable of doing?

Speaker 3 Letting go of control is realizing, like, hey, God has a plan, right? And all that you can do is be the best version of yourself.

Speaker 3 Accept that whatever you can do and whatever you're blessed to receive is and accept whatever that path looks like versus trying to you know shape that path ourselves.

Speaker 2 Yo, so we are coming from the waterfall house here in Toto.

Speaker 2 We got Mr. Tyler Tyler McAllister here.
Welcome, welcome, welcome. Thank you.
Dude, excited. So we're going to be spending the next three days here at a mastermind.

Speaker 2 A lot of you guys have heard us talk about our focus on masterminds and like getting together, solving problems, both personal, professional, everything like that.

Speaker 2 And the cool thing is,

Speaker 2 like, this spot, I can say, is my favorite spot in the world for it.

Speaker 2 So So

Speaker 2 I want to hear, Tyler, you just got here. It's the first time seeing it.

Speaker 2 Tell us what your initial reaction to seeing this place was.

Speaker 3 So if I could make up the perfect vacation home in Hawaii with land,

Speaker 2 waterfall, river, house, like...

Speaker 3 This is it in real life right here. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's pretty amazing. I'm not even sure I could even imagine it up, right? Oh, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 It's incredible. When you say a king lived here and you walk on the property, you're like, this is fit for a king.

Speaker 1 The location itself is insane.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I wish the cameras could do it justice.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you got to see it with your own eyes.

Speaker 2 Like, when I when I share it on social media or the pictures, I'm just like, that's, that's not it. Yeah, like, I'm not sure.
I think it's, I'm like, that looks cool, but like, it's, it's different.

Speaker 1 I think there's more to it, too. It's like what you see, but it's also what you feel.
This place has got a feeling to it that I

Speaker 1 love. Like, when I walk in here i'm like wow the magic's here like you feel it um

Speaker 1 there was a a guy who who helps manage the property brought um an elder from the island here

Speaker 1 and he said when he came up on the property he started weeping what i didn't know the story yeah and he said he just felt like this was a very like sacred area sacred space yeah and so uh it's cool when you're here you feel good it feels i call it the tree house because you're like up high you got the river down below and you got these trees, massive trees all around you that are

Speaker 1 kind of encompassing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the nature is incredible here. The plants, we had some rain today, the grass is beautiful,

Speaker 2 local tropical fruit and all of this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just the whole house embodies it.

Speaker 2 The experience. You know, I think it's interesting because a lot of people listening to this or watching this, they're involved in business of some sort, right? They're either got an idea,

Speaker 2 they're trying to build a business, start a business, whatever else. And a lot of times, right, like we focus on just the numbers.
For me,

Speaker 2 my career, like when I take time away from the business and I go to places like this, for example,

Speaker 2 and really like focus from a 30,000-foot view on my life, on my business, on everything else, it's like, There's something magical about like removing yourself from being in nature, like kind of like reflecting on like all the goodness that you have and being able to go and focus.

Speaker 2 And like for me, that's really helped in my professional career, just like having these reset type moments.

Speaker 2 And that's like when I saw this place, when the guy was like, hey, yo, this is about to hit the market.

Speaker 2 And he sent the pictures, both me and Daryl like called each other up, like, dude, do you see that? There's no way that's real.

Speaker 2 There's no way that's real. And so, but we felt drawn to this for like more ways than one.
It wasn't just like a good investment or a beautiful property.

Speaker 2 It was like something like almost like spiritual, a place to like, like I said, kind of detach, focus in, revert back.

Speaker 1 I think too, like, when you're when you're having success, when you're trying to have success, when you're doing things, like, you got to have more than just like numbers, right?

Speaker 1 It's like, I want to make a million dollars this year. It's like, why, right? And it's like, how do you make your life fun? How do you make it exciting? How do you make this life like meaningful?

Speaker 2 um and it's things like this it's places like this where you get to experience something that kind of just takes you somewhere special and i think that's what this place represents for me it's like having fun being in nature um it's it's a special place so i'm interested to know from like both of you guys like what your guys's personal development journey has been both business personal like like what has been important to you that is no longer important to you like um how you've learned, grow, develop, right?

Speaker 2 Like what, go ahead.

Speaker 1 I love the story. Like

Speaker 1 in second grade,

Speaker 1 I was always going out to this like group of like eight of us. And I remember going out there and I was like, why are we coming out of the classroom? I didn't get it.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, you guys don't know how to read. So we're teaching how to read.
And that stuck with me. And I remember graduating college still in my mind thinking, I don't know how to read.

Speaker 1 And I can remember after graduating from college, Uh, Chris was like, Hey, dude, let's read this book. I'm like, Okay, cool.
What is it? It was Rich Dad, Poor Dad.

Speaker 1 And I remember thinking, Man, I don't read very well, so I'm gonna try to read this book, finish it before Chris can. Remember that? So, I read this book, and I got done with it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, dude, I love that. That was so cool.
So then it was like, let's read another book. And we kept reading books.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden, it got into just so do you think that was like your first, like, where, like, hey, I'm working on myself outside of what the school system told me to do?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I honestly don't think I really understood. I didn't understand entrepreneurship.
I didn't understand a lot of things, but I was super ambitious.

Speaker 1 And I felt like when I started reading books, it was elevating me to think differently than I had ever thought before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I had been taught just work really, really hard and like just work hard. Like, just work hard.

Speaker 2 Don't read. Don't read.

Speaker 2 It wasn't don't read. It was just work hard.

Speaker 1 And there wasn't really this idea that

Speaker 1 to be creative, I guess.

Speaker 2 What about you Tyler what's like your journey been in just like developing obviously you're running a very successful business now you're building a real cool thing down in Arizona like what is what has been your path to get there

Speaker 3 mentorship is really big for me I feel like I learn really well through others I'm very curious I ask a lot of questions and

Speaker 3 I've always been really drawn to people around me that have had that are further down the road and have gotten to where I want to get to.

Speaker 3 And I love earning time with these people to kind of mine what the journey is like.

Speaker 3 Like if I can forecast and kind of see a little bit of what that looks like and help me navigate through that a little bit more, I feel like it gives me some of the wisdom of not having to go through so many struggles on my own and

Speaker 3 kind of help me adapt the mindset of what it takes to get there. So that's been really helpful.

Speaker 3 And I have a 30-minute commute to and from work every day. And so I've learned I really enjoy Audible.
Whenever I'm driving, I can pound through a whole bunch of books.

Speaker 2 What's been your favorite one recently?

Speaker 3 Profit First.

Speaker 2 Prophet First? Yeah. Nice.

Speaker 2 Who's the author of that?

Speaker 3 I don't remember. Jared, do you remember? Michael Something.

Speaker 1 Michael Something. Michael Something.

