We Plugged in Our PlayStation, and This Happened

Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out.

I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

How would you describe your relationship to video games, Katie?

Sexual.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Really sexual.

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Apparently, we're rolling.

Oh, good.

Oh, clap.

We're clapping.

No.

Clap.

Amin.

Amin's.

Amin' Bane.

How often is Amin going to do the Bane voice?

The whole time.

I'm doing it the whole time.

My prediction is he's not going to stay for the full thing, and he's going to do Bane for as long as he stays.

I'm going to try, unless I lose it.

Then I must give it back to you.

Getting German.

Not getting better.

Certainly not getting better.

Katie, Amin, and me are here.

We've never done this.

We have a PS5 on the big screen that I normally sit in front of in our studio, the Paul Dory Finds Out Studio, a show based around journalism that today is a show based around the PlayStation 5 that we have.

And so, Katie Nolan, you play video games more than anybody else in my life that I know.

I don't have a job.

Just say it.

Do you want to call me a slur, Laurie?

That's a callback.

You video game

slut.

Okay, fair.

Put that on the blower third.

But I'm pretty monogamous.

I usually just stick with one and I it all the time.

And then I move on to the next one.

Shout out to

The Last of Us, remember?

Yeah.

That was a moment in the pandemic.

Oh, the video games.

Yeah.

We were playing The Last of Us at the same time.

You guys were?

Me and Katie were up.

Yeah.

We were.

I feel

like I got boxed out of

a friendship.

But we've logged into Katie's account.

That sound you maybe heard is Katie logging in.

I call this,

and I mean this, my favorite game of the last

certainly two years.

Okay.

You guys have never played Fallen Order or Jedi Survivor?

I think I might have played Fallen Order.

Fallen Order is like five, six years old, but Jedi Survivor is the one that came out last year.

It's the reason I bought a PS5.

Pablo.

I know.

You're a Jedi on the run.

I know, my friend.

From the Empire.

AOL screen name was Yoda, followed by six numbers, and I have not played this game yet.

Oh, my God.

What, six numbers?

I can't tell you.

Okay.

What was your screen name again, just for...

I had a couple, but the one that really hurts was Hugs and Kisses 411.

Oh, my God.

I would like information on these hugs and kisses.

Quick, behind Inside the Actor Studio on why you were Hugs and Kisses, what numbers are.

Because I was the 411.

What's the haps?

What's the hot goss?

I was trying to present as a girly girl because I was constantly called a boy.

So

leaned in really hard into like, this is what girls do.

Katie's like, what are these bitches like?

Yeah, exactly.

It was clear.

Hugs and kisses.

I was joking before that, yeah, we'll talk while playing video games, you know, talk about ourselves, our video games, childhood dramas, and we've actually gotten it.

We've gotten to my childhood drama pretty quickly, yeah.

All right, so this episode is something of an experiment.

And if you go to our YouTube channel, that becomes very obvious.

We're going to do things that are deeply visual because we're also a TV show, airing on the DraftKings Networking on YouTube, of course.

But also, we care about our podcast listeners.

You, podcast listener, I care about you.

And I just need to disclose to you that there's some stuff happening on screen screen while we're talking that will make all of this make even that much more sense, even as we are unrepentantly fing around today.

And I could have news pegged this to like March Madness and college and nostalgia and friendship.

But no, I'm here to just tell you, please subscribe to our YouTube channel because we're fing around playing Spider-Man 2, a game in which you are both Peter Parker sometimes, but also Miles Morales, the other Spider-Man, other times.

And in fact, if you listen very closely,

as we've been talking, the theme song of Spider-Man Spider-Man 2 has been playing underneath us like a beat.

It's a banger.

And I'm like kind of bopping to it.

And so we're at the select save slot.

I want to narrate this.

Katie Nolan, her account.

It's already, what a power move.

100%.

I've never seen that before.

Really?

I do that to every game.

100%.

I'm a completionist.

The point being that Katie Nolan has beaten Spider-Man 2.

I never beat any games but this one because I'm an open world guy.

Katie's flipping through these things.

So we're going to.

I'm just clicking around.

Oh my God.

Okay.

I'm in a mission.

You're in the lizard mission?

Okay.

Yeah.

So,

Spider-Man 2,

I mean, you've played this game, yes?

I've played the original, the first one.

Okay, so the physics of this game are better than

truly any other video game I've ever played.

The graphics are more fluid.

You can shoot web lines to walk across if you have patience to then, yeah, you can web up people.

I love webbing up people.

Me too.

It's the best.

So she's sneaking around and assassinating people quietly.

And I'm already at this point, typically, just in a giant melee.

Really?

So you don't do the stealth to begin?

Oh, I like to take out, I like to go

up.

The entire first wave of people knocking them all out before.

But those guys get in my way.

These fucking mechanical birds.

They're all done.

I enjoy just mashing some buttons in the middle of a brawl with like 50 hunters in this case.

How did you choose your costume, by the way?

I don't.

I never do.

I don't.

I just don't care.

This is the same girl who had to be hugs and kisses 4011.

Oh, yeah, because I'm expressing feminism.

I'm not going to prove something to somebody and it was not real.

About dressing up Spider-Man.

It would be weird.

If I dressed the way I do in real life and then cared in a video game what I dressed as, don't you think?

Katie's costume is like jingoistic Spider-Man, though.

He's the American flag on the back.

Jingoistic.

You play video games like a dork.

That guy's safe right here.

Reading a thick piece, watching Katie play Spider-Man too.

