922. Andy, Tim Grover & DJ CTI: DC Residents Heckle Authorities At Checkpoint, Losing Brain Cells & Three WNBA Players Ejected After Sun-Sky Scrap

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What is up, guys?

It's Andy Prissela.

And this is the show for the realists.

Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society.

And welcome to motherfucking reality, guys.

Today,

we have Andy and DJ Cruz.

This is the motherfucking internet.

That's what we're going to do.

And then we got a plus one, too.

Mr.

Tim Grover.

What's up, man?

Everything is excellent.

I'm at one of my favorite places where we're my favorite human beings.

That's mutual.

Yeah.

That's mutual.

You guys don't know Tim is one of the greatest performance coaches ever, both mental and physical.

He has coached a number of

the legendary athletes that you guys know of.

Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan.

If you've seen The Last Dance, you've seen Tim.

He's in there.

Dwayne Wade.

I mean, all kinds of guys.

I think you've done some stuff with our buddy Bryce up there in Philadelphia.

Yeah, we've added a couple, you know, we've added Max Crosby from the Las Vegas Raiders.

Paul Studd.

Yes.

Stud.

Desks.

Yes.

Paul Skeens from the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Also, stud.

Yes.

The best of the best.

No.

That's who goes to Tim.

The best of the best.

And

I just so happen to be a very fortunate man to get to call Tim and have a good friendship with him, and he helps me out as well.

We help each other out.

That's what it's about.

What's awesome about

our relationship and the relationship with First Form and all the clients, it's never a one-way street.

It's never a one-way street.

That might be a lie.

He might be lying a little bit.

No, no,

not at all.

You know, I can call you for anything.

You know, you can call me for anything.

It's like I've always said, you know,

if I needed a car, I'd say, Andy, he'd send me anything.

Yeah, whatever I want.

I'd just say, pick one, and Lily, it would be at my door the next day.

No questions asked.

That's a fact.

Yeah.

But DJ wouldn't be driving it there.

They wouldn't make it.

I thought you said DJ was coming.

Yeah.

So what's been going on, man?

Everything is excellent, man.

Everything is excellent.

Taking care of my health, getting into some new ventures.

And, you know, I wanted to really expand this relationship that we have.

You cannot really find too many.

Everyone talks about being like-minded.

And there's very few individuals that are actually like-minded.

You know, what I think about us is

our minds are like beautifully haunted.

Yeah.

Oh, they're like,

there's a nice, yeah, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're beautifully haunted, but

we've gone through some stuff.

Yeah.

We've gone through some stuff, you know, and

I tell everybody, everybody talks about their dreams, all the other stuff.

It's just like

how you get to this point

is how you deal with your nightmares.

And both you and I have dealt

dealt with some nightmares.

Yeah, man.

And continue to deal with them.

Yeah.

You know, everybody, before you can daydream, before you can daydream, you got to deal with

the nightmares that visit you at night.

Yep.

Yep.

Dude, I was thinking about this.

You know,

when I first met Tim, you guys don't know the backstory.

We got a lot of new listeners.

I don't think I know how you guys met.

Yeah.

So, dude,

when my business, well, when our business,

around 2012, 13,

14, we started doing very well.

And it became like overwhelming to go from how hard we were struggling to how well we were doing.

And that sounds like a great thing, except.

When you don't know what the fuck you're doing, it's super hard.

And

I was having a really hard time relating to people, man.

Like, my whole life, I've been so competitive and wanted to win so bad.

And I just

feel, and I still feel this way.

Yeah, not wanting to still does.

Yeah.

It doesn't go away.

No, it's in your fucking blood, bro.

It doesn't go away.

And if you don't believe me, if you ever get a chance to come to headquarters,

just ask for pops.

Yeah.

I mean, everything here is a competition.

And it's like

when I was going through that time,

I didn't have anybody to fucking talk to, bro.

Like, I didn't have anybody that really understood how hungry and how bad and how

desperate I was

to win.

And when you talk to people and you're built like that, you feel fucking crazy, dude.

And then what happens is, is over the course of time, when you've spent years and years and years and years like that, you start to feel like you're the one that's totally fucked and everybody else is normal.

Because

just like a lot of people, I said on today's real talk, most people never really meet someone who is actually a top-level performer at anything.

They go their whole life and they never, ever, ever actually meet that person.

And

when you're wired that way, you feel the same way, but the other way.

You go your whole life and you don't meet anybody that thinks like you, that doesn't think you're crazy, that doesn't think you're fucked up, that doesn't think you're too intense.

And dude, it's a super lonely thing.

Super lonely.

And

I picked up this book

because you guys know I'm a big reader.

I picked up this book called Relentless.

I did not know Tim.

I had never met him.

I didn't know much about him.

I knew you coached Michael Jordan.

That's what I knew.

And I picked up the book.

I read the book and it changed my fucking life, dude.

I mean, the way the book categorizes achievement and achievers and their mentalities into basically, you know, four different categories.

I mean, there's three, but the fourth one is you're fucking irrelevant, right?

But You know, I read all this and I was like, oh, this makes sense.

Got it.

The guys, the guys who are doing shit are doing shit because they have this different quality about them and this different way of living.

And

that kind of gave me permission to like be me.

And it was super fucking important in my life.

And I said this the first time I had Tim on.

I always say this.

Dude, I was going through such a dark time at that time because, dude, when you feel like you're all alone like that, you start to think like, what the fuck is the point of this?

Like, I'm all alone.

i'm i'm crazy nobody sees what i'm going through nobody gets it everybody tells me i'm too intense or insane or you all these things and none of them are good and

when you start to like realize oh you're not the only one that makes you feel better but when you do feel like you're the only one you're like what the is the point of this like what what am i doing and um

You know, real talk, that book, that book, I say it and I tell everybody this.

I mean, that book saved my life.

I wouldn't sell that book for a hundred fucking million dollars that the original book that i might sell for a hundred but i wouldn't sell it i'll get you another one trust me yeah and i will bend it and i will bend all the pages i'll sweat on them do whatever you need to split on we'll split it all right but like dude it's it's just such a

it was such an important realization

in my life.

And then fast forward a year or two later,

we both were speaking at the original 10x.

Yes.

Standing next to each other, literally.

So I'm looking at, I'm like, oh, this is what happened.

So when I'm posting the book, or when I read the book, I posted it.

And he started getting all these tags and shit.

And the book started moving.

And

then, you know, a couple years later, we went to, we both got

hired to speak at 10x.

And he's standing like one row in front of me.

And I'm like, holy fuck, it's fucking Tim Grover.

And he looks back at me.

He's like, Andy, because he recognized me from social.

And then, dude, that's always a weird thing, too, like when you meet those people in person.

It wasn't weird when we met.

It was like we knew each other a whole lot.

Yes.

Instantly.

Yeah.

It was fucking cool, man.

And we've been friends since.

That was probably 2014 or 15.

Yeah.

Grants thing.

And the thing that you say, the reason the

like-minded individuals attract like-minded individuals.

You know, it's funny.

People that never pay the price are the ones that scream the loudest.

Yeah.

And the ones that pay the price are the ones that live in silence.

Yeah.

Because

when you scream, nobody hears you.

Literally, nobody's around to hear you.

Because

they don't understand.

I got this thing that I talk about and everything that you've gone through, everything that you're going through at the highest level,

people don't understand

when you go from everything you've worked towards and all of a sudden it just happens.

And there's a whole level that winning brings that people just don't understand because they've never been at that.

They've never been at that level.

All they see is all the ancillary things that come in your life.

Yes.

They just see the balloons, the confetti, the money, the cost.

They have literally no idea.

And I literally call it the trauma of winning.

Yeah.

Well, it's real shit.

I can tell you that.

Your life changes.

Yes.

I mean, the way people see you changes.

The way people treat you changes.

And usually

in a meaningful way, it's not that great.

You go from being a human being.

To being a solution to problems.

Yeah.

To being a resource.

Literally, everybody's pulling at you, they're literally pulling at you.

You become a resource for everything.

Need money, need product, need this, need that.

Can you help me with this?

Can you help me with that?

You literally become the resource, and then you're still trying to find some peace among yourself while everybody else is taking pieces and your peace from you.

Yeah,

dude, I still would

still rather be this way than be broke and irrelevant.

I mean, if you're trading boring shit.

No pressure.

Yeah.

No relevancy.

Fuck.

Dude, that's the truth.

No pressure, no relevancy.

That's it.

Everybody,

you go through all these pressure situations of building a life, building a business, business,

everything you want to become.

You don't want to be relevant.

And there's a lot of people that choose

not to be relevant.

There's no pressure in anybody's life critiquing and criticizing

everybody else.

You know what's interesting as you say that?

I'm sitting here thinking about like

that, whether you choose whichever path you choose, because it is a choice.

Whatever you end up getting,

like for me, like, okay, for someone who's never like,

acted on their ambitions or dreams, right?

That first day, that second day, that third day fucking kills them, dude.

It's totally out of like their routine, right?

They're used to like just cruising, no pressure, no big deal.

But then you take someone who's acclimated to the pressure and you try to make them sit on the fucking couch for a day, and it's equally as difficult.

People just don't believe that.

And it's crazy to think about, like,

I've been thinking, you know, I knew you were coming on.

I just kind of been thinking about

different aspects of winning that nobody really talks about.

And one of the things that nobody ever fucking talks about

is,

you know, that saying, like, it's, it's one thing to get to the top, it's another thing to stay there, right?

Like,

I started thinking about that.

And I always thought,

yeah,

but

you know, it's probably just, oh, that's probably something people say when they've won a lot.

And I started like breaking it down.

And what it really means, dude, and like what we really have to understand

is that

when you win, because we are all in a competition, whether it's business, whether it's personal, whether it's at your job, whether it's with yourself.

But at the end of the day,

the bar we set by winning is always going to be pursued by other people.

Okay.

Let's take business, for example.

We win.

We do good.

Our company wins.

We become the best in the industry.

Now we've set a new bar.

And that bar becomes the mark that everybody else is trying to surpass.

All right.

But here's the thing.

Most companies will look around and they will say, oh, well,

we're fucking this company.

We deserve to win.

No, you don't.

And you don't deserve to, you don't deserve anything.

Okay.

