Share & Tell & Age with Domonique Foxworth and David Samson

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Speaker 20 Can I get an amen

Speaker 19 right after this ad?

Speaker 19 I am very excited to do this.

Speaker 19 Please allow a moment of sincerity. We have not done this enough, Dominique,

Speaker 19 David, at a table together. I refuse to allow a moment of sincerity.
Instead, I would like to continue mocking you for chasing around

Speaker 19 Jordan Hudson and somehow claiming that you deserve a Peabody.

Speaker 20 I didn't tell you this. I was sitting with Pablo right as

Speaker 20 a People magazine article came out with his mug on it, on the thumbnail of it. And what I saw, and I said this to you at the time, so we're here amongst almost sort of friends.
And you could tell this

Speaker 20 warm aura of invincibility flow over him like some sort of mucus

Speaker 20 when he was on people.com. And the irony is he walks around the studio talking about Murrow and talking about serious journalism.
Peabody.

Speaker 19 Peabody.

Speaker 19 Right?

Speaker 20 So I'm wondering whether, Pablo, and I meant this, this, I didn't ask you before, are you going to put that as part of now your elevator speech about PTFO?

Speaker 20 Because you mention, obviously, all the awards.

Speaker 19 You're asking, are we folding it into our awards budget?

Speaker 20 Exactly.

Speaker 19 Somehow gotten smaller since we won the awards. I don't mean very curious things.

Speaker 19 And like when you were advertising the show, are you going to say, like, I won this, I won that? And I was on people. I was on, yeah.
I have a question for you, though. Is your, do you believe,

Speaker 19 are there? No, this is, this is a kind question. Do you believe that your ego is any

Speaker 19 bigger and your desire for these type of, this type of recognition is any bigger than anyone else's? Or you think you're right in the middle, but you're more honest about it? Right.

Speaker 19 Let's rank our egos. Can we do that? Can we power rank?

Speaker 20 It's going to be a tie for first in this room. There is no shortage of ego in this room.
Nope.

Speaker 19 It just manifests itself in different ways yeah for instance uh you walked into the office today and you had a paper bag full of some stuff and you had your uh sneakers on your multicolor sneakers on and you had what else did you what else do you have well it was a sandwich and some chips and a ginger ale because we did all this for dominique

Speaker 20 and and so i drove two and a half for this show and now I'm driving back two and a half just to do this because this was your only window.

Speaker 20 This is what I was told.

Speaker 19 You can't tell this live this better be Pablo.

Speaker 19 Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm sorry.
It was completely true. Credibility was paramount to me

Speaker 19 and my episodes. Completely true.
Please fact check yourself, Dominique. It's completely true.
We made, we, we, you,

Speaker 19 we together said, David, we want to do this in person. There's going to be a moment of sincerity, even.

Speaker 19 And it's just going to require you to be here in person. And David drove two and a half.

Speaker 20 Well, I asked for all sorts of other windows of opportunities to do it. And Dominique was a no on every one of them.

Speaker 19 Dominique came from DC.

Speaker 20 It's okay. If you guys manipulated me, it's fine.
I got in the car.

Speaker 19 Guys, no one's been manipulated. It's just all honesty and truth between us.
We're ruining the moment of sincerity.

Speaker 20 It's passed for me.

Speaker 19 It's gone. I mean this.
There is no sincerity. It's gone.

Speaker 20 I've been thinking a lot about you. I haven't seen you in a while.
It's good to see you. You too.

Speaker 19 When are friends, When are male friends sincere? How often does that happen?

Speaker 19 Like, I don't, I'm not.

Speaker 19 We've gotten better with it as an adult, but most of the time, I just, I just roast my friends, and they know that means that I love them. Right, right, right.

Speaker 19 Should we each say one sincere, nice thing about each other?

Speaker 20 No, I don't think that's interesting.

Speaker 19 Okay, great. Oh, God.

Speaker 20 Who? I wasn't ready. It's one, two, three, Brett, about raising.

Speaker 19 We just don't guilt us into

Speaker 19 you for it really is, Brett.

Speaker 20 We're announcing today our new charitable endeavor because after all these years, they still haven't cured Parkinson's.

Speaker 20 And it's unbelievable that they haven't. So we have to keep doing these athletic events.

Speaker 19 Do you see what happens when we get us in a room together?

Speaker 19 What was the

Speaker 19 highest level of science you made it to?

Speaker 20 10th grade.

Speaker 19 That's true.

Speaker 20 I don't know why you're laughing. Do you have a cure for Parkinson's?

Speaker 19 I don't, but I recognize that it's probably probably hard. And I'm not out here like, man, these motherfuckers hurry up.
I've been waiting all day, like you ordered a sandwich from a deli.

Speaker 20 Michael J. Fox, when he started his foundation, said that he expects to be out of business within a decade.
So didn't quite happen that way. And

Speaker 19 you know what? You know what? If I may have yet a third moment of sincerity, because now we had that one, and that's like obviously a sincere. The third moment of sincerity.

Speaker 19 So you think that he's ordering a cure for Parkinson's like it's a goddamn chopped cheese.

Speaker 19 I've been waiting for 10 years.

Speaker 20 I am not waiting anymore.

Speaker 19 At it.

Speaker 20 Anyway, it's been quite telling since we were all last together in Miami that Pablo has just shot himself out of a cannon.

Speaker 20 And it's all due to the ring camera.

Speaker 19 And it's not just that. I did three episodes a week.

Speaker 20 I would like to ask, though, on the shirt issue, because this was important to me. And we had an

Speaker 19 creative issue. I agree.
I think I know where you're going, and I agree with you.

Speaker 20 You agree that the shirt should have been off.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 20 A hundred percent. Now, if you had

Speaker 20 Dominic Eek's body, would you have had shirt off? So I had because he also also is very soft.

Speaker 19 Okay, a little squishy. Listen, I have been doing Parkinson's races in which I complain about Parkinson scientists, but I am somebody who, you know, I still have my fighting weight.

Speaker 19 It's just redistributed. It is disturbing when I realize that fighting weight is light, heavyweight.