Speaker 3 His last name's tough.

Speaker 3 So I really liked that one. And then Patrick Bett Davids, Your Next Five Moves.
That was a great one. Solid.

Speaker 2 I haven't read that one. PBD's obviously stud, right? Like,

Speaker 2 he's got a lot of really good things. He was very political in this last election, which was fun to see.

Speaker 2 But, yeah, no, that's cool. That's cool.
You know, it's interesting. You said, like, you like to learn from mentors.
Were you always that way?

Speaker 3 I would say yes, because

Speaker 3 my path in the door-to-door industry, I felt like was successful because I really latched on to leaders and not a pay scale and not a company.

Speaker 3 I latched on to the leaders that I felt like, hey, this is someone who's creating a life and a future that I would like to have and I want to follow.

Speaker 3 And so I just highly valued the people that I was allowing to influence me. And that was my focus more so than,

Speaker 3 you know, an individual pay structure or the company title. And that got me really far in life because I learned what good leadership looked like.

Speaker 3 I learned what culture was like and the things that I wanted to create in my own life. I was getting first-hand education.
And so that mentorship became an anchor in my life.

Speaker 3 And I was very different than my father. My dad was a very brilliant guy,

Speaker 3 mechanical engineer,

Speaker 3 very practical, A-type personality. And I was very creative.
And so, you know, my dad hammered through school. He kept all of his college books.
He would still read them. Like,

Speaker 1 he was just,

Speaker 2 I always thought I'd do that. And I kept, I think I still have them, but like, I don't think I've I've cracked them.
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can remember buying every college book I bought. I'm like, I'm going to read this one.

Speaker 2 Well, I spent $300 on this. So, and I forgot to sell it back.

Speaker 2 So my dad. Good for him.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, and my dad's advice was like stay in school and get a job. But my path led me to entrepreneurship.
And so I had to really latch on to people that understood that world.

Speaker 3 And I had to learn it through, you know, just firsthand.

Speaker 2 Dude, good for you because, you know,

Speaker 2 it took me falling flat on my face to like

Speaker 2 start asking for help right like when i was in my 20s i loved to act like i knew what was going on right like and i was pretty intelligent like i had i i was i did pretty good for not knowing anything right like or and i definitely thought i knew everything right like i was i was too good

Speaker 2 for education or mentors or asking for help and like dude it I mean it took a toll on me and like I just love to like act as if I had it figured out and then just go to try to like like think through it on my own and then go and do it and like that that ultimately

Speaker 2 like I wish I would have made the shift sooner right

Speaker 2 but again

Speaker 2 the the failure that I experienced because I was such an arrogant prick like is probably the best thing that could ever happen to me where it like humbled me and put me in a position where like, man, I need, I need some help.

Speaker 2 I need, I need to go and learn from others. Kind of like Daryl talked about, like, the beginning of our path was like, all right, let's read.

Speaker 2 Let's read from these mentors that we don't personally know so they don't have to see us asking for help.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 And so we kind of read books. And then we went to a couple conferences, but then we still tried to figure it out on our own.
And we were doing all these dumb little businesses that, like,

Speaker 2 we had no idea what we were doing.

Speaker 1 I think, too, the whole concept of, like, having a coach or paying someone or going to a a seminar, that seems so

Speaker 4 pokey.

Speaker 1 Uncomfortable. Like, why would I pay all this money?

Speaker 1 You know? Yet I would go to school and pay

Speaker 1 $1,500 in books that I never read. Right.
Isn't that funny?

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's it's way more comfortable if society accepts it, right? Yeah.
Ever encourages it. And I think, uh,

Speaker 2 yeah, like, I, the way I looked at, like, the self-development world was, like, a little hokey, like, initially.

Speaker 1 I mean, even if you talk to an average person who doesn't read any of those books, if they have,

Speaker 1 if they never read those books and you talk about self-development, it's like, it's kind of like a woo-woo thing. Right.
It's like, oh, yes, help yourself. Like, it's just a weird

Speaker 1 mentality. Yeah, self-help but yet it's like it's powerful like anyone who's helped themselves

Speaker 2 if you help yourself if you figure out how to help yourself like you'll you know it's funny that they even call it self-help because it's not right like you're you're helping yourself by having others help you correct right uh because whether it's an author or a mentor or a coach or something else so so chris who's one of your like who's who's one of your top mentors i'd say for sure the guy that i learned from the most from more of a distant not like

Speaker 2 a lot of personal interaction was todd peterson yeah um

Speaker 2 and you know i i actually talked about this on a uh

Speaker 2 i was doing like a little training for a bunch of uh multi-level marketing people this last week they brought me on as a guest and i talked about how like Before I worked for Todd, when I was running my businesses, I hated Todd.

Speaker 2 Everything about him, he felt like he was an arrogant prick, thought like, you know, just

Speaker 2 whatever.

Speaker 2 But then I realized the reason I hated him is because he did it right and I didn't. Yeah.
You know, and

Speaker 2 so then I shifted my mindset when I ultimately, you know, I talk about like there was a four and a half year period where I worked for three different businesses. that I call my paid education.

Speaker 2 And like I was very intentional from learning from these guys. And Todd just taught me so much by the way that the way he built his empire, right?

Speaker 2 Like building it with transparency and culture and like just so much, like, even the way he structured his pay scales.

Speaker 2 And it was just like very transparent across the board of like, this is what we pay if you want to get to the next level. These are the X, Y, and Z.
There's no secrets. There's no nothing.

Speaker 1 It was cool to see. I thought the respect of those around him for Todd was immense.
And the way he treated everybody, like he treated everyone like you were the only person he was talking to.

Speaker 1 I even had him, one time I was talking with him, it was just me and my daughter. And just he like gave us his full attention.
He had someone come to him.

Speaker 1 He told him to hold on and just like finish talking to us. And

Speaker 1 it was one of the first times I've...

Speaker 1 It was just me, him, and my daughter. And it was just like the amount of respect he gives people, that's why he gets so much respect back.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So Todd, you know, I didn't, and the way I look at it with mentors, you got to pay them in one way or another.

Speaker 2 You either pay by working for them or you pay by getting in the room with them, right, with time, energy, or money. And so Todd,

Speaker 2 I paid for by working for him, right? And kind of studying him from abroad, which...

Speaker 2 You know, I knew having owned a home security business beforehand exactly what the margins were, what he was making on my production and everything else but like that was like such an incredible opportunity or the the the cost of of of learning from him uh it was just uh yeah work it working with him in his in his corner so that was uh that was a that was a cool pivotal part of my career and and like and todd has continued to be just a cool person to to learn from and study from from afar and i've had you know a handful of conversations with him since i've not worked with him and like like you said i think that that was like at an investor conference, right?