Because what happens is these companies come in and they win.

you know, let's say 20% more than that bar that you already set, which means that you have to exceed their target when they're trying to beat you.

So like if they're coming in at 20%, you got to come in at 22%.

And that 22%

is 22% above the best fucking effort you could have ever given in your entire life where you bled, you sweat, you cried, you stressed, you fucking went crazy.

And now you got to do more.

Still got to do more.

Bro.

And that's a game nobody talks about.

They don't understand that.

Like

that's why so many people cannot, they only have so much.

Now, there is people who perpetually win their whole lives, but they're so fucking rare because, dude, it's exhausting.

It is.

It's fucking exhausting.

Even if you're wired for it, even if you're built for it, it's, it's fucking exhausting, dude.

Like, you imagine setting the bar and then every year having to figure out how to fucking do better than that when that was your best.

And then you're only a year down the road.

It's not like you're 10 years down the road.

There's a big difference between me now and me 10 years ago, or me even four years ago.

But me last year, that's a little difference.

And you're expected to produce a big result.

And it's fucking hard, dude.

And that's something people don't understand because to be financially successful in life and to win, you have to win for a long time.

One year is not going to cut it.

No.

So it has to become who the fuck you are.

And a problem that I see, and I would like to hear your take on this.

The problem I see in society is like society has become so mediocre and so soft and so fucking weak that they take people who were built to win and create and become and set the bar for society and they make them think there's something fucking wrong with them.

They tell them they're crazy.

They tell them they work too hard.

They tell them they're out of balance.

Well, guess what, motherfuckers?

These are the people that create the world for you to live in.

You know what I'm saying?

So why not just let them fucking do their thing instead of criticizing them and say thank you for making the world a better place for me to to live in like these things nobody ever thinks about bro you know what i'm saying and dude when we think about like

like

the cost

to do that and live that way it's it's fucking substantial it's a real thing and it's interesting how Everybody around

thinks that they're going to live this big life, this crazy life.

You know, we got all these knuckleheads out here telling everybody they're going to be rich in a week.

And people just aren't prepared for the fucking journey, bro.

They're not built for it.

And I try to tell people that and they're like, you're discouraging me.

If that discourages you, bro, you don't have what it takes.

You got it.

That's it.

Because if you really had what it takes, nothing would discourage you.

I'm just trying to prepare people who aren't built for it to not waste their life in something that they're not.

Like, bro, I'm not playing in the NBA.

Like, I would appreciate it if Tim, if I went out and fucking tried to be in the NBA, if Tim pulled me aside and said, come here, this ain't for you.

Andy, my boy.

You know

how many of my clients that came through my facility when I was heavily involved in training, I would pull them aside and say, listen,

you're not good enough.

And they would not believe me.

I said, listen, I'm telling you the truth.

You are not good enough.

I said, you can make some money overseas.

You can make some money in the developmental league.

But I said, you are not.

And then somebody else would pull that individual and say, oh, Grover doesn't know what the fuck he's he's talking about.

And they would take them.

They'd go work out somewhere else.

They'd go train somewhere else.

10 years later, I'd run into them and they'll come up to me and say,

You're the only person that told me

the truth.

Yep.

You're the only person that told me the truth.

You know, it's going back to what you said.

Making it

to the top

is not the same as making it at the top.

Yeah.

Fuck, dude.

All right.

You've seen how many businesses,

how many athletes, how many individuals, they get to the top.

All right.

And now what you just said, the improvement from there

is

so difficult.

Look at your company.

Everybody tell, man, you guys got that, you got the best, you got the best products.

You got the best products.

You said, no,

we're going to make them even better.

Well, how do you improve on on the best?

How do you improve on the best?

Everybody, when you guys got into the energy space, what are you doing, man?

You guys are crazy.

No, you know, this is out of your wheelhouse.

You need to stay with us.

And you know what your answer is?

Watch me.

Yeah.

Well, we'll figure it the fuck out.

Yeah.

Watch because that's what people do.

That's what winners do.

They figure things out.

What society wants now, they want an easy job.

They want lots of free time and they want to make lots of money yeah that puzzle doesn't fit no it doesn't it it just it none of those pieces fit none of those pieces fit together they just don't dude i was sitting um i was sitting with my buddy uh zoltan uh you might be familiar with him he plays guitar for five finger death punch yes uh

he we were sitting in my house one night and i was going through a you know a challenging time and we were just talking we were talking a little bit about this because like dude, even after you like realize that you're built for it, you start, sometimes you're around enough people, you're like, fuck, this is, I am crazy.

You know, you start believing that there's something wrong with you again.

And I was going through one of those phases and he's like, bro, did you ever consider the fact that like

we need people in the world that fucking, that love the fucking war?

Like, we need people like you.

Like, there's nothing wrong with you, dude.

And I'm like,

you were sitting there.

Yeah, I was there.

I was like, I was there.

Fuck, that's, that's accurate.

Like, what am I doing trying to fucking calm my shit?

You're trying to fight who you're supposed to be.

Dude, that's what I'm saying.

And that struggle, that, that struggle is very common with ambitious people.

We have two kinds of people.

We have all these people, and you hear this all the time.

We got these people that haven't done shit.

They're not wired to do shit.

They think they're somebody that they aren't.

These are all the guys who read your book and say, well, I'm a fucking cleaner.

Yeah.

Right.

And

what do we say?

Yeah.

A cleaner never calls himself a cleaner.

Because, dude, that's the nature of success.

Like we, you know, oh,

how do you feel now that you've made it?

The fuck you talking about, bro?

Made what?

Yes.

That's what I'm talking about.

Like

the brownies, I made the brownies.

They were good.

You know, like, I just, we just don't think that way.

And,

you know, I think there's a very big problem with the world.

I think a lot of, because we, you know, obviously have a lot of people who are high achievers on the that listen to the show or want to be.

And one of the biggest problems, man, is that like we're constantly inundated with this weak fucking victim bullshit.

You know, you, you, you gotta, you gotta balance your day out or you have to do this or you gotta do this.

And, you know, you gotta have peace.

And motherfucker, I got fucking darkness and war and destruction in my fucking heart.

And if this were the 1400s, I'd be riding around on a horse cut motherfuckers heads off.

Okay.

But instead, lucky for society, I can do business.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, so we have to understand there are people that are built for this.

And if you're one of these people that's built for this,

when you consume all this fucking bullshit on the internet, it starts to fuck you up.

And you have to realize that that is written for everybody else.

That is not written for the people that change the motherfucking world.

That is written for your average dude who is stressed because

fucking he didn't cut the grass yet this week or whatever right like it's it's not for you and i think that's a big deal that like a lot of you guys who have ambitions and goals and dreams you have to realize

that will you up you need to stay the away from it

everybody that I've every client that I've ever worked with from a business standpoint

from an athletic standpoint, when you talk about cutting the grass and all, and see, this is how, why we relate so well.

Winners have this thing.

They need to finish.

They need to finish everything

that they started at the highest, highest level.

There's a thing, I must finish.

I must finish this.

And somebody says, man,

you can do this tomorrow.

We don't see tomorrow.

We don't see tomorrow.

We see the moment now.

We see the moment now.

And we know we have to finish and finish at the highest level because if we're fortunate enough to have tomorrow,

there's more things that need to be finished.

Yeah.

There are more things that need to be finished.

And that's why when people tell you you need to unwind, you need to relax.

We are the most uncomfortable when we are unwound.

Dude,

it's just like,

it's not a good feeling.

It is not a good feeling.

We relax

in ways that are special to us.

We release.

for a moment in ways that are unique to us, that the other society people just don't understand.

They don't understand, and a lot of times they don't approve either.

Yeah, well,

we're not looking for their approval because here's the thing.

If we're looking for their approval, we're them.

Yeah, no shit.

We're them.

All right.

And what it is, is

when you talk about all the information that everybody's inundated out there with,

when I look at those things,

that's entertainment for us.

It's literally entertainment.

And you're just like, well,

anytime there's a negative post, and I've never reacted to one.

I just laugh.

I just laugh.

Because here's the thing.

If you get emotional

about something that's said about you or you say about something or something that you post on your podcast on your different platforms, and people say you're fucking crazy, you're this,

you're right.

You just struck a nerve.

Yeah.

You just, you just, you just, you just struck.

And what happens when you

strike a nerve?

The first thing is for them to put up their defense shield because now what happens is they're so busy trying to expose you, they just got exposed.

They just got the mirror does not

lie.

The mirror, there's a reason from your, in your 75, in your 75 heart.

You say every single day, every single workout, take a picture of yourself.

Because that mirror does not

lie.

You lie,

but that mirror is not lying.

Nope.

Never does.

And how many times, going back on that, you know, and I know that you've had millions of people do that program.

How many fucking times have you started over?

Quite a few.

I've had a hard time this year, to be honest.

Yeah.

And I've been doing it for, well, look, it's called 75 fucking hard.

It's not, you don't get used to it because you have to push yourself to do it.

But if you're doing it right, if you're doing it right, you are pushing yourself to do it.

And it's not just easy, no matter who you are, but yeah, bro, lots of times.

And you don't get used to winning.

No.

Because there's always more.

There's always more.

There's all, there's all, there's always more.

You're like, yeah, you won that.

That's great.

That's great.

But what's next?

This always has

to be a next.

You know, we talk about, you know, I use this

analogy of not a lot.

Okay.

Hell is definitely a place.

It's a place.

Okay.

But hell is a place where you either stay

or you start.

We've all started in hell.

The winners decide not to to stay.

Most people love to stay.

And everybody thinks hell is just like this crazy place.

And hell is one of the most comfortable environments out there because that's where all your excuses live.

That's all the same people that, you know, you tell them that, oh, everything's going to be great.

Oh, you don't have to worry about it.

You don't have to, you don't have to worry, you don't have to worry about this.

They point fingers at

everybody else.

Everybody says, come on, come on, come on over here.

This is where it's comfortable.

This is where, where, you know,

we understand you.

You shouldn't have to work so hard.

don't you don't have to be successful.

You don't have to want you don't have to want it all.

And they're like, yeah, you know what?

That's great.

And it's constantly trying to pull you back.

It's constantly trying to pull you back.

But what we do is, and

every CEO, because

every company that's running a business and

that's public out there, they got investors.

