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I'm telling you folks, this stuff is spooky. Now, you may not recognize me or maybe you have tapped into your intuition, your, let's call it the third eye center, and found the answer.

I am Ricky Lee Bagley, astrological advisor to the stars, and Terry Carnation is one of my longtime clients.

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But we've got some scary stories this week, folks. I ain't lying.
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But first, oh God,

hold on. Here they come.
I got a few astrological messages on the way. Oh, they're hitting me hard.
All right, here we go. First one, Leo.
This month, you may feel an insatiable inner hunger.

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Take it home for leftovers.

Tell them you got kids at home that need to eat, even if you don't. Don't matter who cares.
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i'm sorry about that, folks. Those come on strong.
I mean they came on strong and stayed on long.

That gave me a little bit of a headache but we'll get to a few more forecasts later when I get hit with another wave of them.

Oh hey there Malachi.

All right here we go.

Now folks, I'm going to tell you right up front, full disclosure, I felt a negative aura from this tape. I'm not lying.

It kind of creeps me out a little bit.

But that negative aura probably means it's unsettling, which is what you're here for, right? Don't lie, that's what you're here for. So let's pop it in.

Enjoy the tape. I'm going to see y'all on the other side, friends.

Growing Growing up, I lived in and around Sulphur and Davis, Oklahoma.

In Sulphur, Oklahoma, they have a place called the Chickasaw National Recreation Area. This is Oklahoma's oldest national park.

The Chickasaw National Recreation Area is surrounded with water, trees, and natural beauty.

And it's beautiful, thousands of acres, a lot of camping, fishing, swimming, hiking.

Around Around that time, I was doing homeschooling. So I had a lot of time on my hands because it was like, okay, I got my homework done.

And well, what do you do in a small town, but you go ride your mountain bike?

And that's what I did a lot of the times was I rode up and down all the trails. I mean, I knew that part like the back of my hand.

So one day, I decided to take a little bit longer trip. And so I took off to a place called Bison Springs.

It's a natural spring where they have bison that come out and they graze and they water out there, and it's real nice.

And I guess I kind of stayed out there a little too long.

As I came back,

it got a little darker than I was used to.

As I was riding my bike down the trail,

I wasn't looking up in the hills or anything.

I was just looking ahead because I'm trying to not crash, trying to stay focused on what was ahead of me and all of a sudden a sharp pain hit me on my left leg.

It caused me a lot of pain and I started groaning.

I'm looking around trying to find what hit me or what I had hit. I had no idea what was going on.

Until a few seconds later, something else came flying out of the woods and smashed into the front part of my bike and dented some of the spokes, nearly knocking me over.

Didn't like knock me off the bike, but it definitely made me stop.

And I looked up into the hills.

I said, hey, you hit me.

And I could hear... rustling.
I could hear leaves crunching. I could hear sticks breaking.
Then Then at that point, I got scared.

I started getting nervous because I knew something

was definitely nearby. Something was obviously trying to harm me.

That just intensified my fear, knowing that there was something up there wanting to hurt me.

I didn't have a gun. I didn't have a knife.
I didn't have any way of defending myself. I didn't even have a cell phone.

But

figuring maybe I could play the head game of scaring somebody up there in the hills, saying that I had a phone,

I thought, maybe that'll scare them to walk off or leave me alone.

It was a full moon, so I could see to a certain degree.

And when I yelled out that I had a phone, that I was going to call the cops, all I see is this dark figure stand up.

I could hear it running down that hill in my direction and screaming.

And all I seen was hair

and a lot of it.

I just, I froze.

I just kind of stood there, absolutely petrified.

I finally snapped out of whatever trance I was in, as it were. I said, nope, nope, I'm taking off.
So I got on my bike and I took off as fast as my legs could carry me.

Nearly coming off of the low water bridge to cross over the creek.

God only knows what would have happened if...