Speaker 19 I was like,

Speaker 19 are boxers, have boxers always been this small? Yes, yes, it's crazy. It is crazy.
What a heavyweight boxer weighs. See, I answer your question.
If I had Dominique's

Speaker 19 breasts, yeah i would have i would have flashed those off he claimed it was a journalism decision yeah i don't want to be the look i i need i think it was a chance i need to preserve some element of credibility uh and i think that was again as we say on dominique's show we have to thread the coward's needle and i believe that my threading of the coward's needle was i'm gonna do this but i just can't be so much of the story actually by how can you okay

Speaker 20 that is so ridiculous i regret the moments of sincerity. Can you pull up a photo of Lenny Kravitz at 61? It just got released.
He looks amazing. Now, Lenny Kravitz looks unbelievable.

Speaker 19 Okay, so we should talk about it. PDs? What are we doing?

Speaker 20 It's not normal. He has a full six-pack.

Speaker 19 Nice.

Speaker 20 At 61. Good for him.

Speaker 19 Oh, wow.

Speaker 20 Are you looking at the same thing that I recently saw last week or something?

Speaker 19 Men's health.

Speaker 19 Lenny's ripped.

Speaker 20 Now, is that natural?

Speaker 19 Probably not. You can't.

Speaker 19 I mean, I feel like it's a lot of that in Hollywood. They don't, there's no P-Man in Hollywood who's covered around testing you're like.
There's no P-Man at Avengers Headquarters. Yeah.

Speaker 20 Actors say they did. Will Smith talked about it.

Speaker 19 They go up and down

Speaker 19 for movies. I wanted to do an episode about this, actually, for a long time.
Like, why are all these actors ripped now?

Speaker 19 So if you watch, like, certainly you watched White Lotus, they're just like, everybody's jacked. I'm like, your character does not require you to be obsessively working out.

Speaker 19 You're not a former NFL player trying to reclaim former glory. Why are you exercising?

Speaker 20 The irony, of course, is that you can add abs in post. I mean, if there's a budget for post-production, which some shows have and some don't, but you can add stuff.

Speaker 20 And so you don't actually need to look that way in real life. So I don't know why there's all of a sudden.

Speaker 19 I would imagine that they aren't adding stuff for people whose character doesn't need it, right? Like, so to Pablo's point, the white Lotus guys, they probably just...

Speaker 20 Well, one is Schwarzenegger. I assume that he's just a fan of the.

Speaker 19 Just the season before, there was the dude who was like the founder of a tech company, and he was like, you know, this part Asian dude, and he was like, clearly not required to be jacked.

Speaker 19 And that guy was, again, a guy whose shirt I would take off if I was him.

Speaker 20 I'm embarrassed of my body. Why?

Speaker 20 Because it's not a good body. I don't have a good body.

Speaker 19 I mean, it's fortunately you're, I mean,

Speaker 19 nobody cares.

Speaker 20 Well, I do, but I, again, I do.

Speaker 19 Well, I think I would say that on the power rankings of people who are

Speaker 19 older than they look,

Speaker 19 Lake Rabbits,

Speaker 19 ESPN announcer Mark Jones. Oh, ageless.
Ageless. Mark Jones was at LastCheck in his 60s.
Also has more pop culture references than me.

Speaker 19 He's 63.

Speaker 19 He's much closer.

Speaker 19 Yeah, he's much closer to the meme game than your boy. And David Sampson's on that list.

Speaker 20 I'm doing well from the neck up.

Speaker 20 I have slight concerns about

Speaker 19 it is interesting is like the changing

Speaker 19 to this point. It feels like the

Speaker 19 ideas around like plastic surgery, which is, it's only reasonable that over time as it has been around, because it feels like when we were young, it felt relatively new.

Speaker 19 Like the idea of getting enhancements and whatever, it was like, it was a big deal if someone had breast implants. It was like, oh my gosh, look at this breast implants.

Speaker 19 And like, it's been around long enough now that I feel like we're getting to a point where

Speaker 19 the type of person that is going to get things like the idea that men get height surgeries and that's like an extreme version of it.

Speaker 19 But like, I know people who've gotten their hair transplant and it's like go to Turkey? Yeah. No, I mean, you only go to Turkey.
Turkey is the place.

Speaker 19 You only go to Turkey to get it cheap, though, right?

Speaker 20 You can get it. Oh, it's best quality.
Oh, it's better quality. The best quality is turkey for hair and for veneers, actually.

Speaker 19 Oh, nice. Why is that?

Speaker 20 Listen, I assume they upstated a Holiday and Express, but whatever the reason is is that people save their money to go to Turkey to get it, and then they come back with plugs.

Speaker 20 I don't get the whole thing.

Speaker 19 Why not? I mean, if you, I don't understand how you don't get it. You've never contemplated getting your legs broken and then extended and then healed over so that you could be three inches tall.

Speaker 20 So I was short, and I will tell you exactly what I did.

Speaker 19 I'm doing that as a past tense.

Speaker 20 I am short. Thank you.
Appreciate that. Dominique, thank you for your Phlemy-filled laugh of disdain.

Speaker 19 It's not disdain.

Speaker 20 It's more contempt.

Speaker 19 It's a good joke.

Speaker 20 I'm being a good teammate.

Speaker 19 I hung from

Speaker 19 the bar. Michael Jordan did that.

Speaker 20 And I would spend more time than I wish to acknowledge. So there's a bar in my doorway in the apartment where I grew up.
I grew up in a room, in a bedroom, and it's like

Speaker 20 an expandable stick that is supposed to be used for pull-ups and push-ups. But I didn't do it for that.
I did it. I put it high so there was no weight, just so my fingers would fit right above it.

Speaker 20 And that's it. And I would hang.
And I mean, like, for hours. Oh, my God.
Weirdly.

Speaker 19 And because the adverb was unnecessary.

Speaker 20 I had been told that it actually works.

Speaker 19 I remember come fly with me. I assume that you guys are familiar with this tape by Michael Jordan where nobody in his family is close to 6'6.
And he said that he saw an episode of the Brady Bunch.

Speaker 20 As you can tell, I watched Come Fly With Me far too many times.

Speaker 19 An episode of the Brady Bunch where someone did this and he said that he did it.

Speaker 19 He doesn't suggest that that's the reason why he's tall, but he said that when he was young, he wanted to be tall and he tried it.

Speaker 19 So when you hang from the bar, the idea is that the gravity extends your spine.

Speaker 20 That's the whole thing.

Speaker 20 It's nothing. So what it did is I would get my arms would be sore.
Right.

