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We should, you know, we should do what we always do when we're waiting for Katie to show up.

We should do what we always do when she's running late, which is let's talk about our kids.

Let's get that out of the way.

How's Nino?

How's Nino doing?

What are his measurables?

Huge still.

I keep waiting for him to get smaller and it's not happening.

In fact, our latest weigh-in, he actually went up to 93rd percentile.

What are you feeding him?

What's he like into food-wise these days?

He's into everything, which is great, but he eats really what we eat.

But I am not trying to be cocky about it because I have heard too many horror stories of, and you can weigh in here, obviously,

babies who were like, parents who were like, oh, our child loves like, you know, Sichuan food and like escargot.

And then all of a sudden they turn two and they only want chicken fingers.

So I am not overconfident.

I am, I'm enjoying this period where we can take him to restaurants while he lasts, while it lasts, part of me, but I have no compunctions about it going on forever.

Yeah, like Violet loves grilled cheese.

Like that's a 99% success rate.

But also sometimes you just won't want to eat it.

There's one thing I have noticed with our kid.

He just likes food when it's better.

Like he vastly prefers restaurant food.

We take him to restaurant, he eats everything.

And then when we're home and Nick like makes him something in the moment, like grills some salmon, he will eat it.

When we are in a hurry and we'll like reheat stuff like frozen meatballs, he'll like be like,

nah, nah.

Which is funny because, like, that I guess that means he's like an adult, right?

Well, it's the opposite of like the typical child psychology thing of like they like playing with the cardboard box more than they like what's in it.

Like, Nino has fancy tastes, Nino is ordering like from the bottom of the menu up.

He's looking at the prices.

If I want to be clear here, I do not believe my child has a uniquely sophisticated palate.

I think, um,

yeah, like, have you ever like,

so how do we feel about while we're on this topic when people do like IG posts about their child, but like long, like, like,

dear Cassandra, you're four today.

I can't, I can't handle that.

You love early Miles Davis

and grilled cheese, but only with Gruyere.

And I'm feeling like, well, why are you trying to make your child sound like sophisticated, right?

Just, you know,

honestly, any Instagram post that's in like the second person,

that's a thing.

It's a thing, right?

You'll do it.

Yeah, it's like you're a Civil War general writing to.

I may be full disclosure, I may be related to some people who do this, and I can't.

I definitely have people in my life.

I'm nervous about putting this out there into the universe.

Yeah, everyone's like compiling like a beautifully, like intentionally crafted and tattered scrapbook.

Oh, hello.

My main objection is just the

positioning of your, it's like making your dating profile.

I know it's talking about the the child where you're trying to make them sound more interesting than they really are like if there was honest it would be like dear Nino like

you love

on everything

you are passionate about loud noises right like you're not like yes dear Violet like bright neon colors dear violet you never wipe your hands after you eat and you like drying those same hands on our leather sofa which your father admits was a terrible investment in retrospect, given your personal disrespect for it.

Hey, how's everybody feeling?

I'm dressed like Parappa the Rappa today.

I was going to say, you do look like a boombox holding panda.

Is that what Parapappa is?

Sometimes I feel something like that.

Sometimes I just feel like this is right.

And then you leave the house and you're like, it was wrong.

But you look like you make YouTube videos for children right now.

And I pretty much, don't we all?

Parappa was a dog,

I'm informed.

But with black ears and white, it was white and black eyes.

Yeah, had like a winter beanie, which is what completed the outfit.

I did take it off before I got on camera, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We were talking about our.

I didn't watch any of this.

Yeah, but we're done now.

We promise.

Do you watch Miss Rachel?

Is that what we were chatting about?

Everybody loves Miss Rachel.

Miss Rachel.

She's the big dog.

Pablo.

What?

Yeah, what are you talking about?

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

Miss Rachel.

This is the cinematic, the Sesame Street cinematic universe.

Katie, there's a guy in Miss Rachel's crew who looks exactly like Pablo.

Show her the guy.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Show her the guy.

He's a Filipino guy.

Okay, so whenever Mina says this guy looks like you, I start off offended and then begrudgingly admit that she's right.

Right.

