S2 Ep5: Little Fish: Now You Three Me

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Hello and welcome to an episode, episode number five in fact, of Little Fish. Little Fish is the show where you send in your best facts and we rip them to pieces or

and hopefully most of this this week, we tell you how great they are. And we've done a little bit more research on each one of them so we can tell you a little bit more if we found some.

So, let's have no further ado. Yep.
Andy, give us a fact. All right.
Izzy Turner writes in with a fact about the St. Anne's Church in Cork City.
Cork City. Beautiful city.
Yeah.

It makes it sound like a factory town, like, welcome to Cork City, son.

We make all the cork, but it's not, that's not it. You can't grow cork in Ireland.
Ah. Wrong climate.
So what's the...

Right, it's not about the etymology of the name cork,

but there will be a cork city somewhere. Yeah, Portugal.
Portugal.

Tunisia is a huge cork.

My understanding is Portugal is the world's largest exporter of cork. Interesting.

And the reason I think that is because I've been to Cork City, as in a city that makes corks, and I bought a cork bow tie from that city.

And if I ever have to wear a bow tie, I still wear the one that's made out of cork. I'm believing James.
I don't know why. What? Something about what he said.
And you know what?

With a cork bow tie, if you're ever

on a boat and accidentally fall overboard, that stuff floats. Well, there you go.
But it'll float so much that your neck will be out of the water. But unfortunately, your head will be somewhere.
Yeah.

It's just I'm Googling cork production stats. And I'm so sure that Tunisia has a higher cork production than Portugal.
Okay, I've Googled it and I don't want to talk about this anymore. Izzy's fact

is about St. Anne's Church in Cork City and all four clocks on the faces of the clock tower display a different time to each other.
Amazing. And the clock is known as the four-faced liar.

So none of them's right. I think they're all roughly right, but they're all different to each other.
Oh, so it's not like a London, Paris, Tokyo. No, it's all like 3.15, 3.19, 3.24.
It's like, yeah.

Question. So I have two people I know.
One of them's my wife, and the other one's Anna Toshinsky who regularly have their clocks set to the wrong time so that they're never late for things.

Oh, I do that too, yeah. You do that? Do you do that, Andy? My Casio naturally runs fast due to my body heat, but...

What? I don't remember that as part of Einstein's.

Because, you know, it's a quartz watch. It's got a wafer of quartz.

Inside. A wafer.
A wafer. Of course.
If you run an electric current through it, it vibrates a certain number of times per second.

And under warmer temperatures, it vibrates more. more does it and that means that your clock run your watch runs slightly fast so on a hot day your casio will gain

the truth i'm telling it

how much time like i'll set mine to maybe 10 minutes faster yeah you won't arrive suddenly gonna be arriving 10 minutes early for things on a warmer day you're running like microseconds ahead aren't you yeah but that's how i plan my time i'm very busy dan i have i have to do it to the microsecond

so anyway i looked up this clock basically the st anne's church in Cork City. And there's a tourist website I found which claims that this was the first four-faced clock until Big Ben was built.

Rubber.

I just can't believe it. I can't believe that we didn't have the technology of clocks with four sides on.

I know, think back. You're thinking about cathedral clocks and things, aren't you?

But they're often on the front of a building. Thinking, like, what's that tower in Warsaw? So that's got clocks on it.

Oh, yes, it has.

But maybe only two.

I don't know. I don't know.
I just, I think that's very interesting. Anyway,

I have one related fact. Can I crab in an extra audience first?

Matt Ireland wrote in, and actually we were talking recently about people with place names, surnames. Oh, yeah.
Matt Ireland.

He writes in with, in Beckles, in Suffolk, the church tower only has three clocks on its four sides.

The reason was when it was built, the people of Suffolk didn't want the people of Norfolk to know the time of day.

That's so good.

Getting our time for free, those cheapskates. That's very interesting.
It's funny. I think that Cork City is where they make Corks and Matt Island is the entire island where they make welcome matts.

Would you know what Cork Island? I've just quickly looked it up on the sly. What they are big producers of.
For the world. Oh, Cork.
The city of Cork. Yeah, the city.

