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Hi, everyone.

Welcome to this week's episode of No Such Things as a Fish.

It is our summer audience fact special.

So, we're going to be going through all of our mailbag to find the best facts that you have sent in.

Because right now, Dan, we're not in the office, are we?

No, we are on the road.

We are doing our 10-year anniversary tour, Thunder Nerds.

We've already done one in Bristol.

We're on our way to Dublin to do our next one.

And man, it is what amazing gigs.

Yeah, it's absolutely incredible.

It's always amazing to do these shows because there are so many dorky, nerdy, geeky people out there.

We absolutely love it.

We feel like we're in our element.

And the shows themselves have been so much fun.

We've been doing quizzes.

People have been sending in their best facts.

We've met some incredible people, Dan.

Yeah, so we've set up for this tour, the Hall of Fame, where we're inducting a new person.

who's appeared as one of the facts in our show and we get them coming live on stage.

But James, Anna, and Andy don't know who they are.

I've been bringing them secretly in.

We have had the descendant of Confucius on stage with us.

We have had the asparamancer, the person who predicts all of the future political situations using asparagus, aka Mystic Veg.

She was there in Bristol.

We've had the co-writer of Fatburg, the musical.

I have very exciting ones lined up for Dublin and for Glasgow, as well as Cardiff.

London and Manchester.

I am so excited for these things.

It's an amazing night.

Have you got anyone for Newcastle?

You didn't mention Newcastle.

Oh, I do.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Newcastle might be the best.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

Well, if you are in any of those aforementioned towns, then make sure you come to the show.

There are still tickets available for all of them.

I think there might be a London show that sold out, but we did put on a new show.

So the tickets are available and you can get them by going to no suchthingsfish.com forward slash live.

Okay, Dan, we got a flight to get.

We do.

So let's get onto it.

You guys get your tickets.

We'll see you there at the live show.

Come say hi afterwards when we take photos with everyone.

It's a great night.

See you there.

But for now, enjoy the audience fact show.

Hello and welcome to No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming to you from the QA offices in Hoban.

My name is Andrew Hunter Murray.

I'm here with Dan Shriver, James Harkin and Anna Tajinski.

And once again, we have gathered around the microphones with your favorite facts from the last three months.

That's right, it's our summer audience fact special.

You've been emailing your facts in to podcast at qy.com.

We've caught a few of the very best ones and we're going to be serving them back to you today.

Here we go, starting with James.

Okay, well, the first one that I've got on my big pile of facts is from Glenn Matthews.

And Glenn writes, to rival the Eiffel Tower one suggestion for the Chicago World's Fair was a 200-person bungee

cool

on the same but extremely strong bungee rope no no all different bungee ropes this is from a book called the Devil and the White City by Eric Larson which Glenn read and he has lots of other amazing things that you could have instead of an Eiffel Tower to celebrate your city in this case Chicago hang on tourists go every moment of every day to see the Eiffel Tower if you were truly going to rival it it, you would need 200 bungee jumpers doing that every second of the day.

There's nothing wrong with that.

I just want to make sure.

You could do it like not every second, but you could do it every half an hour, say, right?

Yeah.

I remember staying in a hotel in Las Vegas and there was a bungee jump place on the top of the hotel.

And just you would open your window in the morning.

You're like, oh, what a beautiful.

And then there'd just be a guy sort of plummeting past your window.

If you trekked in late at night and you didn't know that was happening, you'd be like, oh my god, someone's, oh no, cancel it, never mind.

He's going back up.

He must have changed his mind.

Didn't when we stayed in New Zealand on our first fish tour, there was the hotel was having a special charity power in Auckland, whatever it's called.

Yeah.

I don't remember.

Yeah, they do bungee off there as well.

It's all they do in New Zealand, isn't it?

Having been.

People bungee jump all the time.

It's everywhere.

Yeah.

Quite a lot in Australia, but New Zealand, it's just

New Zealand and Lord of the Rings tourism.

This is your weirdest stereotype.

I've never it's not a stereotype.

In New Zealand there's a different legal thing and it's to do with the insurance that you get for extreme sports and I think the government might cover some of it which means that it's much easier to set up an extreme sports thing in New Zealand than it is anywhere else in the world.

Wow.

I see.

That's why.

I thought they were just into it.

So

it's not a tax break.

It's not tax deductible.

It's not tax break so much as you don't, it costs you less to do it.

How would that work?

if you're cost any bungeeing you don't pay any tax

yeah you're sitting with your accountant saying god you've really gone over the threshold this year but good news mrs saunders you can do 76 bungee jumps your your investments can go down and up and down and up

so yeah what do you think we could have let's say for instance in uh london we wanted a new tower to rival the eiffel tower they did actually come up with some ideas didn't they but what do you think would be a good thing i guess the london eye was meant to be that right kind kind of well actually the London eye was supposed to be temporary I think okay what about this the London ear oh yeah right oh yes so keep going well

it's um it's a huge ear yeah like the London eye looks like a big eye sort of and you can if you go in it you can hear sounds from all over London

so it's not it's not an amazing view it's an amazing sound and every day those people from gladiators use one of their massive pugil sticks to clean it

exactly yeah

Yeah, okay, that's a good idea.

Well, you'd want to be able to hear something, right?

So maybe you need another ear set up over in Paris.

So it's like one of the, you know, when you go to like a telephone, kind of like a telephone, but in

no, in China, in the summer palace, I seem to remember that you would go to either end of the palace and they would have somehow that you would whisper to the wall and you could hear everything.

Like you have in playgrounds, you often have at other ends of the playgrounds, those things you talk into that never work.

So one of those at Grand Central Station in New York, Whispering Gallery, and also a small hole.

Yeah.

So that's a good idea.

Thank you.

Jenga Tower.

Jenga Tower.

Everyone plays.

Every Londoner gets to play, and you just have to insert a brick each.

And then the person who causes it from the game is

quite hard.

I'm spoiling every game of Jenga.

She's broken bricks.

We've been playing this game of Jenga for hours.

I don't understand.

Great.

Well, come on, James.

What did they propose?

Sorry.

Was this Chicago?

This was for the World's Fair in Chicago.

So J.B.

