953. Q&AF: Managing Multiple Businesses, Becoming Undeniable & Building Vs Operating Your Business
On today’s episode, Andy answers live call-in questions on how to best manage your time between multiple businesses, how to become undeniable at your job during difficult times, and how to level up from working in the business to working on the business.
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Yeah, when we're sleeping on the floor, now my jury box froze.
Fuck up bowl, fuck a stove.
Counted millions in a cold.
Bad bitch, booted swole.
Got her own bank rope.
Can't fold, just a no.
Headshot, case close, close, close.
What is up, guys?
It's Andy for selling.
This is the show for the realists.
Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society.
And welcome to motherfucking reality.
Guys,
today
we have Q and AF.
That's where you submit the questions and we give you
the motherfucking answers.
That's right.
So DJ, tell the good people, the very fine people,
how they can submit their questions.
Yeah, what's up, Jibs?
Yeah, you guys can
email your question.
Huh?
Something I learned from Brendan.
I really don't know what it means.
Okay.
I like your jib.
Something like that.
All right.
Is that Gen Z talk?
I think so.
All right.
Or a Tylenol talk.
All right.
Tell them where they can submit their questions.
Yeah, guys.
Email these questions into askandy atandyforsella.com.
You guys can also click the link in the description below and submit your questions for a chance to call in.
Or you can leave your questions in the comments of the Q ⁇ A F videos on YouTube.
Yep.
And we'll answer them.
All right.
So if this is your first time listening, this is Q ⁇ AF, and we have shows within the show.
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Tomorrow, we're going to have CTI.
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This is where we put topics of the day up on the screen.
We speculate on what's really going on.
We make fun of these people.
And then we talk about how we, the people, have to solve these problems going on in the world.
Other times we have Real Talk.
Real Talk is just five to 20 minutes of me giving you some real talk.
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That's where people who have completed the 75 Hard Program come on the show.
They talk about how they were before, how they are now, and how they use the 75 Hard program to completely transform their life.
If you're unfamiliar with 75 Hard, it is the initial phase of the Live Hard program, and it is available for free at episode 208 on the audio feed only.
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What's up?
What's going on, man?
Nothing.
Yeah.
What is that?
That is the tower of power.
The tower of what power?
What?
Freedom power.
Freedom power.
That's right.
Now, I noticed that you
only have three of the flavors over there.
I do have only three of the flavors.
And I have only one of the flavors.
The key to your happiness.
Thanos.
thanos going on and do you know how i got these
you stole them i stole them why do you seem so happy about because i learned
i learned everything uh-huh
about stealing from you
yeah
and i just want to say thank you bro i just you know it's actually it's funny you brought that up because i i do think i think i think we should talk about this because you know
i've been with you for six years now man you know and it's like every time you look for something you immediately come to me like where is it at motherfucker Yeah.
You know, like, what is that?
Can we?
Man, where's my lighter?
You got my fucking light, bro.
I don't have your lighter, man.
Well, I didn't do that.
Cigars.
You did the cigars.
You got my cigars.
I don't have your cigars, bro.
I was confused.
Okay.
I was tired, man.
I talked to 5,000 people.
Yeah, I was tired, too.
I was tired.
Yeah, that's fine.
All right.
You talked to 5,000 people, too.
You didn't remember where they were either.
I didn't.
Yeah.
I didn't.
It took me a second.
Yeah.
It took me a second.
Anyway.
But yeah, Tower of Power.
tower of power for dollar days for dollar days still rolling 7-eleven we have three more days left that's it all right now guys
you guys have been kicking ass for us and uh it's it's been incredible i just want to say thank you so much for everything that you guys are doing and supporting this uh initiative with 7-eleven um we have three days left man and uh we got to figure out who the king of 7-eleven dollar Days is going to be.
I think there's going to be multiple kings.
I think so.
Yeah.
You see people getting out there.
All the different realms.
Yes.
Maybe even an emperor.
Well, I mean, so you think about this.
We've done LA last week.
We did Tampa last week.
Yeah, we might have a surprise this week.
Tomorrow, maybe?
We might have a surprise this week.
Tomorrow?
Yeah, maybe.
We might be somewhere else.
Okay.
Somewhere musically.
Yeah,
somewhere musical.
We might be.
I love a good musical.
Me too.
Especially, like,
never mind.
I'm saying it.
Nope.
Nope.
So here's the deal, guys.
We got to finish this off strong.
Yeah, we do.
All right.
So
let's keep at it.
Buy one.
Share one.
All right.
The share one is very important, all right?
Because we're getting the product out in other people's hands.
We're stepping on the throats of some of these other people.
We all like to win, right?
Winning is more fun than fun is fun.
That's what we like to say around here.
That's a quote by my good friend, Mr.
Ed Milette, that you guys may have heard on the show.
So I just want to first of all say thank you so much, guys.
And then, you know, also ask that we finish off strong and show these motherfuckers what we're all about.
That's right.
So
buy one, share one.
A few more days.
That's it.
All right.
That's it.
So
what's going on?
Dude, it's a beautiful day.
It has been incredible seeing people get behind this.
It's been crazy.
Yeah.
It's been one of the most incredible things that I've seen in my entire entire business life.
The amount of support that everybody has been showing and how fucking cool the people have been that have come out to these events.
Yeah.
Like, dude, I just want to tell you guys, man, like,
and this is real shit.
You guys know I don't leave here very often and I kind of stay in my own little bubble.
And getting out to these events and hearing your stories, um,
it's one of the most inspiring things that I've ever, I've ever been a part of.
You know, it's one thing to have someone message you those things or it's another thing to have someone look you in the eye and with their family talking about the changes they've made and how they've gotten better and how their family's gotten better and how you know their kids are out getting into you know following around on 75 hard or whatever dude and um
just hearing that and seeing that has really done a lot for me.
I'm just being real with you guys to realize that like
because like, you know, I'm in here all the time, man.
And sometimes I wonder if like what I'm saying even gets heard at all.
And it's been a very, very,
not even good, but one of the coolest experiences of my life getting out there and meeting you guys.
And it made me feel like, you know, we're doing some good.
So I just want to say thank you guys for
sharing that with me because there's a lot of times where I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?
And it reminded me that what we do here really matters a lot.
And I really appreciate you guys showing out for these things.
Beautiful, man.
Yeah.
Absolutely awesome.
But yeah, so we got to stay on it, bro.
It is Monday, which means one thing.
Yeah.
I have three good ones for you.
