847. Andy, Devin Johnson & DJ CTI: Jake Tapper Co-Authors New Book About Cover-Up Of Biden's Decline, Epstein Client List & Goku: Artificial Intelligence

Speaker 0 Yeah, we're sleeping on the floor.

Speaker 1 Now, my druid box froze. Fuck up, bowl, fuck up stove.
Counted millions in a cold. Bad bitch, booted swole.
Got a own bank rope. Can't fold.
That's a no. Head shot.
Case close.

Speaker 1 What is up, guys? It's Andy for selling. This is the show for the realists.
Say goodbye to the lies, the fakeness, and delusions of modern society. And welcome to motherfucking reality, guys.

Speaker 1 Today, we have Andy and DJ Cruise the motherfucking internet. That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 That is what CTI stands for. It stands for cruise the internet.
We're going to put topics on the screen. We're going to speculate on what is true and what is not true.

Speaker 1 And then we're going to talk about how we, the people, are going to solve some of these problems going on in the world.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to get right into it, bro. I'm just going to get right into it.
We got one of the homies here, Devin Johnson, Sales AI, the arch enemy.

Speaker 1 This is a good buddy of mine. If you guys don't know,

Speaker 1 he owns an AI company, Sales AI, number 438 on Inc.'s 5,000 list. So you guys are killing it.
You're a young man. How old are you? 28.
28 years old. Yes.
Paving the way with AI, bro. It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Running a real company. Yeah, exactly.
Not rug pulls on meme coins.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no shit. Not coaching courses on how to suck balls.

Speaker 1 It's discounted right now, too.

Speaker 1 You know, everybody's stealing your course. Yeah, that's what it is.
You innovated that field. You know, listen.
Ball sucking.

Speaker 1 Pay me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But anyway,

Speaker 1 we got some things we're going to talk about today.

Speaker 1 You know, we talk consistently about AI and the impact that it's going to have. And we're going to get to that for sure.
But,

Speaker 1 you know, we're going to keep it real with CTI. And

Speaker 1 before we get into that, man, like, just so people kind of know.

Speaker 1 what you do and how you got here and everything, give them, you know, a 90-second rundown of who you are and what you do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So from Indianapolis, Indiana, grew up in a suburb called New Palestine, Indiana, 30 minutes east of downtown.

Speaker 2 Grew up, my mom worked three jobs, keep me in a good school. Dad was incarcerated for 12 years.

Speaker 2 Got out, found out quickly he was a street pharmacist. That's how he broke it down to me.

Speaker 1 Street pharmacist.

Speaker 1 That's a new lingo right there. So

Speaker 1 that's what white people call it. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 I never knew my dad. I didn't know what to call him.

Speaker 1 They called him gone. He was just gone.

Speaker 1 He was a street illusionist.

Speaker 1 Like David Blaine almost.

Speaker 1 Street pharmacist.

Speaker 2 So mom and dad never married. Got to see two different sides of the aisle.
You know, hardworking mom to barely put food on the table. And

Speaker 2 my dad that had money come so fast, he didn't know what to do with it. Ultimately, it was his demise,

Speaker 2 you know, overdosed and got caught up in the crazy. So growing up, I knew I wanted the money, the lifestyle, didn't know how.
So I got into entrepreneurship. I started by flipping sneakers.

Speaker 2 So I resold Nikes, Jordans, Yeezys. I got my start on a scooter and I would do Craigslist deals back in the day.
So Craigslist was like Facebook Marketplace for

Speaker 2 back before.

Speaker 1 Is Craigslist still around? It is, but it's scary.

Speaker 1 Is it just like close encounters? Like, hey, I saw you at the grocery store.

Speaker 1 It's scary what it is now.

Speaker 2 I've went on there just curious what it is nowadays but uh yeah just hustled my way uh up to getting my first car and then i was doing sneaker trade shows and and then after high school graduated um and got into digital marketing because sneakers it was my first adversity so everything used to release in stores that was exclusive but then it went to apps only so nike would release their shoes on their app etc etc every brand like a goat and stuff like that yeah goat is actually a reseller platform.

Speaker 2 So those are authorized resellers or guys like me or you that have exclusive shoes that want to sell, but they verify them to make sure you're buying real shoes.

Speaker 2 But yeah, once that happened, it was very hard to get inventory. And everyone knows in business, no inventory, no sales, right? So that was my first real adversity.

Speaker 2 I got into digital marketing, had three failed businesses. And then my first success was a company called Connected.

Speaker 2 It was a LinkedIn recruiting automation platform for corporations ranging from small to enterprise. We grew that business to a couple hundred employees, had a sale event in October of 2023.

Speaker 2 And we took some of the framework that we originally were building into Connected and wrapped it into what we call sales AI now.

Speaker 2 We were in the early days of AI with the previous products, so it wasn't new to us, but we knew, you know, basic business philosophy, right, for me is when there's a gold mine, manufacture shovels.

Speaker 2 So I like to build tech platforms that people can easily use the best of the best.

Speaker 2 And so we put everything we had into creating the easiest platform to actually make money with artificial intelligence.

Speaker 2 So sales AI is AI agents to take inbound phone calls, work leads, and set qualified appointments for your sales team, but also handle inbound customer support, ticket filings, orders, refunds, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 Cool.

Speaker 1 That's awesome, bro. And, you know, you guys,

Speaker 1 Devin's been here before. We're friends.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, your family guy,

Speaker 1 man of faith.

Speaker 2 Yeah, man of faith. Married, two kids.

Speaker 2 Between work, kids,

Speaker 2 and miscellaneous hobbies in church. That's all I do.
Very boring guy. It's very routine.

Speaker 1 Well, most successful people are. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 How old were you when you you started the sneaker game?

Speaker 2 15.

Speaker 1 15 years old, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was 15. So there was a life event that kickstarted it, but I was trying to respect the 90 seconds.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we got plenty of time.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So the life event that happened to kickstart selling sneakers, it wasn't like I woke up.
I was like, I'm motivated to go make money.

Speaker 2 So my sister was diagnosed with Medister Blastoma Brain Cancer.

Speaker 2 And when that happened, my dad was an individual that that ran from problems versus facing them so there's another key lesson i learned young and left my mom high and dry for over a year my mom had to move into the hospital to take care of my sister so my sister was in riley children's hospital for over a year my mom lived at the riley home which is like apartments inside the hospital for kids that have to have um long-term care and She would come home, make sure I didn't miss events or whatever.

Speaker 1 But I basically lived between grandparents and on my own for a year and a half.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I got to figure out how to help my mom in this situation financially. So my dad would always buy me shoes.
So any birthday, suck up gift. I missed the game, which was every game.

Speaker 2 So I had a long story short, I had a lot of shoes that I knew had some value. So I sold my Jordans.

Speaker 1 They were all retros.

Speaker 2 Anyone listening probably knows like the Brett 11. I had like pair of those, all the cool grays, the Concorde.
So I had fresh shoes in school.

Speaker 1 I sold all those.

Speaker 2 I had about $2,000 to work with. And then my first resale pair was LeBron All-Star Pack.
I got my hands on that back in the day.

Speaker 2 It was one of the first shoes someone got killed over in public.

Speaker 1 So fun fact. Damn.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that's what kick-started it. Then I got addicted to it.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 2 I got addicted to making money, hustling. It was really cool being 15 and your friends are like, oh, my mom went, give me 20 bucks to go to the mall.
And I pull out, you know, $5,000.

Speaker 2 Like, I was addicted to that. Yeah.
I did build a very

Speaker 2 bad ego in high school. And I quickly got that knocked down going into real business out post-high school.
But yeah, I got addicted to making money and being able to stand on my own.

Speaker 1 That's awesome, dude. Young gun, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love it, dude. I love it.
Now, we're going to talk more about AI, what it's going to do to the world, how we're going to coexist with it as we get into the show. But you know the show.

Speaker 1 You listen to the show. We're going to go through current events.
We're going to talk some shit.

Speaker 1 I'm on demon time today. Yeah, I know.
You're upset. Yeah.
DJ's mad. I'm pissed.

Speaker 1 He's hungry.

Speaker 1 Might need his stickers.

Speaker 1 How's training going, DJ? Good. Training's good.
You're looking better. Thanks, man.
Yeah, better, sleeping better.

Speaker 1 You've been tracking your progress? Yeah. well, uh, yeah, you're just kind of going, just doing it.
Well, you like anybody, like, and this is, I've learned this from you, right?

Speaker 1 But, like, I mean, when you're like getting into it, right?

Speaker 1 Like, you know, because I've done this multiple times, it's like that scale can be a motherfucker, you know, and like not much you will see move on it for the first fucking three weeks, four weeks, really, you know.

Speaker 1 Um, I've just been, you know, head down grinding, bro. Good, you know, it's working.
Um, yeah, I appreciate it, man. And uh, yeah,

Speaker 1 Devin, you, you've uh recomped your physique as well, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So I've done 75 Hard twice.

Speaker 2 Shout out, Andy.

Speaker 2 And for the listeners, I'll tell you, 75 Hard is truly a mental program.

Speaker 2 Fitness benefits, but honestly, that program built a lot of disciplines that carried into business for me, just a side plug for the 75 Hard program. But yes, I completed it twice.

Speaker 2 My heaviest was 312.

Speaker 2 I just did your in body over in the gym. I'm 214.14 today.

Speaker 1 Fuck, that's all 98 pounds, bro. Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 And you look great. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 And then my body fat percentage, highest that I can remember, was like 38%

Speaker 2 and 17% today.

Speaker 1 That's badass, dude. That's fucking sick, man.
You look even better than the last time I saw you. Like, I appreciate it.
Yeah, and it's considerably better. Yeah.
So, thank you. Yeah, bro.

Speaker 1 All right, man. Well, let's fucking let's let's get rested.

Speaker 1 Let's get into it, man.

Speaker 1 I did want to bring this up. I mean, because I don't really know what to feel about it, what it is.

Speaker 1 You seen Gene Hackman? Yeah, I did see that. What the fuck was that?

Speaker 1 So, Oscar winner, Gene Hackman, wife, Betsy

Speaker 1 Araqua, and their dog were dead for some time, more shows. Yeah, they just

Speaker 1 found him dead in the house, man.

Speaker 1 And, you know, originally, like, it came out that it was like there was no like,

Speaker 1 you know, wrongdoing or anything, you know, nefarious was suspected, but it's just weird circumstances. Like, now they're saying, like, the position and how they found him.
And, like, it's weird.

Speaker 1 But, like, you know, dude's been in damn near every movie. Oh, yeah.
Tremendous actor, tremendous career. Yeah.
One of my favorite actors. No, shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's badass in everything he does.