McCumber thought you could get a massive tower, which is much bigger than the Eiffel Tower, 10 times the size of the Eiffel Tower,

and you would put rails from the top going all the way to New York, Boston, and Baltimore, which you can toboggan down to get home.

It's a great idea.

Hang on, you toboggan all the way from Chicago to one of these.

That's going to be a long toboggan commute, isn't it?

Well,

you know what?

The gradient is going to to be quite unexciting, I would guess.

Yeah, it's a green run.

Oh, but it has to be enough.

It has to be enough that you can deboggin.

You know, when you go in a water slide and there's not enough water and there's not enough gradient, you just have to pull yourself along on your butt.

Terrifying.

Like a dog with worms.

You have to do that for 400 miles.

He said in his proposal, as the cost of the tower and its slides is of secondary importance, I do not mention it here, but will furnish figures upon application.

Beautiful.

Send you another fact.

Yeah, yeah, that's a fun.

This one is from

this one is from Suleiman Ilias Jarrett, and he said that he recently learned that since Biden dropped out of the presidential race, this will be the first U.S.

election since 1976 that doesn't have a Bush, a Clinton, or a Biden on the ticket.

Cool.

Including vice president.

What?

And he said.

1976.

I even checked it myself because I didn't believe it and then gave us a Wikipedia link, which admittedly I didn't check.

I thought it would be ballsy to put that link link in there if it didn't prove his point.

Biden's not a great inclusion.

Biden just is a normal president who

becomes the last three because he did vice president for two terms.

Two terms.

Oh, it includes VP.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So Bush is including native Reagan.

God, that's weird.

Do you want to hear a fact about presidential names?

Because I thought I'd find one myself after having read this.

Do you know what Grover Cleveland's nickname was?

Rover Cleveland.

Yeah?

Because he liked to go for a long walk.

Oh, yeah.

No, it's not that.

Drover Cleveland, because he would herd his sheep across America.

Any more rhymes of Grover you want to go working on then?

Should I tell you?

Yes.

Well, two.

You can have two options.

One is Big Steve.

Yeah.

Isn't that a great nickname for Grover to Cleveland?

Big Steve.

Was Steve even a name then?

Well, believe it or not, it was Grover Cleveland's first name because Grover was another nickname that he had oh was it

he was actually called stephen steve cleveland but as in i'm surprised that steve

of course stephen has been a name forever and ever but steve you don't get a lot of steve's popping up in dickens or in steve yeah but he's american it's a very american name it is now

stephen fry has this whole thing that he his american adventure he so nearly moved to america when he was a kid and he pictures this whole world where he was steve fry because that's the name he would have undoubtedly had it's such a yeah i don't know edith water and henry James aren't mentioning many Steve's.

I don't think, but I don't know.

If you're called Steve and you're 150 years old,

write in.

Okay, let's get through a few more facts.

Yeah, yeah.

Mandarin writes in, and she writes in with some nominative determinism.

Lovely.

Arthur Owen Blessett is a travelling Christian preacher who is known for carrying a cross through every nation in the world.

Lovely.

Every nation.

Every nation.

That's very

all 193 of them.

He must have been annoyed when South Sudan was founded.

Yes.

Whenever there's a new one, he must be like, oh, for God's sake, picks up his cross.

Do we know if he takes a position on places like Taiwan

or micro-nations?

Yeah.

I don't know that.

Has he visited all those tiresome former oil rigs off the edge of the British coast?

Yes.

Some pratt has said, oh, this is Steveland.

All the utopian failed areas.

I could just imagine Anna going to him going, so Arthur, bless it, have you been to Germany?

And he's like, fucking Black Adder, where he's forgotten.

And we got one more bit of nominative determinism from Nathan Dwyer.

He said that Scottish poet Ivor Cutler kept a set of ivory cutlery in his home.

No.

That's fair enough.

I mean, probably a complicated bookless.

A lot of people did, didn't they?

He's also a comedy writer.

Exactly.

Ivor Cutler.

He's a poet, isn't he?

Who writes comic books?

I don't know anything about Ivor Cutler.

But he sounds great.

A friend of the Beatles.

Okay, okay

sounds like a euphemism there friend of the Beatles

I don't know what for but

he was in the magical mystery tar

where he played a bus conductor called buster blood vessel which is where the pop star from bad manners gets his name I don't know about that we've gone down a train that I have not been able to find we're actually on a bus right now

do you guys remember when I visited the man with maybe the biggest collection of cutlery in private hands yes not not only that but this just shows where the hierarchy lay back in those days you visited him because you did the original QI research and you picked up all the cutlery.

And then once we were done with it, I had to slept there to take it all back to him.

I didn't even know that we'd bothered returning it.

You wouldn't have, Andy.

You were on to your next project.

Wow.

That was the 11th series of QI, because it was the K-series.

Yes.

What series are we on now?

22 or 3.

So you've been carrying around that grudge for how many years?

I'm so glad I've got it off my chest.

I've just got the wording.

It felt like you've practiced it in the mirror.

It felt like this has been something you've been ready to get off your chest.

I'm very excited.

So you did that.

You took his cutlery and then you just didn't think he might want this back?

No, I probably said something like, oh, someone sort this out.

Some fucking idiot.

He would never have said that to a colleague.

But I'd say, can we get one of the, you know, the juniors to

sort this out?

James,

give us another fact.

So Lowell Bender writes, if you haven't already covered this, I'd like you to know that some U.S.

banks have their own zip code.

Ah,

of course.

Lots of buildings actually have their own zip codes in America.

And in fact, the shoe floor of Saks on Fifth Avenue has its own zip code.

One floor of a building.

One floor that sells shoes.

That's very fashion.

Ironic because shoes are one item of clothing that rarely has zips.

There speaks a woman unacquainted with high fashion.

Yep.

Auntie and Dale are both wearing their knee high boots today.

So many shoes have zips.

I mean, they're not most.

I think most shoes would have like go into a leather shop and you'll see a lot of zips.

Do leather shoes have zips?

High-heel, female high-heel boots, beetle-like boots.

No, you're right.

It's not as ironic as I led everyone to believe because some shoes do have zips.

What's something that never has zips?

Hats.