I know it.
I know it.
Really good ones.
All right.
I'm so excited.
Let's make some people better.
That's right.
Let's do that.
We're going to start off.
Let's get
a call.
Let's give our good buddy Joey
a call.
Here we go.
Hello, Joey.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I got you.
Hey, what's going on, brother?
How are you?
How are you?
Not too bad, man.
Where are you calling from?
Tampa.
Tampa.
Oh, Tampa, huh?
We were just there.
What's up, Joey?
Oh, just there?
Because I just heard that you guys are coming here.
This airs on Monday.
You got to play along.
It was great meeting you, Joey.
Yeah, no, it was great meeting you guys.
No, that was awesome.
That was awesome.
I uh,
yeah, no, I've gotten to a point now, you know, where
I got the opportunity a few years ago to partner up with some guys and start a divisional office for a construction company.
Um,
and we've grown to an eight-figure company in the past three years.
And it's crazy.
It's been a crazy experience.
Yeah, that's awesome, bro.
And, you know, over the past year,
you know, it's been a challenging year for us economically, but we've been able to sustain and really get gritty and kind of blow past the rest.
And I'll be honest with you, Andy, and I attribute a lot of that to you.
You know, being able to
help me
hone myself as a leader and to be the best example for my guys, for my family, for everybody.
And, you know, I appreciate that.
That's about probably the longest thank you you've had on here, but, you know, I really can't, I can't even express like how much this means.
Well, brother, you know, I mean, look, man, I appreciate that, but,
you know, you're doing that.
That's not me, man.
I'm just trying to share with you guys the stuff that I've learned and picked up along the way.
And,
you know, you guys got to go out and do it.
So I greatly appreciate that.
But just remember, brother, that's all you, man.
You did that shit.
Yeah.
No, I understand.
No, and I get that.
What specifically are you struggling with, brother?
I just, well, I don't want to take from my current opportunity.
Like, I don't want to take, like, I invest a lot of time into this.
I mean,
I do invest a lot, but
I've got.
an opportunity to do something with and just kind of get my my kids involved in something.
And I've got one that's really kind of spearheading it behind him.
And
I want to be able to dedicate my time back and forth, but at the same time, I don't want my current opportunity to suffer.
And I know you've been able to start and
build multiple different businesses and at the same time, you know, manage and grow your other ones.
What's the some tips and some good ways that I can do this and not take from my current situation and be able to build my opportunity to the fullest extent okay
all right so
first of all dude um you got to give yourself a little more credit bro you're already doing it okay so
you know i i know as driven people we don't like to we don't like to admit how well we're doing which is kind of weird because
Most people would over-exaggerate how well they're doing.
But when you're driven and you're successful and you have that thing that you have and I have,
we tend to not give ourselves proper credit because we don't want to lose the edge of our ambition and drive.
And when we do that, it creates a scenario where we are
not as confident as we would be if we were just able to give ourselves the proper amount of credit.
So when it comes to,
you know, acknowledging our own skills and gifts and results, you always just want to tell yourself the truth.
You know, you don't want to downplay it.
You don't want to overplay it.
You want to be factual about what it is so that you can have the proper amount of confidence.
Because as you know, building anything requires real confidence.
You have to be a confident person.
And
when we don't give ourselves the proper amount of credit, that it hurts us.
So I hear that in what you're saying, and I just want you to be aware of that.
But
I struggle with it a lot.
I i struggle with being
you know the confidence to to to
to really do more i mean i i just i was never in a in an environment and i know this you know we go back to just like you know the being a victim is cool type but i mean it's i was never in an environment that was conductive to being successful yeah well it was always most
like you do this and you get you you know you get what you get out of life and this is what it is and it's never been a thing so i've i've lost almost everybody around me and it's lonely so it's like you don't really have and you don't have anything but an internal dialogue that pushes you along.
Do you want that shit back?
Fuck no.
Okay.
So then what the fuck?
I don't think anybody really that honestly feels the way that we do really wants to go back to it.
Hold on, bro.
Listen to me.
You're fucking putting value on shit that you lost that means nothing.
Those people are never on the fucking path you're going to be on.
They won't understand you.
They're not going to fucking get you.
And you just have to not worry about it, bro.
And I'll be, I i actually think you're wrong about the environment that you grew up in most people who are successful grew up in an environment exactly like the one that you were describing they didn't grow up with a silver spoon in their mouth they grew up with a bunch of motherfuckers telling them they can't do shit they grew up with a whole bunch of people who didn't do shit telling them that and because of that it's driven them and it's given them fire and it's let them have this feeling inside of fuck you i'm going to prove you wrong And I actually think the environment that you grew up in, you need to switch your perspective on and say, actually,
this is what produced me.
And because, dude, that's the truth.
Okay.
If someone grew up with the best dad and the white picket fence and the perfect family, they're so comfortable, they never have the ambition that you have.
So you should be grateful about where the fuck you come from, bro.
That's the first thing.
The second thing is, if you want to create opportunity outside of the one that you have, you have to approach it.
There's two ways to do it.
I've done it in verticals.
Okay.
So most of the companies that I own are vertically integrated and customers or vendors of each other.
All right.
Whatever it is that you do in construction.
You can start thinking about what should I do to vertically integrate?
Should I start a company that supplies me with the concrete?
Okay, should I start a company that supplies me with the steel?
Those are things to think about.
And I know those are just abstract, you know, I don't know exactly what you need to do, but you know what I'm saying.
I know what you're saying.
I know what you're saying.
Right.
And then the other thing is, is if you do have an opportunity, let's say, that is outside of the realm of verticals, you have to understand that just because you're successful at this one realm, you are not guaranteed success at this other thing.
I see lots of people ruin their lives because they're experts at one thing.
They're really fucking good.
And then they think, well, because I'm good at this one thing, everything I touch will work.
And I call it the Midas touch.
These people think that they have the Midas touch, but they don't.
And I have seen
actually most of the people I see ruin their lives start to venture outside of of their
skill set into things that they perceive are going to be great opportunities without thinking like, hey, I'm starting at kindergarten level here and I really don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
And I say all that to say this.
If this opportunity that you're talking about for putting your kids in a position
is outside the realm of what it is that you do, there are plenty of C-level operators out here that you could hire to run that operation and just have them report to you.
Okay.
So you could go out and hire, you're used to doing everything yourself.
I'm used to doing everything myself.
No one ever came to me and said, hey, you know, you could just hire a CEO and they'll run your company.
