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Speaker 3 A week ago, President Trump signed an executive order called Ending Crime and Disorder on America's Streets.

Speaker 3 Now, this order could be read as Trump setting up another showdown between his administration and liberal cities. But actually, some cities are already ahead of him on this.

Speaker 4 I'm Hannah Rosen.

Speaker 3 This is Radio Atlantic.

Speaker 3 Over the next three weeks, we're bringing you a special series about the beginnings of an experiment. A lot of American cities already know they have a real problem.

Speaker 3 A few streets or a neighborhood where the social order seems to have completely broken down. They're crowded with people living on the streets, often with addiction.

Speaker 3 And even before this executive order was signed, some cities were beginning to take these places on, or at least audition some new ways to fix the problem.

Speaker 3 Reporter Ethan Brooks looks at San Francisco, which is an obvious place to look because it's a city known for being exceptional at thinking up solutions to all kinds of complicated problems.

Speaker 3 Why hasn't it been able to crack this one? Ethan finds some answers close to the ground. He follows one guy and gets some insights about why the solution these cities are looking for is so elusive.

Speaker 7 I know some people that have spent hours and hours and hours and hours just holding up a cardboard sign in an intersection.

Speaker 7 It might take them 10 hours to make $10.

Speaker 8 And you won't do that?

Speaker 10 I just, fuck.

Speaker 7 It's just knowing, like, I could do that, or I could spend 15 minutes inside of a store, 10 minutes inside of a store, 5 minutes inside of a store sometimes,

Speaker 7 and then make enough money.

Speaker 8 There are a lot of ways you could describe Evan. But if we're really getting down to it, a title that fits pretty well is Thief.

Speaker 8 Over the last six years or so, Evan has dedicated many of his waking hours to stealing.

Speaker 8 On a typical day, Evan, and I'm just going to use his first name to protect his privacy, Evan takes the train out of town from where he lives, in San Francisco, shoplifts all day, then comes back home.

Speaker 8 Sometimes he calls this his job or going to work. When he sleeps, it's out on the street or in a shelter.

Speaker 8 In Evan's world, what he does is called being an out-of-town booster, as in someone who boosts or steals property from outside of San Francisco, which in his circle affords him a certain amount of status, one rung higher on the ladder than an in-town booster.

Speaker 7 The in-town booster isn't making real money. You're making like 20, 40 bucks like a run.

Speaker 7 But like out-of-town booster is like somebody who's going to be gone all day,

Speaker 7 going to a couple different stores and then coming back, you know, making several hundred bucks.

Speaker 8 Evan steals so that he can sell. He's had success converting Frappuccinos, Nutella, honey into cash.
Tide pods, apparently, are always in high demand.

Speaker 8 Lately, he's been boosting Stanley cups from the target in Emeryville, just north of Oakland.

Speaker 8 He then takes the train to the Civic Center in San Francisco to sell to a middleman who will sell the stolen Stanley cups to a diverter who will repackage them and resell them on eBay.

Speaker 8 Evan is part of an economy that sells millions and millions of dollars of stolen goods every year.

Speaker 8 Recently, this particular target, the one in Emeryville, has been on Evan's mind because he just cannot believe how easy it was to steal from them.

Speaker 7 Literally went like 27 days in a row because I kept telling myself,

Speaker 7 if it doesn't work, I'll quit fentanyl. And it just kept working and it kept working and it kept working every day.
And I was like, what is going on? This is like a groundhog's day or something.

Speaker 8 Another title you could give Evan, apart from thief, is Addict. Fentanyl is the singular driving force behind his shoplifting.

Speaker 8 In the eyes of the middlemen who resell what he steals, fentanyl makes Evan the ideal employee. Highly motivated, with huge tolerance for risk, and nothing to lose.

Speaker 8 In the real world, Evan is just a normal guy, mechanic, and from what I'm told, a good one. But in San Francisco, as one of Evan's oldest friends put it to me, he is the king of the fools.

Speaker 7 It didn't really feel like that until I got to San Francisco.