Speaker 2 When you had that conversation with you and his daughter. But yeah,

Speaker 2 how about you?

Speaker 1 One person I love is

Speaker 1 Jeff Scholz. And Chris, you know him, but he was a guy that I was like...

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 when I left home for college, my dad, he was like, told me something. He's like, I want you to leave and you're not welcome to come back.

Speaker 1 to live back home or you come visit but just like can't come back home and live so when i left for college, I decided to go on a mission. I had some time I had to figure out what to do with.

Speaker 1 I was trying to figure out who do I know that's rich. And my sister, from my sister, I heard things about this guy, Jeff.
I'm like trying to figure out how to work for him.

Speaker 1 But he was like, go to work for him. And at the time, like, money was like the most scarce thing in the world.
Like, and so to be around someone who, in my perception, had a lot of money,

Speaker 1 he treated, he always treated people better than he, like, money was like the secondary thing and it was good for me to see that because I just I hadn't been around someone who had money

Speaker 1 And he set an example for me that I think has impacted me the rest of my life of like never put money over people well I remember one of you the lessons that you shared from like just that time of like

Speaker 2 one

Speaker 2 never allow a meal not to be on just one card, right? Like whenever you go to eat, one person always pays and it should almost always be you, right?

Speaker 2 Like that, that's, I know that you learned that lesson from Jeff, and like, he would, he would take you guys to eat all the time, all the time, and do the right.

Speaker 2 And, and just, uh, it was cool because we had a chance to go to lunch with him just the other day and right, buy him lunch, which, yeah, which was cool.

Speaker 2 Because I know earlier in our careers, he was he pulled his wallet out too, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 But, uh, but no, Jeff, Jeff was a

Speaker 2 Jeff's a special human in my book because he's actually, besides you, the only person that believed in me like after my bankruptcy which which was really cool to see like he saw how hungry we were and everything else and was willing to put money on the line for somebody that literally had just filed bankruptcy which was crazy and so he helped uh he helped us uh build our our second alarm company from because we didn't we didn't want to sell contracts anymore we wanted the in-house accounts And so he put a fund together for us that we could draw on to essentially keep those accounts in-house.

Speaker 2 And that was just a really powerful lesson for me, like

Speaker 2 believe in people, right? Like, not

Speaker 2 like.

Speaker 1 I mean, to be honest with Jeff, he gave me so many different loans. Like, I needed one for a car.
I didn't have like credit. So he gave me money for that.
Like, he would just,

Speaker 1 and he didn't even, like,

Speaker 1 he didn't have any obligation to as well. But he was a guy that was always there to help.
And, like, right.

Speaker 2 You guys weren't even like really family. Like, he was like this extended in-law of something else, right? Like,

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 2 he's definitely a cool, like, early stage mentor.

Speaker 1 So, let me ask you people. Let me ask you this, guys.
So, like, what, so I know, like, like business, we learn a lot about business. We have to, right?

Speaker 1 Things are always changing in business and stuff. What about your other aspects of life, like your health, relationships,

Speaker 1 spirituality? Like, what are like some mentors, or what, what how are you developing there? Like, what are the things you use or tools, Tyler?

Speaker 1 Is there anything in those categories that you're working on?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm really blessed.

Speaker 3 I had an awesome father who was really good at showing love and spending time and

Speaker 3 showing how to really create connection as a father. And so that was really instilled in me.
I knew I had a dad that always would come home, be excited to see me,

Speaker 3 give me a big hug, and was always there to support me in anything I was doing. And so,

Speaker 3 you know, I feel like that's an attribute that I've been able to carry on for my dad. When I come home, I'm good at being with my kids, and

Speaker 3 I care a lot about that connection and that time that we have together because I know how quick they're going to grow up. And so

Speaker 3 that's been a huge influence on me in my life and the impact of having a good father in the home and my parents having a good relationship and just feeling like family and home is the best place you could ever want to be.

Speaker 3 And I want to make sure I perpetuate that with my kids. And so when you talk about money and having fun and all that, like to me, that's not getting on the golf course or, you know, running away.

Speaker 3 It's creating opportunities to connect my kids and my family where I can really invest my time and experiences into them. So for me, I'd say that's been my number one influence there.

Speaker 3 And then obviously,

Speaker 3 you know, spiritually,

Speaker 3 making sure that Christ is centered in my life. I feel like.

Speaker 3 the blessings that I've been given in my life, I don't feel like are the merit of my own

Speaker 3 works. I feel like

Speaker 3 I need to always stay humble and grateful and recognize the blessings that God's given me because

Speaker 3 I have an abundance of what the Lord has given me, and I don't want to take that for granted. So,

Speaker 2 making sure I'm

Speaker 2 standing centered.

Speaker 1 Amen. That's awesome.
Hallelujah. What about you, Chris?

Speaker 2 Dude, you know, it's interesting. You say to like, okay, this business, whatever.
So, I've never really idolized somebody in business unless they line up with all the other aspects that I that I want.

Speaker 2 I know, like, there's been a few, I guess you could call them mentors or people that I'm like, okay, I want to learn this one thing from them, but I don't want to emulate them, right?

Speaker 2 Like, I'll give you an example. Grant, I love you, but

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 2 there's only a few aspects about Grant Cardone in the past. He's starting to line up some things now, right? He's starting to get his family and different things like that in order, which I respect.

Speaker 2 But like, you know, there's like just like this action part of him that I'm like, I want to learn that, but I don't necessarily want to put him in my mentor bucket, right?

Speaker 2 So like for me, when I'm, when I'm looking at people that I want to impact me in business, like really, it's like, okay, do they check all the boxes physically, economically, associations, and their spirituality, right?

Speaker 2 Like, are they aligned? And so like, when I look at like a guy like Todd, right, like I've, I've appreciated one, the guy's kept the same wife and has kids and respectable kids.

Speaker 1 And he talks really highly about her. Right.

Speaker 2 Talks highly about his kids, keeps his family and everything.

Speaker 2 Spiritually, yeah, like he's, I, I, you know, I'm sure he's not perfect, but he creates a lot of the same alignment that I want, which, which I'm like, okay, I respect that.

Speaker 2 Physically, guy works out, takes care of his body, everything like that. And so, like, for me.

Speaker 2 Like that that's the mentor I've always tried to be as well, right? Like, if I can, if I want to emulate this guy, I want to be the person that people can emulate.

Speaker 2 Like, I'm not perfect in any of those categories, right? But, like, for me,

Speaker 2 that's the thing

Speaker 2 I'm always looking for. I think it's impossible to fully separate them out

Speaker 2 from a standpoint.

Speaker 2 Like, I think if somebody gets it physically and understands the science of discipline and how a body works and everything else, naturally, nine times out of 10, they're going to apply it in these other areas of their life.