If it was a hat shop, it wouldn't be.

Oh, well, on contrary,

we have self-hit top hat to show a fully zipped Trilby.

Yes, so the zip code of the shoe shop was created as a one-off partnership between SACS and USPS.

I feel very mucky about that.

I'm not sure about that.

It's like when so sometimes London Underground stations will do a humorous collaboration with a big mega corp company and they'll change the name of the station for the day to Bond James Bond Street.

Oh, yeah.

Or something if there's a James Bond film out of plug.

I don't know if they've done that, but I just think it must be really confusing for people who are just trying to get around London and you're tourists.

Maybe you're not familiar with it.

When do you think you turn up to Bond Street Station, which is on Bond Street and you see it's called James Bond Bond Street and you're like, oh, it must be somewhere else.

That's a bad example.

That's a bad example.

Fair enough.

I just got back from Turkey, right?

And I was at the immigration desk, handed my passport in, and the guy behind it, he looked at my passport, and he went up and he looked at me and he went, Mr.

Bond.

And then he laughed and said, I bet you get that all the time.

And I laughed going, yeah.

And I was going, I've never had that in my life.

And then I realized it's because my middle name is Craig.

So I am Daniel Craig on my passport.

I actually get it quite regularly, I must say.

You get

James Bond because I've got James.

Like, I've definitely had it at least twice going through immigration in Russia, for instance.

Right.

And I've had it in a few other countries as well.

Really?

Yeah, yeah.

It's really weird.

That's so weird because there are other famous Jameses.

Yeah, but I was carrying a revolver and

having sex with a woman

and drinking a martini at the time.

While we're on Russia and also kind of on trains, I read a thing which I wonder if you know the Russian word for train.

Is it like

how would you spell it?

Oh, Vaxal, Vauxhall.

Vaxal is train station.

Yeah, and that and the story goes that a bunch of Russian engineers came over to the UK.

They went to

Vauxhall

tube, and they were like, this is so good, we'll just go back and name everything after it.

It was the Vauxhall overground station, I think, which was really ornate at the time.

I don't know if it still is, I haven't been there for a while.

Oh, it's, I wouldn't,

if I had to reach for one word to describe Vauxhall, I would not describe it as ornate.

It's very functional.

Oh, really?

Because almost all train stations are quite beautiful.

So if Vauxhall hasn't managed to achieve that, but mind you, it was probably they're probably going for that Soviet aesthetic, which often isn't ornate.

Yes.

Although, in fairness, Russian train stations are pretty beautiful, aren't they?

Generally speaking, yeah.

And the underground, especially, like the undergrounds tend to be huge bolts with very ornate artwork and stuff.

Vauxhall Underground is the eighth wonder of the world.

Oh, yes.

Can I do one more?

Yeah, yeah.

Robbie Garmin writes about mushrooms.

He's found a phrase on a website: if it smells spermatozoic, eat it.

If not, you'll probably die.

All right.

Wait.

I need a reminder of what that smell is.

No, no, no, I don't think you do.

What's the deal with all mushrooms that smell like sperm are safe?

No, it's a very specific mushroom called the miller.

I don't know if anyone's told our colleague Anne Miller about this, but it can look very much like the deadly poisonous fool's funnel.

And apparently, the best way to tell whether your mushroom is a Miller or a poisonous fool's funnel is to sniff it.

And in most polite books, it says it smells like raw dough.

But actually, scientific places say it smells spermatozoic.

What if someone just wanked off on a fool's funnel?

Anna.

It's a great question.

It's a great question.

Good question.

It's not worth the risk, I think.

It's not.

It's possible.

Wow.

We're imagining being told, like, God, we've got bad news about your weird fetish.

You thought it was all innocent.

You're out in the fields making our mushrooms.

You've killed 50 people.

You're under arrest.

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Okay, it's now time for fact number two, and that is the facts that have been sent to Anna.

My headline fact this week

is from Jeffrey Partiker.

He said, My fact is that every March, the US has a 50% increase in vasectomies so that men can spend their recovery time watching the men's college basketball tournament.

That's superb.

It is, and it seems to have been a very clever bit of PR from the vasectomy industry because this is known as March Madness in America, and it's where...

The basketball.

The basketball, yes.

And it's where all college basketball teams play each other.

And it's all done very intensively, like a knockout tournament, all happens in the same three-week space.

So ideal for recovery time.

I mean, actually, it only takes about six six hours to recover from oversectomy.

So this is a lot of malingering men on their stones.

Could be a botched one.

It could be.

But they always ask for the botched one.

I was talking to the comedian John Bishop about vasectomies and he had one.

And he was telling me that on the day, because you're awake when you have it, right?

But they go in.

So they sort of cut open the ball sack and you've got to go into each testicle with the tube.

So doctor does the first one and he's laying there and he's sort of like, it's a very weird sensation.

He's very aware of it gets the second testicle and the doctor says do you mind we have a um a student doctor who's in today who would be interested to take the answer

can he keep one of your testicles is that all right you won't be using it

so he says yeah the student doctor goes in and gives it a cut and then all he hears next is oh no and the doctor says what have you done and and suddenly there's a bit of a crisis moment where he sees his testicle being lifted out and so on.

And he's going, what is going on?

It was a total botch job.

And they managed to fix it.

They sewed him up.

So you can get botched, even when you're famous comedians.

Especially when I would have thought if you

go in as a student doctor and it's Judy Dench there who's for sexomy performing, which I know is unlikely.

So when they're advertising these for sexomies,

so you can watch basketball, do they say it'll give you a free shot?

Brilliant.

As in, you can have sex without having kiss

they should they they advertise it as vast madness why don't they call it basketball why i'm sure that's in the art in the press releases okay if not you're welcome yeah america yeah why don't they get keith fuzz to do the address

i mean they might be already doing it i'm sure he's welcome

anyway um this guy sounds great actually jeffrey he said um i wanted to link this fact with information regarding frozen pea sales in america because that's a solution often for men who don't have an ice pack.

But there was no public information breakdown of monthly sales of frozen peas, so I've tendered a letter to the US Department of Agriculture about this deficiency.

And

he also says, I feel it should be noted that I left the mushy pea jokes to the professionals despite the low-hanging fruit.