So I'm going to Google Miss Rachel Filipino guy.

It's going to come up immediately.

Let me see.

Show me.

Show me to me, Rachel.

If I grew like a...

I mean, hot Pablo.

We got to stop doing that.

That's hot Pablo.

We got to stop inventing hotter me's.

We got to stop labeling

the Gary Streiskies of the world.

The only person I've banned from this program for being a little.

Yeah.

Hablo.

I regret this episode already.

No, you don't.

I do.

I have missed this.

We haven't done this since the pandemic.

The three of us?

I think so.

I mean, certainly on this show, I think we've certainly seen each other in life.

Yeah.

Of course.

Again, we talk about our kids and then you show up late and we pivot.

Because I like to miss miss that part.

It's on purpose.

It's by design.

Get that shit out of the way.

Should we start with

a very visual game or do you want to get into some of the stories that I think we're all legitimately into?

I just did mine.

You're in the same outfit.

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For all of us to like and subscribe.

Not on YouTube.

Everybody's very mad about it.

I've not been invited.

I've merely just been waiting.

Mean is

awkward because I'm booked.

Mean is booked.

I am unbooked and unbusy.

Oh, shoot.

I'll make sure that we fix that.

Well, that's now very sad.

Katie, what did you bring us?

I brought an article from The Atlantic because I'm fancy.

I'm a fancy lady who reads The Atlantic.

It was about how we're not partying enough.

Basically, you know, a conversation we've been having a lot is about how people don't have friends or we're not seeing each other ever since the pandemic or all these other various cultural factors are affecting how often we're seeing and interacting with our social circles.

And this piggybacks off of that and says that America is in a party deficit.

They cite the fact that Party City is closing, a place where you get all of your

evidence.

Oh, no, it's a massive story.

It's a massive story.

In fact, can I just explain how massive this story is?

Because I was looking for the news coverage of Party City's demise, and we did find this.

It appears the party is over for Party City.

The party is over for one business that specializes in just that.

Parties.

The party's over for Party City.

The party's over for a popular supply store.

And we have breaking news.

The party is over for retailer Party City.

The company told corporate employees on a call today the business would be winding down operations immediately after nearly 40 years and today would be their last day of work.

The largest supplier of mylar balloons, disposable plates, other things that we need.

Streamers.

Done.

Done.

After 40 years.

The party, you could say,

is over.

Okay, so I think this article is interesting.

I will say the party city as it's closing as announced.

That's like it's a part of it.

Who has ever thrown an adult party and gone to party city?

It's honestly purely the provenance of children's events and goodie bags.

Yeah, it's like goodie bags where you go to get all the little stuff to put in a bag that nobody's going to want.

How dare both of you?

Yeah, we did, though.

I don't know where you get balloons anymore.

Only 4.1% of Americans attended or hosted a social event on an average weekend or holiday in 2023.

This is a 35% decrease

since 2004.

I mean, look,

there are a lot of articles, Dow, where it's like, did you know that only 1.7% of Americans have smiled this year?

And it's like,

people stop smiling.

But this is an article that resonates because

the whole notion of people throwing parties for each other has like objectively declined.

It's happening less and less.

And we are, Mina, you are headed to the party capital of the sports world very soon.

Yeah.

Super Bowl week is a big,

big party week.

For me, I am definitely bringing down that average because I don't go to many parties anymore.

I don't think you guys can speak to your own experiences outside of children's parties, which are beginning to happen, which is a whole separate thing.

Children's parties, though, I got to say, and Pablo, you could speak to this more.

They're really adult parties because you've seen in LA as such.

Everybody now has to go to every party, Katie.

That's different.

So when we were kids, it was like, ooh, like a big, like, who's invited?

You got to invite all the kids.

Now everybody's got to go to everybody.

And it's a trophy.

Yeah.

Which means every weekend, you just see the same parents and you sit around drinking beers at like 3 p.m., watching your children just like rip each other apart.

And I got to say, I love it.

My husband and I were talking about this.

We're like, this is the dream.

We're just sitting around making small talk with like a set designer from Pasadena, having some, you know, hard seltzers, eating their home state tacos.

I love it.