Speaker 2 And if they're not, there's probably something going on here that they're cheating their way to the top. Yeah.
And so, so

Speaker 2 if you, if you don't cheat, chances are those principles are falling over into other areas. Yeah.
Now, I understand there's other aspects to it, right?

Speaker 2 Like you can't always have relationships aren't one-sided. For me,

Speaker 2 that's what I'm looking for. And a lot of it, like,

Speaker 2 is a level of education. Like, my dad,

Speaker 2 he may have not been the best financially, but he was his best financially, right? Like, my dad grew up in a, in a white, like, a very, like, his dad was an alcoholic.

Speaker 2 Nobody in his family had ever stayed married, didn't have the gospel of Jesus Christ, right? Like, and my dad took that, went to school, got a good job, did everything society told him.

Speaker 2 He was extremely disciplined, invested half of his paycheck into his retirement, right? Like, did all the things. So, even though my dad isn't like a perfect like entrepreneur financially, he he got

Speaker 2 like he's a great example of those things, which also showed up in his physical life, his relationships, everything like that.

Speaker 1 You know, I think like, I think if someone's struggling,

Speaker 1 I think if someone's struggling

Speaker 1 like in their business or maybe in their relationship or maybe in their health, they should look at something else. that they're they're also avoiding and start working on that.

Speaker 1 In other words, let's say I'm struggling financially. I should look at my health and figure out how to optimize my health.

Speaker 1 If I'm struggling in my relationship, I should figure out how to like figure out another aspect of my life that I can improve that's not so

Speaker 1 maybe heavy or overcomplicated and fix that first.

Speaker 1 I think a lot of times people get so stuck on the one thing when, like you said, these principles overlap amongst themselves.

Speaker 1 And so I think if you can like take the pressure off of this is way too complicated to fix my relationship with my in my marriage, it's it's too complicated. I don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 Like, get yourself in a really good spot health-wise. Get yourself in a really good spot spiritually.

Speaker 1 And I think as you start to develop those principles or alignment, I think it will help your relationship.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 one of my first coaches that I paid for, Satemanali, right? I paid him, it was a pretty big check to be in his corner. And

Speaker 2 for me, like September checked all the boxes.

Speaker 2 He wasn't like this multi-multi-millionaire or anything else, but he was doing a lot of things from a financial standpoint that were showing me the right principles.

Speaker 2 But I loved the fact that he put like his fitness and everything. Like he was like cutting down, getting things right.
He talked a lot about like not lying to yourself, right?

Speaker 2 Like, and like, what areas of life

Speaker 2 am I living a lie? What

Speaker 2 What conversations am I avoiding? What,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 all the different things. But, you know, to your point of like going and starting something different that's kind of opposite, I think, I think a lot of times it is our fitness.

Speaker 2 Like, I think, I think fitness can teach you a lot. And I think a lot of that originates by like why God put us on the earth, right? Like, like we're here for a physical experience.

Speaker 2 And if we understand how the body works, and I'm, like I said, no,

Speaker 2 no physical specimen. I wish I was in better shape.

Speaker 2 But like every time I like dial in, do something like very disciplined physically, 99 times out of 100, I have a better relationship with my wife.

Speaker 2 I perform better in business. I

Speaker 2 just all the things like I'm more disciplined in my prayers.

Speaker 2 It's like one of the easiest ways to create a ripple effect is just start chalking up wins on the physical side. And like I said, nine times out of ten, it's going to transfer over.

Speaker 1 So I'm kind of experiencing a transformation physically.

Speaker 1 I feel like the last two years I've learned a lot of stuff from, you know, meditation, Tony Robbins, a lot of these different things.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're showing it off today.

Speaker 1 Jeez, dude. I'm in Hawaii.
Woo! No sun's out, but

Speaker 1 anyways, I remember the beginning of the year, I'm thinking, I've been, I feel like I've gone through this transformation internally.

Speaker 1 I need to like make it external and so I've been like lifting weights really focused on my diet eating a lot better

Speaker 1 and that's been good what's really interesting is um when we were in Boston I went and did that half marathon that was wild and do you guys know about this oh my gosh yeah

Speaker 1 so so I did I don't run I haven't ran at all and I heard these guys were doing a marathon and I'm sitting in class and sitting there all week I'm thinking could I do a half marathon I don't know like 13 miles seems like pretty dang far.

Speaker 2 And so I get a text across the room, hey, dude, we should run a half marathon tomorrow. And I was like, no.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 anytime I have a dumb idea, I try to rope Chris in, but he didn't.

Speaker 2 That's like one of the first times I was like,

Speaker 2 not this time. Usually I'm down for a dumb idea or something crazy.

Speaker 1 But it was interesting.

Speaker 1 I ran it and my goal is to not stop running. And I did.

Speaker 2 And wow.

Speaker 1 It was dude.

Speaker 2 Crazy. Like, Daryl, at least give it some build up here.
Shiz. I mean, guy hadn't run more than a mile in the last five years at one point, one point in time.

Speaker 1 Further, like 10 years.

Speaker 2 Right. Like, literally no training.
He had lifted weights, done no cardio, anything like that. And you ran,

Speaker 2 what was your minute average?

Speaker 1 It was 10, 10.

Speaker 2 Like, runs a 10-minute average across 13 miles.

Speaker 2 Like, dude, I'm not sure I could even run a 10-minute one-mile right now. Dude,

Speaker 2 that's incredible. But it was interesting because you didn't stop running, never stopped.

Speaker 1 Dude, that's that's the hardest part. That was my whole goal.
I was like, I will not stop running.

Speaker 3 It's one thing to finish, but then to have that stamina to keep going.

Speaker 1 So, I had a friend running with me, and while we were running around mile two or three, he says, Daryl, if this isn't your pace, if you're running slower than your pace, you're gonna hate it.

Speaker 1 Like, you make sure you're going your pace, but then don't go faster than your pace because it'll also burn you out.

Speaker 1 So, around mile five, he was like, It was our pace was a little, like, just a little faster than he wanted to go because he runs a lot. And, um, and so he started to like kind of back off.

Speaker 2 Who is this?

Speaker 1 Uh, Fabio. Okay.

Speaker 2 And so then Flavio?

Speaker 1 Flavio. Yeah.
So I decided, you know what? I'm going to stick to my pace. I feel like it's good.
And so around mile five, we separated.

Speaker 1 So the first mile was like forever. I was like, when's this first mile going to end? And then I'm like, all right, mile two,

Speaker 1 mile three. And then they started to kind of click off.
I'm like, just take one mile at a time.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 what was wild was the people on the sideline cheering yeah i was like i would i would say probably not the nicest things about them from an outside perspective but now having ran a race like i finished because of those people yeah like it was just them cheering and stuff that gave me energy to keep going yeah it's being in that whole group of people that like gave me the energy so it was a it was a completely different experience than i had anticipated.

