Inside the "Jeopardy!" Gauntlet: Share & Tell with Katie Nolan, Dan Soder, and Pablo

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I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

Katie Nolan, you foal, you've foiled my first two soldiers.

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I was explaining to Dan on the way over here how legit this podcast is and that you do such like interesting investigations into things that are like fascinating to listen to.

And he was like, I thought this was the podcast.

I was like, oh, no, we're the goof off day.

We're the day where they're like, enough of the real stuff.

Here are these two goobers.

It's essential essential to our collective mental health that we have a day a week where it's just like, can we just like f ⁇ around?

Yes.

And I think it's

every day of my life.

That's right.

It's every day of my life.

That is.

Lucky charm cereal at that.

Like the real unhealthy cinnamon toast crunch, little CTC for dinner.

I don't know why Applejack's always forgotten.

Because they're not that unhealthy.

There's an apple in them.

So I think of those as healthy cereals.

For those who are not watching on YouTube and the DraftKings Network.

What's your problem?

Are you mad at me?

Why don't you support Katie Nolan?

Yeah, why don't you like her?

march through celebrity jeopardy history

i want to telestrate this to the extent that we can actually break this down and dissect it okay because for those who did not see your quarterfinal run

how would you summarize dan how would you summarize what they may have missed in the quarterfinal matchup that's right uh it was a thrill ride where she came out strong in the first round you know is just nailing all the questions chef jamie oliver's website says that if you use lamb instead of beef for cottage pie, it should go by this occupational lamb.

Katie.

What is Shepherd's pie?

You got it.

I did.

Katie.

What is a Leo?

Correct.

Katie.

Again.

What is a Levy?

My Chevy to the Levy, yes.

Then a little detective work by Christopher.

Christopher Maloney.

Detective Stabler.

Detective Stabler gets on his detective work and starts...

catching up a little bit.

A little bit.

But then Katie has a sizable lead for Final Jeopardy.

And then the reveal is she did the math wrong.

Math not your favorite part of the game.

You just had to wager more than 3,500.

Right.

And you're a tie.

And I wagered 3,500.

You wagered exactly 3,500.

Oh, my God.

Just to bring Katie

exactly tied.

And we're going to be going through a tiebreaker quit.

No!

Come on!

Tide in Final Jeopardy, coming down to a final death shootout.

One question.

I've never seen this before.

Drink up.

A famous New Orleans street is named after this dynasty that ruled France for most of the 17th and 18th centuries.

Katie.

What is bourbon?

It is bourbon.

What a great game.

Katie Nolan, you are going to the semifinals.

Fun fact, I'm the first contestant to take

any Jeopardy episode into the fifth round.

Oh, because there's three in Slovakia.

So it was technically the fifth round.

So that's something to be proud of.

So you're a historical figure.

Yeah.

The speed, the clarity, the

easiest question on earth.

The unbiased reporting of her fiancé in the recounting.

The grace.

So this was different.

This is the semi-final.

This was different.

Different.

This was very different.

So it's Katie Nolan, it's Steven Weber, who you might remember from Chicago Med.

Wings,

wings for me.

He was the guy, the first guy your dad's age, you thought was cute, if you were me.

And I don't think he is my dad's age, but in my head, he was like an adult man.

Would you say he was

a crush on?

Would you say he was the Zaddy prototype?

Yes, I would.

Thank you.

Curly locks.

Yeah.

Well, you got him and Tim Daly.

It's just

Legion of Doom.

It's the Road Warriors of Handsome of early 90s Hungary.

They were cute.

You got, I mean, I mean, they, that show, by the way, FYI, is stacked because you also,

it's not just Steven Weber and Tim Daly on wings.

And yeah, we're going to go down a little wings side road here.

We also got Crystal Bernard as the female protagonist.

She's unbelievable.

Yep.

A lot of people don't realize Tony Shaloube.

No.

AKA Monk.

No way.

Played the taxi driver, Antonio Scarpetti.

Oh, shit.

Scarpetti.

Playing Italian.

Scarpacci, excuse me.

Carpaccio.

And then

laying in the wings.

Wings.

The dauber of the program, for any of you coach fans out there with Craig T.

Nelson, he really was, I liked him and Dauber because they were both white dudes with extraordinarily deep voices.

Lol Gang.

Lol Gang, dude.

Thomas Hayden Church.

Oh, yeah.

As Lol Mather, the mechanic.

I do not remember anything about this show.

Oh, I actually watched this as a kid.

You started out, but I don't, I don't remember.

USA used to run back-to-back wings from 10 a.m.

to 11 a.m.

That was like Las Vegas that they do.

I think now it's Las Vegas.

Okay, and you just wake up and be like, nothing, nothing, nothing.

Wings, whatever.

Let's go to Nantucket for a half.

Yeah, what does this small airport in Nantucket have going on?

Sure.

I want to know the inner working exhibit airport.

Yeah, it was an airport on Nantucket Island.

But

that's over.

And what he is now is a nemesis.

I mean, Katie Nolan cannot do an episode of Celebrity Jeopardy without getting into a blood feud.

She gets into beefs from a white guy from TV that he loves.

With a white child.

With a handsome white dude from the 90s.

Yep.

Oops.

And also, Dulay Hill is there.

Shout out to Dulay Hill.

Dule Hill, the sweetest.

Westwood.

He was so nice.

He seemed to like.

He was so nice.

He also had done, I don't think I'm giving away any secrets because I think that they had to write when it was taped on the corner of the screen because that happened in the episode.