And
if they did, I didn't believe that they could run it as good as me.
But here's the thing.
They can because our skill set at CEO level is really just about
driving the brand, managing the brand, and making sure that, you know, things continue to move down the right path.
And there's plenty of people with experience and other things that that will translate to what you do with your advisement.
So you need to start thinking of yourself as more of a chairman level person than the actual builder operator of the business.
And what I would do is if you want to create something outside the realm instead of starting at zero like you're in kindergarten you you go hire someone who knows the business and yeah you're going to have to pay them a lot of money but the thing is
What you're paying for is to catch up in that expertise.
When that person has 20 years, 25 years, 30 years of doing what it is you're trying to do, and you got to pay them a million bucks a year, well that person's going to turn around and save you 30 years of lessons and that's how you have to look at it so that's going to cost fucking right bro it's it's that's cheap that's cheap a million bucks a year is cheap as to catch up for the amount of time that those guys will will catch you up yeah okay and the cool thing about this the cool thing about this opportunity is it's pretty much it's pretty well within my wheelhouse okay um and it's not really a competing business um because this is the last thing i want to do is start something competing against myself.
That's
stupid.
But, you know, it's what it is.
It's solving a problem that we really aren't chasing to fix.
It's a solution.
You know what I mean?
And
solutions are always the best, always the best way.
I mean, I preach to my guys every single day, like, be the solution.
Be the solution for the clients.
That's right.
I mean, it just, it works.
It's that simple.
Hey, we're here, you know?
So, yes, sir.
So, so you know, I just, I, I don't want to, I don't want to upset um you know the guys that have trusted me with building this brand and building the division like i have um you know and just to to to go with to go through that you know what i mean because i i put myself just like you said in a like a chairman type position now um you know like as we've grown to different size businesses i've had to pivot there's no book for that that tells you when you pivot you know so when we were when we went from zero to 10 million i was this person in the business and then when we jumped up to in the 20s i was this person and now we've jumped up higher than that now i'm a different person every different time i've had to wear different hats now i'm to the position where i just i'm behind the scenes the whole time and i just i try to advise my people with the least amount of
i don't know i i i'm just not here to do their jobs but i'm i'm here to just try to give them the best advice i can correct and you know that way everybody has some ownership and everything and you know they kind of take the take the bull by the horns they run with things
you know and and and i i just i've got some kids that have a lot of the same mentality and mindset as me.
And, you know, I want to, I want to give them an opportunity to have a piece of their own.
Well, you know, yeah, man.
Yeah, I guess I'm sort of confused on what you're asking for.
Well, what I'm, I, I, what I'm, what I'm trying to figure out is, you know, like how how do you manage your time in between businesses?
You know, how do you manage your time and say, okay, well, I can dedicate to this one and, you know, it doesn't upset you.
Just, I mean, it's just, do you develop power lists for each one of those businesses on tasks that you do.
Do you have one master power list for everything?
Yeah, I got one.
I've got one for everything.
And I do this thing.
It's called whatever the fuck it takes.
Yeah, I know.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it doesn't matter if it's midnight.
It doesn't matter if it's three in the morning.
It doesn't matter if I got to get on a plane and travel the country to meet thousands of people and put fucking, you know, asses in seats.
Whatever I got to do, I'm going to do.
And,
you know, that's the thing that we signed up for so i don't necessarily look at it as i've got to spend x amount of time here or x amount of time there or x amount of time there
i'm not in any of my businesses to for for second place
so i'm in to fucking win or i won't do it and for me
It's yes, I have one main power list logistically, and
that's how I operate.
But that power list will have items that have to do with everything that I have going on.
So
that's the one thing.
The second thing is, is I make sure, like I said, I have competent people in those positions to run those plays that I can trust, that understand what's going on.
And the third thing is, is that I make sure that I am available to my employees and that I spend time with them and that we work on.
uh you know relationships and culture through that contact so you know while you may be behind the scenes, it's very important for you to get out and shake the guys' hands, tell them thank you,
you know, make sure they understand that you care about them and all of those things, because, dude, the reality is, is that most of these people that you deal with, they don't have anybody in their life that gives a fuck about them.
Okay.
So you going out and helping them develop.
And by the way, like you said, you're letting them do their job so that they can develop themselves.
That is a great form of personal development for them.
And when they develop those skills, they will attribute those lessons to what you are allowing them to do and not do.
So,
you know,
it sounds to me, bro, like you're a little bit scared to do it because you think you're going to fuck it up, but running two businesses is really no different than running one when you have the experience.
When you don't have the experience, like all these 19-year-olds out here who believe this shit of, oh, you got to have seven streams of income to be a millionaire or whatever, right?
Like those people get killed because they don't have the experience to operate.
So they're slivering off their energy
and trying to compete with people who are in it full bore.
And this is why I highly recommend getting someone to run that division of the business who's competent.
as competent as can be with your advisement.
And I think that's how you're going to balance it out the right way because every business that I'm operating or that I'm involved in has a competent operator inside of it.
So, or two, or three, depending on, you know, how big it is.
So, that's the route I would take, bro.
When you started first form, when you started first form, you didn't just go and just kind of say, all right, well, I'm going to get down and bootstrap this and be the guy that's going to be in here doing this, that, and the other.
You, you found a competent operator and said, No, okay, we're going to partner up on this.
No, no, that's not what I did.
I started and did it all myself until I found someone that could run the business.
And then I developed that person over the course of eight years and then I handed it over to them.
And the reason that I did it that way was because the person that I found to operate the business was not a CEO from another company with experience.
It was my brother who is one of the best salespeople in the world.
but over the course of time developed the ability to become a CEO.
What I'm telling you is that if you want to hand it off immediately and get to the point where you're trying to get,
you need to go out and find a CEO with experience and plug them into that position.
This is what we're doing.
This is how we're going to do it.
This is how I want you to do it.
And he's going to say, well, that's not how the fuck it's done.
And you're going to say, well, how is it done?
And he's going to say, well, in 20 years of me doing this, it was done this and this and this and this way.
And then you're going to say, oh.
and then he's going to run the business and you're going to learn from him.
So we're saying two different things.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So I'm not telling you to hand the business off to,
you know, whoever.
I'm telling you to find someone who's competent, who can save you that eight years.
All right.
Now, I'm very proud of my brother.
He's probably the best CEO that I fucking know, but we developed those skill sets together over the course of time.
And what I'm saying is, you can collapse that time, which I didn't know at the time.