Speaker 2 So what so what did that teach you?

Speaker 2 Like just the whole physical experience of going and doing something that's like just just it doesn't seem like conceivable frankly what were you gonna say what was it like first to finish like i want to hear what that was like so mile 10 yeah is when i started like holy crap this is i can't three more miles that's like

Speaker 1 that was when it got hard yeah 30 more yeah yeah 30 more i'm just saying all these things in my head And I'm like, it was just, it started to get like pretty challenging at that point.

Speaker 1 And I just started talking to myself and saying all kinds of stuff and having these conversations of like, you can do it. Stop thinking about it.
Focus on the little girl on the side of the road.

Speaker 1 Focus on the people up there. You got a drink coming up.
And like, you know, I just, I was just trying to like get myself focused back on where I needed to be.

Speaker 1 But when I finished, man, I was like, well, no, actually, the finish line, I couldn't see where it was, but I could hear it because it kind of like did some turns and it wasn't our normal route.

Speaker 1 And so I was like, dude, I don't know how much longer I can keep going. Like, I was just like, it was really weird.
I had like, I had, I was ready to check out as soon as that finish line came up.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But then I, yeah, finished, crossed the line, finished.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 it was, it was a relief. It was a high.

Speaker 2 That's incredible.

Speaker 1 It was good. But what I, what I got from that, I realized

Speaker 1 we have so much more capacity than we're giving ourselves credit for.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, was it really that hard? No. Like, I did it.
Right.

Speaker 1 And I'm not the, I wouldn't sound like the mentally, the toughest mentally person i know like but you're also not 400 pounds but correct but dude when i was on mile nine i'm pretty sure an 80 year old passed me one

Speaker 1 and when i was on mile

Speaker 1 10 this dude that was probably twice as much weighed twice as much as me passed me i'm like oh dang you know like focus on your race don't focus on them but um

Speaker 1 Do we, we have so much in us. Yeah.
You know, we talk about being tired. We talk about being frustrated.
We talk about being angry. Like, I do believe those are all choices.

Speaker 1 Those are all like patterns that we've just programmed into ourselves. And I think there's so much work.

Speaker 2 Again, I think there's very little that can teach you that besides physical activity. Right.
Like,

Speaker 2 you don't necessarily learn that when you're like, the closest to that would maybe be knocking doors, right? Like, one more door or whatever else. But, like, very few other things in your life,

Speaker 2 do you get to that mental exertion where it's like,

Speaker 2 dude, I'm not sure I can keep going. I'm not sure like what I'm capable of or whatnot, right? Like we live in such a plush society, right? Like air conditioning everywhere.

Speaker 2 I mean, we live better than kings did 200 years ago.

Speaker 1 I love, I don't know where you got this saying, but you've said this for years. It's

Speaker 1 not what I'm mentally capable of doing, but what I'm physically capable.

Speaker 1 of doing and i say that to myself in the gym all the time yep when i'm struggling like can i do one more I'm like, physically, yes. Mentally, I'm deciding.
Right.

Speaker 1 So I do it. I do one more.
Yeah. And then I do one more after that.
Because it's physically, you can do so much more than you think you can. Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, it's, it's remarkable that, like,

Speaker 2 like in situations where adrenaline kicks in, right? Like, you can lift a car, you can do one more rep, you can run 13 miles with no training. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 2 Like, yeah, the physical limitations are always mentally put on ourselves.

Speaker 1 But let's just talk about the reality. The reality is, is

Speaker 1 people are mentally weak.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, there's just a lot of weakness bred in our society. And maybe it's because of the luxuries we have.
But like, dude, I mean,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 there's some, like, we need mental toughness.

Speaker 2 I think one of the best ways to get my teeth kicked in is like listening to some David Goggins, right?

Speaker 2 You know, like, a little can't hurt hurt me. Like, dude, I remember the first time I

Speaker 2 listened to the Audible Can't Hurt Me. I literally got on my phone and ordered marathon running shoes.
Yeah, I remember. Like, dude, I'm running a marathon.

Speaker 1 I got the text message.

Speaker 2 Hey, Daryl, we're running the marathon.

Speaker 2 But that was, that was old Daryl, where I would, like, try to get him excited about something, and he would never do it. Like,

Speaker 2 so like, it's,

Speaker 2 it's cool to see a new Daryl in the last year, year and a half where he's like, he's up more to like some of the physical challenges that I wanted. Because I've always done stupid physical challenges.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, it's like, oh, I'm going to go do a 60-day juice fast or I'm going to, you know, I don't know, see how long I can stay awake or

Speaker 2 72-hour water fast.

Speaker 1 I was always like, I've always been active. I've always been skinny, but I wouldn't say I've been like optimal health-wise.
Right. And I think that's where I'm like, all right.

Speaker 1 I'm getting older now and I want to be optimal for as long as I can.

Speaker 2 Well, I think the thing that shifted in you as well is like mentally, like, you've been physically active just to be physically active.

Speaker 2 I think you're actually connecting it with like the mentality now, where like you want to do hard things and like kind of prove to yourself that like that's always been me, right?

Speaker 2 Like, and and I like for whatever reason, I haven't ever been able to get you on board with that, right? You're always like, oh, that's stupid. Why would I do that just to do it? Right.

Speaker 2 So, that's that's been a fun transition in our relationship of like, all right, let's let's push the limits let's let's figure out what what we're capable of doing so it's awesome ty what about you where are you at physically like what are some of the challenges you have or what are some of the things you want to change or shift around yeah

Speaker 3 so i want to get my

Speaker 3 eating dialed in to where i know what i'm putting in my body and i understand what my macros and my protein and the calories i i never count that and um i think it would go a long way if i'm focusing a lot more and not like grabbing quick energy food out of the kitchen and just shoving it down the gullet.

Speaker 1 So, what are your worst foods you eat?

Speaker 3 Probably carbs at night. Like, if I just reach for a bagel and cream cheese at nighttime, I'm about to go to sleep.

Speaker 2 That doesn't sit well, you know? Nice.

Speaker 3 But, I mean, that's that's a quick, easy fix. If you don't want to do dinner at night, you're just going to throw down.

Speaker 2 You know, it's guys like you that just really piss me off. They can, like, eat a bagel and cream cheese.

Speaker 2 Like, dude i freaking like went a year without white flour fried foods and sugar and i still got this dang thing man like

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 1 i'll give one one credit to you chris like you have what it's type two type one diabetes type one diabetes i was gonna mix it type two do not call it type two type one diabetes self-inflicted fat people sorry sorry self-inflicted you have type one diabetes and uh you never bring that up as like an issue but i see you always like having to in like your i had to get you something some sugar this morning because your blood sugar was out of whack yep um how do you how do you deal with that because that would be an easy excuse to say well i don't operate like everyone else you know i i and i think that's like the thing i always have to look at is like okay chris versus chris right like

Speaker 2 Because if I allow myself to get outside of that, then I look at a guy like Tyler who's eating cream, cheese, and bagels and like, like, oh, yeah, I'm struggling. It's like, screw you, dude.