These were taped on the same day.

So Dule had just won his semifinal and then we did the final.

So he was back-to-back games.

And three rounds of Jeopardy in a row is a lot.

Yeah.

Of Jeopardy in a row.

You packed it out.

Six total.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So there's, there's already some psychological.

This was like a year ago to me.

It's very, it's been a very strange experience.

It was awesome.

It was a very long time ago.

I have witnessed a lot of very fun sports games, a lot of sports games.

What?

I've been to a lot of fun games.

I've been to a lot of cool concerts where maybe my friends were performing.

I've been to special tapings.

This was the most nerve-wracking thing I've ever watched in the audience, ever.

I kept thinking of Dan Soder as i was watching this for the first time um on abc and i want to relive this by going through the the the plot of how this unfolded because it didn't start off great for our girl katie nolan it did not start off great it was um it was a lot like this numerical place names for 500 of the states you can stand in

the middle this would hurt at home i know katie what is nevada i'm sorry no

It's actually Utah in the north.

Utah, Ken.

Shut up, Stephen.

Stephen.

Shut up, Stephen.

You take that humor back to Nantucket.

That killed me.

Look, he's from Colorado.

There is a picture.

I won't get those wrong anymore.

Somewhere, there is a picture at my mom's house of a 10-year-old Dan in a dinosaur t-shirt.

in all four states at once.

Because that's what you do when you go to the four corners.

You do the crab walk

thing and you you're like i'm technically in four states playing twister across yes four states

colorado yes uh arizona new mexico correct never gonna mess that up again yeah made of four corners but that was that answer um or or incorrect answer yeah thanks um it it it seemed to get in into your head a little bit in conjunction with stephen weber being a guy who was poking and prodding whole show and whole show and also uh buzzing in with a speed that put Katie Nolan, we had praised previously as a champion buzzer-inner to shame.

Yeah, one thing I'm not proud of watching the tape back is how obvious I made it when I buzzed and it didn't buzz.

Like when I did

the faces I made, I'm like, I really wish I didn't do that.

Well,

we had watched Celebrity Jeopardy the season before

and noticed BJ Novak.

BJ Novak got very mad, very upset when he was like, come on.

So we kind of knew where not to go.

Like, Katie knew, I think, where not to go.

But I didn't notice until watching it back last night how close I got to getting there.

It's very easy to piss you off.

And when she missed that question, I did react like a football dad that cares too much.

I went, God damn it.

And it's like, don't touch me.

And I was like, don't touch me.

She knows I'm from Colorado.

The up for you

was a category that I just got to point out.

That was wildly impressive.

Really?

Now, I'm going to tell you.

You know, Daniel's what I'm talking about.

and this is, I'm excited to tell the story because I told this story to Katie while I was going on.

I watch Jeopardy with Katie every night.

Word categories.

She loves word puzzles.

She does crosswords.

She just knows words.

She likes puns, all that shit.

Words are her strength.

She's a very good writer.

Yes.

Word categories in Jeopardy, she smokes.

So when there was an acronym one, I was like, oh, this shit.

And then she started cooking on it.

This is how animal idiom brain teasers went.

Animal idiom brain brain teasers

for 200.

Oh, glad.

This is her foods with a lot of cute.

Please be patient for a moment.

H-Y-H.

Katie?

What is hold your horses?

That's it.

Ah!

Yeah.

Look at you so bad.

Shush.

Animal idiom brain teasers for six.

Don't forget how many other single people are out there in the dating pool.

T-A-P-O-F-I-T-S.

This is so hard.

Katie.

There are plenty of fish in the sea.

I got it.

What is happening?

There's your wheel of fortune.

And he isn't his daily double yet, so he's getting nervous.

Yes.

Oh my God.

OMG.

All right, let's do,

since he likes it so much, we'll keep doing animal idiom brain teasers for 800.

Make all the necessary preparations before you start.

G-Y-D-I-A-R.

Haiti.

What is get your ducks in a row?

Yes.

What the hell?

Oh, my God.

Oh, gosh.

Let's do Animal Idiom Brain Teasers for 1,000.

I like this.

You can do anything you wish or go anywhere you want in this life.

T-W-I-Y-O.

Katie.

What is the world is your oyster?

Wow.

You have found your category.

No.

He said nope.

God, I'm talking crazy.

About the fourth correct answer,

I felt like Billy Hoyle in White Men Can't Jump and foods that start with the letter Q.

And I leaned over to Ken Jennings.

And I swear to God, this is real because I had to do it to somebody.

I was like, I have to quote white men can't jump to somebody.

Yes.

And I leaned over to Ken Jennings' wife, who was sitting an empty seat.

And then her, and I said, she's in the zone.

And she goes, what?

And I went, it's from White Men Can't Jump.

Who is Rosie Perez?

Is a question she might have actually asked you in that month.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She would have been like, who's Rosie Perez?

And you're like, Billy, the Stoogie Brothers are going to kill you.

Shout out to Ken Jennings' wife in the audience with a blanket over her leg.

Like a football wife.

It was very cool.

She had the blanket, she knows how the studio gets cold.

Like when you go to a high school football game and you see a family that's had older kids come through and play high school football, they have different things.

They have like a cooler

message.

The seat cushion that goes onto the bedroom.

The mom always has a blanket on her legs because they know.

And Ken Jennings' wife knows that about the Jeopardy studio.

This is how Katie Nolan climbs back into the game.

Yeah.