Well, County Cork, yeah, Ireland. No, I don't know.
It is Viagra.

Oh, yes, the Viagra factory is down there. Are they? Because I remember there was a story that locals in the town were standing down wind of the Viagra

because it's like Charlie in the chocolate factory. He walks past the factory and he smells the amazing smells of the chocolate every day and he walks slowly.

And would you do that and slowly start bending over? And

you wouldn't get a golden ticket in your chocolate. I'm not sure what you would get.

Five golden Viagra pills.

The

lucky openers will receive a permanent erection.

Willie Wonker, more like. Oh my god.
Yeah. Yeah, carry up.
Willie Wanker. Yeah.

Okay. Jamie Thompson says, Dear fishmongers, he's given us the name fishmongers there.
Nice. Thought you might like this if you don't already know about it.

And he sent me a link to the Pentagon Pizza Theory. Now, I'm sure we all have heard of this before.
Yeah.

This is the idea that if something is going down on a mass scale with the government in America and the Pentagon need to get involved, they're going to have to put in long hours.

and so they're going to have to order in food. And it's been noted that there are certain times when there are huge orders of pizza for the Pentagon for these late night sessions.

So the idea is that if orders are spiking at any kind of pizza place near the White House or Pentagon, it means something is about to happen. Something's going on.
And can you leverage that?

Like, can you sort of short stocks?

There are websites that will look at the different pizza parlours and see how busy they are. Really? Yeah, the pizza meter.
It happened quite recently. I can't remember what it was for.

Maybe it's Israel. I thought there was this whole rumor that went around because suddenly Donald Trump disappeared for a weekend.
Everyone's like, is he ill? When he died, when he died,

exactly.

And so they were monitoring.

They were finishing putting the final touches to the Robo Trump. Yeah, yeah.

But it kept on making sense when it spoke.

Some people knew.

Come on, we don't want to have to make an apology or a one billion pound fine.

If you were trying to persuade people you weren't a super villain, would you sue for $1 billion?

Yeah, very true. Yeah,

that's a great theory. Yeah, wonderful theory.
And it is a theory.

It's why it has the word theory at the end.

I love it. Okay, I've got another one here from Matt Bromhead.

Matt says, my fact this week is that Patsy Klein, the first female artist to be inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame, used to give out her home phone number to fans in case they wanted to call her, which she did.

We kind of spoke about this recently with Amy Gledhill about Laurel and Hardy, which is that Stan Laurel used to give out his phone number and people would call him and he would just answer at home.

And that got cut from the final

actually. But yeah, he did do that after Hardy died.
Yeah. And so Patsy Klein used to.
Pats Klein is great. Patsy? Do you know her stuff? I don't really.
Anybody good? And she died very young.

She was 30 years old. It was a plane crash.
So she didn't have much time to carve out a full career.

I've got a couple of albums in my music app. A church, a courtroom, then goodbye is one of her songs.
Sounds sad. Yeah.
Well, that's good. That's yeah, that happens less and less these days.
But

what? Oh, phone numbers being given out. Oh, people dying in plane crashes.
Yeah, yes, that.

Okay, here's one from Tom Hayes. Tom says, former Lib Dem leader Ming Campbell once beat O.J.
Simpson in a 100-meter race. Amazing.

And it's true. That's what I can say.
Mink Campbell was an amazing runner in his time. And for international listeners, the Lib Dems are a big deal political party in the UK.
Yep.

And for non-American listeners, O.J. Simpson is a murderer.

Well, that lawsuit fell is

dinging away. But was he a runner as well?

O.J. Simpson, well, O.J.
Simpson was a football player, an American football player,

and he was also extremely fast, like a lot of them are. But Mink Campbell was a runner who captained the Scottish men's team at the 1966 Commonwealth Games in Jamaica.

He was known, according to Tom Hayes, as the fastest white man on the planet. Wow.

And I think he probably was. for some of the time.

He was at the 1964 Olympics, but lost in the second round. And the British relay team came in that Olympics.
But he gave up athletics in 1968, just before the next Olympics at Mexico City.