Speaker 20 So, but I would do it because what I thought, because I had been told by coaches, like in middle school and in elementary school, that after the sore is where the improvement comes.

Speaker 20 So I always felt like I had to get to the arms hurting and then I had to hang on even longer because that's when the growth would happen.

Speaker 20 I also slept always on my stomach with my toes over the bottom of the bed.

Speaker 20 And so I wasn't near the top of the mattress, but I would go to the bottom of the mattress because I had read as a kid, so it may have been written by Dr.

Speaker 20 Seuss, that if you sleep on your front with your legs extended, toes over the bed, that while you're sleeping, your legs grow too.

Speaker 19 Man,

Speaker 19 we could have made so much money off of a young David Samson dunk.

Speaker 20 These aren't costly fixes, but we could have sold you some of those things.

Speaker 19 I think that's a good thing that you could have. Like those dunk shoes, remember those dunk shoes? Oh, yeah, I remember those.

Speaker 19 My parents wouldn't buy me the dunk shoes, but I did buy a parachute to get faster when I was younger. Of course, you did.
That was great.

Speaker 20 Did you run with it behind you? Yeah, of course.

Speaker 19 That's funny. Was it, hold on, was it a parachute for the purpose of NFL prospect training, or was it a generic parachute that you were like, I think this is going to do the job?

Speaker 19 Well, I think I saw somebody using a parachute on TV, and so I was like, Yeah, I think this is going to do the job. And I mean,

Speaker 19 the funny thing is, I had this conversation, I did another podcast recently, and I was talking about how it wasn't until I was like in my mid-20s that I realized that

Speaker 19 I believed that hard work was like much more

Speaker 19 important to my success than

Speaker 19 like the genetic makeup. And I was like, I would look around at other people like, you're just not working hard enough.
It's like, eh.

Speaker 19 Get your nurture up, son. Yeah.

Speaker 19 But

Speaker 19 I mean, I think that there are incremental gains, obviously, but fundamentally, I was like born.

Speaker 19 Now you're team nature?

Speaker 19 Sounds like it. I mean, there is some nurture aspect, but what I can't, what you can't do is work your way into being an athlete.
Like you can make yourself a better athlete.

Speaker 19 Oh, David, David's, David's frowning thoughtfully.

Speaker 20 So I believe that the increment, you have to have natural ability, but I think the differentiating factor is the hard work you put in, which I, which would count for purposes of this conversation is nurture.

Speaker 19 Right. No, I, I, I don't disagree with you, I'm, but I'm saying that if you are born

Speaker 19 from a couple of non-athlete parents, no matter how hard you work.

Speaker 19 What, what if

Speaker 19 I, what if I hung on a bar for a really long time?

Speaker 19 I find hilarious that David kind of turned his nose up at people getting hair transplants when clearly if you there's a big difference between plastic surgery, transplants, and hanging from a bar.

Speaker 20 That's au naturale. I didn't take test stop, by the way.
I didn't take any of the stuff.

Speaker 19 The growth hormone, the Leal Messi got some HGH and kids do it all the time. Grew, I guess, minimally, but enough.
They do all the time. That's a new thing.

Speaker 20 Yes, it is a huge thing.

Speaker 19 Even without like any sort of ailment that were required, they're just getting on HDH.

Speaker 20 The fight that we had with our son

Speaker 20 because we had, I'm short still, and my wife at the time was short. Well, not average for him, but he was worried because his older sisters were short.

Speaker 20 So he was panicked and he wanted to go on the juice.

Speaker 20 And he had friends on the juice who had other small Jewish parents.

Speaker 19 With what what intent? Just like general looking around. No, watch that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 It wasn't to be an athlete. It was

Speaker 19 to grow.

Speaker 20 And you go to doctors who they chart you and they say, hey, you're going to end up being around 5'5 around your dad's height. And he wanted to be 5'10.

Speaker 20 And so he wanted to go on the juice. We said no.
And by the way, the YouTube audience dominated

Speaker 20 similar parents said yes, which made us look even worse.

Speaker 19 But he appreciates you now. Hard to tell.
Yeah. Did you speak to him in the language? We got to get some of those kids to get sick, man.
We need those kids to start passing out.

Speaker 19 Oh, yeah. Get some therapeutic use exemptions.
We got to get them kids to start passing out so you can say, see?

Speaker 19 See?

Speaker 20 I'm not wishing his best friends ill.

Speaker 19 He's going to lose consciousness for a second.

Speaker 20 So we watched it on sleepovers. These kids would come over.
to the house for sleepovers with stuff that had to be refrigerated and they had to shoot themselves during sleepovers.

Speaker 20 This is the real deal.

Speaker 19 And they were still terrible at basketball.

Speaker 20 Oh, this was not. Yes.
This was not done to be good at basketball.

Speaker 19 I know, but I'm just saying. You couldn't get some residual hooping skills or something, get a little bit of.

Speaker 20 Their parents were Jewish bankers.

Speaker 19 So that's why we could.

Speaker 20 I thought you just said that you can't.

Speaker 20 I thought we just went over the.

Speaker 19 No, no, no, no. My point is like in the higher levels, like you're not.

Speaker 19 going to work your way from being an average athlete to being a pro-level athlete, but you're a high school kid shooting some testosterone in your butt.

Speaker 19 Like, I feel like you should be able to whoop some high school ass.

Speaker 20 It's HGH, actually.

Speaker 19 Oh, HGH.

Speaker 19 Which is safer?

Speaker 19 Allegedly?

Speaker 20 I would view all of it. We were a no-to-all.

Speaker 19 Did you, when you told me? Parenting, good job. When you parented, did you speak?

Speaker 19 Because you come from the world of baseball as former president of the Marlins, a team that I presume, by the way, at some point in the course of your oversight, encountered cases where it was like, I think this guy's doing something.

Speaker 20 we knew our guys were doing it. Yeah.
No, I came from the land of being short. And I said to my son, I'm short and I'm great.
Like it's, you're going to be fine.

Speaker 20 You have to own it and learn it and learn to deal with things. Stand on your tippy toes during photos.
There's just things you can do to try to maximize your 65 inches.

Speaker 20 But he wanted, he didn't want that. The irony, of course, is he ended up being 5'8 or 5'9.