Only to set up Steven Weber, who is kind of a little

playing possum, I thought, because then he gets into the true daily double yeah

and at that point katie nolan i thought it was over is stressed yeah out that's right yeah aretha franklin's 2018 obit cited this song as a harbinger of feminism carried by a voice that would accept nothing less what is respect you just doubled your money steven

wow

When I was watching it, I was like, oh, f.

Yeah.

Like this.

I was like, oh, damn, this was a good run.

This was funny, some funny funny moments.

I'm sweating through my shirt.

I don't sweat a lot in my armpits.

I sweat.

I sweated through my shirt.

I was, um, and I was thinking, because again, same day.

So earlier in the day, Dan was doing a podcast.

Shout out, Bill Burr.

He had to do Bill Burr.

And I was like, he's like, if it were anybody else, I think I would consider.

I have a lot of friends in L.A.

He's like, my Bill Burr.

And I was like, I get that.

Yeah, I'm recording Celebrity Jeopardy.

And I was like,

but he but we were lucky because it made you be in la so when we were so we were out there together but anyway i so i did the first episode and i won but i almost lost and in that moment i was thinking oh no dan's not gonna get to me on jeopardy but i won so then we go to this next one and at that point i thought

oh no he's only he's gonna see me lose he's not gonna see me win This is a real bummer.

I brought him here just to lose in his face.

And then I was thinking at the time, I'm going to go online and buy every DVD of wings and burn it like Fahrenheit 451.

I'm going to go burn all the copies of it.

Just burn it off the planet.

I'm going to ask for it to be released from Paramount.

It was a pleasure to burn.

Yeah.

It was, man, it was scary.

But it really helped that he was being a jerk.

Yeah.

Because then I was like, let's go.

The end of Double Jeopardy.

That.

My friends, is where this story really escalates.

New York Times obituaries for a million, Ken.

600.

We can do 600.

This surrealist's 1989 obit noted, when he hallucinated in the late 1920s, the whole world hallucinated with him.

Stephen?

Who is Dolly?

Correct again.

New York Times obituaries for eight.

That weird sound.

A growl.

His 2018 obit described him as a physicist and author who roamed the cosmos from a wheelchair.

Stephen?

Who's Hawking?

Yes.

Obituaries for a thousand.

Let's finish it off.

This actor's 2016 obit mentioned he had outlived by about 34 years an erroneous report of his death that made him a cult figure.

Stephen.

Who's a Vagoda?

You just ran that category, Stephen.

Very good.

Very good, Stephen.

Very good, very good.

I've got the god thumb.

Stephen, is one of the advantages of getting older being very good at obituary trivia?

Yes.

Let me tell you something, man.

Okay, seriously?

I read the New York Times obituary.

Looking for your friends?

Look.

Oh!

I don't know if I have heard a Jeopardy crowd turn into like Rucker Park.

Yeah, it was what you didn't see was me running up and down the audience with a

bullhorn.

Oh, that's how we play around.

Half lady, half amazing.

His wings got clipped.

Oh,

yeah, they really were.

it turned into a deaf jam

And which was great.

It was

man, it was fun to watch It was very that episode was so fun to watch because there was a good it's like wrestling good heel.

There was a good baby face We had real heat in commercial breaks, which I didn't realize until afterwards that most of his shit talking didn't make air because it was during commercial breaks.

And so I think in the months since we did that, that, I told Dan, I was like, I'm worried that I'm going to look like a real jerk with that line about the obituaries if that makes it in, because I don't think any of the stuff he was doing to me made it to air.

But watching it back, it did.

How would you characterize what he was doing in between?

He was just trying to get Dan's attention.

He was talking to Dan in the audience, and he kept any.

He was talking shit.

Yeah, I know, but I was trying to be a little nice about it.

But anytime I would say anything, he would go, you got real lucky with this one to Dan.

Like, he wouldn't address

me.

He identified Dan in the crowd because Dan, of course, was running through the aisles with a bullet.

I was pretty loud about it.

Addressed Dan, but like, it was like I said something to him, and then he would turn to a guy, my, the, my man, who wasn't even on stage, and turn to him and address him instead of answering.

How I walked Katie to stage.

I held her hand like this, and then I walked her on stage.

I said, You're safe here.

I'll come and get you after the game.

That's why Stephen was talking.

Because you delicately set her down at the dais.

And I said, I'll come back for you.

Don't move, okay?

Don't wander away.

If he needs to speak to someone, I'll be in the audience.

Speak to me.

Yeah, so that after the like fifth time he did that, I was like, I can't really genuinely.

I think you said, I'm sitting right here.

Or I said, Stop doing that.

And then you went, Okay.

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Triple jeopardy is upon us.

This is when it happens.

And Stephen Weber, at this point, just for clarity, had more than doubled your score.

He'd run the category, the OBIT stuff.

It was a great burn, but clearly motivated by a

great heel work.

A fear.

Yeah.

You could say a fear, sure.

That I sensed, at least, as your friend.

But that fear

didn't show up when this happened.

There's an app for that, 900.

The answer there.

Let's go!

Hey!

Yeah.

Now, a big wager here could really change this game, Katie.

What'll it be?

All in.

Bam.

Hands to the center of the table.

$9,000.

There's an app for that.

Here's your clue.

A 2,000-miler is someone who has hiked this entire route from Maine to Georgia.

What is the Appalachian Trail?

Appalachian, Appalachian.

The pure excitement.

The pure excitement.

Whole new ball game.

That's exhilarating.