And the year earlier, he'd finished second to Tommy Smith in an indoor race in Sacramento. So do you know who Tommy Smith is? Yeah, but for anyone who doesn't...

So in the 1960s, Dan wasn't paying attention, otherwise he would have just been able to do that. I don't know who Tommy Smith is, no idea.

In the 68 Olympics, he was the guy who stood on the podium and did the black power salute. Oh, remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Ming Campbell should have been in that race by all accounts, but he gave up his career the year earlier to become a politician and a lawyer.

So in another reality, Campbell decides not to become a politician, beats Tommy Smith in the final of the 1968 Mexico City Olympics, and then Tommy Smith's never able to do his historic salute. Wow.

What a sliding doors moment.

I would love to see the movie movie of this event. Is it still sliding doors, though? Is the film still sliding doors? It's Gwyneth Paltrow and the politician from the Lib Dems.

Is it Gwynneth Paltrow playing Ming Campbell? Yes. Great.

Good.

Who else is in that movie? I can't even remember if it's Gwynneth Paltrow. It feels like it's Gwyneth Paltrow.
It's certainly John Hanna, I believe. Wow.
So is John Hanna playing Tommy Smith? He's RJ.

Going to be a challenging casting.

Woke will have need to have receded quite a bit for this film to to get made, I would say.

Well, great for you. But yeah, that was really good.
And I went into the newspaper archives and looked at the stories for when Mink Camball was around doing these races.

And yeah, he was basically all the Scottish newspapers were saying that he's the next fastest man in the world and Sassanaks need to believe it because, like, will he get into the British team or not?

Because maybe English will just put all the English runners in and stuff. How funny.
It's really interesting when you look back. Yeah, because it would would have been a weird headline.

Oh, great sprinter decides to go into politics. Well, he'll never go anywhere.
Actually, he's going to be the leader of the Lib Dems one day when he's extremely old. Yeah, still running.

Still running. Brilliant.

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Okay, here's one from Jake Clements

who writes, my wife Katie has been taking a course in landscape gardening and came across a particular type of bramble and hasn't stopped giggling at the Latin name. It's called a cockburnianus.

Now, I would pronounce that Coburnianus

because it's named after the Coburn family, but Coburn is spelled Cockburn.

And yeah,

I tried to find out more about it.

There was a blog that said I've been trying to find out who among the Coburn family was being honored by William Botting Helmsley when he named this newly discovered species, but without success.

But I think I've worked out who it probably was. I I think it was probably Henry Coburn, who served in China for 25 years as British Consul General.
Okay.

Because this is a

bramble that's found in China.

Well, that's great. So I'm pretty certain it's that person.
Not 100% certain, but yeah. Has the name sort of limited the Bramble's popularity? You know what?

Brambles, I think, don't have as much popularity as you might imagine.

Oh, you go to any garden centre and there'll be an extensive bramble section.

Like a rose or a dahlia.

I think another bramble.

I have brambles in my garden. Do you? Yeah, yeah.
Do you grow? Are they blackberry?

They have, I think it's blackberries, yeah, some kind of berries on there. Do you know what? I don't know what a bramble is.
I've just realised.

My whole life, I've been casually referring to brambles. I don't know what they are.
What is a bramble? Well, to me, it was always just a spiky bush, but I guess there's some kind of other botanical.

Don't write in. Don't write in.

And apologies apologies to my wife for last year's anniversary flowers.

I see now that that was not romantic.

What year is the Bradbull anniversary?

It's the last year, always. It's the Cockburnianus years.

The Cockburnianus years is an amazing name for an American sitcom from the 1980s, isn't it? That's the final Adrian Moll book.

My turn, this is from Drew Ferguson. According to the International Union for Conservation of Nature, they have a conservation list.
The least weasel is currently considered to be of least concern.

What about the most weasel?

So just hanging in. Andy mentioned this on a podcast recently.
Did I? Yeah. I can't remember what it was, but it's definitely something I've edited recently.
Have you edited it out? No. Oh, dang.

Oh, sorry.