But the Super Bowl thing is a big deal for me because I don't go to like late night drinking type parties, except for like three times a year at the Super Bowl, the Combine, and the draft, which are unfortunately in succession.

So it's like a very intense, it's like the closest thing in my life to like those Alabama sorority rush weeks where by the end my liver is like

because I'm so unused to partying that hard.

My philosophy on the children's birthday party, first of all first of all,

either you got to make it under an hour or like an hour or less, or it needs to be equipped for parents to just hang out and talk.

And I am so appreciative for these like,

what do you call them?

Like these like bouncy floored, like, oh, you can have the kids just like run around like tornadoes and

then we're done.

Yeah, and then and then we're done

But the thing about like the party as an institution is that it seems like even the young people are wondering there was again the anecdotal evidence here six months ago on Reddit Someone asked one of the quote saddest questions anyone ever seen on the social platform Which was quote Did anybody else think there would be more parties question mark end quote and the way we grew up and the movies we see yeah i i feel like that's that's

it it feels like that is not happening in the way that the tv shows had promised us yeah like i feel like in my ideal world it's um

in a lot of ways it isn't like this but it's like mad men you know those that party he throws where they've got that like Remember in that era, the like sunken in living rooms that have like the little step down and everybody just has a little cocktail.

Yeah, and it's just like sitting in chat.

That's my dream is if socializing meant everybody just came to my house and we just sat around and like watched and talked and mingled but i also just feel like and maybe this informs what's happening or maybe this is just uh my mental illness but i feel like inviting somebody over

especially in new york city is a cop-out by me.

I feel like it's me being like, won't come to my house?

It's like, no, of course they don't.

They're in New York City.

They want to go out to a bar or a restaurant or a, and I'm like, well, just come over to my house.

A hundred?

and like sit around and watch like sports and control the volume ourselves and like order some food and hang out but that feels like an um

I don't know that feels like a cheap

it's like get up get dressed leave Katie get out of the house but I would love if people we I'd throw a party every week if you guys would come over I would come over I love house parties So but okay, so the house party, I should say, because I grew up in New York.

You've never really

a fucking thing.

Like not a So much about New York apartments is that they're too small to have people over.

And so my view of like the house party really was just like, when I got to college, I got a sense of like, oh, it's what this is what that's like.

But I never actually experienced or hosted anything or attended anything like that.

Never, never.

No one's parents were back in the driveway, and we had to rush to

me.

There were no driveways.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I grew up in a major house party high school culture.

Not that I I was invited to many of them.

You have to throw them.

Your parents have to go away.

You have to throw them.

And then everyone shows up and they still don't talk to you.

That's my experience.

So they're just here for the house.

Speaking of that, they're just there for the house.

Once, one weekend, when I went to Washington, D.C.

to be a presidential scholar, my parents went with me.

And my brother.

famously threw like the biggest house party our town had ever seen at our house.

And it was like

the kind of house party that people talk about for years, like da-da-da.

And he, so my brother was all cool with me.

He took photos of everything in the house.

He hired professional cleaners.

So we come home and it's like nothing has happened.

So my parents come home from this like nerd thing I went to with me and we're walking through the house and my mom, sometimes she's just like, Something's off.

And she noticed like the smallest, tiniest difference, something had been moved.

And my brother cracked immediately when she called him out on it.

I recently did wonder while I was just

unable to sleep one night recently, like, could I recreate my entire living room from memory?

No.

I could not.

No.

I could not.

No, our memories are shit.

Oh, so the point, my point was partying.

We need to do it more.

Well, that's the takeaway from this article is that like if we all threw two parties a year, that's the action item, America would be in a better place.

Yeah.

Lucky for you, my birthday is next week.

So get started.

Are you going to have a party?

I don't think so.

I don't know.

I am,

look, I've haven't worked in a while and I'm working a bunch now.

So I'm like, I don't know.

If we're going to have a party, it's just going to have to happen to me.

I'm not going to be, I haven't put any thought into it.

But

I do throw myself a birthday party every year.

You should.

Everybody should.

I think it's like an excuse to bring your friends, even if they're not all friends with each other necessarily.

It's like a, this is, this is my favorite part about adult parties.