Speaker 2 You're looking good, man. Like, if I ate cream, cheese, and bagels, I would be 400 pounds,

Speaker 2 you know. And,

Speaker 2 but I have to, like, remove that thought and just be like, okay, what is Chris capable of? What am I up against? Now, I know I'm capable of more, right?

Speaker 2 And, and so, and I think that's where all of us have to get to: is like that

Speaker 2 understand,

Speaker 2 like, what does God know that I'm capable of doing?

Speaker 2 And because, like, me and him are the only ones that know. Not my wife, not Daryl, not any of my friends, right? Nobody knows what I'm capable of.
Nobody's seen me in secret, right?

Speaker 2 And so, like, that's that's where I have to, like, win is the secret battles. Yeah.
And so, like,

Speaker 2 um,

Speaker 2 you know, I, I made a, I made a really awesome decision.

Speaker 2 I don't know what triggered in my little 10-year-old brain, but uh, I was sitting in the sitting sitting in the hospital when I first got diagnosed with diabetes. And

Speaker 2 this nurse, I still remember her name. Her name was Kathy.

Speaker 2 My nurse Kathy. Sweet Kathy.
Because she was so nice. I made her a nice card and everything.

Speaker 2 Anyways, Kathy. How long ago was this? This is when I was 10 years old, 30 years ago.

Speaker 2 So Kathy wheels in this TV

Speaker 2 and pops in a little VHS.

Speaker 2 And on there, there's this NFL player talking about how he has type 1 diabetes. And like, he hasn't let that get in his way.
And like,

Speaker 2 you know, that spoke to me as a little

Speaker 2 10-year-old Chris. Because, one, I love football, right? Two, up until that moment, I thought my life was over from a standpoint.
I was never going to be able to eat.

Speaker 2 In my mind, I could never eat sugar again.

Speaker 2 I was just going to be this weird kid that always had to take injections, you know, just all these different things. And so, like,

Speaker 2 oh, check out that sweet lizard. Wow, dang.
That thing is dope. Looks like you're

Speaker 2 going to tell. Looks like he's right.
He's right here.

Speaker 2 You're on the corner of St. Green.
Oh, that is so awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 so, yeah, they show me this video, and I made a decision right then. I'm like, I will not allow myself ever to make diabetes my excuse, right? If he can do it, I I can do it.
And

Speaker 2 what I programmed in my mind was, I will never say

Speaker 2 that I am a diabetic. Like I will never identify as a diabetic.
I have type one diabetes, but I am not a diabetic. And so like that just, that just little mental shift has helped me.

Speaker 2 But like, I know I could use it as an excuse because frankly, if I'm being honest, like, it's difficult.

Speaker 2 It's, it sucks like when i when i'm like dialed in with my diet and then i like have to go and drink pure orange juice right like in the middle of the night i'm like crap dude i was in keto even like even like fasting you can't fast yeah like i've i've so i have attempted three-day fasts three different times two of the times My blood sugar got too low to be able to finish the fast.

Speaker 2 Third time, I was able to do it, right? Like

Speaker 2 things,

Speaker 2 and again, I even hate talking about this because like I don't want it to ever appear to limit me.

Speaker 2 But if I'm being frankly honest, there's like things that I have to deal with that normal human beings don't have to.

Speaker 2 Like sometimes I yearn to be like Daryl just completed a five-day water fast and I'm just like, man.

Speaker 2 I really wish that all I had to do was make a decision

Speaker 2 because it's not just making a decision.

Speaker 2 I have to decide and then I have to freaking monitor this and make all kinds of crazy adjustments and like limit in my exercise at different times and like and like just be well aware, like when to make sure my insulin isn't overproducing and just all the all these things.

Speaker 2 And so, but again,

Speaker 2 I think the coolest thing about type 1 diabetes is really it's been a superpower because it's taught me discipline that I don't think I could have ever learned just from normal life. I like it.

Speaker 2 And so,

Speaker 2 so yeah, like everybody's in their own battle, every, everybody is,

Speaker 2 uh,

Speaker 2 and so I always try not to overly like I'm fairly judgmental from a physical standpoint. Like, I'll look at a 400-pound person and be like, dude, get more discipline.
Like, that's what I think.

Speaker 2 Uh, but at the same time, I gotta, I always remind myself, like, look, everybody's in their own personal battle. If they're constantly bettering themselves, like, that's all that matters, right?

Speaker 2 Like, no matter as long as the trajectory is in the right way, then, and when they slide back a little bit, rebound and get back up well it's interesting because you always say like physical first

Speaker 1 and I think that's because that's where you've had to be right I don't disagree with it I think I think you're correct for for a lot of people getting your physical health dialed in can impact the rest of your life in a big way

Speaker 2 I mean dude it's the only way we experience life right like like I can't feel the spirit if I am just like shoving myself full of donuts and weigh 400 pounds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you're talking about like people are like maybe overweight, but still you can be like skinny or you can, you know what I mean? So I think.

Speaker 2 But even then,

Speaker 1 I guess what I would say to that, like contrary or a different perspective, would be like, I think if you don't have your values lined up, right? It's like

Speaker 1 you could be the fittest person in the world, but completely... completely unhappy because the actions you take.
Right. Right.
So it's obviously a balance of all those things.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I could see it from every different direction. Right.

Speaker 2 First case of

Speaker 3 type 1 diabetes was just cured with stem cell therapy for the first time.

Speaker 2 Dude, you know.

Speaker 1 Is that true? What'd you say?

Speaker 2 You know, I saw the article. Yeah, stem cells cured type 1 diabetes.
Like, here's where I'm at. I want to believe it.

Speaker 2 But, like.

Speaker 2 Probably. Yeah, I would say the one downfall of our capitalistic society is health.
Right? Like,

Speaker 2 it's the unfortunate byproduct of capitalism is that there's a lot of people who make a lot of money on

Speaker 2 illness.

Speaker 2 Like insulin, blood sugar strips, insulin pumps, like all the stuff it takes to take care of diabetes or cancer or anything else.

Speaker 2 Dude, those are a lot of people that are going to lose their livelihood if you find a cure. And so it's the, like I said, the unfortunate byproduct.

Speaker 2 And although, like, I want to believe that this has happened, I hope it does. Will it ever be made available to me? Or how, I don't know, right? Probably outside of the U.S.

Speaker 3 Maybe Robert Kennedy will figure it out.

