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I'm from a very rural background myself.

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Hello.

Welcome in to Radio Rental.

We're a video rental shop with a collection of the scariest true horror stories you've ever heard in your life.

And I am your host, shopkeeper, extraordinaire, and former AM radio personality, Terry Carnation.

I am so excited to have you here with us during this very special time of year.

It's the spooky season.

That's right, it's finally October, and it's no longer weird or off-putting to wear a black cloak and a mask around town.

It's no longer inappropriate to offer candy to children.

Suddenly, all of my regular hobbies and interests are accepted, culturally accepted and embraced.

Finally.

After a lifetime of judgment.

And speaking of hobbies and interests, you'll be interested to know I've started collecting antique furniture.

That's right.

I love antiquing.

It's so cool and hip, and you can find the neatest old things that are creaky and obscure and at great prices, too.

For example, I found this upright piano at a nearby estate sale just this week.

Check it out.

Pure rosewood and real ivory.

And oh, look, someone has carved their initials in it um it reads

help me

those aren't initials

okay needs a little tuning and a lot of dusting

possibly fumigation mold inspection but look how cool and guess what it was totally free can you believe it I was just walking past this decrepit estate that seemed to be falling down all around itself, and the piano was sitting outside with a little sign that said, Three, please take, please,

please take.

We beg of you.

So that's that's a clear sign from the universe.

Anyway, I am now able to tickle the old ivories whenever Terry pleases.

But alas, I'm not sure what

huh.

That was that was weird.

I didn't even

touch the piano.

Anyway,

I'm sure you're here for some horror stories from my secret collection of tapes.

So let's do it.

Oh,

how about this, doozy?

You're gonna love this.

Hey,

what it what it

anyway, roll tape.

I have a house I bought a year ago.

I run it as an Airbnb.

It's an investment property to me.

It's a good property.

You know, it cash flows decently well.

It's nothing crazy.

Really, it's just in an Airbnb investment property for me.

It has a normal front yard, normal backyard.

You know, it's fully fenced in.

I have two sheds in my backyard.

One of them is completely broken.

I have a lock on it.

And then the other one we use as our laundry room.

What's in there is a laundry machine, a dryer, and a water heater.

That's pretty much it.

It was a Friday.

Normal work stuff.

Calling some sellers or calling some realtors, trying to get some deals done through my real estate business.

2-3 p.m.

I get a notification of somebody in my front yard.

And I go on the camera,

click on it to see, like, okay, like, you know, what's going on.

It's a guy opening my front fence.

And then he wanders to my backyard.

He had a white t-shirt, black shorts, and a backpack.

And then he had glasses.

I turn on the camera and I see him in the backyard.

I'm like, bro, you gotta be kidding me.

I don't have time for this.

He was wandering around in circles in my backyard.

Like he was confused, like he was hiding from somebody

and then he went in the shed

I'm watching this

what is guy doing

how the shed is angled you can't see inside it I don't know if he was taking a nap in the shed I don't know if it was something that like you know I wouldn't want to know about

I've never seen this guy prior, so it wasn't like a consistent thing.

I just thought it was somebody messing around my property.

I don't know what he's doing inside there.

I don't know why he even went in there.

I need to get this guy out.

I have a ring camera in my backyard.

I turn on the microphone and I'm talking to him.

Yo, what are you doing?

Why are you in my shed?

Are you looking for something?

I see you, get out of my shed.

I'm going to call the police if you don't leave.

He's not leaving.

And that's why I called the police.

Hey, I just watched this guy go into my backyard and go into my shed.

I'm not local, unfortunately.

I just want to get this guy out of my shed.

Could you please send an officer over to my house?

I'm just going to keep watching this guy, making sure he's not doing anything crazy.

or trying to break into my house.

I get a notification on my phone that there's movement in my front yard.

Four or five officers

during this, I'm still watching the backyard camera.

They gather around the shed,

and then two guys have their guns.

Two guys go in there,

they looked around for a minute,

and they came out,

they didn't find anything.

They They walk to my back door

That's when I turn on my mic again

Hey guys, is there nobody in there

and they're like no

I've literally been watching this the whole time

He didn't leave

Nobody left that shed.

He has to still be in there

They go in again

He wasn't in there.

At least at that point, we're like, okay, we're wasting time here.

It looked like I was insane because I was watching him do pretty much nothing.

I had no idea what to think.

And I'm like, hey, yo, I'm so sorry for wasting your time.

I swear, like, this guy never left.

Like, I don't know what's going on.

I really appreciate you guys coming out.

And then they left.

I re-watched the camera.

I'm like, am I seeing things?

Did this guy leave?

Did somebody even walk in there?

Like, am I just making this up in my head?

I started re-watching the footage,

making sure I didn't miss anything, making sure that he didn't leave the front yard, you know, while I was watching the backyard and the camera missed it.