And I wouldn't have done anything any different anyway.
But I didn't know at that time that I could just hire someone to do those things.
And I thought of CEO as founder CEO only.
I didn't think of CEO as
a for-hire position.
And
these guys exist and they're out there.
And by the way, a lot of them are really fucking good.
So
if I were you,
considering what I've heard from you, you're already successful.
You're doing good business.
You have the ability to invest money into this new opportunity.
If you value your time, I would hire an experienced CEO.
I would collaborate with that CEO and advise that CEO and let them take the horns right away.
Now, if you want to to do what I did, you could take someone from your other company, you could put them in there, and you could get your ass beat for the next eight years trying to figure it the fuck out.
So, what I'm actually telling you is don't do that because it costs you valuable time.
Now, like I said, I'm very grateful that we did it that way because I end up with probably the best CEO in the fucking world, one of them.
But
took eight years.
Yes, at a minimum, bro.
So, what I'm trying to do is get you where you want to go without making
an eight-year ordeal out of it.
Yeah, for sure.
No, it makes sense.
It does.
What's your hang-up?
I mean,
I say it's capital, but it's not even capital because it's like, I figure this out.
I figure everything out.
Brother, you know, you're fucking making excuses, bro.
You need to go fucking do it.
Just go do it.
You already did, bro.
You've already done this massive thing.
You run 100 fucking plus guys.
Do you know how rare that is?
Do you know how rare it is to have a company with 100 motherfucking employees?
That's a fucking huge deal, bro.
If anybody can go out and start another business and be successful, it's somebody like you.
So there's no reason for you to hang up.
For some reason, you're hung up on this past version of yourself.
You're a fucking badass motherfucker, bro.
Nobody can do what you've done.
You got to remember that, bro.
And you've got, this is what i was talking about in the beginning of the call i know a fuck ton of business owners you know how many i know that have 100 employees not very many so you're doing great bro in fact i think you're doing exponentially better than what you think and i think this misunderstanding of how well you're doing
is costing you time to go do the other thing which is eventually something that you're going to win at too like you're already a fucking winner bro you don't think like you were like you did in the beginning where you're like, oh, I'm not sure if I can fucking do this.
Bro, look at all these people trying to run businesses and get to 100 fucking employees.
Listen,
you're ready to do this.
All you got to do is go do it.
You're telling yourself bullshit stories about why you're not going to.
And I don't mean to be rude, but I'm just telling you the fucking truth.
You know, like if you were my fucking homie, I'd be like, Joey, the fuck is wrong with you?
Go do it.
Yeah.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, what do you want?
You, you, you want me to write you a permission slip to go do it?
Like, what the fuck, bro?
Like, you've got this down.
You look, man, you're ready to do this.
I promise you.
I can hear it.
Nobody can fucking get to,
dude, you're so much better than what the fuck you think you are.
It's almost like, for me, like, almost laughable because I know what's out there.
Like, all these motherfuckers on the internet, they're all fucking lying.
They're all lying to run a real business with 100 employees.
That's fucking amazing, bro.
It's,
I
understand.
Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
Yeah, bro.
Dude, listen, I got to get to other calls, bro, because it's like 36 minutes long.
The show's an hour long.
Sorry, brother.
Yeah, it's not sorry.
It's fucking, you need to go do it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yep.
All right.
I'm serious, bro.
Yeah, you're good.
It was great meeting you, bro.
Hey, real real talk, bro.
You going to come out?
We're going to be there tomorrow or Friday.
Yeah,
I need to.
I need to.
Yeah.
I need to shake your hand.
Yeah, come out, bro.
Come fucking hang out.
Look,
dude,
you're doing so much better than you fucking think you are, bro.
You just got to snap the fuck out of that.
I know.
You're a stud, bro.
Nobody does 100 fucking employee companies.
Fucking nobody.
I look at it like it's nothing, man, and it's not enough.
Yeah, but that's because you're fucking driven.
My competition's got 1,200 and I'm just like, man, I got to get there.
Yeah, but they got to 100 and they said, you know what they said?
The reason they got 1,200?
Because they got to 100 and they said, I'm bad motherfucker.
I get 1,200.
You're getting to 100 saying, fuck, I don't know if I can do this, which means you ain't going to do it if you don't change your perspective.
So, so look, man, I'm telling you as someone who fucking coaches thousands and thousands and thousands of business owners, you're fucking doing it, dude.
For real, man.
Like, you should be fucking proud of yourself and you should walk with your shoulders back and your chin up high and say, I'm a bad motherfucker.
I'm Joey, the bad motherfucker.
That's what you should be doing.
I'm going to get you a fucking t-shirt.
It says, Joey, the bad motherfucker.
Just put Buffalo on there.
Yeah.
Fuck.
All right, brother.
Appreciate you guys, man.
Yeah, I really do.
All right, appreciate you, bro.
Hey, we'll see you.
We'll see you on Friday.
All right.
All right.
Appreciate you guys.
All right, brother.
Bro, so many people do that to themselves.
You know, they're so driven.
They're so hungry.
It's never enough.
And because it's never enough, they think they're shit.
And they think, like, what are you?
So far from that goal.
Yes.
Like, bro.
How many motherfuckers do you guys know that have a hundred employees?
Like, if someone came to me off the street and said, yeah, I got a business.
I got 100 employees.
I'd be like, holy fuck.
That's pretty fucking big.
Yeah.
Pretty big.
But I mean, dude, that's, you know, that's the, that's the fucking paradox of being driven.
You never feel like it's enough.
Successful people, people who win, people who achieve, people who the whole world sees as great always feel behind in what they're doing because their ambition is so strong and they're so driven that all they can see is what I'm trying to do, not what I've done.
And that is actually a great thing because that causes you to continue to go down the path further and further and further and further.
And while it might not be fun while you're doing it, you're going to eventually look back one day and say, motherfucker, I did that.
And you're going to be proud of it.
So we have to stop this thinking of, well, you know, I don't know, especially when you have evidence in front of your face that says, I'm fucking.
I'm good enough to do this.
Yeah, there's proof here.
Yeah.
That's put in here.
Dude, I want to ask you this too.
I think this is an important piece in this, you know, because
his main thing was like, you know, how do I balance this time between focusing on a new project while not letting this other thing suffer, right?
Nah, that's not his main thing.
His main thing is he's trying to find excuses for why the fuck he can't do it.
That's real.
Yeah.
That's real.
That's not his main thing.
His main thing is, I don't come from a good family and I've never had of this.