Speaker 7 Everywhere else was super hard to make it. When I got here,

Speaker 7 it was like so much easier.

Speaker 7 Can you help me put this back? Just a little bit.

Speaker 6 For sure. No problem, dude.

Speaker 8 Evan pauses our interview here, asked me to adjust his hospital bed.

Speaker 7 Red dad's perfect.

Speaker 8 We're sitting in Evan's room in San Francisco General Hospital. Evan is propped up in bed, wearing a paper gown with an IV drip taped to his arm.

Speaker 8 There's a huge pile of candy next to his pillow, sour worms and starbursts and twicks that hospital staff gave him. Addicts often get really intense sugar cravings.

Speaker 8 This happens for a lot of reasons, but in the end, a sugar high is still a kind of high.

Speaker 8 At the moment we're talking, Evan is in a bad way. He's visibly emaciated, with knobby elbows, ribcage on full display, and he's struggling to control his body.

Speaker 8 Depending on what happens next, death, he thinks, is a real possibility.

Speaker 8 I met Evan just a few months ago, about six weeks before this conversation in the hospital, and have followed along with him as he's made this journey from being an out-of-town booster, the king of the fools, to where he is now.

Speaker 7 We were watching the show last night about Vikings and apparently like it was Viking tradition that when men or women would get older and they couldn't hunt, fish, or farm, or

Speaker 7 help get anything, that they would just go jump off a cliff and kill themselves because they were a burden to their family.

Speaker 8 And uh,

Speaker 7 and so I thought about that-that, like, that's like the position I would be in.

Speaker 7 If you know, if it was the time we were in now, they'd be like, You can't even help us do anything because your legs are fucked up, and you can't even eat a whole meal without vomiting. So,

Speaker 7 we're just gonna take you to the

Speaker 7 Valhalla cliffs or whatever, and have you jump.

Speaker 7 Oh man.

Speaker 8 Like Evan says, there are these places around Scandinavia where, supposedly in early Norse society, the elderly and infirm leapt to their deaths when they had no more purpose to serve.

Speaker 8 In the TV show Evan watched, there's a shot of a man leaping off this huge, towering cliff and simply falling out of the frame.

Speaker 8 But the thing about this Viking tradition is that it's just a story. It's a myth.
The cliffs are real enough, but there's no evidence anyone ever jumped off them.

Speaker 8 The Vikings had to figure out a way to care for these people just like the rest of us.

Speaker 8 The weeks I spent following Evan, a period that ended with him in this hospital bed, were critical weeks for him.

Speaker 8 It was also a critical period for San Francisco when the city began to change its approach to people like Evan.

Speaker 8 People who are in need of real care and whose presence threatens threatens the health of the city.

Speaker 8 From The Atlantic, this is No Easy Fix, Episode 1.

Speaker 8 Vanishing Point.

Speaker 8 Back in the first years of the pandemic, A new type of video started showing up on YouTube and other corners of social media.

Speaker 10 This is San Francisco, the city that pays drug addicts to use drugs.

Speaker 8 They had titles like, I investigated the city of real-life zombies, and I investigated the city where every drug is legal.

Speaker 10 Rampant homelessness, deadly drug addiction, and unpunished shoplifting and car break-ins. Businesses are fleeing, and the city is dying.

Speaker 8 What they were showing to audiences of millions and millions of people were these places in American cities where it felt like the social order had broken down completely.

Speaker 8 City blocks and encampments crowded with people, injecting, overdosing, and dying all right out in in the open.

Speaker 10 The center of America's drug epidemic overrun with a drug known as TRANK,

Speaker 8 it wasn't just San Francisco in the spotlight. There was Kensington Avenue in Philadelphia, Skid Row in downtown LA, encampments underneath I-5 in Seattle, storm drains under the Las Vegas Strip.

Speaker 8 There were, and still are, live streams of these places, broadcasting these images 24-7.

Speaker 8 The videos gave these places a new notoriety, and it was San Francisco, specifically the Tenderloin neighborhood, that was maybe the most infamous.