It's pretty good, right?

Yeah, I liked that quite a bit.

The transparency of emotion was my uh favorite uh thing to track with you yeah you could watch it in all forms you got to see her become frustrated become sad become despondent and then get back grab a little lightning and then start moving i'm an open book folks well you end up getting in triple jeopardy all three daily doubles yeah i was on purpose i hunted you knew where to go i was hunting i was like look at this point because i had we had talked about it before and it was like something like the the numbers show that even if you get them wrong, it's better than letting your competitor get them statistically.

So I was like, okay, what I have to do is take the daily doubles off the board.

So I'm going to.

Wait, how do you hunt them?

You look around like the six, eight.

Well, in triple jeopardy, what are the numbers?

I don't know.

It's like three, six.

Three, six, nine.

So you look around like the middle, middle to the bottom.

Very rarely are they the actual bottom, but sometimes, but usually like those, you know, bottom ones.

And so I went hunting for them and I found them and I took them off the board.

There's one daily double where you almost like look off screen, it seems like.

Before I wager.

Yes.

It was at Dan.

I was trying to see how much I should do because I genuinely was like, I don't know.

It was after I had gone.

College football signs where it was like a picture of a cat, Morgan, duck, a phone.

I was like 3,000.

And then I had another guy in the same color hat, but different color, the same hat as

with orange gloves called.

Yeah, I had done, so I had just done the Holtz hour, which is the all-in where I pushed the chips in.

That was the the first, because I knew I needed to do that.

Then at that point, when the next daily double hit, I think I was either tied or in the, it was closer.

Yes.

And I didn't want to wager too much

yet.

But I didn't want to wager too much and lose it and be too far behind.

Steven's reed is at risk here, Katie.

What will you do?

But it's the first clue in the category, so I'm a little nervous.

But let's do

Let's do

5,000.

All right.

And I can't remember if I looked at you before I said it or as I was saying it because you either gave me a thumbs up that it was the right idea or you might, I mean, did you do this?

Did you give me a full price is right five?

I don't think so.

I think I might have been saying five.

But I was like, we had somehow come to the exact same, and you were like, I was just looking for support because if he went like this, I would have been like, I mean,

all of it.

I don't know.

I was way on board.

I just needed someone to be like, that's good.

That's my whole philosophy the entire time cornering her was grip it and rip it.

He did great.

So for it.

He did so great.

And this is why Steven Weber fing hated Dan Soder's guts.

No, he loved Dan Soder.

I wanted the silk shirt that boxing corners have where

I could call her Katie Daily Devil Nolan and I'd come in with like you know a towel and a bucket.

Yeah, you could have put Vaseline on my face.

Commercial breaks coming into your eyebrows.

Yeah, just leave a big chunk of it.

Yeah, so this brings us to final jeopardy.

Okay, the category is television history.

I'll just recap the scores here.

Doulet Hill, thank you for coming.

6,700.

Steven Weber, $27,400.

Katie Nolan, $36,400.

Everything

is up for grabs if your name is not Dule Hill.

But the bloodthirst,

a final jeopardy went like this.

According to the BBC, this 1953 event did more than any other to make television a mainstream medium.

Doulet Hill, we come to you first, $6,700, shaking his head.

Yeah, no.

What did you you write down?

Yeah, no.

I don't know.

That is correct.

Did he come up with the correct response?

What is the end?

What is the end?

Is it the end for you?

How much did you risk?

It's the end for us.

$27,400.

You bet it all.

Tied with Doulet at the moment.

Katie Nolan has

$2,400.

Did you know right then?

Yes, because I knew I didn't wager.

I was like, I'm not sure.

It's a little early for Beetle Mania.

I know.

Apparently, the big ratings hit for the BBC in 1953.

The coronation of Queen Elizabeth.

Wow.

That's why people bought TVs.

So Katie's not correct.

If she wagered at all, we have a very interesting situation.

No, she didn't.

19,000.

The true joy.

The real joy.

Jeopardy.

Finally.

I mean, what a game.

Watch him be like, give me my thumb back.

Give me my.

He's like, give it back to me.

You know what's funny is that was the Arthur Smith Saints game mic catch.

You know, and they, you know, and they caught, what the f was that?

What are you doing?

That was her going, great.

You didn't even do the LA hands.

You grabbed his.

Can we zoom in on the thumb grabbing?

I was.

I held it up.

I held it up.

And he was like, I'm done with this.

The alpha.

Katie Nolan.

Give me your fucking thumb.

I'm going to break your thumb.

You think that was cute?

Don't f ⁇ with me.

I'm Katie Nolan.

We're so great.

You speed it up.

Katie Nolan, both Andre the Giant, but also Chun Lee, if you win a fight in Street Fighter.

Just like the unbelievable,

like giggling, like

I know exactly which celebration you're talking about.

That was Katie Woody.

It was awesome.

That was very cool.

It was f ⁇ ing awesome when just being there.

It was very wonderful.

It was just a cool feeling.

I know it's stupid.

I know.

I know it's celebrity jeopardy i know but i watch jeopardy all the time and you never are going to get a chance to play even just like that construct of a game never mind with how difficult the questions are being able to like

hunt it hunting daily doubles was so fun where i was just like oh i'm like it like you said early i think about this a lot when you're like it's like a make-a-wish situation i was like oh i get to i get to do what the really smart people do and like did it was so fun it was so fun it was so cool

ken was so great yeah it was awesome it It was really awesome.

What's the post-game like?