And you know what?
I'm not doing it because my competitors got 1,200 and I've only got 100 and I'm not good enough.
That's his main thing.
Because the fucking fucking solution to what he said is bullshit.
It's real easy.
I love it.
Yeah.
I do want to bring this up because it's something I've seen you do a lot, bro.
And I think it's an important piece just for anybody struggling with that, but just being present and intent,
you're having your intentions correct and present with whatever you're doing at the moment.
Yeah.
That's a very, very, I think that's a very important piece.
When you actually are working on business one, you are fully invested in business one.
When you turn to the task of business two, you are not now, this goes away and you're focused here.
But dude, I'm telling you, the best thing that you can do for him, because he's already got the cash flow to do it, is to hire a motherfucker that's already done what he's trying to do.
Like, how are you going?
So you're going to go to China, bro.
All right.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to fucking try to navigate your way there with a compass?
Yeah.
Because that's what they did 400 fucking years ago?
Or are you going to hire someone who's gone to China 4,000 fucking times?
Be a travel guy.
There you go.
Yes.
Like, that's what you're going to do.
Yeah.
So, and by the way, this took me forever to figure the fuck out.
I didn't know it either.
But, you know, that's how you save the time.
And I wouldn't have done it any different because now we have this amazing thing.
But for where he's at and what he's trying to do, that's the role.
That's the way to go.
Yeah.
Not everybody has the opportunity to hire someone like that.
They know with the cash flow.
He's in a position to do that.
That's why wealthy people compound their wealth.
They take their money, they invest it into things because, dude, your employees are not a fucking expense, bro.
They are an investment if you've hired them properly.
So you're going to pay this motherfucker a million bucks, but he's going to drive $50 million to your fucking top line.
That's a pretty good deal.
I'll take it.
Yeah.
I'll take it.
I love it, man.
Let's get another question in, man, guys.
Andy,
here's another question for you.
Andy,
I'm a sales rep at a well-renowned company in the construction, building, materials industry.
Due to the current economic climate, with rising costs due to tariffs and the slow housing market, the company has had a recent wave of layoffs that just occurred this month.
These layoffs have affected all areas of the company, not just the sales team.
With the future of the economy unknown, we can't really predict what the housing market will do next year.
Since I've been at the company, my territory has seen steady growth.
And even in this downturn year, I've still grown the territory to be profitable.
I feel like I'm an asset to the company, but right now, it's just hard to know what will happen in the future.
My question to you is this.
How would you go about navigating this?
We don't know if there will be additional layoffs, but what can I do day to day to continue to show that I am an undeniable asset who produces?
Everything you fucking can.
Everything you can you could sell the most shit you can be the best team player you clean the bathroom the best you could take the motherfucking trash out you could every single thing that you could possibly do you should be doing right now and it doesn't go just for this gentleman it goes for everyone because there is cuts happening everywhere not because necessarily that sales are bad but because new technology is emerging that replaces human capital as we've talked about on this show for years All right.
Now, I've tried to get everybody to understand how bad this was going to be for everybody, and everybody thought I was crazy.
But now here we are, and there's tons of layoffs happening across the spectrum.
The motherfuckers that developed AI are getting laid off, okay?
So we're in a predicament, and you, as an employee, all of you,
are in a fucking pickle.
And I'm going to tell you this, I don't give a, I don't care where you work.
I don't care.
You could work anywhere.
If you are an employee of a company right now, you need to understand
that your job either can be
or
will be able to be replaced in the near future.
And that means that if you're going to continue to be employed, you are actually going to have to perform at a much higher level than you do now.
And that is something that I urge everybody to take serious.
And if you don't take it serious, you're going to come back and you're going to say, fuck, I wish I had listened to him.
This is the time where you better show your motherfucking skill set to everyone.
And not only
should you be showing your skill set, you should be anticipating needs.
You should be taking initiative.
You should be driving people forward.
Because I'm going to tell you, if you don't, There's going to be enough skilled people out here because they're getting laid off everywhere that even if your job doesn't go away as a human asset, you will be replaced by someone who is willing to do the things that you are unwilling to do.
There is no place for coasting right now.
I'm being dead serious.
If you coast and you're one of these people who hides in the corner and pretends to work and acts like, you know, they're busy, you're going to get fucking fired.
Those days are over.
Yeah, they're over.
They're over.
Okay.
And some people just haven't realized that yet.
Yeah.
But it's going to become very apparent.
And I give this guy very much respect for recognizing that, hey, fuck, the axe is coming down, bro.
And I better figure out how to be an asset.
Bro, that's everything you can do.
You better sell the most shit.
You better.
Be the best employee.
You better drive the motherfucking culture.
You better wipe the fucking piss off the toilet seat, even if it ain't yours.
You better do everything.
And if you do everything, when that conversation comes of who we're going to cut, you're not even going to be in the conversation because they're going to say, no fucking way.
Yeah.
Joe fucking is a killer.
We got to keep him.
Yeah.
We can't even do it without him.
Right.
That's what being undeniable is about.
We cannot do it without them.
You guys think being undeniable means being pretty good?
No.
Being pretty good is being pretty good.
Being undeniable is we cannot fucking do it without them.
We cannot do it without them.
If you can position yourself to be one of those people, you will always have security.
And to be quite honest, that's going to become the new standard because everybody is going to be able to be replaced.
Everybody.
And people like what they say, oh, well, not blue collar.
No, blue collar is going to get replaced eventually too.
Because when they start doing AI and robotics, it's going to be what it is.
They already got fucking machines that fucking lay tile floors.
They already got machines that put roofs on.
How long until they have a machine that pulls the wire through a house?
Or,
I don't know, frames a house?
Or, you know, I don't know, like 3D prints a house, which they already do.
Okay.
So if you're sitting there thinking, oh, I'm fucking safe, pro.
You have no fucking idea what's going on.
No.
Andy, I want to bring this up because, I mean, I know we, this is an entrepreneur-based show, but we have a lot of entrepreneurs, man, right?
And I think, you know, you've mentioned in the past there's three real, really important skills to to have as an entrepreneur.
You can either sell, learn how to lead people.
That third one was being able to take initiative on problems.
Because I think that's going to be a really fun
skill set needed.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Initiative, there is multiple lanes of initiative that have to be had for you to become undeniable.
One is coming up with ideas,
trying to look out for the company.
If you're on a content team, making fucking amazing content without having to be told, these kind of things, okay?