Speaker 19 I went half of him when he was here.

Speaker 20 So

Speaker 20 he's doing doing fine. Yeah, I don't know if you've met him.
It's Caleb, he's great.

Speaker 20 But it's just a funny thing what parents do. When I was growing up and I was not on the growth chart, when I'd go to the doctor, it was very stressful with Dr.

Speaker 20 Malashak, where they would chart where you are before each school year. And I was always, you know, 10 percentile.

Speaker 20 And you're hoping for the growth spurt because the doctor says you're going to have a growth spurt. It's going to be because my father wasn't short and it never came.

Speaker 20 And so those were always such anxiety-producing appointments.

Speaker 19 I'm just getting a sense of David's origin story when it comes to his deep distrust of doctors and scientists.

Speaker 20 It's going to happen.

Speaker 19 Screw it. You're going to get a cure.
It's happening.

Speaker 20 It really is such a scam, isn't it?

Speaker 19 All these diseases that they're going to be. Okay,

Speaker 19 I did.

Speaker 19 I mean, maybe it is. I don't know, but I assume it's not.

Speaker 19 This is not the kind of live to tape episode I wanted to have where you are questioning the profession of my parents, incidentally, who did do something to me as a kid where they put a lock on the power cord of the television.

Speaker 20 So you couldn't watch TV.

Speaker 19 So I couldn't watch TV. Nice.
I was born in the darkness, raised in it, molded by it.

Speaker 20 My parents undid the cable.

Speaker 20 At apartments, cable comes in through one outlet.

Speaker 20 And so when they'd be out, all the TVs wouldn't work and there were no computers, no anything.

Speaker 20 And so I would spend, just to screw them, I would spend the entire time searching the apartment looking for any way to watch TV.

Speaker 20 And I found in one of their closets behind the French francs and Swiss francs, which I didn't steal because I was far more interested in a little hurricane-ready battery

Speaker 20 four-inch black and white TV. And so I would take that out of the closet and I'd watch it while they were out just to screw them because they wouldn't let me watch TV.

Speaker 19 What were you watching back at that?

Speaker 20 Well, there were three channels. I mean, anything that didn't matter to me.
I just watched it and howdy duty. It was victory.

Speaker 19 There's so many.

Speaker 19 Almost every sentence you utter just has so many avenues.

Speaker 19 I like the European currency person. Yeah, it's like funny.
He He said, I didn't steal it.

Speaker 19 What are you going to do with it, David?

Speaker 20 Go to the bank and exchange it.

Speaker 19 What? What? So, I guess I'll

Speaker 19 the adventures of Lil David Sampson, like it's Muppet Babies, by the way, just going to the bank with some Swiss francs.

Speaker 20 French francs before the Euro is French francs. I say, Excuse me, can I exchange?

Speaker 19 His voice is exactly the same. Lil David Sampson is exactly the same voice.

Speaker 20 I don't know what you did as children, but he's marginally smaller.

Speaker 19 I watch TV. I wasn't abused like you guys.

Speaker 19 Watch TV got girls, man.

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Speaker 19 I think about that a lot when I'm like raising my kids about like what am I overreacting to and is it appropriate to overreact to it? Because like

Speaker 19 the not watching TV thing, I don't imagine that either of you would unplug the TVs when your kids were home. We monitor screen time, but we are not trying to put locks on it.

Speaker 19 And so I think that's probably like AI probably falls in that category now where it's like, I'm vigilant about my kids at school. I mean, not using it, right? So you're not.
Not using AI?

Speaker 19 They really don't have much interest in playing with it. It's like just interest in using it to help them with their schoolwork.
And it's like, you can't do that, but like

Speaker 19 obvious, or it seems obvious to me that by the time they are in the workforce, it's going to be something that it'll be better to be good at than not, which is like,

Speaker 20 why don't you allow them to do that?

Speaker 19 Right. I know.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 19 Because

Speaker 19 I believe that there are skills that you need to develop, like writing and like reading and summarizing things yourself. Like those things are skills that I think you need to develop.

Speaker 19 Maybe they won't need to develop them. It's like how

Speaker 19 I'm not sure how important typing is going to be going forward. It's not even taught anymore.

Speaker 20 Right.

Speaker 19 Yeah. Cursive.
This is not taught anymore. Penmanship, let alone typing.
Right. Remember, I mean, God, right?

Speaker 19 Kids today will never know the pain of trying to write a cursive Z

Speaker 20 People don't recognize what that is. I don't know if you showed that.

Speaker 19 You can't predict it.

Speaker 19 And I think that like you guys would both, it seems like you attribute some of your academic success success to the fact that your parents forced you to avoid yeah tv right yeah yeah by the way uh the the typing thing is interesting because one of my superpowers is fast typing and that is now increasingly obsolete because

Speaker 19 so you became an intellect in part because you weren't allowed to watch tv and david learned learned to scheme and scam they were like we're gonna take the course he was like i'm gonna look around and try to sneak and steal some stuff and so you was always doing the work around

Speaker 19 David was burgling his own home.

Speaker 20 It's you happen to be 100% accurate. And I'm not the only kid who goes through his parents' stuff looking for things.

Speaker 19 Oh, yeah. It's Christmas time.
Every year, Christmas time.

Speaker 20 But I was not interested in some of the things like little maquettes, didn't I?

Speaker 20 Little sculptures like a little Henry Moore maquette, like a little sculpture this big that you could just, whatever. So

Speaker 19 raised by international spies, literally, is what I'm getting. So for me, what I was interested in the maquettes was the little TV.
It's a Walter PP7 with a silencer. Does it sound like weapons?

Speaker 19 RCP90 and GoldenEye Weapons now.

Speaker 20 You shouldn't need to find out what a maquette is. It's a pretty well-known word.

Speaker 19 No, it's not. I've never heard maquette.
I've never heard the word maquette.

Speaker 19 Hold on, let me just go. It sounds like a knick-knack to me.

Speaker 20 No, a knick-knack.

Speaker 19 A little bit pattywhack.

Speaker 19 I mean,

Speaker 20 it's a year's worth of salary for the three of us, is what them knickknacks are.