There we go.

Yeah, he didn't give us the low-hanging fruit jokes.

He jumps in with that one.

Well, thank you, Geoffrey.

That's lovely.

This is a great little fact from Robin.

During World War II, the German city of Constance actually kept its lights on so that pilots flying overhead would think they were still over Switzerland.

Very clever.

It's brilliant.

Yeah, yeah.

Must just be close to the Swiss border.

It's from Lake Constance.

I've been to Lake Constance.

Have you?

Nice.

Did it have its lights on?

It was daytime.

So they were cleverly.

They just bumped it anyway.

Nice.

Yeah.

Very cool.

I think I was on the Swiss side of Lake Constance.

Yeah, me too, actually.

Interesting.

Funny you didn't bump into each other.

It was at different times.

You don't know that?

I do.

We're not allowed to take holidays at the same time anyway.

No, that's true.

In case you're both killed at the same time.

No, that is really cool.

And I can't remember why I was looking this up.

But,

oh, in fact, it was one of my facts.

It was about Roll Albert Hall.

During the Blitz.

Or maybe it was in the First World War, but whatever it was, they would put over massive curtains over the top of it.

And it was the same stuff as they would use to black it out whenever they showed movies.

but they would put it all the way over the

top of it so that no lights would come out and would give anything away or lights would shine off the glass so they usually use it to black out the inside yeah wow and they sort of turned it inside out put the black roof off i thought you were gonna say wasn't that fact that the roof of the album hall isn't attached it was mostly that it was built in manchester and then taken apart and then rebuilt on the yeah roll-up it's just sitting on top it's just yeah it's just loose it's like an upturned bowl i mean domes are just mental aren't they like what's the one in Florence?

Is it Brunelleschi made the one in Florence, and we still don't know how he did it?

Ooh,

it's got no structure holding it up.

It basically holds itself up.

Is that the Duomo?

The Duomo, maybe, yeah.

I think it is.

It's into the Duomo when I was saying it.

I was trying to, but not at the same time.

But yeah, and we don't know how he did it.

What we think is he built like the first circle.

And then the next level sort of interlocked with the previous level of bricks.

The next level interlock with those, and then eventually it sort of holds itself up.

Like a jigsaw.

Like a jigsaw, kind of, yeah.

Interesting.

Like Lego almost.

But we don't fully...

But we still don't know how he did it.

Do you think if you're one of the builders doing it and you're like,

this doesn't work?

And he's like, no, it will, it will.

Like, what's your confidence as a builder when someone's handed you a blueprint of something that no other architect can make sense of?

Yeah, I can only imagine Brunelleschi was saying, just do it, mate.

Just do it.

Yeah, don't ask questions.

Just take this cutlery where I tell you to take it.

I think it's amazing anything that was built before about 1800.

Oh,

big.

Anything substantial, just it's insane that they did that.

Using what?

And built better, really.

And built to last longer than planning buildings today, am I right?

Yeah,

Stonehenge.

Yeah.

Look at that.

It's not that good a house.

You would want to live in Stonehenge, would you?

The pyramids were the tallest building on our planet until something in America, right?

The Ivy Tower, I think.

No, no, no.

Lincoln Cathedral.

In Lincoln, UK, right?

Yeah,

not in the States, yeah.

And then it was Lincoln Cathedral for 400 years, and also the Duomo, I think, was the biggest dome in the world until the Royal Albert Hall, I think.

Nice.

Good fact.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

I think this is my favourite fact that came through.

It's from Justice Goldstein Shirley.

And it's this amazing thing that Bookland is a made-up country.

Bookland.

Where all books come from?

Did that preacher manage to get there to

Arthur Bless it

with his cross.

I don't know if Blessed has been there.

To me, this is not a good fact.

This is a poor fact because it's just madey uppy.

No, no, no, because it's where all books come from.

Ah, but no.

I've been to a place where books are printed.

It wasn't in Bookland.

You went there as well, didn't you, Andy?

Not at the same time as Clay.

Basically, as they say,

I've just learned a fact you all may enjoy.

According to their barcodes, all published books come from a country called Bookland.

And it's because when barcode numbers were being standardized in the 1980s, the first three digits of all barcodes of like products that you buy in shops, whatever, were assigned according to a country of origin.

But books already had ISBN numbers, and so they didn't want to completely change the system for books.

So they thought, we're just going to add a country onto the front of the ISBN numbers, a little bit to add it to the barcode.

But to make things easy, we're just going to say all books are from the same country.

And it's 978, which I've never noticed every single book has the same first three letters at the start.

Numbers at the start of the bookcase, no, I just better check.

978.

Yep, this one's got a label on it.

How many should we do?

978.

Yeah, 978.

Mark Mason's book, 978.

Katie Hickman's book, 978.

Dan Schreiber's Impossible Things, 978.

Out now.

Out now.

Dan Schreiber's Impossible Things 979.

Yeah, all they've all got.

978 at the end of the day.

Amazing.

All the numbers.

It works.

That's great.

Anyway, and that's book land.

This is called Book Land.

That's like the shoe shop having its own zip code.

All books have their own country of origin in a non-existent country.

Love that.

John Meet more.

Yes.

Yeah.

Great.

I will.

Benjamin Cutt.

1986 movie, The Manhattan Project.

Has anyone seen it?

Okay, no.

Nope.

It's about a kid who makes

who.

Nice.

Nice.

It is.

It was fine, man.

It was quick.

It wasn't funny, but it was quick.

That was a Richard Feynman joke.

Oh, was it?

Oh, wow.

Dan, that was good.

That was highbrow.

It's about a kid who makes a nuclear bomb, and the prop designer took things a bit too far and designed a bomb that might actually have worked.

Is that based on a real story?

Because there was a kid who made a bomb, wasn't there?

Do you remember?

Yeah, there was.

I think that was that not more recently.

I think it was a boy.

Yes.

I think it was about then, and it was in his shed or something.

Yeah.

And they had to take a shed and bury it in the middle of the desert.

That's right.

Wow.

It doesn't claim so, but maybe they did plagiarise the story.

How do they know it might have worked?

Well, this is the thing.