They got people that have bought stock into it.

They bought the company and they're like, okay, yeah, we finished off this physical year and the stock price price is X.

Great.

We can't be here the same place next year.

So what do those individuals do?

They're like, oh man, we made it.

We made it.

We made it.

We made it.

We made it.

As soon as that year books close, what do they do?

They take that trip back to hell.

But they don't stay there.

They don't stay there.

But most people that run businesses into the ground or get to a certain level or athletes,

whatever it may be, individuals or so forth,

when they make that trip back to hell again, and people say, hey, man, you don't have to do that again.

You don't have to be, you don't have to work that hard.

Don't worry about those people.

Just relax, unwind.

Come on,

enjoy yourself and so forth.

And there's more people.

It's that tug of war.

There's more of those people tugging

at you.

And then you look at yourself and you're like, no,

I can't stay here.

I need to.

This is a place where I'm going to start, but I'm not going to stay here.

But then you look at your hands and, you know, you look at how bloody they are.

They got the calluses.

They got the blisters.

You look at yourself.

You look at yourself.

You look yourself in the face and you're like, man, people are like, I'm worn out.

I'm tired.

But everybody looks at those things as being ugly and you look at those things as being fucking beautiful.

Yeah, I do.

You're like, you look at them and being, there is nothing,

there is nothing more powerful than an individual that can heal their own wounds.

So when they see those wounds on themselves, they know they earned them.

And they said, the only way I can heal these things again

is I got to win again.

I have to win again.

And the winning is just not for me.

When you win,

all the people that listen to you on a regular basis, that like say, hey,

this is the person I want to listen to.

This is the person I want to follow because he's giving me the information straight.

Not only does he talk the talk,

but guess what?

He's got how many square footage of results and how many products of proof.

There's validation in that.

So

it's not only for us.

It's for those individuals.

We want to touch as many individuals.

We want to show them it's possible.

It's real.

But

there's a huge price that comes with it.

And that price continues to go up.

And at some point, people just don't want to pay that price anymore.

Man, it's facts.

Dude, one question before we get into the show show.

From your experience of dealing with the best performers on the planet

ever,

is it hate to lose or is it love to win?

It's neither.

What do you think it is?

It's neither.

You know what?

They hate to lose and they love to win.

But it's a combination of both.

See, what happens is when you think of hate to lose, you know, whether they hate to lose or they love to win, you're letting your emotions get in the way.

You're letting your emotions get in the way.

You're letting your emotion.

Man,

I hate to fucking lose.

All right.

Or when you win, you're like, yes,

I win.

Most individuals, being able to have control over that emotion, being able to have control of your thoughts, being able to have control of your actions, being able to have control of your emotions is what true winners are, what true winners are about.

People want to celebrate too early.

They want to celebrate too soon.

When you win,

when you win at the highest level, that's when you want to celebrate.

I was watching,

I think it was Wimbledon.

I was was watching Wimbledon, and

there was a match going on, and

the person had won the match, and I just

watched everybody's reaction

after the match.

And I just said, I said, the next match that person plays,

they're going to lose.

They're going to lose.

Because literally winning that match

was their celebration.

That was that confetti.

That was that confetti money.

That's where all their energy went.

That's where all their emotions went.

That's where all their thoughts went.

Not realizing, I'm not finished.

I'm not finished.

All right.

So

when people talk about, man, whether it's, you know,

hate to lose, or, you know,

I love to win, that means you're letting an emotional component get in.

And the only emotional component, the only thing that should ever affect your emotion

is when you do win.

Derek Jeter had this unbelievable thing.

I saw a post that come in and they asked him, what was

they asked him, what was his toughest years?

And he mentioned every single year,

he didn't win the World Series.

He goes,

those were my toughest years.

Not he didn't pick a moment.

He didn't pick this.

He didn't pick the.

He goes, I play to win.

He goes, I play

to win.

And when you play to win, you have control over your behavior.

You have control over your thoughts.

You have control over your emotions.

You have control over

your actions.

People celebrate

too soon.

Celebrate hard, but don't celebrate long.

But you have to, that celebration doesn't, every people want to celebrate.

If you win,

let's take, let's go back to tennis.

You have to win multiple matches in order to be considered the winner.

You got individuals celebrating every single

round one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's a big difference between enjoying the moment and a celebration.

Enjoy those wins, but save the celebration for the end.

Save the celebration for the end.

There's also like, there's almost like a, because I've seen like playing football, coaching football, you see people win.

I remember one time there was a game, like our kids won, and they're like doing front flips and stuff and cartwheels.

It's like, you know, the head coach, he's like, what do you guys, you guys are acting like you're surprised.

Like, this was expected.

Like, there's an expectation.

Like, what is, what is this?

Like, y'all act like y'all surprised that y'all won.

Like, no, like, there was a game plan here.

There was practices that we showed up to.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, it was all these pieces that went into this.

What are y'all acting like y'all surprised that we won?

I think that's a huge deal.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

I think

I know for me, I could win the world's biggest event today and not really even give a fuck.

I mean, I'd be glad I won.

For sure.

But you're not going to see me run around like a fucking weirdo.

Like, there'd be some fist bumps.

I expect to win.

I expect it.

That's my standard.

I expect to win.

You're not in this to lose.

No, but like, it's an expectation.

Yeah.

It's not fucking.

Having confidence in

this that you're winning.

It's an expectation.

It's not confidence.

It's not,

it's fucking, that is the minimal acceptable standard to me, period.

That's it.

And

when it comes to losing,

I feel like a hate-to-lose mentality is almost required

because it sets

the bar for what's acceptable.

You almost have to hate losing so much

that you are not willing to accept anything other than the win.

I agree with you, Andy, but only if you're wired, only if you're wired a certain way,

only you're wired a certain way, because a lot of individuals cannot handle hate.

They cannot handle

hate.

They just can't.

This goes back to what you said about the sensitivity meter.

All right.

How can you hate to lose

if your

sensitivity meter is

extremely volatile?

Everybody taught, you know, it's a great thing to say.

It's a great thing to say, man,

I hate to lose.

But when you do lose,

what do you do immediately next?

Well, you've got to be disciplined in the method.

Yeah.

You know, I can hate to lose

and still understand that me throwing some sort of fucking tantrum doesn't help.

Yeah.

Right.

Like, right.

Like, I understand, I hate to lose.

And that's the emotion.

That drives me back to work.

That's the emotion part.

I'm talking.

That's the emotion part I was talking about when people hate to people say that they hate to lose and they go out and they they release all these emotions.

They release all these emotions instead of, you know what?

Hey, you should pour that into the reps.

Exactly.

Right.

Exactly.

I love it.

No, I love it.

That's great, man.

Yeah.

Dude, losing and winning is like my favorite thing to talk about, and yours too.

Yeah.

Because

there's no in-between.

Yeah.

Listen, it's funny.

There was a story

that we read

of a general manager

of an NBA basketball team.

He's really big into analytics.

And I don't throw names out there.

That's not what I do.

All right.

He literally went up.

He was with another organization.

He literally went up to the

team had just lost a game.

Literally just lost a game in the playoffs.

He went up to the owner of the team, and he was a big analytics guy, and he showed the numbers.

He said, well,

if you look at the numbers, we actually won.

True story.

True story.

The score is the score.

It's funny.

Everybody wants the numbers,

The numbers in your bank account are the numbers in your bank account.

The numbers in your business are the numbers in your business.

The only place that people don't want to pay attention to the numbers

is when it's the score or when you weigh yourself.

Yeah, dude, it's such, that's such a huge, because like.

Data is such a huge part of business and winning.

It just is.

But there is nothing fucking worse than someone who uses data to justify lack of results.

They say, yeah, but

yeah, motherfucker, you see the fucking score?

That's the fucking number.

It doesn't matter all this shit.

Dude.

Dangerous word, but

dangerous word.

Dude, it's the worst.

It's like the moral victory.

You know, like, oh yeah, you know, well, all the data says we should.

We had some first downs.

Fuck.

That's our season high first down.

Let me ask you something.

Both of you guys, GJ.

What the hell is the definition of a moral victory?

There isn't one.

It's bullshit.

It's what losers tell themselves to feel better about losing.

It's the truth.

And it's become accepted in reality as some sort of like consolation prize.

There is no consolation prize.

There is and then there isn't.

You either won or you lost.

You did it or you didn't.

You either are or you aren't.

And that's the reality of life.

And

this fucking attitude that we've conditioned society to be like refuses to acknowledge the truth because they tell themselves these bridge stories, right?

Well, we almost made it, but we didn't.

That doesn't fucking matter.

You didn't make it.

You lost.

Like.

This misunderstanding, I think, costs people,

it costs more people

their dreams than anything else.

Like, no one gives a shit that you tried hard, bro.

Like, I'm sorry, that sounds mean.

I understand.

You're sweating, you're working, you're trying.

No one cares.

No one fucking cares.

They only care about that shit if you want.

If you want people to care about the struggle you went through, win.

That's it.

Oh, man.

Otherwise, they don't give a fuck.

That's real, man.

That's real.

Consolation prize.

That's the hammer right there.

Yeah,

moral victory.

Yeah, but, you know, we tried hard.

I feel good about myself for trying hard.

If fucking my aunt had fucking dicks, she'd be my uncle.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, I don't know what to tell you.

It's the fucking.

Anyway.

No, that's real, man.

You look at it.

We got on.

How often do I get on?

DJ.

Hey, man, where's your weight at?

What are you doing?

He's not responding.

All right.

Tim

hits me up personally, by the way, guys.

Yeah, personally.

Personally, I say, hey, man,

what the hell is going on?

I know he's holding himself accountable, but here's the thing.

Everybody who holds themselves accountable has somebody else who's also holding themselves accountable.

All right.

I have a direct line to Andrew.

Andrew has a direct line to me.

And I know if I'm fucking up,

I'm getting a text from him.

I know.

It might just say, and here's the thing: no, it won't be an explanation.

You know what it's going to say?

It's going to say, dude.

That's all it's going to say.

And I already know.

I already know what that meant.

There's no explanation needed.

There's no long sentence.

There isn't anything.

Dude.

Got it.

Same thing with his brother, Sal.

Yeah.

Same thing with him.