Speaker 19 A maquette is a small, three-dimensional model or preliminary sketch of a larger piece of art such as a sculpture or building wow yeah yeah so it's basically what you're making it up no no no no no we didn't think you're making it up i just never heard of a maquette before what this is though sounds like mcdonald's meal it is it's kind of like yeah like a happy meal version of a rich guy's favorite thing

Speaker 20 They can be, they're very valuable.

Speaker 19 You were hamburged, right?

Speaker 20 They're very interesting pieces of art and pieces of sculpture. They're wonderful to live with.

Speaker 20 But my point was different is that I always knew at a young age what, how to maximize my time to get exactly what I wanted.

Speaker 20 And what I wanted was to not give them the last word and me having to do my homework all night or phone time was a big thing

Speaker 20 where it wasn't, I didn't have a cell phone, obviously. So I'd be on the phone trying to be popular with a girl or a guy.
And then all of a sudden your mom gets on the phone.

Speaker 20 And that because she would set a time. And I, my, she, I don't know how she knew when the six minutes was up, but somehow, somehow I don't know she was counting down

Speaker 19 six minutes per call What were what was she afraid of?

Speaker 19 She was just like we can't have David having friends minute seven like what I never I was never allowed to have sleepovers, but I guess I understand while I may not agree wholeheartedly with the TV idea I understand why they would be like all right You can't watch TV unlimited like that makes sense.

Speaker 19 I don't understand why you can't talk to friends

Speaker 20 homework to do oh okay so it wasn't about if you had finished your homework she would let you talk there's always I never, I never was able to, because then there's a book report or a book to read or an extra thing to do.

Speaker 19 You went to a very fancy school. Do you ever think about the cost? Because like it feels like both you guys see these experiences as being beneficial, but nothing comes without a price.

Speaker 19 Do you think that there was a cost to being raised in that way, like a negative?

Speaker 20 Do you? I mean, I find myself to,

Speaker 20 I have friends now,

Speaker 20 you know, one or two or a half.

Speaker 20 And so, no, I think that the benefit of the disciplined life I had is it made me disciplined.

Speaker 19 I would say that I probably be less enamored of weed as an adult if I was not sort of like told to, you know, be at the other end of the spectrum when it came to just like

Speaker 19 that this is not just true of this conversation about the things that impact us, but just overall, I think that we often want to make a domino style cause and effect to the things that happen in our lives because we like to tell stories and movies and TV shows and all that stuff.

Speaker 19 It's like we want to be able to tell that story. But oftentimes, I think the results of things that we think are because of one thing are not at all because of that.

Speaker 19 So, like, get back to the point of saying that, like, I thought that my hard work made me an athlete until I realized that, like, yeah, my hard work made me an NFL player, but like, I was always going to be a better athlete than most people.

Speaker 19 I'm guessing that, David, your disposition is probably that of someone who is more prone to discipline because we could have these situations.

Speaker 19 I remember with my wife, with our kids, like I was pretty strict about early on about like what they were eating and how much sugar was around.

Speaker 19 And she was like, well, what's just going to happen is then they're going to get out into the world and then they'll be free to eat a whole bunch of sugar.

Speaker 19 And I was just like, well, actually, I don't think we know how any of this will impact them.

Speaker 19 Like this could lead to someone who's like incredibly disciplined because they had a disciplined upbringing, or we could tell the other story where it's like, oh, I was so disciplined with that.

Speaker 19 Then you get out of the house. What that crack talking about?

Speaker 19 Let me, let me, let me, let me holler a couple of them rocks. Let me.

Speaker 19 I don't know. I just think that we want to be able to explain things.
I like that lifetime movie, though. What that crack talking about.

Speaker 20 I was allowed candy from October 31st to Thanksgiving Day was it during the year because you'd go Thanksgiving, then you'd have to pour the bag out, then it would be gone through by your parents.

Speaker 20 They'd take out everything that was not wrapped, obviously, because it has razor blades in it. So I just told it.
I don't know if anyone else heard that story.

Speaker 19 I heard it one.

Speaker 19 Never actually saw it.

Speaker 19 Never actually had a friend who got that razor blade candy.

Speaker 20 It's a lot of effort to put razor blades in an apple, but I'm fine, whatever it is. And then one a night.

Speaker 20 And so anything over, let's say Thanksgiving is November 24th, you get 25 pieces of candy, the 31st, and then through November 24th, and then the rest gets thrown away. So,

Speaker 19 and now you obviously are, from what I understand, a candy addict. So, why do you you think that that candy discipline resulted in you becoming an addict and the

Speaker 19 no-phone discipline resulted in you becoming a nerd? I'm not a nerd? I mean, I don't know how you would call it. I am not a nerd.
I'm a lot of things.

Speaker 19 Let's live in this definition for a second. What do you...
Or discipline. I'm sorry.
You said disciplined, right? Yeah. Okay.
Wait, you're not.

Speaker 20 Those aren't synonyms.

Speaker 19 No, they aren't synonyms. I was thinking about Pablo.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 20 I don't find him nerdy either.

Speaker 19 Thanks.

Speaker 20 Do you think you're nerdy?

Speaker 19 Well, so that's why I wanted to live in for a second. Okay, relative, baby.

Speaker 20 Okay.

Speaker 19 Compared to

Speaker 19 NFL bound 36? 36, Dominique screen name growing up? Yeah. Classified, self-classified as Josh.

Speaker 20 That's so awesome.

Speaker 20 Give me some. That.
And you made it happen?

Speaker 19 I love that. It was my screen name.
It was my Black Planet page name. We're still looking for that.

Speaker 19 We're still looking for the archive of Dominique's Black planet profile did you wear 36 um my first year so i graduated from high school early and went to maryland early and so the spring i had 36 and then training camp came and i got six but yeah that was my so it was when i yeah i had 36.

Speaker 19 See, I love that.

Speaker 20 That may be the coolest story you've ever told me about yourself.

Speaker 19 Ooh, I got some stories, boy. Turn these mics off, doggie.
We used to go to Vegas. Oh, whoa.

Speaker 19 How many francs were involved?

Speaker 19 Man, you can't, you can't do what I can do with a macinette.

Speaker 19 Not a macetette.

Speaker 19 What's it called? Macquette. Oh,

Speaker 19 it's a macquette to you. It's a macinette to me, boy.

Speaker 19 David, did you have a screen name?

Speaker 20 No.

Speaker 20 How would you, with what screen?