Aha, two at once.

There we go.

Wow, well done.

There we go.

Here's that Neptune you ordered.

Yeah, there's that neptime.

So I should say, I guess for people who have not played this, this is like a fully immersive recreation of a New York City.

Yeah.

And so you're in a giant warehouse.

Can you leave Manhattan in this world?

Yes.

Can you go to Queens and Brooklyn?

Because that was a really upsetting part of the first one.

I will never get tired of watching you kick serious ass.

Thanks, Ganki.

Shout out to Ganki, by the way.

But also, f you to Genki.

Because in the movies, Genki is played by a Filipino guy.

Yeah.

And his name is not Genki, who's clearly like, you know, not Filipino in this game.

There are a lot of Filipino characters in various projects that get changed.

Like what?

What's though?

Glad you asked him, remember Starship Troopers?

Uh-huh.

Johnny Rico in the novel is Filipino.

Really?

Yes.

Rico, that is, huh?

Johnny Rico.

Played by fing Casper Van Deen.

Yeah.

The whitest man

in the history of movies.

So the thing about Spider-Man 2 New Game Plus, I loved Spider-Man 2, played it straight through so much I hurt my finger famously.

Yep.

Which potentially cost you.

It didn't, but we can pretend.

Yep, so

I wanted New Game Plus right away.

So I didn't know that this was a thing in general, by the way.

You beat a game and then you have to replay the game with all the powers.

With all the stuff you've unlocked.

So it's not like you have to wait till the seventh chapter to use this one power.

You start with it.

But I realized what I love the most about Spider-Man 2 is the story.

There are a lot of parts of this game where you're like, this is kind of boring.

I'm just walking through a warehouse.

You're sneaking around.

Yeah.

But also, I remember this being terrifying for myself.

This is very scary.

And it will be very scary.

Like, it's a darkened warehouse.

And you and your mechanical bird friend that you've commandeered, you've hacked into being an ally of yours.

It's just his skin.

The shedded skin.

Doesn't that mean he's lizard is circumcised?

Oh, shit.

I forgot about this part.

Who's this?

In comic book, video game.

They don't line up.

They don't line up.

Right.

There's a lot of retconning and just changing of plot to make it more fluid narratively.

And so Harry Osborne, who's the son of the Green Goblin, I believe he becomes the hobgoblin.

He becomes the Green Goblin.

So anyway, so Harry is wearing the symbiote suit.

He's sick.

And his dad gets him this suit to make him feel better.

Rich billionaire.

Right.

And the suit does.

But then Peter gets the suit because

he almost dies.

Yes.

And the symbiote, like, goes on to him to heal him.

Yep.

And he takes it from Harry.

So then Harry's getting sick again and dying.

And so right now you're cooperating with Symbiote's suit, Harry.

Harry's dying, and he's the only one who can help.

So you're in the East River.

That's right.

I'm fighting the hunters and all their various

ways of modes of transportation.

They've got boats, they've got planes, they've got ski-doos.

Everybody's doing it.

Ski-doos.

Ski-doo.

And you're

the Roosevelt Island tram.

They have those jet skis that people in the East River actually do ride, and it's disgusting.

How do you feel about the web wings?

I didn't like them the first time I played it.

I do like them now.

I use them all the time now, but they're also like the number one thing that Spider-Man in the comics does not do.

Yeah.

But the web swinging and the web winging

is like

so fun and so fun.

Yeah, it's like the closest you get to, I guess, and this is the most sincere, uncool thing I've ever said.

It's the closest thing to getting to feel like you're actually Spider-Man.

Yeah, this is like Westworld for Spider-Man.

Yes.

Oh boy.

Oh boy.

We got a big lizard angry at us in the East River, but we're invisible and now we're visible again.

That's right.

Miles can be invisible.

I don't use that

much.

Katie, what was the first game that you fell in love with that wasn't like Super Mario Bros.

those simple type of videos?

Uncharted.

I think it was like this, maybe the second one.

Wait, what was Uncharted?

I don't.

I never

knew it was Cameron Drake or what was his name?

Yeah, Nathan Drake.

Nathan Drake, yeah.

It was like a treasure hunty,

Indiana Jonesy type.

Oh wait, this is something that Tom Holland ended up being in the movie for.

Speaking of Spider-Man and Mark Wahlberg.

Unchatted.

Unchatted.

Chatted.

What about you, Pablo?

What was your

modern video game?

Modern video game.

GTA.

Grand Theft Auto.

Where I just am a serial killer terrorist.

GTA 3 was the first one that was like...

Third person, whatever, walking around and doing stuff.

My big criticism of Spider-Man 2 is that in terms of the open worldness of it, it is as open and as explorable and as swingable as anything ever.

But like, for instance, let's walk up to somebody.

Yeah.

Like,

like, I can't punch that guy.

You can do, you can, like, wave.

You can yank that

thing up and go, whoa.

But, like, come on.

I'm swinging a giant mailbox and no one is getting hit by it.

Yeah.

I'm just, like, waving at people.

Why are you picking a woman?

You know why?

You're your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man.

That's right.

I am an equal opportunity

attempt.

I don't know.

You've just assaulted several women.

I am.

Why are there only women on this street?

Oh, geez, a woman of color?

Look, I don't see color as the symbiote.

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Your love of video games, which seems similar and yet very different to mine and Amin's, the idea that you're completing missions, you're going through it.

How do you describe why you like video games at all?

To me, it's like a movie I can play.

It's a movie that I'm like, I'm, you know, I've got ADD.

