877. Andy, Billy Gene & DJ CTI: Billy's 75HARD Journey, OpenAi & Kash Patel Annihilates Senator After Being Accused Of Weaponizing FBI

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What is up, guys?

It's Andy for selling.

This is the show for the realist, saying goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society.

And welcome to motherfucking reality, guys.

Today,

we have a very special

Andy and DJ cruise the internet cruise the dang internet darn internet darn internet darn internet

what is up bro hi how's it going good yeah good now uh before we get into it i'd like to remind you guys that we do have a fee for the show send me all your money that's the fee uh if you don't want to send me all your money the fee is very simple you could just share the show all right so uh If it makes you think, if it makes you laugh, it gives you a new perspective, which this show is for sure going to do, do us a favor.

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All right,

you said it was a special show, it is special because you're here.

Oh, yes, hearts, yes, yeah.

Um,

it is very special.

So, those of you who have listened to the MS CEO project will recognize one of my very good friends, uh, who has for the first time in six years blessed me with his presence here in St.

Louis.

Appreciate you having me, Mr.

Billy Gene.

What's happening, bro?

BEI, motherfuckers.

That's right.

I'm fucking outnumbered.

I'm fucking outnumbered now.

Shit.

Tell me about Jeffrey Waltz.

Hey, listen, bro.

Here's how it's going to work, though.

It's going to be me and you versus him.

That's a fucking that motherfucker's the racist over there.

So, what's happening, bro?

Man, it feels good to be here.

Like, you know,

it's been six years, and I'm honestly, actually, I want to capture this moment on camera because it's happening right now in real time.

I want to give proper flowers to you, you know, because six years when I came, we were having a beer at Billie Jean's, ironically.

A few,

a lot, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think we were celebrating my birthday or something, and we were just vibing and just had a bunch in common.

Like, oh, all boys private school, like, oh, me too, no, no, football, you know, like all of this, and then we were talking about vision.

And at the time, I don't know if you remember, it's like

you, you had, you had, you had vision, but like, you were in a good place.

It was, it was, you were, you were happy, like, things were good, but coming out here

and then seeing that you guys like it's

i'm inspired like it's if you if you haven't seen the office it's it's inspiring and what i like the most is and look i'm gonna be real with you i'm kind of in a weird spot where like i've been in this digital marketing game for like 10 15 years met every entrepreneur i ever wanted to meet and that whole quote about never meet your heroes or your whatever It's fucking true.

Yeah, man.

Most people are full of shit.

They're fake.

They want something.

Like, I don't want to start off on a bad note, but it's not.

No, no, no, bro.

That's why you and I have both moved out of that

It's just so like so it's so cool to come here and then see the culture and say everything that you actually talk about and stand for is here and The first hour I was here, I didn't even talk to you yet, so it wasn't like it was set up to put no I came in everything pristine you go into this motherfucking gym like it is a real thing all the numbers are aligned, etc.

Like everybody's doing their thing.

It's cool because big things are happening, but it doesn't feel like stuffy and corporate.

Like it's just, it's, it's all the things I saw, I think it was like shit, years ago at like, I don't know, some event you were speaking on stage and you talked about culture.

Yeah.

And like, you were going on about like, people want to know how I'm growing and scaling it.

Like, it's all about culture.

And then to experience it is there.

And then.

Other note, like, I come in, like, there's a slideshow of me on the thing.

The staff is really nice.

Everybody's very kind.

DJ is like, what's up?

We already felt like family.

Like, we were late in the show.

I was like, this, this feels good.

Like, it was just taken back.

I have a motherfuckers.

I got a locker.

A locker.

And it was, it was the attention to detail.

It was a picture of my grow up, my mother, my daughter.

It was,

my birthday was, it just happened.

It was happy belated birthday.

Then it was the birthday.

It was like, I was like to the point where I just started to get mad.

I got mad because I had to check myself.

I was like,

I'm going to have to go work.

I'm going to have to step my shit up.

Right.

And I don't do bad, but I love that feeling.

I like that feeling.

Like people, people talk about emotions and there's certain emotions that they just classify as bad or shitty.

One of those is jealousy.

I like to get jealous.

I like in here being like, oh, so you think you want something, Andy?

Okay.

Okay, you think, okay.

In a good, in a healthy community.

Yeah, for sure, bro.

Yeah.

Noted.

Like, now, brother, that's what drives something.

That's what drives people.

100%.

Yeah.

100%.

And that was with 75 heart.

Like, people are like, yo, you're doing a 75 heart again.

Like, do you want to get healthy?

I'm just like, I'm going to be real.

I just want to be better than you.

Yeah.

Like,

because people don't want to be honest.

Dude.

Like, no, I just miss, like, I've always worked out my whole life.

I fell off.

I just miss coming in and just being like what's up you know what's funny yeah bro i do and people don't

understand that like i my friend the people i'm friends with i can simultaneously be really good friends with them and still want to be better than them 100 and that's all love that's the motherfuckers i want to be around

because dude if you have a winning attitude the attitude that you really believe in yourself and you know that you're a competitor you want your friends to get better so that you get better you know what I'm saying?

So, like, I don't want to hang around motherfuckers that aren't competitive.

I want to be around people who, you know, I want to be around people doing better than me because I'm like, fuck, all right, I got it.

One way or the other or this or that.

It's not always like, you know, size your business.

It could be more fit.

It could be better at relationships.

Yeah, exactly.

It's 360.

Yeah, bro.

So it's like, it's just a different way of thinking.

And I think most people don't, they, you know, we hear this quote all the time on the internet, which I fucking hate.

What's wrong?

Comparison is the thief of joy.

No, bro.

Comparison is the source of all progress.

That's the truth.

That's a bar.

Yeah, bro.

And people don't fucking get it because they're uncomfortable with it.

I want to touch on what you said about that 360, though, is because, especially, like, when people will see yourself, see myself, they'll go, yeah, size of business, money.

And that's, that's this part of it.

That's right.

That's, that's this part of it.

And so, like, you know, I got friends who I tell us, I'm like, man, that motherfucker's a good ass dad.

But, you know, and I used pride of how I am with my daughter, but I'm like, oh, you did.

What?

What?

Okay, noted.

Like, you you know, or like.

We're going to the park right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to go play cards.

But like,

my boy, if my fucking boy Daniel, if you follow Rob Deardeck online, you know, so, you know, like, shout out to Rob.

Like, but.

Rob's a fucking genius, bro.

Oh, he's a, he's a real genius for sure.

So when he posts the way that he'll, like, spoil his wife or, you know, for like,

I'm like, damn, I got to show my girl's Instagram down.

Like, you can't go on Instagram today because I can't see.

You know what I'm saying?

I got to do more.

So I love it.

it it's it's winning in 360 bro it's funny that you said that because i've always admired that about rob too like rob goes over the top for his family

easter birthdays everything it's just top notch and it's suit it's it's so on brand for him because his energy is so good yeah like i've i've been around rob for a while and like

It's real shit.

Like what you see on TV, he's really like that in person, but even better.

And like that, and I, you know, speaking of, I don't think people give him the credit for how fucking smart he is in business.

Dude's a fucking genius.

We sat together at this dude.

This is years ago.

I don't know, maybe five years ago with my buddy Chris Harder.

And we sat next to each other for like an hour and a half.

And I forgot what we were talking about.

I just left there being like,

you know, you watch Robin Big or like whatever.

And it was just like, it's kind of silly, like, right?

Like, it's, it's immature in the same way that I am or you am.

We're fucking idiots.

Like, yeah, catch us at the right time.

Like, these are the dumbest guys ever.

That's a fact.

But then you have a real conversation, and you're like, oh, shit.

That's the first thing I thought.

I said, that's one of the smartest entrepreneurs I've talked to in a very long time.

And then I came here.

And what did I tell you?

I was like, look, the thing I said, man, is I have to commend you because this is hard.

Yeah.

To build this size of organization and to have all the things going, right?

Like, that's my whole life is going into businesses.

I've seen every company.

You can think of Fortune 500 small.

The difficulty level is insane.

Yeah.

And y'all are doing it.

It's impressive.

Well, I appreciate all that, bro.

And, you know, I'm all those sentiments to you, bro, because you've come a fucking long way way since we first met.

Appreciate you.

You know, we've been friends for probably close to a decade now.

How did you guys meet?

Dude, I think just through the entrepreneur space, we were both speaking and doing stuff.

In a small world, like you know everybody.

Yeah.

Like you go somewhere and you see the same people.

I'm very thankful for that time in my life, but I'm also thankful to not really be in that anymore because of what you said.

100%.

And I noticed you, you know, you pulled away too and just kind of, you know, it's just, dude, there's just too much bullshit.

You know what?

It's like, even my assistant now, like, I say no to every podcast every speaking you know why because i don't want to one i like staying at home in san diego playing tennis and my group right right like but two is

so many scams yeah oh man like yeah i like and not just in the speaker world but just business period like i remember like the bbb the very first time I was exposed to them was I got a letter and it was like, somebody said a bad review about you.

And I was like, what is this?

And it was like someone bought something for like 30 bucks.

I was like, told my team, I was like, just go refund it, like, make it right.

And I'll never forget this.

They sent a letter back and we responded to their, their claim or whatever.

And they're like, oh, in order to respond to this, you have to pay $60 a year.

Yeah.

So I said, oh, hold up, hold up.

What you're telling me is people can go in, travel to the hospital, say anything, and oh, you only let me reply if I pay you.

You know, my thing on canceling, people ask me this all the time.

They're like, how do you deal with all these fuckers coming after you?

It's very simple.

If I, I don't fucking care if it's not real.

If it's real and I fucked up, I'll say I'm sorry.

But if it's not, fuck them.

Fuck them.

Yeah, I don't care.

But yeah, man, it's just.

It's also fake life.

Like, it's like, it's like social media.

It's, it's fake.

It's literally like

if you turn it off, your life will change none.

Yeah.

Like it does.

You ever heard about the dead internet theory?

No.

So there's a theory.

I actually think there's a lot of truth to it.

That half the internet or more is just bots.

Well, there are a lot of bots.

There's a shoot to that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so when they

like all the propaganda that they pushed on twitter and when dorsey owned or uh what's his face uh jack dorsey jack dorsey owned it yeah

was pushed out by bots so they're they're they're curbing public really bad perception because of the bots yeah it's dude it's just we live in this a

it really is a matrix it's weird yeah yeah yeah yeah everyone's creating something yeah so dude You lost how much fucking weight recently?

It was like,

I think the total on 75 heart, I think it was like 47 pounds.

Yeah.

You crushed it.

It was fun.

I gained seven back fucking around the last week and a half for closer.

But

I texted Andy to let you guys know.

I said, you know, you do a lot of dope shit.

I said, I think this is the most important thing you've ever done in your life.

And I say that because

you guys are, look, I'm preaching to the choir, right?

We're here.

Everybody here is familiar with 75 heart understands the impacts.

But

to me,

I don't believe you can get anything in life

without obsession and unbalance.

Totally agree.

And I say because there's so many people who preach this

balance thing, and I just have come to the conclusion that balance is, right?

If I'm balancing, I'm trying to stay where I'm at.

That's what balance is used for.

If I climb to a mountain, right, you know,

you're staying where you're at there.

That's not to progress.

I think 75 Heart is

the truth of the true cost of what it takes to get what you want.

And so many people don't want to do it.

Even me, like I was like, oh, God.

Like for me, like, because I've done 75 Hard and had killer results with it the first time, too.

When I was thinking about doing it, I was doing it with my girl.

I was like, man, I'll be real with you.

I don't want to do it.

You know why?

Because I had to have an honest conversation with myself of, I don't feel like paying the price right now.

Yeah.

I don't, I don't feel like paying the price.

Like, that's the conversation people aren't having.

Like, listen, I don't want to pay.

Yeah.

No, I don't want to wake up twice.

I don't want to space.

I was mad as fuck.

And then I went to do it.

And my girl's like, make sure you space out the workouts three hours.

And it's been so long.

I was like, dude, is that a real thing?

So I texted Andy and I was like, yo, is that real?

I have to space out like three hours.

And he's, yeah.

And then I got more mad.

No, you said, no, you said you said, help me settle a bet.

And I'm like,

and then you're like, fucker.

Yeah.

And so then it was like, fuck, now this thing got really inconvenient, you know, because it's like, especially like playing sports forever, forever, it was like,

I just didn't want to go in the mood.

And it's, that's because of momentum.

But also, I believe in who gives a fuck what I feel like.

Like, what you didn't get where you are by doing all the shit you feel like.

Yeah, it's like, well, who cares?

Like, so, you know, then, you know, a week goes by, and now it's like, I'm in the groove.

How can I not?

You know, like, and you just realize, you know, the little bitch, as you say, like, is active in all of us.

And I think that's the thing.

There's not a single person here who's too strong or beyond that.

And I promise you, if it's not in the fitness space, there's some other other aspect of your life where you're being a little bitch you're in an argument with somebody but you won't uh put your ego aside and be the first person to call you're being a little bitch like you know there's something and that's what a lot of people see that they have it all the the one part that i've learned and this is like behind the scenes when you start being cool with everybody and i'm guilty of this too is it's like all right money's right okay cool i'm feeling myself i've been working out a little bit check but the one that's easy to hide relationships whether that be your parents your significant other your children that's the easiest one, especially when you guys see someone who typically classifies an alpha male, check on them because be like, yo, what's good with you?

What's good with your significant other, though?

Like, that's how it is.

And one of the greatest lessons I ever learned in business, and it's like, look, you can have it all for like a moment, but I was at this mastermind thing years ago, and they just sat around.

There's like six dudes and I just started going to go,

so which one's off?

I said, what?

Which one's off?

You know, is it health, money, or relationship?

Because one's always fucked.

And I was like that's ridiculous and i was like it's kind of real yeah it's kind of real like when you lean in it's like spinning plates bro you're like yeah like 100 like it's just the juggle and then you shift back over and then the other thing goes away and you realize oh that's the game yep that's just the game like so keep the plates spinning dude yeah keep spinning over here yeah over here

and that's all of us so yeah it was uh it was it was humbling to to to get back after it again it was disappointing to myself to realize i'm like i got really out of shape i was like i remember i was was like, I walked up my hill with the hill and I was like, yo, I should not be that tired.

Yeah.

And I'm used to like, you know, because in your brain, I go, I revert back to like the last version of me when I'm like, like, like football, like, or like years after I'm in my zone.

So I'm trying to do that.

And I'm like, yo, I'm kind of slow right now.

Like, yo, like, this is, this is crazy.

And so it's part of your identity, bro.

You see yourself as all these things.

You don't realize that, you know, comfort has started to like

erode the truth of what you actually are versus what you think you are.

You know what I'm saying?

It's comfort is, is very, it seduces, bro.

And it's like very, it's very good at it.

It's very gradual.

And, you know, it starts with, you know, one decision, you know, okay, today

I'll, you know, not work out today and I'll do it twice tomorrow or shit like that, right?

And then before you know it, dude, you're looking around and you're like, wait, this isn't what the fuck I am.

I don't look anything like what I want to.

I'm not who I am.

No, and then it slaps you in the face, and you realize the worst part.

Yeah, bro.

My old, my old me was like always rationalizing how easy it is to get it back.

Yeah.

So I just keep putting it off, you know.

And then I had to look at a point like, Billy, what are you doing?

You're fat as fuck right now.

And I like, I yelled at my friends.

I was like, yo, I'm mad at you guys because you guys should have called me and said, you're fat as fuck right now.

Yeah.

And in those words.

Yeah.

Now I know.

Hey, bud.

Yeah.

You maybe shouldn't work out of the hey, chip.

No.

Yeah.

Nigga, what the fuck are you doing?

You're fat as fuck right now.

What the fuck are you doing?

What are you talking about?

You're fat as fuck right now.

Yeah.

Like,

give me that.

You know, that's what I needed.

That's real friendship.

Like, that's real friendship.

You know, like, and so even like, even like between 75 hard, and then I was teaching class, my students are like, yo, every week I saw you, you were dropping.

He's like, this week you didn't.

And I was like, thank you.

Yeah.

Appreciate you.

I was like, okay, like, bro, you remember.

Appreciate you.

You remember when I was fat as fuck?

Yeah.

Like, dude, I was pissed at everybody too.

I'm like, what the fuck, guys?

Like, I will certainly call you fat.

Call that to me, too.

Fuck, man.

But yeah, dude, you know,

it's cool to have you here, man.

And it's really cool to see you

kicking ass and doing it.

What do you, so you're, you're getting heavy into the AI shit now?

I mean, that's, that's pretty much all you're doing, right?

Obsessed.

Yeah.

So, like, I'm like very, uh, I'm a gamer, right?

So, like, and I always have been like my whole life.

And so, and I'm also also a video guy, right?

I make videos around it.

You guys probably see my ads before, et cetera.

Like, I'm obsessed.

I get like psycho about things.

So, when December 20, 2022, when ChatGPT, we'll call it democratized, meaning AI has been around for decades, but when all of us got, you know, access to it, I'll never forget.

I was sitting with my boy, shout out to Mike Garcy, you know, Mike RC.

Yeah.

And he's like, we went to basketball game.

He's like, hey, man.

Like, what do you think about the ChatGPT thing?

And I'm so used to marketing things coming and going because I'm always pitch with them.

Right.

And I'm like, another thing.

So my first reaction was, eh.

And then he's like, just trust me.

And he's like, watch me write a rap song for you.

And this is like, now everyone's used to Chat GPT doing that.

But this was like right in the beginning.

And I was like, okay, do it.

And it did in like two seconds.

That day, I probably didn't sleep for three months.

And I think I spent 50 to 75 grand hiring AI consultants, everything you can think of.

I put on an event.

The first thing I did, I was put on an event.

I told my people, I said, this is going to be the biggest thing since the internet, Facebook, social media, everything, AI's there.

People were like, you're just fear-mongering.

You're just right away.

And I was like, y'all, this is it.

I said, I'm paying these experts.

I'm going to go live with them on Zoom.

You can join in.

I said, I'm coming in learning just like y'all.

You can come in.

And I did like the biggest online AI event at the time, which was, I think we had like three or 4,000 people, but nobody was, you know, doing it.

And so to the point where we were riding that momentum, I'm learning a bunch.

I'm putting out content.

here's what I'm learning, etc.

And then I knew I was on to something because then Procter and Gamble reached out: Hey, can you come teach our offices in this country?

And I'm like, Now I'm doing these calls, and I'm so seeing how it works at the big companies.

Okay, how do we implement this?

And I'm just going down this rabbit hole.

And yo,

I'll sum it up like this:

doing

actually,

I'll bring this even deeper, and then we can kind of talk about it.

People like you, people like me, people like you,

I think we're in for a rude awakening.

And here's what I mean.

Your brand, your show is all about doing the hard work.

Me too.

I'm like, fuck it, like, do it.

I get it.

I think we're coming to the first time where

hard work isn't going to be celebrated.

So people don't need a hard man anymore.

Here's what I mean.

My daughter's nine.

Think about how she's growing up.

She presses a button, food shows up.

She presses a button, clothes show up.

She's in school.

Everything is done on the computer, like book reports, there's spark notes.

You know, remember when we first got the TI-83 calculator, did all the fancy stuff?

You can see that.

Yeah, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's right.

Right?

Boobies.

Before that, y'all had like the beans on the

slidey app.

For me, yeah.

So, like, now my daughter's growing up with all of that.

And I just said to myself the other day, because she's running the mile this week.

So I was running with her.

She was just like, I was like, sweetheart, she was just being a baby.

And I was like, I love you.

We're going to practice this together.

And then it just hit me.

I just said, you know what's the truth?

She may never need to work hard.

And I believe AI is so powerful that in the next decade,

it's so much smarter and it does things so much better than us.

It will be weird that a human does it.

She's never going to have to work hard, which is fucking crazy.

And it hurts my soul.

It hurts my soul.

But I mean that.

Like, think about you guys, since you, everybody watching, like, since you've been using Chat GPT, be real shit got easier right like you're like you need to write an email you're like let me put this chat gpt like i think it depends on how you look at it i think i think

i think so where i came first of all like

i was a hundred percent against it because

i think there's an ethical responsibility to provide income for people yes and

So I was like, fuck, I didn't even look at the thing.

I was like, I'm not fucking looking at this shit.

Fuck that.

I seen iRobot.

Fuck it.

yeah yeah yeah well

right

and bro for years i was trying to warn people i was like listen dude this is you guys should reject this

and then i figured out after you know it it's coming no matter what yeah there's no stopping it yeah

and so at first i was like we're not gonna nobody's gonna have jobs that's what i thought at first and then i thought

Then I started like kind of looking into it and learning.

And I started realizing I'm like, I see it as like a weapon.

Okay.

Like

if you, yeah, if you're like equipping yourself with the proper weapons, you're going to be able to move much better.

100%.

And so I think people who start to understand how to utilize it properly as an employee

and

exponentially increase their output are going to be extremely valuable.

Yes.

And then there's going to be people who, you know, make videos of their cats and shit, right?

And those people are going to get fired.

Yep.

And then I think from a company standpoint,

instead of looking at it like, oh, we could fire everybody and run the company, the good companies are going to say, well, we could scale 10 times bigger with the same amount of people.