Speaker 8 There was the reality of the thing, and I'll just give one stat here to illustrate this. In this period, nearly twice as many people died of overdose in San Francisco than died of COVID-19.

Speaker 8 Fentanyl killed far more people than the pandemic.

Speaker 8 Then there was this contrast that wasn't quite the same as anywhere else.

Speaker 8 Needles and human waste covering the sidewalk, signs of the most self-destructive, destitute humanity, in the same city at the cutting edge of this new technology that can write and speak like a human.

Speaker 11 From the outside, it's like this really grotesque cesspool. But once you're in there, it's a bizarrely normal social situation.

Speaker 8 Joe Wynne has spent a fair amount of time among people dealing with addiction in the tenderloin.

Speaker 8 Not because he's lived there himself, but because he's Evan's best friend from before Evan got wrapped up in fentanyl. Do you remember the first time you met Evan?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 11 He was a mechanic at this high-end custom 4x4 shop.

Speaker 8 Before living on the streets in San Francisco, Evan worked as a mechanic in North Carolina.

Speaker 8 The shop he worked for is a sort of pimp my ride for wealthy, crunchy digital nomads looking to live the van life for a while.

Speaker 8 Joe is not a digital nomad, but he's wealthy enough and at least a little crunchy. So back then he enlisted Evan and the shop where he worked to outfit his camper van.

Speaker 8 At the time, this was around 2013, Joe was traveling and living out of his van and with it in the shop, didn't have a place to live.

Speaker 11 And Evan was like, you can sleep in my basement.

Speaker 11 And after like half a day there, they're like, oh, you can move into the guest bedroom. It's totally available.
You're not a crazy person.

Speaker 8 So Joe and Evan became friends not so long ago because Evan offered Joe a place to stay. And they had a lot in common.
They both love cars. They both became fathers when they were quite young.

Speaker 8 And they're both relentlessly outgoing.

Speaker 11 He's one of the most charming people I've ever met. If you leave him alone in a group of four or five strangers, he will be best friends with everybody inside of 30 minutes.

Speaker 11 He's absolutely a life of the party kind of guy and not in the like big, loud, over-the-top way and the like like kind of goes around and has a really great conversation with everyone where they feel like the center of the room.

Speaker 11 That's that's really his superpower is, I feel like, is that type of little conversational loop with people.

Speaker 8 When Joe's van was finished, they went their separate ways. Eventually, Joe went on to start a cannabis company in Northern California.
Evan stayed in North Carolina.

Speaker 8 But they stayed in touch, got to know each other more. And Joe started noticing another side of Evan, too.

Speaker 11 There's like two sides. There's Evan and Melvin.
Melvin is malicious Evan or like the evil side inside of him that like completely takes over, but I almost never see it.

Speaker 11 I see the aftermath of it, but he never lets me see full-blown.

Speaker 8 If there were drugs around, Evan would do as much as he could. To Joe, it felt like he didn't understand how a sacrifice in the present might be beneficial in the future.

Speaker 8 Despite the lurking threat of Melvin, around 2016, Joe convinced Evan to move out of California to work for him at his cannabis company. They manufacture the oils in THC pens.
Evan managed a team.

Speaker 8 Joe considered him his right-hand man.

Speaker 8 Joe had a strict no-hard drugs policy for his employees. And one day, Evan slipped.

Speaker 11 So I had a drug test kit on site. So I told him, I said, hey, we're going out back and let's go piss in a cup.

Speaker 9 And he was like, oh, oh, oh, you know, he started to freak out.

Speaker 11 And I tested him and it was like the thickest blue line for positive opiates ever. So I took him back to his room.
and we loaded up

Speaker 11 everything he owned and I said I just can't carry if you're going to do that. It was excruciating, man.
It was bad.

Speaker 11 And I knew it was going to go worse, but I just couldn't have it go worse in my living room. I had a lot of people who were counting on us to make good decisions to feed their families.