Pretty obvious.

If you didn't know that, that's kind of wild.

But I took out all of those guys

with a speed that suggests that this person,

her mind is operating at a level that is beyond.

And I like the sense of getting better.

I like when you first start and you're like, oh, I suck at this.

And then you're like, no, just learn what it's trying to teach you.

I don't think as adults we get opportunities to do that as much anymore of like a literal learning, like you need to learn how to use this.

And then the way it feels really rewarding when you get good at it and you're just like,

How do you deal with failure?

Like when you've got that one mission that you keep dying and being caught on?

I get frustrated and then I usually take a break and then I come back to it with fresh fingers and I attack it again.

How does my fiancé?

Well, sometimes

we had to buy a new IKEA table because he may have put a fist.

Wait, what game

made him react the way?

Rocket League.

It was Rocket League.

Rocket League?

It's cars playing soccer.

It's the best.

That makes it

story even better.

It's the best.

He gets very, very frustrated with himself because he just does this thing where he'll like doubt himself before he's about to hit a ball.

And then, because of his doubt, he likes, I see him swerve literally around the ball.

I'm like, you didn't even need to swerve.

Why would you have swerved?

I do like that Dan, and he's not alone in this, right?

Like, you see the genre of people punching their televisions after their favorite team loses and also destroying various parts of their home.

To be fair, an Ikea table breaks very easily.

You know, it's not like it was a real table.

Right, that's that

Schnorgan

doesn't exactly

directly into the garbage.

This way, the other way.

The other way.

No,

that your Swede.

That's good.

So that's that way I exploded.

The A-train.

Connors doesn't want to be followed.

That's the other thing I did not like about Spider-Man, the whole narrating what I'm doing.

Yeah, oh, here's what's happening.

I mean, the thing I'm trying to do to keep this a podcast that people listen to on

the podcast is that.

What is the point of this podcast?

Like, what is the name?

What are you naming this?

We're finding out

how good Katie Nolan is at Spider-Man.

She's not very good.

She just does it for fun.

Love the game.

Like that, Nelly.

I disagree.

I think you're good.

You completed a game on Amazon.

Honestly, just dipping through this.

Seriously.

How would you describe your relationship to video games, Katie?

Sexual.

Yep.

Yeah.

Really sexual.

Yeah.

When you're playing a video game, are you playing with like other music that you're got your own soundtrack?

Depends on the game.

If I'm playing a Call of Duty multiplayer, just like loading in to just shoot a bunch of guys, I'll play a playlist.

If I play rockets, Call of Duty playlist-like.

I think it's called I'm Angry, and it's just got all the songs on it that make me feel angry.

Making my way downtown, walking past faces.

That's the third song.

but then like a game where you need to if I'm playing um call of duty and I'm in like a war zone or something like that then I'll no music because I need to hear footsteps I need to know if somebody's coming

my my and like a game like this a story game I don't even want to be on chat if I'm no yeah you need the ambient sound you need the actual I'm listening to podcasts really I used to do that I did that with Fortnite I'm listening to a 1.5x podcast nice and absorbing that information while you're watching while you're doing a story game?

I don't think.

Yes, I'm.

My brain is not exactly like super present while I'm playing a story game.

I used to play a story game and not pay attention to the story.

Really?

Yeah.

And then now I'm like, how did I do that?

I've been

from the very beginning of the opposite.

I'm the guy that, like, when people walk in the room and shut up, I have to listen.

Like, I hear what you're saying.

The lizard's here.

Katie's fighting the lizard now.

You gotta do the big boy.

When you see the blue warnings, I remember this being really hard.

I know.

And I really, oh, yeah, you gotta get up on the wall.

I hate that I have have to do this with an audience.

It's hard.

The lizard is for the audience,

like,

what's that, 12 feet tall?

20?

It looks like a dinosaur.

Is this how you want your family to remember you?

By the way, Spider-Man is doing a terrible job of like

calming this dude down.

Is this how you want your family to remember you?

I would get so much angrier if someone said that to me.

Think of your wife, Spider-Man yells at Dr.

Connors trapped in the body of a giant lizard dinosaur who's trying to kill him.

Don't let your son grow up without his dad.

No.

Don't let your son grow up without his dad.

Would you like to write for these video games, like the banter?

Because I feel like there's...

I always have notes.

Yeah, that's what I've discovered.

I'm not good at writing it, but I'm good at letting you know what you want with it.

Yeah, I could definitely punch up.

We could have finished this already!

I'm gonna die.

One,

I think you gotta go onto the wall yourself.

I know, I think so, too.

Stun him to leave him vulnerable.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

How do you stun him, though?

With the web?

Electric web, right?

No, I didn't see the electric web.

Is that what he said?

I'm gonna die.

No, it said stun him to leave him vulnerable.

I died!

You guys!

Lizard got murdered.

This is the first time I died in two days.

I mean, sorry.

Spider-Man got murdered by the lizard.

This is the first time.

Yeah.

I haven't died yet, but I'm trying to talk at the same time, you know, so it's kind of your guys' fault.

It's our fault, Pablo.

I said, I predicted all of this for the record.

Did you care about the 8-bit games?

Because

you like video games where you're in a movie.

This is clearly a movie.

Are you talking to me?

Yeah, yeah.

What 8-bit games?

I'm talking to Dr.

Connors.

I'm paying attention.

I'm trying to beat the 20-year-old.

Remember Mario, Dr.

Connors.

Yeah, I liked 8-bit games.