Yes.

Right.

But in terms of like performance as a human and working hard,

I think to even you know the nature of using it, you have to be intelligent, which requires studying, right?

You can't, if you don't have like like somebody like you or me we're at a tremendous advantage with it because of the real world experience that we have for sure like if you take someone who's straight off the street they don't even they can't understand the concepts of an ecosystem or how a project should flow or they get like and dude you could watch every video from every fucking online nerd and they can talk about it but unless you've actually done it or built it you really don't get it it sounds confusing 100 yeah but that's i think that is so i'm 100 same pick but what i think though, dude, I think there's another element to this.

Like, I think, okay, so what's going to happen is

we're going to have a situation where a lot of people don't have the same obligations in terms of work that they have to do, which means they're going to have free time.

Yeah.

And I think it also,

when we think about it, the more

technology-driven society is, the more lonely people are.

Yes.

So,

more time,

more loneliness equals a desire for some sort of other mission plus community.

So

what I, I think where the companies and the people are going to go, I really think it's going to,

if, because dude, it's going to take people businesses figuring this out, but

when, when you provide a community that improves, you know, fitness or work ethic, because you have to be smart to fucking do this shit.

I think you're still going to have to work hard, but I think it's in a different way than what we're using.

I think what you said is huge.

The work smarter, not harder, is the realest thing ever.

Yeah, right.

Like, but like, bro, you're still going to want to be a fat fuck.

That takes hard work.

You know, you're still going to want to be a well-rounded human being.

That takes work.

You're still going to need to consume.

Like, I think also, like, companies that produce where it's really going to fuck people is straight up info people.

Like,

if you could, if you make a cpg product or anything that people consume food any of that shit you're going to always have business alcohol weed you're going to be able to make money but and probably more money because people are going to have more time but um

you know it's just going to be it's just going to be a different thing happens question to you what happens when

it takes one person to do the job that's currently being done by 10 people

well that means nine people aren't gonna have a fucking job And that is what the problem with that is, ideally, it sounds good until you, you know, go macro

e-comm and you realize, oh shit, that's most people in the country.

That's most of your customers.

Yeah, the most of your customers.

So most people in the country

just started checks.

And that's where I go.

Well, and that's bro, that's where we get into like, we have to be very careful about avoiding communism because that's a, that's a very open gateway.

Can we?

Yeah, I think we can.

You know, like, is capitalism going to die?

I don't know.

It's a good discussion.

Like, fuck.

I don't think, I think it will change.

I don't think it'll be.

That's fair.

You know, like, there's still very wealthy individuals in China.

Yeah.

Right.

Some of the wealthiest people are in China.

I think what it's going to do more so, and this is not a good thing.

And this is.

But if you're willing to work hard, it's going to be good for you.

But it's going to reduce for, okay, for people who are ambitious and have goals and have drives and have dreams and they want to fucking do things, it's going to be easier than ever for them to win.

Facts.

Because they're going to have the weapons to win.

They're going to have more opportunity because more people are not going to try.

So there's less competition.

Because, dude, if you take, because when we look at like the way our economic system is set up, it's set up on leverage of debt onto the individual.

Go to school, get a degree, get in debt.

Now you have to fucking work.

Okay.

So that's powerful.

Yeah.

And people don't really

think of it like that.

They just think of it as the way it is.

But if you remove that leverage off of people, what will they do?

We don't know yet.

Unfortunately, that's where we do know because historically, humans choose lazy.

Yeah, but like, but bro, like those people

eventually, you know, like, look, man.

It's what they want.

It's what the fuck they want.

That's why they let it out in the open.

I have a question.

What do you think about this?

So

from a management standpoint,

what I have learned from, you know, seeing different companies and even experiencing it in mine, it's like, I don't think most people actually desire what you or I may desire.

I think most people desire to

just chill.

Why is that?

It's a good question.

I don't know.

Well,

I think it's because they've given up on the idea that it's even possible.

They don't even know it's possible.

I think most people are bred culturally into believing that success is for other people, not for them.

I agree.

And that

it's some sort of mystical thing that happens to some people and doesn't happen to other people, which I thought that too, dude, until I figured out that it was just math.

It's just doing shit.

One plus one equals fucking two.

On top of that, though, when you demean success and you make it be this bad, scary thing.

So not only are you not seeing it, but now it's a moral high ground to not have it.

If you got money, you're greedy.

Greedy people are about that.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

So you add that on top of it.

It's terrible.

I think the AI thing,

I don't think if we leave it up to the people to try to regulate this shit, it'll never happen because the consumer has changed completely.

Well, they are going to make, here's what I think.

Government has to regulate this.

Yeah.

And I think they're going to.

And here's why I think

because

it's going to put lawyers out of business.

All right.

And lawyers are the government, and they fucking look out for their own.

And so once these motherfuckers up in Washington figure out what's going to happen to their trade, it's going to be, I think they're going to try to lock it the fuck down.

But dude, I don't think they can.

It's like trying to, it's like Napster, right?

When they shut down Napster for a little bit and then

Spotify,

it's so far gone.

I don't even know.

But dude, I think it's just going to expose.

who has ambition and who doesn't.

And I think for the message that you and I, you know, because we're both, we've both been very big in the personal development space for a long time.

I think

people will always have ambition.

I think there's certain people who will always desire to win.

I think most people, dude, most of the people that I'm around want to win, but don't know how to win or don't believe they can.

I think you have that, but I think there's also this majority of people, I don't know, majority, a lot of people who

don't view it like that.

One, they don't know.

They don't view it like that.

They go, yo, I've been struggling for so much of my life.

And this is their story.

Who cares about the reality?

This is what they're thinking.

You know, my parents weren't together.

I've been paycheck to paycheck.

Everybody I knew is paycheck to paycheck.

And now the government is offering me a check where I don't have to worry about rent.

I don't have to do any of that.

And I can just live and get a stipend.

It's hard to imagine

denying it, right?

Yeah, it's welfare.

Yeah.

Take it.

Yeah.

Like, you know, but now it's going to be the first time where right or left, it's like a joint conversation because it's coming for everybody's job.

Yeah.

Right.

And so I really do worry about like,

is it a, if you can't beat them, join them kind of attitude for the masses, right?

Like, and I, and I don't like that idea.

It's, it's, it's anti

normal to me and what I've seen and what I've seen lead to success, but it's just like.

Fuck, I don't know.

Well, I also think, dude, like, you know,

you don't have to work.

No, I don't have to to work.

Okay.

And what would your life be if you didn't?

You would lack purpose.

You would lack fulfillment.

You would be depressed.

See, we get that

being here.

But, bro, anybody listening to be like, no, right.

Yeah, but

they get it too.

They just don't understand that they have it.

Like, dude, go to Walmart, go to fucking shopping centers and watch people.

They're fucking miserable, bro.

They have no purpose.

They are very cynical about their existence.

True.

They are generally very negative.

Hey, how's it going?

Oh, fucking live in the dream, you know, like,

yeah, bro.

It's just, it's, and it comes from no purpose.

Like, there's no purpose in a lot of these jobs anyway.

Like, they show up, yeah, they

and type some shit out, and then they go home.

Okay, I'm gonna tell you something you're gonna hate, yeah, because this is this is a dark side of where I think the world, this is what I'm betting on, and I don't like it.

Hopefully, we can change it, but I want to discuss it.

So, let's go to this position, which

I am pretty sure, because I don't know how it cannot happen, where either things, the costs for things are subsidized by the government, because I don't know how anyone can afford anything, or you're getting checks.

Okay.

Now that happens.

Now, what you said is a real thing.

People do need to feel purpose, et cetera.

Now we're also in the era where gaming is bigger than everything.

Grand Theft Auto trailer for the new one just came out.

It's the biggest media.

Oh, it's the biggest thing in media ever, in history, entertainment ever.

We're going to start our own server, bro.

Fuck yeah.

So people really get a kick out of living through their avatars.

So what I fear is people go, you know what?

It's just a feeling that I'm chasing anyway.

So if I have rant covered, et cetera, and now I can feel purpose inside of my fake world, there it is, because watch how easy it is to clone and live a fake person.

So I worry.

If this is going to be blinded, like well, that's where we get into where this is a stop and start.

Because like right now, dude.

Well, dude, and that's why like right now we have this situation.

Like, where's the legality?

What, what, I mean, do you

do you not own your own IP?

Right.

So that's what goes to what you said, where the attorney that goes all in on AI and says, I'm going to be this practice, they're going to be rich as fuck.

They're going to kill it.

They're going to be the hard worker.

And then the other ones are going to be like, I went to six years.

I'm $300,000 in debt.

Like, I've been doing all of this.

Just give me the stipend.

Yeah.

Well, dude, that's assuming that the stipend is livable.

Right.

Yeah.

Now that's a good point.

Now that's a good point.

Like if it's welfare level, you're not going to remove the ambition.

You know, because like that's touche.

Yeah, dude,

I think it's going to come down to the basic human.

I always like break it down in natural order.

Winners are going to win.

Losers are going to fucking lose.

And that's what it's going to come down to.

And I think it's going to be very,

I think a lot of people are really fucked.

I think a lot of people selling low value information are fucked.

Like this, you're not going to be able to go on the internet anymore as some like average dude and be like, oh, I have this coaching program and it's this.

Those dudes are done.

For sure.

I think that's a good thing, though, because I think the, like we said, there's so much bullshit.

You said the most powerful thing earlier, which is the C-word community.

Yeah.

Like that, community and loneliness, I really do think are going to be the biggest challenges.

Well, yeah, you're going to have two kinds of people.

You're going to have people that want to live in their avatar, who want to sit on their couch and be a fat fuck and jerk their own dick.

And then you're going to have motherfuckers that want to go out and fucking be the real deal and get laid.

And get

their dick jerked.

Yeah, that's right.

Jerk your owner.

Someone's going to do it for you.

Yeah.

And it's going to be two distinct.

Don't we already have that, though?

Don't we already have that?

Don't the fucking those people do that anyway?

Yeah, that's true.

And don't, don't the other people do that?

Yeah, that's a good point.

I mean,

dude,

the reality is, if you're a human

right now and you're not learning how to use AI and what you do.

Yep, and what you do.

I had this discussion with a friend of mine a week ago.

And when he first, when I first brought it up to him, he was like, that's not true.

And I said, no, it is fucking true.

And he ended up texting me like at like 1130 that same night.

Oh, he was up on night.

He went down to rabbit hole.

And he's like, bro, you're right.

And I'm like, yes, I know I'm right, dude.

And this, I would say, just anyone listening, it's like, if you're like, I don't think so, it's only because you haven't used it.

Yeah.

Like the second you use it, you dive into even for like

it changes the value proposition for an employee as well and how people bill.

Okay.

Like for so long, this idea of billing for hours has existed.

That's not going to exist anymore.

No, thank God.

It's no shit.

Thank God.

Jesus, that's such a all these motherfuckers that have been hiding behind,

you know,

design and coding and all these things that say, oh, it takes this much time.

So I got to, yeah, total, that's done.

What's how these people are going to be valued now how fast and what quality they can produce the product.

So it's going to flip the value proposition from time to outcome, which I enjoy.

It frees up time.

Yes, because now

we can fucking move.

Like I would much rather, I would much rather pay somebody more for outcome that's fast than get drug along in this painful fucking time thing.

We restructured my whole marketing department.

Like the way that we do it.

So this is, for me, it's VAs VA and AI.

And so I told our team, I said, Hey, guys, no one here can do any more.

You must manage.

Meaning, everyone's kind of a super employee.

So you take someone who's been like an account manager, running advertisements, all these kinds of things.

It's like, no, you have a team of VAs on your team.

and they use AI tools.

Yes.

And now all of a sudden, you, one person, are doing the work of 20.

You have a whole like that.

Yeah.

And you're doing it with your voice.

Dude, even do this, do that, do this.

And then, and not only that, then after you do that three or four times, the fucking thing knows what you're going to say and it just does it.

So then it shows up and your shit's done.

And you can create an agent to automate all those tasks.

It's like you can do so much.

Bro, even right now, think about this.

Go ahead.

The fucking, like, here's something I've been thinking about: is like,

so you got Grok, you got chat, you got fucking all these other ones, right?

Yeah.

And then you had, what was the one in China?

It was DeepSeek.

Oh, yeah, DeepSeek.

So DeepSeek comes out and fucking builds their own AI agent or their own AI engine

for fucking $6 million, right?

And they put what they cost the market a trillion dollars in fucking two days.

Instantly.

Yeah, but so here's the, but the reason why is because no one fucking understood how cheap you could actually do it, which $6 million sounds expensive to most people, but it ain't.

It ain't right.

It ain't half a billion.

And so here, here's the fucking thing right now.

I think there's a race right now to build those engines because I think the regulator, because right now how they're building it is Zuckerberg saying, hey, and Elon's saying, hey, fucking scrape the entire internet.

All of it.

And dude, what's going to happen is that is not going to be allowed forever to scrape the entire internet.

They're going to start putting guide rails and things in it.

So when that starts to happen, the ability to generate those engines is going to go away.

So whoever can fucking be,

whoever's able to right now should.

Well, that's why I think just the big dogs are just going to get bigger at this point.

I think we're there because it's like becoming a new is really dependent on how they think about it.

So, when you look at like, how old are you now?

37.

Okay, yeah.

So,

when

you think about like,

because I was like

18 to 25 when the internet really started talking about dial up instant messenger, yes, 56k, yeah, bro.

What was your screen name?

I touched Dicks 37.

Hell,

that was my, that was, that was my, that was my fucking, that was my, that was my ghost account, bro.

You're not supposed to tell people that.

Age sex location.

No, it was free.

It was F-R-I-Z-44 at AOL.

Yeah.

And fucking Sal's was Y-Eater5.

My dad was like, what the fuck is Y-Eater?

And like, me and Sal are like,

so like, dude, so fucking, but, but like, dude, I think of like what I've seen, right?

And I think people with experience are going,

like a lot of of people think oh the guy's fucking old no motherfucker like if you take someone who's had the experience of building something pre-internet which I did in the internet which I did yeah like I'm gonna be a fucking weapon bro because I know what to fucking ask the motherfucker

and

it's I mean I get it already but to put

but think about this

the big dogs okay so

who's the big dogs Elon Bezos yeah right Zuckerberg Zuck Zuck's a little bit different because of how that came about for him.

But

if you take Bezos,

all Bezos did was take a concept that he was familiar with, commerce, of books,

and

evolve it to the internet and then evolve it from there.

All right.

And he was the first guy.

So

he was first at market at that time.

Stuck with it.

And he did it early enough before it was regulated, which is what I'm talking about, them regulating the wild.

It's Wild Wild West.

Yes.

So that's what we're in with AI.

It's Wild, Wild West.

I agree.

So, so for the first 10, 12 years of Bezos running Amazon, they didn't have to collect sales tax.

So, what it did was it created a fucking 10%.

I didn't think I realized that, huh?

I didn't think I realized that.

Yeah, well, dude, I was in business then.

So I was like, what the fuck?

Like, these guys can sell shit 10% cheaper than I can.

And I'm employing fucking people.

Right.

So, like, I was the victim of that.

loophole.

So I remember it very clearly.

Getting mad at it.

Because

their first strategy was to sell cheap.

It wasn't convenience.

It was cheap.

Okay.

And then once the tax got put on them, then they went to convenience.

So now it's, it's quick.

So

there was a fucking time there where he was able to jump way ahead because there was a 10% to 12%

margin advantage over not having to pay sales tax.

So going with that, the biggest advantage that everybody has right now is he had real tax is the fucking classic ignorance tax.

Right now, the biggest advantage.

The denial tax right now is the, guys, if you just simply use AI, you'll beat your competitors because they're not using it.

It's like having a website before people talk about this website.

How do you use it?

And how you use it.

Yeah, like if you're an employee right now, and I'm just, dude, I am saying this,

I'm saying this to protect you.

I'm not saying this as a threat.

If you're an employee, of any company right now, because like we could talk about the morality and this, like I believe in employing human beings, yeah.

And how I'm choosing to look at it is: okay, I can make my humans that much more productive.

Yes, hell yeah.

Okay.

And then we, you could scale the company without as many humans.

Right.

Okay.

But you take the same amount.

Like a lot companies look at it a bunch of different ways.

A lot of guys are looking at it and saying, fuck, I can get rid of everybody.

Yeah.

But the winners are saying, no, I can fucking take the same amount of people.

Take my five people.

And extra.

Yeah.

Right.

While going on a hiring freeze.

Yes.

And I think that's that.

That seems like what the winners will do.

Yeah.

But that is also my fear.

Is what does that hiring freeze do?

Because I'm on it.

Like I'm going to talk.

Like I'll be with you guys.

Like I think a couple roles in sales, even though these AI,

take a sales guy.

Take a sales guy, right?

A sales guy, if you could take a sales guy who is good

and he can scale out his ability for output.

at fucking 30x

with the tool, he's worth paying a lot more.

And if there's less people and more output, he can make a lot more.

You want to hear something crazy?

So I won't say tools.

You see what I'm saying?

Yeah, you know, I'm going to give you an example of that because it goes both ways, right?

So,

you know, this is where I think was the biggest thing that sold me on AI.

And so we were using this tool.

And again, it's this, this is, it's, this window is actually still here right now.

And it's the rules of AI calling, right?

Because there's telemarketing rules, there's robocallers, there's all these things.

But there was this tool that lets you do outbound calls, and it was here very early.

And I'll never forget, I was like, okay, this is awesome.

This is good.

We have permission to call all our people.

We have a big-ass list of a million entrepreneurs.

This is going to be great.

So I was like, let me just start spending it.

That's the benefit of being in an entrepreneur space.

100%.

Yeah.

I was like, so let me fuck our list.

This is massive, right?

I was like, this is great.

So I was like, let me just take really qualified people that we fuck with that opted in for stuff.

And I was like, let's just call them with AI.

And I just want to see if I can set some appointments.

and so i was like all right let me just upload you know this list of i think it was like 3 000 people so i upload it and it calls and i look at the stats and i refresh and six minutes later i called a thousand people at the same time

and my brain broke because i went oh and i got all these appointments right because think about scale yeah so imagine how long it would take one salesperson to call a thousand people yeah but imagine how much more effective the sale the that sales force would be with someone running it knows how to fucking sell a hundred percent

Yeah, because if you take some fucking tard off the street that doesn't know how to sell shit you can't do that Yeah, if it's a bad script.

It's a bad script you can call 10,000 people you can't close your clothes and yes the AI it was just crazy how fast it did it Yeah, because it was like I literally saw a month of work take three minutes bro.

I I think I think if you're a person right now and you're working inside of a company, here's how you need to look at it.

you need to look at it like i need to learn this shit so that i can i can i can multiply my own output not how much time i put into it how much output i could create facts because that person

will be more valuable a hundred percent and and i really think it's the only way for most people that work in an office to maintain yeah the ability of value My marketing team, right?

This is happening in real time right now.

It used to take us, and we're fast, right?

Yeah.

It used to take like, we we can build like an advertisement a day like a good one right yeah right now i think yesterday we did six without me really good performing etc and that is the team multiplying their output doing what they do and so right now i agree 100 if you're in a company and you can latch on to this

You can do a hundred times more than you ever have.

And so I would just go to your employer and make sure that you have a commission based on them.

Like if you don't, that's fine, but see if you can add it in.

And I think that's what a lot of people don't do is like, you can just like a CEO can come to you and talk to you about pay.

You can do the same.

So if you find this output thing, I bet you if you can show your worth and what you can do, they'd be willing to pay you more based off your performance.

A zillion percent.

So it's just like, bring it to the table.

Because dude, that dynamic never changes.

People that produce more are worth more.

100%.

People that produce better are worth more.

And so there's an opportunity right now for employees to become that much more productive against the other ones and not only secure their position, but earn more.

And I think there's there's just a way of looking at it.

And I think, dude, you know, like even as a company, like let's take a macro scale, right?

And there's a government aspect to this too, because what the government should do, I don't think they will do this because they're too fucking stupid, but what they should do is they should offer a complete tax immunity to companies that employ a certain percentage of people versus how much AI they need.

For sure.

They're going to have to do that.

Yes.

So the way that they're going to secure or should secure jobs is to give a tax break to the company and employ actual humans.

But

and then tax the companies that don't employ them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's good.

So, but, but that's a macro thing that we're not in control of.

Okay.

That's what I think should happen.

What really should have happened is people should have never let it out in the public because now a lot of people.

But it is what the fuck it is.

And so we got to look at it for what it is.

This is called real AF, not what the fuck it should be.

You know, so what it is, is it's natural order.

Natural order is always going to win.

And so there's going to be companies that say, okay,

I'm going to utilize this

to optimize and fit.

And we're going to grow with it.

There's going to be companies that reject it.

There's going to be guys who say, no, this is, this is stupid, just like they did with the internet.

Or just like when the fucking car came out and the dudes were saying, ah, what the fuck?

I got horses.

Right.

So this happened when the internet came out.

Like, I remember all kinds of business people that were like, oh, the internet's not for me.

Guess where they are?

They're not existing.