Obviously,

if you follow Sal, and if you're not, you should.

All right.

He was, I'm watching him raise his three beautiful kids.

And the one thing I text him, I see, you know, Enzo's in, he was in wrestling, and he's doing all these different things.

And

I said, listen, Sal, whatever you do, I said,

make sure

he has something

physical.

for the rest of his life

for the for the for the rep for the for the rest rest of his rest of his life and the girls are doing gymnastics and all

this other stuff because once you take care of the physical you feel so much better about yourself then you become then you as a mental individual you don't need long sentences to ex explain just a simple dude is gonna be like

i got it

i got i got i got it

it's simple it is it's simple people want to make things so freaking.

Bro, that's why I get so fucking annoyed talking about it sometimes, Tim.

It's like, this ain't fucking hard, bro.

And you said it so many times.

Yes, it's not.

You got to fucking do it.

All these people listen to all this bullshit by all these average motherfuckers looking for this secret that doesn't fucking exist.

And then the people who tell them the secret for a fucking decade get, you know, it's like,

dude, listen, I can promise you this.

None of these other motherfuckers that you listen to are going to tell you anything

that actually fucking gets you where you want to go, different than what I'm telling you.

That works.

That's it.

There's like three things that work.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, you have to do the shit.

You got to have an idea that fucking will work.

And you got to be relentless about it for fucking ever.

And, you know, everybody listens to all this garbage, like hoping it'll motivate them.

Bro, if your own life doesn't motivate you, then you ain't fucking making it.

If you can't look around at your life and say, damn, dude, I need to make a change.

You ain't got it.

It ain't going to work.

If you need to pumped up, be pumped up all the time and told how great you could be and this and that.

You ain't got it.

If you got to be fucking convinced to go and you got to have your hand held, you ain't got it.

If you got to fucking have every question answered by somebody who's an expert and you wait to do anything until your quote-unquote mentor gets back to you.

You don't have it.

You don't have it.

Everybody wants to be told what to do when you already know what to do.

It's so frucky.

It's fucking frustrating.

Yeah.

Hey, listen to Tony Vine.

How many times do you say this over and over again?

You can always tell.

Now, Andy's already got a lot of bass in his voice.

So does D.

And when he brings up this point,

it agitates and irritates him even more.

Because it's disrespectful to the people who have actually done things.

It's saying to this,

it's like sitting across from me,

and I know all the things I've had to go through.

I know all the fucking challenges, all the trials, all the tribulations, all the suicidal thoughts, all the bad, all of it, the fucking struggle, all of it, being misunderstood, being called names, being made fun of, being laughed at, all of it.

I know exactly what I've gone through to get to this point.

And when someone sits across from me and starts asking me questions about how to get around that, and

basically, you know, so-and-so said, this is the hack.

Well, so-and-so's broke.

They got a fucking podcast microphone and they make videos on the internet.

They're a content creator, okay?

We have to understand that when you sit across from someone who's paid that motherfucking price and you ask them what the shortcut is, they want to fucking choke you.

Okay.

Real talk.

Like, I want to reach across the table and rip your fucking Adam's apple out because you're disrespecting the work that and the struggle and the pain that I've had to go through.

And then you're, it's sort of insinuating,

you didn't really have to go through all that, did you?

You didn't really.

That's, that's kind of bullshit, isn't it?

Well, you just, that's just you.

I'm different.

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah.

And then, and then they think that there's some sort of entitlement because they get to skip the fucking fight.

Bro,

you're not even any good at what you do.

You haven't even started learning this yet.

What makes you think that you're, that's like going to the fucking NBA practice and standing on the sideline and like going out and shooting some fucking free throws and being, hey, LeBron,

give me the fucking secret, bro.

Like, you didn't really do all that work.

It can't be that hard.

It's just MJ, you didn't do all that fucking practice, bro.

Come on.

You didn't get up at three o'clock in the morning and do chest passes.

What's the real secret?

You know what I'm saying?

And it's like, dude,

like, I will fucking choke you.

You know what I'm saying?

How many times have both of you and everybody sitting in this room,

man?

What's the one thing?

I will stop right there.

What's the one?

What's the one thing?

Yeah.

What's your morning routine?

Yeah.

There is no one thing.

And the minute you tell them that, they're like, whoa.

What's the one thing?

Why did in the in my books, Relentless and Winning, I listed everything as one?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's all these things.

And then there's more.

When you were saying the hell analogy, if you really want to break that down further, you start out in hell every motherfucking morning, bro.

And you got to do everything you can to dig out by the end of the day.

And guess what?

When you wake up in the morning, you're going to be there again.

And that's the fucking, that's what success building is like.

Here's the one thing for you.

Yeah.

Every fucking day.

Here's the thing.

Everybody.

Here's the one thing.

It's going to fucking suck.

How about that?

No.

If you get, listen.

If you blessed

every single morning or night whenever you get up to open your eyes,

I do this every single day.

This is my morning routine.

It's for people that were like, oh, Grover, what you, I'm about to tell you right now.

If I'm blessed enough to have another day and I open my eyes

and I can put my feet on the ground,

the first thing I say is thank you.

And now the rest is up to me.

The rest is up to me.

The rest is up to you.

That's it.

Because one day,

one day,

I'm not going to have the opportunity to do either.

Yeah.

And the thing

that

you talk to the biggest achievers, and if you can get them to tell you the truth, not the stuff that everybody wants to hear, and that's the one thing about this, you will always hear,

you will get, you won't get what you want to hear.

You get what you need to hear.

All right.

It's always

on

you.

It's always going to be on you.

Once you wake up in that morning, every decision you make, every action you make, all those things is going to determine where everything is going to go.

There's been people that have woken up one morning and just said, I don't like the way I look anymore.

Total transformation.

People that wake up in the morning and says, I'm never drinking again.

Well,

I'm never going to do drugs.

I'm never going to do this.

They wake up and they say, I make that decision.

And what he says, and you think, like

Andrew just said, you think that's easy when they get up in the morning, that's hell?

All right.

I was a very heavy individual.

DJ

was a very heavy individual.

You don't think so, that heavy individual, every single morning when we get up, is standing right next to the bed and saying, hey, man, we want back.

Yeah, we want you, we want you back.

Why you got to go work out?

Go back into bed.

I stayed in a very nice hotel while I'm out here.

Man, that bed was comfortable.

Them sheets were nice.

All right.

I could have easily rolled over.

Got to go work out.

Got to get my workout in.

I have to do this.

I got to prepare.

I got some things.

I'm blessed.

I'm blessed to be asked to do this tremendous podcast.

I have to be prepared for it.

Because if I'm not prepared for it, the person that's sitting in that chair across from me,

he's going to have no issues exposing me.

Because I put myself in that position to be exposed.

You're not exposable.

Yeah, you're unexposable.

You're unexposable.

All right, let's talk about these fucking idiots going on in the world.

Let's get into it, guys.

It is cruising the internet.

We're going to do some cruising with Tim, man.

This is going to be exciting.

It's going to be exciting.

Let's get into it, guys.

Remember, as always.

Oh,

before we get cruising, Eddie, what car are we cruising in right now?

What did I drive today?

350.

350R.

I drove my Mustang 350R.

Yeah,

it's not the flashiest thing, but it's one of the most fun cars to drive ever.

Yeah.

So I love it.

I drive it a lot.

Yeah, you've been ripping it.

You've been fucking ripping it.

I like things.

I'm starting to like really like, you know, I've had the nice cars forever.

So now I'm starting to like

care way less about the

whatever the prestige, you know, and starting to like really enjoy getting better as a driver.

So I'm like getting more into like

raw race type cars that are manual transmission, you know, that I could practice driving in.

nice yeah that's your that's evolution that's growth that's change i still like all the other but like i i drive i try to drive a manual transmission car as much as possible because it takes a lifetime to master yes it does yeah and it's yes it's interesting yeah yes yes it does people that drive a commute manual they're like oh you know like i'm talking about driving it like a race car yeah i'm talking wheel-toe rug matches like these are things that are they take coordination

if by by that statement, you didn't figure that out,

yeah.

But yeah,

yeah, we got a quick commute, too.

Yeah, so yeah, man.

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Yeah.

Well, let's get into it, man.

Let's get into it.

I had a little intro here.

I thought this was interesting.

There was a typhoon that blew through Taiwan.

Did you guys see that or hear about that at all?

No.

Yeah, pretty bad typhoon going on that blew through it.

And

there's a website, I guess, you can go to.

It's like an in-depth weather calculator thing.

It's like the shows all the wind stuff.

And it's called windy.com.

And you can go there and check it out for yourselves.

I'm not trying to pull a leg here.

It's just real.

This is the typhoon that's hitting Taiwan.

Apparently.

So

Taiwan's getting fucked.

This is real, too.

This is not bullshit.

Grok verified it.

saying this windy.com map shows wind patterns from Typhoon Podal hitting southern Taiwan today, August 13th, 2025.

Purple areas indicate gusts exceeding 11 meters per second with swirls near Kiah Shang and Lanu.

The formation amusingly resembles male genitalia with Taiwan as the shaft.

Stay safe amid the storm.

So is that looking out of the left side mirror or the right side where it says objects may seem closer than they appear?

Yeah, it's like one of them.

I mean, it looks on par for the region.

I mean, it looks, yes.

That's what I was going to say.

And with that thing,

only one person is missing.

That's right.

That's right.

Oh, man.

Yeah, man.

I don't know.

Taiwan's actually not a bad-looking place, though.

But yeah, there's like 33

people been injured so far.

So, I mean, we'll stay up to date.

It's moving into China, so I'm sure it'll get a little bit smaller.

No pun intended.

You know what I'm saying?

But yeah, let's get into the cruise, man.

We got to check in on some stuff.

We got some stuff that's happening.

I want to do headline number one going into our

first set of headlines here.

Got to go back to D.C.

There's been some updates going on.

The crime thing is a big conversation right now across the country.

Crime rates happening everywhere.

And Trump did something crazy in D.C.

where he enacted the Federal Guard, National Guard.

We talked about this the last ETI.

There's been some updates.

Now you got D.C.

residents heckle authorities at checkpoint amid ramped up federal presence.

So, federal law enforcement officers in Washington were heckled Wednesday as tensions rise in the nation's capital over President Trump's move to take over the local police force.