It said it would have worked, but it was minus the plutonium sphere.

And then I went down such a rabbit hole about how you make atomic bombs.

And basically, the plutonium sphere is the center, which is quite important.

It is the main bit, isn't it?

Yeah.

So this is the explosives around it.

But I ended up looking up.

But still, you know, you've put all the explosives together.

All you need to do is chuck a plutonium.

If you watch the Mission Impossible films, those things are ten a penny.

They're constantly being traded across the world.

I love the idea, though, of prop makers doing it so well that the thing like can you imagine if like Michael J.

Fox actually disappeared when he hit 88 and the DeLorean

have you guys heard of the demon core?

No.

It's

kind of cool.

So I looked up plutonium sphere and this is the only thing that comes up.

It was the third bomb.

So it was meant to be the bombs that obliterated Hiroshima and Nakazaki.

The Americans had a third one ready to go if the Japanese didn't surrender.

They nicknamed it Rufus, but it was renamed the Demon Core.

But basically, when Japan surrendered, they were like, Well, we've got this spare plutonium core now.

Let's do loads of experiments with it.

And these scientists just went nuts with it, trying to experiment with how much radiation it took to kill you and, you know, where you reach the critical point where there's a radiation explosion.

But it kept on going wrong, understandably.

So there was this scientist called Henry Daglian in August 1945 who went to the lab after dinner, which sounds a lot like he had a lot to drink, stumbled back to the lab, built all these bricks around the plutonium core made of tungsten carbide, which apparently makes it more and more radioactive.

And he got to the exact moment where he knew if he added one more brick, it would suddenly have this radiation explosion.

This is our version of Jenga as well, isn't it?

He's just going to add one more brick.

It's the most dangerous Jenga game in the world.

Wow.

For bad kids.

Did he add it?

No, what he did was he thought, you know, what I'm going to do is I'm going to take the bricks away now because I don't want to kill myself.

But he went went to take one brick away and he dropped it on the core, and there was a big flash of radiation.

It was only for a split second, and he went and grabbed it and pushed it off.

But that was enough, and within 20 days, he was dead.

Whoa!

Yeah, it's the scariest thing, isn't it?

Because you think, you think, oh, that tingled a bit.

It's probably fine.

But it's actually not if it's a plutonium core.

Good to know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Public service.

Anyway, that was just the rabbit hole I went down.

Wow.

That's brilliant.

Okay, let's have one last one from Sam Bromley who says, during a bout of hiccups today, I did some googling and found out that some proven remedies for hiccups include finger in the rectum or a fist.

I'm afraid there's nothing more to that.

The thing is, like, if a finger in the rectum works, why go full fist?

Or did it start off with an arm?

And then they thought, actually, just the fist will work.

And then they're like, oh, actually, just a few fingers will work.

Actually, maybe just give it 10 minutes and we'll go national.

Certainly, it would be a shock.

You know, you're told to shock someone.

I think, yeah.

Just if you start hiccupping and someone puts the fist up your exome, then that will be a shock.

Yeah.

And it's worth two in the bush, I hear.

A fist on the ass is worth it.

Come on, dandy.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I bought my wife something called hiccups.

What?

Hiccough.

Anti-hiccup thing.

What a shape is fist.

It's a mechanical arm that just

a thing that you drink from, but it's like a straw, and it's supposed to be proven to get rid of hiccups because my wife suffers from hiccups.

So, James, I'm here to tell you that you have given your wife the fist, whether you know it or not.

Okay, that's what the fist is.

So, a finger in the rectum study, and he has cited studies which actually show a finger up the rectum works, but the fist is something completely different.

F-I-S-S-T, and it stands for Forced Inspiratory Suction and Swallow Tool, and it is the hickaway.

Oh.

So you fisted your wife without even knowing it.

Stop it, Ella.

This is the blue story.

It's just facts.

It's just facts.

So what is it?

It's a straw that's particularly hard to suck, I think, isn't it?

Why does the finger work out of curiosity?

Surprise.

No, because if I'm doing it to me, that's not a surprise.

I think it'll still be a surprise.

It'll probably surprise you.

It's not a surprise to yourself.

It's like trying to tickle yourself.

You can't tickle yourself.

I believe if you're schizophrenic, you can.

Shock yourself with a finger at your own venus.

All right, there we go.

No, I think, is it vagus nerve stuff?

I actually didn't read the study.

It's a digital rectal massage that you give yourself, but I felt like I'd gone deep enough.

The only thing I remember about putting a finger at the bottom is it's the way to get a dog to stop biting you.

Oh, put the dog's bottom or your own.

The dog's like, that's disgusting.

We're not biting this guy.

Thank God you clarified, though, Adam.

There will be someone out there who will remember that little nugget one day.

He died being bitten by a dog with his finger up his ass.

We can't quite work out.

Okay, it's time for facts number three.

And that is Dan.

Yep, so we've been sent in a fact here by John Waldrop from 1934 to 1947.

And then from 1951 till his death in 1954, the mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana was Harry Balls.

Very good.

Yeah, I sort of remember mentioning him years ago on the show, but I don't think it made it to an edit in the end.

He's called Harry.

He's called Harry Balls.

B-A-A-L-S.

The pronunciation is that because he was once on a radio show with a guy called Bob Chase who wasn't quite sure what to say in the moment.

And so he pronounced the mayor's name Bales.

So he said, Mayor Bales is with us.

And he called him on it and he said, son, this is your mayor.

I pronounce my name Balls.

So he was very into that.

But yeah, he seemed to be quite an interesting character.

He did a lot of stuff for the city.

He sort of helped to build underground sewerage systems.

He launched lots of city departments, lowered the city tax rates.

A liked guy by all accounts.

I looked him up on eBay and you can find

now.

No, there's a lot of like of the old paraphernalia that you can buy from his, I guess, election time and just general stuff.

And I can't tell which ones are genuine or not, but it's, it's, you know, on the badges, it will say stuff like, I'm proud of my Harry Balls, you know, stuff like that.

So they obviously leaned into it.

And apparently, one of the most stolen street signs that you can get in the States is Harry Balls Drive.

And that's constantly being.

Wow.

Yeah.

So they had to rename it to H.W.