If I'm the organizer is watching people from different worlds

speak to each other and like

very, yeah, that I enjoy.

Are you renting like a venue?

Some I have in the past.

I'll get like a room at a bar or I, but we do house parties for me.

A couple years ago, before I got pregnant, rager.

Absolute rager.

I've never been to a party yet.

I was at a wedding recently with Mina and she got hammered.

Nice.

I love that

irrelevant story.

It's a relevant, it's entirely irrelevant.

It's not one topic where it is relevant.

No, it's not because it's not, it wasn't really a party.

It was a wedding.

Weddings are different.

Weddings are the ultimate party.

But it's like they're not really, they're a separate thing.

They're the rest of the.

There's one thing I did, by the way, that tells you that you have no evidence.

How'd you know she was hammered?

Because I was talking to her.

And she was saying.

And she said, I knew I was talking like this.

That's not how I sound.

Damn, slurred.

No, no.

If anything, I am incredibly nice and overly complimented.

They can't stop my home.

No, that's not how I sound.

They're trying to go too deep.

They're trying to do too deep.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

What?

I don't know.

That's a horrible impression, first of all.

Secondly, if anything, I was like, Babo, you're doing great.

Everything's great.

Pabo, we don't say it enough to do it, man.

I do love you.

I'm so proud of you.

I'm so proud of you.

I'm so sure it was closer to that.

There was a lot of

slurred positive reinforcement.

Yeah.

Now that I think about it.

That's great.

That's ideal.

People would pay for that from Mina Khan.

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Mina, what did you bring us clear-headedly to discuss today?

Um,

so it's not one story, it's obviously just more like a broader news story that's being written about a great deal.

But I'm curious to hear guys's thoughts on the TikTok ban, uh,

which, as of this recording, TikTok is available because the president uh of the United States signed an executive order basically delaying the banned uh the ban, pardon me.

It's unclear to me, even after reading about 20 articles, what is legal and what's not in terms of whether or not he can actually stop it, because this was something that Congress passed a law, the Supreme Court, by the way, like just to

for folks who haven't followed, I guess I should lay out the reason why

Congress did so is this belief that a foreign government shouldn't control like a major U.S.

media outlet.

It's less about actually propaganda and more about their ability to collect information.

And you can collect a whole lot of information on people based on TikTok usage.

And the crazy thing that happened too is like we live in a world which Congress doesn't agree on anything.

The Supreme Court doesn't agree on anything.

It was like unanimous, right?

So both sides of the aisle were like, yeah, this seems bad.

The Supreme Court was like, yeah, this is probably a bad idea.

So just, that's the

backstory for people who don't know.

Oh, but

it was Trump's idea originally.

Was it exactly right?

He's not the first person who came out and was like, I think we should ban this.

45th president.

Right.

And then 47, very much in disagreement.

Now he saved it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, and so now he likes it because, and we've asked about it.

He likes it because he's like, young people love it, and I'm popular on there.

A reporter asked him at a press conference, why did you change your mind about TikTok?

And Trump's quote was, because I got to use it.

And remember, TikTok is largely about kids, young kids.

If China's going to get information about young kids, I don't know.

I don't think it's going to be a problem.

To be honest, I think we have bigger problems.

We do have bigger problems.

I do not know what to do.

I mean, not wrong.

Not wrong.

Yeah, actually, also incoherent.

Well, that, for me, that was kind of like, in some ways, my experience of this story over the last week was

I was a little, first I was a little bit put off.

I'm like...

put off by the fact this was like the biggest story in America on a moment when things that I felt were much more significant were happening other executive orders other things.

But, you know, I think as I've kind of read more, or not read more, but thought more about it, I do think it

setting aside the legality aspect of it,

I would like to hear your guys' thoughts on,

I don't know, whether you think it's like a bad or a good thing, I guess, if it goes away.

Katie.

Yeah, I'm

among us are clearly the most power user.