Speaker 2 Scored it. RFK.
RFK Jr., let's go. Cure it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It is. It is one of those.

Speaker 2 But I will say my biggest pet peeve, don't ever call me a type 2 diabetic.

Speaker 2 I always forget.

Speaker 1 I know I'm going to say the wrong one. And I think that's why I always end up saying the wrong one.

Speaker 2 And the reason why is they should not be in in the same ballpark. Type 2 is self-inflicted, and they can cure themselves.

Speaker 2 They literally, all they have to do is diet and exercise, and they're cured. There is no cure to type 1 diabetes except for hopefully stem cells.
So, cool.

Speaker 2 Good stuff. Well, dude,

Speaker 2 what's next?

Speaker 2 What's next for you? What are you working on?

Speaker 3 In what domain?

Speaker 2 Dude, just all the domains. What are you working on?

Speaker 3 Just getting to the next level. i think that

Speaker 3 getting uh

Speaker 2 getting to a certain height

Speaker 3 and then getting you know getting to the point where you have to break through a glass ceiling i think that's kind of where i'm at what motivates you

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 3 progression realizing that to get to the next level i have to become more um but also

Speaker 3 yeah what motivates me is opportunity i want i want more opportunity i I feel like I feel that restriction of that glass ceiling, which is just a byproduct of me. And

Speaker 3 to get to the next level, I need to become more and and learn how to develop myself to the next stage. So

Speaker 3 yeah, more freedom.

Speaker 2 Daryl, what's next for you?

Speaker 1 What's next for me?

Speaker 2 What are you working on right now?

Speaker 1 Man, so working on, I think there's a lot of stuff that's that's just coming, that's happening.

Speaker 1 I think it's just stepping into to the the businesses that are happening stepping into

Speaker 1 the the my kids are getting older so stepping into like the different activities and stuff going on there dude that's that's a crazy topic in and of itself like both of us have seniors you have a 14 year old like

Speaker 2 yikes there's that i'm closer to being a grandpa than i am to being a newborn father like that's wild yeah that's wild how old is your oldest uh 17. she turns 18 here in like three weeks.
Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and she graduates next month.

Speaker 3 Oh, my gosh. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Wild. Yeah.
And my youngest is six. So, like, yeah.
Like, within the next six years, we could definitely grandpa Lee here. Crazy.

Speaker 1 I think there's kind of two sayings that I always like to live by. And it's one is like, how can it get better than this? Realizing, like, dude, life is really good.

Speaker 1 There's so many blessings there, but it can even get better. Right.
And just being excited for like what that could look like. And then this saying...

Speaker 3 Do you think in 10 years you're going to look back at your time right now and be like, oh, that was the glory day? That was the golden age. Or do you feel like 10 years from now?

Speaker 1 I think it'll always get better. Like, I do think there is that.

Speaker 1 You'll always look back and realize, holy cow, that was way better than I thought it was. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we do that initially because we're not tied into these negative emotions that really don't serve us. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And frankly, if it doesn't get better than this, like, why? Why, why even try? Right. Like,

Speaker 2 I think it will always, like, life is about progression, creation, value, right?

Speaker 1 Like, I'll actually give you an example of one of those. So, there's this place called Narnia, and it's a local place here where it's got all these different waterfalls.

Speaker 1 And we were there before we had this property.

Speaker 1 And I remember it's a saying in our family. Our girls always say it.
Whenever we're in like a really cool place or experience or doing something awesome, it's how can it get better than this?

Speaker 1 Someone will say it.

Speaker 1 And I remember one of my girls saying it there at the waterfall place. I'm like, I think I set out your property today, but I walked around.

Speaker 1 I remember saying that, I was like, how could it get better than this?

Speaker 2 But I think the terminology isn't like, wow, this is the best it can be. It's like, it's like, how do I make sure that I don't limit myself to only this? Right? Like,

Speaker 2 being able to, because I think one of the biggest self-destructive characteristics that any of us have is we self-destruct.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 we hit a ceiling and we're like, I'm not worthy of that. Or

Speaker 2 I only should have that.

Speaker 2 And so then we never get through that versus like, okay, I've gotten here

Speaker 2 and I'm loving this. I'm really enjoying this.
This is a freaking phenomenon. I mean, look at this, this waterfall.
We're like, how can it?

Speaker 2 I remember saying, what can I do to make it even better than this?

Speaker 1 And I remember saying that and then coming here and be like, ah. That's it.
I remember that time. That's how.
And now I'm here. I'm like, how can it get better than this?

Speaker 1 And I've had experiences with people here and that's how it's gotten better and so like I just know like life will continue to unfold as long as I'm excited and expecting things to be even better yeah and then the last the last piece or saying that I like to live by is just trust in the unknown and I learned that through meditation conference but trust the unknown trust in the unknown yeah and so basically what that looks like is like

Speaker 1 instead of trying to understand how everything's going to play out trust that the unknown what you don't know how it's going to play out, like the future, is going to be way better than you could imagine.

Speaker 1 So instead of trying to imagine the future, realize it's going to be even better than that.

Speaker 2 It's because we create so much anxiety, like trying to predict the future, right? Yeah. Like, oh, like this should be happening, or what's it, how's this going to impact me, right?

Speaker 2 And, you know, obviously we've had a lot of professional experiences in which this happened, right? Like early on with our business getting a million-dollar fine from the state, right? Like,

Speaker 2 how do you, like, if we just ponder on this and dwell on this, it's like, dude, we're done. It eats you up.
It's over. We're screwed.
Instead of like, hey, trust in the unknown.

Speaker 2 Somehow it's going to work out. I'm just going to keep putting a step, one step in front of the other.
And eventually,

Speaker 2 as long as I'm living in the present, right? Living in the present and doing my very best, the unknown will take care of itself.

Speaker 1 I'll give you an example because I think this is so important.

Speaker 1 I remember being in Cabo and I had a phone call with a couple employees, high-level management, and there was some massive tension.

Speaker 1 And I remember before I got on the phone call, because I was kind of stressing out about it, I caught myself. I said, you know what? Like, trust in the unknown.
Like,

Speaker 1 this is just a process that everyone involved has to go through. And at the end of it, everyone will end up in a situation way better than we currently are.

Speaker 1 And so I just walked in with that attitude and I was like, good. There was nothing that could shake me in that conversation.

Speaker 1 No matter how, how mad or whatever, but

Speaker 1 I was in an emotional state where I could handle anything.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Dude, I think that second, the first one's awesome, right? Like, how can I get better in this? I think that's just fun to dream that way.

Speaker 2 But the second one, I think, is like one of the most powerful things that you can tell yourself in any situation. Relationships, business, spiritually, right? Like,

Speaker 2 you just got to like... Breathe, trust in the unknown.