Speaker 19 It was AWL Instant Messenger, America Online. Did you ever have to come up with a code name for yourself?

Speaker 20 I stayed in hotels when I was president of the team under Jay Trotter. Nice.
That was my name.

Speaker 19 Jay Trotter. Why?

Speaker 20 That's the lead character in Let It Ride.

Speaker 20 Jay Trotter, played by Richard Dreyfus.

Speaker 19 I don't think I've ever seen it.

Speaker 20 And so I was...

Speaker 19 Image that I look up from the movie beat in black and white. Jay Trotter?

Speaker 20 No, it's Let It Ride from like 1991. It's a great movie.

Speaker 19 89. How tall is Jay Trotter?

Speaker 20 Richard Dreyfus is not a tall guy in real life. But, you know, the players, I don't know, did you use a pseudonym?

Speaker 19 No.

Speaker 20 At Team Hotels? But you guys are always in for one night.

Speaker 19 Yeah. I mean, we didn't have the same situation as you guys.
It was like the hotel was pretty much no one's trying to poison your food.

Speaker 20 No, I mean, it's not about that, it's about the phone calls.

Speaker 19 I don't think that, so, like, the team would have the hotel. So, I'm not sure that any of our names were on, not the whole hotel all the time, but sometimes.

Speaker 19 But I'm not sure that any of our names were on specific rooms. And there'd be security, so no one was let into the hotel out.

Speaker 19 Because, like, you mentioned, it wasn't like you guys who were on a road trip. We come in, uh, land at like four o'clock the day before, play a football game, and don't return to the hotel.

Speaker 19 So, like, we spend the night, one night there, and fly out. So, it's not the same.

Speaker 20 So, it's a whole McGilla when you check into a hotel with the baseball team because it's a lot of rooms, much like football, but you're there for a much longer period of time and you don't have the whole hotel.

Speaker 20 So, there are people around, but pre-cell phone, the way you'd reach players is through their hotel phone. Literally, like, hey, connect me to room, you know, one two six nine.

Speaker 20 So, you had to have a manifest of where everyone was.

Speaker 20 So, we'd get two manifests one with the names that were with the pseudonyms and then one with the key meaning who yeah what the decoder the decoder so then the traveling secretary or the manager or the gm would know how to reach everybody our hotels were always i would imagine much more boring than baseball or any other sport hotel because we were in and out we had curfews it was um

Speaker 19 ran a very tight ship and i imagine that you guys don't do like i know basketball players i don't know very many baseball players, but like you're there for so long that they live their own lives.

Speaker 19 So I imagine you guys have much better stories than I like. The most fun stories we had is somebody just didn't show up to the game or skip curfew or something like that.

Speaker 19 It wasn't anything that interesting. Never you.
Nah, I didn't start drinking till I was 35. Did you know that about him?

Speaker 20 We're funny. I didn't start drinking until I was 31.

Speaker 19 We're a bunch of nerds. I got bad news, guys.
We're nerds.

Speaker 20 Wait, do you not drink now?

Speaker 19 I drink so much less now. But I socially and happily enjoy it.

Speaker 20 The thing about hotels, I find, with players, is that they get very comfortable because they know they're going to be there three nights, four nights, whatever. So they move into the room.

Speaker 20 And it used to be when I was younger, players used to share a room. And that was a huge collective bargain issue when they wanted their own rooms because it doubled the cost.

Speaker 20 But you had grown-ass men who were sharing.

Speaker 19 Yeah, high school debate tournament style, baby.

Speaker 20 And these are professional athletes. I assume the NFL was like that, too, in the 70s and 80s.
Oh, probably.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I'm sure. The NFL is notoriously cheap.
They probably were like that in the 70s and 80s. It wasn't training camp, my rookie year training camp.
I shared a room

Speaker 19 on the preseason games, but excuse me, after that, we were all by ourselves. I imagine college, we share rooms.

Speaker 20 Even the top schools like Alabama. Roadroommates wasn't a thing.

Speaker 19 I don't know. I can't speak for them, but and it may have changed now.
But when I was in college, we share rooms, which that led to more interesting stories.

Speaker 19 I remember we did an episode with Nate Tice, who was Russell Wilson's road roommate at Wisconsin, which is to say that, yeah, this is a proud tradition that even, you know, maybe things have changed now that it seems to be even more and more money in college sports.

Speaker 19 But yeah, that was, and when you're a college kid, your decision making is a little bit inhibited. Not that when you get to the NFL, all of a sudden it gets better, but like, yeah,

Speaker 19 me and my roommate definitely had friends over sometimes, which was not a smart idea.

Speaker 20 What's the tennis movie that we just watched? And I'm totally blanking.

Speaker 19 Who is it?

Speaker 20 I'm so excited.

Speaker 20 Challengers.

Speaker 19 I haven't seen it. That's good.
That's good.

Speaker 20 There's a fantastic, threesome

Speaker 19 scene. I heard about that.
With the two people. I heard people complain that it was like not.

Speaker 19 They didn't actually pay it off. Yeah, that it wasn't as exciting as they had like sold it to be.
Oh,

Speaker 20 the payoff was her payoff.

Speaker 19 You liked it? I even running way too much. I'd love to watch it.
I feel really uncomfortable. Yeah.
You shouldn't. It's a great scene.
No, no, no.

Speaker 19 I'm uncomfortable with how excited you are because I haven't seen the scene, so I don't know how to react. I don't know if I should be agreeing with you or you didn't like the payoff?

Speaker 19 You're a Zendaya in a visual of this. Yeah.
You're sitting in between two people who are ever closer. I am obviously

Speaker 20 who are trying to be close to you. And you can do spoiler alerts for that movie.

Speaker 19 It's a year old.

Speaker 20 They're trying to do a threesome. Right.
And they all want to be with her. And she wants them to be a bit of a double-time.

Speaker 19 Is it trying to do a threesome? Is that the verb?

Speaker 20 Have them. Trying to have a threesome, be a threesome.

Speaker 20 I say, well, you do do them. And the payoff for her was that they got all dressed up and ready to go.
And then she said goodnight, boys

Speaker 20 and left the room. That's a pretty powerful payoff.

Speaker 19 That is a figurative payoff.

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Speaker 19 Let's rank our worst decisions.

Speaker 19 David, you go first.