Speaker 1 I always liked him in all of the movies, man.

Speaker 1 I thought he was pretty sweet. He was a good villain.
Yeah, he was. Like a scary villain.
Yeah, he was. Composed and like just no bullshit.
I always liked him as a villain. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fucking Lex Luthor, bro.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And if like, you'd always be the villain if you got it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You'd always be the villain.
Bro, I think I'd be a good one. I'd be a good villain.
Yeah. Like, fucking put me in some shit.

Speaker 1 You know, like, I think I'd be a good like. Spandex or no spandex, though.
Like, what are we doing? It just depends, man. It depends on what the paycheck says.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 They add a zero spandex.

Speaker 1 That's right. Spandex.
I'm down, man.

Speaker 1 I could do some evil villain movie work. I'm a pretty good actor.
I feel like you would be the villain, though, that people would like. They'd still like him.
Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, oh, I know why he's a villain. Like, it makes sense.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 You'd be like the Joker, right?

Speaker 1 And that people could get it.

Speaker 2 People love the Joker.

Speaker 1 Bro, you know what I would be? You ever seen Falling Down? No.

Speaker 1 That's what I would be.

Speaker 2 What's that? I haven't seen it either. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, you guys are Falling Down. It's Michael Douglas.
You really haven't seen it? It's fucking great. I'm 28, bro.
I'm 29. I ain't seen it.
He ain't seen it.

Speaker 1 That sounds like a I have a feeling that he's seen more movies than you. You think so? Have you seen Days of Thunder?

Speaker 2 I have seen Days of Thunder. Damn it.

Speaker 1 That's all I got to know. Fuck.

Speaker 1 So anyway. Yeah, man.
R.I.P. Yeah.
Gene Hackman, tremendous career. No, he was like 93.
Yeah, I mean, like, it really doesn't matter, but like, well, he's fucking old, man. Like, I'm still.
He was 95.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if someone's 95, if I'm 95 and someone kills me, don't be that mad about it. It's what it is.

Speaker 1 I lived a full life. Yeah.
Yeah, 95. They probably did me a favor.
Dude,

Speaker 1 what is weird about his wife and his dog? And they found a bunch of pain pills. Pain pills.
So at first, I saw it, and I was like, well, maybe she killed herself. He died.
She killed herself.

Speaker 1 And they left the dog. And it said it was weeks before they found him.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, bro, now they're saying.

Speaker 1 Now they're saying it's suspicious, right? It is suspicious. Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know, man.
It's weird.

Speaker 1 I saw some pictures that they probably couldn't find him again, but like some, I guess, more recent pictures of him, man.

Speaker 1 He didn't look that good, you know, he was fucking 95, 95, yeah, you know, so yeah, R.I.P.,

Speaker 1 yeah, great life, dude. Yeah, got to do some cool shit.
Yep, well, yeah, man, let's get into some of these headlines, guys. Let's knock these out.

Speaker 1 Remember, if you want to see any of these pictures, articles, links, videos, go to andyforsella.com. You guys can find them all linked there.
With that being said, let's get into our first segment.

Speaker 1 Headline number one:

Speaker 1 Jake Tapper is entering the show today.

Speaker 1 CNN's Jake Tapper co-authors new book about cover-up of ex-president Biden's decline, despite previously waving off age of concerns. Did you see this?

Speaker 1 No. Yeah, so Jake Tapper, you know, CNN guy,

Speaker 1 he is now a co-author of a new book that is detailing the lengths to which the Biden administration and its allies engaged in a cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, even though he was like one of the main proponents of covering up Biden's decline.

Speaker 1 It's like asking OJ to help you find the killer. You know what I'm saying? It's like,

Speaker 1 well, OJ did write a book. He wrote a book called If I Did It.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, he, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I was like, bro, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 And like, dude, they got him on. Like, I mean, I have a little video here.
This is like a little collage of

Speaker 4 jake tapper's position uh let's check this out how do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that it's very clearly a cognitive decline that's what i'm referring to it makes me uncomfortable you have you have no absolute

Speaker 3 it's so amazing to me that

Speaker 3 try and figure out an answer a cognitive decline to biden embraces his stutter talking about it while trump mocks it exaggerates it belittles it he's sharp physically i mean uh mentally yeah i think the question is physically, right?

Speaker 5 Right. More so? Right.
Right.

Speaker 3 And the guy who's his chief opponent is only three or four years younger than him. He's going to be.

Speaker 3 I mean, you have questioned President Biden's age, mental fitness, ability to lead of those supporting Biden. You said, quote, shame on all of you pretending everything is okay.

Speaker 3 You're leading us and him into a disaster. Do you worry that you damaged him at all? I don't doubt that you got hugs and

Speaker 3 handshakes behind closed doors today, and maybe even publicly, some of them because they like you personally.

Speaker 5 But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about you from your Democratic colleagues.

Speaker 3 I mean, just like, what is he thinking? Exercise and narcissism. I mean, false claims to the Wall Street Journal about President Biden's mental fitness and acuity.

Speaker 3 He's 81 and his memory, you know, it doesn't seem great.

Speaker 5 It's not horrible, but I don't understand the outrage.

Speaker 3 Quote, behind closed doors, Biden shows signs of slipping, unquote. The Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corps, which is run by the Murdochs.

Speaker 3 Beyond the headline, there is some critical nuance here. The article is mostly based on observations of Republicans, with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy the only one going on the record.

Speaker 3 They do note in the article that most of the criticism comes from Republicans. Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met with President Biden about it?

Speaker 1 So he does that, and then now he has a book out. Original Sin, President Biden's Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, what better guy to write a book about it than the guy who actually covered it up?

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 1 what do you think i mean it's fucking it's stupid but i mean not even just that like here's the conversation nobody's having like all of the stuff like what what else was covered up from the bidens you know like it just came out uh just just today i believe or yesterday actually

Speaker 1 that there's a texas nonprofit uh with uh one of biden transition team members uh who's on it and who runs it um yeah they reaped in millions of dollars like hundreds of millions of dollars In 2020, they recorded $8.3 million in investments.

Speaker 1 And in 2023, that number was up to $520 million.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know where that money came from? Us. No, but you know where it was hidden?

Speaker 1 It was hidden in all that money they sent to Ukraine. Guaranteed, dude.
Dude. Well, like, and what's even crazier is that like, it's...

Speaker 1 Remember when I said that over and over and over, that they were trying to milk the money out before they knew they were getting out? So they're trying to take as much out.

Speaker 1 The big dump, yeah, right before it was over. USAID comes out and says, Yeah, we're funding half the world media and we're funding all these NGOs and all these charities.

Speaker 1 You know, we give uh Soros $260 million for his

Speaker 1 open society foundation.

Speaker 1 And he turns and uses that for prosecutors and fucking

Speaker 1 it's crazy. We've been, we've been, we've had our own tax dollars weaponized against us.
It's fucking insane, bro. Well, like the other piece of it, too, let me see, where is it at?

Speaker 1 The other piece of it, like, so

Speaker 1 since March of 2024,

Speaker 1 uh hhs has paid 18 million dollars per month to this facility in pay in in picos texas um

Speaker 1 and there's nobody there

Speaker 1 yeah like no nobody's even nobody's there answers please yeah they'll never get them

Speaker 1 yeah everybody's guilty bro yeah it's it's not just democrats it's there's republicans too that's

Speaker 1 the conversation nobody's ready for dude that's what i'm saying and these guys this is the system dude they come in they all know the secret handshakes and the backdoor deals and how it works and this is why we have so many people that go into government and never come out and why

Speaker 1 the government currently attracts the kind of people that it does you know we don't have a bunch of patriots up there guys like we don't have the best and brightest we don't have the people who are building culture and society serving in our government for the most part.

Speaker 1 We might have a couple people, but I mean, what, one, two percent of them? Yeah, I mean, very rarely, yeah, so I mean, like, you know,

Speaker 1 you know, crookery attracts crooks, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And uh, crime attracts criminals, and and these people are fucking snakes, and we all know it, but you know, nothing's being done about it.

Speaker 1 And I don't, I'm losing faith that anything's going to be done about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like, where would you start, though? You know, there's so much that's been done to this point. It's like, like everyone at some point is probably dipped their hand in the cookie jar.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 it, it'd be like the whole government would have to be under siege.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean,

Speaker 1 that might be what it takes. Yeah.
You know, I, I know that's, that sounds crazy, but, you know, this, this is what fuels revolution, dude.

Speaker 1 When you have a small amount of people that oppress a large amount of people,

Speaker 1 eventually the large amount of people figure out that they're a large amount of people and revolutions happen. And these people, I believe, are playing with fire.

Speaker 1 I believe that a revolution in this country is on the horizon if

Speaker 1 the current administration doesn't drastically clean things up, which, you know, I'm hopeful for. I said I would give 90 days to see what happens.
There's things happening that are decent, but,

Speaker 1 you know, I want to see some arrests, dude. I want to see some people held accountable.

Speaker 1 I want to be able to trust that we're going to prosecute criminals not just you know the citizen criminals but the government criminals too yeah and you know there's an unfair double standard going on in this country and it's not between you know different races it's between social classes and you know i know you guys you know you might say well you're in that class no i'm not in that class i'm not a political i'm not in the political ruling class i'm an entrepreneur you're an entrepreneur right

Speaker 1 Trust me, if we were in the political ruling class, shit would be a lot easier to be in business. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 But these people can't create, so they steal our shit. And that's what we're dealing with, man.
And it's not Democrats only.

Speaker 1 I think it's heavily Democrat, but I think there's a lot of Republicans that understand what's going on that aren't willing to do anything about it. Because, dude, it's like.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like we say on the show, man. Attorneys all run together, dude.
Like when you get in a lawsuit,

Speaker 1 most people have never been in a lawsuit, so they don't know what it's actually like. Like how it works.
Yeah, like people are, I'm going to sue that person for this and this and this.

Speaker 1 And it's like, dude, here's what's going to happen. You know, these stories that you read about where someone gets $50 million, that's like the...00001% of lawsuits.

Speaker 1 In most lawsuits, what happens is you hire an attorney, that attorney files a case,

Speaker 1 the other person's attorney knows your attorney they get on the phone and they say and they do a strategy talk they say hey dj i got a guy i got i got devin over here he wants to sue your client he wants me not he's pretty fucking pissed yeah um

Speaker 1 you know i think he's got a pretty good case uh but i think we should make him walk through all the process and you guys should wait to settle because dude we'll both get paid you know those conversations happen oh yeah and people don't believe that that why do you think these motherfuckers play golf together Why do you think they go to dinner together?