Then there's initiative of
you see a problem
and you fix the problem before you actually take it to your leadership.
One of the most valuable types of employees is the person who says, hey,
let me talk to you about something.
We got a problem here.
This is blah, blah, blah.
But don't worry about it because I already solved it.
Okay.
Super valuable.
Everybody brings problems, huh?
Everybody can bring a problem.
Yeah.
Like if, dude, if you don't solve, there's three kinds of people.
There's the kind of person that brings the problem.
That person sucks.
Okay.
There's the kind of person that brings the problem but doesn't do the solution, even though they know the solution.
That person's a little bit better.
They still suck.
Then there's the third guy.
The third guy fucking identifies the problem, fixes the problem, then tells you about it.
That's the guy.
Yeah.
Okay.
People don't understand that.
A lot of success comes down to taking initiative inside of a company.
Then there's the person who
can
see a project through the entire way from start to finish by taking the initiative to do so.
That person is fucking undeniable.
You cannot operate without those people.
So like being valuable inside of a company is very easy, but we have a culture of fucking lazy fucks that have been put into you know society for the last 20 years and those people are teed up to get their fucking nuts clipped.
Okay.
So,
yeah.
I mean,
that's it.
You know, if you're
coming, man.
It's coming, bro.
It's coming for everybody.
There's, there's no stopping it now.
Okay.
Like when we talked about people need to stand up and be vocal and stand against this shit, you guys, nobody did it.
So now,
and by the way, it happened exactly like I said it was going to happen.
I said they would implement it by leveraging people's greed.
And that's what they've done.
Now they have all the tech companies.
It doesn't matter.
Here's the fucking point.
It's coming.
And it's here.
And if you don't become undeniable, there's good.
Look at what's the fucking new
Sora?
Yeah.
Okay.
Look at Sora.
You guys,
you're being replaced.
Do you not understand that?
And so many people are sticking their head in the sand being like, haha, not me.
No, you.
My boss loves me.
By the way, especially, yeah, yeah, there's no, there's no like or love now.
Okay.
Like, you have to survive.
All right.
And if a company, it's like steroids in baseball, bro.
Once someone starts hitting 70 motherfucking home runs, everybody's starting to take steroids because, dude, that guy's getting a hundred million motherfucking dollar contract, $500 million contract.
And the rest of the guys ain't getting it.
So what do you think they're going to do?
Okay.
It's the same thing with companies.
When the first company, which by the way, is already happening, starts to implement all these technologies to reduce their human capital, then everybody has to do it because if they don't, that guy, that company has so much margin in their fucking operation that they can outspend you on their customer acquisition and their branding and everything else and fucking put you out of business.
So it's no longer a matter of ethics.
The ethics went out the window when everybody fucking didn't stand up.
Now it's a matter of actually adjusting and surviving.
And because of that, those things are going to happen at every company.
It's just reality.
It's no different than when the internet came around.
It's no different than when social media came around.
Only this time, it's super dangerous for everybody that's employed.
So
there's going to be people that make it, and there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be like, fuck, I wish I had tried a little harder when I had that great opportunity to actually have a job.
I actually think a lot of it's pretty good, if I'm being honest, because
for so long, there's been so many people in American culture that have just showed up to their job and clocked the fuck in and don't do shit that
you know they feel owed.
Like, I'm owed to have this.
Yeah, and it's going to fix that.
There's now, it's going to go back to if you even have a job, you're fucking very fortunate to have it.
So, you should operate that fucking way right now.
And if you operate that way right now, you won't get cut.
That's how it's going to work.
I love it, dude.
All right, let's uh let's get another uh another call here.
We got landon give landon a call
hello hello landon what's going on bro
what up big dog hey what's going on with you brother how you doing
not too bad another day another dollar
there we go landon what's up bro it's andy what's going on man how are you brother
Not too shabby.
Where are you calling in from today?
Nebraska.
Oh, yeah?
What part?
Lincoln.
Oh, cool.
I like Lincoln.
Lincoln's a cool.
I spent quite a bit of time up there.
I like it a lot.
Oh, no, shit.
Yep.
Yep.
I sure do.
So
what can we help you with today?
Tell me a little bit about what you got going on.
So a little backstory.
Uncle owns a drywall business.
And
what?
So it's probably been, I don't know, seven years ago or so.
I was getting out of high school, and that were, I was already working for him, but I was getting out of high school and he wanted to take on doing something else.
So we started doing insulation because it is the step right before drywall, you know, so it only makes sense.
So we took that on.
And so now we do drywall and insulation.
And I've been kind of the main guy in charge of
the insulation crew and just, I mean, learning everything about it.
And we just kind of, we provide that service now to all of his builders that he had already had
and uh
yeah so i mean i've been
working my dick into the dirt and uh bro just trying to get bro you and me both
so
sorry to cut you off bro i'm just we're laughing because like we're all exhausted because we none of us slept in like three days
You're good?
Yeah.
But
yeah, I mean, I'm just trying to get to the point where like I'm not so
so involved.
Like I'm I'm the do-it-all guy, you know, I'm like, I'm on the job.
I get like everything facilitated.
I'm like literally hands-on
100% of the way.
And I'm just trying to get to the point where I can get guys trained up enough to like be able to trust them to handle the business, you know, and kind of.
step away from it a little bit and be able to handle more of like the actual business side of things and go out and like get more work and you know shit like that so you're trying to get your dick out the dirt, yeah.
Look, yeah, well, he's trying to a little bit.
I mean, I don't want to get away from work, that's the thing.
I'm not scared to work, but like, well, I just don't.
I'm tired of working
balls into the wall, like, and then dealing with a bunch of idiots, honestly.
I mean, fuck, it's just
I said, I hope the idiots don't listen to the show.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, I that's the thing.
I try to get them to listen to it, too.
And, like, like a lot of them don't really get on it, you know.
I guess
they would.
Well, that's why you're you and they're them.
I fuck, I guess.
Yeah, dude.
All right, let me help you here.
Let me help you here.
What you're talking about is something that all entrepreneurs go through.
Okay.
You're moving from working in the business to working on the business.
All right.
That's what you're describing.
And
how many guys do you have on your crew?
Right now, it's it's
like a five-man crew.
We just lost one like a month ago.
So yeah, we're down to five again.
Okay.
And you want them
to get to a point where they're taking enough initiative to manage the projects and complete them at standard, right?
So you're not having to actually show up and do the work, correct?
Exactly.
Okay.
So the reason.