And

he never left.

The ring doorbell, I re-watched that.

He never left.

I re-watched the backyard camera.

He never left.

I re-watched the front yard camera, he never left.

I had to have missed something because there's no way that this happened, and I didn't pick it up.

And this guy just disappeared.

I didn't even know what to think.

And that's when I was talking to some friends and family, showing them what happened, and they were like, wow, that is

weird.

The next day,

I get notification on my camera again,

and it says it's picking up motion in the backyard.

What's going on?

So I click on it.

I see there's a guy in my backyard.

And then I go to my front yard and I see him in my front yard.

He goes out my fence

and then wanders off the screen.

Man, what's up with two days in a row of people wandering around my house?

What's going on?

So I I want to see, you know, how this guy gets in my backyard because I didn't get notification that he was in my front yard.

How did he get to my backyard without me knowing that he was in my front yard?

I go to my front yard cameras,

nobody ever came.

I go to my backyard camera,

and

the motion picks up this guy leaving the shed.

The recording started right when he stepped out of the shed.

There's no motion prior to him wandering in the backyard,

coming from another area, coming from my front yard, coming from my neighbor's yard.

The first motion was the first step out of the shed.

The second person looked surprisingly similar to the first person

with the same glasses.

They looked very similar face structure-wise,

but one was probably about 30 years older.

I was mind-blown.

What

just happened?

What is this?

What's going on here?

How is this possible?

Is this the same guy?

Is this a different guy?

You know, why do they look the same?

I called my contractor.

I sent him the pictures of the people seeing if he knew these people, which he didn't.

My first guess was that my camera messed up.

But my camera,

like, it didn't mess up.

I would be able to admit it if it did.

And it didn't.

It didn't mess up twice in a row.

Me looking through the footage hundreds of times

and seeing that my camera didn't mess up.

it has to be something

supernatural

just putting one and one together I'm like this guy goes into my shed younger

never leaves my shed

cops go in there twice

I watch the cameras I never see him leave then the next day

an old guy Leaves my shed.

I never see him walk into my front yard.

I never see him walk into my backyard.

And then he wanders off.

And the two guys look the same.

Just one is way older.

What if it's a time traveler?

That was kind of like the theory I was putting together.

As I started kind of clipping them and putting them together, seeing the resemblance, that's when I started thinking,

what if it is

otherwise like I don't know what what it could have been

I exposed everything like I screenshotted their faces and put it all online and a lot of people internet being how the internet is started doing face searches and you know looking into the two guys

while we were doing that

Somebody discovers

that the old guy resembles a man named Stephen A.

Miller.

This guy, Stephen A.

Miller, was a Harvard graduate.

Stephen A.

Miller looks pretty much identical to the old guy.

When I saw this theory, I'm like, oh, we figured it out.

We found it.

This is who it is.

Who is this guy?

This guy, Stephen Miller, was obsessed with time travel.

He used to post on blogs about time travel.

He used to have websites based on like nuclear energy and like theories and time travel.

He had interviews about time travel

and he looks the same as my guy.

But this guy died in 2018.

I've never heard of this guy prior to this incident.

There's no way I would have ever heard about this guy.

You know, he died six years ago.

I believe it was a time traveler.

I don't know what else it could be.

I wish somebody could tell me otherwise.

Although it seems far-fetched and like a crazy idea,

I saw what I saw.

And unless I get evidence that proves it otherwise, that's what I saw.

What other explanation is there?

Woza, Stephen A.

Miller.

Hmm.

You know,

it might be the same Steve Miller from the Steve Miller band.

Do you ever think of that?

I would look into that.

Could be your culprit.

I mean,

think about this.

Time keeps on slipping, slipping, slipping

into the future of my shed.

Something like that.

Seems like something that a time traveler might say.

I mean, he's basically confessing in that song.

Hmm.

I've connected the dots once again.

But, anywho, you have to watch a property for freeloading time travelers.

I mean, what is with that?

The man thinks he can just, like, bill and Ted in your backyard shed?

He thinks he can use your shed as the...

as some kind of TARDIS and not compensate you for it?

I mean, it doesn't seem right.

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Who?

That story was especially chilling, and I have to say that my.

Did you do that?

I didn't do that.

Who did that?

Malachi, did you do that?

Back there somewhere?

Hmm.

Odd.

Okay, maybe it's just in my head.

Maybe I just have the muse with me today embedded in my skull, and I'm imagining the beginning of my next great piano opus.

You see, I actually did used to play in a.

Oh.

Okay, okay.

That's enough.

Seriously.

Who's doing that?

Who is...

Malachi, are you fucking with me?

Have you tied strings to the keys of this piano?

Alright, okay.

You're away over there in another part of the

room.