A group of protesters near the 14th Street Northwest Corridor, where the agents established a vehicle checkpoint, shouted out or held up signs with phrases such as, Go home, fascists, and get off our streets.

There is a clip here.

Let's check this out.

Here's a real cross.

He has a badge.

He has his

sympathy out.

He has a name on his chest.

That's a real cop.

Fuck no.

Go home.

So it's like 15 people.

Yeah.

Right.

And now one of them looks like they do shit but complain.

Well, it's the same people, man.

It's the same people.

And it's like, you know, they're upset because the police, because crime is so bad there, the police are coming in to help put a stop to the crime.

It's like they're protesting to allow communities to continue to get devastated, is what it sounds like.

It's interesting, too, because I was watching on TV and it seems like both the left and the right are in favor of this in Washington, D.C.

Yeah, actual residents.

Yeah, well, even the liberal media was covering it, saying that, like, they thought it was a good idea because they live in Washington, D.C.

They know how bad it is.

Yeah, or you can't go to CVS and get deodorant because it's behind plexiglass.

It's like bullshit.

It's bad.

It's not just D.C.

Now, Tim, you're Chicago, right?

Yes.

How's Chicago right now?

What would you say the temp is in Chicago?

Well, the temperature, outside temperature, is very, it's very warm.

But the way the city, it's,

yeah, it's,

people already know.

Yeah.

People are, people are, people already know.

There's very people, very few people are happy with the situation that's going on.

I've been a lifer for Chicago, and for the first time, I've actually thought about,

yeah,

I might have had enough.

I just might have had enough.

Here's the thing.

For some reason,

I don't understand this.

Why people just cannot work together.

It's like point, counterpoint, point, counterpoint.

Everybody's just arguing.

Nothing's getting done.

Everybody's pointing fingers at the other individuals

instead of actually doing something

that can make

life better,

the streets, streets, everything for better for everyone, not just in Chicago and D.C.,

California, Florida,

whatever it may be, whatever it may be.

It's the first thing we got to do is

come together.

This is like, all right,

I'm watching this video now.

All right, so you got the people on the other side.

If something was going, if something happened to them in their house, who's the first people they're going to go?

Bro, if something happened right there, if someone drove down the street right there, like they do every

night in Chicago and started popping off gun rounds, they would look directly to the same people they're heckling and say, do something.

But that was nothing too hard, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

But, dude, those people have never been affected by actual violent crime.

They've never had, listen, you cannot behave that way

without

being ignorant to the effect that crime actually has on a family or an individual.

Go tell that to somebody whose loved one was killed by gun violence.

Correct.

And on top of that, dude,

for us to get together and be unified.

We would have to fucking come to an understanding that crime is bad.

Violence is bad.

And we've got literally gotten to a point where we have to come to an understanding to say that crime is bad.

Yeah, that's insane.

That's insane.

Yeah, dude.

Like, it's a bad thing to commit crimes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Look, dude, the reason these people act the way they do is because they have very, they have very sheltered upbringings.

Most of them come from upper middle class upbringings.

They don't come from the streets.

They don't, they've never dealt with crime.

They've never dealt with people that commit crime, that don't give two fucks about you and say, you know, oh, I have, I care about you.

They don't care about you, though.

That's the problem, right?

Like these people are so sheltered and that's what turns them into these idealists.

Like, you know, I understand that you want to see the good in everybody.

I understand that, you know, you want

everybody to kind of be able to survive.

And I understand all that, but you don't understand that.

Like you, the, the problem we have in this country is that there is a whole group of people who have had it too good for too long that don't understand what the real world is like.

Like in the real world, there are bad people and then there are good people.

And that works.

Just like there's winning and there's losing.

Yeah.

And those bad people, they're not exclusively black or white or Jewish or

from, you know, third world.

There's just bad people.

They're exclusively bad.

That's correct.

And we get played against each other for the benefit of other people to believe that, you know, this group is bad or that group is bad or this.

It's not, it's just not true.

It's not true.

And

the propaganda has been so strong for so long

that it's very hard for people to come together.

You know, it's

well, they intentionally make it too divisive.

And they intentionally do things.

Yeah, but dude, the thing is, there's no doubt that they intentionally stir it, but you have to have a willingness to compromise and have a conversation.

And

there's people on both sides, but I would primarily say the far left side that will, they will, they fucking hate you.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, that's what I was going to get to.

I mean, to that point, though, it's like, you know, they will intentionally do things to

trick you into believing or knowing what's the actual truth.

Like, this came out to like, you know, with the DC thing, it's like, you know, oh, you know, crime, violent crime has been at an all-time low.

It's going down.

It's like, well, and then they they get their face busted because, you know, the D.C.

police commander just got suspended, accused of changing crime statistics.

Who said that?

Who said that?

What was those guys' names?

Yeah.

What was that?

Randy.

Randy Coswella.

Why gotta be BJ?

I was talking about BJ.

It's because he likes to get blowjobs.

Come on.

But yeah, it's like, you know, so like this stuff like this comes out, you know, and it's like, yeah, like this dude was literally changing the statistics of the violent crime that was coming in.

So they were, so it's not just that they were not reporting it.

They were literally changing things in the counting.

You know, and it's like, but this guy's out here saying he protects and serves the community.

No, you don't.

That's him.

That's him.

That did it.

Yeah, this is him.

This is his name

is Michael Pulliam.

He's been placed on administrative leave, paid administrative leave, by the way.

And this got called out by the union, the police union.

They claim that the supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it appear that violent crime has fallen considerably.

And so it has not fallen at all.

It's increased,

is what they came to discover.

So it's getting,

it's like, what good is that doing?

What would be the purpose of it?

We reported that three years ago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Three motherfucking years ago we reported that.

And by the way, it's not just in D.C., it's in New York.

It's in fucking Chicago.

It's in Houston.

It's in St.

Louis.

It's in fucking L.A.

And we reported it.

Now it's five.

Three years ago we talked about this, bro.

Now it's like, oh, you're just a conspiracy theorist, racist.

You hate black people.

No, motherfucker.

I know math.

Yeah.

Like, that's fucking math.

Like,

this, this percentage does this amount of crime.

This is where the violence is.

It's very simple.

It's very simple.

And if we don't acknowledge the reality of data, then we cannot fix the problem, which is ultimately what the racism comes from.

How the fuck do you fix a problem?

Like, how do you, how can you say, I care about the black communities, but the, but the crime rate is something that it isn't?

Like, that's not, that's not where you start to fix problems.

Well, I mean, it's no shit.

It's just like you said, waking up in the mirror, bro.

The mirror don't lie.

We're stepping on the scale.

That's what I was about to say.

Like, I mean, yeah, you can call yourself skinny all you want, or you're, you're, you're healthy, or you step on the scale.

I think people are waking up to it, though.

Yeah.

I mean, I think people are realizing like, well, for sure.

Because I saw the polling for this Trump shit.

Yeah.

And when it first started happening, I was like, dude, they're going to go crazy because they're going to say he's enacting martial law and he's being tyrannical and this and that.

And then, you know, what we saw in the media was,

you know, both sides of the media were like, hey, I think it's a good idea that we maybe clean this shit up.

Well, that's the thing because you can't tell us that violent crime is at an all-time low when I can't walk down my street and go to dinner.

Yeah.

Like these two things, it can't be a square circle.

Like they don't make sense.

You know what I'm saying?

So it's like, I'm seeing this with my own eyes, and you're telling me that it's this.

It doesn't work.

Doesn't work, man.

Let's see what the chat got on this.

Math is racist, brosif.

That's real.

Um, Jillian Michaels.

Yeah, you got to keep the chaos so structure isn't allowed to form.

Correct.

That's real.

That's real.

Yeah, man.

Like I said, this DC situation.

Yeah, Jillian Michaels did call them out on CNN saying that they were blaming everything on white people and then saying that fucking, you know, for years they've been demonizing white people for everything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, it is white people.

I mean, it's the white devil.

I think we all know that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's a real thing, man.

So we'll keep you guys up to date with what's happening in DC.

We'll

stay on the temp gauge there.

But yeah, let's let us know down in the comments what you guys think.

With that being said, let's go cruise some of these comments.

We've got a couple of them here.

This first comment comes from Funky Moose Chops.

He says, Ironically enough, DJ did shout out the best mayonnaise brand.

Duke's been given my family heart problems since the 50s.

You like mayonnaise, bro?

Me, no.

Yeah, me neither.

See that?

Winners don't fucking eat mayonnaise.

Is that what it is?

I'm not a mayonnaise.

That's not even losers.

That's not even craft.

Is that what it is?

I've never, I've never.

Shit's nasty, isn't it?

Yeah.

Potato salad?

You've had potato salad you've got.

You've had turtle milk in a fucking gelatin form.

It's disgusting.

I don't understand it.

Somebody said mayonnaise makes your butt leak.

Yeah, well, I wouldn't know because I'm not a loser.

I don't eat.

All right, that's cool.

Next one is Ross Madden.

He says,

doing the show live is pretty sick.

What if DJ shows up late?

DJ ain't going to show up late.

That's right.

That's it.

Well,

Andy will probably show up.

That's what I said.

I didn't say AF won't show up late.

I said DJ will show up late.

All right.

We're asking his question.

We're asking his schedule.

Yes.

All right.

Good, DJ.

Thank you.

Yeah.

I'm glad we have that.

Listen, we'll keep that.

We know

that we're all to be seated.

And when

Andrew walks in, that's when it starts.

That's what it's right.

No, hey, listen.

If you on a trying to, man, this is a hobby.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, I got a job to do

right outside those walls.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's all good.

It's all good.

Yeah, we got another one.

Fault line.

What do you guys say?

I know you guys have some fucking shit you say.

Who?

Like, when I say it's going to be three, what do you say?

Is that what it is?

3:30.

So it's 30 minutes, Grace?

All right.

That's fair.

That's fair.

Listen, if he says three,

as long as the first number is three, if it's 359,

point three.

359, it's three.

That's three.

That is three.

It's three.

That's accurate.

That's black people.

That's three.

No.

It says fucking three.

That's it.

He didn't say three on the dot.

He said three.

Three.

And that's something.

Something.

That's right.

We got another one.