I would have lost control and fell into the creek, knowing that this thing was right behind me.

Once I passed the creek, I was still shaking so hard from fear

every couple of minutes. I was looking behind me.
I was going behind buildings.

Once I got it to a certain point, I finally was able to stop and look. And

I didn't hear anything. I didn't see anything.

And at that point, I was able to kind of take a breath, slow down, and figure out what just happened.

My main thinking was

something

large and something hairy.

Did I just seriously have an encounter with Bigfoot

in Sulphur, Oklahoma?

So I got home, and

my mom was actually working that night, so I didn't even get a chance to tell her. And I was, I was still just, I was so shaken up that I felt like

I was needing to either reassure myself that it was or it was not.

I was very 50-50 on it because my logical mind was saying

that's not what happened. There is no Bigfoot up in these mountains.
But then the other part of me is like,

you just had something

scary just happen, and you seen with your own eyes something large, something with lots of hair, as it looked like,

something screaming and bellowing at you, running down a hill, chasing you, throwing something at you.

And you just got out of there.

Finally, I was able to get some rest. And I knew that the next day I needed to tell the authorities.
I needed to tell someone because if this happened to me, it's going to happen to somebody else.

Who knows what would happen if someone else was not able to get away? What if someone else was not able to defend themselves?

What if someone was not able to get on a bicycle and ride away as fast as they could?

So, the next morning after I woke up, I went ahead and rode my bike to downtown where the ranger station is

and went inside and talked to one of the rangers. And I let them know the entire experience that I was attacked by

something

last night.

They interviewed me, asked me, like, what was it?

I told them truthfully, I said, I don't know what exactly it was,

but I do know that it was something large and that I felt that it was dangerous, that it could potentially harm somebody else. They went down the list of, oh, was it a bobcat? Was it a mountain lion?

What exactly was it that you're saying attacked you?

I knew that there was no real way that I was going to be able to describe this creature to them without them thinking that I'm completely insane.

But I knew that I needed to for the safety of other people.

I explained to them that whatever this

large creature was was on two legs. with lots of hair

and

that after I made the threat of calling police,

that's when it charged at me down the hill.

That was about the time that the facial expression changed from, oh my God, to

Rye,

you were attacked by a large, hairy, man-like creature in the woods. And yeah, okay, sure.

And so at that point, that's when the Ranger pulled out a sheet of paper and he wrote down mockingly: Justin Finley was attacked by Bigfoot in the park.

And I was like, Well, you know, look at this freaking bruise on my leg.

That must show you something. It hit me hard enough that it caused a bruise on my thigh.
And I told him, I can take you downstairs right now and I can show you my spokes of my wheel.

They are dented in from something hitting it so hard.

He's like,

okay,

sure.

I just kind of rolled my eyes and I said,

look,

I know what happened to me last night. And I just wanted to let you know so that way you could take precaution.
And if someone else said something,

if something else happened to somebody else, and he said,

okay, well, we'll keep that in mind. Thanks a lot, Justin.

Very much, you know, passed it off as whatever.

I just said, yeah, thanks. And turned around, walked down the stairs, got on my bike, and I left.

About three days later, give or take, I wasn't really wanting to get back on the trails, so I was sticking with the main roads.

And as I was coming down one of the main roads, The park ranger, he pulled up in his truck and he turned on his lights and everything to get my attention.

He pulled up next to me and he's like, hey, Justin,

I need to apologize to you.

At first, I wasn't really sure what he meant.

And I was like, why do you need to apologize to me? He said, well, about the other day about your report.

for not believing you.

We had an incident happen the other night in the park,

and it kind of corroborates what happened to you that evening.

He told me about how there was a couple who was camping in the area, and they were hiking down that same trail. It was well past night, and

said that something

was throwing rocks and sticks at them.

Well, they did did have a cell phone. So they ended up calling the police, who, of course, in turn called the park rangers since they were on site.
And so they came in and

they found the ruckus going on on the other side of the creek and crossed over the low water bridge and they held their guns up

and they found

a man.