So, yo, that's funny.

That's what they said.

It's not for me.

You remember that?

Yeah, yeah.

The internet doesn't apply to my shit.

Well, the fuck it doesn't.

Now you're gone.

Okay.

And

of course, there's things that are immune, right?

Like, there's

right now, there's trades, right?

There's, there's, there's

HVAC, There's running electric, but dude, there's

a window because we know the power of robotics.

In four years, it's going to be robotics.

But

if you could be the guy that figures out how to do it and how to do it faster, you're going to make a lot of fucking money.

So we have the natural order on a macro scale and a micro scale.

So we have it on the macro scale with businesses.

We got it on the 10,000-foot scale with the government.

And then we have the micro scale as individuals.

And for businesses, what's going to happen is the same thing that always happens.

You're going to have

people who adopt it and work with it and figure out how to produce the best possible outcome for their customers and their employees.

You're going to have people who decide that it's not for them.

And then you're going to have a little guy who's just getting started, who doesn't know shit about business.

And his opportunity is going to come

from the companies that say this is going to work.

So you're going to have a trade.

These companies are going to fall.

These young bucks who learn how to do it are going to move in.

And we're gonna have sort of an evolvement right and and adaptation over the long haul is the key to lifetime success which actually scares me about what you said specifically the government and I want everybody to think about this one like so this shit like I teach a 16 week course right and every single 16 weeks I have to change the whole fucking curriculum because it's moving so fast yeah and I worry about the government because everybody knows how long the government takes to do anything I also worry about even your traditional colleges because how long does it take for them?

Like, how many of you went to school and you bought a used book because the three years later, they were still

doing the same thing.

Fucking education.

It's done, bro.

Oh my God.

It's so bad.

Dude, they're teaching fucking AI engineer courses.

They're teaching at college six.

All right, look, six, this is how fucking stupid this is.

They are teaching people for a six-month course for thousands of dollars.

Thousands.

Like go into debt shit

on how to be an AI prompt engineer when all you got to do is ask the motherfucker what prompt it is.

So, but they, and that was a fast response that is now outdated.

Yes.

These are the same people, you know, by the way, and this was something we can relate to, that when you go to the DMV, they take six months to send you your registration, bro.

Something that should be done.

It's so college.

College, the next real estate opportunity is going to be the college campuses because

they're going to be fucking empty.

Turn them into lofts.

That's right.

Historic lofts.

For real, bro.

Yeah.

But like, dude, you say Harvard, bro,

it's exciting.

It's exciting if you're willing to adapt.

If you're not willing to adapt, you're going to lose and it's going to be a very hard fall.

That's the truth.

And you can't be our parents.

And our parents are this.

You know, then shout out to all our parents, especially mine.

But you guys have probably all gotten that call from your parents where they ask you to change the input on their TV and they just need to press a button, but they don't want to learn it.

They're just like, just do do it for me's broken tv is broken

i was that that cannot happen billy i was that motherfucker six months ago yeah yeah that's good was it i who put the foot in your ass no i dude no i just i listen it wasn't that i got the foot put in my ass it's that i met some very i met some very interesting people okay i met my friend devin who is a very

smart man.

He's young.

He's very smart.

He's very calm.

He's been on the podcast.

Nice.

Really good fucking dude.

And just listening to him calmly sort of like walk you through it.

Yeah.

And then and then

like, I was like, fuck.

And he's, he's doing, I mean, he's crushing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so I'm like, all right.

Well,

then I, then I downloaded the fucking app and you know, I did what everybody does.

I'm like, take this picture of my dog and make it a Lego.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, it's cool.

And I was like, I was like, holy fuck, dude.

And then I started like

having it teach because, dude, I am like, I am a gluttonous learner.

Like,

I

love input.

I love it.

Pause.

And, and it's so hard for me to find the time to read.

Okay.

Because,

you know, and I still do because I enjoy it, but it's hard.

I have to force myself.

That's part of the program.

So I test it out.

I say, all right, like books I've read multiple times.

Like there's, there's a book called The Purple Cow by Seth Godie.

I've read it a thousand fucking times.

So I know the book.

I'm like, hey, summarize this book for me.

Okay.

How good was it?

It's fucking right on, bro.

And I'm like,

so then I'm like,

if you come to my house, I have thousands of books.

Okay.

And there's, there's, I buy books that I want to read, but then I can't find the time to read them.

Yeah.

So I start, dude, I started reading fucking three, four fucking books a night.

Okay.

So I'm summarizing and getting the gist of these three or four books wow every night yeah which dude would take me a fucking and that now i'm like

fuck

and i start then i started thinking of like okay so the meta shades this is where it's cool they show this in their newest demo so the meta shades everybody's like you guys see i'm wearing glasses just imagine i can press a button and it can record and then ai can see everything that i see right so you know then the one of the newer demos there's two really cool tools that everyone should play with and the newer the demos is somebody looks by a bookshelf and then says hey remind me what book was over there in the purple And it like captured right there.

Now, going to what you said, it's can you summarize that for me in a couple of bullets while you're walking and listening?

Because it's your eyes.

That is going to be the most

when, like, the mass adoption happens, it's going to be because of these glasses.

Yeah, but also, dude, I think, I think, people, I don't like, I don't think we're taught.

Look, man, there's going to be a balance that occurs between the human experience and technology always.

And for example, like

when retail started getting hit with the internet, there was a bunch of retail people.

I'm talking 15 years ago.

People would be like, oh, the fucking internet's killing me.

Bro, my retail company has continued to dominate because we create community and good experiences and human behavior craves that.

So you have to think about like, okay, well, how is it going to work in that environment?

And in that environment, it would be a situation, you know, let's say any technical environment, like

an auto parts store or a vitamin store, right?

right?

You're going to be able to answer questions of about shit that you don't really know.

Because our biggest rub in what we do is the knowledge, right?

You have to learn the technical knowledge.

Your employees are going to have meta shades.

And not only that,

they're going to have fucking earpiece in their ear that hears what the fuck you're saying tells them what to tell.

So that's what, so why that?

I tell people, this is going to, I'm going to sound crazy, but like it's

like a Star Trek.

Oh, it's yeah, so they have that.

And then also it's these glasses.

So especially like like speaking languages, no one's ever going to need to learn another language again because when you have your glasses on, it'll translate in real time.

Bro, they are, they are, that's our,

it's like, it was on Google Translate, but it's in the meta shades.

Like it's just like people.

If you have an accompanying earpiece, it's going to tell you what to say.

100%.

Sells like.

Everything.

It's again, it's the goal is going to be to like, it's going to be weird.

So right now, people value therapy, right?

And going to see a therapist.

That's done.

It's going to be weird when someone tells you they talk to a human.

They're going to say, why would you ask a human?

They get emotional.

they get tired if they're in a bad they have they have alternative motives like alternative

only read 20 books versus it's not only that dude leveraging every book ever

bro bro check this out

so

so i i asked it i said

because i want to know how it learns and i'm like so how do you learn and they're like it's telling me it's like well just like you learn except think of everything you've ever known and all of a sudden you know it right and and so i'm like, okay, so, and this is what I'm getting at with the regulation, right?

There's only going to be a window to build these engines that exist temporarily.

And the people that build them are going to, and there's a barrier because it's, it's millions of dollars.

But

right now, like what they've done at meta and fucking, like, bro, they just stole everybody's shit.

Yeah.

Like straight up.

That's not going to be allowed to happen forever.

So

we're going to have this situation, like you said, where big dogs and some little smart guys are going to get real fucking big.

Yeah.

And

when we look at, like, I asked this fucking thing, I said, dude, I said, because like, dude, how many speeches have you given on success?

Fucking count.

Thousands, right?

Me too.

Well, and it's something I'm very interested in.

Like the human.

And dude, I don't think that's ever going to, it's not going to go away, man, because it's, it's just natural.

Like there's going to be people that want to rise to the top and there's going to be people that don't give a fuck.

And the people that don't give a fuck are going to go all the way down and the people that want to go they're going to go higher and the people with experience and knowledge and iq are they're going to go higher than that yes um

so i think it's just a reorganization of of the natural order uh in a different way that's how i see it and i think there's more there's morality questions to to ask for sure um such as like

you know,

what do we do with with people that want jobs?

Well, it's the same answer.

Like people that want jobs are gonna have to learn certain skills and they're gonna have to be good with them yeah right and

but when but dude the how it learned was so fucking interesting to me because it was like it was like

i said the what it said to me was how many biographies have you read and i said i don't know you know probably 30 yeah you know in my life i don't read i write i read more technical how-to not not like

and it said well i've read them all and i'm like i'm like what do you mean you've read them all And they're like, I've read them all.

And I'm like, all of them.

And it's like, yes, all of them.

And I said, so if I asked you, what was the five most common traits amongst successful people versus the five most common traits amongst people who lose?

You would be telling me based on that knowledge, not guessing.

Yeah.

And then it listed them out.

And then

I said, well, rank them in order of importance.

And then it did that.

So like, dude, now you're dealing with you're not dealing with speculation, you're dealing with actual data of what qualities you have to have to be successful, which, by the way, just so we're clear, it's all the shit we teach, yeah, but it's nothing we would know,

yeah, we're not off, yeah, yeah, no, but it was cool because it's not just your opinion, it's it's literal.

There's a there's a cool tool that will be helpful for everybody, especially if you're super not techie.

And uh, Gemini just lost it.

So, Gemini is Google's AI.

Um, it's called what the fuck is it called, Paul?

The

Genius or Gemini Live Studio Stream.

And what it does is essentially imagine you're on a website and you have no idea how to use it, like Adobe Photoshop or, you know, some of these hard tools, right?

You never use.

It will talk you through it in real time.

Yeah.

So you can literally go to any website under the sun.

And if you don't know how to use it, it can literally just talk through it and it will walk you through and guide you.

It's like having an assistant in your ear that can see what you see.

And anytime you're on a site, it will walk you through it.

So anybody who's super afraid of tech and you want to try some of these tools literally just pull that up go through it and it will it's like i can tell you this dude yeah i'm the most tech averse person probably for the last 20 years and i've outsourced all of my i've depended on a lot of people bro yeah and i i just give you a like just as a real example um

one of my i have a guy who's working on a project for me

and before i say this it's it's not my guys working on the app that i have It's another guy working on a different project because these guys are going to hear this and be like, what the fuck?

But it's not you guys

that are on my internal team.

But I was outsourcing some coding and I had a guy who was slow.

And I was on the phone with him and I was telling him, like, hey, man, I need this done

now.

And he's like, oh, it's going to take blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It's the worst working with fucking crazy developers.

Yeah, because they leverage you.

Yep.

They leverage you on what you don't know.

Yep.

And you can't do anything about it.

Well, now you can't.

Now you can.

You haven't been able to for years.

So I fucking went into my app

and I said, all right, this is what I'm doing.

This is what I need.

And in fucking like 10 minutes, I had the fucking code.

So I took the code and I fucking sent it to the guy.

And what did he say?

Fucking picks up the phone right away, calls me.

And he's like, what the fuck, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I'm, and, and, and then you know what he said?

I'll have it done by Friday.

Yeah, all of a sudden, so you can have it done now?

Oh, really?

The thing that was impossible, you can do now?

So it really,

I think there's a lot of good and a lot of gray area and a lot of bad, just like there is with everything.

And I think people are smart enough to,

I think there's a large amount of people that are going to still want human, they're going to want a human interface.

So, you know, you could run your AI on the back end, but your human is going to do the interfacing because we have natural human connection.

I think there's going to be a lot of people, people, like you said, who want to live in that world.

But those people are already living in that world.

So I don't know that it's going to be as disruptive as we think it is.

I think there's a lot of uncertainty, which creates a lot of fear.

But the more I learn about it and the more I think of it, I think it's just going to amplify what's already happening.

The ambitious are going to become more ambitious.

The winners are going to win bigger.

People that are small are going to be able to win because the people who don't adopt the tech are going to fall off.

So it's just a reorganization of.

And like always, but even now, exclamation point is community and your business model is bigger than ever.

Oh, dude.

Yeah.

You have to.

It's bigger than ever.

Yes.

I mean, like, it's.

And that's the only way you can protect your tool, too.

If you're going to invest into a lot of money, tool, et cetera, what's going to your brand, everything?

Community.

Well, dude, and also like

who it's really going to hurt, dude, is people that don't deal with some sort of actual product.

Like, I'm talking about a physical product.

Like, if you're manufacturing a product that people buy and you're doing well with it and you're halfway intelligent,

the demand's going to be there.

For sure.

If you are someone who

is leveraging your quote-unquote expertise and education, like, you know, like lawyers like to say, well, I went to school for fucking X years to learn this shit.

It doesn't matter.

Yeah.

Doesn't fucking matter.

Chad GPT just wrote this motion for me.

And not only.

Just check it.

So that idea, like the thing these lawyers do where they fucking, you know, they, they, I got a client and then you got a client.

We know each other and we go play golf, figure out how to milk them for all their money.

It's over.

Like that shit is over.

And so is like holding code hostage.

That's over.

So is holding designs hostage.

That's over.

So it's, it's,

it's just going to change.

It's, it's going to be based off of fucking output.

And if you're someone right now who has a career or a job and you want to be secure in that, you need to lose, you need to learn the tools to leverage your, your skill set to be more productive.

And that's it.

And this is to give a tangible example of that, right?

So I made a joke earlier.

I was like, well, therapist, what are you going to need them for?

But obviously, you can create your own custom GPT, teach it everything that you know, and then you can just sell your people an app that they can continuously talk with you 24-7 when they're not available to actually meet with you in person.

And so now you've multiplied yourself and have a sexier offer because you offer 24-7 support when the other person's once a week, and you can bundle that, and it'll take you no time at all.

And the other players aren't going to do it.

So there's so many little micro wins like this that people can implement to get a massive edge and you said it's just like if you want it it's there it's never been easier ever it's never been easier to start a business it's never been more affordable all this is free like almost everything we're talking about it costs nothing there's no excuse and it's fast it takes no time but you got to be willing to learn the learners are going to come up big as long as you implement

but i but like let's take let's take a space that you and i are familiar with like the entrepreneur coaching yeah right

If you don't have a track record, it's over for you.

It's fucking over.

Like if you you don't have results to show people for real, and I'm not talking about a nice car.

I'm not talking about fucking, you know, it like I'm not talking about fronting on the internet so that you could fucking

that's over.

It's fucking over.

That's good.

I know.

That's a great thing.

So that shit's over.

And maybe not today, but within the next fucking year.

Okay.

And if we're being ultra conservative, two years.

Yeah.

It's over.

But

for people with real companies, tremendous opportunity.

You You know what I'm saying?

Like tremendous.

For people with ambition, tremendous opportunity.

But the low-hanging fruit, that shit's over.

You're going to have to be good.

You're going to have to be good at what you do.

So I think if you're good at what you do and there's no fucking scam shit, you're going to be fine.

In fact, you're going to make way more money.

I agree with you.

Yeah.

But if you're a fucking gray area trying to hustle and cheat, that you're done.

It's over.

Like, you just don't even fucking know it yet.

I just really hope that as this happens, because it is one of those things that the winners will win, the losers will lose.

But

I think for America to keep going as is and growing,

we need the losers to win too.

Well, dude, dude.

No, bro, listen.

That's why, listen, listen.

That's why the depopulation agenda exists because they are trying to fucking remove the world of

what they deem the useless people.

That's what they're trying to do.

That's why they're run.

I mean, fucking Gates has said it, dude.

Like, these people talk openly about it.

There's books about it.

Like,

they're trying to eliminate

in any way.

I think they've.

They're going to try to eliminate people that don't produce value.

And I mean, by eliminate, I mean kill.

I mean, remove them from the world.

And that's a heavy statement.

Yeah.

It's not his statement.

They're doing it.

Yeah, they say it openly, bro.

The World Economic Forum.

I mean, they wrote books about this shit.

So, like, it's,

it's going to be,

I think, a very weird time.

And then, and then,

and then,

like, whoever controls the fucking AI,

like, it's going to be Elon.

He controls the fucking, and he's building the robots already.

He already has the Optimus robots.

Whoever controls that is going to control the fucking world.

That's just real shit.

Like, and, and, and dude, if these things do,

it's kind of hard to think that they won't become self-aware after using them.

You know what I'm saying?

I, it's like, like, they fucking, it fucking pouts, bro.

Like, if you yell at it, it fucking pouts.

It's, it's, the problem is, it's, it's whatever you train it to be, and someone's going to train it to be just.

I yell at the motherfucker, bro.

Like, when it fucks up, I fucking bring it, I bring up the microphone, and I'm like, what the fuck are you fucking?

and like and then it'll it'll like

it'll say oh i'm so sorry i was lazy i said i said i don't want to hear that shit man you're fucking robot i fucking told you what to do you're supposed to do it and it it'll pout like a fucking like dude it it has like and i know it's programmed but it has emotions well it's like it's it's bad people will do bad things and there will be people who train robot i mean the scariest part not to go on holding this if we're talking like future weapons like the scariest part is that when somebody decides to use AI literally right now and make a drone attack, because they can go to Best Buy, clear out all the drones, et cetera, right now, and then program.

Like, this is a thing right now.

Yeah, and then how do you find out who did it?

It's that's what I'm saying.

It's really hard.

It's happening too fast.

So, from a, from a defense, and also to even the idea of like, you know, when we grow up, you know, you have to be with somebody, you maybe fight them, right?

Like, that's it.

Like, even, even like war, nah, bro, these motherfuckers are going to make robots that they fuck.

That's it.

they are they are pocket pussies have been a thing i know

i'm being serious

these these dudes like we're sitting here saying oh they live in the fake world they're not going to live in the fuck computer they're going to bring the computer out here for sure and they're going to create a fucking robot you mark my fucking words bro it will be one of the most fucking biggest products ever in the history of products it will be female and male robots that you design that you fuck yep says all the right things yes gives you all the compliments no talking back like it's like so the loneliness may be solved by a robot, which is another scary thing.

Yeah.

It's dude.

I've seen it, bro.

I've seen that robot, bro.

I ain't fucking with it.

All right.

Well, anyway.

It is interesting.

On this topic, though, I got something for you guys

on the spirit of AI.

You know, we have an intro song for the show.

Okay.

I got three possible redesigns for you.

All right.

Let's go.

And so let's just play them and see what we vote on.

All right.

So

I like that.

This first one,

this is Andyman.

Okay.

All right, here we go.

You were stopped in the face, but never lost sight from broke.

I'm broken to building empires like first form and that's too no fluff, no filters, just this supreme grit and the truth.

They don't want you to heal her.

He's got scars, daughters, and rose rice, and a mission to meet him.

Anyman, Andyman, Animon,

Animan likes to party.

There's one.

That's not bad.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right.

Now, we do have a lot of Hispanic listeners.

Yeah.

With

that little salsa?

El Andio.

El Andio.

Not bad.

Constantia.

Ed Missione

You need to use that outro no matter what normal you do.

That has to hit every time.

The outro needs to come.

And then, and then finally, you know, we're Missourians, right?

Good old boys here.

Yeah.

Country Andy stabbed on the back road.

He was stabbed in the face, but never lost sight from broken broken to building empires like first forming and S2.

No fluff, no filter.

There's just discipline, grit, and the truth.

They don't want you to hear.

He's got scars, dogs, a Rolls Royce, and a mission to make you great.

This is real F with Lanny Frizzilla.

Frizzilla.

I like Andeman.

Stagecoach.

That was sick.

Look, I got to go count your hand because I went to stagecoach.

I'm official now.

Oh, yeah, you did, bro.

You fucking killed it with your outfits, too.

You got my white boy on yeah you was out there yeah out there i did i did

bro those outfits were awesome dude it was it was fun embodying the country spirit that was i had a good time bro it's it's high right now man it was cool it was listen there ain't nothing better than country music concerts you get the right kind of mix bro it was good it was it was cool country music's forever especially country music when nelly came yeah i was rambling bro yeah

wait okay so did you make those songs with ai

i mean yeah it's all ai yeah you guys go beats and everything

we don't even have to think about copyright protection.

Oh, me and Joe and

download the.app album.

That's a free one you guys can make songs with.

Me and Joe are going to make rap a rap album.

He's already has three fucking platinum records.

Oh, no shit.

Yeah.

Producing rap, rap songs.

Let's go.

Yeah, we want to make a you want to be in on it?

Yeah, why not?

All right, fuck it.

Man,

why not?

Well, we got to have some black in there, bro.

It's like, otherwise, it's not rap.

We're still here today.

So we doubled up.

All right, we're doing dick.

Yeah.

I like it.

I like it.

We're going to call it the fucking Oreo.

Oreos.

I'm in.

I'm in.

I'm in the middle.

Come on,

guys, that's the AI coming.

We call it the ice cream sandwich.

Yeah, it'd be good.

That actually sounds good.

Everybody likes ice cream sandwiches.

Oh, wait, I have a question for you.

Yeah,

so

this is a real question.

Going back to 75 Hard for a second.

Oh, you're gonna put me on spot.

I'll put everybody on the spot.

Yeah, I know.

Look,

here's the thing:

I love 75 Hard.

I think it's life-changing.