Speaker 1 Why are they having a cocktail system? Exactly. And we ain't in it.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 bro, the biggest

Speaker 1 group of unethical attorneys lives in Washington, D.C. So, if you guys think that these people don't know what's actually been going on on both sides, they fucking know.

Speaker 1 Now, there's some people that have come in in the last few years that maybe have come in because they actually care.

Speaker 1 I know a couple. I could speak to a couple personally, but I mean,

Speaker 1 it's the exception of the rule. Yeah.
You know? Yeah, man.

Speaker 1 It's wild. I just thought that was interesting, man.
So, Jake Tapper's doing that. So, if that's the case and these guys are all together, like, how do you ever get rid of it? How do you get it out?

Speaker 1 That was my point.

Speaker 2 They publicly take one position. Behind closed doors, it's mutual.

Speaker 1 It is. Bro, I've heard that from people who are up there or people who have been up there, like in office that aren't anymore.

Speaker 1 Straight to my face, tell me. They're like, bro, it's all acting.

Speaker 2 I mean, have you seen House of Cards?

Speaker 1 No, I don't watch it. I have.
It's actually, yeah. Is that how it is? Bro.

Speaker 2 Oh, go watch it. Well, dude,

Speaker 1 one of my buddies who was an elect, a pretty high up elected official, he's no longer in elected government. I mean, he's like, dude, we'll sit in a room and we'll walk out.

Speaker 1 And they'll say, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. And I'll say, well, fuck them.
And we planned planned on doing that. Yeah.
It's like fucking wrestling. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 WWE.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But they both, the deal was made in the back door where they both get something.

Speaker 1 And that's not okay, man. That's what this country's about.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 When everybody's in on the take, I can't fucking call them out because then that's going to expose me fucking on the take. Bro, and that's the other part of it.

Speaker 1 They get everybody's hands dirty so that there's evidence against everybody. And the person who blows the whistle gets hit the hardest and everybody else denies it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. Guys, I don't,

Speaker 1 yeah. I mean, OG,

Speaker 1 OJ Tapper.

Speaker 1 You know how they get them, too, right?

Speaker 1 Through the blackmail shit. Oh, yeah.
But you know how they get them, though, right?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? They send hot girls to get them. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. That's how they get all these dudes.
They send them like these super hot

Speaker 1 females. King Fang? Yeah.
Well, I mean, dude, they're fucking spies. Yeah.
And they send them and these fucking spies have sex with these dudes and then they they got them.

Speaker 1 And that's how they get them. Yeah, man.
Yeah, guys, jumping on this conversation. Let us know what you guys think down in the comments.
With that being said, let's go check some of the chat out.

Speaker 1 Got Cruise Comments.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This first one.
My favorite part. It's Cruise Comments.
Yeah. All right.

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Sounds like a real name. Yep.
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Oh, it's definitely a real person then.

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That's right.

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Speaker 1 Hey, appreciate you, man. Appreciate you.

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We got one more comment. This is from uh at Stephen

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Speaker 1 6321. A little spice on this one.
He says, Uh, please bring back the tier list segment. The last one was absolute comedy.
All right, so what's our next debate? You mean the rating french fries?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the rating french fries. So, what we gotta do? Bro, I love how, like, dude, we sit in here.
Look, bro,

Speaker 1 we sit in here.

Speaker 1 Devin, you know this shit. We sit in here.
We give all this entrepreneur advice, right? 25 years of experience. I give it for fucking free.

Speaker 1 I help open everybody's eyes to all this shit. I don't get anything but shit for it.

Speaker 1 You know, all the fucking influencers, they get invited to Trump's castle and fucking, I don't even get an invite because once in a while I say some fucking real shit

Speaker 1 that I don't like.

Speaker 1 And the thing that everybody likes the most of everything that we do is our french fry ranking yeah dumb

Speaker 2 listen the best french fries is very simple it's rallies

Speaker 1 rallies is is rallies still around yeah

Speaker 1 i just ate it in florida really

Speaker 1 checkers and rally somebody commented that too they're like you guys didn't put checkers and rallies no five they were pissed about the five guys a lot of people were pissed about five guys too yeah no i mean rallies is good you know very good i just you know i like my safety more because like the only rallies here bro they're in the fucking shit.

Speaker 2 Like, you know, no, no, the one I went to, very fucking questionable.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, yeah, but worth it. It's a safety concern.

Speaker 2 I pulled up in a car that definitely didn't belong there and was

Speaker 2 very a lot of eyes.

Speaker 1 Bro, did I ever tell you the time that I got lost in North St. Louis in my fucking Wraith? At the Walgreens? Yes.
So, dude, I was with my fucking tattoo artist.

Speaker 1 So, my tattoo artist is a guy named Eric Marcinazen. He's the best in the world.
He does black and gray only.

Speaker 1 It's hard to get into him.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 so he comes to town and we're fucking tattooing up at the four seasons. And that's how he likes to do it.

Speaker 1 He likes to get like a hotel room and like we fucking chill for like two days, order room service, you know, smoke a little bit, have fun. So he fucking ran out of latex gloves.

Speaker 1 So we had to go get latex gloves. And for those of you that don't know, where the four season is in St.
Louis, it is right on the border of the area that you do not fucking know.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Like you do not fucking. Great hotel.
Beautiful hotel. So, so I'm in the, I'm driving and I'm, you know, I don't know where the Walgreens is around there.
And he fucking, you know, he's not from here.

Speaker 1 And he's like, and so I let him like tell, like, all right, we go here, we go here. Yeah.
I'm like, where's the closest Walgreens? It'll take five minutes. That was a mistake.

Speaker 1 We should have went to the furthest Walgreens.

Speaker 1 So we end up like in this, like, you know how in the north right there? That's exactly where you were. It's all section eight, right? Like, and it's like, it's like,

Speaker 1 Section eight, like you see in the movies. I'll tell you this.
The Walgreens is on the street named Dr. Martin Luther King, which for those that don't know, you don't go there.

Speaker 1 Any street in America named Dr. Martin Luther King, don't go there.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Indies is also rough.

Speaker 1 So, bro, this is when the Wraith like first came out. And I had a two-tone, because that two-tone race were the shit when they first came out.
I had the fucking silver top and the black sides.

Speaker 1 It was fucking pimping. So we're, we're cruising up through the, and I'm looking around and I'm like, fuck, this ain't good.
And I'm thinking it in my head. I'm like, this ain't fucking good.

Speaker 1 I didn't say anything to him. And he, he looks at me and he goes, you know where we are?

Speaker 1 I'm like, no.

Speaker 1 So we find this Walgreens and we pull up, bro. And like within 30 seconds, my car is surrounded by fucking 25-year-old dudes that look like they're from the movie Friday.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen, there's no white people. No, no.
Everybody's black. They're wearing, you know, like, wife beaters and long-ass shorts and shit and like...
Jabots.

Speaker 2 I'm like, some Pelli Pell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, i don't even know i don't know what the fuck but it wasn't it didn't it looked scary all right so

Speaker 1 so it was a lot of uh yeah a lot of domestic terrorist struggles so i you know i always roll with my with my piece in my cup holder you know so it was in there and uh

Speaker 1 dude comes up knocks on the window and i'm like fuck i'm like i'm legit probably going to get shot and have to shoot some people like he's in walgreens eric's in walgreens

Speaker 1 i roll the window down and he's like hey man he's like is this the new wraith and i'm like yeah he's like can i check it out and i'm like yeah he's like i just take some pictures and i'm like all right cool and they took some pictures they fucking dabbed me up and they fucking went on it was like and it was cool yeah right yeah but i was i mean i was definitely scared it shows you shows you never judge a book bots cover it shows you dude they pound that fucking racist shit in your head like you should be scared of everybody but i was scared i was

Speaker 1 but they were cool and they were nice. I just want to see the car.

Speaker 2 Two days ago, I was down in Miami and I was in a 488, and there was these kids at a stoplight selling candy. And I rolled my window down.

Speaker 2 I gave them a, I was like, come here, I'll support the hustle, you know, young entrepreneurs. I love that.
And I gave them a hundred dollar bill. Yeah.
Dude, they got so excited.

Speaker 2 They threw the candy and ran off. Yeah.
I was like, where's my candy, bro?

Speaker 1 No candy. Bro, they took off.
Like, like, it was like I gave them $10 million. Oh, yeah, bro.
They were so. Bro, you remember that time we did that? Manat? Remember when we did that?

Speaker 1 We had a girl driving or selling lemonade, and we fucking went and bought some lemonade. It was good lemonade, too.
Yeah. We were driving a lot of Ferrari.
It was fucking awesome. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Lemonade stands, bro. I had one in my neighborhood.
Like when we first moved in, I tried to do the same thing, but it tastes like, it tasted like shit.

Speaker 1 You had your own lemonade stand?

Speaker 1 Like some little kids was you know doing a lemonade stand i'm like oh you probably set one up across from me

Speaker 1 dj set up his kool-aid stand across the street

Speaker 1 we'll see who owns this block

Speaker 1 right what do we call it street scientists street pharmacists yeah

Speaker 1 it is what it is man dj's over there

Speaker 1 with a kick serving that fucking lean that scissor

Speaker 1 uh guys we appreciate you man for being real ass fans. Keep liking, commenting.
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Speaker 1 You know what I wasn't looking for at that fucking Walcreets? What? White supremacist.

Speaker 1 It would have been a problem, then. Yeah, no shit, bro.
Got to watch out for them fucking white people. Yeah, man.
Guys, let's get to headline number two.

Speaker 1 Got some more updates of some things going on in the Trump administration.

Speaker 1 Some cool things. You guys are both car guys, so this is

Speaker 1 actually an interesting topic here.

Speaker 1 Now who's screwed?

Speaker 1 EU Fury as Trump 25% tariffs hit European stock market, and panicking officials warned the block will react as firmly as possible after Donald said block was set up to screw the United States.

Speaker 1 So a new tariff just went out to all European auto sales.

Speaker 1 And there's mass effects going on. European auto sales shares fell today after Donald Trump unveiled a plan to slap a 25% tariff on cars cars and other goods from the European Union last night.

Speaker 1 And brands like Stellantis, Ferrari, Audi, they're all getting anxious and all of their stocks are starting to see some issues here. But this was the first piece that came out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he called the European block.

Speaker 1 He said that it was basically built to screw the United States.

Speaker 1 I don't know how much that's going to affect the car market and how that works, but I mean, anything on that?

Speaker 1 I got all the cars i want

Speaker 1 hey i'm still working on it so okay

Speaker 1 i don't need any more cars

Speaker 1 i'm still building so i mean look here's the good news all the best cars have already been made because all the shit they're making now is this hybrid fucking bullshit they sound like vacuums yeah bro it's terrible like all my cars are like from you know 2000 to like

Speaker 1 I mean, I got a couple new ones, but like all the good ones are from like 2000 to 2018.