And they ended up having to tackle this guy.

They arrested him

and

took him in.

And he was about like six something. He said he was a very big guy, but he was an old man.

I asked, well, was he a camper? Was he a homeless guy? Like,

who was he?

They said that what it was was

he had escaped the veterans home on Veterans Lake on the other side of Bromite Hill,

where veterans from foreign wars, they go there and they live out the rest of their lives, almost like a nursing home, an assisted living home.

Well, he had medication, but didn't take his medicine.

So because of that,

he was out in the woods and he thought that he was back in Vietnam. And so he made his own ghillie suit, as it were, out of mud, sticks, leaves, things like that.

And he was up there in the hills naked and

said

that he had long hair and he had a beard.

So he said that corroborates the whole large hairy creature running at you.

As far as the rocks and sticks, he thought that he was back in Vietnam throwing grenades at the enemy.

I asked, well, what's going to happen to this guy? They said they were actually going to take him to a different facility, get him on medications, and that he would get the help that he needed.

At that time, though, he needed me to go to the police station, give my story about what had happened, so that that way they could build up a file for the guy.

I just, I'm glad that he didn't have a knife or something else with him.

And I'm glad that I ran.

That right there, that was weird. W-E-E-E-R-D weird.

I mean, seriously, that's like Bigfoot meets Rambo barbarity. And I don't, to be honest with with you, I don't know which one's scarier, Bigfoot or Rambo.
I'd have to ponder that a little bit.

But that gets me to thinking, which I do quite often, what is Bigfoot's astrological sign?

Because

I feel, in my kind of spidey senses, it might be Taurus. Taurus is a classical earth sign.
And we all know Tauruses love to eat. You know you do.

Hell, you ought to see my cousin Ronald and he's a Taurus.

But another strong case could be made for Aquarius because Aquariuses, they're elusive, they're alien, they're detached from the rest of society. So I'm going to go with that.

I'm going to say Bigfoot is most definitely an Aquarius. You heard it here first, folks.
Breaking news story. Bigfoot is an Aquarius.

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All right, we're back from the ads. So let's see here.
Here is the next tape. I'm going to go with this one.
I'm

feeling this one. You know, this one's got a strong vibe.
Very strong. And it's also the one on top of the pile.

So, without a doubt, let's check it out.

Telling you the story, like speaking it, is the first time that I've ever told the story.

I haven't told any of my loved ones.

I don't have a type of job where, you know, you want people questioning your sanity.

I never told anybody.

Sometime around 2015,

I had

gotten into hunting pretty good and had some friends that I worked with that had some property out in Middle Georgia and we would go out there and hunt with those guys all the time.

After about the first year,

my friend called me and told me he had a really, really big opportunity on a hunting lease out there that was probably about 20 minutes away from his property that he had.

Just an old abandoned hunting lease just kind of fell in their lap.

It was awesome in terms of a hunting property. It was in the middle of nowhere, and I mean, hadn't been touched in years.

And it dead-ended after about a mile and a half through the woods into the property. Maybe 100 to 150 acres or so of just wilderness.

It was obviously an abandoned hunting club, and I don't know how long it had been abandoned, probably, you know, 10 years or so, but it had like a cabin on it. They had put roadways on it.

This was somebody's like baby or some family's, family's, they really like this place.

The property, especially the cabin, there's just something, something strange about it.

I'm really not a superstitious dude at all, like not even a little bit, but something just felt kind of strange being out there in the woods like that, especially on that property.

And it's not that I hadn't done much hunting. I've been hunting for a long time.
And, you know, you're out there in the middle of nowhere by yourself, just you and a rifle.

there were months stretches where we didn't go out to the property which is a good thing for hunting you know that means that the the animal population's not being disturbed by people all the time but the front door of the cabin would be just wide open

and it's a locked door it's not like we forget to lock the door

there's a gate to the property that's padlocked with a combo on it and that would be locked but you get up there and the dang cabin door would be open you know undisturbed inside too.