I had an older brother, and when you're a little sister with an older brother and you play video games, it's like they, um, they're just waiting for their turn, and you end up mostly watching.

I think i invented twitch because i grew up watching my brother play video games and pretending that it was me playing them so like i i liked them i didn't get as good at them because i died a lot and then my brother would be like my turn and then he would not die because he was better at it because he's three years older than me

really not in the mood for the ramp changing so so you were into video games before the cinematic immersive aspect of them you know when you said what game did i get into in the modern era and i said uncharted that was like the game i liked the most the game that got me in was lego Marvel Superheroes.

I've never played that.

But I played Lego Marvel Superheroes.

It like helped me relearn.

Because buttons, when you get back into video games when you haven't been in them since you were a kid, the buttons are really complicated.

How long was the layoff?

What?

Oh, a long time.

Between like,

I guess, Sega Genesis and PlayStation.

The number of buttons have multiplied.

Whoa, so you missed out on Dreamcast?

Yeah.

Dreamcast.

Oh, PowerStone.

Deancast.

PowerStone.

What systems did you have?

I mean,

the first system I had was ColecoVision.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

You are.

Oh, my God.

So old.

I always forget that.

And then I didn't have NES.

I didn't have Super NES.

I didn't have Sega Genesis.

I had to go to friends' houses to play those.

That was me with NCAA.

And then PlayStation 1.

Like, my roommate had it in college.

And then PS2, I think, was the first one I purchased for myself.

So, but

I was never away from video games.

I was just not owning it.

Right.

I went NES, Sega Genesis,

Dreamcast?

Dreamcast was my roommate, bro.

N64.

N64 was my cousin.

Goldeneye.

I don't think I had a GameCube, but my college roommates had GameCube.

GameCube?

GameCube.

Never saw GameCube with my eyes.

Yeah, me neither.

I didn't know anybody had.

You said it as if you suspect that GameCube wasn't real.

I mean, I don't know anyone who's ever owned one.

I remember it was a big deal deal because like nintendo abandoning cartridges like that was mario on a disc yeah

uh and then i went to

ps4 no did i go to no then i lived with people and they had a ps2 and a ps3 then i bought a ps4 and then a ps5

and i also have because i bought cable from verizon i have uh an xbox oh s system i had i had a hand-me-down xbox and i i remember i don't like xbox done yet dude because the controllers controllers are just they feel they feel too too clunky like the PlayStation 2 slash 3 slash 4 controller to me is the most perfect controller ever the with the the analog sticks yeah that's the that's the perfect controller perfect size perfect accessibility you like a rumble pack how do you feel about a rumble i like the rumble pack i like because sometimes in some of these games it rumbles before you usually turn it off no i like it

okay this lizard's taken a long time to die.

Oh, this is I think the part I don't like

this is where there's stuff on the wall.

He's MC Macrone.

He's now grown to the size of a building.

He's a grower.

Not a shower.

Not a shower.

Oh, he's showing something now.

Okay.

Well, cuz he's growing.

No d though.

Just saying.

I don't want to do this again.

I already fought you, bro.

You fight the lizard so many times in this game.

After all the times I've felt for you.

Oh, now you're gonna get the thing.

Get the thing.

Get the- Oh, God, I hit the L1R one.

It didn't do it.

Yeah, this is when Spider-Man's PEDs, his symbiote PEDs, start kicking in, and he's just like furious and also multiple.

I have none of my

none of my, I don't have any of my powers.

Why not?

I don't have the L the

L triangle?

I can, but I couldn't.

I was trying to L1 R or L three R.

I cannot talk to you and do this at the same time.

So basically, Spider-Man has a series of special hits he can do, but only when his meter is full.

She had depleted her meter, so that's why she couldn't do anything other than just kind of like throw little pathetic web shots at him, like,

which is basically like in the middle of a

literally makes pew, pew, pew, just yeah, she just spit on him, like,

there are so many more buttons on the controller, so you are actually like a fighter pilot.

Yeah, shout out to uh David Blatt.

What did David Blatt, former coach of the Cavs, say?

He likened coaching an NBA game to

the decision-making of a fighter pilot.

Second only to the decision-making of a fighter pilot.

Disagree.

There we go.

What's crazy is that Spider-Man, I mean, truly, like, how many times can you tell this story and make video games and toys and products?

Like, No Way Home and Across Into the Spider-Verse.

Right.

Two of my favorite Spider-Man movies, both ostensibly on paper.

Not a thing I would ever want to see.

All about multiverse shit.

A genre I'm otherwise exhausted by.

In the way that Katie's exhausted by trying to listen listen to me talk while she is trying to do that.

Well, I mean, I think she's tuned us out at this point.

We're having a conversation and she's...

Is he finally fing dead, dude?

What were you guys talking about?

Okay.

My fingers hurt.

This, I thought, would be sweatier.

No.

just ice

veins.

Same way with baseball players, when they're always like, his heart rate, his heart rate stays.

It's me.

I just stay unsweaty.

I'm trying to

watch it.

I think it's about to be a bunch of boss fights.

Oh, my God.

I don't think right away.

I think you'll get a break from it.

This stretch we're about to embark on is the most intense stretch of a video game I've ever played.

Venom's in there,

Energy Guy,

Lee, exactly.

Mr.

What's it?

Mr.

Negative?

Yeah.

Mr.

Nergy.

Dude, you know what's funny is how many of those villains that they created in the 60s and 70s were just so ridiculous, but they had to keep churning out content.

So just made up stuff.

Mr.

Bad Guy.