And I have like, I have like 9,000 like disparate thoughts on it that like don't all I so number one I think a lot of the narrative about TikTok is like it's just stupid dances and I feel like we are glossing over a lot of the value that tick tock provides like I feel like people were very oh I don't use tick tock I'm not I'm not a child I'm not dancing on the internet and it's like well there's a lot of people

there's a lot of people who like uh run businesses on tick tock there's a lot of like interesting commentary on tick tock um

musicians that you would never have heard of that you know now because of tick tock like it's it it is what it is it's a it's a social media app it is a center for brain rot but it is also like it's it has its let's not like plain paint it with a broad brush and say that it's just like garbage like it's

they all are then in that case do you agree that tick tock and its popularity is rooted in this branding that it's the one social media app where you actually tend to feel good.

Like that seems to be, it's joyous.

I think the comment sections, in my experience, tend kinder.

I think when they're mean, they can be very mean.

But I do think my first reaction when I was first started scrolling through TikTok was that, like, whoa, the comments are like hyping this person up instead of bullying them.

I will also say it's a place where, like, I know that the government's issue with it mainly, as you said, Mina, wasn't the propaganda aspect of it, but it is is a place where you can hop on and share your opinion.

And it's possible your opinion is being influenced by these opinions that are being put out there by people that have nefarious means.

You can see how it could be used, as any media could be used, to spread propaganda effectively.

Right.

So, like, part of my understanding was that TikTok in America was very different from TikTok in China, and that we got the version that is far more brain rotting than the one in China.

And that, to your point, about like, is it corrupting its users' health in some way?

I can see the argument there.

That made sense.

When it comes to like privacy, though, which is another big plank in this sort of argument,

it just feels like nobody cares.

Yeah.

Like as much as it is on paper a really important priority, nobody cares.

Yeah, I think kids were born into a world where that's everything.

They just watched an inauguration where the owners of all all of the social media were with the president.

Including the TikTok CEO?

Right.

And you're like, okay, so the government's always got my data.

Kids care so little that when they got rid of TikTok for a few hours, they downloaded an app officially owned by the government of China to replace it.

But Mina, the whole thing about like kids, it's also adults who just, I think, are like, we are so far gone.

Yeah.

Like we're not losing sleep over this.

And so who's actually fighting for the banning of this thing other than people who are worried about, you know, the Chinese government from a governmental political perspective.

Well, that's the other side of it.

So, yeah, I think most of the legal case seems to be about the kind of data collection side, but the other side is like, you know, the Chinese government is involved in these things and they have influence over their companies.

And there's been a lot of studies about whether or not that's affected the actual content put out on TikTok.

And I found a lot of it to be like pretty convincing and credible, by the way.

I guess for me, to go back to kind of what Katie said about like

just

setting aside, again, the data side, let's just kind of cut to like, is this a net good or a net bad?

That's kind of what I'm thinking through.

And Pablo, you hit on something which is, I think, a point in his favor, which it does seem like a more positive place in a lot of social media.

I guess for me, I kind of have two thoughts or two ideas in my...

Head at once.

One of which is, I think, Katie, you're right.

Like there is a lot of like actually like lovely content on there.

You know, I've watched things about parenting and cooking and science and educational things.

So it's it's not a wasteland devoid of culturally significant or enlightening content.

It's there, right?

But I am still so like profoundly uncomfortable with the fact that so many people get not just their news, but how they feel about major events, stories, public figures, to your point, is dictated not by facts, but by an algorithm.

It's by what's popular.

And that's where I really feel like it's largely a net negative.

And that to me kind of outweighs the good things that I'm seeing.

Katie, like the whole thing about

we're going to lose all of this stuff.

What would you have missed the most

as you were contemplating TikTok being at least temporarily banned?

If I'm honest,

if I'm

completely honest, I think what I would miss the most is hearing other people's drama, drama that does not affect me, but that someone else is really fired up about.

I would miss that.

I would miss getting face to, like, I've watched a lot of TikToks where I feel like I'm FaceTiming with somebody who I don't know, and they're telling me a juicy story.

And yeah, sometimes you're like, I don't really care what this is, and you scroll away.

But there's like something to like an.

an average American TV.

It just feels like, and obviously everybody's putting on some, they're presenting some sort of a something.

So I'm not saying everyone's being authentically themselves.

Yeah.

But

it was like where you hear from just people.