So it's not like a vagrant or something had accidentally wandered a mile and a half down a dirt road in the middle of nowhere and tried to find like refuge in the cabin or something.

Maybe the wind was just right or something and blew the door open. Okay, well, that's that's something.

There was another time that I was out there hunting. I heard a really strange noise coming from the woods, like a section of woods between the two plots.

And it was like a huffing sort of noise, like a

the sound was coming from different sections of the woods and from different depths.

So it was hard to place what it was.

And we just figured, oh, it's probably a black bear or something had come down there, which we didn't really see any of those down there, but that was the only thing we could think of.

Just like weird little strange kind of oddities that made you kind of uncomfortable sometimes being out there by yourself.

One time I'm down there by myself.

I get to the cabin.

The door to the cabin's wide open.

I made my trek down to the bottom food plot. You know, you're trying to be as quiet as you possibly can.

Set up for the night and sat in my stand.

Normally when you do that, it does kind of get a little bit quiet because you just interrupted everything.

Oh, here's this thing that's not supposed to be here walking through the area. So the birds, the chipmunks, if there were deer in the area, all eyes are on you in that moment.

I took my stand.

Didn't really see much activity deer-wise, but for every time you go out there and you don't see deer, you see all sorts of other wildlife.

And I'm just kind of sitting down there enjoying it as the sun is going down and bright as the sun had crested over the trees. So you didn't have much light left.

10, 15 minutes go by and the life of the woods just kind of comes back. The birds come back around, squirrels are running around, rabbits are making too much noise.

Everyone has kind of forgotten that you have sat this stand and nothing's out of place, nothing's unusual.

I'm sitting there

and all of a sudden the woods just kind of uniformly go dead silent

the entire woods just went quiet

deafeningly loud noise to just nothing

That's like a really really strange creepy thing to happen

And I just got really, really spooked.

I really hadn't experienced something quiet like that before. I mean, I had no idea what was going on, like why everything got quiet.

Obviously, they got quiet when I walked in,

but for it to go quiet again, in my mind, that means something else has shown up that has caused those animals enough concern to go dead quiet again.

And if I'm not that,

what's making them stop and do that?

I got legitimately scared.

That's not normal.

I went from just kind of feeling a little off to, I'm going to discontinue this hunt like right now.

I got down off of the stand and I started walking back up the food plot.

I do not recall ever hearing the woods come back.

I didn't hear the birds. I didn't hear the cicadas or anything making any noise, but I'm walking back up the road, and that's when I felt there's something behind me right now.

And I just kind of spun and turned and looked back down the road towards the food plot.

In the middle of the road,

there's something standing there.

what is that

and this is about a hundred yards away and it is past dusk now it's dark but it's there's still enough light to know that there's something in the middle of the road there

and it wasn't something that I could really make out it looked like something standing upright like a like a person almost standing upright

Which made no sense because I'm in the middle of absolute nowhere

It's not like an an animal. It's not a deer.
It's not a dog. It's not something else.
It's not a fox. It's something that is standing upright in the middle of the road.

It wasn't a person. I knew that almost immediately, even though my mind is trying to tell me this is the only thing that you know that stands up like that.

It's a person, but what I was seeing wasn't a person.

So I pulled up my rifle and I put it in the scope.

The scope that I had, pretty expensive scope, but it was expensive because it holds light a lot better than the naked eye. So I could see it a little bit better.

The best way that I think that I could describe what I was seeing was something standing upright, almost like a deer was standing up on its hind legs

and just staring at me.

I could make out the head area and the eyes standing there in this normal kind of pronounced like a stance that a person would take but it's not a person

it's most definitely not

the impression that i was getting was like hey this is my spot and you're out here and you're not supposed to be here right now and i want you to go away That's what was going through my head as I'm watching the stance of this thing as it's staring at me.