Balls Drive.

Just

kind of feel like the balls bit is kind of part of the problem.

Exactly.

But yeah, so yeah, thank you very much to John Waldrop.

Here's an interesting one that we got sent in.

Someone was saying that I love the show.

Oh, that's great.

Yep.

Move on to the next one, maybe?

Yeah, so this is from Jessica Ackerman.

I love the show.

In episode 53A, Anna's fact is that there are only two colors of cat.

As a cat lover, I love the conversation.

And I have a rad fact about cat allergies to share.

We can use chickens to make cats less allergenic.

Okay, so this is how it's done.

The protein, Fel D1, is responsible for around 90% of cat allergies in humans.

The protein is found in cat saliva.

Scientists have found that chickens raised in the proximity to cats develop an antibody to FELD1 called IgY.

That is passed into the yolk.

If you feed a cat egg yolks from the cat-exposed chickens, the IgY antibody will cause the cat's body to produce less of the FELD1 protein, thereby lessening the allergen that most humans react to.

So, sorry, keep a chicken near your cat, then feed the cat cat the eggs of the chicken chicken has laid yes and the cat will produce less of the stuff that how do i convince my cat to eat this egg do i mix it in with some evian yeah

it's exactly that you mix it into the cat food um there's also companies now there's a one called purina that sells a cat food that i believe has it mixed into it already um but the diy solution as jessica points out is you you mix it into the food of your cat um we can't we can't eat the eggs and sort it out on our our side.

It has to be the cats.

Because then the cat would have to eat you.

Yes.

That's a great fact.

Yeah, that's great.

That's very cool.

That's very cool.

Well, this is quite similar, actually.

This is from Zoe Keene.

She writes that Dr.

Anthony Waddle has created budget frog saunas.

And this could be amazing.

I hate it because I always spend so much money on my frog saunas.

About time someone hit the lower end of the market.

So there are frogs that are being wiped out by a fungal infection called chytrid or citrid.

C-H-Y-T-R-D.

It's a really big problem, isn't it?

So you have these rare frogs in places like Hawaii, which are just dying because they're dying by the thousand because they're just getting these.

fungal infections.

Yeah, so it's thought to have caused 90 species to go extinct, decline of a further 500 species.

It's a big, big problem.

And the idea is that once this fungus reaches an environment where the frogs are living, it's pretty much impossible to save them.

That's what it's been like up until now, until Dr.

Anthony Waddell comes in with his frog saunas.

Because what he's worked out is that heat treatment will prevent frogs from

croaking, as

Zoe has written.

So they set up basically set up a bunch of experiments where they put frogs into a sauna-like condition.

It was very heated.

They made it so that it was fun for them to be in there.

And they noticed that.

Sorry, how did they make it fun?

Well, I guess

they said, you can pour the water on the coal.

Lovely, fluffy towels to where they make sure there's a good storage unit for all their gold and watches.

Yeah,

relax.

You don't go to bunching saunas

where's the gold locker sorry

you don't know what you have to do you've got to take off all the jewelry oh like your wedding ring and things yeah

it sounded like you were turning up with a huge chain

also don't you shouldn't really take off your wedding ring when you go into the sauna i know

shouldn't you i don't know because i don't know these saunas they're not burned for you

doesn't it so okay so the basically the idea is that they created what are effectively saunas for the frogs to to be in, and they discovered that the frogs seem to have an immunity once they are in this heated area, and that the fungus can't handle the heat and dies off.

Is it if they've caught it, they can be saved?

Do you know what I mean?

Do they have to have already contracted the fungus?

Yeah.

Maybe that builds up a bit of a test.

It must be, because if you just put a bunch of uninfected frogs in saunas, they're also not going to get it.

But also, you've got a bunch of uninfected frogs stuck in a sauna for it.

Yeah, true.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So hang on.

So in the lab, they allowed infected frogs the option of spending time in the warm environment.

They sprang at the chance to use the saunas.

The fungus could not handle the heat, and the frogs recovered.

A control group without sauna access stayed infected.

Right.

So, what they're trying to work out now is how do we create natural saunas for these frogs in the

warning?

There we go.

It's naturally going to happen.

It's going to be we're all going to die except the frogs.

Do you know that fungi are two times more deadly than they were in 1990?

Why?

Because people keep spaffing off onto them.

That's so rude.

It's an epidemic.

It is.

So due to a substance that we're putting on them, but it's fungicides, basically.

James, sorry, I never do this, but just a quick request for the edit.

Can you just remove all the earlier mentions that animated that so it comes absolutely out of nowhere?

Yeah, we're using more fungicides than ever.

And

like if you use too many antibiotics, you get antibiotic-resistant bacteria, you can get more antifungal resistant, so they're much more dangerous than they were 30 years ago.

I've had a thought about this fact that we got in, was it from Zoe?

Yeah, the frog sauna one.

Yeah.

You know, it's nice because now we can update a saying, can't we?

There's that classic saying, you know, if you put a frog in warm water and raise the temperature,

how long before it screens or whatever, or how long before it, you know, pants.

It can count.

It's like a batchy one.

So saying?

No, but you know, it's a little saying, is it?

It's a parable of antiquity.

It's just like count your chickens that I I didn't know.

Is this another there's a frog in frog in a bath and you raise the temperature and you know how long before it actually realizes that it's dangerous and tries to jump out

of it.

It's a thought.

It's a thought.

You've heard that experiment.

Use it in like I'm at your house.

Whenever you say that, for instance, oh, Dan, you know what?

These tax rises, they're happening, but they're happening quite slowly.

And so people don't complain about them.

It's like a frog being in a pot of water and it's getting warmer and warmer and warmer and they never jump out because they never realize it's gotten too hot.

Thank you.

Exactly.

A great political option, not the one I would have.

Yeah, but that's basically the premise.

Okay, this is an update because you've got a frog in a sauna, and it's nice.

It was more of a slam dunk in my head when I was planning this.

More than that, really.

Let's move on to Oliver Titcomb, who says, My fact this week is that Canadian police procedural due south was set in Chicago, but filmed in Toronto.

In one episode, the characters crossed the border to reach Toronto.

This scene was filmed in Chicago.

That's very nice.