Fault Lion King.

This was a Spotify comment two days ago.

He says, solid eight months of bugging the hell out of the local gas station.

I'm pleased to say we now have every flavor of form energy drinks.

That orange is the tits.

Now, orange is definitely good.

Orange is pretty good.

What's your favorite?

Well, you already know your favorite.

What's your second favorite?

That's not fair.

What's your favorite thing?

That's not fair.

What's the favorite, DJ?

It's great.

Yeah.

See?

Hey, man, you're balling for that.

I mean, you know,

I knew what it was.

What's second favorite, though, for real?

Second favorite,

Scream of Freedom.

Bro, I don't know how people can't say Scream is number one.

Like, it's to me, it's a lot better than the rest.

Yeah.

I mean, it's good.

What do they call it?

What is this flavor anyway?

Scream of Freedom.

I know.

It's cherry.

I can't read it.

Oh, shit.

You're going to have to get some peepers, bro.

Toss them, Tim.

I can't toss them because I take them off.

I can't.

The

He ain't gonna be able to catch it, apparently.

So, cherry, lemon, blueberry

with eagle blood.

Extended out farther.

Yeah.

Dude, that just started for me.

My cousin, who's my optometrist, Dan, he's like, once you turn 40, you're going to have to get him.

And it's been like, I'm holding off.

But now it's like getting to the point where I can really tell.

You'll get there.

Fine line, baby.

Yep.

That's what it is.

Last one, I decided to bring an OG comment in.

By the way, thank you for that, dude.

Appreciate you guys that are demanding for these places to carry it.

They're going to be carrying it soon anyway because we're selling way more than we ever thought we would.

Thanks to you guys.

Great problems to have, man.

And then with Tim on the show, I have a comment from the last time you were on the show.

This was two years ago.

From W.B.

Willie.

Thank you, Tim Grover.

I read the entire book after learning about it on this podcast, and it truly, it is truly amazing work.

After reading it all the way through, I'm going to read it again because this work is so far above my understanding of greatness that I feel like I couldn't completely comprehend everything.

I know in order to do this right, I need to know everything or else I've got holes in my bolt.

Very grateful for all this valuable stuff.

That's one thing about your book, Relentless, bro, is you have to read it multiple times.

Dude, I think it's one of the most brilliant books ever written, real talk.

And the reason I believe that is because, dude, I read about once a year.

You know that.

Yes, I do.

And every time I'm in a different place, bro, it means something different.

It's a fucking work of art.

Yes, it means something different depending on where you are in your journey, where you are in your life,

what's going on.

And you know what?

I always say,

Relentless is about the mindset.

Winning is about the journey that very few will take and how to use that mindset in it.

Because it's people can get,

I have the mindset.

If you say you have the mindset, now let's see you put it to work

and let's see you win.

And it's exactly what you said.

Those words and those books mean different things to you in different stages of your life.

different places in your journey,

where you are

as an individual.

I know

you do a lot of reading.

You do a lot of reading.

But what you do is you always go back.

Like you said, you read that book once a year.

You go back to your foundation.

It's not about how much you read.

It's about how much you retain and what you do with that information.

You know, I used to tell

Kobe and I always had this guy.

Everyone says knowledge is power.

You know,

knowledge is power, but only if you act on it, if you put it to use.

That's where the power is.

That's what this podcast does.

It gives you the knowledge.

To get on the domestic terrorist list.

That's right.

Yeah.

That's right.

Have fun with your flight back home, Tim.

So,

what are you doing in St.

Louis?

Oh, Andy.

I need you to bend over, sir.

Hell, man.

That's that's real, man.

Uh, guys, dude, we do appreciate you for being real last fans, uh, as always.

Um, keep liking, keep commenting, keep subscribing.

Make sure you guys hit that bell notification to stay up to date with the latest drops from real AF.

And also, check down in the description below if you guys want to be a part of this live chat.

Um, that secret society there's a handshake.

There's a handshake we got to do.

We'll send our people, and um,

yeah, we'll check into it.

That's cool, man.

Seeing that young dude, yes, it is.

Doing it.

Yeah.

It's always good, man.

And you know what?

Listen, again,

thank you to everybody here.

It's always appreciated.

And, you know, Andrew and I have had discussions on doing more of this.

So don't be surprised if

we get invited, we get invited back

and continue to expand everybody's

idea of

what it really takes

to define your definition of success.

It's real.

That's real.

Let's keep cruising, shall we?

I thought for headline number two, you know, I thought we'd do a little something different with you guys.

I have a brand new segment for you guys.

Let's lose some brain sales, Tim Kroger.

Lose some brain sales.

Did I spell that right?

I don't think all that shit belong on the screen at the same time, man.

I mean, like, we're going to lose some.

Listen, there's no doubt.

we, everybody in this room, might kill you, bro.

We're about to lose some brain sales.

All right.

I'm just going to lose something.

Just, just, just putting it out there, right?

We got, I got some clips.

Um, this is from the official DJ's.

You're going to lose your job.

Yeah.

No, this is from DJ.

Well, you know,

I'm a big person talking about before you can add, you got to delete.

Well, this, this is, I got some videos here that are straight from DJ's algorithm.

Okay.

So buckle up.

All right.

And let's just see how this goes.

This should be called

the next 20 minutes of racism.

No, that comes from your algorithm.

Listen, I can't tell you.

I don't know what's.

I think I got to get a new phone because my algorithm, bro, is

wild.

So, yeah, let's just lose some brain cells together.

Check this out.

All right.

How are we feeling?

Did it work?

Did you lose some?

I did.

I feel like just about to get pissed.

You know what?

I gotta admit.

I know him.

Oh, man.

All right.

What the?

Yep.

Come on.

Everybody good?

We good?

Listen.

I think it worked.

Oh, we're not done yet.

I got more.

The only thing I can relate to that picture is I might have had that jacket at some point.

Yeah.

I think it looks like your old jacket.

That's about your size.

Fat guy in your little coat.

All right.

Well, it gets way worse.

So, uh, yeah,

what is going on?

I don't know.

You know, sometimes I choose not to ask questions, you know, and just let things be what they are.

It is what it is.

That guy moved into his first apartment ever and decided he's like, you know what I'm going to do now that I'm here?

I'm going to upload the baddest video ever made.

I'm going to let people see the real me.

That's right.

All right, let's keep moving.

We got another one.

Here we go.

Is that one of your clients?

Right, the agility.

Actually,

I think the gymnasium in first form.

I think you're going to host such an event.

You can host an event.

You know what?

People actually pay for that.

Oh, yeah.

I would pay to see that shit.

They think, I listen.

You got nothing?

I think the person next to that gentleman might be a lady.

People have, listen, people, people are into things, man.

If you have nothing to say, nice.

People are into things.

Listen, if they're happy and they're not hurting anybody, that's their, listen.

I don't understand it.

It's not for me to understand.

Mm-hmm.

But

that looks like a lady.

I got more.

Listen, we got some good ones here.

All right, let's check this next one out.

And DJ wants to know why his algorithm is all fucked up.

All right, here we go.

Parkour

She's in great shape to be able to do all that.

To be able to balance on a branch, barefoot, go for.

I feel like that's the final boss of like white liberal women.

That's like, oh, yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

She's the captain.

That's like it.

Yeah, that's it.

She's about to let out a scream.

That's the ultimate form, bro.

That's it.

Zean, what do you think?

Oh, man.

That's not what I was asking.

I got two more.

Okay, we're almost done here with the segment, I promise.

See, I'm

over here trying to explain to people winning how to win.

Some people just on a different, a different thing, man.

But you know what?

Here's what the crazy part.

To these people, that's their win.

That is their win.

I know.

How the fuck do you come up with something like this?

Somebody said the bitch eats meal from the jar.

Oh, yeah.

You know what?

It's those people don't understand us.

Well, it's like Kobe said.

I don't want to understand that.

We don't want, yeah.

We don't, you know, I just, but that's that's their, that's their win.

Like you said, the guy, the first one we saw, that might be his first apartment.

That's you, that's a huge, that's a huge, that's a huge win.

He celebrated with a costume party.

Yeah.

There you go.

Right.

Yeah.

And he had his friends.

Yeah.

Oh.

And

well, it's,

oh,

yeah.

And the crazy, Okay, but

you know what the huge wins are?

You know what the huge wins are?

All right.

They made it onto one of the world's top-rated podcasts.

They don't know it yet, though.

They don't know it yet.

All right.

They'll find out tomorrow.

They don't know it yet, man.

World is going to combat Benson.

Yeah.

DJ, yes.

Thank you.

I've been at this for five years.

Hey man.

Hey, you know,

here's some winning.

I got another one.

Yeah.

Okay.

This is okay.

P.O.V.

You're at your son's basketball game.

He makes a free throw and he does this.

I mean, you would do that.

You're the one that comes in here and talks about how you can can do the splits.

I can do a split, but

you can?

Yeah.

Right there, let's go.

No, I'm all right.

My pants.

Take them off.

You got drawers on?

Let's go.

I don't think ever in my life I would have ever imagined Tim Gover would tell me, take my pants off.

Yeah.

You said you can do this.

Well, you can.

I can't.

I can't.

It's verified.

But verified by who?

No.

Joe.

No.

Did he really do it?

Huh?

No.

Sort of?

It was half-assed.

It was half-ass.

It was acceptable.

Sounds like you've been caught.

It was diabetes gang initiation.

Doing a half-split with an ice cream cone.

That's good.

What would we do if this.

I thought that was a pretty respectable celebration.

It's a free throw.

I would say don't do that in public ever again.

No.

it's a free throw.

And like, literally, the coach and the, this is where

I, okay, I have a hard time with.

Why are you cheering for that bullshit?

I told you all the little three-pointers.

That's fucking seven.

Who's a coach?

Who's a coach?

The parents,

what do you think?

It's a team sport.

It's a team.

It's a team sport.

All right.

Winning requires a team

effort.

Why is people so, and this is why are people so,

you know, I didn't think about the word, but just like about

making it their moment instead of making it about everybody else's moment.

And you're included.

You're included.

You're included in that moment.

You know where that starts.

I know.

Yeah.

It starts with dudes running off the field, taking their shirts off and their shoulder pads and fucking acting like assholes.