Maybe it just came to me in the moment and I forgot I'd earmarked it. I think you might have said that someone sent it in.
Oh, there we go. Who sent it in? Drew Ferguson.
Well, thank you, Drew.

Double mention for you. Well actually I don't think you mentioned his name the first time.
Single mention for you Drew but your fact has been on twice. Really good.

Here's one from Soam Mukherjee. Brackets NB email is so old the fact may have changed.
I think that's some commentary from you Andy. Yep.

So this person said after staying up late on Wednesday to watch don't know which Wednesday it was. Could have been any Wednesday in the last five years.

To watch United, and he's talking about Man United, Manchester United, lose away to Grimsby Town, 12-11 on penalties.

Going to work the next morning was probably the worst thing that's ever happened to me.

Anywho, it turns out that after this result, Grimsby Town, currently in the 4th division of English football, are now unbeaten against Manchester United for nearly 100 years, last losing in 1946.

Wow. In that time, they have only played three matches with Grimsby winning two and drawing one.

So nice facts if you like football. If you don't like football, imagine what the headlines might have been for Grimsby beating Man United.
So Grimsby is a very famous area for making fish

or fishing.

What might they have gone for? I saw this in a tweet by Martin Samuel, the journalist.

So can you guess what the headlines were when Grimsby beat Man United in this amazing game? And they're a big fishing town, so that's

a clue. It was a clue? Cod Almighty.
Very close. Same pun, slightly different phrase.

Cod.

Where is your cod now?

I'm going to give it to you. Act of COD.
Active Cod. Cod is very good.
And the other one was something you might say about a football team when they've been beaten. They're in a bad place.

Very good, but no.

They think it's all over now.

It is trout.

They think it's all over. It is trout.
Final answer. The answer is battered.

Anyway, I did some googling about other football teams who have got good records against Man United. MK Dons

have never lost against Manchester United in their entire history, which admittedly is very short because they're a franchise who kind of took over another football team.

But they've had one win 4-0, and Southend United have never lost against Man United. They've had one win of 1-0.
If you beat them once, you're just like, well, we're never playing Man United again.

Yeah, that was like when I used to play chess and my brother got better than me i beat him once i said right that's it that is so child

i was a child

four nils is a battering very good um unfortunately that was mk duns who did that and milton keynes is not a very famous fishing character milton keynote they really sent them roundabout the houses very good lovely yeah yeah yes uh okay i'll do one here this is from phil phil p says 1918 in the uk there was a chinese magician who became quite famous named chung ling su

He was quite old, spoke no English. On stage, though, he got shot trying to perform the bullet catch trick.

Shocking as it was, his dying words shocked the audience even more when he said, lower the curtain, something went wrong.

And so he had been playing this character. It's a very famous character within the World of Magic, William Ellsworth Robinson.
And yeah, he basically... That was his real name.
That was his real name.

And he basically created a character that was an old Chinese magician who would do amazing tricks on stage but if anyone has seen the movie The Prestige it's

used as an example of how a magician's act extends beyond yeah I know Andy's

sorry the listener doesn't see this but Andy just rolled his eyes in such a way it's a ridiculous film he's got a big old nolan issue I once asked my wife to read me out the plot of the prestige during a long car journey so that I could be annoyed about it we were stuck in traffic and I was driving

annoyed enough by the traffic.

I needed an edge. Do you know what I unironically love is the

Now You See Me movies? I've watched it like 10 times in the last month.

Okay,

that's a trick that they pulled on you.

I actually really, really love that. Because it's magicians who do a con.
Yeah, usually.

They're four magicians who are brought together and they don't know why, but there's a big magic idea for them to pull off this ultimate thing, but they don't know who they're working for, and they slowly have to complete this.

And then are they good? Because I've seen, are there two of them, these films?

Well, a third one comes out, um, came out a couple of weeks ago, but actually, when we're recording this, comes out on Friday. Is the is the third one called Now You Three Me?

No, it's called Now You Don't or something. That's a terrible.
I think my main problem with those films is the names because it's Now You See Me, which is a good title for a magic film.