Speaker 11 And it was one of the toughest days ever in my business career because he was absolutely my best friend. And I felt like that day, I felt like it was like signing his death warrant.

Speaker 8 Once he separated from Joe, it didn't take Evan too long to make his way down to San Francisco.

Speaker 8 When Evan discovered that he could shoplift and sell what he stole and buy fentanyl all in the same place, he never left.

Speaker 8 That economy, the ease with which he could support his habit, is what kept him there. Joe went on to sell his company for a lot of money.

Speaker 8 He told me that after the sale, many of his employees got bonuses big enough for a down payment on a house. Evan, meanwhile, stole Tide Pods and slept on the street.

Speaker 11 I would fight anything to change it.

Speaker 9 If there was any series of tasks I could go through to get my best friend back, even if I didn't get him back, even if he just got his life back, I would go through hell.

Speaker 11 Because, like Evan, I love a challenging knives and daggers, bleeding in the streets, fight for something that's worth it. And for my best friend who helped me, I'm living my dream life right now.

Speaker 11 I live in my dream home with the greatest partner I could ever have. My kid goes to a wonderful school and is blossoming.

Speaker 9 The car that me and Evan always talked about, the insanity car, like the insane race car, it's in the garage, right? Like, uh,

Speaker 11 and I've completed all life dreams. I'm like, having to literally spend time making up new ones.
I would do anything to help him get back his portion of the dream because he helped me get mine.

Speaker 8 Over the years, Joe has tried to give Evan back his portion of that dream. One time he tracked Evan down in the tenderloin, rented a penthouse suite for them both with a jacuzzi tub.

Speaker 8 I've seen the pictures of Evan looking like a wet dog in a tub he has single-handedly turned absolutely filthy.

Speaker 8 Joe tried simply to return that favor that Evan offered him when they first met: a place to live.

Speaker 12 I was just like, hey, I talked to him about it. I said, hey, you know, I'm living alone on this land up north.
The wife has not moved in.

Speaker 12 I was like, you could move in and go through horrific withdrawal and be a total piece of shit. And nobody would know except me.
You can hang out.

Speaker 12 Like, I'll put you on salary, like, make a little money.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 12 And he was like, he just literally said, he's like, yeah, I'm not done yet.

Speaker 6 I'm not done yet.

Speaker 9 I'm not done yet.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I'm not, I don't think I'm done yet.

Speaker 8 Evan is just one of over 4,000 unsheltered people living in San Francisco. Unsheltered by this count means living on the street, bus stations, parks, tents, and abandoned buildings.

Speaker 8 There are around 4,000 more in temporary shelters. Nationally, those numbers are even more grim.

Speaker 8 2024, the number of people experiencing homelessness on a single night was 771,480, the highest number ever recorded in the United States.

Speaker 8 To be very clear, I'm not done yet is by no means a representative attitude of that whole. Unsheltered life is grueling, sometimes violent, and often deadly.

Speaker 8 Evans' willingness to leave that behind or not doesn't change that fact.

Speaker 8 There are many reasons why so many people in America are homeless, first among them being a lack of homes.

Speaker 8 It's no coincidence that things are so rough in one of the most expensive cities in America, while in places like West Virginia, which has its own opioid crisis and much cheaper housing, unsheltered homelessness is much more rare.

Speaker 8 This year, San Francisco elected a new mayor, Daniel Lurry, an ultra-wealthy moderate in a city famous for its progressive politics.

Speaker 13 Today marks the beginning of a new era of accountability and change at City Hall, one that, above all else, serves you, the people, of San Francisco.

Speaker 8 The new mayor has his work cut out for him. San Francisco has become emblematic of what sometimes gets called a doom loop, something that has happened in a lot of cities since the pandemic.

Speaker 8 In this loop, the office buildings empty out because of the pandemic and remote work. The stores and restaurants that served office workers are forced to shutter.
Crime soars. Tax revenues fall.

Speaker 8 Public transportation is forced to cut back so even fewer people come downtown and on and on and on.

Speaker 8 Lurry is not a tough on crime mayor. He's not gutting the city's addiction and homelessness services.