Anybody can upload.

Anybody can upload and it can get enough traction and can go like I could just bump into the experiences of regular people scrolling through my phone.

So wait, did it feel like that though?

Is that part of TikTok's whole thing?

Is that unlike Instagram, where it's like tied to your, to some real account, like TikTok was sort of a more open field of

realistic.

No, I think there probably was mechanations to it that I don't understand.

But if you put up a banger of a video, it's going to get out to more people and more people will see it no matter who you are.

So you could be a big account.

But like my TikTok algorithm didn't have any of the like TikTok influencers that I know of through like people talking about TikTok, but it had like just like Lola Young.

I don't know if anybody knows her.

She's a musician that I love from England.

I never would have heard her music if I hadn't had TikTok.

I found Dochi on TikTok forever ago.

Like that's just like

where I like find stuff and music discern.

Yeah.

So, but, but that, but that question, I mean, of like, what can you not get elsewhere?

Like, what is this doing that the other places that we're all subscribed to in ways that make us think we're all so far gone on privacy that why do we even care anymore?

We have so many of these apps.

Like, that part, like, is there a unique argument for what TikTok was able to cultivate?

I think Katie just made it, right?

Which is like the idea of like regular people surfing a wave and that discovery you would get from seeing someone who either was just very funny, sometimes unintentionally, or maybe had some kind of artistic talent that they never would have found a platform for elsewhere.

And I think that's all true.

My problem is sort of that it had become

sort of

overtaken by one, the fact that so many people started treating it as a business and are just selling you stuff or just shoveling shit.

And the fact that it has replaced a lot of traditional media in functions that I don't think it's capable of or prepared for.

But that goes beyond TikTok, of course, Pablo.

That's all of social media as a news source.

So I think it's just,

it still does

great things, but it also became everything for people.

And I think that's not a good thing.

Yeah, I think that it's hard to say that this is uniquely harmful, even if it is

maybe

uniquely compromised by the government that had

sort of co-signed it and and exported it to us.

But I guess the question is, would you rather have newspapers or this?

Newspapers.

This is where I would insert that song that you said you were going to find.

Insert it in post.

I think he's going to play something.

Oh, fair enough.

Do you want me to play it?

This is my other favorite thing about TikTok that I will miss when it goes away, which is the universal experience of playing a TikTok you love for everyone else's.

You guys are out of your mind.

If that's not catchy to you, you're out of your fing mind.

That's a banger.

That song is a banger.

So, our producers using a sophisticated artificial intelligence

adjacent technology,

did a bit of scouting.

They found some faces from around the NFL playoffs and the outer regions therein.

And we're going to see what it's like when some people

look like,

I don't know.

What is this?

What's the way I want to say this?

What's the way I want to say this?

So confused by this game.

Show the first photo.

Like once a year, somebody puts out NFL quarterbacks as women.

Right.

And then

it just immediately turns into who's the hottest.

Yeah,

we're hot or nodding.

Good coaches.

Female versions of a variety of men involved in the NFL because I looked for that list that Mina had referenced.

No one had done it.

And so we were the change we wanted to see in the world.

Mandy Reed.

Yeah.

Andrea.

Candy.

That's probably Candy Reed.

I'm not getting a candy vibe.

But she looked friendly to you.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

She is, she makes those seven-layer bars that have the chocolate chips and the coconut and the, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's, that's what she brings to the bake sale.

And she always makes more than enough.

Like it's a good amount of bars.

I think that she has lots of things that she has recipes for that have numbers in the title.

Like.

a six cheese macaroni.

Right.

A five layer dip.

Andy Reid famously makes like a six cheese macaroni.

Did you not notice?

What do we got next?

Oh my God.

Here we go.

Looks the same.

Speaking of precocious,

almost identical to male.

Also, also named CJ.

CJ works, I think.

Catherine Jane.

Catherine Jane Stroud.

I'm getting high school musical.

I'm getting a sunniness in her eyes.

I think this person likes to dance in a group setting.

I think she's cool.

I'm getting that we didn't slide the slider over far enough.

I'm seeing too much CJ Stroud in this woman.

This isn't.

This just looks like CJ Stroud.