It should have just been called Now You Don't, the second one. Absolutely.
But instead, it was called Now You See Me Too. Yeah.
That's a bad title. Yeah.

And then the third one is called Now You Don't, when that should have been the second. It makes no sense.
It should have been Now You See Me, then Now You Don't, then Now You Three Me.

Yeah, I think we'll think of something for the fourth film. Yeah.
Unless this is a cleverly planned misdirection. The second title, the third title, it's all going to make sense in the fourth.

That'll be it. I can't believe you've watched them so much over the last fortnight.
That's it.

That's mad. They were just good to have in the background while I needed to do other stuff.
You know, it's a good mastery.

Woody House and he's just got something about him. Okay, well, on that note,

I think we've come to the end of your facts. So we're going to go to some of our old facts and we're going to dish them out to people who are members of the friend of the podcast here on Patreon.

So drum roll, please, everyone.

Well, that was okay, Andy, but I might add it in post. Let's hear the first person who is a friend of the podcast.
Yeah, okay.

Here is a fact and Luc LaDrois. Luc LaDrois.
It's a brilliant name. I'm sorry if I'm saying it wrong.
But anyway, Luc, it's your fact.

And it's that a computer game has been invented that takes more than a lifetime to complete.

This was a James Harkin.

Yeah, and the idea was that you could play the game and then you could pass your high score on to your descendants. You could then continue the game.

And it was the idea, i mean quite a long time ago we did this fact it was the idea of like digital currency and how that will go when you die because we know what happens to your money when you die but what happens to your your digital self

we could have invented crypto

bro could have invented we could have because this would be 2014 was that where was crypto

bitcoin had been invented but

imagine if during that show we'd researched it and found out there's a thing called bitcoin and told all of our listeners about it. And everyone bought one Bitcoin.

All of our listeners, we could be selling Friend of the Podcast for 50 grand times.

Did we ever mention this guy who someone who bought in something like 2010? I think Bitcoin had been a mentioned a while ago.

He bought a couple of pizzas. for something like 10,000 Bitcoin.

He would have been a billionaire several times over today if he'd just not done that and now papa johns is who they are

anyway luke that's your fact now to to safeguard and shepherd and keep forever and maybe you can play the in fact why not play the game yeah you'll have to go back to episode number seven to find out what it was uh dan can you give us another one yep this one is for jakob and uh the fact is that 2013 was the first year since 1933 that there hasn't been a sighting of the loch Ness monster.

Oh, do you know what's happened since then? There's been plenty of sightings.

Well, interestingly, it was the very nature of releasing a headline like that, which this was in the papers at the time, that spurred people on to claim and send in photos and say that they're...

Is it not the fact that basically they had lots of sightings while cameras were really shit for about 50 years?

And suddenly everyone had a phone and cameras got really good. And then there stopped being sightings.
And then Photoshop was invented and suddenly there were loads of sightings again.

It's been tough. There is a theory

when you can't pass off a leaf floating on the water.

There is a theory that what if it's not that those photos were always blurry, but what if say the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot themselves are blurry?

So that's one of the counter arguments to that.

And it's a devastating counter argument. What if they're all former members of the IRA and they have to be blurred every time they're on screen? And their voices have to be done by out-of-work actors.

Yes. Yeah.

That's an excellent theory. Okay.
Well, Jakob, congratulations. No guessing whose fact that was when it was originally said.
That was mine.

Okay, I've got one from Anna here, which is now under the custodianship of Mark Osborne.

And Mark, your fact is that the French government forced Madame Tussaud to make models of her friend's decapitated heads.

A bit of a macabre one there for Mark. Yeah.
Mark Macabre, more like. Very good.

I want you guys to know that I would do that for you. You would make models of our decapitated heads.
For the people whose heads have been decapitated. It was for their enemies.

I just want you to know that I would make models of your decapitated heads. Would you? If I was forced to by the government.
Right.

I just want you guys to know that I would do that for you. I'm sorry.
I thought you'd react better to it. I'm no, I'm wondering in what genre of model, like a puppet head, like a

wax work. We've already got puppets of the four of us.
The job's done, mate. The job's done.
Do you want that to be your model in perpetuity, though? Yeah. Do you? I mean, you can't.