So the best moment is, I'm very glad that they got it on camera, that they sent me these pictures and I was like, oh,

Dan was allowed up on the soundstage.

I looked over and you were walking up on the stage.

And I just ran over to Dan and I jumped on him.

It was the best.

And they got a picture of it and it made me cry.

It was really sweet.

It was very cool.

It was very cool.

It was awesome.

And you get in the car and you drive back to your hotel and you're just like, I can't tell anybody.

The driver was super sweet.

The driver she gave her for the day,

he was with her for the the first episode, then drove her back to the hotel between the two episodes.

And he was like, it was like Rocky too.

He like threw down blessings for her.

He blessed me when I got out of the car when we first got there.

And then she did it on the second one where she was even leaving the car.

She's like, hey, you want to throw me down a blessing?

He's like, Andos Gurrio, Madame.

And not to say I finally

said, I want you to win.

Not to say I'm waking up from a weed nap.

I'm not in the hospital after the birth of our son.

I just took a deep weed nap.

He's like, I'm scared.

Is that what you want me to say?

Not to say I violated the NDA, but when I came out of the second taping, he went like this.

And I gave him a thumbs up and he was like, yes.

He was so happy for me.

It was so sweet.

What happens next?

So next is the final.

That's January 23rd.

As of right now, we know it's me.

And Lisa Ann Walters from...

I thought it was going to be a different Lisa Ann and I was like, whoa.

When people were saying Lisa Ann at first, I was like, really?

And then I was like, oh, Walters.

Okay, got it, got it, got it.

Yeah, from Avid Elementary.

Yeah, very good.

Or Parent Trap, if you're from my generation.

Or many other things.

She's been

working for a very long time.

She's a wonderful, sweet woman.

So that's what we know.

That's January 23rd, the finals of Celebrity Jeopardy.

So you're waiting for a third?

Yes, we do not have a third yet.

You're waiting for a third person to have acted on a Dick Wolf-produced television show.

Yeah, pretty much.

Stephen Weber, Chicago Med.

Oh, wow.

As well as Wigs.

Dick Wolfe is sitting somewhere in an office like Dr.

Claw.

Katie Nolan,

you foiled my first two soldiers.

The third one won't miss.

The Mortal Kombat totem pole that leads to iced tea.

Yeah.

What is

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No, I'm legitimate man.

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So that was a special beginning to share and tell.

I do want to bring in a story, though.

Oh, okay.

You know, because we talk about stories here.

A story about how to pronounce the word.

Do we say vase?

Do we pronounce vase?

Oh, I say,

I think I say vase, which I think is split in a different

both wrong.

Are two different things.

A vase and a vase are not two different things.

Look it up.

How?

I don't know.

I thought that a long time ago.

Maybe I'm wrong, but look it up.

By who?

Vase feels like a fancier vase.

It's like Target Target.

It's not.

You think a vase is different than a vase?

I think a vase is.

If you had to guess,

you would bring it to it.

I don't remember.

I just remember my podcast.

Dan was so instinctive.

It's my favorite.

When he has the instinctive confidence, and the second you ask a follow-up and you just see his face go, well, isn't it?

One time.

So Nate Bargetti used to call him Soder Fax.

And Katie's learning that they're bountiful.

One time Nate and I were drinking beers, and he goes, when did Red Red Fox die?

And I go, like 1984.

And he goes, I mean,

is that his artifact?

And yeah, and then he looked it up and it was completely wrong.

It was like in the 90s.

But the quickness with this.

But I'm pretty sure.

Vase and I don't know.

That might be.

There'd be no way to look it up.

Are vase and vase two different things?

Is what you have to type?

It doesn't even make sense.

Are you writing a V-A-H-S?

I don't even know.

There is, I like how they're both, for people who are listening to the podcast, they're both Googling it.

This is not going anywhere.

No.

There is no way to distinguish.

No, that's, but I would just want to prove it.

What we can do, though.

This is what relationships are, right?

Scoring points.

You guys are actually

here.

We need to know.

I think I was absolutely wrong.

Two different.

I thought one was you could look through it and one you couldn't.

I thought like a vase.

That feels like a follow-up.

You mean like transparent and translucent?

Yeah, but I feel like in the vase and vase world, they're like in the flower world.

In the vase and vase world.

In the world, if you'll follow me there.

Come with me to the world of pottery.

I swear to God, I don't know.

I wouldn't swear to any God, just to be safe.

Well, how do we even know God's real?

We don't.

So there you go.

I'm agnostic, so I can swear to whatever I want.

I'm swearing to a thing that feels bigger.

Viz and Vaz, the same difference between agnostic and atheist.

Like one does not believe in God actively, the other one just doesn't know.

Thank you.

I think that's the perfect analogy for what I'm trying to say.

And that is, is that we're all full of shit.

But I'm sure to God that's real.

And if you're not, anyway, let him get you us.

We're not even at the story that we need to talk talk about.

I don't care.

I'm fired up.

I don't give a rat.

Appalachian, Appalachian.

Who cares?

And by the way, I saw you take your time.

I saw you line up the shot on that and then swing through.

Good job.

You know, I learned Appalachian when I was little, but somewhere along the line, I thought I learned I was wrong and that it's Appalachian.

But then when I said Appalachian and he said Appalachian back to me, I had a moment where I was like, am I going to lose this on a technicality?

It's a real Veys-Vas situation.

Two different things, Appalachia and Appalachia.

I would like to bring you guys, though, to to a real vase-or vas situation that happened in Alabama.