Yeah.

So

Spider-Man has just learned that he's wearing an alien, that the symbiote is an alien.

And it shows you.

It makes me a better Spider-Man.

So the thing about the symbiote, at least in this video game, is that it seems to also infect the mind of the person wearing it if they've been wearing it long enough, and it starts to make them think that they and the symbiote are one and that all of their actions must work to preserve the symbiote and let it continue to infect.

That's how it is in the comic book as well.

Okay, cool.

Where the

symbiote basically makes Peter believe, oh, I need this.

Yes.

Do something so that we can, you got to get get into a mission.

So again, like what I would do.

Yep.

See, I'm like already setting up all of the other things.

Oh, there is.

You've already...

Pablo, shoot up to something.

To hit both R2 and L2.

Aim at something and hit L2, R2.

There you go.

He wasn't lying,

not liking this stuff.

This is my save file.

So if you think about it.

All right, Pablo, while you do this intensely thing you need to focus on, we're just going to pepper you with some questions you have to answer.

What was the first video game you ever played?

I think it was like Duck Hunt.

And did I cheat?

Of course.

You did?

Yeah, you hold up the gun to the screen.

Do kids even get that reference anymore?

Oh, yeah, I guess.

But it didn't really make it that much better.

It didn't.

It actually defeated the entire purpose.

Yeah.

Oh, that's what I stopped.

Oh, my favorite one is when he gets someone against the wall.

The violence of this game is kind of mind-blowing when you really

watch the way that I'm breaking the backs of all of these guys.

All these guys.

Just

eventually it's going to run out.

Okay, it ran out.

So now you're back to regular you but you can do your finishing moves

i mean pablo

you expect to introduce your child to video games so we have a ps5 and they have like one of those like built-in games that i am

so my niece has come over who is nine now nine years old mia and so violet get the intel get the intel is obsessed with my save file doing everything that mia does and so mia's already started playing these little built-in games and i can tell that she's going to be addicted

Really?

Yeah, and so I'm concerned because the way that you pick up all this stuff intuitively

is

remarkable.

Like, how easily kids pick up stuff when it comes to tablets, video games, and all this shit.

I hate this.

I know, but you started it, so you have to finish it.

I have to find like the x-ray thing.

Yeah, look how hard that was.

Wasn't that so hard?

I don't like it when the game is like, here's busy work.

That's a lot of spider works.

A lot of this game is that, yeah.

You must have hated the MJ missions.

I did.

This is going to sound increasingly misogynistic based on the targets that I'm picking in my rants, but when you are Mary Jane Watson wandering through like the subterranean tunnels and shit, I'm like, this is not what I signed up for.

It does suck that a lot of video games, when they do the girl part,

quote unquote, it's like a boring mission where you're like, use your notebook.

You're like, okay, you know, the girls could also.

Like, she has a, she even has a stun gun.

Like, her weapon is a stun gun.

I know, like, give her a reason.

She throws rocks to dude.

At least she had a weapon, she has a weapon.

In the first Spider-Man game, you just literally have to hide.

Oh, yeah, get that car, Pablo.

Oh, no, you do.

What the f are you doing?

Pablo, what was your relationship like with your parents?

Okay, vis-a-vis video games.

Um, they once locked

I hate you.

Um, I used to play video games so much that they put a physical lock

through the hole in the electrical

cabinet.

So I couldn't plug it in.

Nobody gets away.

I deserved it, to be honest.

What was the extent of like, oh, Pablo, you've really out of it.

I just remember playing a lot of Battle Toads on NES.

Remember Battle Toads?

Anybody?

Yeah.

F ⁇ ing great game.

How do you guys feel about

people who,

you know, they're very territorial about just the domain of video games I hate it I hate it because

here's the thing when somebody asks me if I'm a gamer I now say I say no

because I'm like well I don't want to be held to some sort of like you didn't play Final Fantasy IV and I'm like no I didn't because I like playing video games but I like the video games that I like

and I play them a lot and I probably don't play them in the meta way which is like the cool way of like everybody knows you got to do it like this and for Call of Duty it's like everybody everybody knows you got to use this one specific gun.

And I'm like, well, I like to level up every gun.

That's how I play the game.

How much are you paying attention to?

Like,

it used to be like, you know, the equivalent, I guess, would have been like video game guys, like Nintendo Power.

Now it's subreddit, I think.

Are you reading the Reddits when you're playing games?

If I have a question or if there's a glitch, if there's a glitch, it's the easiest way to find out if it's like my game or I'm screwing up or if it's like a common thing.

I don't like thieves.

You want to steal?

This is what you get.

So I love online play more than obviously doing any missions.

So it's less alone for me.

Like, video games are meant to be social.

You find it to be a social.

I do.

Who are you playing with then?

Well, I don't play as much online as in the playoffs.

You never joined my chat.

I know.

I'm trying to just avoid

how you...

You and Dan invited me to play Rocket League one night, I think.

Yeah, I think it was an accident.

No, no, we were like, let's see if he'll do it.

We were like, send him the invite and we'll just see if he does it.

I like the zoom.

He didn't do it.

Yeah.

I left you unread.

Like that was pretty fed up.

I didn't know what was who was inviting me.

Oh, Queen Teensy, that's me.

Yep.

I forgot that that was your current

gamer tag.

Oh, this is the scene where she becomes...

This scene's actually...

Oh, no, maybe it isn't.

Just the female carnage one?

I thought it was.