I'm fairness, it looks more like Dan than Dan looks like Dan. Why don't we just get Don music from Sesame Street?

Look it up.

No, but I would do that for you guys. Thank you.
I do appreciate that. But I feel like you don't have the requisite training on modeling heads.

And possibly the heads that you make of me, Dan, and Anna might not be exactly true to life. Yeah.
That's a fair point. Why are you doing it? What's in what situation are you imagining?

The government is forcing me. I don't know.
I think... So was it...
Why was she being forced to make models of her friends' heads? Was it that they wanted to commemorate the friends? No,

they've been... Decapitated.
They were enemies of the revolution. Oh, so it was like, look, here are the enemies of the revolution.
And here's what they suffered.

But Madame Tussaud was friends with those people, but instead she wasn't killed because she hadn't done anything really bad, but they forced her to make the heads, which it wasn't like dopierre your next-door neighbor it was it was prominent people

yeah well you guys are prominent people

you're prominent in the podcast world andy before you dig yourself any deeper into this mad and two sword shaped hole why don't you tell us about the next custodian of a fact okay hello todd norbery you are getting a fact

which i would say is one of my faves of all time during the normandy landings the allied forces deployed dogs by parachute

Do you remember the days when we used to have parachuting animals in every episode? It was a happy time in my life. I love this fact so much.

In fact, it might have been the first feet to touch the ground in the Normandy landings were dog feet, really.

Wow. Because they were German shepherds and they were...

Was that to trick the Germans into thinking that they were on their side?

Or because they could speak German?

They could say surrender

in the German language.

I was about to say in the local language but of course the local language was French which was the whole problem in many ways

you know what I'm saying yeah are we saying that the whole problem of the Second World War was that French people were living in France no I'm saying because that's short and it sounded like I'm saying the presence of the German army in France was one of the problems of the Second World War.

Oh, that was a problem. That was a problem.
That was a big problem. That was.
We're not one of those podcasts.

You can find them elsewhere on the podcast store, all right?

There are plenty now anyway these were german shepherds and they were and they were parachuted in to help with the normal day landings and uh be the kind of first dogs on the ground yeah kind of what they did now might have just been barking orders brilliant oh it's so nice when you get a second bite at the cherry 11 years later

uh dad give us another one okay i got one here this is a this is an interesting one this is an interesting fact to be a custodian of uh because it's been 11 years and sometimes facts that we've said have uh been looked into more and we discover that they're not strictly as true as we thought they were when we first said them.

So this is a fact that is going to ARJG and the fact is that the music track on the anti-piracy advert used on all DVDs was itself pirated.

Lovely facts. Great fact.
You know that

it would be a sort of, you wouldn't steal a handbag, you wouldn't steal a car. It was this big ad.
And the story was at the time that this had been itself pirated.

I believe I got it from an Australian scientist who's been on no such thing as a fish, Carl. Dr.
Carl. Dr.
Carl got it from one of his books.

I think it was a, there are slightly disputed versions of events. Some people say the music was used without permission.
That has been a bit disputed because there was a different anti-pirate.

There was a different anti-piracy ad, which definitely did use stolen music.

So that did happen. And also there were questions about whether they'd licensed the typeface.
Yes, it was kind of a

nightmare. All we know for sure is that it caused an absolute massive upsurge in people stealing handbags.

Okay, here is another fact. This one is under the custodianship of Louisa Biviano.

And Louisa, your fact is... Oh, it's one from Alex Bell.
It's his first ever fact on the podcast.

And it is that one of the last things that NASA had to do before launching space shuttles was remove their inflatable owls. Nice.
So that was Alex Bell's fact.

It is now under your custodianship, Louisa. Congratulations.
Fantastic. And they used these inflatable owls to scare away other smaller birds, didn't they? Yeah, I think it was like hawks as well.

I think it was, it was, yeah, it was flying animals and it worked. And I guess mice? Possibly.
I mean, I don't know how much. Big burglars who are afraid of owls.