You're not going to like this, but the reason that they're not developing into the people that you want them to develop into is because you said the thing right at the beginning.
You said, I'm the do-it-all guy.
Well, if you're doing all the shit, bro, how do you expect them to learn?
Okay, and by the way, nobody likes people, nobody
gets engaged in a job or a project or any of these things that we deal with if
they aren't valued and involved at at their craft, and while it may sound silly to say, well, you know, putting in insulation is kind of like, you know, that's not really a craft.
They want to contribute, bro.
People want to be part of a team and they want to be trusted and they want to be,
yeah, trusted to go out and execute so that they can have some value to take home, bro.
They want to be proud of their work.
They want to walk in the door and say, I'm important to this job or this company and by you being the do-it-all guy you're sort of standing in the way of that and so you have to adjust your mindset because i know why you do this bro we've all been through this you're afraid they're gonna up so bad that it's gonna fuck everything up and guess what they're gonna do they're gonna
they're gonna do it okay they're gonna fuck up every single fucking thing that you could possibly think of but you have to change your framework of how you think of those fuck ups Those little fuck-ups that they make, let's be honest, there's very few that people can make that would be fatal and cannot be fixed.
So you want to get to a place where you're trusting them with that level of responsibility.
And when they do make these mistakes, instead of saying, oh, man, see, that's why I should be doing it, you got to start saying, All right, Steve, come here, man.
You know, you fucked that up, right?
And he's going to say, well,
why?
And you're going to say, okay, well, you don't think that's fucked up?
And he's going to say, no, I think it is a little bit.
Explain to me why you think it is.
All right.
And he's going to say, well, you know, I did this and this and this.
And you're going to say, and also you didn't do this and this and this.
And then as long as they don't make the same mistake again.
You have to look at it as an investment in their education and skill set that will eventually allow you to work on the business the way that you're describing.
And by the way, bro, we all go through this, dude.
I went through this same shit because
I was so
desperate for my company to make it that I felt like I couldn't afford to have any mistakes.
And that's just not true.
In fact, sometimes when people make mistakes, it actually provides the best opportunity to wow your customers because you can say hey i know we that up but guess what we're going to make it right and we're going to do it for free and then also you do something extra so that gives you a measuring stick in the customer's eyes of how great you actually are when those mistakes happen so
this is really just a perspective switch that you've got to make in your brain.
All right.
And you, what I want you to do is realize these guys while you may see them because they're very frustrating right you may be like what the fuck guys
that's our emotions dude and we got to take our emotions out of those situations and evolve ourselves as leaders and say okay
and here's this will help you with that do you have any kids
no no yeah okay i don't either but what i do is i look at these dudes when they're making mistakes like little kids i see them as little kids Like they don't really know how to put the square hole in the square, the square block in the square hole yet.
I got to show them how to do these things.
And what's easy for us,
we take for granted.
We have this tendency to think that because it's in our brain, it's also in their brain.
And that's a very bad mistake.
And then what happens is, because it's so easy for us, we get fucking pissed off because they can't do it.
And so we we have to really take the emotions out, remember what we're dealing with here.
And remember, these are little kids that have to have their confidence built.
They have to be coached, just like a little kid has to be shown how to hit a baseball off the T.
And when you think about it like that, you actually gain a lot more patience and become a much better leader because now they're saying, well, you know,
he's not mad at me, dude.
He wants me to win.
He's showing me this and this.
And you know what?
I got to get better.
So
when you start to like operate in this other way, it shows them that you believe in them, which gives them the confidence to get better.
And then you end up with an entirely different culture.
And if you did this for the next year, you would call back on the show and you would say, my fucking team is the best team ever, but we got to get out of our own way for that to happen, man.
And we got to understand,
you know, like I used to do this thing where I, when we weren't performing, I automatically went to everybody's lazy.
That's where my default judgment went.
These motherfuckers don't care.
They're fucking lazy.
And to be honest, I still struggle with this, okay?
But I have to walk myself backwards and remember that's not really what it is most of the time.
And if someone is lazy, it's because they have seen you come in 4,000 times and fix the problem.
So this is just a perspective switch on your part
to one, realize that if you want to scale your business, you are going to have to start allowing them to have responsibility.
Two, you're going to have to coach them like they are brand new employees and build them up, not beat them down.
Three, remember that these guys do not have what you have in their brain.
They just don't have it.
All right.
So it's your job as the coach to make sure that they have it and four remember that it's not always that they're lazy most of these guys want to contribute they want to feel proud they want to go home to their wives and their girlfriends and say dude the guys at work love me man i'm working hard i'm doing good i everything's going good because dude that's what people want ultimately bro they they want the feeling of contribution and respect from their company.
And when you can give them that by developing that, you create this entire different culture that allows you to do exactly what you want to do.
And you won't have to worry about a motherfucking thing from them because they're going to be so grateful for your leadership and your mentorship and the way that you allow them to own the project that, bro,
they're going to go to fucking war for you.
So it's a totally, you know, 180 degree from where you are, but this isn't them, dude.
It's you.
and you just got to remember that.
You know what I'm saying?
Does that make sense?
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, bro.
I struggle with this shit too, dude.
This is like, this is a hard thing.
That's why leadership is such a, is such a difficult thing
because
when you're competitive and you want to win, you know, you see that like leadership is, I'm just going to pick up all the fucking weight and carry it.
And sometimes,
yeah, sometimes in crucial situations, you do have to do that.
But in situations where you know, like, okay,
if this guy messes this little thing up, I can fix it.
I can create an amazing experience for the customer.
And when he gets it right, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta be like, bro, fuck yeah, man.
That's how we do shit around here.
And you got to build them up to that standard.
So,
how old are you?
46.
Do you say 26?
26 or 46?
46.
26.
Bro, leadership, what you're talking about is a lifetime skill set that we never master it.
People will say you master it, but dude, you don't.
You continue to improve throughout your entire life.
And I'll be real, man.
Like
where you're at at 26 is much further ahead than where I was at 26 with this.
You know, just keep this in mind, dude.
It's about developing as a leader, you know, building the right culture and uh, allowing you because, dude, you know, you're not going to be able to scale the business unless you do these things.
You're going to always be on the job, you're going to always be fixing the little things.
And you know, I can hear the frustration in your voice, and I can also relate to it because it's annoying as fuck when you're paying people to do a job and they won't do it.
But usually, it's because we're not allowing them to do it.
That's the truth.
I got you, yeah, man.
Yeah, you got any
thoughts about that?