Yeah.

It's definitely a vase.

This is a New Year's Eve party in Mountain Brook, Alabama.

And I was on Twitter watching these dispatches come in.

Can we throw them on screen, please?

Because it started with this quote: Casual Thursday is the user.

We have a man stuck in a decorative urn at this Mountain Brook house party.

I repeat, we have a drunk man stuck in a large decorative urn at this Mountain Brook house party.

Details as they develop.

Great.

Detail developed.

He was laughing at first, but now he's starting to get upset.

Yes, of course.

The women are trying to comfort him.

There is talk of attempting to break the

first thing I'd think.

I have never identified more with a news story as a guy growing up that would do the dumb sh to get a laugh.

And then I still do it.

I know.

No.

I was going to say, you mean you're talking to the lady who spent a New Year's Eve party locked in a dog crate.

Yeah.

Because she'd get in the dog crate.

And I was like, ha ha, so funny.

And then they lock you in.

And then you're like,

okay.

I always thought it was funny.

Let me out of the dog crate.

I always thought it was really funny to go to parties in high school.

And if the car was too full, I'd ride in the trunk.

And I always thought it was funny to come out of the trunk at the party.

Some of your friends don't have good shocks.

And you go over stuff and you get real hurt laying in the trunk.

And then everyone opens the trunk thinking you're going to come out.

And you're like,

so I've done the thing where you're like, ha ha, ha,

ha, ha.

But an urn.

Now, see, an urn, though?

Well, I bet bet it doesn't look like an urn.

Well, we should see what it looks like.

We should.

It's an urn.

I am doing everything a finger.

It's me.

That would be so me.

Damn it.

Oh, my God.

Who is the

sweater off?

He just got that Leslie.

Who's your guy?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, my God.

Leslie.

I'm about to bust.

This is my brother.

Is it?

Is this a work party?

Look at that man doing nothing.

Oh my god, that guy doesn't care.

Dude,

Chrizzly knows best is in some real trouble right here.

What if the funniest thing would be he's still having fun, so this is early days, huh?

What if it was just he had to take his sweater off and that was the one thing?

Oh my god.

Oh my god, I'd be so embarrassed.

So I have to shout out.

Oh, they didn't show the relief.

I wanted to see him stand up.

This is a guy who watches videos of people getting their dreads shaved off.

He needed that moment.

Shout out if you're like me.

It's very fun watching.

Pimple Popper.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's Pimple Popper.

It's the same itch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Pimple Popper just kind of wigs me out.

They've gotten too much.

Can I just say now they're doing too much for you?

I love Pimple Popper, but now they're doing those.

It's like a whole now they have prizes coming out.

And I'm like, dude.

Dude, is that a Dakota ring?

After they

squeeze some in.

They have to like cut cut a line.

Where's this magician's scarf?

Just push it out and you go, oh my gosh.

If I were Dr.

Pimple Popper, I would get good at sleight of hand, and then I would have one of those Matrix trackers

where I'd go,

you're in the Matrix.

That was put in me.

I want to credit Pablo Torrey Finds Out correspondent, Christy Yamaguchi Maine.

That is the user.

Shout out Yamaguchi Maine.

Found the video on Reddit, posted it, got an anonymous video from that Ifrit angle, sent in, and then interviewed this guy, which gave me some background detail on who this gentleman is.

Well, I'll tell you right now, his name is either Cooper or Cameron.

Roll tied.

I don't know.

Daddy, I don't know.

I climbed in the urn and sat Native American style.

Now I kick it out.

My hips are hurt.

My hippies.

My hips hurt.

My knees.

His name is Connor.

Of course.

How dare you?

His name is Connor.

He works for an architectural firm in Birmingham.

no specializing in high-end residential design well i don't know about that um that urn yeah how does it how do you do architecture and don't know the measurements you have a design brain and you didn't realize that that furniture don't fit in that room that this urn um which was worth apparently twenty six hundred dollars oh my god does he have to pay it i'm sure his dad's got it yes for just being honest I think he got away with something with $2,600 because in the world of urns,

you don't, I don't know the world of urns.

Do you two know the world of urns?

Is it the same as the Vase Voss world or is it a different one?

Well, when I am, when my day in court comes and I am proven wrong by someone out there on the vast space of the earth.

The Voss.

The Voss first fast.

What is the event that they're at?

Do we know?

Is it a wedding?

It was a New Year's Eve party.

But the point I was trying to make

was that

that urn could have been like $50,000.

Like, you don't know.

You climb in something like that, especially in those weird Alabama cocktail parties.

Those southern eyes wide shut parties where it's all mason jars with lamps and they're all in button-ups under sweaters.

No, no way, man.

You could have gotten some real trouble there.

There might have been some other stuff in there.

Yeah, what?

Did he check?

Do you think?

So apparently other people had done this before him.

Oh, that's even more embarrassing.

And you're the straw that broke the camel's back.

And so he tried.

And in that video, you can sort of hear him plaintively whimper

that his boots got stuck the wrong way.

Like he had to tuck his as a former junior Olympian, maybe you can relate to it.

Yeah,

his boots should have been tucked underneath and instead they went out.

And so he couldn't.

They couldn't possibly have gone out.

They must have been like this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because they couldn't possibly have been like that.

Well, I think they ended up at the bottom, allegedly.

Exactly.

Exactly like that.

I think that's where he dropped.

Yeah, I'm regretting that I wore white socks.

I was like, no one will see my outfit today.