That scene fked me up because, first of all,

it looks like he's doing something sexual to her because he like reaches behind the couch and and he's like, and you're like, oh my god, ew, is he like symbiote raping her?

And then she pops up and she's in the symbiote suit and you're like, what?

You're still in the suit.

I thought Connors was going to help you get it off.

That wasn't Cannon either.

It's about

Connor's going to help you get it off, is what MJ said.

Oh, wow.

Sorry, can we do this tomorrow?

Just so beat from Lizard Gregg.

He's such a bad boyfriend in the scene.

You're like, dude.

Well, it's not him.

It's a symbiote.

No, it's him.

That's what they all say.

It's not me, it's the drink.

Oh, he's got enough sense to pull his own blanket up.

No, the symbiote does.

He can't be nice to his girlfriend.

Well, the symbiote, you can't be nice.

Well, it's the symbiote's girlfriend as well.

So, math.

It's a math trophy.

Oh, no.

You have to be married, Jane.

That's awesome.

Let's go, Pablo.

Show us that you do love women.

I date them.

Show us that you aren't a misogynist.

That many guns.

What was that?

Wait, how does she have like spidey senses?

I don't know from finging him.

Sexually transmitted.

He's behind you.

He sees you.

I mean,

oh.

I'm not going to blame the character I'm controlling.

What is it?

Oh, I mean, you can do that.

It's easy.

Square is how you use your stun gun.

r3 is how you identify where the enemies are if you want to run it's r2

it's like the trigger buttons yeah i mean already better at that than you

can't go in the windows downstairs is my only shop so we're sneaking around a house in queens incidentally i mean is from queens

i mean where in queens do you think this is this is probably forest hills

Get him.

Yeah.

I mean, Amin's doing great.

You ain't got shit, bro.

What's your favorite video game of all time?

My favorite favorite sports video game, I'm very excited about this, is Top Spin, which is the tennis game.

You start off as a piece of tennis player and you work your way up the tour until you get to the Grand Slams and stuff.

And it's like everything.

You're trying to get sponsors.

I do like how it took us this long to mention.

Oh, yeah, sports, right?

So sports are also a lot of fun.

Can I say I hate sports video games?

I like sports.

Categorically.

I like video games.

I do not like sports video games.

Why?

Oh, crap.

Because if I'm gonna play, if I'm gonna watch sports, I'm just gonna watch sports.

I don't like playing them

on a

console.

It's like play them, like play t-ball or play like wiffleball.

I don't want to play a baseball video game.

I want to play a video game where I can't do anything I could ever do in real life.

But that's the whole point of sports video games, is you get to do things you

can do.

Yeah, I can't dunk.

I think it's interesting, though, that like, okay, all of us work in sports.

Amin's favorite sports video game is not any of the sports that he loves, or at least covers professionally.

He loves Top Spin, which is a tennis game i've never heard about yeah katie doesn't like any sports video games rocket league's the closest i get right soccer but cars and i i've played fifa i've played madden i think fifa's my favorite fifa's my favorite madden is my least favorite because i just don't understand it's just it doesn't speak to me once hockey video games started to like you had to use the buttons to call and shift change it line changes i was like nah

so do you like the like the the video gamey sports games like yeah nba street and nfl blitz and stuff like that nfl blitz oh my god i played no no game more in my life probably than NFL Blitz.

Run at her with R2.

In high school.

And then Buzzards.

Square, square, square.

Yep.

You're going to want to.

Now that guy's going to be on your ass.

Okay.

But they're dumb.

Yeah, they're not.

All these people are dumb.

Smart.

I mean, do you ever play NFL Blitz?

I mean, why isn't that working?

Run, run, run.

Run with R2.

I mean, Devi.

Ever played NFL Blitz.

Square.

Ever play NFL Blitz!

Do you ever play NFL Blitz?

Yes, I love NFL Blitz.

This is so dumb.

Okay, on three, we're both going to say the player we think and we think of NFL Blitz.

Okay, one, two, three, Shane Charm.

Who would you say?

Warwick Dunn.

Warwick Dunn.

Yeah, like I used to play with what's it called?

With

Tampa Bay a lot.

Brad Johnson was a quarterback, and Mike Alstock was a fullback.

Oh, my God.

Okay, your favorite game.

On up R2?

Your favorite sports video game moment from personally playing sports video game.

So I wasn't playing in this game,

but what happened happened was it was my buddies were playing in the dorm, and I had a buddy of mine named Desmond, and Desmond would always lose, but it wasn't like he would lose because he get blown out.

It was always like the most humiliating, unbelievable losses.

So he's winning this game, and he's got the Sonics, and my buddy Will has the Lakers.

What the hell's going on, Alright?

Shut up.

You guys need to stop the way you speak to women in this video game.

A neighbor just poked her head out.

Interrupting a meme story to yell at a

Mary Jane.

Yay, what do you stop doing?

Don't trush me or whatever.

Queens.

Yeah, so

they're playing Sonics versus Lakers, and Desmond goes up to

the Zach.

Advancing in the game, the video is telling his story.

Okay.

And now he's not telling the story.

Me and you're down.

You're up to.

No, like my buddy Desmond is up to.

Will has Lakers calls timeout.

It's 0.6 seconds to go.

Literally just time to catch a shoot on the inbound.

He calls timeout, passes to what we believe is Glenn Rice in the corner, catches shoot, three-pointer, game over.

Desmond wins.

I mean, Desmond loses.

Will wins.

We watch the replay, and it turns out that wasn't Glenn Rice.

It was Shaq.

Shaq hit a corner three.

Oh, man.