Is that for a funny joke of the directors?

I know.

I looked into it slightly, and that's kind of one of those IMDb factoids that you don't get much more on.

Maybe it's out there.

I never watched You South, but I always assumed it was Canadian, all of it.

It was set in Chicago,

which is not in Canada.

I know, right?

So not.

I was going to assume it was Canadian.

You recognized all the sites of Toronto.

Why do they keep referring to Chicago when there's the famous Cientawa?

It's right there.

Yeah.

Wait, hang on.

Where was it?

It was filmed in Chicago.

It was filmed in Chicago.

No, filmed in Toronto.

Thank you.

I think, I actually didn't look into this bit, but I'm going to assume that it's a Canadian police show that is based about a Chicago police station.

How in what sense is it a Canadian police show except that it's filmed in Toronto?

The show follows the adventures of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

What are they doing?

What is going on then?

Why are they

who first came to Chicago on the trail of the killers of his father?

I see.

So it's a mountain who is like a fish out of water or a frog out of sauna.

He goes to Chicago.

I think this would have been helped if any of us had seen Dew South.

Yes.

Also, Oliver's email was a bit longer and I cropped it to just that one paragraph.

So he actually did explain a little more, but I thought, okay, I'm sending it to Dan.

I've just got to include the first para.

Yeah, yep.

That's the show's format.

Looked at the stereotypical differences between Canadian and American culture of the time.

That sounds quite good.

Created by Paul Haggis.

Great name.

I want to see the show where he goes to Scotland.

Yeah.

Okay.

Another fact from Sarah Ellis.

And I'll do this as a quiz question because I think it's sort of presented like that.

In parts of Australia, there will be two minutes in a day that last for a minute and a half each.

Why?

So I've seen the answer

came to the inbox, so I'm going to rule myself out.

Or I'll try and trick these others, actually.

Okay.

I'll say it's because Australia is so big, they have to stretch the minute.

Oh, that's a good idea, isn't that?

Yeah, I'm going to go for that.

Yeah.

Can I ask some follow-up questions?

Absolutely, yeah.

Great.

Is it just on one particular day or is it every day?

It's every day.

Right.

Could you say it one more time?

Yeah.

So in parts of Australia, there will be two minutes in a day, and those two minutes last for a minute and a half each.

Okay, okay.

Do we lose the other minute?

Because the number of minutes in a day presumably is the same as anywhere else.

So we've got an extra half-minute from each of those.

Have we lost that minute somewhere else?

Yes, ah, okay.

So, they've decided to do away with one of the minutes of the day.

Which minute would you lose?

What question?

I reckon I'd lose the minute of you talking about people spunking over mushrooms.

Why would you lose a minute?

Well, logically, you'd say the first or last minute would be a good one to lose.

Maybe the confusion of zero, zero, zero, like as in midnight, is it one day or is it the next day?

Bang on, is it?

Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely it.

It's a very it's a but where in Australia?

It's this is a bit too hard to get this podcast.

This is too hard to get.

We can get it.

You can't, well, it's a bit misleading.

In Australia, rather, what's it?

Sydney or Melbourne.

Have we heard of this place?

It's like it's not a place.

It's a, let's say it's a exact centre.

It's an institution.

Help me out, Andy.

Oh, with that.

Space Agency?

Australia?

GPS.

They're related.

Related to that, who invented GPS?

Who owned GPS?

NASA.

And the

Space Force.

And the American...

They've got big guns.

Army.

The army.

Wait a minute.

Is he still tricking us?

Slowly.

I think, is it the Army?

It's the Royal Australian Navy.

Oh, sorry.

So the explanation Sarah gives is that the Royal Australian Navy uses a 24-hour clock as opposed to 12-hour time.

24-hour time starts at 000 and it goes until 2359, as we all know, then resets.

Now, for some reason, they just don't like the 000 so what they do is they make the minute 2359 last a minute and a half and then when it flicks over it flicks over to 001 and that lasts for a minute and a half and then love that wouldn't it be amazing if you could lose i was just thinking about the minute of the day that i would lose and getting out of bed is the worst moment of the day right if you could lose the minute between when you're lying down and when you're standing up so you could just be like lying down and be like okay fine can i skip ahead a minute now and then you're standing up

That's a great premise for something.

A story or a film or something.

You have a button that you press and it just, I think that's great.

Thanks, Sandy.

And this is a published novelist here.

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Okay, it's time for the final facts of the show, and those are my ones.

So get ready, guys, because these are the really good ones, right?

These are the

creme de la creme.

So here is a great one.

This is from Derek Deyemann.

And he writes, I'm a train operator.

on the New York City subway.

And I noticed the most bizarre Shakespearean coincidence within the system that I want to share with you.

This is great.

The fact is, the Romeo train goes through the Montague Tunnel and the Juliet comes close but never gets to join it.

Okay, this is insane.

And I'm pretty sure this is Derek's generated fact.

I think he's the first person to notice this, which is so cool.

Okay.

So there are all these subway tunnels connecting Manhattan and Brooklyn, right?

One of them is called the Montagu Tunnel.

Presumably not named after the family and Romeo and Juliet.

No, it gets its name from the street that it runs underneath once it reaches Brooklyn, which is Montagu Street.

So in New York, the subway lines are, they just have

a letter or a number, you know, the A train, the B train.

It's not like alpha and beta.

Well, they do the phonetic alphabet.

So train crews on the R train call themselves Romeos, and train crews on the J train call themselves Juliets.

And the R train goes through the Montagu tunnel.

There are tracks which would allow the J and Z trains to also use the Montague Tunnel, but they aren't used in passenger service.

They both terminate just before the entrance to the tunnel.

So Juliet never gets to join Romeo through the Montague tunnel.

I just think that's great.

Brilliant.

So good.

Brilliant.

Well done.

Do you want to hear?

This is a great one.

This is an Australian one.

We're going to Australia soon.

This might be helpful.

From Will Davies from Emerald Beach, New South Wales.

Familiar to any of them?

Yeah, it's by the coast, I think.

I'll do this one as a riddle as well, actually.

The third largest airline in Australia does not charge its passengers to fly.

Is it?

So it's going to be animals that it's...

or some sort of freight or military

doctors?