Speaker 2 18 was the last good year. Yeah.
It was the last, unless you consider the SVJ was what's SVJ is an awesome car. Yeah, but you know, 25%, they'll probably just pass it along.
So I mean,

Speaker 1 if they really do that, I mean, I got about seven cars from Ferrari on order that are all going to get fucking canceled.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm already paying a premium, you know, to, you know, like, it is what it is. I ain't paying 25% more.
Yeah. It ain't happening.
That's the shit. They're going to have to lower their price.

Speaker 1 That's a shit ton. Yeah, that's a shit ton, man.
I don't know. It depends on how it just depends on how much of the market we consume of those cars.

Speaker 2 The market on cars is already really down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a few outliers, but it's getting hammered for sure.

Speaker 2 It's smoked. I mean, I wasn't losing money on cars for a minute, and I've taken some L's over the last two years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to make sure, bro, like you're buying the low production number shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Dude, just switched my.

Speaker 1 I switched my let me help you with your with your collection because I'll I'll I'll guide you the right way.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got out of the, you know, the hurricane's and yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 I got out of those.

Speaker 2 My most recent purchases have been more exclusive. Go up in value.

Speaker 1 Dude, or at least hold. At least hold.
Yeah, you know, like, dude, that's, you know, if you get the right car at the right price, it'll hold your money. You get to, you get to drive it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I mean, it's just strategy, dude. You know, it's supply supply demand.
Low production number equals sustained, you know, value for the most part. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so I mean, we'll see what happens. I don't know what's going to happen.
It'll be interesting, man.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, dude, do we really, I mean, I would venture to guess that the United States represents a very significant portion of the consumption of new automobiles from all the manufacturers that you listed.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we'll have to see what happens because there is a come a point of unaffordability for most people.

Speaker 2 I mean, a family go buy a new SUV or an Audi, right? $120,000, $110,000, $100,000. That's like table stakes.
If you want to go get a new Tahoe, you're out the door after taxes, everything.

Speaker 2 You're about $100,000, $95,000. It's insane.

Speaker 1 That is insane. I remember when brand new Tahos were for like $45, $50,000.
Yeah. I mean, you know, my like like decked out yeah it it just goes up and up every single year i mean

Speaker 1 the escalate v is 180 fucking grand yeah it's insanity that's crazy man that's crazy i mean new world bro and you see them you see them around like quite a few of them yeah and it makes me wonder it's like

Speaker 2 okay you know a car that made me wonder where the fuck the money came from the c8 corvette it's a hundred plus thousand dollar car there's a lot of them And there's where I live in Indiana,

Speaker 2 I see 30 a day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I see a lot of them, too.
My dad's got one. What's fucking sweet? Have you driven one? Yeah.
They're fun to drive.

Speaker 2 I've driven the

Speaker 2 base one LZ and three LZ and then also Z06.

Speaker 1 I haven't driven the Z06.

Speaker 1 My dad has the Z51 package. And I mean,

Speaker 1 to him, it's great. He's 80.
You know what I'm saying? To me,

Speaker 1 it's good. It's balanced.
I like driving it, but it feels slow.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, I also drive ridiculously fast shit all the time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it just, you know, what you can get for a similar price. Yeah.
Like the decision between

Speaker 2 a middle-aged Ferrari or a Corvette, like, give me the Ferrari all day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
Versus. Especially if you can get a V12 Ferrari.
Yeah. They're fucking awesome.
Yeah. Yeah.
Must be a lot of USAID workers where you live at. Huh? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what it is. No, but other stuff has been going on, too.

Speaker 1 For the first time,

Speaker 1 you now have illegal migrants that have been trying to come to this country. They're now paying smugglers for boat rides back home.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're turning around. Yeah.
I saw that. So, I mean, that's okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mexico was saying yesterday that the migrant flow is actually reversed. Reversing.
And they have big caravans going the opposite way now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, fuck, if you cut off the tit of the NGOs that are funding those travel plans, so you know, those migrants even get here.

Speaker 1 Well, dude, that's a problem, too, though, because remember, those NGOs were giving them food and water and all this shit to walk all the way up here.

Speaker 1 They're not going to be able to do that on the way back. So we're going to have, you know, these people are going to get sick and die on the way back.
It'll be a real humanitarian crisis. For real.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That they created by doing something illegal.

Speaker 1 That should have never been done. Yeah, right, right.
So, I mean, that's going on. That's interesting.

Speaker 1 Other news, let's get into some of the Doge stuff real quick because this is also interesting.

Speaker 1 So, you remember those emails that Doge made all the federal employees respond to, like with the five bullet points of things you've done?

Speaker 1 Elon got one.

Speaker 1 This is one of the emails that was replied back. So, this was an act, this is an actual government employee.
Responding to it, yeah, can I read it?

Speaker 1 Responding to the email: Hi, I wanted to email what I did last week in detail. Please let me know if you need some more information.
Number one, I sucked the biggest dick.

Speaker 1 Seriously, it was 12.3 inches. I measured.
Number two, I got fucked by said dick. Best sex of my life, and we'll be going back for more.
Number three, ate a man's ass.

Speaker 1 But he said he wasn't gay, so it's fine.

Speaker 1 This is a man writing this about men. Yep, and I'm reading it.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You wanted to read it. I was going to read it for you.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm already in.

Speaker 1 It's already going on.

Speaker 1 Uh, number

Speaker 1 five, that's four. No, he's he doesn't even have five.
Well, it's funny you say that because Elon also, uh, hold on, you read the fourth one.

Speaker 1 The fourth one said, Decide to fuck myself with your bullshit and came, and then it's signed

Speaker 1 sincerely, go fuck yourself.

Speaker 1 But there's only four things. Well, that's what Elon said, too.
Elon said, um, we said five items, and that's only four.

Speaker 1 You know what? I mean, you can't even be mad at it. Yeah, I mean, look, dude, he asked for five things.
If you had to give five things, maybe you'd keep your job. Maybe.

Speaker 1 I mean, that sounds like a lot of work.

Speaker 1 You know, 12.3 inches, big-ass hog, bro. You're right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shit. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 That sounds like a fucking job. Yeah, I shake that guy's hand.

Speaker 1 All right. He's so strong.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for. Never mind.
I'm not going to say it. What can't you wait for? Nothing.
Because if I say it, people will do it. And then it'll be all over the internet.
I'm not saying shit.

Speaker 1 Anyway, learn how to count, dumbass. Yep.

Speaker 1 But I mean, yeah, that's all. You know, he counted all the inches on that dick, didn't he?

Speaker 1 I measured. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, it's still a bit of downfall. You got tears, tissues, and chocolates outside USA Ideas.
Feds are given 15 minutes to clear out their desk. So a shit ton of people have been getting fired.

Speaker 1 That's still been on the rise.

Speaker 1 I think they're they're projected to have these mass layoffs completed. I believe that the date is like March 14th.

Speaker 1 I want to show you one of the videos that has been circulating, going viral. Check this out.

Speaker 7 I really felt that we were providing support and care to humanity around the world because it's the right thing to do. And that made me feel proud no matter who was president.

Speaker 7 And now I don't know what to do. And I have cried every day.

Speaker 7 I think that that's normal. I have a 15-month-old at home, and I'm looking at him and thinking, well, what's this country that we're now living in?

Speaker 8 We're doing work for the American public.

Speaker 9 We're here for safety.

Speaker 8 And we're patriots. We love our country.
That's why we're taking these jobs that don't pay us in the private sector. I'm an accountant.

Speaker 8 I could get a private sector job tomorrow, but I care about this country and I want to be here.

Speaker 1 Hold on, stop.

Speaker 1 Stop that.

Speaker 1 I'm an accountant. I could go to the private sector tomorrow, but I'm crying every day about how I don't have a job anymore Because I love my country.

Speaker 1 You love your country so much, you're willing to steal everybody's tax dollars and put them towards your own political agendas. You love your country.
You think it's okay? She loves her country. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like that woman crying, like, you know, it's hard to have empathy for people like this. When,

Speaker 1 when, okay, yes, I understand you have bills to pay and you have family to take care of.

Speaker 1 But when you take half of people's money that they work for

Speaker 1 and put it into programs that support propaganda of your side and you somehow thinks that you're justified to get paid off of that money. That's not patriotic at all.

Speaker 1 And what about all the people, the millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of people that struggle to feed their families because they're overtaxed?

Speaker 1 They can't work any more hours. They can't make any more money.
And you take half of it anyway. Like, bro, that's the crime here.
That's that's the oppression.

Speaker 1 And it doesn't matter if you guys think you're patriots or think you're doing good. You're not doing good.
And that's the reality. You're not doing good at all.
You're doing very evil shit.

Speaker 1 And whether you knew it or not, I don't know. But we can't expect to subsidize your income because you picked the wrong team to be on, dude.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, I mean, think of all the people, like, bro, you come from regular people. You know, I come from regular people.
Like, think of all the people you know that struggle to pay their bills.

Speaker 2 And like, watch my mom work three jobs.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. And dude, she wouldn't have had to work three if they hadn't taken half of fucking money in tax.

Speaker 1 You know, maybe she would have had to work two, but it certainly would have been easier than it was. Yeah.
You know, and with what things cost now

Speaker 1 versus what the pay scale is,

Speaker 2 it's insanity.

Speaker 1 I mean, bro.

Speaker 2 Take your kids to Disney World. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Enough said.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I bought pretzels, a hot dog and chips and a drink. It was like $80.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I just, I, I turned to my wife. I'm like, how do normal families afford? They don't.

Speaker 2 I know it's racking up on a credit card, right?

Speaker 1 But I was just like, this is fucking insanity. Yeah.
And, and dude, it, it,

Speaker 1 you know, a lot of people, when I say these things, they're like, well, I don't fuck do you care? Because, bro, I know what that's like.

Speaker 1 You know, like, I might not have to feel that now, but I know what that's like before.

Speaker 1 It's wrong.

Speaker 2 Still question everything.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 Like, what's going on? Yeah, well, what's going on is they're taking half our money. They're spending it on things to propagate us into believing things that aren't even true.

Speaker 2 I've seen they sent $20 million

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 2 put Sesame Street in Iraq. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 1 what? What's going on? But you know how many times Sesame Street aired in Iraq? By none. Zero.
Yeah. And that's what these things are.

Speaker 1 That's why I like that picture you showed where there's nobody there. There's just empty golf carts and equipment.

Speaker 1 They have empty golf carts and empty classrooms so that they can fucking show that, you know, these things have been purchased.