Yeah, I mean, it's just like, I mean, I try to give them the basic, like, I start them from the bottom and work them up.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I start them with this easy task and I slowly progress into like giving them a little bit more difficult things.
And then, like, if they can't handle the simple task, you know, I just struggle to give them like a higher up task because I just feel like there's no way they're going to figure this out.
if they can't get that, if that makes any sense, right?
Yeah, for sure, bro.
But also remember, not everybody's going to make the team not not not everybody gets to play football for the university of alabama you know like if you can't if you can't run some sprints and lift some weights do the bare minimum you ain't going to be here you certainly aren't going to play in the game
so you know like if you got somebody and you say hey uh i need this and this is very simple and they refuse to do it uh
you probably got the wrong guy you know so there's a level of competency that has there's a minimum level of competency that has to be had had.
The other thing, dude, that I think would benefit you greatly with what you're talking about here is
making sure that these guys, these five guys that you have understand
how it's going to benefit them if they actually put
their thoughts and their mind and their initiative and their care and their intent behind the work.
Okay.
What does it mean?
Like, if you're my boss and I work for you,
why is it important that I do things right?
What does that benefit me?
Because I'm going to get paid either way.
And then you have to convince, this becomes, now you become a coach to them, right?
You have to make them understand, like, hey, look, dude, is this all you ever want to make?
And if they say, yeah, then you got to get rid of them.
They won't make it.
You want guys with some drive, some guys that have bigger dreams.
And I'll be honest with you, dude.
You want, these are going to be young people that you're going to find find because once people get into their 30s and 40s and shit they've already accepted the lifestyle that they're going to have most of the time it's very rare for someone in their mid 30s or 40s to
break out of the identity that they've created for themselves in terms of what their life is by that time they've lost their ambition and they've reconciled that this is my life and i'm happy with it and they start telling themselves all this shit about how this is always what i wanted and this is what you know this is what i got blessed with and all this other
okay here's the truth you didn't work hard you didn't do the right things you didn't make the right decisions and now you're convinced that this is all you're going to ever get and that is very common with people in their 30s and 40s and it's very hard to break them out of it when you find someone who's young they're fucking they
understand that they have their whole lives in front of them so they want to make the most out of it.
So, your job is to paint that opportunity for them, coach them up.
And the way I usually think about coaching people is
as long as they, you know, because people are going to come and go, bro.
You know, you're going to teach some of these guys how to fucking swim and they're going to swim the fuck away from you.
And that's going to piss you the fuck off because you've invested all this time in them.
So, how I think about it is, all right,
I'm going to pour all this into someone and I want them to look back later in life and say, that's where I learned how to be successful.
That's where I learned how to win.
I'm very grateful for that opportunity because what they're going to say about you in the community, especially a small one like Lincoln, is going to be very important to your reputation.
So care about them, even if they go somewhere else.
Want them to win and think of it like this.
Even if I teach them everything I know and they leave, I want them to say, hey, man, I was very grateful that I worked for that man because he taught me this and this and this.
And, bro, that's a noble thing.
That's a good thing.
It's something that you'll be proud of later in life.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
All right.
You don't sound too enthusiastic today, bro.
You need some of this.
You need some of this format.
Analyzing.
Analyzing.
I'm trying to see how I'm going to apply it.
You know what you need to do?
You need to go to 7-Eleven for Dollar Days.
That's right.
I got no fucking 7-Elevens in Nebraska, man.
No, 7-Elevens.
Really?
Shit, dude.
I didn't.
How are there no 7-Elevens?
Oh, are they Speedways?
Yeah.
Speedways out there.
Hey, Casey's.
A bunch of fucking Caseys, too.
Yeah, well, go wherever the fuck you got to, bro.
Get yourself form energy.
That's right.
Make you feel better.
Hey, Lando Dude, we appreciate you calling in, man.
Hell yeah.
Appreciate you guys.
Everything you guys do.
Appreciate you, bro.
Think about what we talked about, man.
That's, you know, this is something that's normal for anybody in your position to struggle with.
So
the fact that you're aware that it's a problem is a great indication that you're going to solve it very quick.
So.
For sure.
Hopefully next year, this time,
I'm getting it figured out, if not sooner.
That's right, bro.
That's right.
You will.
I have no doubts.
All right, brother.
Appreciate you.
All right.
Appreciate you guys.
Take it easy.
See you, brother.
Yeah, dude.
That's cool.
I want to ask you this: with it being such a small team, just on the leadership aspect, real quick,
would you also recommend maybe like just taking one of those guys?
Maybe you see somebody in that group that has a little bit more potential to try to start building them up, hoping everybody else starts following.
Is that a good idea?
Would that be a fair it is,
but there's things that you have to be aware of with that.
Okay,
first of all, they have to be
the way.
All right, so if you're going to do that, that's that's a good thing to do.
But
if you pick the wrong person out of those five because you like them or because they're, they're, uh, you know, they're the one you get along with the best or they're your drinking buddy, funny joke, you're going to lose the rest of the motherfuckers.
Okay.
So if you do pull someone in tight, it has to be the person that all the other guys understand got the opportunity the fair way.
That's the truth.
Yeah.
So you will undermine your entire culture by pulling someone in that they perceive doesn't deserve it.
And sometimes when that person is the best person, they're going to perceive it that way.
But that's okay because
what it really does is it shows them how they have to be in order to get pulled into the inner circle.
And then what happens is, like you said, they start adopting that behavior.
By the way, that mentality goes for a macro level too, right?
Like if you own
multiple locations of a company, right, or a retail company or a service company or a restaurant, and you're trying to manage, let's say, five, six, you know, 20 locations and shit ain't going right, you're going to go find the one that is going right and you're going to point all the credibility to that one and say, guys, you know, these guys are fucking doing it.
This is my homie.
This is this and this and this.
But the minute that they stop doing it, because here's what happens sometimes too.
Sometimes you praise those guys and they start thinking they're the shit and they don't do the things that made them the shit anymore because they believe that they are the shit no matter what they do.
So you got to be very conscientious about how much praise you put on people.
But yes, generally that's a way to do it.
There's just things you got to be aware of before you do.
I love it, dude.
Yeah.
I love it, man.
Well, guys, Andy, that was three.
Yep.
All right, guys.
Don't forget.
We got a couple more days of dollar days.
Buy one, share one.
You guys are doing a fucking amazing job and I appreciate everything that you've done.
But let's finish strong and show these motherfuckers who we are.