And then then I'm up here being like,

you got your elbows press sleeves on.

Yeah, you look like a real cool lady.

Anyway, he's definitely stuck like this, which would really hurt your ankles.

Yeah, they had to break him out.

I mean, that was the end of the video.

You hear

the sound.

I'm going to show you.

I mean, I'm sure it's on some of those illegal websites.

We can torrent.

You have to pay to see the finish.

This is what he was wearing.

He's holding up a sign, like he's a tiny proof of life.

It says, I am the real Connor Padgett.

Yes, I was the guy stuck in the vase.

Face Lord, mother, mother.

Yes, these are the same pets.

Yeah, dude.

Look at the loafers, no socks.

Still white, though.

The pinky.

They're still off-white.

They're not dirty at all.

Yes, this guy gets stamped for the Kentucky Derby.

He's very pink.

Oh, God, they just left the top on him.

That's very funny.

They should have just made him go around the rest of the night like that.

Shame?

Like, yeah, we'll get you out to the point you're not in danger, but you still need to be ashamed.

Yeah.

So we're going to leave your arms trapped.

What in the nick, Sabin?

Why can't I get out of this?

Hell.

Oh, hell.

I'm a damsel in distress.

You would never want that video.

You would never want that video of you realizing you can't get out of something.

No, absolutely.

Because that moment.

But much like the Jeopardy, it was fun to watch him go through all those emotions with nothing in between us and how he was feeling.

I knew exactly how that guy was feeling every second of that video.

The feeling of...

Of like, well, no, hold on, guys.

You're still laughing.

Can somebody?

The feeling I had when you both looked at me when I said face involves were were different when you're like i'm stuck there there is very little way out of this i'm stuck i think i'm stuck stuck

break it somebody break it

stuck dude have you ever been stuck

like inside of ooh because like she's got the dog crate right

i'm trying to think of where i've been stuck before i know dan lebetard has a recurring nightmare where he is stuck inside of like a slide or a tube oh that's scary upside down oh my god that's terrible

there's like those videos of i mean this is a genre of internet video now, where it's like

a genre.

I was gonna say, it's also a genre of what's crazy is people go like, that guy's stuck.

I want to him.

I think, I thought it was girl.

I thought it was like that lady's cleaning under the table.

It's always like a lady like in a toy.

There's no way that wouldn't jostle her free.

Like at this point, she's not stuck anymore.

She's pretty good.

How weak are you?

That she's still stuck.

Throw some hips into it.

My God, man.

Connor, throw some hips into it.

Yeah, dude.

Come on.

He goes, I tried.

And let me tell you the truth.

My feet are we were stuck like alabama at the 25 yard line have you ever been stuck have i ever done stuck porn no have you ever been stuck uh i'm trying to think what

listen yes it's just about us finding it finding it yeah yeah fair enough i've absolutely been stuck before i'm trying to think where i feel like there's been times i've put a shoe on and then tried to take it off and been like oh my god this is going to be on forever or like a ring you put a ring on and you're like oh i can get it on and then all of a sudden you're like oh i can't i did stick a finger and this is not.

You got to finish the sentence.

Yeah.

It's pornographic in the way that

we wouldn't have thought it if you just finished.

Stuck if it's a human, it's going to go pornographic.

If your next answer is in any way a human being.

In a corona bottle.

Oh,

I can see that.

I think I've had a similar thing like that when you, like when you're learning to put the lime in, but then you're like, oh, my middle of my finger is fatter than the other.

Right.

Yeah.

And you're stuck.

I'll break it that thing.

I remember breaking it.

Moment of like immediate sweat.

You know, when your body just goes like, and it's like cold sweat and you're like, oh, no.

That's what I mean with the embarrassment of what Connor went through.

Like you have that moment.

It's now an internet thing with that moment where you go like,

do you think he's got beef with the guy who originally tweeted it out?

Or do you think like down the road?

That guy who tweeted out the original journalist on this story was the bartender hired at this point.

Perfect.

That makes it so much better.

I love that.

I love that.

I love it.

Someone that didn't want to be there And saw someone.

Had been not tipped by that guy all night long, probably.

He's like, why would I give it to you?

You're just my drink jockey.

Excuse me.

I'm going to take a dip in this urn.

I sell high-end apartment com.

What are you?

A bartender?

Ballooser?

And then you're

got a guy stuck in a vase.

Got it.

Got it.

I got a vase guy.

That's who reported it.

He's just wearing one of those hats that has press in it.

You're just like damn it.

I forgot to take this off.

Son of a gave it away.

The photos that we don't have are of Connor.

Apparently, he was just without pants for the rest of the night.

What?

Why?

Then how did he have them on in the interview?

I think

he was Donald Ducking inside the urn.

You think he was naked with just the loafers on?

So this is a follow-up dispatch from the journalist bartender.

Yeah.

He wanted a double maker's on the rocks after

escaping from the urn.

And I said, can you reach your wallet?

Yeah.

I gave it to him.

And now he's drinking alone and having a cigarette, still pantsless in the corner of the yard.

Pantsless.

I mean, if you're going to be pantsless, a double makers and a cigarette is a way to work through it.

You're going through something.

It's a lot of these exhales.

I never thought I was going to get it out.

There was a moment where I thought I was going to have to start identifying as an urn

or a vase vase.

I love those jokes.

I love when comedians take pronouns and throw it back in little faces.

He's the kind of guy that still gets amped for a pronouns joke.

So, what did we find out today, guys?