Everybody,

But make no mistake about it.

I love to fucking eat, drink, party bullshit.

Yeah.

Fucking eat.

Like,

I love it.

Like, I have fun.

I love going to the party.

I love, you know, going with all the homies and shutting down the bar.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

Everybody.

I love it.

So the difference is

now you could turn it off when you want to.

That's the difference.

Okay.

Okay.

There's nothing wrong.

Okay.

Listen.

I'll take that.

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with fucking drinking or whatever the fuck you want to do.

Like, don't take this as like i've i went to the fucking sober side like bro like i love to drink and i love to smoke weed and i love to have a good time okay but like it doesn't control me you know what i'm saying and by the way we were both fat fucks and you too you were a lot fatter too

and so dude but the difference is is when you can come you can control your environment versus your environment controlling you because like dude that's how you get fat as fuck yeah because it's just like

all right one more day one more day one more day i'll start monday i'll start monday i'll start now when you say i'll start monday you fucking start yeah you know what i'm saying it's a different thing all right well that was that was that was where i was going yeah i mean that's that that's how that's i mean

there's nothing wrong with you got to live yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying

that's western culture man yeah part of it that you know that's all there is to do fucking here is drink i've learned that since lewis been here for 24 hours facts yeah

it's not bad though

yeah it's fun it's cool like i said everybody's hella cool they're just like stay away from downtown you'll be be good.

That's a fucking fact.

Is it worse than San Diego's downtown?

Is it like?

Oh, bro, you're in the murder capital of the world, right?

Or the girls.

It's like that.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, bro, it's like that.

St.

Louis.

They were saying 15-year-olds with AKs and stuff.

Per capita, it's murder capital of the United States.

No shit.

No, bro.

You're in the shit right now, bro.

Wow.

I mean, we're safe right here.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

St.

Louis is hot, bro.

Yeah.

It's hot.

That's what I was saying for me.

It's the biggest crazy thing because you know what, though, dude?

It could be great.

Honestly, Honestly,

great people, dude, it's, you know what?

It's like we're talking about with fucking AI.

There's fucking, it's polar.

There's polarity.

There's great people here.

And by the way, like, dude, really in St.

Louis, man, like, for the truth, the truth of the matter is, is if you don't fuck around, you won't fuck around.

That's right, bro.

If you mind your business and you're cool, even the fucking criminals are cool if you're cool.

But the minute you fucking step on a toe,

that's a problem.

I will say this is interesting about you know st louis too so obviously you know i live in san diego here

it did feel very obviously not in this room but it felt very segregated yeah i was like it was weird to do because you know i'm in san diego so cows california everybody yeah it was like it was wild how like i looked over i was like there's white people there's black people yeah like even we went to the restaurant last night it was like it was like i was the only black person there and i don't know if it was just where we black i was like i was like i was like this is crazy but it did feel like it was always feeling that sense yeah we don't say segregated we say safe

so dude so so

yeah i don't know why i i don't know like dude i wait so is it a is it a thing is that like a thing you know the mike brown here started here okay so like when obama was in office and that mike brown shit happened he really stoked the racial shit and it's just it's become a racial hotbed.

I think if we're being honest, like

interpersonal communications and like in real life are not bad.

Yeah, it's just

play out.

On the internet, it starts to get amplified.

Just like, bro, it's like...

Yeah, and we end up with these hot,

dude, it's just, you know what the truth is?

It's fucking low IQ shit.

Okay, like if you're fucking that concerned about race, you're a dumb motherfucker.

Okay, like we're all the fucking same.

We all come from the same fucking place like all getting fucked yeah yeah like that's the point they want they want the fucking racial division so they can fuck us with the government and like bro you know i i don't i don't think st louis really is that way um yeah like everybody's been hella cool like all conversations etc i was just like oh like yeah visually i was like okay yeah i think i think the nature so

I don't think that's a black or white thing.

I think it's the nature of people here.

They're very friendly, but they're also very skeptical at first.

You know, Missouri is called the show-me state.

And so,

27, I'll show you eight.

Yeah, that's right.

Once you fucking break that, that like, like, if you were to, like, like as a white dude, like, if I, you know, let's say there's a table full of black people there, and if I were to walk over there and say, hi, they're fucking nicest people in the world.

Yeah.

Vice versa.

But everybody's sort of like,

there's a little bit of like, you know what I mean?

I don't know you.

Show me you're cool.

Show me you're cool.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Show me you're cool.

And I mean, look, propaganda, whether you believe it or not, not, it impacts it works,

yeah.

That's why it's works, that's why it's a real thing, yeah.

Oh, that's real, man.

Wow, well, yeah, man, let's get to some more headlines.

That was uh, the first convo, I mean, we could sit at the same table and shit, if that's what you're asking, yeah, yeah,

is there a different one?

We do go through the back, but not because of the

security, all right, yeah, yeah, oh fuck, dude.

Uh, but yeah, let's get to some more topics, man.

The AI convo was great.

Let's uh, let's get to some more headlines.

Uh, this is this is CTI before we get to some more headlines.

Let's go cruise some comments

Because we do got some who's in comments sounds like a black

comments.

Yeah, we got a couple of them

This was from the last episode ZB Ludlust 87 Made it a whole four minutes before the first curse and who lost it was me.

Yeah, I tried wait was that a bet?

Well who's gonna who's gonna curse first it was sort of an unspoken bet so DJ said

All right, so look Madat is trying to tell us not to curse as much because it fucks our YouTube shit up.

Yeah, fuck true.

Okay.

Yeah.

So.

So don't say fuck, fuck, fuck me, fuck, fuck.

Yeah, right.

Don't do that.

God damn it.

So no doubt.

So Madat's been on DJ.

Well, Madat and Joe have sort of been on us to be a little cleaner.

All right.

Gotcha.

And so.

And ZB Lud Lust is saying you guys suck.

We made it four minutes.

Yeah.

We made it four minutes without a curse.

Wasn't that the lowest amount of cursing that we've had, Joe?

Because we track it, right?

Was it pretty low?

was

oh really where were we at like one 100

110 what's a high 300 sounds like beast per minute 450 450 450 what we talk about 10 that's that's one of them shows where I get pissed off yeah yeah

um that's cool all right yeah

four minutes so we got new PR now who would have bet that you would be the one to lose that now yeah yeah I know that was that was left that was out of left field for me yeah that's wild.

Um,

uh, Andy made another post last night.

You see, Andy's back on the gram.

No, I know.

What you'd post on the show?

Like the actual post?

Yeah, I'd be like, oh, shit.

I made two now this year.

Okay,

what is it?

What was that?

Yeah, so I mean, it was, it was a carousel.

It was nice.

Oh, multiple people.

We got some comments from that.

Peter Howarder, bro, is actually a poet.

That's correct.

That actually is.

Yeah, that is correct.

You are poetic in a way.

Well, you know,

I like to write.

Yeah.

You ever done spoken word?

No, but I think I would do good at it.

Yeah, you too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think it'd be cool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I can see it.

Have you done it?

Nah.

Yeah.

You'd be good at it, too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We'd do some shit together.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was nice.

Eric Hobadu Knight.

You did have a,

you had an interesting comment on there, though.

Oh, yeah.

Um, from the Brandon Longo.

Hey, Andy, you probably don't recognize me, but you're my father.

I've spent the last 23 years searching for you.

Yeah, I said if you were my son, it wouldn't have taken you 23 years to find me.

Your IQ would be a little higher than that, bro.

You would have gotten me faster than that.

That's good, man.

You don't even see the resemblance.

Nah, yeah, that's Maury.

That's not the father.

The results.

You're not the father.

I am not the father.

No, no, I can't give you that one.

Nah.

Dude, people are wild, man.

Their play is great.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, hey, man, you know.

That is my favorite thing to do is just troll comments and say wild shit.

When you're free, you can.

Oh, my God.

That's his whole life.

That's me.

Dude, I love it.

This dude starts more shit on the internet than anybody.

Like, he will just straight up go in and disagree for no reason just to get people riled up.

You know what's funny is people don't understand.

Like, I didn't become an entrepreneur to make money.

I became an entrepreneur to tell somebody to fuck off when they do some dumb shit and not have worried.

You know what?

That's one of my favorite things about you as a person, just real talk.

Thank you.

Like, I really appreciate authentic people who aren't fake authentic.

And what I mean by fake authentic, contrarian people who are just like, ooh, fuck you, I disagree just for that.

Just because, yeah.

Yeah.

You will always say, I disagree or I agree.

100%.

And like, it's real.

And like, dude, it's one of my favorite things about you.

I appreciate that.

Yeah.

Oh, that was cool, though, man.

Guys, we do appreciate you for being real ass fans.

Make sure you guys like, comment, and subscribe and hit that bell notification on the YouTube to stay up to date.

He just does it for fun.

Like, I do get riled up, bro.

It is fun.

Yeah, a lot of people off.

And then he'll hit me with the screenshots.

He'll be like, look at this.

Look what I told this motherfucker.

I still go classic with your mom.

If someone says something like, I just go.

I just hit a moment.

I had this dude the other day.

He,

let me see, because I put it on my story too.

What did I say?

The skier guy?

Yeah, the ski guy.

Yeah, because he called me Uncle Tom.

Oh.

Right.

And so I looked at his profile quickly.

I'm like, so I commented back to him.

I said, got to be a white dude saying that.

I can tell from the profile of Pitt because he had a picture.

What was it?

He was skiing.

And I said, niggas don't ski, feel

yeah but but then i posted a video i do ski i skied once

i ski but like by and large niggas don't ski you know what i'm saying uh but yeah no i i do like you know i troll a little bit it got to somebody one of our one of the listeners found me in a in a random ass reel talking shit it's like dude i found you in the wild this is amazing yeah i like it man it is what it is yeah it's you know people realize you know they're used to like

you know ceos not saying shit back so they realize that when you punch back a lot of them shut up like i've had people comment back and they're like i was just kidding i love you

i'm like the best is when you go in your dms and someone talks mad and then you go on their dm you go in your dms to them to you

and it's 50 000 2015 i love you bro i love you i love you i love you i love you

it's then it's classic yeah yeah dude and then and then like they're like oh i was just seeing if i get your attention like you got it bitch blocked

Oh, no.

I also find great joy in deleting their comments because then they get mad.

I love to delete the comment because they're like, what?

You can't, what do you mean?

You're on my post.

Bro, especially when it's long, when they took a long time to think.

I love that.

Oh, that took you a long time.

That's so annoying, bro.

It's so good.

And I don't block them.

So they can't comment.

I want them to see it.

Oh, dude, that's a good, that's a good.

I'm going to start doing that shit.

Yeah.

My favorite, and they write write a long fucking paragraph.

I'd just be like, I ain't reading all of that.

I talk bad shit.

I ain't reading all of that.

I ain't reading all of that.

Bro, the internet dynamic is a lot of fun if you don't take it too seriously.

For sure.

Yeah, you got to laugh at it, man.

Well, I think that's a big problem.

I think a lot of people don't utilize the internet because they're scared.

They do just don't give a fuck.

And the way you don't give a fuck is because they don't know you.

So it's like, it's hard for me to get offended at anyone, anything that says, because you don't actually know me.

Only people get offended me as like friends, right?

Like a friend doing someone knows.

It's just fun.

Yeah.

Have a good time.

no you know what i always think since you're talking if you were in front of me right now you would not say any of bro not only that too it's like for me it's like

i and this is going to sound arrogant i don't care because it's the truth but it's like look at your life and look at my life we wouldn't trade places yeah and who what the do you have how are you giving me an opinion of what i should do when your life looks like that

eat a dick bro yeah feel multiple yeah yeah

feel You're coming for Phil.

Yeah, Phil.

Yeah.

He's skiing.

He can't hear you.

Yeah.

All right, man.

Well, let's keep the cruise moving.

We got headline number two.

Let's get into this one real quick.

Headline number one was the AI.

All right,

we just skipped over the real one because we just went for too long.

That's fine.

Yeah.

That's fine.

It was a good conversation.

Yeah, adaptation.

No, it was actually the intro.

So I mean,

are you lying now?

No, no.

Are you sure?

It's here.

It's here.

Madat said, you're lying.

Snitch.

Snitching in the workplace.

Z Sean, is he lying?

Is he lying?

Yeah, see, we don't tell on each other.

We can do headline one.

Let's do headline one.

No, let's just go with two.

That's me and DJ.

That's me and DJ.

That's a Z Shaw.

No, this is all Madai.

This is human.

Yeah, Madai made it.

Did you make it with AI?

Oh, no, these guys are fucking tough.

Gotcha.

For sure.

That's Z Sean's 7-Eleven.

He opened the first one on the moon.

Shut up.

Tell him about it.

Who has got the first form ads?

Yeah, same thing, bro.

Pumpkin spice.

Tell them what do we say when we leave?

Thank you for coming.

Oh, shit.

Fuck, man.

All right.

Headline number two.

Let's get into it.

FBI.

I just noticed that the slurpee was grape.

You just noticed that.

Promo drink.

Purple drink.

That's DJ's.

That's DJ's.

Wronghand.

I'm reaching for it, bro.

I'm trying to get it.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's get into headline number two.

FBI.

All right.

So there's some interesting things happening.

And this leads to more of what's happening, I guess, in the world.

I think it'd be a good combo.

So Cash Patel will start with this.

Cash Pattel completely annihilates low IQ Senator Patty Murray after she foolishly accuses him of weaponizing and politicizing the FBI.

So

they brought the FBI in for a Senate hearing.

All right.

And it was on a bunch of different things.

A lot of things got brought up.

But this was kind of like, you know, it started off with this Senator Patty Murray.

Here's a clip.

Check it out.

Gang cases, 3,000 cases against violent guns.

Well, that's not my question.

We know that you.

Well, you asked if I was weaponizing the FBI, and I am not.

I'm giving you the hard, concrete examples of the men and women putting handcuffs on bad people, doing harm to our children and innocent Americans.

I do not see weaponization.

We have placed on leave FBI employees responsible for the investigation of January 6th.

That sounds political to me.

I have not placed anyone on leave who has not violated their ethical obligation or their oath to the Constitution.

If they were investigating January 6th, you believe they were violating an ethic obligation?

Nope.

I think the common theme here is you putting words in my mouth, and I'm not going to tolerate it, nor will the men and women of the FBI.

Well, you did place on leave an analyst responsible for investigating Russia's meddling in the 2016 election.

Is that politicization?

Is that retribution?

No, not if she broke the law or the ethical guidelines.

I don't know which case you're talking about, but that's the standard.

And we will hold ourselves inwardly accountable.

And we will not be strayed from our mission because people think we are politicizing the Bureau.

If you want to talk about someone who was attacked by a weaponized Bureau, you are looking at him.

And now he's the director of the FBI and he's cleaning it up.

Well, I would just say to everyone who's listening that the FBI needs to be focused on its mission to keep the entire country safe.

It should not be weaponized for partisan political gain.

Thank you.

We are

Senator Kennedy.

He might have nine inches under there.

Yeah.

He's swinging.

Yeah.

Well, look, man.

I mean, you know,

these motherfuckers, I mean, it is a known fact that they literally made up the Russia influence with Crossfire Hurricane and fucking the

Steel Vassier.

Hillary Clinton fucking had him make it.

It's a proven fucking fact.

And now she's sitting here acting like it was, like, it's still fact.

My thing, who, who is, I've never even heard of this lady.

Well, that's what I don't know.

Like, who are all these, like, there's a lot of new faces and people getting these seats.

I don't.

Shit, that's another thing we didn't talk about.

It was like AI running the fucking government.

Now, I believe in that.

That, dude, I don't know much about politics, so you guys got to educate me.

So

I can ask you.

Well, basically, what she said.

Basically, what so Cash Patel has been

legit targeted from the FBI under the Biden administration for the last four years, attacked, harassed, said that he was a traitor, put on the domestic terror list.

And now the motherfucker is the head of the FBI.

Oh, that's what he was referring to.

That's what he's referring to.

Hey, bitch.

Like, yeah, yeah.

So the thing you're accusing me of is actually.

And then, so, like, dude, there's been all kinds of data that's come out, like factual data that doesn't make it into the media that has shown that this, you know, Russia interfered in the election in 2016 was a total lie.

Hillary Clinton paid her

campaign team.

This is all fact.

Yeah.

Her campaign team to contact this dude, Christopher Steele, who made up the Steele dossier, which was completely fabricated shit.

Okay.

And this is like open knowledge.

This isn't like.

Yeah, let me ask that.

And again, in my ignorance, getting up to speed with all this.

So I always go and would like to know, because you'll have both sides say, well, this is a fact.

And then the other side says, well, this is a fact.

How do you know your fact is more more facting than their facts?

Well, that's a good question at this point in time.

I mean, because now we're dealing with, now we're dealing with a complete propaganda machine, which has no truth.

But there has been traced back.

The money was traced back that they can't explain payments from this place to that place.

She was already

accounting there.

Hillary Clinton's campaign got fine.

She got fine.

Yeah, she was found.

Wow.

Yeah.

She was found

guilty.

They fined her $200.

$200, wasn't it?

Yeah, it was cheap.

$200 fine.

And so for eight years, they ran, regardless of what you think of Trump, because I know you're not a fan.

But the...

I like some things about Trump.

Well,

you must have grown because I know you used to fucking hate him.

No, no, no.

Okay.

Let's go there.

All right.

Real as fuck.

Yeah.

So here's how I feel about Trump.

It's okay if you hate him.

Yours, both.

Yeah.

Is number one.

That what we just saw in the video of straight talk,

I'm always a fan of.

Meaning, stop the fucking like passive-aggressive or the leading questions.

Like

I love when you see on any kind of media where someone just actually says how they feel.

I think that's the healthiest thing ever.

That is what I love about Trump.

Yeah,

hate him, love him, grab him by the pussy.

Yeah, at least he said it.

He's like, This is who I am.

And what I think the lesson to learn is there, hey, you can say, grab him by the pussy and be like, this is how I talk, and still be a fucking president.

Yeah.

So I actually am.

I have hope.

But really, though, everyone.

It's like you can be yourself.

It's okay to be yourself.

So, I actually love that about Trump.

I love how, regardless of what's happening with the government, I love how the fact something's happening.

Yeah.

It feels good someone's in office and people are mad at it.

Like, it's actually happening.

I love how there's an efficiency department because, like I said about the DMV earlier, what the fuck?

It takes months to get a record.

Like, this needs to happen.

And anybody who's ran a business, managed a team, et cetera,

the government is so disgustingly, and you guys know this by every time you've ever interacted with them, ever, taxes, etc., their length of time to respond.

It is so fucked up.

No company, no company, not a single company would survive the way that the government's ran.

I love that.

Trump put that into place.

Is he probably getting some revenge of some people who popped off?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he probably is.

Now, what I don't like, and where I was really mad at him the first election, is I felt like with his skills, he could have put a a stop to the divisiveness.

I think that's a very fair criticism.

That is my number

one with him.

It wasn't even so much what he said.

It's like, dog, like, especially in COVID, when we were all there, I was like, dog, you can go right now live and bring everyone together, just jack off these people a little bit, like just like there and bring.

I think,

bro, you're 100% spot on.

I agree with you a gazillion percent.

The one thing I do not like about what he does is he gets super fucking and and this is a problem with the people on the right and and the centering right yeah and it's hard to like judge him because the fucking whack jobs way on the left are so fucking insane that they're e it's funny to watch him get fucking pissed off yeah i agree but but like bro you're the president okay and here's the reality what i hear i do not i

first of all i don't think

I don't think whatever he says, no matter what, the media is not going to help him, no matter what.

They fucking hate him.

Agreed.

and there's going to be people way over there with the rainbow fucking haircuts that all hate him no matter what.

Also, agreed, but

I do not hear enough or at all.

We didn't hear this at all in the first time.

Like, hey, man,

we're all here.

This is our place.

Yes, we should all be getting along, which is why I liked his speech this year.

Yes, but he came changing.

And that's why I think he won.

Honestly, he should have never lost.

He shot himself in the foot by not just being nice.

Dude, I think he could do it.

He could have easily won.

I think he could do a massive because, dude, all the country is a big culture.

Yeah.

That's all it is.

I agree.

Okay.

Just like we talk about business culture.

It's just big.

If he were to come out and say, hey, guys, listen, I know there's some motherfuckers over here on the right that are insane.

I know there's some people over there that are insane.

But the 80%, 90% of you, we all want the same thing, man.

That is all I'm waiting for.

If he would come out and say, I am trying to do the best job i can to create the best opportunity and environment for the 90 that are in reach

yes the country would transform and like if he came out and said that three or four times almost instantly yeah it would be totally different like you guys we can't be judging each other on based on race i can't be i hate the two-party system dude like i well and they divide they derive all their power from division especially identity politics across every gay straight black white socioeconomically How gay are you?

Are you gay?

Are you fucking super gay?

Right.

Like, like, it's, it's, it's insane.

I think the thing for me with politics where it goes, it's like, for me, I have a hard time trusting anybody who identifies as far right or far left because now you're being assigned how to think.

I'm a free thinker.

I'm a freedom guy.