Speaker 1 And the rest of the money that never gets checked up on, it goes in their pocket. You know, dude, it's straight up fleecing and theft of the American people.
And the

Speaker 1 punishment should be very harsh. And I'm afraid it's not going to be unless the people make the punishment.
Have to declare it, man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have to demand it.

Speaker 1 But other stuff going on. Tulsi Gabbert, she inches the show today.

Speaker 1 Tulsi Gabbert says, NSA employees tied to explicit chat rooms to be terminated. Security clearances revoked.
Did you hear about that shit, bro?

Speaker 1 Not in detail, a little bit. So, so, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, she's the director of national intelligence.

Speaker 1 There were employees

Speaker 1 that worked for the NSA.

Speaker 1 There's this like, you know, it's a chat room for like interagency communication. All right.

Speaker 1 And, you know, there's there's threads inside of these chat rooms. And one of these threads was literally just filled with

Speaker 1 LGBTQ, you know, identifying employees of these intelligence agencies talking about their sexual activities, their sexual preferences, 12-inch cocks. And, oh, I just got a big one.

Speaker 1 Disgusting stuff. And this chat room is supposed to be used to communicate our nation's intelligence and secrets across to each other effectively.
Wild. It's insane.

Speaker 1 But yeah, and so she. So let me ask you a question.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You guys tell me what you think. Have you ever seen the Snowden documentaries?

Speaker 1 Okay, like, and in the Snowden documentaries, the reason people hate Snowden and they call him a traitor is because he exposed how

Speaker 1 the United States was using the Patriot Act. to monitor its own citizens.
Right. Okay.

Speaker 1 So the reason the government and the media says that Snowden is a traitor, they try to paint it like he was giving secrets to these guys. No, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 He was giving the people the intel that our government used the Patriot Act to legitimately log into our computers and watch us and listen to us and record us. Okay.

Speaker 1 When you guys see someone get committed of a crime and there's all these audio recordings, Doesn't that ever raise a red flag that you're like, where do these audio recordings come from?

Speaker 1 Well, they come from the NSA

Speaker 1 getting into your shit and recording what you say. And all you guys that have Alexa or these electronic devices in your home, you're not understanding or even your phone.

Speaker 1 Like, if you ever want to have a confidential conversation, you have to put your phone five rooms away because they record that shit. Every conversation.

Speaker 1 every text, every email, everything you've ever said or done on a digital device is recorded and kept. All All of it.
Okay. And he exposed that.
Most people still don't know that that's the truth.

Speaker 1 It's still going on today. Yes.
So

Speaker 1 this is how they blackmail people. This is what they get people to be quiet.
You know, they go and they show them their fucking dick pics or whatever they've been doing.

Speaker 1 And they're like, dude, you better shut the fuck up, or this is what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 And that's, this is what they do. So,

Speaker 1 so, knowing all that,

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 that is what Snowden was exposing.

Speaker 1 do you think that these employees at the nsa who were having private chats about

Speaker 1 gay sex or sex or whatever big dicks big titties whatever whatever they were talking about i don't even know

Speaker 1 do you do you think that those people

Speaker 1 would abuse their power to spy on regular americans when they're you know on their computers and phones and their pictures and all that shit a hundred percent 100%.

Speaker 1 No doubt.

Speaker 1 We have no privacy. You guys think that we're private or have privacy? You're insane.
There's no privacy.

Speaker 1 They got every single thing you ever said, ever did. And

Speaker 1 that's how they control other powerful people. And then things like the Epstein thing, right?

Speaker 1 So we're talking about that. Oh, for sure.
But, dude, I mean.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Those people should be terminated.
Well, and the craziest thing happened, right? Because like you have, so you have this thing going on with the NSA. This comes out.
It's being handled.

Speaker 1 I trust Gabby to handle it. And again, those people are being terminated.
Their security clearances are being revoked. Cool.

Speaker 1 But then we got to switch over to the CIA and FBI. Let's watch this clip from Jesse Waters.

Speaker 6 But Intel doesn't like being told what to do. When they saw Musk with the chainsaw doging foreign aid, They started leaking to CNN.
If you doge us, there will be consequences.

Speaker 6 On the CIA's seventh floor, home to top leadership, some officers are also quietly discussing how mass firings and the buyouts already offered to staff risk creating a group of disgruntled former employees who might be motivated to take what they know to a foreign intelligence service.

Speaker 6 The CIA is telling CNN that if their funding gets cut, they're going to sell state secrets to Russia. Who the hell hired these Benedict Arnolds?

Speaker 6 The CIA is supposed to be filled with patriots, not sellouts.

Speaker 6 And the FBI is up to no good too. Michael Schellenberger is reporting, a source inside the FBI says the Bureau is destroying evidence.
Now we know what their accomplishments were last week.

Speaker 6 Dear Elon, I wiped the servers cleaner than crooked.

Speaker 1 So the same employees. Oh, that's a threat.
Same type of people. Hold on.
That's a threat.

Speaker 1 That's them threatening. You guys understand, right? Yeah.
It's a threat.

Speaker 1 Like that's saying, man, you know, if this continues to happen, it would be terrible if, you know, the secrets got out to a foreign intelligence.

Speaker 1 You know what that's called, right? Blackmail. Well, it's treason.
Well, treason. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 You just get hung. You know what I'm saying? No.
Go ahead. Do it.
Yeah. Do it.
Now, I mean, again, like, we see these things using a great way. What secrets do they have anyway?

Speaker 1 What fucking secrets do you motherfuckers have? You got all the naked pictures of all the citizens, so you can blackmail them. You got my 12-inch cockpicks, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, dude, that you know, please don't release it. Well, I mean, they don't publish fiction.
Oh, yeah, right. Well, I mean, they did with Trump, yeah, that's true, might be interested in it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just want to know if aliens are real, okay?

Speaker 2 Can they publish that?

Speaker 1 I'm simple, okay?

Speaker 1 I think they're definitely real, but we got bigger things, though. Like, I mean, like, these are all great things.

Speaker 1 What I want to know, and this is why I'm on

Speaker 1 demon time today.

Speaker 1 What I would like to know is where the fuck is the Epstein list?

Speaker 2 We'll never see it.

Speaker 1 Where is it at?

Speaker 1 Epstein client list release could be imminent after Blackburn pushes transparency. Let them get jailed.
You got Elena Haba. She came on to another interview.

Speaker 1 She says that absolutely expects criminal charges after Epstein files drop today after meeting with Cash Patel and Pam Bondi.

Speaker 1 But, you know, the time right now is 4.20 Central Standard Time, Thursday. It's promised to be 4.20.
It is 4.20. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No Epstein list. Nothing.
Now, what we do know, I mean, we know some things. This is not new news, right? Like, there was a mass release.

Speaker 1 This is, you know, one thing that's going around social media right now is that, you know, vault.fbi.gov. That was from 2017.
That should have been public since 2017.

Speaker 1 Nothing on that website has been updated since.

Speaker 1 You know, here's an article from 2020, right? Like we know some of the things, right? We know some of the names that have been mentioned in court documents.

Speaker 1 We have some of the flight logs, right? Like, but again, this is not new stuff. This is stuff we've known.

Speaker 1 And even that, like, there's still names on there that are redacted, that were left out of the court filings, right? This, this is all stuff from. Go back.
So they got Bill Clinton on there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Not

Speaker 1 redacted, but then they got a redacted name. Right.

Speaker 1 So is that redacted name one of the victims?

Speaker 1 Potentially. Yeah.
Potentially. I mean, like, if they got Bill Clinton on there, why the fuck would they redact someone else? Yeah.
It's much as big as it gets. So that could be one of the victims.

Speaker 1 Potentially, man. And that is what they said.

Speaker 1 They did say the reason it's taking so long is because they have to go through hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages to make sure that the victims aren't public, you know, which

Speaker 1 You didn't have time to do that for last five years.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, the other thing they're saying, too, now is like, apparently the FBI, like, there's some uh treasonous shit going on and they're deleting some stuff, they're holding back.

Speaker 1 Like, I saw this letter circulating that Pam Bondi sent to Cash Patel demanding that everything get to her office by tomorrow morning. But it's just like, I mean, again, like,

Speaker 1 how do you, how are you putting these things on, and then you're still getting railroaded and derailed off the you know, I'm saying you can, it was day one was many days ago,

Speaker 1 many days ago, and like at this point in the game, bro,

Speaker 1 they're risking some heavy stuff, right?

Speaker 1 Public trust is, I mean, well, what they're risking is the entire movement of people that voted for this administration turning against them. Getting completely deflated.
That's what they're risking.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And I know that these people are high on the hog because they just won the election and they're all getting in, but I believe that they are highly underestimating and misjudging where people are with the transparency that we expect.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I will not support this administration if they do

Speaker 1 continue to keep secrets from the American public after all the things that we've been lied to and had forced down our throats and the injustices and the crimes against humanity that have happened over the last four or five years.

Speaker 1 Now, with that being said, I am willing to give them 90 days, as I've said the whole time, because a lot of my friends, when Trump got elected, they're like, dude, it's better than Biden, but this motherfucker is still going to be the same thing.

Speaker 1 And they have no faith.

Speaker 1 I'm not that person.

Speaker 1 I understand, and you understand that when you're building a business or running an organization, things do take time to process.

Speaker 1 And this is a big company. It's the biggest quote-unquote company in the world.
There's lots of layers to it. There's lots of shit to dig through.

Speaker 1 And, you know,

Speaker 1 it takes time. It does.
But look, man,

Speaker 1 If they don't fuck, if they, like today,

Speaker 1 they gave the these influencers. No, you got this? No, no.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about it. You know, they gave all these influencers this binder

Speaker 1 with apparently phase one of the,

Speaker 1 look, we don't need phases, bro. And you know what else we don't need?

Speaker 1 We don't need a bunch of influencers that just kiss ass and go along with everything Trump says to get the information first, okay? And be the disseminators of truth.

Speaker 1 Nobody should be agreeing with anything, with everything anyone says. That's not healthy.
It creates a situation where corruption happens and powers are abused.

Speaker 1 And what's happening and what's materializing is that situation, which was the exact situation on the left. When we watched Jake Tapper deny that Biden was cognitively impaired,

Speaker 1 that's the same thing that's happening over here now, where people are willing to just support

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 they're so drawn in to the MAGA movement. And by the way, look, dude,

Speaker 1 I want to say this. I'm not turning against Donald Trump.
I'm just stating

Speaker 1 that they need to understand very clearly that people expect very much

Speaker 1 different outcomes than what we've been experiencing. Yeah.
Not just the last four years, but the last 30 years.

Speaker 1 And to give these people, and by the way, not a single one of these motherfuckers that got this binder has gone as hard as we have gone. I've done anything.