It's awful when you get downstairs to the space shuttle in the morning and it's gone and you feel like such an idiot and you realize it's been burgled and you spend a while looking like, oh, maybe I parked it in the next space along.

And it's just not. I've had that situation.
Yeah. It's a kicker.

Okay, we're going to have two more, I think. So, Andy, why don't you give us one now? I'll do one.
This one goes out to Craig Taylor. Congratulations, Craig.

Because your fact is this zinger is that according to the government of the Czech Republic, there are three symbols of Easter: Easter eggs, the Easter lamb, and whipping.

Being whipped. Yeah.

And that was because whipping was like a tradition, wasn't it? Yes. That they did.
Like young boys would go around whipping young girls or something. It was a different time.
It was a different time.

But yeah, I mean, that was one of those facts where I didn't know for sure because I'm not Czech and I didn't have anyone in the Czech Republic to check with, so to speak.

But that's why you said according to the government, because it was on the government website. Yeah, that's right.
So yeah, I mean.

Was the country still the Czech Republic then or had it become Czechia? I do believe that the government has recently said, if you don't really want to call it Czechia, we don't mind.

That's a Bosch rebrand, isn't it?

That's embarrassing. Yes.
I just, I think that's really interesting that we've now been going so long that that's changed. Wasn't there another country? Wasn't it?

What are those two inside South Africa?

Swaziland? Yeah. Oh, Eswatini.
Eswatini. Yeah, which used to be Swaziland, is now Eswatini.
It's because of esports, isn't it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like getting in that brand name.
Turkey has changed its name to Turkey but spelt differently. Has it? Yeah.

I didn't know that.

Oh, you've not been spelling it the old-fashioned way, have you? How embarrassing. Oh, no.
Oh, dear. Oh, no.
What is it now? Is it sort of Turkey, yes? It's Turkey, yeah, yeah.

Oh, no, and I've been going around spelling it turkey. Yep.
Oh, no. Oh, God, we've been eating turkey at Christmas.
Oh, you're still allowed to spell that the old way. Oh, no.

We've been eating turkey at Christmas.

Okay, one last fact before we wrap up for today, Daniel Schreiber. Yep, this comes from Anna Toshinsky and Matt G.S.
This now belongs to you.

At Earl's Court Tube Station in 1911, a one-legged man was employed to ride the escalator. His name was Bumper Harris.

That was also a classic of the time. Classic.
A classic fact. Yeah.

Bumper Harris. And he was hired.
He was hired, wasn't he, to show that it was safe. Even if you were one-legged, it was not a scary thing to...

Because there must have been someone who was the first ever person to go on an escalator. Yeah.

They couldn't know it wouldn't eat them. And there are descriptions of people.
In fact, I think I said this at the time on the podcast at Stratford International Mall.

I was constantly, as I was going down the escalators, there would be people on there who clearly, and they're like in their 70s, were going on for the very first time and not knowing and almost falling on you and stopping at the bottom, not knowing to move.

It was wild. I got to watch what the Bunker Harris world was experiencing.
So for hours on end, you used to sit there laughing at those old people.

Get a few tins of beer,

sit in your camp chair.

I reckon there'll still be a couple of billion people who've not had a chance to go on an escalator yet on Earth alive today, I would say. Absolutely.

I mean, so many people lack electricity, you know, which is one of the very few diesel-powered escalators, I'm guessing.

Yeah, no, sorry,

there are no nuclear ones that I know of. Well, if you are a maker and distributor of nuclear-powered escalators, then do write into podcast at qi.com.

And indeed, if you want to write in with anything, do write into podcast at qi.com.

If you want to speak to the rest of us individually, you don't want Dana Randy to hear what you have to say to me, then I can be found on Instagram at no such thing as James Harkin. Dan?

yeah, I'm on at Schreiberland and I'm on at Andrew Hunter M. I didn't even need to ask you.

My name's Andy,

and more can be found about the podcast at no sixthingersafish.com. We will see you for another little fish next week.
Other stuff in the meantime. Goodbye.

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