Speaker 1 Even like my wife, right?

Speaker 1 Like, I always want my relationship to improve and get better and you know one thing about relationships there are two people are involved and they're always changing and so like the relationship has to change right and and as we get older it's like we want our relationship to be even better and better and and sometimes there's struggles and sometimes it gets really really good and so we're always trying to like level up but even with that it's like uh

Speaker 1 I just trust like it's going to be awesome. And so I walk into my relationship knowing that I'm going to experience even better days in our relationship.

Speaker 1 And I just know it's going to come at some point. I don't put a timeline on it.
I don't put an expectation of how it's going to look. I just walk in knowing it's going to continue to get better.

Speaker 3 Do you feel like trust is in opposition of control?

Speaker 3 Because I feel like part of that means we have to let go of control

Speaker 3 and realize that in some ways we really don't have control of an outcome, but it's

Speaker 2 we can influence it, we can impact it, but yeah, like uh is there a facade of control that we that we probably there's definitely definitely a facade.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And less than control, it's like more like control the response, right? Like, I love Urban Meyer,

Speaker 2 his little equation, E plus R equals O. Have you heard that one? No.
So it comes from his book, Above the Line, which is absolutely phenomenal. And so it stands for event plus response equals outcome.

Speaker 2 And essentially it says if you want to impact and control the outcome, you just have to learn how to control the response. You're never going to be able to control the event.

Speaker 2 Events happen, and it's this all, it's the same mentality, right? Like events happen, like employees are outraged, somebody's quitting,

Speaker 2 a million-dollar fine, whatever, right? This is an event, literally no control over it, right? Like you may have been able to impact it before, but it's already happened. Here it is.

Speaker 2 Nothing's changing it.

Speaker 2 And so it's okay. If this is the event, how am I going to respond? If I want this outcome, and so the thing he always talks about is like, okay, understand what the outcome you want

Speaker 2 and say, if I wanted this outcome, how would I respond to this situation? Press pause. How would I respond in this situation to it? So like bring in a relationship, right?

Speaker 2 Like the outcome I want in my relationship with my wife is I want

Speaker 2 an eternal companion that's always with me. We're strong.
We love each other. We laugh together.

Speaker 3 We have a good time, right?

Speaker 2 Like all the different things, right? That's the outcome I always desire.

Speaker 2 Events. Wife comes up to me and says, yo, I want a divorce.
Like, that hasn't happened. Andrea, I love you.

Speaker 2 But say that was the event, right?

Speaker 2 In that moment, if I can press pause and realize, okay, what outcome do I want? How would I respond to that situation? Right.

Speaker 2 Versus like,

Speaker 2 I'm not clear on the outcome I want and I'm not willing to press pause.

Speaker 2 That when that event happens, like I just like react and respond in a way that's like what what are you talking about like I thought things were good what you know that's like

Speaker 2 versus like hey babe clearly I've done something wrong right like I if you are feeling this way like that's blindsiding me a little bit here

Speaker 2 I'm committed to to being

Speaker 2 your number one I want this like what

Speaker 2 how can we work on this right like that's a completely different response and it's same in business right like i want to go and i want to sell my business for a hundred million dollars

Speaker 2 i get a million dollar fine and we have 10 grand in the bank account right

Speaker 2 how am i going to respond to this particular situation if that's the outcome that i desire right versus you know and so it's just it's just constantly like keeping your eternal, I guess you'd say, or like future perspective of outcome.

Speaker 2 And so, and not necessarily controlling it, but more just controlling like the response and

Speaker 2 hoping for a better future.

Speaker 1 It's like, think of the person who already received the $10 million,

Speaker 1 whatever, right? Now, take him and put him in that situation. How would he respond? I think that's the best way to look at it, right? Yeah.
I look at it like in relationships.

Speaker 1 Like, my wife thinks I'm the coolest person in the world, 10 out of 10, everything's like perfect. How do I respond to her, right? And then, if I always treat her like that, that's how she shows up.

Speaker 1 And so, I think it's important that

Speaker 3 we show up like we want the opportunities or the people to show up yeah uh one of the really fascinating and interesting books i listened to this year was called imagine the god of heaven and it's a lot of people that have had near-death experiences that had out-of-body experiences saw their life in review and one of the interesting ones was this lady who talked about she saw her life And all the choices that she made were like ripples in a pond.

Speaker 3 It had all these effects. And she saw that her life had a path.
There was something for her to learn.

Speaker 3 and all the decisions she made in her life were like these uh rose compasses that kind of led but they all ended up leading to the same spot but it didn't really matter how she got there and she just realized that um

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 3 she no matter what she did there was something in her life that she needed to go through to learn and that there really wasn't any avoiding it right and so um she could have done all these different avenues in her life and choices but they all would have led her through this path where she would have had to learn and grow and there was just no avoiding it.

Speaker 3 And I think that's part of

Speaker 3 letting go of control is realizing like, hey, God has a plan.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 3 And all that you can do is be the best version of yourself

Speaker 3 and accept that, like,

Speaker 3 whatever you can do and whatever you're blessed to receive is...

Speaker 3 and accept whatever that path looks like versus trying to you know shape that path ourself and and i uh what i would interpret that as is like

Speaker 2 I think where control goes wrong is when we try to control others rather than control ourselves.

Speaker 2 Because what you're saying is like, I just need to control being my best version and understand that others are going to be the way they are and things are going to happen for a reason. Right.

Speaker 2 And I think where frustration happens in regards to control is like when I like

Speaker 2 want like I want to take away your choice or somebody else's and like get this perfect scenario that I have imagined up in my mind. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 3 I guess, and then one other story in that book is about this woman who was in this horrific situation,

Speaker 3 you know, extreme fear, extreme anxiety.

Speaker 3 She's in a terrible situation, has this near-death experience, looks back at her current circumstance and sees her life in review. And her mindset is just like, it's all okay because

Speaker 3 she sees what's next, which is this amazing

Speaker 3 like glory beyond description. And she ends up coming, obviously, back into her body and waking up in that situation.
And

Speaker 3 her peace and her calm that she felt in that circumstance, even though nothing had changed, she was still back in this exact same horrific. She just knew that in the end, it's all okay.

Speaker 3 It's like her perspective changed to an eternal view where it was like,

Speaker 3 what happens right now doesn't matter because this is what's next. And she ended up getting out of the situation, all worked out.
But just that perspective that

Speaker 3 what really matters is what's next after this life. And whatever happens here is

Speaker 2 not a big deal. I love it.
Well, everybody, Tyler, appreciate you being

Speaker 2 on the show. It was a lot of fun, just having a good conversation about everything.
Yeah, man. Appreciate you guys.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's look forward to spending the next few days here in Hawaii together.

Speaker 2 It's going to be a good time. Likewise.
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