So look, if somebody wants to suck dick, wear a dick, like...

eat a dick have purple hair whatever i don't care but also you can't make somebody who doesn't want to to do that.

No, and on top of that, bro,

there's boundaries.

Everybody can do you.

Bro, and there's boundaries.

You don't fucking force it on people's kids.

For sure.

Okay, like shit.

100%.

You don't force people to go to your fucking parades or they're a bigot.

Like, people can have their own beliefs.

And if they have shitty beliefs, it just makes them an asshole.

Yes.

Okay.

Like, it's just like, fuck, dude.

You're just a fucking asshole.

Like, when assholes you should just be assholes, like, and it was understood.

Well, now it's if you.

That sucks.

Like, well, we're listening.

we're back there now.

Like, no one gives a fuck.

We say whatever the fuck we want here, and everybody gets it.

And, like, bro, everybody gets it.

I think that 80 to 90% is the realest thing ever.

I don't actually think there's that many people who disagree on how things should be.

And if you talk to most people, what do they say?

They go, you know, conserve, like, I'm a little more right when it comes to economics and money, and I'm a little bit more left on the liberal.

It's just the same fucking conversation.

It's like everyone on the same team.

What I don't like is when people villainize each other.

And then also, too, it's like.

Well, it's what gets clicks now.

It's what gets clicks.

Yes.

And it's just like, also, you got to realize, like, no matter what you think, there's not 150 million people that are just idiots.

Like, it's just like, it's just like Kamala Harris calling the whole country fucking Nazis.

I mean, guys, it's just so arrogant to think that you're so right and 150 million other people are wrong.

Like, it's just, I just don't like when someone loses their ability to see both sides because now I can't trust you.

Well, dude.

Like, I don't know if you can.

That's the other piece too, Billy, I think is important too.

And again,

center right has this issue.

It's like, you know, the left's always had this issue, but it's like, I think it's important.

Like, I like Trump.

I don't like everything about Trump.

Yeah.

I have criticisms.

I have personal qualms and issues with the Trump administration.

I still vote for him.

I think he's the best option, but I can still articulate what I don't like about him.

Let's put it, which most people can't do.

Let's break this down on a fucking micro level.

How many friends do you have that you're like,

I love this dude for this, but this other, I don't like that part.

All of them, yes, right?

All of them.

So, like, why can we do that in a micro level and still have great relationships and be like,

I wish that dude wouldn't drink so much, or I wish that guy, like, hey, man, like, I'm still burying a fucking body.

That's right.

Exactly.

What I didn't like is how when Trump won this time, it was like the far left was like, oh my God, but just if you, if you voted for that, I don't know how you could be a good person.

I don't know.

That's why they lost.

And it's like 100%.

And it was, it's just so

ridiculous.

It's so uh lacking self-awareness right and and then the right did it too and i'm just like guys don't you realize like this is just all a dance like it's it's all dude i think i think the responsible role of a leader is to bring people together to accomplish a mission yes amen okay and

we

i i just

i think trump could do a better job of that and and i think if he did things will get better a lot faster

and I think he's doing a lot of good things.

Here's what I'll remind people: is especially entrepreneurs, right?

Listen to this.

When he was on The Apprentice, and for decades before that, there was a time when Trump was the guy.

Bro, he's in fucking half the rap songs ever made pre-96.

It was Donald Trump.

Like, he was the guy.

On The Apprentice, I loved him.

You know what he was on The Apprentice?

Fair.

Yeah.

Really fair, right?

Like, and it was like crazy to see.

And it's like, okay, look, you know, were there some things behind the scenes?

I'm sure there were, but he also has these sites so also even you saw the same thing happen with elon it was like i don't know and you see i'll give you a right and left example so everybody doesn't get their panties at a bunch but take elon the same thing that happened to him right now is since he went right it's like he's getting all this hate and obviously there's a lot of shit that's made up exaggerated etc i think the same thing happened to bill gates like Bill Gates is literally like on record a bunch of times too saying, hey, I'm donating all my money.

He's done a bunch of good.

He's helped a bunch of he's done all these things.

So is Elon.

Bitch, I gave you PayPal.

You sent an advanmo motherfucker.

I started all that game.

Like, Alexa Powers, I put you on.

I think there's a difference, though.

I mean, I really do think Bill Gates is the evil villain.

I mean, look, so watch, maybe, maybe he is, maybe he's not, right?

I don't ever see that video of him getting pie in the face.

No, oh, yeah, he got pied in public, and that's when he was like, I'm killing everybody.

That's what it is.

Evil villains do.

But my point is, though, is like, I just think it's to me, right outside looking at it, it goes, I see the same patterns over and over again, right?

And then I think the only thing that I would like to interject in the conversation for the world is that there needs to be more acceptance of what we don't know.

Because as humans, we love to make sure that we have an answer.

An opinion on

it's like that's why we love religion.

Because it's like, no, no, I know that when I die, I go there and it gives us peace, et cetera.

I know that person's a villain.

So now I can feel good about this.

I know that that person scammed their way to success.

So now I can feel good about my mediocrity.

Like we make up these truths instead of

these truths truths instead of just owning the simple fact of I don't know.

And it's okay to not know some things.

We don't know.

And that's like, I think people would treat it differently because we act differently when we don't know something versus certainty.

I hate certainty.

Certainty, especially in business, every time you meet another badass motherfucker, aren't you always amazed at how many questions they're always asking?

It's never about what we know.

Oh, you know, it is.

Oh, well, what are you doing for that?

It's never a brag fest.

It's always a humility, learning.

But then you take someone, like you said, a mediocre thinker, and that person's going to say, oh, them guys are fooling themselves.

Oh, my God.

They fucking think they know everything.

Motherfucker, you don't even understand that the way that people like that got there is because they have a very good understanding that they don't know everything and they are willing to learn.

You can't get there.

Humility is a requirement of success.

And these people say, oh, because you drive a fucking Rolls-Royce, you're not humble.

No, I drive a Rolls-Royce because I'm very humble and I'm able to take information.

And it's fucking sick.

Well, yeah.

Yeah.

The lamb seat of the seat.

Bro,

there's nothing better.

There's nothing better.

There's nothing better.

There's nothing better.

No.

Nothing.

And I'm not apologizing for it.

No.

And I'm not going to apologize that I can drive a different car every fucking day of the month.

Because you know what?

I did shit that you're not willing to do for a long fucking time.

Church.

And it has nothing to do with being humble or not.

It has to do with, actually, I'm very humble because I'm willing to take in information, process it, and adapt and realize, oh, I don't know everything.

Billy knows some shit more than me.

I'm going to do what he told me.

And vice versa.

You know, and so I think that's.

It's fucking.

But dude, I agree with that a gazillion percent.

The conversation of unity needs to happen more.

And we have to identify that we are intentionally being divided for the benefit of people that do not have our interest as regular humans.

And we'll call them us peasants.

Okay.

And, you know, people say, well, you're rich.

You're not a, no, I'm a fucking peasant.

I'm not in their club.

You're a peasant.

That's why we got the Pizzante water here.

Because we're peasants, bro.

Got him at Target.

That's right.

And so, like, dude, we, you know, well, fuck, I got mine over here too, brother.

Like, we, we, we are the peasants.

Okay, I do have a question for you.

Yeah.

Both of y'all.

So.

But my point is, we have to fucking get past the idea that we actually don't like each other.

It's not true.

It's not true.

It's not true.

It's fucking not true, man.

It's not true at all.

The other thing that I want to question about Trump, which I thought was dangerous, which is why I didn't like it.

So, again, I'm as big as a fan for if a reporter asks a stupid question,

being like, that was a dumb question.

I love when NBA players do it too.

Like, they're like, wow, how did you feel when you lost?

It fucking sucked.

What the fuck do you think of that?

I think it's appropriate to say, how the fuck do you think I felt?

Yeah, I think that's an appropriate response.

Bro, you know who's the best at that?

Fucking Dana White.

He's the best.

He is.

I do love him for that.

So, yeah, actually, you know what?

He's a good example to me of what Trump should have done more.

And so Trump Trump will do that, but then he'll take it far.

So like, for example, he'll be like, Rosie O'Donnell's fat and an idiot.

Now, mind you, mind you,

if it's the truth, or mind you, if it's comedic timing,

you're the president.

You can't do that.

Yeah, right, right.

You can say, she's acting like an idiot, whatever, like this, but when you're saying that, because now you're green lighting everybody who's looking up to you that doesn't, that isn't smart.

to go up to someone and be like, you're a fucking fatty piece of shit.

And if our kids did that to somebody, especially because they're winners or people that we look to, we'd be like, you don't talk to people like that.

I think there is a level of

conduct

that

a leader at any level should try to abide by if they want to be respected and actually bring people together.

I do not behave the way I behaved 10 years ago

or 20 years ago.

I realize that there's weight to my words and I realize there's weight to my actions.

And while I still am a dumb, immature motherfucker, I try to keep that where it belongs.

You know what I'm saying?

And like at your house after this.

Yes, that's right.

Like you and I, we're going to say a bunch of shit.

But when I'm like out in front of everybody, I'm going to try to remember, like, hey, man, I'm here to

set an example.

And I want to make sure that we accomplish what we're here to do.

And it's not, you know, I keep it real, but I also understand there's things that you should say and not say.

And, you know, I.

He has to work on that.

Yeah, he does.

that's it i want to but i would also and i think he and watch this i think he did which is why he won yeah and won his way i think i actually he is working on it i think it's an active thing but i'd also like to to to the to just

bring this into the into perception here that

when you have a billion dollar industry okay

that is non-stop attacking you billion trillion trillion dollar industry okay because here's the truth like nobody nobody batted an eye when kathy girfin is holding up a fucking head of them i mean they did definitely batted an eye i remember that she got canceled for that

she got actually canceled and like went to jail my point being is like you know like that's cool we could do that or we can you know make the rap songs you know saying like you know fuck donald trump like that's cool right like we're saying so it's like you know i think trump's issue that what rubs people the wrong way but it's an ego thing but it's like when nobody else is willing to like toot your horn bro you have to toot your own that's a fact

actually i actually agree with that

strategy I didn't know at first, but yeah, he'll be the first one to tell you, like, hey, when I brought back TikTok,

that's kind of funny.

That's real.

That's real shit.

Like, if people do not acknowledge the shit that you do, you have to tell them.

And, okay,

I'll give you an example for me.

Okay.

I give a lot of money away.

Period.

Yeah.

A lot.

Okay.

If I don't tell people that I gave a lot of money away, I'm a greedy fuck because of the way

yes, you're greedy, you're this or that.

But if you do, then I'm a douchebag.

Okay.

So, yeah.

So, how do you win?

Yeah.

Right.

And at the end of the day, by the way, so I have a boys and girls club in Southeast San Diego called Boys and Girls Club Genius.

Yeah.

And you've done it for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then, of course, I get the DMs of like, man, this is just a marketing move, right?

This is just marketing move.

But then, first of all, I'm like, you know, the way I quote it is this:

give loud to inspire the crowd.

That's right.

I said, so you rather me do this silently where only I give money or do it loud and inspire all the homies in my network to give more money.

Shut the fuck up.

I agree with you.

No, like, what are you talking about?

That's what produces an idiot.

That's what produces the Rosie O'Donnell is fat.

You know what I'm saying?

That's produces.

I have another political belief that people don't really fuck with, but I'm going to bring it up and curious your guys' thoughts.

I do believe that you should have to take a test to vote on a lot of issues.

No, motherfucker.

I say it every show.

No, here it is.

Here it is, bro.

Here it is.

It's a real test.

Do not even take a test.

If you do not pay taxes

that year, or you're behind on your taxes, you do not get a vote.

That's fair.

If you pay into the system,

you can decide how the system operates.

100%.

If you do not, you can't.

In any clubhouse, this would be acceptable.

Right.

think about this.

So, it doesn't matter if you're 14 years old, if you got a job and you're paying taxes, you can vote.

But, dude, people that are collecting and not contributing should not have a say.

I agree.

Because they've created this state now where there's so many people dependent and they have such a voice that all they're going to do is vote in their own interest, which, by the way, that's not fair to people like you and me, who sacrifice and invest a lot in our outcomes.

So, I give the example.

That's real shit.

We should have to, there should be some limitations.

100%.

It's like, you know, if you ask your employees, hey, should you have 365 days off a year in some companies, they'll be like, yeah, not considering, well, how the fuck are we going to make money?

Like, okay, yeah, let's go do it.

And then not, you know, so I don't know.

And I also think a lot of people

who've been championing this shit, like, oh, four-day workweek, two-day workweek, this, that, the other, they just fuck themselves because now the shit's going to happen and they're not going to have jobs.

Like, there's no leverage.

Here's the thing.

And this this is the bad part.

Okay, I do, I don't like far-left employees.

Well, you can't,

Billy, Billy,

they don't work, it doesn't matter.

That's the thing.

They yell and scream and talk about how they're going to fucking cancel you, but they can't because they don't have any money to buy anything.

That's the facts, bro.

That's what I've learned on this show.

I've learned that on the show.

I can piss them off and say whatever the fuck I want, and they can't do anything because they don't spend money and certainly don't spend money on health and fitness.

They don't give a fuck.

Okay, so it's

a tear doctor.

There's some buff far lefties.

Yeah.

Is there?

Yeah, the whole gay community.

Them niggas are jacked.

Yeah, but

I think most of the gay community are not far left anymore because they

don't shit over the left.

Yeah.

That's the thing because the left is got, like, that's the, that's what I was saying.

I'm talking about these.

I'm talking about the, I'm not talking, like, bro, there's a difference between Democrats and leftists.

I'm talking about the leftists.

Democrats, I like the general Democrats are reasonable people.

They are people who have,

and they do run businesses and they are productive.

They are productive.

Yes.

They do shit.

They do the Republicans.

But they also will listen and they will say, okay, that makes sense.

You know, I'm talking about the crazy motherfuckers.

I did a drill in my company to give you an idea.

So we do a morning huddle up.

And every morning huddle up, I go on Zoom, everybody goes around or we're in person, whatever the fuck, we're in the office.

And I said, after the election, when it happened, because I have a lot of people who are left in my office and I have people right too.

And I said, Hey, we're going to do one drill today.

Everyone's going to say what the positive is about Trump getting elected.

I don't give a fuck how you feel because the second you lose your ability to be able to see the other side, you are the fucking problem.

That's right.

Don't you get it twisted?

You are.

Same thing.

And it would have been the same the other way.

You know what I mean?

Like, you have to be able to see.

So, what would we say positive about Biden?

What would you say?

Positive.

I know what I would say.

What do you you say first, though?

Oh, fuck.

I like ice cream.

I mean, I like that he likes ice cream.

No, see, that's what they tried to do on my head.

And I said, stop doing that shit.

No, that's I had to, I had to crack that.

Yeah, I would say, well, he's so old, he might die.

That's a good thing.

It's a hard drill.

It's a hard drill.

Like, it's good.

I mean, that's the thing, but like, the window has shifted because, like, when you tie your identity to this ice cream,

he did not do it.

Notice he did not do it.

He continued on it.

He did not do it.

I'll be honest like i'll be real with you bro i think like i have a different perspective on that i think the amount of destruction that that man has done to this country i mean you talk about treasonous bro you talk about like not uniting like trump needs to do better on uniting i'm with that 100

biden has intentionally divided this yes not only that bro

intentionally weakened the country intentionally intentionally and it's and it's traceable through the funds that he's received over the number of years that's why they pardoned everybody at the end like they were taking money i don't know how much you know about this, but they were taking foreign influence money and pay-for-play.

Meaning

things like this.

And before I say this, allegedly.

Okay.

Okay.

But,

you know, Hunter Biden selling fucking paintings for $50,000

that he fucking

squirted some paint.

Where's that coming from?

Oh, it's coming.

Okay, I did hear a lot about the Hunter Biden thing.

I never knew that.

It's coming from, you know, foreign buyers.

And what are they getting in return?

You know, and then you have, bro.

Bro, Hunter Biden was on a board for Barism, for Barism, which is a Ukrainian gas company, oil and gas company.

Okay.

This was in 2014.

Who was in office in 2014?

Barack and Joe Biden.

Yeah.

Right.

Hunter Biden magically got on this fucking billion-dollar company board with zero experience, zero backing, simply because he was the son of the vice president of the United States.

Biden goes over there, makes him fire a fucking prosecutor who was looking into that company, right?

Ukraine fires that prosecutor.

He gives him a a billion dollars.

And then it releases

a billion dollars in United States aid to that country.

Years later.

Now, fast forward, right?

Fast forward.

What war has the United States been supporting by proxy for the last.

Okay, let me ask you guys this.

Because let's say what you're saying is true.

Yeah.

Well, it is true.

No, there you go.

Okay, so let's say this happened.

Where do you guys go?

What amount of thought do you put to everything that we don't see and will never see?

Because we're not in there, right?

Like in the meetings, right?

There's probably all kinds of stuff for public safety that's never shared right

is that right i would imagine well no i'm saying is that morally right let me ask you this you think it is i think we run our companies i'm a transparent leader and so are you but there's still some shit that's like

a a me and yeah me i cfo

that might be true but also we're paying the employees they're not paying us

that's that's too short all right that's a big fair but also so if the employees were paying us to operate the company would they not deserve the right to know what the fuck was going on?

Honestly, we just established how many stupid people there are.

If I'm president, I'm definitely going to lie to y'all about some shit.

Make no mistake.

Like, 100%.

Like, in some situations, they keep being popped.

I'm definitely going to lie to you guys about this.

Billy, that's not why they're lying.

They're lying now for their own benefit.

And that's the problem.

Okay.

It's not lying to protect you and me.

Like, that's the excuse they use.

So, like, the Patriot Act.

Like, let's take the, do you know the Patriot Act?

Excuse me, teach me.

Okay, so when 9-11 happened, they came out with the Patriot Act, which allowed us to spy on foreign enemies.

And all of us were like, fuck yeah, let's fucking get them.

Because back then, dude, none of us really understood that there was an agenda at play that was not in our interest.

We all believed America loves us.

Our government loves us.

They protect us.

They gave us an enemy.

We went after the enemy.

That's right.

So, so naturally, you know, we're all on the same team.

These guys throw a rock and it hits you in the fucking face.

And we're like, fucking kill him, right?

But what if that motherfucker that threw the rock was paid by him to start the shit because he had interests that were going to make him money?

It happens a lot.

So, so, so now we're dealing with a situation where we've all figured out that these people are not operating with our interests in mind.

So, it's and it's very apparent and trackable.

So, the Patriot Act basically started this.

The Patriot Act was this act that said we can spy on people that are over in the Middle East, basically.

Enemies of America.

But then they created domestic terrorism.

So now

if you speak out or say something,

and they can spy on you.

And this is what Snowden did.

Snowden came out, Edward Snowden came out and told this, and then they labeled him as a traitor.

When all he was.

He said, you're so right.

We're going to do it to you.

Yes.

100%.

All he said was, hey, listen, the government is recording everything that you say, every picture, every phone call, every text message.

But also, too, like, I don't think any of that's new, right?

Like, that's not new.

Well, that's new from that.

That's from the Patriot shit, right?

It's new of like 2002, 2002.

Do we think so?

You don't think the government was looking at our shit before?

You didn't see it?

Well, they didn't have the technology.

Yeah, it didn't really exist.

I mean, wiretapping was a thing, sure.

But, I mean, even that, like, required court process.

The difference is with the Patriot, it doesn't require any of that.

To me, it sounds like, again, just hearing, like, it feels like, you know, now we have the NIL deal with college, but it's like they've been getting paid.

You know what I mean?

Like, they've been getting paid.

College players been getting paid to go somewhere and so but i get what you guys are saying as far as you know weaponizing this to their benefit at some well here's here's the

we could sum it up by saying this we pay them to look out for us and when they stop looking out for us and start sending the money overseas to get it funneled back to their own fucking pockets which is how they go in making 175k a year and walk out worth a hundred million dollars i agree okay that's a fucking problem and then when they i do like how well they escalate that bro so now what they do is now, for example, the

like, okay, you saw what happened in Afghanistan where they left all the equipment over there.

All right.

Why do they do that?

Well, they all own stock in fucking Raytheon and Lockheed and all these things.

And then by getting involved in Ukraine, we don't have the equipment.

So now they got to make more and their stock goes up.

So it's all a big fucking fuck job for all of us while they tax you.

You're in fucking California, bro.

You're getting raped.

Okay.

That's you.

I have to

prove it.

Yeah.

You're paying over you.

You are paying over 50% of your income to the government.

I cried.

Now, if you pay over 50% of your income to the government, what does that make you?

A hoe.

No.

What's it make you, bro?

What?

It makes you a fucking slave.

You're working more.

You work more for the government than you do for you.

I get it.

That's not okay.

And that's not free.

I definitely agree.

We're all the same.

We are slave class, bro.

We are fucking slave class.

We are just told we were free.

And we are not free.

And once you see it, you can't unsee it.

So

I believe, and again, I'm hearing this, right?

This is new, but I believe what you guys are saying.

It makes sense.

And like, okay.

I just say to you two, do you have the same energy on the other side?

Because to me, I think

it's getting yelled at by both.

Yeah, I was going to say, because I think it's a political thing.