Well, anyway, no time like the present.

to play the next horror story.

Dear customer, what do you say?

How does that sound to you, my dearest, dearest patron?

Okay, um

that's weird.

Never mind.

Great.

Okay, here we go.

Roll tape.

This is fall of 2004.

I was going to college, but I didn't want to live at home.

I wanted freedom and independence, even though home was 10 minutes across town, and so I moved in with my Nana.

I had the entire second floor to myself.

It was an addition, so it was pretty small.

It was two bedrooms, like the smallest hallway, and then a bathroom.

We had Venetian blinds on the windows.

Nana loved them.

She would not change them.

The bedroom that I stayed in overlooked the covered patio.

It was about a five-foot drop to the patio.

From there, you could walk either to the front of the house or the back of the house and kind of climb down.

The second bedroom over,

it had one window, but it was just a straight 20-foot drop.

There was no way to get up into that bedroom.

That window didn't open.

My bedroom upstairs was the only bedroom that had a sliding door window, like that you could open and close.

It was just a random night, nothing special was going on.

And I heard a knock at the window.

I'm on the second floor.

There's that five-foot drop.

And somebody's knocking at the window.

It didn't feel friendly.

It's dark outside.

My bedroom light is on.

The Venetian blinds are closed, but they're not closed enough, so whoever's out there can see in.

I cannot see out.

My entire body went cold.

I just stood there frozen.

I couldn't move.

I always thought I'd be so brave in like a scary situation.

I was not brave.

I completely froze.

And then I kind of snapped out of it because then I'm like Nana's downstairs.

I knew I had to walk by this window to get my cell phone that was on the charger, which is also next to the landline.

So even if I wanted to call anybody, I'm going to have to walk by this window to get the phone.

I finally muster up the courage.

I run by the window as quick as I possibly can,

grab my cell phone,

and then I go into the bedroom next door.

barricade myself in.

It never occurred to me to call the police because there's tapping on my window.

Like, I just felt so silly if I were to call them and say that.

And I was young and 18 and I didn't want to make a fuss.

But I had wanted to call my best friend Jay at the time.

He was working security at a rave in Oakland.

And so I knew if I called him, he's not going to be able to get to me in time.

His normal five, 10 minute drive across town to me, this is now like a 45, 60 minute drive.

I ended up calling the boy I was seeing at that time

who told me,

wow, that sucks.

You must be scared.

And then he hung up.

I called Jay and I said, I know that you are in Oakland right now, that you're not near me.

Do you have any friends that are in the area that can come and help and just sit with me?

Because I'm scared.

And he said, I'm on my way.

And like 25 minutes later, he was at my house.

He came upstairs.

He went out onto the roof.

He was a lot taller than I was.

He can make that drop easily.

And he could see, though, that

there was footprints all over the roof.

They were big, like boot footprints.

Nobody had been on that roof in years since before my papa had died.

There was no reason to be up there.

There wasn't like maintenance or anything.

You weren't hanging Christmas lights up there.

There was no reason for there to be footprints on that roof.

My Nana was downstairs sleeping.

She's hard of hearing.

I didn't want to wake her up.

I didn't want to scare her.

I managed to calm myself down and then I slept in the second bedroom.

that night.

The next night, I slept at my girlfriend's house,

came home that day, was hanging out with my Nana.

Everything's fine and normal.

And then she happens to mention, hey, were you expecting anybody to come over last night?

And I said, no, why?

And she said, somebody was banging on the front door and the windows, and they woke me up in the middle of the night.

And so that made me really angry.

I wasn't scared anymore and I was angry.

Nana was older.

She was in her 70s.

She's very hard of hearing.

So for that to have woken her up,

that must have been incredibly loud, all of that banging.

I called a couple friends that I had in high school that were known to be pranksters and just asked them like, hey, was this you?

Ha ha, you pulled a good one on me.

That was funny.

Like, let's not do this anymore.

And they all swore up and down it was not them.

I asked around, can you go check with this person?

Can you check with that person?

Just kind of put the word out that like something was going on.

Nobody claimed that it was them doing this.

We had talked to my dad and my mom about it, and even they were kind of like, what are they going to do?

Are they going to come dust for fingerprints?

They were not thinking that we needed to call the police or involve any type of law enforcement to escalate it.

So I had no answers.

Nothing happened that night at my window.

Everything was fine.

I was like, okay, well, maybe it's over.

Maybe it's just a fluke thing.

Maybe for some reason they've got our houses confused.

They think our house is somebody else's house.

I don't know.

The next night, night four,

I had left my cell phone at that boy's house who I was saying.

I got home, went upstairs, grabbed the landline, called him and was like, hey, I left my phone.

Can you drop it off?