Speaker 8 But the way he spoke about these problems, which was the first topic in his inauguration speech, was different.

Speaker 13 I entered this mayor's race, not as a politician, but as a dad who couldn't explain to my kids what they were seeing on our streets.

Speaker 8 Lurry talks about what he could see, what the problem looks like, the effect of this constant onslaught of imagery on individual well-being.

Speaker 13 Widespread drug dealing, public drug use, and constantly seeing people in crisis has robbed us of our sense of decency and security.

Speaker 13 Now, safety isn't just a statistic, it's a feeling you hold when you're walking down the street.

Speaker 8 That instance. One reason he might be using these terms is that by the numbers, the unsheltered, visible, homeless population in San Francisco is nearly the same as it was 10 years ago.

Speaker 8 What has changed is everyone else. It's hard to get exact numbers, but downtown San Francisco has lost about two-thirds of its daytime population.

Speaker 8 That's hundreds of thousands of commuters and office workers gone. Which leaves just Evan and people like him.

Speaker 8 This, in short, might be called a visibility problem. People feel scared and maybe a little ashamed, having to see so many people experiencing homelessness every day.

Speaker 8 Which is an odd problem because for many people living on the street, a family member or a loved one is looking for them.

Speaker 8 Visible to a city that sees too much of them, invisible to families who would love nothing more than to see them. That's after the break.

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Speaker 8 In late February, about six weeks before Evan would find himself in the hospital, I met Liz Brully. Liz is in her 40s and lives in the mountains outside of San Francisco.

Speaker 8 She lives a sort of double life. Her day job is in the medical field, and in her spare time, she does something else.

Speaker 5 I'm not a private investigator, and nobody's paying me, and nobody's licensing me to do the work that I do.

Speaker 8 How would you describe what you do?

Speaker 5 I feel like I started doing one thing, right, in the beginning several years ago, and I feel like it's evolved into many different things.

Speaker 5 Primarily, I would say

Speaker 5 that I locate missing persons that are either

Speaker 5 mentally ill, drug addicted, and or experiencing homelessness.

Speaker 8 Liz finds missing people. She does this for free.
I've asked her probably 25 times why she does this, and even to her, it's not clear. What is clear is that there's plenty of finding to do.

Speaker 8 There are around 1,400 people on the San Francisco Police Department's missing persons list, and given that missing just means that someone somewhere is looking for you and has filed a police report, that number could be much higher.

Speaker 8 Liz and others who spend time in the tenderloin and encampments think that many of these people are here.

Speaker 8 which is strange considering all these disappeared people are far more visible than those of us spending our days in cars and offices, our nights in houses and apartments and bedrooms, while they're out on the street, exposed.

Speaker 8 In these first couple of months of the new mayoral administration, the city has been experimenting with new solutions to this problem of unsheltered homelessness and open drug use.

Speaker 8 There have been mass arrests of dealers and users, pushing the jail population to levels that haven't been seen in years.

Speaker 8 One corner of the tenderloin was turned into a triage center, which has since been shut shut down, where people could go for coffee, to be connected with city services, and be offered a free bus ticket out of town, courtesy of the city.

Speaker 8 But there's no city program that does what Liz does. She's a sort of one-woman case study of a different approach, a radical approach to this problem.

Speaker 8 Reconnect lost people with their families and see if things change.

Speaker 5 Most of the times when families get to meet, they think their loved one is deceased. And so they're almost just looking for validation that that's the case.

Speaker 5 And it's usually not.

Speaker 5 I have located, I don't know, well over 200 people. Maybe I don't even know.
It's been well over 200.

Speaker 8 Evan was once one of Liz's lost people. Do you remember who reached out to you about him the first time?

Speaker 5 Yeah, his sister did. His sister did.
He had been missing for several years. And she basically

Speaker 5 said, you know, this is my brother, and I heard what you do, and I'm wondering if you would help me. And I said, sure.

Speaker 8 There's no big secret to how Liz works. She asks families about their missing person, about their history of addiction and mental illness.
She checks arrest records.