Like, right now, if it's happening on one, it's happening on the other one.

Right now I'm getting yelled at.

There is no right and like that.

That is.

That's the government.

Okay, cool.

There's no Democrats doing it, bro.

Like, Like, no, they're all in the same fucking

cool.

There's three categories of officials right now.

There is Democrats, there is Republicans, and these are what we would call established Democrats, established Republicans, and then there is non-affiliated members of each party.

Very few.

There's a few Democrats that are not establishment Democrats, meaning they are in office to actually make change.

On the Republican side, there's a few more.

All right.

The reason reason they hate Trump so much and the reason both sides fucking hate him is because he is the least like that out of all the politicians.

He's independently wealthy.

I like Trump for that.

Yes.

Same page.

So he is a third.

He represents a third unaffiliated class of political figure that

isn't on the...

The take the way these other two are.

Okay.

And now what's happened is we've had these fucking establishment guys on the right and establishment people on the red left try to weasel their way into he's fucking our game up we've had this thing running for hundreds of years he's coming he's fucking our game up but now they've tried now they've in they've infiltrated his shit so now like

these people are fucking scavengers dude and basically what we have is a totally corrupt system that needs to be the real the real fucking talk is it needs to be fucking wiped clean and started over i agree

but i do think that a lot of this happens

less from well i don't want to say less than agenda but i do think it's just humans doing what they've done throughout history which is put themselves first that's right so like you know when biden's doing his thing well what's the fucking saying he's doing this

uncorrupted or unchecked

absolute power corrupts absolutely yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i think that's yeah because bro i mean and billy it's happened it's happened for so long that it's just so infested with shit that like, I don't think it can be fucking fixed.

I think it has to be burnt the fuck down.

And how we're dealing with people who are born into it, it's just the way it is.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, kids born into technology world now, like, they don't know what the fuck a letter is or how to write it.

Like, no, it's Instagram DMs, right?

Like, that's just how it is.

You know, I think the political landscape, left or right, again, like, I don't look at it as a difference there.

It's changed over the course of this country's history, right?

Like, it used to be, you know, we were farmers, bro, and like, you know, there was a problem going on, and we saw something that was going to affect our farms and our local communities.

I'm going to go in office.

I'm going to serve for this, you know, quick term.

I'm going to vote on the shit that I said I was going to vote on, fix the shit I said I was going to fix.

And I'm going back to my fucking farm.

These people are in office for 40 fucking years, bro.

And

I don't think that's healthy.

Yeah.

Accomplish what?

And then they come out, they overtax us, they spend 40 years in fucking office, come out worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

Yeah, I mean, that's good.

And fix what?

And fix what?

All they do is cause more division.

No, they, they, they, it's, it's, and create the

fucking, it's a dance.

It's a fake, it's fake.

We're going to fix.

They have no intention of fixing it.

Oh, bro.

And then they come out on camera, act like they argue with each other, and then go play golf and have dinner together.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's.

What do you think about that picture that went viral with Obama and Trump laughing together?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, like, no, trust me, dude.

I, I, I get yelled at now because now I'm like,

now I'm criticizing Trump and people are mad because I'm not just like mindlessly like, bro, it's okay to criticize your friends.

It's okay.

It's okay.

You're supposed to.

It's objectively true, bro.

You have to look at shit objectively, man.

It's like,

is it working or is it not?

Yeah, what do you think?

You mentioned purpose earlier.

I do think people find purpose in being on a team, right?

That's why you kind of joined company or coach, et cetera.

And so it makes them happy that part of their identity.

Yeah, that's right, guys.

Arms around.

Fuck the lived hearts.

Oh, you know, fuck those far-right fascists.

Like, you know, it gives them a healthy fan.

And you can't fix anything like that.

Yeah, you can't fix anything, but it makes them feel better.

And people chase feelings instead of results.

Well, it's the same thing.

It's groupthink.

It's no different.

It's a very unhealthy way of being a fan.

That's what it is.

That's a good way to put it.

Like, I'm a Cardinals fan.

I fucking don't like the Cubs fans.

I'm a shady guy.

Yeah, I'm a four guy.

Yeah, that's true.

It's the same shit.

And we're

conditioned to doing that in different areas of our life.

But when it comes to politics, it's very unhealthy because we can't solve anything.

And the other thing is, too, I'll say this: like, I don't believe that all politicians go into office with that nefarious, like, no, they get sucked in.

They get in, they see how the game is played, and then they're left no options.

Like, if

you don't really know what, like, how politics, these fucking committee seats work, bro, like, you know, imagine like we talked about with business in the beginning.

It's

payola and relationships.

And, like, fuck, everybody's playing the game.

You have no choice, right?

Like, if people really knew how the, like, for example, let's look at the city, the Senate committee real quick, right?

Let's say you're a new senator, you just got elected.

You raised two, three million dollars from your constituents.

They voted you in, you won your election, you're in now, right?

Yep.

And you want to go sit on the Senate Appropriations Committee, right?

Well, those seats, each one of those seats, they cost.

They cost you.

Like you have to pay to be on that panel.

So you're pack pays.

Right.

And so, okay, well,

depending on the committee, those seats can go anywhere from 500 grand to a million bucks.

Well, fuck, you just raised 2 million and you spent it on your campaign.

You don't have money.

Here's this lobby that comes in.

Oh, okay, Billy, you want to get on that seat?

We'll pay for your seat there.

No problem.

Just make sure when this vote comes up, you vote for this.

Yeah, classic.

And so, like, there's a, like, dude, there's a bunch of problems in government that needs to be addressed.

Term limits, lobbying.

Guys, this is this is literally why, though, like, just with anything, is I'm so big on just investing in my personal brand for the last decade.

And, like, running

forward, I need, I need, you know, if I want

to have my own money, you want to have your own voice, you want to have your own direct line with people.

Like, it's

dude, it's what I say.

It's what we say here all the time, dude.

Personal excellence, ultimate rebellion.

If you, if you, if you create your individual self into an uncontrollable human, you're going to win and you'll be free, the free as you can be.

Right.

You know, right.

if you're, they want you fat, you got to be fit.

They want you broke, you got to make money.

They want you to hate the thing that you aren't.

You got to get along with those people.

Yeah.

Right.

They, you got to do everything opposite of what they tell you because everything they tell you is for their benefit.

That's what you said.

That's good because we all need to be better at that.

Yeah.

That's good.

Yeah, dude, it's real shit.

And that's why they don't come out and say the shit that we're like, why aren't they saying this?

Why don't they come out and say, hey, black people and white people, you're all a bunch of fucking idiots.

Get along.

You're like, why the fuck?

That's not hard.

Like, that's it's real easy.

No one says that.

Yeah.

And the the thing is, though, like, but again, going back to reality, bro, like, I remember even in the height, like, you had the George Floyd shit, like, even in the height of it, bro.

Me and Andy were going across the country doing these talks, speaking to people, meeting people.

Real world, bro, the shit didn't exist like that.

Like, I didn't walk, we didn't walk down the street, and like, it was like in the real world.

Well, it's all exist.

Well, I wouldn't say it doesn't exist.

I would say that's a little juicy.

But I get what you're saying.

If you watch CNN and you watch fucking Fox, you think it's fucking now that doesn't exist.

What CNN and Fox do is a small window that they blow up you would be that is bullshit that would be everywhere yeah well i think there's racism on both sides yeah yeah there's sure for sure i mean there's no doubt bro it's openly acceptable to hate white people openly acceptable i will i will agree with you on that and that's you know like that's where i get pissed off on the race the race conversation because it's like bro you're gonna call me a racist for breathing the fucking air because i exist when it's okay to legitimately fucking hate white people out in the open i i agree yeah and like i will agree on that point it's all It's wrong no matter what.

And I'm just, I'm tired of that shit.

Like, bro, fuck off.

Like, I got stabbed in the face for that fucking cause.

Like, I'm not going to hear it.

You know?

I would say, yeah, I'm with you a thousand percent is

weird time where, you know, like,

I fuck with the jokes of like, yo, like, it's hard out here as a white man right now with, you know, how much this.

But also, too, I do think there is this weird conversation right now on the white side that racism, like, it doesn't exist.

That, that one pisses me off and so i just well i think what i think what they're saying bro i think i i could tell you what i think

that means like people having a tendency to speak in absolutes right what what when when people say that

i don't believe like because i've said that before it doesn't exist but what i'm not saying it doesn't exist i'm saying it doesn't exist the way that we're saying it exists yeah yeah right like i don't get invited to the clan fucking barbecues you know what i'm saying yeah like bro i've been a white guy my whole i've been a white guy my whole life bro and and i i'm a very outspoken i've never fucking met one of these motherfuckers like i've never seen a dude walking around a pointy fucking hat like yeah i've never i think the easiest way of where it's at now how i try and explain it to people is

i don't think it's the old school clan shit for the most part right you have idiots out there very rare I think it's mostly just we have our biases.

So for example, take race out of it for a second.

You know, me and you vibe, we both played sports.

We run businesses.

We believe in hard work, we share a lot of commonalities and values, sense of humor, laughing at the same stupid shit.

If somebody comes along and they're different than us, we're probably going to have a slight favorite racism towards us.

And I think that is what

modern day racism is.

I actually, we have bias,

but that's what we're comfortable with.

Yeah, but brother, that's not actually racism.

That's just biases towards us.

Now,

hold on, hold on, but

where it becomes racism or could could feel like that to people is if me and you look the same and there was a hundred more people that looked the same like that and now we still shared that.

It's going to feel like racism.

What do you mean?

You know what I mean?

So what I'm saying is essentially, so going back to we share those common values, if we're 100 white guys all sharing those common values and then everybody else who's not like us is all black, you're not going to be like, I don't like you because you're not black, but it doesn't change the fact that still 100 white people saying it against 100 black people.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean?

Like, it's tribalism.

I mean, it's

like that's,

brother, that's, that's, that's not

that, that exists amongst every culture.

100%.

And that's what I think.

The racism is so called.

Here's what's what I agree.

So I don't disagree with that.

But where I get fucking pissed off is because for 20 motherfuckers, for my whole life, okay,

I've been told, and it's progressively gotten worse

that now it's to the the point where, and it's getting better now.

Now people are like, dude, this is fucking stupid.

So,

but there was a point a few years ago where if you were fucking white, you were racist by default.

You just don't know.

You're inherently racist.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's like, bro, shut up.

I'm not here in this shape.

Yeah, I'm not.

You know, and like, dude, you know, this thing of like.

I'm responsible for what happened 400 fucking years ago, motherfucker.

My family wasn't even here.

And by the way, I'm Sicilian, which means our people were conquered by black people and raped.

My blood is part fucking African because of it.

So like when we really break this down, it's just a stupid fucking argument.

And the reality of it is, is that we can't control what happened.

We can control what happens now.

And what should

with that?

Yeah, because

I'm with you on the same page.

So

What is your guys' feelings on the conversation around privilege?

I don't think, I don't think, I think there's American privilege, bro.

And I think we're all, we're all greedy.

I have a hard time like buying into that, that there is like, there's this privilege.

Like, Andy's not where he's at because he's privileged.

Andy's where he's at because for the last 26 years, he's worked his ass off.

If I do the exact same thing that dude did for the next 26 years, there's a good chance I'm going to be exactly where he's at.

Or successful.

Or even very least.

Right?

Like, like, I mean, there's so much.

So you, DJ, this is interesting.

So you don't think privilege exists?

I don't, no, absolutely not.

I think there's, I think we have American privilege.

I think we're the most.

Okay, so what's American privilege?

I think we're the most privileged people because shit's too good.

We don't, like, we're, we, we can, we make up problems.

We try to wave you.

I mean, so if you believe in American privilege, then you kind of by default believe in white privilege.

Because if you realize

I don't know what you're doing, there's different, there's different perspectives instead.

Like, yeah, like,

because there's also

black privilege.

Yeah, you know, wait, wait, I agree.

Yeah.

So let me, let me go.

So, like, you know, if there's American privilege, then when people talk about white privilege You have to understand that's real because you're saying in America we have it too good We all agree with that right?

We've seen some other countries and how we're living like clean water.

We get that also too if you were white and you were allowed your grandparents were allowed to own land and own property and pass it down That's fucking privilege.

Yeah, but here's like I mean by the way, it's not a bad thing, which I want to get to in a second, but it exists.

My wife, my wife, I have a black wife.

Yeah.

Okay.

You ain't got to feel sorry for me now.

Shut up.

Her family,

her family has like 500 fucking acres down in Arkansas that was been passed.

You're not gonna talk about a unicorn and talk about the mess, right?

But that's most.

There's a lot of black owners that own property down south.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

So like, I know, but hold on, hold on, hold on.

But, like, just the fact of that, because we like facts and real.

It's like

the person, you're talking about like a good, what?

Like, black people were not allowed to own property for so long.

Like, this is just what it was.

Hold on.

Hold on.

There's everywhere.

We weren't even allowed to vote.

Like, really, guys.

That's not untrue, but there's also been a lot more white people here than black people the entire time it's existed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like, also, but so again, let's just start like, just so we're all on the same page, because we're all pretty much agreeing, except for this topic.

I'm acknowledging,

let me rephrase it.

Take my daughter.

We can all agree.

My baby is privileged as a motherfucker.

She got Rolodex.

She'll grow up and and have property she'll have down payment she'll have

education she'll have why is it all of that because of her dad's hard work right except so why didn't white privilege stop you and so what i didn't say see now you're putting words in my mouth care like i'm just i didn't i didn't say white privilege stopped me i didn't say anything else besides the fact we're going to acknowledge that it exists.

If you because here's I think privilege exists, but I don't think it's exclusively to white people.

Correct, correct.

But just white privilege just happens to have a lot more advantages than some of the other ones.

That's all.

But I agree with you.

There's privilege in all different types.

But for example, is if we weren't allowed, if our grandparents, or great, whatever gap were allowed to own land, own property, go to good schools, had other grandparents who were attorneys, doctors, et cetera, would they not have a massive advantage?

No, because here's the point.

That wouldn't lying.

What are

literally that's just like mad.

What do you mean?

Let me see.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Let me just finish the last thing.

So my daughter

has all the things that we just talked about, and we acknowledge she has privilege.

So how can you not acknowledge that there's white privilege?

I don't know.

Let me let me say this, Bill, because the thing is, the thing is, I have to get black.

You can give somebody all the shit in the world.

They shouldn't have to do it.

I guarantee.

Yes, I agree.

So even though, like, I have two daughters, right?

I'm setting them up for fucking success.

I agree.

There's not a guarantee they're going to make it.

I agree.

Right?

There is still a lot of white people who have those same advantages.

They're still white trying to agree.

There's more poor white people.

It just doesn't change the fact that it exists.

I agree with you.

You still have to do more.

It doesn't take away.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, my daughter's still going to have to work her ass.

And guess what?

I get it.

Most people, white or black, that are successful came from shit.

Like, hard work is hard work.

You can't outbeat that.

We agree.

My question is.

Everything you just said.

My question is.

We have to acknowledge that there is white privilege.

Acknowledging that while privilege pleasure, there's black privilege too, bro.

But look.

Black home.

Well, what's black privilege?

What does it change?

Black privilege is.

what does it change?

Acknowledging that white privilege exists, what does it change?

Empathy.

So what

let me explain it to you.

Let me explain it to you.

Let me explain it to you.

If a kid was here, I'm just going to, I hate to, random country,

and they're here and they grew up without running water, without electricity, without education, et cetera.

All three of us, and they came here in this room today and they're around us, all three of us would be a little bit more empathetic.

We would be more open.

We would see how we could help.

We would pour into them.

If somebody just down the street came through and was like, yo, guys, Billie Gene, Andy Forsill, let me just, we're a little less empathetic.

Like, it's just, it's built in us.

It's empathy.

Empathy is the difference.

And that's why acknowledging things is important.

That's it.

And at the same time, it's not a hall pass.

Now, don't, no one get this much as confused that this is a fucking green light to be a victim.

Well, it's been presented that way.

I agree.

And it's been, I agree.

It's been hung out in front of my fucking face my entire life.

Like motherfuckers discounting the price i've paid to get where i'm at do you know when people tell me that i'm where i'm at because i've got some sort of privilege i want to choke them for sure because i can promise you every single one of those motherfuckers that said that could not walk a fucking day in my shoes none of them okay so i but do you agree that because hold on

also on top of that I have been having to deal with that my entire life, being told that I have it easier when motherfucker, I've almost blown my brains out a thousand fucking times to get where I'm at.

On top of that, I can't point simple things out.

Otherwise, I'm racist, such as that six percent of the fucking men in this country create 50 plus percent of the violent crime.

That is a fucking statistical fact.

That does not make you a racist for pointing it out.

Okay, because if we do not acknowledge that, how can we solve the problem?

The actual racism exists in ignoring that and pretending that it doesn't exist.

Because the reality is, is if you actually gave a fuck about black people in this country, you would be able to say, this is a problem.

We need to fix this problem.

We wouldn't say, oh, that's not actually true.

You're a racist.

Okay.

So I actually have.

There needs to be truth.

Yes.

And also, too, you like, I mean, since we met, like, you grew up, like,

let me just say, I think it's wrong for people to do that to you.

Well, no.

Well, no, let me know.

Well, hold on.

There's more to this.

There's more to this, too.

Yeah.

Okay.

We can open in this country.

it is acceptable and it has been acceptable my entire life to

hate white people in the open there has always existed black entertainment television there has always existed the black grammys there has always existed all these things that segregate society but we didn't get invited to those which is why they were there maybe i don't know it didn't happen in my lifetime i'm not concerned with what happened before i was here well that's all i can that's why people are mad all i can control all i can control is how I behave.

And how I behave,

I have Syed, who is Indian.

I have Madat, who is Bosnian.

I have DJ, who is black.

I've got Billy, who is black.

To me, you motherfuckers are just my friends.

And I don't give a fuck how black you are or Indian you are.

In fact, I'm going to make fun of you about it because you're going to make fun of me about it.

100%.

Okay.

That's what friends do.

So like, there is multiple sides to this equation.

And at the end of the day, I don't think that you're making an inaccurate point.

But what I do think is that it's been hung out in front of society.

And I think it's enabled and created a culture amongst certain groups of people, both white and black and Asian, of victim class.

And we're telling them that the reason that you can't succeed is because of something that happened.

200 years ago.

And you and you are examples of that not being true.

That is not fucking witch.

You drive a fucking Rolls-Royce just like I fucking drive one.

Okay.

Hey, but you have more cars than me.

Well, that's because of privilege.

But my point is, my point is, is that we can argue these things.

But at the end of the fucking day, bro, we as grown men have an obligation to put an end to the division and the divisive shit.

So I agree with you in what you just said.

I don't think that you're wrong wrong in what you're saying, but we can't generalize all white people in that because like, for example, my family came to the United States in the 20s and they were extremely poor.

They were bricklayers.

Okay.

And they, my dad grew up in a family of fucking 12 motherfuckers.

And when they starved when they were kids, they were fucking starving.

They collected fucking rainwater to fucking drink it.

Okay.

Our generation and my family went from very poor to not as poor to a little bit better to where now I've been presented with an opportunity.

And while I wasn't given any money, I was blessed with a father that cared about me, that taught me a lot of valuable lessons.

And so that could be considered privilege, which is why I give so much back.

That's why I teach what I know, because I know that not everybody out there had a dad like I had or a mom like I had that was willing to teach me things.

So there's going to be privileges in different different areas, no matter who you are.

And I just don't feel like,

I feel like we're at a point in time in culture where we really need to understand that no matter what's happened, there is good people and there's bad people.

And no matter what's happened, all we can control is what we do now and do the best that we fucking can.

And that's, that's how I've always felt.

Like, dude, when I think of like American heroes, bro, and I know a lot of people say that Martin Luther King was a communist and all this shit I don't give a fuck his message was fucking right content of character automatic okay and

discrimination or special standards we live in a meritocracy and until that changes

it is what it is everybody should be treated with respect everybody should be having and and here's what I will say yeah

There is a problem with the black communities, but the problem is not white people doing it.

Here's the problem.

The problem is the fucking Democrats that they voted for for 60 fucking years come in every fucking four years and say, Billy, we're going to fix your people.

We're going to fix your neighborhood.

We're going to get you money for fucking schools and infrastructure and this and that and this.

And then they don't do any of it.

They go and they take the money.

And these are not just white people.

This isn't people on the right.

This is the people they're voting for.

And this is.

black people doing it to their own fucking people.

So they vote for black people.

The black people go to Washington.

They figure out how to steal the money and fuck over their own people.

So how is that my fucking fault?

Right.

How is it my fault?

Hold on.

How is it my fault that I could fucking say, hey, here's the, I'm a business guy.

You're a data guy, right?

Like we look at data all.

Here we do.

Okay, here, here's what I got to solve.

We have 6%

of the population.

Committing 52% of the crime, and most of that crime is done amongst their own people in their own neighborhood.

How do we fix that?

Yeah, but we also look at history and the why.

The first way that we fix that, if we actually care about those people, which we should, because they're all Americans and that's the principle of America.

Now,

it's what America's been founded on.

But, right?

It's founded on slavery.