Deer are not not like that. It doesn't matter if you're in the middle of nowhere.
Deer are extremely skittish animals. So they're not going to sit there and stare at you, especially in middle Georgia.

I'm sitting here looking at this, and I immediately just racked around into my rifle.

It makes enough noise that if you were to do that for any normal, like a deer or something like that, they're going to run because it's a mechanical noise that shouldn't be there in the middle of the woods and they would just spook and run but this thing

just stood there staring at me like a hundred yards away

chest up

do not try me kind of stance

just staring right at me

I started walking back just a little bit and kind of keeping it in the scope.

And then eventually I dropped the rifle rifle down because I realized how stupid that was walking backwards. So I could have tripped easily.

So I turned around and started walking back towards the club, but I would turn back and look periodically.

It stayed in the road at least up until I made it to the turn going towards the cabin.

When I got to that turn,

I took off and ran.

I got back to the cabin, hopped in my truck, and hightailed it out of there.

That was the last time I went back to the club by myself.

I pulled over on the dirt road heading towards my buddy's house and crushed like two beers just sitting there.

Because I couldn't go back to my buddy's house with the story and have him thinking I'm some kind of like certifiable nut.

I hang out with all sorts of people around here that hunt.

If If I could say that sort of crazy stuff to somebody, I don't know. I don't want to be perceived as a nutjob.

I was seeing something that was not a person that appeared to be, if I'm going to call it what I'm seeing, more deer than person, but it's standing there like a person.

It wasn't standing there just kind of casually. It's standing there like, hey, get out of here.
This is not a place that you're supposed to be right now.

And

heeded his advice that night and got out of there as quick as i could

good granny man that was an unsettling one right there that made the hair on my back stand up i mean that's like when you have to clean out the bottom of the trash can shook up

You give you chicken skin. Oh my goodness.
I wonder what that cryptid was. And hey,

I'm going to tell you this right up front. That would never happen to me because a lot of my clients, you know, they hunt, which is cool, but no, not Ricky Lee Bagley.
I am one with nature.

I would not hurt a fly.

That's right, little guy. Come on up there.
I ain't going to hurt a hair on top of your head. Which gets me to wondering again.

I wonder what sign Malachi is. Huh.

Oh boy, I feel it. You're a Gemini.
Gemini.

All right, here is my feline Gemini horoscope for the week. Malachi, good news is you are about to create a masterpiece.
A masterpiece.

Bad news is it's going to be a dang hair ball in the middle of the rom-com aisle.

I feel that very strongly.

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All right, we're back, and that's a good thing because I am receiving some strong astrological interpretations. I can't explain it, all right? I'm gonna tell you that.

I can't explain it, but I'll be sitting here and it's like,

you know, like when you drink an icy too fast fast and you get like that brink, that's how they hit me. I got some right here.

Capricorn, the coming weeks are going to leave a lot to be desired, which means it's going to be exactly like the rest of your life.

Boy, I wish I had better news for you on that one, but I got to call it like I feel it. Aquarius, you are about to be involved in a minor car accident.
That's the bad news.

The good news, you about to have enough deer meat to last you through the entire winter.

Oh, God, folks, hold on. I'm getting something else.
I don't think this is a horoscope. It don't feel like a horoscope.

This one's got my nose burning. This is a mystical message.
It's a mystical message from Terry. It's about Terry.

Hold on.

He's near.

He is near

something.

He's,

I don't know, Malachi. I can't tell.
The cosmic transmission,

it's breaking up. It's not clear.
Oh, I'm going to need you to tune in next week to hear more. My celestial antenna, it's fried for today.
I'm so sorry. Terry, if you're there, don't go away.

Thanks for listening to Radio Reno and stay safe out there, stargazers. Terry, Terry, can you hear me? Is that you, Terry?

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