Speaker 1 We were saying the shit way before it was okay to say when there was actual risk to saying it. And then later people come out and say it.
And those are the motherfuckers, okay?

Speaker 1 And I like some of these people. I don't dislike them.
But let's be fucking real.

Speaker 1 You need to be giving the information to people who are going to be honest about the information that are given to them because that's what's going to restore the trust in society. Okay.

Speaker 1 And yes, nobody trusts mainstream media, but you also gave the information to people that never criticize the administration as well, which isn't any better than giving it than the left giving it to KGP or CNN.

Speaker 1 So like if we want trust restored, we have to give it to people who are openly

Speaker 1 I don't know, I don't even want to say critical, but at least like critical thinkers who will call things the way they see it. And by them giving it to only people that support,

Speaker 1 it makes me think that they're trying to hide shit. Yeah.
You know,

Speaker 1 I don't know. Like it doesn't make me feel good.
I think that's bullshit. And by the way, I know a lot of influencers who have done a lot of the heavy lifting before any of those people did it.

Speaker 1 Before any of them did it.

Speaker 1 You know, when there was risk to saying it. Yeah.
Risk of losing gyms. Yeah.
Jobs. Fucking companies.
I mean,

Speaker 1 a lot of the arrows arrows have already been fucking taken.

Speaker 1 These people sweep in behind them and, you know,

Speaker 1 it's really, really fucking annoying. What do you think, dude? You don't think it's going to come out?

Speaker 2 No, I don't. I think there'd be too much

Speaker 2 repercussions. I think there's too many key people that was involved.
And that's why I think it's personally taking so long.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't disagree with you, dude.

Speaker 2 And, you know, the administration does promise transparency.

Speaker 2 I mean, it was one of their core mantras of getting back into the office but this particular topic i think is gonna the can's gonna go and go and go yeah

Speaker 1 it all it almost makes me think like what are they distracting us from dude well you know it made me think of something because that's all people are talking about right now so what else is going on what's happening right right and like it made me think and like you know i've been watching this this develop we haven't really talked about it on the show um i don't believe we've covered it at all but i've been like keeping my eye on it.

Speaker 1 And we got to go to Germany, right? Because I don't know if you guys understand what just happened in Germany, but it's kind of fucked, right? So you have German, you have the AFD party, right?

Speaker 1 Which is equivalent to the rights, you know, America's right conservative side. You have this dude make all these fucking promises on the campaign trail, bro, right? All these fucking promises.

Speaker 1 Truth, transparency, bring German culture together. Close borders.
Close borders. Courtiers.
Deportation. Handle the migrant issues, right? All of these things.

Speaker 1 He gets elected and then goes on the stage at his very first meeting and say he's not doing any of that shit. You got to remember what we talked about earlier.

Speaker 2 They have these conversations behind closed doors on both sides of the aisle, right? And so

Speaker 2 it's a game of controlling media and controlling a narrative, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the more people see it,

Speaker 1 it's very, it's very frustrating to watch.

Speaker 2 Um, I do think our biggest hope in this equation is Elon, by the way. I think he is down the, like, down the middle.
He just wants what's right.

Speaker 1 You see, I don't see it that way. Yeah.
Yeah. I see it.
I see Elon with a lot to gain personally.

Speaker 1 I like Elon. I like Trump.
But I, it makes me like when we talk about, you know,

Speaker 1 what he has to gain, it's a lot. And it is.
Yeah. And so, you know, directly or indirectly, he's gaining a lot from it.
Yeah. I, I,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, he's all about Neuralink.
He's all about transhumanism. He's all about AI and robotics.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we'll talk about that on the next topic, but like, those are things that really concern me about him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's my world, though. I know.
You got to understand.

Speaker 2 I do have a little bit of favoritism. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But you also got to remember he walked away from

Speaker 2 ChatGPT because it was getting,

Speaker 2 do you know about that? He was one of the original founders of ChatGPT, and

Speaker 2 they were going too far with it, and he sued the other primary shareholders.

Speaker 2 And they, they did resolve it, but he, he was like, guys, this is going too far, too fast.

Speaker 1 So you believe he has a moral standard about it?

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
And,

Speaker 2 you know, there's, there's some things that I do know that I can't just say or openly talk about.

Speaker 2 He has a very strong moral standard.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But that's, that's one that's public that people can reference is when he had a lot to gain, right? Chat GPT was one of the fastest growing companies ever, right?

Speaker 2 And it was the fastest growing platform ever to hit a million active daily users, so on and so forth.

Speaker 2 And he was like, no, this ain't right.

Speaker 2 Fuck you guys and well they resolved it yeah i mean look

Speaker 1 i i'm not saying you're wrong i'm just saying i'm not sure yet yeah you know what i'm saying yeah there's still some some pudding that got to be put no look i i i lean into the the trump administration and and i'm republican have no problem representing that yeah there does have to be

Speaker 1 equal transparency, you know, like there well, the trust has been eroded so hard, bro. We have have to have you have to restore it.
It's extra transparency. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You have to restore it by going over and beyond.

Speaker 2 And, and,

Speaker 2 you know, so they've got their work cut out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree, dude.

Speaker 2 They got their work cut out, but I do believe

Speaker 2 Trump and Elon and the core team, at the end of the day, they do really want that.

Speaker 2 And they're going to work. They do have powers fighting against them, right? Yeah.
Everyone thinks that when the president's in the office, they have all the say. Yeah.
And it's in reality.

Speaker 1 Well, we learned that the first Trump administration. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And in reality, there's a lot of roadblocks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of roadblocks. And guys, for people listening, I'm not an expert on anything government.
I just want to, you know, say that.

Speaker 1 Well, it would be no different if you took over a company that had a bad, if you took over a company that had a bad culture, okay?

Speaker 1 And they know that you stand for these things and that's just not the way we do things here. Okay.
You're going to have your work cut out for you cleaning that out. It's hard.

Speaker 1 You have to identify all the little culture cancers. You have to cut them out.

Speaker 1 And that is what they're doing.

Speaker 1 It's a process. But like, dude, I don't like the way they're going about this.
I really don't. It makes me trust them less.
That's all I'm saying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 People deserve to know the truth. If we were being...

Speaker 1 If all of the people that are influential in our media and Hollywood are being leveraged to promote certain propaganda or do certain things or put certain messages out to us.

Speaker 1 We deserve to know those things. And we already know that USAID has been doing this.
Soros has been doing this.

Speaker 1 He's getting in big trouble right now because he bought all those radio stations so that he could propaganda.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 My thing is like, if they are, and if they are being leveraged, cool. By who?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, we deserve to know that. Well, that's why we have to do that.

Speaker 2 If you remember,

Speaker 2 Mark Zuckerberg released a letter stating that

Speaker 2 he was throttling traffic during the last elections. He admitted he came clean on everything and posted it himself.

Speaker 1 Do you think he came clean on everything or do you think he came clean on what he did? I can't. He had to.

Speaker 2 I'm not friends with Mark.

Speaker 2 I don't know. But that is like, those are the things that I remember and just gives me hope.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That there are,

Speaker 2 you know, Mark is arguably one of the most influential people in the world. For sure.
And he stepped out on a limb, exposing himself. So that gives me hope that.

Speaker 2 Well, see, the way I look at that, we can go in the right direction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, man, but I look at that differently. I look at that like, okay,

Speaker 1 when

Speaker 1 they were in office, the Biden administration, which are communists,

Speaker 1 he did what he could to play ball with them.

Speaker 1 And the real test would be, what would happen

Speaker 1 if those progressive people

Speaker 1 got back in power?

Speaker 1 Would he stand up to them now or would he just go back the way he was?

Speaker 2 Based on his new swagger, I think he would stand up.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, here's how I look at it, too. Like, I think, you know, because you mentioned a word there, hope.

Speaker 1 What is hope meant to do?

Speaker 2 Hope is meant to influence change, in my opinion.

Speaker 1 Well, see, I look at hope. I think hope is meant to stall people from action.
It's to pacify. Yeah.
Right. And so it's like, you know, what better way you got the American people.

Speaker 1 Now, there's two different kinds of hope. You're right.

Speaker 1 Hope can inspire action. For sure.
Yeah. But it can also inspire complacency when people look around.
And our citizenship is conditioned to wait for someone else.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's how.
And that's my thing. It's like, it's like, all right, so you got all these American, like millions of us pissed.
What better way to calm them down? Put out a fucking letter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no problem.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Cool, whatever.
No, I get it. And, and I love both, like, I love all these opinions, you know, but I, I look at everything from an optimistic lens.

Speaker 1 That's what most entrepreneurs do.

Speaker 2 But there's a lot of mental training that went into that, you know.

Speaker 2 If I did not do all that self-work and discipline, I would see hope differently myself. Like if I, if I couldn't compartmentalize, if that makes sense.
For sure, dude.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, it depends on your perspective. That's right.
Yeah. And where you are.
But I can tell you this.

Speaker 1 I know for sure that the American people are in a place of when

Speaker 1 they feel hope as a whole right now, culture,

Speaker 1 it's to paralyze. Something's going to happen.
Something's going to happen. Trust the plan.
It's all going to work out. Eat your popcorn.
Right. Those,

Speaker 1 that's where people are right now. So that's a dangerous place to be.
It is, man. Because we forfeit our actions as citizens onto

Speaker 1 other people's backs.

Speaker 1 That may not exist.

Speaker 1 We don't know. I mean, look, dude,

Speaker 1 I like Trump. I do too.
I fucking like his family. I like what he says.
I think he's fucking hilarious. I think he's badass.
I mean, bro, he's 80 years old. He works harder than anybody I know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 but I don't like the way this is being handled. It's just, I don't like it.
It makes me doubt. It makes me have concerns.
And that doesn't make me comfortable. And

Speaker 1 I don't like the way that they only recognize influencers that fucking only

Speaker 1 agree with everything they say. I agree with that.
It's got to be both sides for

Speaker 2 change to happen.

Speaker 1 For sure.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what real truth and honesty looks like, man.

Speaker 1 But like, I mean, now to your, you know, you guys also brought up this about distractions.

Speaker 1 And, you know, because like that's always been my stance, right? Like, okay, like, the big game's here, cool, but what's happening over here, right? Like, you know, you got the big smoke screen.

Speaker 1 What's happening behind that? And, you know, it is interesting, Andy, because you've also mentioned many a times, bro, like, you know, they have, you know, the deep state.

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't, like, here's the fallacy that I think too many people get into, like that Trump's in office and everything's going to be just fine.

Speaker 1 Like you said, he got plenty of people that are fighting against him. We know we have deep state.
And I'm of the belief that I think the deep state still has a lot of control on a lot of things.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we talked about red button pushes. I don't know.
But this is something interesting.