Speaker 20 My worst decision was going public with the fact that one of the things we used to tell our players was to pleasure themselves before checking into their road hotel

Speaker 20 because we thought, I thought that it would make them get in trouble less.

Speaker 20 And it's, and so.

Speaker 19 Dominique and I did an episode about post not clarity.

Speaker 20 Yes, you did.

Speaker 19 And this is the same philosophy.

Speaker 20 It was the same philosophy, and it was a, it should have been kept in-house.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I feel like, hey, guys, can you just jack off real quick? It feels like an HR thing. Right.

Speaker 20 So I would have done it differently. I don't disagree with why I did what I did, and I don't disagree with the results.
I think we only had like three or four arrests in 18 years. Not terrible.

Speaker 19 So

Speaker 19 you stay up by the side something.

Speaker 19 Exactly. About 30 divorces, three or four arrests.
Oh, gosh.

Speaker 20 A few restraining orders, you know, just a Tuesday.

Speaker 19 Three or four arrests.

Speaker 19 I think if they hadn't jacked off, it would have been even more.

Speaker 19 I agree.

Speaker 19 Man. So the players were like, okay.

Speaker 19 I mean, I don't think that they were influenced by it. You think that

Speaker 19 when you went public with this, where

Speaker 20 did this go public? So I was giving either a speech,

Speaker 20 I was doing something where the audience just wasn't

Speaker 20 necessarily ready for this conversation.

Speaker 20 And I regret doing that.

Speaker 19 Yeah. Nice.

Speaker 19 I don't value.

Speaker 19 I mean, that's mild as far as worst decisions are concerned. Well, Marlon

Speaker 19 personally, that's

Speaker 19 a master. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 20 You're asking me if I've made bad personal decisions.

Speaker 19 Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 20 As I sit here divorced? I mean, what do you mean?

Speaker 19 That was a great decision.

Speaker 20 Which, to get divorced?

Speaker 19 And to get married.

Speaker 20 I stand by every decision I've made. They're just not all great, but I wouldn't redo any of them.
I don't like people people who say, if I had to do it again, I'd do it differently.

Speaker 19 Oh, really? Why not?

Speaker 20 Because I don't like that. You should think of that before you do it in the first time.

Speaker 19 I don't like people who say, I have no regrets because

Speaker 19 this is where I was supposed to be. Like when someone asks you that question, that's the whole point is like, I don't know.
What are you?

Speaker 20 I have no regrets.

Speaker 19 What are your regrets? You have zero regrets.

Speaker 20 I have myriad mistakes and zero regrets.

Speaker 19 So you are fine with telling the YMCA audience that you wanted your players.

Speaker 20 It's not ideal, I grant you. You know,

Speaker 20 I don't love the fact that I went into an all-black church trying to get votes for the stadium and I stood up there and I said, can I get an amen?

Speaker 19 I don't love that I did that, but I did. I didn't know that you did that.

Speaker 20 Oh, I gave a whole sermon.

Speaker 19 Your mistake is in now telling us that you did that. You should regret telling us that.
I gave a sermon. What the f ⁇ does that?

Speaker 20 I gave a sermon to a major black church in Miami because I needed their support for public money for the ballpark.

Speaker 19 So hold on.

Speaker 20 I was the only white guy in there.

Speaker 19 Jewish.

Speaker 20 I am Jewish.

Speaker 19 I am white.

Speaker 19 The white is the same.

Speaker 19 Okay, so I want, because we know, Dominique, that David regrets nothing in terms of his process, even though the outcome may not be what he desired.

Speaker 19 What was your, how did you dress? What was your approach?

Speaker 20 So, how I dressed is I went to visit a black teller.

Speaker 19 I said we weren't going going to hit anything. Oh, no.

Speaker 19 Hold on. No.

Speaker 20 I'm telling you what I did. And I had a suit made for me by Andre Dawson's tailor.

Speaker 20 So I looked like Andre Dawson, and it was awesome. If you know the Hawk, he's the most impeccable dresser you'll ever see.

Speaker 19 He was probably at Lebatard's wedding as a pure side note.

Speaker 19 Was he really? Yeah, Andre Dawson.

Speaker 20 He is just a wonderful dresser. He was the coolest guy in the world.

Speaker 19 Andrews.

Speaker 20 I don't think you'll see it on Google, but just very, very good dresser.

Speaker 19 Oh, yeah, we see it.

Speaker 20 We see it.

Speaker 19 How many buttons did your suit have?

Speaker 20 It's the only suit I ever had. It had six buttons.

Speaker 19 Oh, what year was that?

Speaker 20 This was 2008.

Speaker 20 2008.

Speaker 20 And so we needed the votes. So I had a.

Speaker 19 You're a king of comedy.

Speaker 19 What is this? Not colorful.

Speaker 20 I can't even. I had a concigliary who was Cuban, and we had a plan of all the different people we had to get votes from.
So we went to the Cubans, we went to the non-Cuban.

Speaker 19 We went to Guayaquil

Speaker 19 100%.

Speaker 20 I had to go get one personally made, a Gayavada. So I had to wear that to the Cuban.
Say that one more time. I think it's Guayavada.

Speaker 19 I don't really know what it is, but I appreciate you increasing the flexibility of your armpits while you were saying that.

Speaker 20 These guys are funny, but

Speaker 20 I did give the sermon and I did, I felt like I had the room enough.

Speaker 19 What does a sermon?

Speaker 20 It was about all the things that this 65-inch white Jewish guy could do for them by having a ballpark built with their money. This is what I will deliver for you.

Speaker 19 You are a prosperity gospel panderer.

Speaker 20 I was. What's the, this would have been great if I had had it right in my head, the guy on the music man, and it starts with T, which stands for trouble, Music City.
What's the main character

Speaker 19 just played on?

Speaker 20 Oh, my God.

Speaker 19 No idea.

Speaker 20 You really don't know. You don't know either.

Speaker 19 Somehow.

Speaker 19 So

Speaker 19 the thing. Oh, my God.
You know, David Sampson's a method black preacher when he doesn't know

Speaker 19 the name of the music man character. What is that? Harold Hill.
Harold Hill.

Speaker 20 You never heard that name? Anyway,

Speaker 20 so that's, I went in and I am trying to explain to this large audience about what public funding means. And I'm standing in my suit and in my pointed shoes.
You got pointy shoes.