Yeah, the eyes are a little different.

I think they look, they probably gave her some like lashes or something and maybe made them a little bit more like up a little like we do with our makeup, whatever that's called.

But this is still just C.J.

Stroud, dude.

Was the hair changed?

Was the hair changed at all?

Barely.

A little.

A little bit.

I mean, just turned into a curl.

Pablo, this is a thing on Instagram and TikTok that many, that women use where all, it's like a filter is where you just get lashes.

And that's what happened here, right?

It's like,

it'll have, they always have names like light makeup or flawless fashion.

Flawless touch.

Flawless face.

And then you put it on, you're like, whoa, yes, if I'd.

But that, this just looks like CJ Stroud with lashes.

Yeah,

what's next?

Oh, my God.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

We know this person, right?

Okay.

So this brings me to an interesting memory that I feel like everybody has forgotten, which is, do you remember when Travis Kelsey shaved his beard and America was like, is he actually hot?

I don't remember.

No, I have memory hold.

Nobody remembers this.

One, like, this is pre-Taylor Swift, obviously.

I was going to say, the way that Travis Kelsey was pre-Taylor Swift, I think, is also being memory hold.

Just as a personality-wise,

he did host a reality show.

Yeah.

That seemed less likable than he is now.

Yes.

Yeah.

This person's name is Samantha.

I knew that right away.

I looked right at the picture and I said, oh, Samantha?

So that's, I know that doesn't rhyme with any of his name in any way, but that's a Samantha if I've ever seen one.

She's a coach of a women's high school team.

Field hockey.

Mm-hmm.

Or softball.

Yep.

Part down the middle.

This gal has a big smile, but she's a bully.

Wow.

Look at her.

Mina's encountered Samantha before.

This girl, yeah, this girl pointed out in front of everyone that my doc martins were not real doc martins they're for oh no damn the stitches are the wrong color damn what stitches katie what stitches

what's next guys oh my god oh my god oh my god hard to look at

so who is this

that's

this is this is uh senator elizabeth warren uh that's um snuck her into this what's his name

that's what's his face pablo say his name is so close they I cannot tell.

Shares a first name with someone in your life.

Yeah, Dan Quinn.

It's Dan Quinn.

It's Dan Quinn.

Yeah.

That's Dan Quinn.

Yeah, that's Dan Quinn.

God, that's so funny.

That's like a.

Yo, Dan Quinn is a MILF.

Can I just say that?

Yeah.

I'm into Dan Quinn.

Oh my God.

So hot.

I've seen it.

So hot.

Yeah, I'm going to go every way on that.

I'm going to go.

All of them are.

That's not for you.

You don't want to bang Patricia Mahomes.

Patricia Mahomes

is a little too eager.

Eager?

I'm getting, getting, I'm getting,

getting eager.

Thirst.

Is this hot male Mina?

Because this is going to f me up.

So the reason this is remarkable.

Zoom into the face if you can.

This is my brother.

This is.

You're my brother.

She's straight up.

Interesting.

Like, true.

The thing about that theory.

I love that outfit, by the way.

We didn't superimpose your brother's face onto your body.

That's actually what the technology gave us.

Why did it do that gray thing on her shoulder then?

Yes, it is.

Hold on.

Is that true?

Yeah, everybody behind the glass.

This is

Mina.

This is the AI.

This is not.

It's not.

This is agony.

Literally took a picture of my shut up.

It's not.

Katie's walking up to the screen to evaluate.

I mean, it looks like it's weird because her right ear is hers.

The left ear, it does look like you cut a picture and put it on her.

Oh, it's her hair.

It's trying to.

Okay.

For various reasons, this looks identical to Isaac Times.

Which I'm, for the record, I'm not saying.

Mina said it.

And that's the best part.

For various reasons, perhaps it's our shared DNA.

Perhaps that's the reason.

I've done this.

When we did this back with HQ and we did the male version, I looked a lot like Isaac.

I remember.

I don't think I would look like my brother at all.

Well, let's see.

Oh, boy.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

A nightmare.

Oh, my God, a nightmare.

Look at, look at him.

Look.

I see

Jimmy Garoppolo.