And kids see it and they're like, oh, I'm going to do that.

I had

go off track a little bit.

I literally had somebody tell me about

a professional football player and said that

been in the league for a while.

And he said the only time

that he's ever been confronted by the coach where the coach

was his first first year in the league.

He goes after that, he goes, everything just,

and he wants to learn.

Yeah.

And he wants to be learned.

He wants to be coached.

He wants to be disciplined.

He wants to do the things.

He wants to get better.

He goes

once.

Well, I mean,

there's another side of that.

The other side is you're expected to be fucking great on your own.

No.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, I'm here to coach you and make you better, but

the onus is on you.

That's always, I've always wondered about that.

Like, because obviously, like, literally going to middle school, high school, right?

Like, there's coaching.

Like, you're really being coached.

The best of the best, you talk to Tom Brady,

talk to Michael.

Obviously, we can't talk to Kobe anymore.

But you look at these individuals and you look at their...

past coaches and they always ask you what's the common denominator among the greats and they all would say they were very coachable they they take the information they look and you're putting out information here okay you are literally these

for

millions of people you're there you are their coach you're you're literally giving them direction now what they do with that direction now that's not the only direction they get but

They're coming in here

to be coached, to become educated,

to become better.

They've opened up their minds.

They've opened up their hearts.

They've opened up their souls to be like, hey, listen, I genuinely want to get better.

I'm going to hold myself accountable.

And it's just like, well,

how do you prove people wrong?

How do you prove yourself right?

By improving.

By improving.

And

that's what these individuals want to do.

The one thing, the best of the best, you're coachable.

Yeah, because I realize I'm a fucking idiot.

Yeah.

You can't build what you guys have built.

Dude, I feel like an idiot.

Like most of the time, I feel stupid.

And

I think that's a common

trait amongst high achievers when they're in the mode.

of building.

Now,

when I walk out and got to do my thing.

You do your thing.

Yeah, I'm not thinking I'm an idiot.

No.

I'm thinking, like, dude, I'm going to fucking crush you.

Yeah.

You know, but the rest of the time, I'm like, all right, how do I get better?

What's the problem?

Where am I weak?

What do I got to do?

What do I need to learn?

How do I need to get better at this skill?

You know what I mean?

And you get that influence.

It's a dichotomy

that most people can't really understand or see because all they see is the performance.

Like they see somebody, like, let's take Conor McGregor, for example.

People would say, Conor McGregor is not humble.

And I would argue that you are wrong.

And I'll tell you why, because for him to get to the level that he is, he had to learn a whole bunch of shit.

And to learn a bunch of shit and become great,

you have to be coachable, which means you have to be humble.

All right.

So what you see as the product doesn't mean that that person is not humble.

And I believe that this is a big disconnect between

the average person and how they look at high achievement.

They see someone

who is passionate, excited, and understands, by the way, how to be a character in a product, which is part of his job.

Yes, it is.

And they see it and they say, and nobody does it better.

No, he's great at it.

And by the way, that's why he's been paid so well, because he understands, I am a character.

This is part of my job.

And he couldn't have got, he couldn't have even got that good at talking shit without learning from someone how to do it.

So I would argue that most of the people that people say that person is not humble because they're successful and they forgot where they came is actually some of the most humble people because they're coachable behind closed doors.

Now,

I've met him.

I know him personally.

We've done some work together.

One of the most giving individuals you'll ever meet.

But he doesn't publicize it all the time.

You know, you know, other individuals that every time they give,

it's for them.

Yeah.

It's for their moment.

It's not for those.

I'm telling you.

Listen, is he perfect?

No,

none of us are perfect.

But one of the things he did tell me,

he goes,

I won, but nobody

told me

what was coming along with winning.

What we started this podcast with.

Yeah.

That's real, man.

He's got to figure it out, bro.

Oh, yeah.

He's the only dude in the world that could put his fucking dick on the internet for the whole world to see and no one gives a fuck.

And still be okay.

I actually had one of those videos.

Yeah.

I'm like, we ain't won't go with it.

But yeah.

Yeah.

We lost some brain cells.

Again, that's why you have an algorithm on your phone.

I sent them.

See, the trick is, I send them to other people too.

So I mess up their algorithms.

Oh, my algorithms certainly messed.

Oh, don't give me that.

No, you send me the motherfucker.

That's because you sent them to me.

Then I see them in the algorithm, and then I'm like, oh, you get my like this.

And it came from him.

I sent Andy stuff.

He's like, I already seen this.

That's true.

I did get the weirdest suggestion in the world yesterday.

And it was this post of this whale jumping out of the water with like a boner.

And it said suggested for you.

And I'm like, is this where the fuck we're at now?

I'm getting suggested whale boner pits.

That's right.

That's right.

Like,

okay.

Good day to be alive.

I definitely did laugh when I saw it.

And we all have to laugh.

Yeah.

Got to.

I definitely laugh.

And I was curious.

We all have to laugh.

I'm going to ask Zuckerberg when i meet him who suggested this why do you think that i want to see an orcas penis

what's wrong with you whirl boner fetishes

all right um but yeah all right appreciate it i hope you guys like that let's uh let's keep the cruise moving we got one last headline here we got uh headline number three

um let's go to the sports arena

um this is a topic we've we've covered a few times on the show um because it's it's a new topic by the way just i'm gonna

if you've never seen andrew in a suit oh that's a good-looking dude.

I'm done.

I say we all look pretty good in suits.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

Nobody does it like you, though, bro.

Tim G's got the suit game.

I have an Asian and a personal stylist.

That person, they're the same.

Yeah.

Take care of this guy.

All right.

Oh, yeah.

Let's get to our third and final headline, guys.

Headline number three.

Headline number three reads.

Three WNBA players ejected after

Sun Sky scrap.

Yeah, let's talk about it.

I just want to talk about the fever.

That's it.

We only talk about the fever.

That's the only team.

The Sun's all right.

Sun's all right.

Sky's okay.

They're all right.

It's Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham.

That's it.

That's the fucking league.

That's the league.

Yeah.

That's true.

Well, let's talk about it because

it's been getting heat, and it ain't got Caitlin Clark or Sonny, Sophie involved.

But apparently, ejections now come in threes.

I think that was a pun they tried to do there.

Very dirty one, in my opinion.

A trio of WNBA players earned the boot Wednesday night following the altercation during the Suns' 71-62 home win over the sky.

Connecticut's Brea Harley and Chicago's Rebecca Allen each received ejections for starting the scuffle, while the sky's Ariel Atkins night ended early for being an escalator after shoving Hartley and touching a referee, according to the crew chief

Angelia, suffering as reported by ESPN.

The situation unfolded early in the second quarter when the Suns, Sanaya Rivers, and Hartley battled Allen for a rebound, which the former corralled.

Here's the clip.

Let's check it out.

But this action right here,

boom, there's a lot happening here.

A lot happening.

Grab my shirt.

I'm feeling the ground.

Gina Charles.

She didn't hit the court, though.

She out of bounds.

Ariel Atkins says some words to Bria, and she says, she grabbed me first.

Man, number 10 is a big one.

It's pretty big.

Damn.

Pretty big.

That's like Shaq.

Grab his stick and twist it.

Fucking Shaq Jr.

out there.

Yeah, so we got some.

We got some.

That was it.

That was it.

That was it.

They got ejected for that.

And there was ejections there.

Come on.

All right.

let the girls fight now i'm just saying ratties will go up i've seen a lot worse happen with no ejections yeah like that other thing like the assaults on on caitlin clark caitlin clark but let's talk about let's talk about the the because i mean again you you you've you've been around and and and got to uh see some of the greatest in basketball ever play right like how how much does emotions on the court i guess because i mean tempers get hot right like i get it pushing shoving but like all-out brawls have been happening it wasn't a brawl brawl.

I said they have been happening, right?

Maybe not that game for sure, but I mean, what's your take on that, Tim?

Listen, you know,

the individuals and the teams, like I said, that can control their emotions.

I always say this.

You know, coaches always say, man, play with emotion.

Well,

which emotion do you want me to play with?

You know, an emotion, your emotion that gets you going may be different than my emotion, may be different than Andrew's.

Everybody's got the different.

So when you say, you know,

play with emotion, all right, play with understand, play with understanding, control, control, control your emotion.

Because here's the thing.

As an opponent,

my job not only is to win the game, but also make you lose your emotion,

take you out of your game.

That's why a lot of athletes talk trash to each other to see who can, you know,

if they can take, if they can set up shop, if they can set up shop in their head.

All right.

Things are going to happen on the court.

MJ used to always say, MJ used to always say this.

He says, he goes, I know the opponent is going to do anything that they can to get me thrown out of the game.

There's videos of him, Lily,

pulling his fist back.

And there's that last putting it down because he knows if he throws that punch, punch,

they won.

Yeah, and then it's six games without him.

Right.

Is that how long the objections are?

Yeah, for fucking five.

Well,

back in that day, no.

But now, right now, yeah.

You throw a punch.

Listen,

part of winning, part of team

is

understanding

what your emotions are and figuring out how to control them you know listen

control your thoughts

you control your emotions you control your you can control your emotions you're literally going to control the outcome of

the game

i think you say it on something too that's like a big a big thing that i think people

I probably shouldn't even say this because

most people aren't equipped to do this effectively.

But the best, the best guys,

the best entrepreneurs, the best business leaders, the best fucking

athletes, they understand the game of distraction very well.

Very well.

They understand that when they say certain things or when they post certain things or when they do certain things, they understand what it does to the opponent.

And they're doing it intentionally.

And

that's something, you know, like

only like the top, top, top people understand that as part of their game.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Attack them physically, attack them mentally.

That's your point.

Yeah.

That's one of the listeners.

You find out, like, dude, when I find out that something annoys somebody that I want to beat, I will annoy the fuck out of you.

That's what you're supposed to do.

Yeah.

That's what you're supposed to do.

The only time someone can get into your head is when you're not there.

Dude, one of the best ways in today's world to beat your competition is legitimately to make them fucking hate you so bad that they can't concentrate on what the fuck they did.

What they're doing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Should that have been an ejection?

Should that have been an ejection?

No.

Bro, listen, if the WNBA wants to up viewership, fucking fight.

Oh.

I'm being dead serious, dude.