Speaker 20 Long pointy shoes that were like size 10.

Speaker 19 Please tell me that the suit was like

Speaker 19 black or blue or like a normal dark

Speaker 19 tan maybe I think it was tan okay that's straight that's good that's tan Obama I didn't it was you and six button Obama we should have got

Speaker 20 it was something a fascinating so it was going great and I had I I had eyes with my it was going great

Speaker 20 it was so they were giving you amen I

Speaker 20 did that no I just had I had the view that I had their attention I had the view that they were looking at me as though I was right one of them and so I built up to this crescendo and I look over at the bishop.

Speaker 20 His name was Bishop Curry. Bishop Curry was his name in Miami.

Speaker 19 And I look at the bishop.

Speaker 20 Then I look out at the audience. I look back at the Cuban conciglieri and I look at the crowd.
I say, can I get an amen?

Speaker 20 And then I walked out.

Speaker 19 And it was awesome.

Speaker 20 Side note, we got all the black commissioner votes.

Speaker 19 Did they? Oh, so they did say

Speaker 19 amen.

Speaker 20 Oh, we got the amen. We got the votes.
Oh, we got it all.

Speaker 19 Wow. I was going to ask you, have you ever been pandered to?

Speaker 19 Probably. You don't know? Like, I feel like when I'm being pandered to, I recognize it and I dislike it.
When you're pandered to, does it look like this photo of Bishop Michael Curry?

Speaker 19 We're going to put this on the YouTube channel, but

Speaker 19 this is him?

Speaker 20 It's Victor Curry.

Speaker 19 Sorry, Victor Curry.

Speaker 19 Not Bishop Curry. It's Bishop Victor Curry.
Oh.

Speaker 19 Victor Curry is the author of A Charge to Keep I Have, Fulfilling Your Life's Purpose, which feels like a book that all of us might have read in our most vulnerable moments, hanging from a bar for hours at a time.

Speaker 19 You guys,

Speaker 20 I'm happy to be with you guys again. You make me think of things I hadn't thought of in a very, very long time.

Speaker 19 How long have we known David and we only now get the funny thing?

Speaker 19 Whenever we're together,

Speaker 19 I think David thinks that this is an example of me like pandering to him, but it's not. Whenever we're together, David's always the star.

Speaker 19 100%.

Speaker 19 Of the three of us, people would guess, I would assume, that the least interesting and least entertaining of us would be the former club president, not the people who are on TV for a living or played professional sports.

Speaker 19 But always,

Speaker 19 it is always

Speaker 19 David is somehow the star of the show.

Speaker 20 I think we're now coming in tied for second because Pablo is now at a different level. He has left us in the dust.

Speaker 19 You're talking about old Peabody over here? Dominique was trying to.

Speaker 20 I think he didn't even talk to us going forward.

Speaker 19 He was, he was trying to.

Speaker 19 I was also about to see David as Ara Zendeo, and instead,

Speaker 19 I had it in my head. I swung back around.

Speaker 19 We're going to Photoshop that. We're going to have our graphic squad.
No, thank you. Photoshop that.

Speaker 19 No, thank you.

Speaker 19 It's going to be really

Speaker 20 funny, actually.

Speaker 19 Sounds like a waste of graphic squad, Marty.

Speaker 20 Hey, listen. Welcome to Metal Arc.

Speaker 19 At the end of every episode of Pablo Dori finds out even one that is entirely live to the tape, I don't think we're making a single edit to this because I want people to understand what it's like for us to sit at a table together because it is this.

Speaker 19 What did we find out today, gentlemen?

Speaker 19 The snacks were around here is depressing, boy. I found that out.
That shit means

Speaker 19 that you're in the episode we just did. You just are mad that we didn't have the good snacks.

Speaker 19 It takes a lot of energy to be this entertaining.

Speaker 20 I found out that Dominique believes that in order to be a professional athlete, you have to have some sort of nature versus nurture.

Speaker 20 And I am still thinking about the parents of big leaguers who we had whose parents were not athletic at all, and they were big leaguers, or the people like Steffi Graff and Andre Agassi, who have kids who may or may not be professional athletes, Michael Jordan's kids.

Speaker 19 They tried, they didn't make it. My old friend, I think, I mean, you need to go do some DNA tests on these people who somehow became athletes without a shred of athleticism in there.

Speaker 19 They might find out something that they don't want to know. Like, go ahead and look at the NFL draft.
Go ahead and look at the NBA draft. Them last names get more and more familiar.

Speaker 19 I think that there was a time when it was different. No, and now it's crazy.
It's absurd.

Speaker 19 And even if you're not, even if it's not someone else who played, like your mom was a college athlete, like it just, it just doesn't happen anymore where it's just like my dad was a plumber.

Speaker 19 And I think part of it is that women's athletics has grown to the point. I think a lot of times the athletic gene could come from your mother.

Speaker 19 You wouldn't recognize that because there was a time when there was not

Speaker 19 like adequate women's sports. And so you'd be like, hey, this kid came out of nowhere.
He's an athlete. His dad ain't sh ⁇ , but he can ball.

Speaker 19 Like, yeah, his mom probably was a tremendous athlete, but didn't have the opportunity.

Speaker 19 So I'm guessing that these big leaguers that you talk about, maybe, maybe something a little different happening over there.

Speaker 19 The most prolific university when it comes to generating NBA draft picks is, in fact, the University of Former Professional Basketball Players assembled together as one group. It's crazy

Speaker 19 how many Nepo athletes there are.

Speaker 19 We're all kind of Yao Ming being produced by the Chinese government, allegedly.

Speaker 19 What I found out today is that David Sampson has probably rummaged around the drawers in this office and found all sorts of things that are of value to various Europeans.

Speaker 19 He hasn't found that much because I tell you one thing, drawers

Speaker 19 a shambles.

Speaker 19 A couple bags of nuts and an empty beef jerky container.

Speaker 19 What are we doing? It's depressing. It's sad.

Speaker 19 There's a... a maquette of jerky.

Speaker 19 There's a smaller jerky

Speaker 19 that stands in for the full size. jerky.
It's tough times, man. Yeah, it is sometimes, man.

Speaker 19 Jerky. Man, that just reminds me of David Sampson's YMCA story.

Speaker 19 This has been Pablo Torre finds out a Meadowlark media production.

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