Speaker 1 LAX is on red alert right now because some foreign traveler just brought in a deadly disease somehow and it infected an unknown number of American citizens.

Speaker 2 Well, I believe

Speaker 2 it was on your show that you believe that the COVID 2.0 is going to hit. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it's funny you say that because it also comes out that the Wuhan Bat Lab linked to COVID pandemic is carrying out an ominous new virus experience and they just created a COVID 2.0. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, look, I was talking to Sean Ryan about this yesterday on the phone.

Speaker 1 These people who are in control are very dangerous when they are at the risk of being exposed for how much influence and how much control they have. And right now, that's happening.

Speaker 1 And there could be a number of things happening here it could be there's people implicated so they're trying to slow roll the fucking list out it could be that

Speaker 1 trump administration has intel that if this happens then this will happen meaning

Speaker 1 because because like let's be real bro everybody knows what the fucking epstein shit was okay like epstein was a mossad operation for collecting intelligence which means it comes from israel which means it fuels the fire of it being what people like to say now the jews okay but the reality is it is the government of Israel, a lot of which are not even Semitic Jews.

Speaker 1 Okay. So it's a corrupt government who is responsible for an operation and it does not go to the rest of the world of Jews.

Speaker 1 Period. All right.
But the problem with it is, is they could know that

Speaker 1 Meaning Trump could know that

Speaker 1 if this were to come out, it could fuel that fire because, dude, people are already talking about it. It's out in the open, dude.

Speaker 1 You look all over TikTok, you look all over Instagram, you look all over Twitter. Everybody's talking about the Jews, okay?

Speaker 1 What happens if this comes out and it confirms that Israel was behind an operation that was raping children for Intel? What does that do? Right. to the to the cultural place of the world.

Speaker 1 It creates a mass hysteria against a certain group of people when, in reality, in my opinion, it shouldn't be focused on a certain race of people or religion of people.

Speaker 1 It should be focused on the actual people who fucking are responsible for it.

Speaker 1 Okay. The individuals with names and addresses, okay, who also manipulate those people.

Speaker 1 So when we talk about

Speaker 1 it, it could be this too. It could be they are aware of a plan to release COVID 2.0 if this information comes out and implicates Mossad in some sort of child sex trafficking shit.

Speaker 1 So there, dude, this is chess. And as much as it pisses me off that the shit's not just coming out, there's probably some strategic reasons that have to do with the safety of human beings

Speaker 1 that is being manipulated for a reason. And I think that's what we all need to really stop and take a breath about.
Because

Speaker 1 how hard, do you think that these people, if they knew that the whole world was going to come down on them, do we not think that they have plans to handle that? I mean, bro, they have

Speaker 1 what they have a, Israel has a,

Speaker 1 they have that fucking, the Hannibal directive where they'll fucking, they, they launch a nuclear weapon to destroy, like if they, if they are threatened, they can nuke the whole world. So like

Speaker 1 there's, there's all kinds of shit that could be happening here that we don't know

Speaker 1 because the reality of the situation is, that a lot of our own government is manipulated by Mossad and black male by Mossad. And everybody fucking knows that already.

Speaker 1 So I hesitate to lump any race of people into a category. I don't think that because a black person does things, does something that that makes all black people bad.

Speaker 1 I don't think that because a Christian does something bad, that makes all Christians bad.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that when some Jewish people at the top of a government do something bad, that that equates to all Jewish people. I know it doesn't.

Speaker 1 And I think we as human beings need to have more reasonable conversations. And it's hard to do with all the big voices out there screaming that it's an actual race as opposed to,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 individual people that are evil. And so, you know, that's how I feel about it.

Speaker 1 Like, but the truth of the matter is, the real reason it's not coming out is because it's going to implicate our biggest ally in one of the most disgusting intel collecting operations.

Speaker 1 And it's probably going to implicate our own intelligence services as well. So,

Speaker 1 you know, let's be real. That's why it's not coming out because the shit is so disgusting that the average person is going to be like, what the fuck is going on?

Speaker 2 It would create, my belief is it simply will create more mistrust and counterreact

Speaker 2 the efforts that they're doing to try to put trust into the American people.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, dude, look.

Speaker 1 We deserve to know either way. That's my opinion.
And the people who are responsible for things like that deserve death. That's my opinion too.

Speaker 1 You know, and,

Speaker 1 you know, there's a reason that the propaganda for the last seven, eight years has been very heavy towards,

Speaker 1 well, you know, it's been phased, right? It's been heavy towards LGBTQIA plus,

Speaker 1 but then it was hijacked by trans people. And then they started normalizing.
pedophilia by calling them maps, you know, minor attractive persons.

Speaker 1 And if we look at the propaganda that's been put out and who's been putting it out, okay, which is, you know, people like Soros putting out this progressive propaganda.

Speaker 1 And we look at all the messaging, who's been putting it out,

Speaker 1 it stands to reason in my mind that

Speaker 1 they're trying to normalize something that they're all complicit in before it actually comes out. Meaning, they can get the population.
Meaning,

Speaker 1 we're going to get the population to agree that people who are attracted to minors can't help it. And,

Speaker 1 you know, like they're doing in Europe now where they're getting little kids, they're arguing for little kids to have consent to have sexual relations with an adult. That is fact.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That's happening in many countries in Europe. Child consent laws.

Speaker 1 A child can consent who they want to have sex with, no matter if that person is 40 years old, okay, or whatever. It doesn't matter.
Why would they do that?

Speaker 1 Well, the reason that I think they would do that is because it's fucking insane.

Speaker 1 And the reason that I think they would do that is because they're so fucking into that shit and they know it's coming out that they don't want to be burned at the stake when it comes out. But

Speaker 1 their efforts to normalize that have failed. So where does that leave us now? And I think that's a very delicate situation to unravel when you have a government

Speaker 1 Maybe two governments, and then an organization like the World Economic Forum that's made up of the most powerful people in the world,

Speaker 1 all guilty of this shit.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's, it's, you know,

Speaker 1 like, it's dangerous. Release it, bro.
Yeah. I, I, look, that's where I'm at, too, because I've been in talking about this for so long.
Release it. But I do, I,

Speaker 1 that's the only, those are the reasons that I can think of why it's being done the way it's done. I don't agree with the way it's done.
Right. But that's my breakdown of what could be why.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Guys, jumping on this conversation. Let us know down in the comments what you guys think.

Speaker 1 With that being said, let's get to our final headline. We got headline number three.

Speaker 1 AI. Yeah.
So let's have some conversations about it. I got some interesting stuff here.
So this first headline is Goku, a Chinese open source model challenges open AI in the U.S. Have you seen this?

Speaker 1 Are you familiar with Goku?

Speaker 2 Not super familiar with Goku, aware of it, but know more about DeepSeek. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, so China just came out with this new, it's from ByteDance, and they launched what's called Goku, which is an advanced AI model for image and video generation. Right.

Speaker 1 Okay, now I'm going to show you guys some clips here. All right.
I'm going to show you two clips, and I want you to tell me which one is AI and which one's not. Okay,

Speaker 1 here's clip one.

Speaker 1 If you're listening to an audio, you got to come over to YouTube.

Speaker 1 And that's clip two.

Speaker 9 Which one's AI?

Speaker 1 I thought the second one, too. Okay, well, jokes on both of you because it's both.

Speaker 1 Well, the second one looked more AI. Yeah, no, these are both AI-generated videos.

Speaker 1 All of these.

Speaker 1 I mean, that one looks way more AI.

Speaker 1 This is AI.

Speaker 1 This is AI.

Speaker 1 This is AI.

Speaker 1 This is also AI. It's going to put influencers out of business.
Bro, for sure. Bro.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 listen. Influencers don't want to work.
A lot of them don't want to work. They don't want to do the shit right.
They don't want to do things right.

Speaker 1 They want to fucking, a lot of them want to just get paid for existing. And that's going to, these people, this is going to kill their business.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm partners

Speaker 2 with a

Speaker 2 Instagram page called the AI Surfer. And if you watch all that content, it's all AI video.
Every piece of it.

Speaker 2 And we get thousands and thousands of new followers every day, hundreds and hundreds of DMs every single day. And every single video is generated by AI.

Speaker 1 So how long does it take them to generate a video like that?

Speaker 2 Five to 15 minutes depending on the depth that we want to go with it.

Speaker 1 And this is as simple as like, okay, like here's a bottle of water. You know, take a picture of this, prompt the AI, hey, I need to add around.

Speaker 2 It depends. So here's the truth about AI.
Yes, it's advancing fast. It's the fastest technology that's ever been created, but it also still requires a really intelligent human to use it.

Speaker 2 That's the brutal truth, right?

Speaker 2 You know, sales AI, chat GPT, all these platforms that you can reference, if you put shit in, you get shit out. It's still driven by the human.

Speaker 2 So I like to say AI is great, but the human takes it across the finish line.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but even Gen AI, that's starting to come out, right?

Speaker 2 Videos, that's different, right? But we're talking day-to-day society. It's still going to require a workforce that knows how to intelligently work it, right?

Speaker 2 It's going to have an impact on labor work. It's going to have an impact on call centers and desk jobs and content and all of those that people already talk about.

Speaker 2 But it's also going to create the opportunity to upskill and upscale lower wage employees to earn more to be more intelligent, right?

Speaker 1 It's just like

Speaker 2 the way I talk about it is I didn't live in these days, only any of us did, but

Speaker 2 like farming when the tractor came out. Oh, you don't need a gas-powered machine.

Speaker 1 We just plow our fields.

Speaker 2 Well, the guys that never bought the tractor are out of business, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any doubt about that. Yeah.
It's just what are the implications of

Speaker 1 that technology on business culture and humanity as a whole. And I think that's where, you know, people are fit, you know, let me, so I'm older than you guys.
All right.

Speaker 1 I remember when the internet came about. All right.
I remember very clearly. At first, it was very simple shit.
It was, you could get online and kind of talk to your buddies.

Speaker 1 You could look up naked chicks. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was cool.
Yeah, it was just, it was just very simple.

Speaker 1 You could send letters to your friends you could get on aol messenger and you know go back and forth

Speaker 1 it was cool

Speaker 1 um then e-comm started to show up on you know

Speaker 1 on the internet amazon was one of the first companies that really came around

Speaker 1 for 10 15 years all these companies that came on the internet,

Speaker 1 they did not have to collect sales tax. All right.

Speaker 1 So because they didn't have to collect sales tax, they had a 10, an 8 to 12% margin advantage over brick and mortar, mom and pop retail locations, whether that be a grocery store, bookstore, fucking supplement store, anything.