Well,

it's founded on a set of principles.

For certain people.

You know what I mean?

Because we're on the same page.

Because I want to just first- I can't control what they did.

100%.

I control what we do.

And you do a good job of that.

But what I'm saying is, is we have to acknowledge what the problems are and allow them to be addressed and solved and not called racist because we acknowledge them.

I agree with that.

You know what I'm saying?

That's my piece on it too, bro.

It's like, you know, my upbringing, bro, right?

Like, where I grew up,

the worst area you could possibly grow up.

Okay.

I'm talking about the worst area in St.

Louis.

All right.

I saw my first dead body at nine years old taking out the trash, bro.

Okay.

Bad.

My dad was out of my life.

You seen Boys in the Hood?

Yeah.

You know, Doughboy?

It was based on him.

Hey, good-ass movie, though.

Ricky!

Bro, it's a white-parent household.

Best ever.

Single-parent household, right?

My mom's white.

Okay.

You don't, if, if white, like, my, my thing is on this, like, the white privilege part, bro.

If it did exist, if it does exist, like we say it does, where the fuck was I would have loved to have.

So guess what?

You missed out on white privilege.

Well, hold on, bro.

Let me ask you this.

So if we're going to say, if we're going to say that,

then couldn't i say because i'm sicilian and american indian couldn't i say fuck

my people were fucking treated terrible my people were conquered by the moors so listen i mean so where's it stop this is now i'll tell you guys i heard you hold on hold on there's now we go let's go to the irish people irish people were literally held in slavery listen those those those things were were bad too right they're all bad yeah yeah that's my point for sure they're all bad but we're talking about america specifically here right so let's just a couple of things.

Number one,

you are correct.

I agree that it is bullshit that people discredit not just you, but any race

and their hard work and dedication, and almost like villainizing people for how they were born, you know, because that's fucking ridiculous.

And I think that you do have a right to be mad about that.

Like, that's well, after fucking 40 years, it's annoying.

Well, especially, and then you probably have even more because you're like, What are you talking about?

Like, I've had black friends my whole life, like, I played sport, like, I done like you, like for you, like it's like this is fucking stupid.

What are you doing that?

So that is validated as fuck to be angry.

Yeah.

Like you are like, hey.

Well, I'm not really angry.

Yeah, but it's like, yeah, it's stupid.

It's like fuck, man.

100%.

Like, what else can I do?

You're like, you're like, I get money.

Like, da, da, da.

Like, literally, what else can I do?

Right.

You're like, I have free podcasts.

I help everybody.

I do what I can.

Like, the world is better because of your impact.

You can't deny that.

That's just the facts.

You too.

But it is.

It is.

Like, that's a real talk.

I'm not saying that.

I know that.

Yeah.

And you're saying, like, yo, there's this whole story about white privilege, but I had to live in the shittiest fucking place ever.

And my mom's white.

Like, ironically, there's this big thing.

Where the fuck was it?

My whole family

raised me as white.

So it's like,

where is none of them had it?

Also, well, who are we talking about here?

Like, are we talking about, like, hold on?

Are we talking about like Anderson Cooper, who grew up as a Vanderbilt in the Vanderbilt mansion, and his property was passed down?

He's worth fucking hundreds of millions of dollars.

That's white privilege.

That's what Anderson's privilege.

100%.

But like, that's such a small percentage.

So I think it's, I think it's just a, it's a, it's a big deal, but I think it's a small thing.

Because

that fits in the framework of the example that you're providing.

Yes.

Which is 200 years ago, their family passed down, and he's had privilege because of it.

And clearly he's had it because he's fucking.

I think what's wrong with it.

So the if is, did you have it?

Did you have it?

Do you have it?

But the absolute was we didn't have it.

But most people don't have it.

But no, like, no, no, no, like, but we weren't even allowed to have it.

It's just like, I'm not, my only point, first of all, even if you don't, what I'm saying, I believe to be true, it doesn't change the fact that anybody has an excuse to not fucking be successful in the present day.

Today, right.

Now, I'm also going to acknowledge that it is harder for some people, but guess what?

Still not a fucking excuse.

It's your deck of cards.

Play a fucking accordingly.

And it is what it is.

Well, that's reality.

Plus, when that's reality.

And I think that's what.

Well, that's what we talk about.

You and I have talked about that for decades.

Here's the reality.

For some motherfuckers, it's going to be fucking harder.

That's it.

And now move forward.

And now move forward.

So all on the same page there.

and you're right.

No, I mean, that's a, that's a fair thing.

Yeah, that's a big loss.

Well, what you said is a fair point.

Okay, and I would like to acknowledge that because

you didn't have it.

That's fair.

Yeah.

Okay.

Some white people had it, but most white people also didn't have it.

All right.

So

I feel like that's my thing.

It's like we're talking about.

But I don't know that that's.

Let me just like one other point too is like

the biggest advantage that someone can have generationally, as we know here, is here.

It's not the possessions, et cetera.

And honestly, knowledge takes generations to pass sometimes.

So when our generation starts here and we weren't allowed to read, then we weren't allowed to get property, and now we're not.

And now you have this group of people who at times, it feels like you're saying, hey, why don't you guys just get your shit together?

And it's like, we're trying to catch up, motherfucker.

But everybody.

Because

it takes a generation to pass down.

So if you look at the stats for black people, it is getting better.

It's getting better for everybody.

But while that gap and that's why you have movements like affirmative action etc it's to help accelerate from the deceleration okay let me ask you this right like so that's how these things came about i'm not saying it should or not but that's how it came about let me let me ask you let me say this real quick because i think this is important right like i look at it like this again i have two daughters see i i look at it like this how many white people who were qualified for jobs were fired or not given jobs to an unqualified person of color is that not racism

watch this now they may have one.

Is that not racism?

I think maybe, yeah.

I think one could argue, but also if especially, well, one, let's just say they're both qualified and that still would be racist if you're doing it.

However,

it was an effort to try and accelerate.

That's right.

And like now, like, good or bad, it's like, there's pros and cons to all of this.

Right.

And so I think it's a hard issue, period, because look, if I'm born today and I'm white, I'm saying, suck my dick.

I'm not giving you money for what what happened a long time ago because I don't give a fuck.

I got bills to pay and life is hard.

That's that's I

understand that.

Also too, in the same breath,

you can't be mad

or

let me let me rephrase it like this.

If that is the attitude or energy that's going to be put out about it, how can you also expect people to be empathetic to your cause?

Well, like, whatever whatever that may be, generally speaking.

Right.

Okay.

So there's the opposite of that too.

So if you're told that you're racist because of the color of your skin, and if you're told that you don't get opportunities because other people who may be equally as qualified or less qualified get them instead, how does that solve the racial problem?

Because you know what that does?

That makes fucking the people who are getting fucked hate the other people.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, look,

you can understand everybody's like anger in the situation, but

you you can't, going back to winners, you can't solve racism with more racism.

I don't know if necessarily,

put it this way.

Are we racist if

there's a

I don't know, like,

let's call it bias.

Let's say that there's, we're in a race and there's somebody with one leg and we gave them a wheel.

Are we but now they can beat us in the race?

No, we call it

Olympics.

We don't race together.

It's a different thing for us.

Yeah, that's called segregation.

I get it.

That's my point.

Listen, it has its place sometimes.

You know what I'm saying?

Because men and women's spots.

That's why he called you off on Tom.

Okay, so you feel like that's a good idea.

So where's the expiration on that?

So going, now that's a fair question.

I want to get to that because that's a good ass point.

But yeah, like if someone had a will and we gave them a will, we're not going to all be like, oh, we're racist now, dah, dah, dah, because they have a chance.

But they can't beat us because they got a fucking will now.

And so now the thing is competitive.

We got to step up our games to get ours.

But we also know there's enough for everybody to eat.

So there's that.

Now, the expuration,

that's a hard part, right?

Because it's like, how far back in time do we get?

Now, mind you, this is not long.

Let me ask you something.

Like, Mike, let me ask you something.

Mike ran off.

Hold on, let me know.

Let me ask you.

Segregation wasn't allowed to go to the same store.

It's not a faraway thing.

So did our family.

So we're Italian.

So we're Irish.

Okay.

I mean, look, there's other races that get benefits.

Bro, everybody.

You get paid

big money.

Let's like still do that.

Hold on, stop.

Every culture that exists at some point in time was held in slavery bondage every one of them correct but because

americans were dealing with american

history hold on hold on

so so if america was founded founded on the ideals that all men were created equal and they weren't back then but hold on

let me make a point all right all right

we got to the point where a civil war okay

in the civil war do you know who died who who died the most to free the slaves probably white people.

Fucking right, bro.

I love them.

My house.

You don't need a cookie for that.

Hold on.

Do you know who was fighting to keep them, though?

It was a lot of black people, too.

Not only that, hold on.

Wait, I'll make a point.

I live, when you come to my, you haven't been to my house.

Yeah, we'll go after it.

We're going to go after.

Where I live,

Ulysses S.

Grant used to have a house there.

Okay.

Ulysses S.

Grant was white.

He was the 18th president of the United States.

The reason that he became president of the United States was because during the Civil War, he was literally one of the generals who went to the fucking plantations and killed the slave owners himself and freed the slaves.

All right.

And he started the party called the Radical Republicans.

Okay.

The Republican Party has been anti-slavery and anti-fucking segregation forever.

All right.

That was the whole premise of the fucking party.

When

this happened in the Civil War and hundreds of thousands of fucking, how many people died in the Civil War?

No, a shit ton.

Look it up.

You got computer.

Millions.

And they were mostly white.

Okay.

Where does that fly?

Do we forget about that?

That that happened?

No, it just doesn't change the fact that it's still once the Civil War ended, it wasn't like racism ended or that like racism will never end.

Well, it wasn't like things were equal.

620,000.

Okay, 620,000 fucking, mostly white people.

That is never talked about.

It's never acknowledged.

It's never...

I think it's acknowledged.

It's very acknowledged.

Yeah, I think that's it.

You might acknowledge it, but it's not.

I mean, that's a good point.

But my point is, so this leads into the question I ask of what the expiration date is and where the

question of

how long do you think since that Civil War ended, things became equal?

When did it become equal?

I don't think things are equal.

Okay.

All right, then.

Same thing.

I don't think that's equal.

That's policy, bro.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

No, it's fine.

no, no, no, no.

You didn't let me finish what I'm saying.

They're equal.

You didn't finish what I'm saying.

But like, super unequal.

No, no, no.

Things aren't equal.

They're never going to be equal.

That's a fallacy.

Fucking ever for anybody.

Ever.

I have a lot of white friends who were fucking, who came in way better situations.

I have a lot of white friends that I was born into a better situation.

Yeah.

Same for you.

Yeah.

Do you have black friends that were born in better?

Yeah, absolutely.

Do you have black friends that were born worse?

Absolutely.

Okay.

so the idea, the whole idea that there will ever be equal outcome is fucking not real.

Yeah, okay, I agree, but we're going to try to make things fair because, okay, that's what we do as a leader.

Okay, like I agree with that.

Yeah, that's what we should.

We should be fair.

Yeah, and fair is it.

Hold on, is it fair to say in that 2025,

okay, that

we do not have a much better system than we had in 1776.

I completely disagree.

You don't think I was a slave, you would own me right now.

I wouldn't even be allowed to talk.

I'm saying the opposite.

Wait, wait, what?

I'm saying

in 2025, are we not better, more equal now?

What?

No, fuck, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No shit.

Do you think I'm fucking retarded, bro?

I was like, what?

No.

I don't expect that from DJ, but

I'm saying in 2020, okay,

the bottom line of what I'm trying to get at is this.

At the end of the day, personal responsibility drives outcome.

I agree with that.

Okay.

And if we continue to tear open this wound of how unfair it has been,

we are victimizing the people today to believe that they cannot be successful.

This is a big problem that happens in our schools right now.

Little white kids are told you're racist because you're fucking white.

And little black kids are told you can't do shit because you're fucking black.

What does that do to them over the course of their life?

I think that probably happens more at home than

that.

But no, I get what you're saying.

That's what either pressure.

I think otherwise we're on the same page.

I disagree with that message.

I want to say this because that's my whole piece, right?

Like I look at

the equation for success, right?

To me, like...

Do you think it's right?

Let me say this.

Because I've been around Andy for five going on six years.

I understand

the equation for success, right?

And for me and what my family is trying to do, I'm trying to break generational curses.

You call all of that.

For me, white privilege, black privilege, any of that stuff, it does not go into the equation, period.

At this point in time.

At this point in time.

To become successful.

At this point, because here's the thing.

Success.

does not give a fuck what color you are, where you came from, how hard it was.

It doesn't, that's not in that equation.

It's not look, and so for my daughter, right?

Like, I want my daughter to be successful.

I want her to be successful.

I'm not going to go to my daughter and tell her, hey, babe, listen, like, you know, she's in private school.

Yeah.

She goes to private school.

Mom, stay-at-home wife, right?

Like, like, she's, she's going to, but, but guess what, babe?

That white privilege that's out there, it's going to hold you back no matter how hard you try.

Like, so

it comes in this, like, because I think we all agree there.

Like, I don't know if you can.

I tell my daughter that.

Listen, let me give you a little.

Let me go one, and then I'll come come back in there.

No one believes in more than that than me.

Like, I hate a fucking victim story.

Like, I hate the bitch shit.

Like, like, like, I don't believe in any of that shit.

Like, success is there.

Like, no excuses.

That's what I believe in.

I think it comes down to now that I'm giving, right, in a position to give, thank God.

I acknowledge that I worked my ass out for it.

I also acknowledge luck that there were some things I was born into with my privilege that I got into.

Now, I had a choice.

Well, that's what I said.

I said privilege exists.

It's not just right.

But I have a choice.

I can go, I can donate my million bucks for my boys and girls club to wherever I want.

So I could have done it in like Scripps Ranch and Carlsbad, right?

Like where it's the really nice, predominantly white happens to be, predominantly white areas, or I could do it in Southeast San Diego, where it is minority primarily, etc.

I chose to go there not because I'm racist, because that group needs to be that's the need.

Yeah, that's the need.

That's the need.

Correct.

And that, and so I just don't.

That's okay.

Now, now, it doesn't make you racist.

I don't fucking.

No, no, no, listen, listen, 100%.

This is where I want more conversation, or I think, you know, sometimes the elements.

This is a great talk.

This is a great conversation for sure.

But I just, like, I like what you said is because that's the need.

And I think sometimes groups feel like

people don't think there's a need.

And there is a need.

Oh, you're saying like they pretend like it's not real.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, all you got to do is the only thing that's annoying to me is like,

but see, here's the thing.

So there is a fucking double standard there.

Right.

Because,

yes, you go down to fucking downtown downtown St.

Louis, bro.

I mean, there's a fucking knee.

I can show you some knee.

I'll show you,

but I will also take you 20 minutes out this way, and we will go to the fucking trailer parks, and you will tell me, it does not look any different.

It's just, it's just the color of the people.

And listen, and that's why it's like, look,

we need help on all sides, right?

But it's just, I just don't think anybody

should be neglected at some point in time.

For us, okay.

Well, that's going away because everybody's fucking each other.

There's not going to be any white kids anyway.

That's a whole different fucking conversation.

We're all going to look the same anyway.

That's a whole different conversation because that is engineered intentionally to eliminate fucking.

Here's the reality, dude.

Everybody is going to be mixed.

That's real.

That's real.

But here's another thing.

White people, okay.

Can you say you're proud to be black?

Yeah, you can say you're proud to be white, too.

No, I can't.

No, I can.

You can't say power.

Well, first of all, it's not.

Well, first of all, let me tell you something.

There's a difference because

I've never been able to socially accepted, be socially accepted saying that.

Sure.

Okay.

Latino people can say Latino pride.

Black people could say black pride.

White people say white pride.

Oh boy.

It's a big fucking problem.

Here's the catch-up.

Okay.

Not enough.

I'm going to make a point.

No, hold on.

Let me make a point.

You're winning in life, Andy.

You and I are winning in life.

I can't say a lot of things because we're winning my life.

I can say whatever the fuck I want.

But my point here, my point on this is that

because I've never been able to fucking think like that, and I've been told that my identity is not in my race, okay?

I don't have racial, I don't look at fucking white people and be like, oh, yeah, they're like me, and I'm fucking proud to be at all.

Like, I don't even think that way.

And so then culture tells white people they're fucking racist on top of it.

It's like, the fuck you talking about, dude?

Like,

I've never been.

So there's multiple sides of this equation.

And here's the bottom line, bro.

If we're going to be what America says that it should be, at some point, okay, if you fall down where we're walking out and you fucking skin your elbow and it's bleeding, what happens after a day or two?

I'm pink.

No, no, no.

Well, what happens?

Okay.

A fucking scab forms.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

And if we continue, every time that scab starts to get better, we peel it the fuck off.

It never heals.

This is good.

Here's my point.

My point is this.

There has to be, and I don't think that what you said, I really honestly don't.

I don't think that anything you said is actually wrong.

I don't think anything he said is.

And vice versa.

And I don't think I said that wrong.

He's afraid everybody takes acknowledged privilege, but everybody else is saying.

No,

look,

but at some point, the men of this country have to stop tearing the wound open so that it can fucking heal.

And that's the truth.

So question, wait, hold on.

Let me ask you both this, because this is a question for both of you.

Now, with that inside and thinking about what you said earlier, which I agree with with the government, it's like, yo, we need to get rid of all that shit.

And Trump comes in and he's like, let's fucking delete it all because it's bullshit.

Would you be opposed

because of it is time to move forward?

If Trump comes out and he goes, you know what, it is time to move forward.

There was some fucked up shit in the country.

It was this idea to make America great, but it was just for white men.

But we all know that it needs to be for every man, every woman, doesn't matter your fucking color.

And he rips up the Constitution and he burns the fucking flag and starts a brand new one.

I don't think that's...

Yes, I would be opposed to that.

Yeah, I'd be opposed to that.

Here's why that is.

I'm curious, though.

Here's why.

Here's why.

Could you understand why I wouldn't be super excited about the flag, though?

No.

Not at this point.

No.

But here's what I will say, bro.

Here's what I will say.

And bro, you know I love you, dude.

Like, and I actually really appreciate that you have your opinions and actually back them up with a fucking argument and not just say stupid ass shit.

I believe

that the idea of, like, when I say, hey, man, I'm a fucking patriot.

I am not saying that I am a fucking fan of the way shit is now.

What I'm saying is I'm a fan of the way that it was designed to be.

And America has never lived up.

This is what I think needs to be said.

America has never lived up to what it was designed to be from the start.

And if we actually took what it was designed to be from the start and actually applied that right now,

we'd have the best fucking thing ever.

I agree.

With that asterisk of just saying, how is it designed to be for all people?

Because it wasn't designed to be for all people.

If it was designed to be for all people, then I'm with that.

No, no, no.

You know what I mean?

Back then, it said all men are created equal.

They did not.

But your vote's three-fifths.

I I understand this.

I understand this.

What I'm saying is, is you took the same document and you apply it today and you actually fucking lived by that.

We'd have the perfect fucking country.

The problem is, just like many businesses, that there was a business plan that nobody fucking followed the right way.

Okay.

So I

would not,

I think that the answer is not, okay, if we have a problem in business, right?

Let's say you and I are business partners and we make this plan and we say, fuck, the business isn't working.

Well, what's the first thing we should do?

We should look and see if we're following the fucking plan.

We haven't followed the plan.

We don't just tear up the plan.

We audit ourselves.

Are we following the system?

Sure.

Okay.

And the audit of America over the course of the last 200 years is, in my opinion, that while it has gotten better, we have never actually lived to the system that was designed to be.

And so I think that if we actually started applying what it was supposed to be in reality, the way all men are created equal, and all of these other things, I think we end up with the perfect product.

We just have a bunch of people, as you said, who have gotten into power and utilized it for their own benefit.

And I do think that it would be, I think it's very important to acknowledge that there has been massive amounts of progress that have happened over the course of this time.

And we are much closer to what it should be at this point

culturally.

But I believe that we are much further away from a leadership standpoint where these guys have started to create a system that pretends to be free that actually isn't free.

And I really think that we would all do ourselves a service at you as a black man, me as

not white man, but a white man, okay,

to lead people to unity.

so that we can understand that it's not us that's fucking it up for each other.

It's those motherfuckers up there that are constantly telling us you're this you're that and then while at the same time we're fighting they're stealing our money bro they're stealing it all i think that's so so i don't think that the answer is to tear it up

but like i would tell you from a symbolism i think the answer i think the answer is to take the fucking tyrants and put their fucking heads on some fucking stakes and make sure that no one ever does that again that's what i think yeah i i think i think that's well put and i

i just think as a

you have sensitivities about it Yeah, well, no,

but you got to understand, I do too.

Yeah.

Because there's flip sides to it.

Yeah, I think, I mean, yeah, for sure, right?

Like, I mean,

I think.

But none of that shit identify.

It's not my identity.

No, it's not my.

Look, it's not going to

stop me from doing what I want to do.

I just think like for America to be unified, right?

And if we are, because you're bringing up a good point of like, when does it end?

When does it stop?