I had moments like

you're about to die now.

So hard.

No, I'm not.

You are.

You better run.

They're all looking at you.

And you're dead.

Of course you're going to die.

She's out cold.

I love her to MJ.

She killed me.

You know what?

I really like the

shit talk they say at the end after they've knocked someone out.

Yeah, she's dead.

Out cold.

Out cold, that little girl with no weapon.

Katie, it's Katie's turn.

No, Katie hates playing these missions.

Katie, B is a girl, girl.

Girl is a girl.

Hugs and kisses.

Girl, B, girl.

Girl is a girl.

Like, you know, I'm trying to think of memorable sportsmen.

I once beat my friend who was Argentina in FIFA as Iraq.

Oh, okay.

So, okay, I got some of these.

I used to pick the Cleveland Cavaliers on 2K 3.

This was the year before they got LeBron.

And so, I had Andre Miller and Jeff Trepany from QSC,

who no one remembers, but he was a great dunker.

Did you have Ira Nubel on this team?

No, Iron Newbel wasn't there.

This was Darius Miles.

This is Jeff Trepanye.

This was Andre Miller.

Trying to think who else.

The other bad team I used to play with was the Nets that had Yi Jianleon on it.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And I used to, I was like, an originator of small balls.

Start over.

No.

You weren't that far up.

Wow, okay.

Guys, you were playing five out with Yi Gianli.

Yeah, and I had him killing.

He was killing.

And people would, I had Anthony Morrow in the starting lineup, shooting threes.

I had everything spread.

Everybody was like, I used to love, when when I played 2K.

That was my thing.

Like, I take a team that in real life is bad,

but I make them into the greatest,

the greatest.

Not so different.

No, I see.

I lost it.

You did.

I should have kept doing the bane.

Now it's gone.

I never even noticed that you stopped.

Katie, do you feel the pressure of the male gays on you right now?

Or is that just not?

Oh, well, I'm heterosexual.

I do have two male gays here, but I.

The future's female.

With a Z.

Yeah, that's how long did that take you to say

What is that thing?

There's that cat meowing.

I think Pete went this way.

I think Pete went this way.

No, no, I can't go this way.

How about this way?

Come on, I know, but now I'm gonna get

out of luck now.

All right through the garage.

Can you uh

somebody saw a body?

Oh,

can it be over yet?

I'm gonna have to use my uh little rocks.

I can't fight that one with the swords.

Yeah, I don't know, man.

I mean, is Pete gonna do something at some point?

Symbio, you gonna do something?

He's just gonna spazz over in the corner.

I don't remember this part.

There's a lot of throwing stuff.

Well, they're looking up because apparently they're looking up.

Oh, you went up on the roof.

The spider.

The spider.

I like

it.

I never did this.

Cool.

I'm all about making things fall down on people.

Yep.

In this game.

Pablo, what about you?

Sports moments.

I once played FL Blitz

till like 3 a.m.

at my friend's house in high school.

He lived in Howard Beach, Queens.

Get up, get up and go.

Don't make me start over.

Much like

the most famous resident of Howard Beach Queens, John Gotti, has done to many of his victims.

You got shot and just died.

They see you more.

I was in Howard Beach, kind of place, by the way, where like we went for Halloween, and if you exit us, it's like that kind of place.

Shout out to Howard Beach.

Played NFL Blitz on my friend's pullout sofa until like 3 a.m.

And it was

tied, went to overtime, and then again, tied, went to overtime, double overtime, tied at the end of that.

This is like the big crescendo of the entire,

honestly, my childhood.

And

finally, we were getting ready.

We were like amped.

And it said, tie game.

And it fing ended.

Oh, no way.

It was just like, yo, it wasn't missing.

Like, no, we didn't build in the possibility of a third overtime.

Do you want to do this?

Because I feel like you didn't get to do any of the fun stuff.

Yeah, I don't think I mean got to actually be Spider-Man at all.

I didn't, but I also don't remember 90% of the controls.

Do you want to try it?

That's not one of them.

Well, pressing.

Squares had a hit.

And also, you can do the thing if you're in a pinch where you press down on the two sticks, L3 and R3.

Yeah.

And...

He's so whiny.

Also, I realize I don't hear anything you guys are saying.

Yeah, we're trying to help him.

In terms of just how the multitasking of this entire episode has gone, Amin is definitely the most tunnel vision when it comes to what he can pay attention to.

L3R3, just push it down.

Kaboom.

Kaboom.

Amin is reduced to fucking 50s Batman sound effects.

Spider-Man's helping you.

Oh, this part.

Which one is this part?

You're gonna be MJ again.

Am I?

I think you become Peter, don't you?

But I think you're MJ finding Peter

in the subway tunnel.

And then...

Yeah, this is the annoying part where.

I don't think this part's that annoying.

I think it's quick, is it not?

MJ!

MJ, are you okay?

Are you okay?

It's hard because it's bright and this is dark, so.

Yeah.

Good luck.

You're right.

This might not be that long, though.

I think this is pretty quick, but I could be wrong.

Peter's not being very nice.

Do I shoot him?

Not yet.

I don't want to hurt you.

Ma'am.

But I will.

I don't want to hurt you.

How are you going to hurt him?

Alright.

It's possible.

She got a weapon.

You're not my first.

Like, oh.

Miles is looking kind of hot to me lately.

Oh.

That'll hurt him.

I think it means being affected by the symbiote, guys.

I am the symbiote.

What's he even doing?

Feeding?

I think he's just having a tantrum.