Like,

y'all can't fucking make all the buckets.

So, like,

you know, you can't dunk, you know, like some of you can, but, you know, and you want to get paid more money.

Well, pay more money means more eyeballs watching the sport.

Let them rip.

Yeah.

Throw some blows.

The biggest thing that happened in the NBA, WNBA this year was Sophie Cunningham fucking sticking up for Caitlin Clark.

Caitlin Clark.

And dude, what was that?

That was physicality.

You know what I'm saying?

Physicality works for eyeballs.

I'd be watching more games if there was more fights.

fights.

Would you, though?

I'd watch a game.

I'd watch one more game.

That's more than zero.

Yeah, man.

I don't know.

They got it.

They got it.

What, Madat?

You know, it's fucking true.

And listen, I will give the WM Bay some.

From a skill standpoint.

Yeah.

They're amazing.

Yeah.

Like dribbling, passing.

Footwork.

The footwork, passing.

It's absolutely.

If you are a young

basketball player

and you want to learn footwork, moving without the ball, being able to dribble, coming off of screens, shooting,

all this other stuff, watch

the WNBA.

Watch them.

That's a fair statement.

They're technically better players.

Yes.

And there are some NBA players that will admit it, that say, listen, I watch them religiously to watch how they, you know, therefore, because, you know, obviously

they're not as athletic as all NBA players.

Some WNBA players are more athletic than some of the

NBA players.

So their skill set has to be better.

Bro.

It just has to be.

And I will say this, too.

We talk a lot of shit because it's funny games and jokes, okay?

But here's the truth.

This is the truth.

All right.

it may not be as exciting to watch and the reason it's not as exciting to watch is because we don't recognize the names all right they're not there the but the main reason is because the game of men's basketball has evolved to like

people don't appreciate the fundamentals anymore.

They want to see the amazing shit.

They want to see a dude jump from the free, well, Michael started it from the free throw line to the fucking, you know, hoop.

They want to see all that shit.

and they want to see like dudes just dunking right on top of each other and just and you can't get that in the wmba and so people will say well it's not as exciting to watch but if you and it isn't because of that that's the reality but the framework of what's considered good basketball has changed over the last 30 years so Women aren't capable of doing that part of the game, which it's then considered to be inferior basketball.

But I can tell you this, dude.

I went to southwest Missouri State before it was Missouri State, and there was a girl there, and you're going to know who it is, Jackie Stiles, who was the greatest athlete that I've ever seen personally in my life.

And I've never seen anybody work harder either.

I've never seen somebody work harder or be better than her at her thing.

And,

you know, Caitlin Clark just passed her up on the sport.

But like, dude.

She would practice with the men.

And we had a sweet 16 men's team then.

She would practice with the men.

The men could not fucking touch her, dude.

So there's a lot of truth to that.

But at the end of the day,

eyeballs equal paychecks, and they're not getting them, and they got to figure out a way to get them.

That's real, man.

Guys jumping on this counter.

It's a fight.

It's a fight.

You go back to the thing that DJ had pulled up about the

kid doing the splits.

Yeah.

We don't know if they won the game, if they lost the game,

but that's, you know, people watch it.

People watch it because of the, because of the, because of the eyeball.

And that's what

social media does.

It's just like everybody posts that

one play that everybody goes, ooh,

they want that aha moment

instead of the end result.

You can have the aha moment and have the end result.

But most people, they stop at the aha moment.

That's real, man.

Guys, jumping on this conversation, let us know down in the comments what you guys think.

With that being said, let's get to our final segment of the show, guys.

As always, we have thumbs up.

We're dumb as fuck.

We bring a headline in, we talk about it, we vote on it.

It gets one of those two options.

And so, since we got Tim Grover

who loves winning, we have Andy, who also loves winning, but you love animals.

Thought we have a little bit of both here.

Winning and animals.

Winning and animals.

Okay.

So, our thumbs up or dumb as fuck headline reads: Texas boys' heartwarming moment with prize-winning goat at animal show goes viral.

This didn't come from like India or anything, did it?

Texas.

Texas.

Texas.

Not Indy.

Zshan.

Zhawn giving you some messed up licks, man.

Yeah, let's dive into this, man.

A bleed-taking duo.

A five-year-old boy in Texas has captured hearts after he was filmed joyfully

showering his prize-winning goat with hugs and kisses after placing fourth in a local animal show.

The Heartwarming video, which has garnered more than 6 million views on Instagram, shows Milo Garza beaming at his yellow ribbon before hugging his white and brown pet goat teddy bear and smothering him with love at the Capadres Cabritos Goat and Lamb Show in Kingsville on June 22nd.

Let's check this clip out.

As we zoom in on this goat showing in Kingsville, Texas, meet five-year-old Milo Garza staring at his yellow ribbon.

Just look at that face over the moon about winning fourth place, even kissing his little goat, teddy bear, and hugging him tightly.

We had to know the story behind this video.

Hello, goats.

Milo and his mom, Elizabeth, telling us how it all went down.

It turns out the whole Garza family loves goats.

We feed them

and we work them

and we walk them.

We give them water.

But Milo was actually filling in for his big brother.

So this was Milo's moment.

And he knew Teddy Bear was one special goat.

Milo, if you can just tell me what's one great thing about Teddy Bear?

His legs.

What about his legs?

They're fat.

Learning the secrets of goat showing.

From the new kid on the block.

His mom saying Milo's been working hard, and that moment captured on video the joy of competition for for a

yeah.

What we got for Lil Milo here.

You're going to celebrate fourth like that, you fucking loser?

Who are your parents?

I thought I'd get it before Timothy.

Find a new hobby.

You ain't got it, kid.

Fuck your goat.

Oh, come on, man.

That's cute.

It's cute.

It is.

Listen, you look the hard work that was put in.

Yeah.

The hard work, the love, the joy, the whole families,

everybody's involved in this thing.

And listen, he's happy.

He's got four, he's happy, one-fourth.

And then hopefully this drives him, you know, to get the goat or whatever it takes to move the goat up into third place, second place,

first plate.

What's it take, Zhan?

What's it take, bro?

What are the secrets?

Listening to the LAF.

Hey,

it's the same situation that we all have.

When you go lift, we all got to work on our legs.

Well, I love his legs.

Why do you love them?

Because they're fat.

We all have.

He's going to grow up.

You know what kind of girls he's going to like?

He's going to grow up going for those fucking

ones that pay your taxes.

Bro, that's cute, man.

Yeah.

You got to love.

Look, Z-Shot and I talk about this all the time, dude.

Goats?

Yeah, we do, actually.

No, we talk about this.

God favors people that take care of animals and treat animals good.

I believe that.

I've seen that over and over and over again in my life.

I believe that if you treat innocent creatures well, good things happen to you.

I just believe it.

And it's cool to see,

it's cool.

I don't know.

I like it.

It's cool.

Yeah, it's cool.

He's happy.

He loves his little goat.

The goat loves him.

It's all good.

And he's working.

He carries them, walks them.

Like you said,

it's a genuine thing.

He does, he does care.

The whole family cares.

Like, this is our thing.

You know, goats are our thing.

Listen, you started raising.

Ducks.

Yeah.

You know, and everybody's like, oh, dude, how, how weird is it?

That's weird.

And I'm like, bro, if you were around them, you'd understand.

They're like little people.

They're pretty cool.

Yeah.

They got little personalities like dogs, dude.

Your wife was telling us.

She's just like, yeah, they all have their own little personalities, male, female, that the other things.

And yeah, it's just like,

don't vilify something you don't understand, man.

There's a reason behind it.

You know, we all in here have lost.

Now, I can't speak for these guys here, but I know you, me, Sherry, DJ, I'm sure, have lost an animal that's been like, man, that pain does not.

No, it never goes away.

It doesn't go away.

I lost

what?

My dog.

And I say this.

My best friend.

Not my dog best friend.

My best friend.

Yeah.

And that shit hurts.

Yeah, man.

There we go.

And there's nothing you can say to someone who's going through it to make it any better.

It sucks.

It's like, I want to say, like, I was just reading online today, one of a guy I knew lost his dog.

And I wanted to, like, you can't, there's nothing you can say.

There's nothing you can say.

Yeah, like, it's just like, fuck, dude, that sucks.

I'm sorry.

Like, we all kind of know what that's like.

So, but yeah, I like this.

This thumbs up.

Thumbs up from Milo.

Yeah, this is a good little dude right here.

Two thumbs.

Now go get fucking better, Milo.

Yeah, next time it's first place.

We're eating your goat.

We're going to eat your fucking goat.

Yeah, that's real.

We're going to to have goat kebabs.

Well, guys, Andy, Tim, that's all I got.

Yeah.

Tim, great to see you, bro.

Thank you so much for coming in.

My pleasure, man.

Thank you for inviting me into your home, as always, man.

Like I said, I did a couple of videos in the locker room.

It's just,

this is not a place.

This is an experience, man.

And every time you guys

I come here,

the experience continues to get better and better.

And I cannot say

how proud I am of

the whole Forcella family and everybody that works here.

And

I know the next time I come, it's going to be even better.

And the next time I come,

it's even going to be better.

You guys have developed a standard here.

And I go around and check.

Listen, you don't know about this place.

It is freaking,

one, it's beautiful and it's freaking spotless.

It is

spotless.

I mean, it is.

Tim comes through with his white glove, man.

Oh, I do.

Listen, I walk through the bathrooms.

I don't tell people Tim's coming in, dude.

I look in.

I look at, see how engaged the employees are, everything in here, because, you know, sometimes when you come in and you're gone for a while,

everybody wants to see,

has the standard been raised?

Has the bar been elevated?

And every time I come in here,

I'm never disappointed.

I am never disappointed.

Thank you guys for treating me

as family, better than family.

And like I said,

this is a place, a very special place for me because I've seen it from where it was

to where it's gone.

And I've seen

the way you guys have evolved too.

I've seen DJ, you've grown into this individual.

Thanks, sir.

Andy, I continue to watch you, continue to watch you progress

through everything, through the trial, tribulations, everything goes on.

I've watched Sal and the family.

And just,

it's a joyous occasion to watch winners continue to win.

Well, wouldn't be here without you, bro.

That's real shit.

That is real shit.

So,

all right, guys.

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