Neana's asleep downstairs, so just, you know, don't call the house, just maybe honk or knock lightly at the door, I'll come down and get it.

A few minutes later, I hear rocks being thrown at my window.

So I assume, okay, it's him.

I go downstairs, I open the door,

Nobody's there.

It's still light out at this point too, so it's not like I missed anybody.

There's nobody in the front yard.

I kind of check the street.

His car's not there.

The phone's not like in the mailbox or anything.

Close the door, back upstairs.

The second I walked back into my room,

there is pounding on my window.

Like a full fist.

Somebody as hard and loud as they can.

The window is shaking.

It is so hard.

At the top of the stairs was a small hall closet, and we had a souvenir bat from an Oakland A's game.

And I grabbed it.

I ran downstairs,

flung open the door.

Nobody is there.

They just disappeared into thin air.

Those rocks in the driveway, they make a sound.

I'd be able to hear them running up and down the street.

I would hear a car peeling off.

If they were to have gone through the backyard to leave, they would have had to hop like a nine-foot fence.

It didn't make sense.

I got back upstairs and I'm trying to calm down.

And there's knocking on the front window.

It was a different type of knocking.

It had a different feel to it.

It's the boy I'm seeing.

He's with my phone.

He's got a couple of his friends and they're all standing in the window waving.

Like, hi, we're here.

Here's your phone.

And I asked, I'm like, hey, while you were driving over, do you happen to see anybody running through the neighborhood?

Anybody pass your car?

Anybody look weird to you?

Anybody, you know, maybe driving a little too fast to get out of the neighborhood?

And they did not see anybody either.

They're a bunch of dudes.

They didn't care.

They thought, I'm being silly, you're hearing things,

you know, you're being dramatic.

They didn't think anything of it.

They just left.

I slept with the bat that night and probably for about a week or so after,

but it never happened again.

I don't know who it was.

I don't know why.

That's just a very sinister thing to do to somebody.

Like, why would you do that?

No one wanted to spend the night anymore.

I didn't have a lot of takers.

They wanted to stay at their house,

which is fair.

Jesus, people, if you want a woman's attention, just woo her in a normal and approachable way.

You don't have to be so weird about it.

Do what I did.

When I was courting my last girlfriend, Rita, before the loss of my late wife, Zelon, I would leave her little love notes under the pen name Leonard.

And after a few years of lying to her about this, I finally, one night, followed her into a dark alley and introduced myself as the author of said love poetry.

She feigned fear and overwhelm, but she loved it.

We had a good time.

So maybe just try something like that next time.

For more love advice by me, Terry Carnation, write me at my website.

I have so much love advice to give.

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Who knows?

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Now, wasn't that last story just?

Okay, I...

I don't...

I really, I don't.

I don't like that this is happening.

I feel like I'm interpreting that free sign a little differently now.

Maybe the please take was a little more desperate than I thought.

Maybe it's less of a sign from the universe and more like a call for help.

I mean, I don't really want to say it, but I feel like this piano is haunted.

My God, that's unnerving.

I should never have brought it in here.

Oh.

Why didn't I learn that lesson with that old amulet back from 2004?

I should have left antiquing to the hipsters and the hoarders and the Etsiers.

I knew I shouldn't have.

Okay, you know what?

This is just rude.

Why do you keep interrupting me?

If you're going to be the haunted piano, just wait till there's a pause.

Have a little class.

Read the room.

Okay, now you're just being an asshole.

I'm not going to sit around.

Okay, that's it.

You're out.

You're out in the trash first thing tomorrow.

Oh, funny.

Hilarious, Mr.

Piano.

Well, maybe one night I'll just snip your strings with some pruning shears.

Who'll be laughing then, huh?

That's good.

That's good.

That was pretty good.

That was pretty funny.

Radio Rental is created by Payne Lindsay and brought to you by Tenderfoot TV.

Lead producer is Eric Quintana.

Executive producers are Payne Lindsay and Donald Albright.

Hosted by Rain Wilson as his character, Terry Carnation.

Written and produced by Meredith Stedman.

Additional writing by Mark Lachlan.

Supervising producer is Tracy Kaplan.

Associate producer is Jaja Muhammad.

Editing by Eric Quintana, Mike Rooney, Steven Perez, and Meredith Steadman.

Sound design by Cooper Skinner with additional sound design by Steven Perez and April Ruha.

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My favorite murder is the podcast that defined a genre.

This is tough.

In 2016, we decided to combine true crime and comedy, and we thought, this will be great.

There will be no problems.

All the brave podcasters before us.

Yep.

I don't want people to go like, they're amazing.

I want them to go, they're brave.

Yes.

That's so brave that you went on to video with that face.

What a brave choice.

You're really changing lives and minds.

New episodes every Thursday on Exactly Right.

Listen to My Favorite Murder on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Goodbye.