As boys are wont to do.

Watch out, Ikea table.

This is Dan when he loses that.

What's it called?

I don't want to hurt you.

I don't want to.

That's me.

Just trying to show you some TikToks.

Oh, that's right.

The vibration.

Oh, yeah.

Sound doesn't do well.

I mean, that's true.

That's canon, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

By the way, to be like an invincible symbiote, like, that's a, that kind of sucks as a weakness, right?

Like, oh, it's loud and wow, I can't take this sound.

I have mesophonia.

Exactly.

I can kill everything but a high school band.

Oh, high school band?

I have a high school cafeteria.

Just that chatter, like, ah!

Remember when somebody in the cafeteria would go, oh,

and it would start a whole thing.

We got, they threatened to take our dance, school dance away from us because we would just do that for no reason.

We thought it was funny.

And they were like, if you guys do this every day, no more dance.

That's how you know.

It's like, that's not like the kids are being insolent and need to be punished.

That's like the the teacher's like, you f ⁇ ing annoying.

You're annoying me.

You're making me think something's going down.

You're crying, wolf.

Yep.

And there is no wolf.

That is an evolution.

That sound, though, does even awaken me now

to feel like something's happening.

Someone's about to get wrecked.

Hold triangle when you're off in the air next to somebody.

That's fun.

Yeah.

Hold triangle.

You can web swing them.

Yeah.

You swing them and you slam them down on the ground and they bounce back up.

He's not listening to us because he's playing.

What group were you in in high school?

What was like your stereotype in high school?

Were you a Peter Parker?

Who me?

Yeah, were you like a jock?

Were you like a

Dr.

Connors?

Who me?

They were back on Dr.

Connors.

No, I was, I was, I was like, I hung out with everybody.

I didn't have a group.

Yeah.

That's what they all say.

Yeah.

That's probably what I would have said too.

There you go.

That's the one I knew you'd like.

He bounces right back up and then you get at him again.

Fun.

Bye, bird.

Bye-bye, birdie.

Katie, as you're giving advice to Amin about how to play this video game better, what is the biggest lesson you've learned in your life playing video games?

Video games taught me that sometimes when something's going down, I forget everything I know and I just panic.

Let me ask you guys a question: you guys think that there are people who are genetically predisposed to be better at video games?

The way that people are genetically predisposed to anything.

It's like if you're predisposed to having

a mind that can retain.

Yeah, like what if you have to build the perfect gamer,

physical you'd have muscle good muscle memory.

I don't have that.

You would have the ability to retain information, like square means this and triangle means this, and recall that information in a moment of high intensity.

You would have good motor skills, obviously.

Yeah, I think you'd be able to multi-tang.

Hand-eye coordination.

Yeah, I mean, you can.

These are all things I'm not so good at.

Evil.

Yeah, triangle.

Go triangle so you can go up to that guy that has the.

Well, now you have no powers, so that sucks.

So the biggest lesson you learned is to stop doing what Amin currently seems to be doing, which is having a panic attack while playing video games.

It's don't mash buttons.

It's like take stock of what's happening,

who are the real threats, who needs to be dealt with.

I need like one of those.

Oh, shit, I'm about to die.

How do I charge up the other?

Down arrow, but you don't have the

enough to do it because you're not playing well.

Because the game is judging you.

The game's like, he sucks.

We don't can't heal.

We can't keep this going.

Hubble, how often would you say you play video games?

I stopped truly in the so after I played Red Dead Redemption.

Keep doing the same move on that guy.

I'm here to mash some buttons.

So Spider-Man 2,

that was the most I've spent.

And then I bought Ghost of Toshima, and I haven't really played that yet.

I'm like, have to.

I know.

Did I just

die?

I lasted a lot longer, I want to point out than Pablo.

Both died.

Yeah, not a lot longer.

A lot longer.

I killed less people, though.

I killed less people, but I was alive, and that's what matters.

So, I'd like Katie to end our show by narrating what she's doing because we both

out of this guy.

I'm gonna knock this guy up in the air, dodge out of the way, whatever that is, yeah, go up and kill the guys that are trying to shoot me.

Yes,

yes,

yes,

more hunters.

Oh, no, the innocent.

Oh.

Oh, no.

Forgot about this.

Possible.

You're

welcome.

Oh, now they're coming in to tell us to stop doing this.

Cortez, get the f out of here.

We're choosing costumes.

Oh, this is a whole PTFO.

I mean, I don't know.

We found out that Amin does not have the ability to multitask, and it's really kind of endearing.

Yep.

Not when playing video games.

I get very, very, very focused.

What I found out today is that both of you guys care about video games to the point where you are unwilling to compromise your success at video games while also trying to make a show.

What is this Zoot suit, Spider-Man, motherfucker?

Save the music center or whatever.

So order of being good at this video game, Katie, number one, me, number two.

I don't know about that.

I mean, number three.

How about that?

An obvious, an obvious hierarchy.

I'm not so sorry.

This is creepy.

Katie's one, but I

all right.

There it is.

I can hear Gortez complaining that you guys need to stop doing this.

Sorry.

We just wanted to show everybody all the cool features of this very cool video game that we like so.

We found out that we're probably going to keep playing this, even though the episode might be over already by the time I say this sentence.

So, two-parter.

Thanks for having us, Pablo.

This has been really fun.

You're welcome.

Everybody behind the glasses.

Absolutely.

Unessential to what happens from here on out.

This has been Pablo Torre finds out a Meadowlark media production.

And I'll talk to you next time.