Speaker 8 She's in frequent contact with the city morgue, but mostly she just adds pictures, like Evan's picture, to a folder in her phone, memorizes faces as best she can, and starts looking.

Speaker 8 And then one day, there Evan was.

Speaker 5 So I rolled down the window, I screamed, Evan, Evan.

Speaker 5 And he stopped and he looked at me.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 5 he basically was like, I don't know you. And I'm shouting at him from my car.
And I said, no, you don't know me. I just need to talk to you for a second.
And that's what started a,

Speaker 5 I don't know, four-year

Speaker 5 friendship, right, with him.

Speaker 8 Did Evan call his sister when you caught up with him?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 5 No, he did not. He just couldn't do it.

Speaker 8 A lot of people who Liz finds don't call their families. Many of them do call, but don't leave the street or go home.
One person I met through Liz put it this way.

Speaker 8 I don't want to be missing, and I don't want to be found either.

Speaker 8 So this limbo, not missing, not found, is where many of Liz's people stay for years.

Speaker 5 Every time they hear about someone overdosing or every time someone posts a video of a sheet over somebody, I'm getting a phone call from five parents asking me if I know who it is and if that's our kid.

Speaker 8 It's like the perception. Liz and I are driving around downtown San Francisco.
A lot of open drug use and encampments that were concentrated in the tenderloin are now more diffuse.

Speaker 8 In the Mission District, the alley behind the Everlane is packed with people smoking, injecting, laid out.

Speaker 8 Once in a while, a cleanup crew drives through, clears everyone out, hoses the alley down, and then everyone comes back.

Speaker 5 People were never spread out like this.

Speaker 5 I mean, there would be in certain areas I mean at night time there'd be 250 300 people and at night time it still gets like that when the cops aren't around but because the cops are really doing a lot of work with like patrolling and doing all this stuff it breaks them up.

Speaker 8 Today Liz has been looking for one guy in particular. A few weeks ago he asked her to find his mom and Liz learned pretty quickly that his mom had passed away.

Speaker 5 So but I also know that if I don't tell him no one else will.

Speaker 6 Yeah, because nobody even knows, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, and the only way to reach him is to do what we're doing today, which is going back out on the street to find him.

Speaker 8 Late in the afternoon,

Speaker 8 she sees the guy she's looking for.

Speaker 5 I think that's him.

Speaker 5 I think that's the guy.

Speaker 8 The man is wearing a red flannel, a corduroy jacket, a set of neon ski goggles around his neck.

Speaker 8 He's half standing out of his wheelchair, leaning over a row of trash cans, digging through the garbage and throwing things aside.

Speaker 8 Here's what will happen next.

Speaker 8 Liz will tell him the news that his mother has passed away. He'll cry and thank Liz for telling him.

Speaker 8 We'll smoke cigarettes together, even though Liz doesn't smoke cigarettes for 10 minutes and then 20 minutes as he tries to adjust to this new reality.

Speaker 8 But before any of this can happen, there's a problem. The street we pulled over in is narrow, and behind us, suddenly, is a white Jaguar SUV with no one in the driver's seat.

Speaker 8 A self-driving car is stuck behind us, with traffic backing up behind it, preventing this volunteer bearer of the worst possible news from doing doing her job.

Speaker 5 Well, it's definitely a feeling of helplessness, right? I mean,

Speaker 5 this kid is very, very sick.

Speaker 5 Yes, I'm like glad I was able to give him the information, you know, and hopefully like set him free a little bit from this like persistent state of looking.

Speaker 5 But in the same respect, it's like I'm leaving somebody a little bit worse than in the situation they were in.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And so it's deflating because even me, who is really like,

Speaker 5 I know the resources in the city, like, but

Speaker 5 like right now, there's nowhere to take him.

Speaker 8 It's not just San Francisco trying to ram a metaphorical self-driving car through a metaphorical alley of grief. Cities around the country are desperate to move on.