Not freight, it's not James.

Has got it.

Flying doctors.

It was third largest by fleet size.

So I suppose that's not total passenger capacity, but like number of planes you've got because they're mostly quite small planes.

So yeah, it's the flying doctors, who I don't think we've ever spoken about.

No, no, how does, what are they?

Well, they're

as it sounds.

As it sends, but as in, what do you like?

If you call an ambulance in the outer backer, you've been hit by a kangaroo, then you call and a doctor has to get to you or something even less stereotypical than that.

I know one of the cogs went in my eye for my hat.

Lauru fell on me.

Yeah, that kind of

I guess because you you normally have just a paramedic go and then take them to a

some of these places are so remote and they're not very low but small populations and so you just need if you need a doctor within a couple of hours

the reason I actually knew about it is probably 10 years before Due South came out there was a TV show called The Flying doctors yeah which was i didn't really watch it but i knew that it was about this yeah yeah i used to watch it back home yeah it was a sort of staple of you know along with home and away and all that okay here's a bonus quiz this is something because i was reading a bit about the flying doctors yeah yeah

so they if they're landing in the dark

places they're flying to are not equipped with airports most of them right no no so that what they want is proper um sort of flares or electric lights on the runway to clearly mark out where they have to land at night.

So if you are landing somewhere which doesn't have those lights, what is the best alternative that the flying doctors like to use?

Pumpkins, fireflies,

bioluminescence,

you have to breed some phosphorescent shrimp to you chuck them out of the tags, you just throw the aquariums.

Every community under 20 people in Australia has millions of shrimps on standby in case someone breaks their leg.

No, it's

you are setting

up a really nice idea you are setting fire you are setting light to something what does every house have a

washing machine uh gold safe

it's dunny roll oh okay

what you do is you soak toilet rolls in diesel and you just line them along your impromptu runway and set fire to them and they burn for half an hour yeah right and the pilots can and if you can't do that if for whatever reason you've got to the end of your last roll maybe that's the crisis that you're calling the flying doctors for, then you have four cars with their headlights at the corners of your runway.

You just have to put on their headlights.

Very cool.

Flying doctors.

They're awesome.

Here's one from Henry Biggs.

Until the mid-1920s, Italians drove on both sides of the road.

Well, we all drive on both sides of the road because that'd be a complete waste of road.

Yeah, so you mean one way?

What?

It's not like you look at a road and only half of it's really used.

Oh, we're in pedantry cul-de-sac now.

They drove on the left and the right okay in the same direction thank you

uh why did they do such a thing well italy largely adopted driving on the right as law in 1912 but in some cities with tram networks drivers would have to switch to driving on the left as they approached the city center quite confusing you know what i once drove the wrong way round a roundabout in italy and they were very annoyed the people who were also on the roundabout but i should have just said i thought we were still in 1912

that would have calmed it down um yeah but weirdly they think the romans drove on the left so i looked into this a bit off the back of the yeah i think that's true isn't it so they look at the ruts in the road and stuff you've got it yeah i was oh that was going to be a little quiz oh i'm sorry no that's quite all right just forget okay dan and i forget you had that

i believe james doesn't even eat the quiz question at this point

he just comes in with the answer

um how do we know they weren't just always reversing though that's true well it was 1998 they worked out because there was a quarry near swindon An archaeologist found it and they found the ruts on the so if I'm looking at the quarry from a distance, right?

The ruts on the right-hand side of the road are deeper than the ones on the left.

So what they think is that carts were arriving lighter on the left because they're not weighed down and then they're weighed down with stones as they're leaving.

So the ruts are heavier.

So that's how they can tell which side of the road was driven on.

Very cool.

That's real ever.

That is amazing.

Great detective work.

One last one.

From Adam Wilson.

According to the leading piracy historian Marcus Redecker, more people have worked on the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise than there were ever actual pirates of the Caribbean.

And it's partly because the number of pirates was so small.

He reckons Marcus Redecker, who is a proper, he's a very eminent historian, that there were 4,000 total ever cumulative pirates.

I mean, imagine that, like 4,000 of them and what they have influenced.

Every child pretends to be a pirate.

Yeah.

Honestly, it's incredible.

4,000 people.

Wow.

And they are pretending to be golden age pirates.

Yeah, probably.

They're pretending to be 100 of those, right?

Most of them wouldn't have been army hearties.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

Yeah, 4,000.

I know.

And I presume the number of people who work on the,

I presume even the graphics department for one pirate's the guarantee.

Yeah, there have been about 4,000 of the films, I mean, that's true.

Yeah,

okay, that's it.

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Dan, you're on.

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James, you're on.

My Instagram is no such thing as James Harkin.

Lovely, Anna.

You can get in touch with the podcast as a whole by going to Instagram at no such thing as the fish, Twitter at no such such thing or emailing podcast at qi.com

and I'm at Andrew Hunter M on Twitter and if you enjoyed this kind of show slightly different format we actually have a club a secret private highly publicized members club it's called club fish it's so much fun for a few quid a month you get ad-free episodes and you get bonus content including drop us a line which is our audience feedback bit which is very funny it's it's it's not dissimilar to what you just heard No, the audience is funny in the podcast.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think it is.

It's really, it's, you know, I think a lot of the intellectual life is happening in, in Club Fish at the moment.

You know, it's the salon.

It's the sauna.

It's the sauna.

So whip off your wedding ring, pop your gold in the safe, and step on down.

That's on Patreon or Apple, and you can, you can get that at no suchthingasafish.com as well.

And if you go to our website, no suchthingasthafish.com, you can listen to previous episodes.

You can get tickets for our tour.

We are going on tour around the UK, Ireland, and Australia and New Zealand.

We are very excited about it.

It starts soon.

There are still some tickets left for some of the UK dates.

Australia and New Zealand is mostly sold out at this stage.

Gothenburg, Andy?

And we're going to Gothenburg.

We're going to Gothenburg for the book festival on the 27th of September.

That's going to be fantastic fun.

We're going to be doing a show there.

So if you live in continental Europe, that's your opportunity to see us.

And we'll be back again with another episode of this show next week.

We'll see you then.

Goodbye.

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