What did we learn?

That we've all been Connor and we've all been the bartender.

That's so true.

Right.

That Visa and Vass are the same thing, the exact same thing.

I'll die on this hill on this doulet hill

that's good i'll die

what is a doulet

um yeah man that was that's a wild story that's something that you

back 20 years ago would tell a friend about well that's that's what i learned today is that There are always videos

somewhere, as long as there are like three people at a party.

Yeah.

As long as anyone has the, has the foresight to go pull out your phone.

I went to a UFC event over 15 years ago with my good friend Louis J.

Gomez, and we went and we were at, it was Chal Sonin versus John Jones in New Jersey.

And we were there.

It was a fun fight.

I'd never been to a UFC event.

We were up.

My friend Shanda, who worked there, got us tickets, but we were up.

And I was like, man, the energy here is.

violent.

Like, oh, we're at a fight.

But I've been to boxing matches.

It was different.

It was like.

Because I say I boxing matches to me, it's the, it's the electricity of knowing that someone's about to be humiliated.

Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But there's also the combative energy of like, oh, it's like kind of similar to football where you go, like, we're about to witness organized violence in a way that's satisfying for everybody.

But at the, at that specific UFC event, I felt like, oh, everybody here wants to be

in the ring, in the octagon.

And so we were watching this like eight mile looking white dude, right?

This is like 2009 or 10

eight mile looking white dude starts getting into it with some very jersey italians and

lewis who loves ufc is in a lot of confrontations had the foresight to go pull out your phone

there's about to be a fight and i was like no there isn't and we sat there he was a crowd fight minority report he knew it he felt it he was like oh it's about to happen and we just sat there and within five minutes, it was a full-on brawl.

It was a full-on brawl on four of us.

And I was like, it had me,

I earned, I got respect for those that film fights for world star because I'm like, to know that it's coming and to get your phone up.

And the angle.

You got to get the right angle.

And the right angle.

And Lewis just knew it.

And that's what I was saying is like having that foresight is crazy to know when that's going to happen.

Yes.

And so that

if someone has that and you do something stupid, you're f ⁇ ed.

I also relish these videos videos now because I feel like we're entering into an age where there's a lot of staged things like this

that go viral and you feel like,

does nobody else notice that this is staged?

Or people are getting so caught up in the conversation.

The airplane.

Yeah.

Yeah, where you can tell because there's like a lot of people who are in the street.

And there's a school one, too, where somebody's getting kicked out of a school and it's the same classroom and you're like, this isn't a written, nobody's going to be able to do it.

It was like Save by the Bell where they would have the same room for different classes.

What do you mean your math class is where the shop is?

It's right across the hall from Belding's office.

And so you're getting so many of those now that when you get one of these, you're like, oh, I cherish this

because this is clearly real.

And it's not just about the conversation.

Because a lot of times people just get so into the like, I would never do that.

Or that's the woke left.

That's the future.

They all just start fighting and nobody goes, the video's fake.

Did anybody notice that the video is fake?

This is just like, no, a true natural thing that really did happen.

And we can all just go, you ever been stuck in something?

And now people will even go like, you'll say like, that video is fake.

And they're like, I don't care.

It brings up the point.

Yeah, it's a good conversation to be having.

Just disregarding that that was because the plane stuff, you're right.

School, it's always the same.

In the plane, there's like lights that are on.

I've never seen, what is this, a 16-year-old's room trying to get p this is a, that's not a Delta flight.

It's like, it's got different color lights on.

Like he's the cool kid in high school.

Well, now that's just everybody.

I know, but remember in high school when you're doing that, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm going to shout out my friend Adam.

You'd go to his house and you'd be like, did he ever get it?

Dark purple lights.

He was the one that got women out of our friends.

Is this why?

I just have a very bright light and 49ers posters on my wall.

Is this why I'm so high and dry?

Katie and Dan.

Pablo and Dan.

Katie and Pablo.

Vase, Vase.

My vase and my vase.

I cannot wait for

the championship.

January 23rd.

Happy birthday, Kevin.

Happy birthday, Myrtle.

Wow.

Happy birthday to everybody.

To my brother and Myrtle.

And everybody in Katie's life.

And then Katie shall ascend to the top.

Tune in.

It's nice.

Thanks for letting me talk about it.

Stephen Weber, go fuck yourself.

But I think now that it's over.

He was nice afterwards.

He messaged me last night, good go-get him kid or something like that.

And I wanted to be like, you know how this ends.

You know exactly how this ends.

Yeah, you know who wins.

What do you want to say?

You know the M that gets got.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know that you are M.

But we've all, we've forgiven.

You know.

Yeah, every, it's all, it's, look, I leave it on the field.

Oh, yeah.

I leave it all on the field.

This is the post-game press conference now.

I leave it all on the field.

It was, we talked good trash.

He played a great game.

I, I, I, uh, was angry at his thumb, but I respect it.

But now that we're off the field, that's a, that's my competitor.

That's, we are, we are one and the same.

Sure.

One of us is a little younger, but other than that, we're basically the same.

So I respect him.

Normal way to grab a thumb.

Yeah, everybody does that.

Everybody does that.

When you win a thumb war, when you win a thumb war, you go like this.

You should have gone.

This is the winning thumb.

You should have gone.

Lights out, funny boy.

Break it.

Oh.

Oh.

That's all.

There you go.

Shout out, Lowell.

Lowell.

Lowell.

And one more shout out to the people who produced Pablo Pablo Torre Finds Out.

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