Speaker 8 Portland, Oregon elected a new mayor who pledged to end unsheltered homelessness after the state recriminalized drug drug possession after decriminalizing in 2021.

Speaker 8 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania elected a tough-on crime mayor and hired more police.

Speaker 8 Fremont, California criminalized not just homeless encampments, but aiding and abetting homeless encampments in any way.

Speaker 8 Everyone, from city leadership to regular people like Liz, seem desperate to move on and are willing to try new things.

Speaker 8 Liz, in part, does this work because no one else will.

Speaker 8 It's night now and Liz is still out looking for a few missing people.

Speaker 8 And tucked up behind the passenger side visor in her car, Liz has a bundle of printed out emails from Evan's family and a picture of his kid, a middle schooler now, playing the clarinet.

Speaker 8 At night, the plaza at 16th Admission turns into a packed open-air market of stolen goods.

Speaker 8 The sellers, mostly are addicts, hawking used clothes, kids' toys, phone chargers, a tricycle, and remarkably remarkably tonight, an enormous slab of bacon.

Speaker 8 The shoppers are mostly low-income San Franciscans, just chasing a good deal. Behind them are the dealers, many of them young Honduran men in masks.

Speaker 8 Hundreds of people are walking around this dark patch of concrete. Cash moves in one direction, from the buyers to the sellers to the dealers.

Speaker 8 Standing on one corner, leaning against a street sign is Evan.

Speaker 7 Every time, like the last, what, like five times it seems like, I've been like, I've been really needing to see Liz today. I need to see Liz.
Today, I literally kept thinking today.

Speaker 7 I was like, I need to find her. I need to find her.

Speaker 8 This is the first time I met Evan weeks before our conversation in the hospital.

Speaker 8 Evan is looking shaggy but in relatively good health. And he swears that when he needs Liz, he can manifest her.

Speaker 5 How are you though? Why didn't you manifest me?

Speaker 8 Because

Speaker 7 I have to figure something out.

Speaker 6 Okay, what do you got going?

Speaker 8 Evan tells Liz that he hasn't been able to keep much food down for weeks and his legs are infected and extremely swollen.

Speaker 8 Leg infections are common for fentanyl users like Evan due to contaminants in the supply and side effects from injection.

Speaker 8 It's why you see so many people in wheelchairs.

Speaker 6 I can't go.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I know. That's what I'm saying.
So I need some... I need...

Speaker 7 I'm

Speaker 7 with my leg and my stomach. I'm just like, I'm over this.

Speaker 6 I'm so over. I'm so over.

Speaker 7 I am like...

Speaker 7 I'm just ready. Something to change.

Speaker 8 Liz, as Evan is speaking, is beaming. This was a full 180 from the I'm Not Done Yet, Evan told Joe, and Joe tried to get him off the street years ago.

Speaker 8 This was the first time in the years Evan and Liz have known each other that Evan has said he wanted to get off the street and get off that money.

Speaker 7 I'm sorry, like falling apart.

Speaker 7 And in a way, I'm kind of

Speaker 7 glad because it's kind of making me turn to like, to

Speaker 11 stop.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Because I feel like if I don't, I'm.

Speaker 8 It might not sound like much, but when someone like Evan, who's been addicted to opioids for many, many years, says, I'm ready, this is the moment that San Francisco's and many cities' strategy to address this problem is built on.

Speaker 8 So here we were. Evan is ready to get off the street.
The city of San Francisco is eager to help.

Speaker 8 Evan's readiness is supposed to trigger action, a chance to put a dent in this visible suffering that haunts the mayor and so many other San Franciscans.

Speaker 8 Plus, Evan Scott Liz, who has a car and a phone.

Speaker 8 How hard could it be?

Speaker 8 That's next week.

Speaker 8 No Easy Fix is produced and reported by me, Ethan Brooks, editing by Jocelyn Frank and Hannah Rosen. Engineering by Rob Smersiak.
Fact-checking by Sam Fentris.

Speaker 8 Claudine Abade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio. Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.

Speaker 8 See you next week.

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