Yep.

Thank you.

We're getting

some top notes of Garoppolo.

Bake win for you.

Thank you, guys.

There is

a filmmaker jacked.

Some Ricky Martin.

Some are saying.

Looks a little bit like Henry Cavill.

Wow, that now looks a lot now that I'm looking at it.

Katie,

this is weird.

Sebastian Stan also, people are saying, many are saying.

But you're a Chad.

I mean, this is

a Chad.

Incredible.

A Tetra giga Chad.

Tetra Chad?

How does this compare to your brother, Kevin?

I mean, I'm actually,

I kind of see it more than I've ever when I look at my brother and I'm like, we don't look alike.

I kind of weirdly do see it here, but not a lot.

Not a lot.

But a little, more than I usually do.

Do we have another angle on this that we can examine?

It's also the same haircut I had my whole childhood.

It looks incredibly natural.

It's what it looked like for my childhood.

Incredibly natural.

Okay.

Now that I'm dating now.

That is Jimmy G.

This guy, Keith Nolan, loves and deserves the finest adults.

adult film star to join him at dinner.

Yeah, that's right.

he wears a deep V and a necklace or two.

Not bad.

Okay, that's Dan as a lady.

Okay, girl.

Yeah, what a sweetie.

Look at Myrtle.

Myrtle looks completely non-plussed.

It's her birthday, by the way.

Happy birthday, Myrtle.

Happy birthday, Myrtle.

What if the

technology did it to Myrtle, too, and you just couldn't tell the difference?

It might have.

I think Dan looks cute.

I think he looks like the, not the lead, but a supporting character in like a teen movie like Divergence or something, like one of those movies about like the world has ended and we're all teenagers.

What do we do?

Oh my God.

A teacher, my third grade teacher.

I'm not just saying this, but like if you were to split screen this with Melissa McCarthy, it would be pretty.

I think there'd be similarities.

There'd be similarities.

Pretty much.

Is that what Dan wore that night or is that an updated as well?

Yeah.

Did Dan wear that blouse with that jacket?

She's like, look at me.

Oh my God.

Pablo.

Damn.

Are you the hottest of all of us?

I look, I look, again, Katie is a predator.

But

objectively speaking,

you know, you want to protect this.

You want to protect this

vulnerable creature.

Bright eyes, whole life ahead of her.

Sweet.

I think she's a sweet.

Sorry, I won't be saying anything further so as not to incriminate my, that's a beautiful woman.

I watch her do dances on TikTok.

She looks like my primary rival for valedictorian

from high school.

We're both doing, you know, extra studies to try to jack up our GPAs.

I think we should probably stop doing this now.

The visual segment on the audio medium?

Probably.

This was a successful podcast.

Yeah.

Great.

What I found out,

what I found out at the end of today's episode of Pablo Torrey Finds Out a Show About Finding Stuff Out is that I will never take lightly Katie Nolan's vulnerability when showing us a TikTok.

Yeah, sorry, I'd prefer to save journalism instead of whatever the f that was.

Newspaper, it's owned by Jeff Bezos.

You think that the Washington Post is better?

It's owned by Jeff Bezos.

They didn't endorse a political candidate.

We don't know.

You play one that you're like, this is so funny.

And then you play it in front of a group of people and they don't want to.

I did a whole episode of that.

Yeah.

This is, this is, this is unfortunately a recurring and genuine phenomenon.

Okay, what about this then?

Listen, we've all no, don't do it.

What are they?

I gotta go, guys.

I gotta go do NFL stuff.

Why is there a dancing small white child in front of Kendrick Lamar?

I feel like.

bye.

What did you find out before you leave?

I found out that Pablo did not go to a lot of parties.

And did I really find that out?

Because I could have guessed it.

All right.

Bye, guys.

Okay, very good.

I mean, I love you.

Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Aberoma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Dawig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Neely Lohman, Rob McRae, Rachel Miller-Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan, Claire Taylor, Chris Tumanello, and Juliet Warren.

Our studio engineering by RG Systems, our sound design by NGW Post, our theme song, as always, is by John Bravo.

We will talk to you next time.

I'm not sure if you can see it.