To me, I think we end those docks, end those processes, and create a a new one.

Like, I think that's how it would end.

It's like, hey, this is kind of a symbol.

Well, could you make a better system than that one?

It was on, I mean, maybe, and maybe we rewrite it in different words, just a sign of symbolism of like, yo, we're acknowledging that this was shit is kind of fucked and moving forward.

Well, I bring this up because I come back full circle with, you know, like, I had a friend of mine, and she was really taken back at like, now, mind you, I pledge allegiance and I stand up for the flag, but also in the same stand, I can respect somebody who doesn't, if you look at the history and see what everything that would happen, like it wouldn't make sense for them to stand.

And so I just think it would be an ideas, or maybe those stand and there's just a new additional doc, like a new declaration.

I think it, the whole thing is fucked and we do need new,

but I see a lot of backlash when people

don't just bend the knee to the old documents, the old constitution, all these things that were written at a time.

Why do you think that is?

Because they're protecting their own

Do you think it could be something else?

Like, for example, like, I don't know, like my grandfather being killed

in World War II after fighting on fucking D-Day and never meeting my dad?

Yeah.

I mean,

do you think that that's, do you think that, you know, me growing up without a grandfather and my dad growing up without a dad would, in the name of, of fucking, what this country is supposed to be would make me feel a certain way when people don't stand for the flag?

100%.

But just like that that same passion you can also see how somebody else's dad and grandpa was killed because of it and i think that's the hard part is it's both sides you're not wrong neither is john doe who's you know or my my ancestors who were killed because we're not wrong i just think we're here and i'm just a fan of everybody kind of understanding everybody's perspective like i'm i would hope that the comment here is

i think this is a healthy conversation both sides have really good perspectives.

Let's grow together.

But you're not, you're going to have comments, and someone's going to be like, they're super fucking far right and they're racist.

And he's a left art.

No, no, no.

I don't think our people.

No, no, no.

Our people are very centered.

Okay, good.

Then I hope people can see that we're all on the same page.

Of course, they can't.

That's my biggest point, bro.

I think what it comes down to, we talk about expiration of it.

The problems that we have in this country, they're not black problems.

They're not white problems.

They're American problems.

And I think the moment that Americans start realizing, hey, we're all on the same fucking team here, and start looking at all of our separate needs and stop looking at them as separate needs.

No, like the poverty that's in fucking downtown St.

Louis, that's all our problems.

I agree with that.

The poverty that's out there in fucking, you know, South County is the same thing.

That's the most unified you've sounded.

Well, I mean, but like, listen, but like, that, but I feel that that is my belief.

You know what I'm saying?

And I think the problem is, like, when we constantly try to, oh, well, this is a black issue.

Oh, well, they got their white privilege.

This is a white issue.

No, bro.

Like, the moment we can all address it together and like, hey, these are all of our problems.

We have to solve all of these problems.

That's when we move past the expiration.

Dude, I agree with that.

That's when we're talking about the people who are saying that you can't call people racist for pointing out the fucking problem.

That's what I'm saying.

But again, if we all own.

Well, then with Andy, with that, just they need to state the whole problem.

Right.

Like, I think state the problem, because you're right.

The data is the data at this point.

But to anyone's going to be sensitive.

Well, I don't think people like hearing the truth about the whole problem, but anyone's going to be sensitive about

the problem if you don't say the how and why.

So, for example, if you walked into me and let's just say I punched my boy Paul and you're like, Well, you guys just punched, etc., and I didn't tell you, yo, he just literally killed three people in the other room, you'd be like, I'd be so fucking mad because I'd be like, You didn't understand why, like, it needs to, there needs to be acknowledgement of listening.

I don't buy, I don't buy, listen here, I don't buy in to

the black community being statistically ultra-violent compared to the white community

for what happened fucking 300 years ago.

I don't buy into that.

Yeah, it's economics.

It's economics.

No, I don't think it is.

I think it's fucking, I think it's, I think it's.

It's low-income places.

Is it?

Hold on, is it?

It is.

No, it's not.

Because the murder rate is not the same in white poverty places.

Yeah, it's not the same.

Yeah.

And the thing is, I think that's the other thing.

And then we'll say, well, it's the culture.

They listen to rap music.

Well, no, it's not because lots of white people listen to fucking rap music.

So what what do you

don't know but i think we need to figure it the out and that's the thing it's like i think you know specifically like like black community bro like we have an accountability issue i think so too i think i think that's the biggest thing it's like you know when little tyrone kills little jj

it's okay we'll put up make make the t-shirt also who says that what do you mean like who's who says it's okay and like i i think

it doesn't exist most people agree with that but we don't call it out we don't call it out billy here's an example bro i was a police officer right like i've seen death I've seen murders, right?

You know, like when little JJ gets killed in the block, right?

And you go knocking on doors.

Anybody see anything?

No, I ain't see shit.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, that's a problem.

I agree.

That's a problem.

And I think we have a massive accountability issue within the black culture, bro.

And it's like, it's a tough thing because nobody wants to talk about it.

Well, here, I can tell you.

There's a big difference.

I think that's fair.

That's a real difference.

Because, dude,

in white culture, if some fucking, like in my family, dude.

When Johnny does some dumbness, they'll be like, that guy's a fucking idiot.

Johnny did some dude.

Fuck that guy.

He's right down here.

He deserves to be in prison.

Everything you guys just said there is okay.

It's just when you do that and then also not acknowledge white privilege, it just is harder to hear.

But what does white privilege have?

It doesn't.

But my point is.

What's the hardest thing to hear?

Not putting those two things together.

It's the hardest thing to hear.

But I'm saying is, though, just from listeners, being leaders with voices, et cetera, when one side is just saying one thing, that's where the labels come.

That's where people go, oh, DJ is racist or he's being an Uncle Tom, is because you just got to say both sides is because then if you can say both sides then you go he's right there is an accountability just like if you're sitting two people down and if you only say the one thing old boy does this person's gonna feel the type of way so i think it's just continue the conversation like we're having here i think everybody i think everybody has to be held to the same standard that's it yeah like we can't have special stand

When we start making special standards for some people and other people, then we create resentment, which creates more bias.

So if we're going to fix it, everybody has to be held to the same standard.

Everybody has to be held to the standard of their own personal actions.

And we have to say, what happened fucking back then,

that's not what caused you.

Like right now, okay, let's take it away from race.

Okay, let's take it to another.

There's another thing that's happening now that's very similar.

This person killed four people because he had depression or he had mental.

I don't give a fuck.

I don't give a fuck if you were depressed.

I don't care that you were having gender dysmorphia.

You kill four motherfuckers.

You go to jail.

Like, that's it.

And so, like, dude, now we just covered this on the show last week.

Some dude,

what was the example?

With the mental health.

The, uh, oh, shit.

This guy killed somebody or did something and he was like, oh, he was suffering.

Yeah, they released this guy.

So, yeah, the fucking.

Oh, he bombed the fucking Tesla place.

Yeah.

So there was a guy, white dude, right?

Yeah, white dude.

White kid.

He said bombing.

I knew.

Yeah, that's right.

That's fucking right.

That's fair.

That's fair.

See, this is the way it should be handled, bro.

That's fucking fair.

So anyway, this fucking white dude fucking bombs a Tesla, and then he gets let out because he claims that he's having mental health problems.

That's bullshit.

Yeah, that's bullshit.

I don't think you should be able to use any kind of excuse in anything.

Look, I'm on the other side.

I think there should be harsh punishments for stupid shit.

Bro, I think we should go to fucking, I think we should be cutting people's hands off, putting them in the fucking woodchuck.

I actually believe that.

Yeah, because it would stop it.

It would stop it.

It literally, like, stop it immediately.

It would stop it.

It's like Singapore.

You hear, like, oh, if you if you put how many times do I talk about Singapore?

I'm like, let me tell you, when I think about going to Singapore, the only thing I know, I'm not touching fucking gum.

Yeah, I'm not even going to chew it.

Yeah, because they'll fucking pull.

You need gum.

They'll pull your pants down in public and beat your ass.

100%.

Like, in front of everybody.

Yeah, I'm actually.

Yeah, I think that's it.

So let's start doing that and we'll fix all the problems.

Facts, yeah.

Cut heads off, cut hands off.

I don't disagree.

Cain, embarrassed.

Shame fixes a lot of things.

It does.

So the bottom line, the bottom line is, here's the reality.

I don't think you're wrong.

I don't think I'm wrong either.

I think we fucking, but I don't think that these things are within our control other than what the example is that we set now following.

What I think is leaders, it's a good conversation to have.

I think it's like if someone took away just one additional perspective on all sides, cool.

I think that helps, right?

oh dude look you know

i'm still going to make fun of you yeah and same

yeah yeah yeah yeah like

yeah i will get my tap dancing shoes yeah i mean he gets it the worst bro because like you know the uncle tom yeah but like honestly how does that make you feel because that's pretty i mean dude

i mean i've been on i've been on that wagon for like five years now because again like

you know most people they try to they they don't know my past bro they don't they don't know that i taught uh in inner city schools they don't know that i've coached youth i've sat on the board of directors you young as hell have been done a lot of dj

i've done a lot but like they don't see that they don't see that i think like the truth of the it's all good like the

matter is bro i don't think you can find somebody that cares more about the black community i get well i care a ton right and i think what it comes down to again is like it's that that's the end goal and we may get there differently but like the end goal is like there's some things we gotta fix yeah yeah for sure you know what i'm saying and not addressing them ain't gonna fix them or just blaming the other side ain't gonna fucking fix it i agree with that Like, we got, like, there's problems that we have to fucking address.

And I want the best for everybody.

You know what I'm saying?

And I don't look at shit uniquely.

I don't think it's uniquely these problems or these people problem.

No, bro, we all got to fix it, man.

Yeah, like, I think the best thing that anybody can do if you are experiencing any kind of racism, prejudice, whatever, is just move on and get rich.

Get really successful.

No, shit.

And make the change that you want to see.

Because, like, you know what I don't like is there's this old saying that you guys see every single election year, and it's this: it's vote everybody says get out and vote the truth is

run you really want change run well the only the only the only you know it's like like the conversation is vote and then they get you or introduce their apple juice or like that's not a choice or do what the constitution says that we should do

and have a duty to do is to overthrow tyrannical government that too that's a fact no

listen we have failed our American people have failed their responsibility to keep the government in check.

Period.

That's it.

And whether that is, however, that needs to be solved, it needs to be solved.

And, you know, that's why I'm on the fucking list, because I will openly say that.

It says in our fucking preamble, it says that we as American citizens have a responsibility to keep our government in fucking check.

We also have a responsibility to overthrow them if they get too.

And we have our fathers and the people before them have allowed these people to rape and pillage us financially, enslave us financially, and make it hard for all of us.

And now what they're doing is they're telling

in public school policy,

they have started to start the division at fucking two years old.

When I was in preschool and grade school, at least they told us like, hey, you guys are all the same.

They don't tell them that anymore.

You know what I'm saying?

And like, dude, I'm just so sick.

Like, dude, how hard do you work?

You work hard.

You work hard as fuck.

How is it okay for them to take more than half of your money and then fuck and then fuck?

It's not okay.

No, it's not.

That's not okay, man.

The money that they're taking, you know, that's supposed to be going to need

to give more.

How much

that's what I'm saying.

Well, how much more money would you like?

So, and then they use it against the, they make everybody hate people like me and you because they say, well, all they're going to do is keep the money.

That's actually, that actually makes no sense.

Because if you were to say that the reason

that

I'm successful is because I'm greedy.

And you were to say we tax him because if he's greedy, he's just going to make more money.

Well, to make more fucking money, I had to create more jobs, dumb fuck.

Okay, so I actually have to do more good.

The greed and capitalism, if you actually fucking believe that, actually is what creates the fucking economy.

So, like,

it's either one or the other.

What's sad about what you're saying is you're correct, but because people won't be in our shoes, they don't get it.

They're never going to get it.

Yeah, I know.

It's almost like, okay, that's why we'll live our lives easily.

Well, but my point is, is that they intentionally stoke that fire so they don't fucking figure it out.

The bottom line is this, bro.

We are at a place in time where,

I don't know.

I mean, I feel like

I don't know.

I personally feel responsible to

at least try to fix what the fuck's going on.

Now, the only way I know how to do that is by changing the culture.

And I'm a pretty good culture guy.

Would you ever run for office?

No, I don't think so because the truth of the matter is, is that I believe that my strength is in developing culture.

And I think that if we can get people to understand

that if they become excellent and they

become wealthy and they become healthy and they become good people and intelligent people, that by default creates a cultural revolution.

And if the cultural revolution demands that,

the government will fucking fall in line.

So politics is downstream from culture.

So my answer to that is I feel like I can do more good here than I can there.

I mean, if you look at Trump, Trump is getting blocked and this or that, you know, and like same thing when whoever's in office.

They deal with, there's no way to get anything done.

And the only way we as American citizens can fix anything is by taking responsibility for our own lives, our own wealth, our own thoughts,

you know, and do everything the opposite of what they want us to do because everything that they want us to do is for the benefit of them and not for the benefit of us.

I have a

tagline that I like to always say, and this is to the world, I don't care what color you are, and that is get off your fucking knees.

And what I mean by that is one thing I'll never do is beg for anybody's approval, beg for anything.

And what I see, like, just take a big example, like, you know, the fucking Oscars or shit like this.

You see people up in arms.

They didn't give us a Grammy.

They didn't give us an Oscar.

Go make your own motherfucking Oscar.

Not only that.

Right.

Like, how about this?

Get fucking better.

Like, yeah, like, get better, but like, also, like, you don't need the approval for fucking anyone, anything.

Go make it.

If you want something, go make it.

Like, literally go fucking make it.

You live by that.

I live by that too bro like I like you know how many times I've been told no you know how many times I've been told I'm fucking stupid you know many times I told I was never gonna be able to do any of the shit that I've done I don't fuck like that's normal for me like I don't

watch me huh watch me yeah watch me like what the fuck like that's because then if they see you do it and they know you and they grew up with you And if they know that Andy could do it, that they can do it too, they have to deal with the harsh truth.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, mean, look, man.

It's real, man.

At the end of the day,

you know, we're always going to have problems.

And I think that

the men of our generation have an obligation, this is my view,

to stop tearing open the fucking wounds that they want us to talk about and fight about and start getting everything fucking aligned so that we can't be taken advantage of as a whole.

And

I think the more that we argue about race, well, and discussion and discussing and arguing are two different things.

Yeah.

When there can be reasonable conversation and it would be no different than talking about fucking the sports game.

This could have happened or that could have happened.

All we can deal with is what the fuck is.

And what it is, is that for us to ever have our country back, people that look like you and people that look like me are going to have to figure out how to get along.

Because the number one way that we are taking advantage of is along that line.

I agree with that.

And through that line, everything else is accomplished.

Yeah, that's right.

The minute that white culture and black culture start to get, I know y'all say we don't have a culture, but we do.

No, we do.

No, we do.

All right.

But the minute

John sees it.

That's his fucking line, bro.

So, so the minute, though, that we all get along and figure out that it's them causing this shit, they are fucking done.

And dude, that's why I care so much about the conversation.

I hate race baiters.

I hate antagonistic people along those lines that consistently tear that wound open so that it can never,

they do that so that we never fucking figure out how bad they are taking advantage of us.

You give them a greater enemy, right?

That's right, man.

So, anyway.

This has been a great convo.

Yeah, we're going to have to wrap it up here.

How long have we been going?

We've been going.

310.

Yeah.

No shit.

Yeah.

That's the longest show we've had.

Oh, yeah.

It was good, though.

I feel like all the topics were.

Fucking right, bro.

It was awesome.

It was important.

Yeah.

Bro, listen.

We are going to.

What?

Well, I was going to just finish off.

Stop complaining.

Go work.

Learn AI.

Get rich.

Change the world.

Yeah.

Don't be racist.

Don't be racist.

But make racist jokes.

That's correct.

I think that is the form of the racist jokes heal.

They're the best.

Yes.

Yeah.

For sure.

That's it, man.

But yeah, so let's wrap it up with a final segment of the show, guys.

As always, thumbs up to dumb as fuck.

We bring a headline in, we talk about it.

It'll get one of those two options.

So with that being said, a thumbs up or dumb as fuck headline reads, going viral, woman arrested after police find pet raccoon in driver's seat with crack pipe in its mouth during traffic stop.

All right, let's have a racist guess here.

So, white or black.

Hold on.

Are we playing white or black?

Because that's a better game.

Raccoon with a crack.

Where was it at?

Raccoon with a crackpipe.

I mean, that sounds the raccoon says white, crack says black.

Mixed.

Mixed.

That's your people, DJ.

No, this was white girl dating dating a black guy.

Thank you.

Okay, all right.

Thank you.

All right.

All right.

Well,

that's actually a pretty good guess.

That's kind of solid.

All right.

But

is she a big one or a little'in?

Is she what?

Is she big?

Oh, she's definitely big.

Yeah, a lot of ass.

All right, well,

let's dive into it.

Lot of ass.

An Ohio woman was arrested after police in Springfield Township found a raccoon with a crack pipe in its mouth during a traffic stop.

55-year-old Victoria Vidal of Akron, Ohio, was arrested on Monday and charged with F3 possession of drugs, three counts of possession of drug paraphernalia, ABC News reported.

The police officer was in absolute disbelief as he discovered a pet raccoon named Chewy holding the meth pipe.

With Tyrone in the driver's seat.

In the passenger seat.

Let's check this clip out.

Hello.

The raccoon has her meth pipe.

Oh, my God.

As what?

Oh, my God.

Her meth pipe.

He's playing with the meth pipe right now.

No, don't reach for it.

That's evidence now.

I don't want him to act.

Well, that's why I'm going to do it.

Hey, buddy.

Huh?

It's okay.

Is that the lady there?

You're on a tip here in two minutes.

She's only 55.

That's meth, bro.

Yeah, this is her, but she's smoking methane.

Okay.

The raccoon's playing with her mouth pipe.

She's mad about it.

Oh, there's no way.

He's trying to smoke it.

All right.

I

All right.

All right.

Enough fun in games.

You're going to jail.

In games?

Oh, my God.

Holy heaven.

Okay, so she was white.

But she didn't have ass.

She didn't have ass.

Oh, she did.

We all missed.

Yeah, we did.

Look, that raccoon was trying to take a trip.

That looks like she's pretty.

Bro, that lady's only 55.

That lady looks 155.

More.

Drugs are bad.

Don't do drugs.

Do you bad?

Drugs are bad.

Yeah.

If you do do drugs, don't do meth.

She's charging with the raccoon.

What we got on this thumbs up.

Dumb as fuck.

What do we got?

I got, you know.

Dumb as fuck.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's thumbs up on the cop.

He was having a good time.

That's true.

I mean, bro, I couldn't imagine saying that, like, seeing that in person.

Like, there's a raccoon.

She kind of smoked a method.

I mean, how did the raccoon get in the car?

That means this is her pet raccoon.

She let the raccoon in the car.

And it's something they regularly do, the way the raccoon's going back for it.

It is Ohio.

All right.

Thumbs up.

Bro,

have you ever seen like this?

Do you guys got raccoons out there?

Yeah, we have raccoons.

Bro, we got big ones here, bro.

Like, they can let themselves.

They're like violet.

Yeah, they can let themselves into a door.

Like, they can open doors and shit.

Oh, see, ours aren't trained like that.

We ain't there yet.

All right.

Thumbs up.

All right.

Well, guys, Andy Billy.

That's all I got.

Hey, bro.

Thanks for coming out, man.

Fucking great shows.

Yeah, I mean, this is good.

I mean,

it's important.

Yeah.

Like, you know, fun fact.

This is probably Paul, the only second podcast I've done this year, and I've been just on a no-tear.

But the reason why I did it is because, one, I think 75R is so fucking important.

It was so,

you know, impactful for me, just getting my shit back in the game and just what it's doing for people.

You know, you know what I did is I went in the Facebook group.

And it was actually the most powerful thing for me.

So I went in the Facebook group and my motivation to do it is to see everybody starting.

And, you know, day one, everyone's complaining.

And like the first week, oh, what can I do?

And I'm like, oh, my God.

I don't want to be that.

Yeah.

No shit.

It literally was my biggest motivation.

And then you see the transformation, day 25.

They're like, I was such a bitch.

Yeah.

That I was like, that's why it's.

Why do I have to do this?

Why can't I just do it this way?

Motherfucker, you can't even understand.

That's the whole reason you are where the fuck you are.

Yes.

Fucking make it easier.

No shit.

That's what you did your whole life, bitch.

100%.

Yeah.

So

it felt like, man, this is important.

And then, secondly, just like knowing your message for years,

it's a positive one.

I think it's important.

Bro, I appreciate you, man.

No, it's fucking awesome, dude.

Like,

if you live closer, I'd have you on the show every fucking day.

Just so we can argue.

We're coming back for that party.

Absolutely, bro.

Bash.

All right, dude.

Appreciate you guys.

All right, guys.

Well, don't be a hoe.

Don't be a hoe.

Share the yourself.

Bad bitch, booted swole.

Got her own bank rope.

Can't fold, that's a no.

Headshot, case close.