Speaker 1 Anything sold, they had a 10% price advantage, which means they could sell for 10% less than all of the companies out here that employed the majority of humanity. All right.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that created a situation where people would go on Amazon and they would buy things for less. So the argument used to be, I go on Amazon because it's cheaper.
It's cheaper than everybody.

Speaker 1 And it was, because they had an unfair tax advantage. It took many, many years, over a decade for that to be put on to these companies.

Speaker 1 But by that time, the behavior had been modeled and cultivated for people to shop there. And when that started to happen, now they lean into convenience.

Speaker 1 So now the consumer has been trained to buy for convenience over price. How many people will pay extra to get the shit today or tomorrow than they, you know, than a week from now? Almost everybody.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that all spawned off of an unfair advantage that ended up creating obsolete businesses that employ human beings. And I watched it happen.
I've seen it happen. You know, I've watched it happen.

Speaker 1 And so now this is the biggest thing that's come along since then.

Speaker 1 And I think it's much bigger.

Speaker 1 And now we have a situation where we have technology that can do the job, not just of one human, but many humans inside an organization.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that makes sense. Like I could run my company much cheaper based upon implementing AI.

Speaker 1 But that means that people in my community aren't going to have jobs and aren't going to have income.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 if everybody's doing it. Hold on.
If everybody's doing it, we just have a separation of classes. We have people getting more and higher paid positions and then we have people less.
So

Speaker 1 my concern with AI.

Speaker 1 I mean, is where are we going to be? Because like, dude, like you said, it's so fast. Where are we going to be

Speaker 1 in five years well i mean dude tesla's already got humanoid robots yep what happens when they're autonomous on ai and can like you just say hey robot go build me a fucking house and three three robots that have the superhuman strength that you bought for 20 grand a piece go out and build you a house and now you have a construction company of you know because like that's the biggest thing like all the labor guys the guys who do houses and construction or trade skills land a pipe yeah they'll always they'll yeah they'll always that's gonna change too they're gonna change all right yeah so but dude they'll always say well they can't do my job or an artist like a woodcrafter will be like can't do my motherfucker you don't think that that fucking robot can make better looking shit than you like and they could do it without rest without complaining without pay after the sunk cost there's no union so dude what i'm saying here and and like look we can argue the ethics of it night and day But here's the reality it's fucking here and it's happening.

Speaker 1 Yes, so how

Speaker 1 how do you see that playing out?

Speaker 1 Um, because I agree with you dude like

Speaker 1 look if we're competing against

Speaker 1 Other like just take my company

Speaker 1 first form here if we're competing against other companies like let's say Nike and fucking Nike does AI and their margins go to the moon and your margins are fucking little because of like you're gonna get put out of business and those people aren't gonna have jobs anyway right so like it's it's it's hard

Speaker 1 as an entrepreneur

Speaker 1 that cares

Speaker 1 about their people

Speaker 1 to really

Speaker 1 understand how to properly leverage and utilize it

Speaker 1 you know without putting yourself out of business you know what i mean it's just a hard it's it's i don't it's risk and reward right like it's well bro i i just

Speaker 1 i mean what do you think dude yeah because you're a morally great, you're a great dude. Yeah.
Like, you care about people. I do.

Speaker 2 I'm honestly most proud of raising a family, building a team, and employing people within my community.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I'm also a proponent of I do save companies a lot of money. I do hit cogs hard on a PL.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And max, you know, maximizing that, right?

Speaker 2 So I really try to ride the middle line and not take a defensive stance of I want to replace humans and/or, you know, keep humans. I ride the line of adapt or die.

Speaker 1 Well, that's that's reality. And

Speaker 2 so I just try to stick to reality with it. I get these hard questions all the time, especially you got to remember my business

Speaker 2 can work 24-7, 365 days in your business. So let's say you have 100 people on this floor doing customer support.
I can replace that with one software.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And handle 48,000 calls a minute. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And never miss a beat, know every single product, take the customer complaints, do the refund, fill in the tickets, all.

Speaker 1 No, you showed it to me last time you were here. Here we called it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And so, you know, yes, I'm feeding the beast of it couldn't make that negative impact, but I try to take the stance that lean into it now because here's the reality of you're in early adoption phase.

Speaker 2 You're not in your buying cycle and you're not nowhere near the peak. So this would be like getting on the internet in 2001 or it'd be like if first form was only an e-comm business in 2001, right?

Speaker 2 You'd have a huge advantage nowadays, right? If you went all in on that, right?

Speaker 2 So that's what I try to encourage people is lean into it, become masters in these subtopics because AI is going to hit every industry.

Speaker 2 So, if you're in construction, how can you embrace it now and become a force to be reckoned with by embracing it and leading change throughout the industries? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 What do you think the relationship will be between humans and AI? Because, like, I mean, I have this other article that came up too. This just came out

Speaker 1 that AI chatbots posing as therapists could have dangerous and violent consequences. So, now they're training AI

Speaker 1 chatbots to

Speaker 1 like be actual therapists to real humans now, right? Like, I mean, so like, what do you see?

Speaker 1 Do you see the relationship as like a beneficial one? Right. Because like, I mean, we, we've talked, I mean, like, there's plenty of therapists out there that do great work and are helpful.
Cool.

Speaker 1 But there's also a lot that also take advantage

Speaker 1 of

Speaker 1 problems that could be easily solved by it's called life, motherfucker. It's hard.
Right.

Speaker 1 Right. You know? So it's like, I mean, how do you look at the relationship of humans and AI outside of even just the business

Speaker 1 space, right? Like, how do you look at it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I look at it that it's going to take time for the average consumer to gain trust and even become aware

Speaker 2 of realities. You know, there's certain Fortune 500 companies that I already work with that you're already interacting with on an everyday basis and you have no idea.

Speaker 2 But we encourage those companies to be upfront about this usage. And most of them do in some way, shape, or form.

Speaker 2 Simply, the phone rings, it answers and says, hey, this is an AI assistant with X company. Right.

Speaker 2 But, you know, it's like a loaded firearm. You can save the day or you can cause havoc.
And so.

Speaker 2 People that have good intentions and that are in the field of AI will make the world a better place. And people that have ill intentions will make the world a worse place.
I kind of leave it.

Speaker 2 Again, I take that middle, that middle lane with it.

Speaker 2 And I think humans,

Speaker 2 they thrive off of convenience, right?

Speaker 2 Well, AI is going to make things a lot more convenient.

Speaker 2 I was just in Miami earlier this week, and there's AI bots delivering food, right? You can get your food in 10 minutes versus 30. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 You're going to use that robot, right?

Speaker 2 So humans are going to adjust.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, dude, that's, I mean, look, dude, there's not a a person with a brain in business that doesn't understand that Amazon's a bad thing for business. It's bad.
It's not good. It's bad.

Speaker 1 It's bad for your, it's bad for your local

Speaker 1 your local community. Amazon's not out there sponsoring t-ball teams and fucking shit like that, okay?

Speaker 1 It's capitalism, which I can respect, but I also respect the boundaries of capitalism, meaning

Speaker 1 I think there's ethical capitalism and I think there's unethical capitalism. And I think,

Speaker 1 you when we start talking about convenience

Speaker 1 and, you know, like, okay,

Speaker 1 like when you start tying this all together about where this is going, it sort of makes sense as to why they want to depopulate the planet because they don't fucking need a workforce anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't need Uber Eats. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 you're going deep here, Andy. I know.
Yeah, but like.

Speaker 1 Well, no, but what do you do? What do you do?

Speaker 1 with all the people who aren't going to have a job. I mean, do they go on universal basic income? Like, what? Because that's the option.

Speaker 1 There's early outlines of that.

Speaker 1 A form

Speaker 2 has been created to help offset the impact of artificial intelligence into day-to-day jobs. That is a real thing that is in place.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you're saying they're trying to make some guidelines about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're also trying to make,

Speaker 2 I do some advisory work on,

Speaker 2 you know, the governmental use of AI and whatnot and they are working day in and day out right now on how to set the guardrails well that's hard to do bro because what china doesn't set any

Speaker 2 correct it's it's like gdpr and then the united states doesn't have anything right it's like canada has castle again we don't have anything right it's going to create unity worldwide to create that standard But right now, where it's the reality of it is it's state by state.

Speaker 2 And fun fact, fact, do you want to guess what state has the most advanced AI policies?

Speaker 1 Any guesses?

Speaker 2 It's Indiana.

Speaker 2 Indiana is the most advanced AI government in the United States.

Speaker 1 You mean about like as far as regulation-wise?

Speaker 2 Proposed regulate, again, all of it's in proposal. Yeah.
Right. Because it's the way they're going about it right now is from the big governments.

Speaker 2 They're trying to take it through TCPA, which that was created 20-something years ago when it was trying to stop spam robots and whatnot.

Speaker 2 It's not even, they're trying to lump it into cell phone calls when it's totally different. So they're messing up there.
That's why it keeps getting up and down, up and down.

Speaker 2 They keep saying, hey, now here's this regulation, then taking it down. They just took it down again on trying to put TCPA regulations on AI generated use for business.

Speaker 2 It's gone already.

Speaker 2 But no, what I mean by that from the state of Indiana has been implementing AI for like six, seven years now.

Speaker 2 In their government building, there's three floors. It's AI of how to

Speaker 2 use data faster, make better decisions. I mean,

Speaker 2 their intentions and how they're going about it is awesome. It's how do we make the convenience of the everyday worker better?

Speaker 1 So they're going about it great.

Speaker 2 But yeah, they're the most advanced in the United States.

Speaker 1 So what do you think? Because I have an opinion on this, but what do you think? Like, let's just talk about the influencer thing for a minute, right?

Speaker 1 Because influencers have created a situation where people who otherwise don't have,

Speaker 1 it's made content creation a career, all right? Correct. And

Speaker 1 a lot of people make a lot of money doing it.

Speaker 1 Clearly, and Gary Vee talks about this too. He's like, dude, influencer, you're fucking done.
Like, you're done.

Speaker 1 And I can tell you why they're done.

Speaker 1 They're done because managing influencers and egos that go with influencers is nearly impossible. It's insane.
It's it's

Speaker 1 they don't want to post the right way. They want to do things their way that are ineffective.
And then you have to pay them. And it's just become this fucking huge cluster fuck.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 now there are good influencers that do really good things and they try hard.

Speaker 1 How do you feel

Speaker 1 people like that or even just people who want to have a career?

Speaker 1 Because, look, man, part of being fulfilled and part of being happy as a human is, you know, happiness is not skipping through the field of daisies doing nothing.

Speaker 1 Like, we are built as human beings to contribute, to create, to become.

Speaker 1 And that's what creates a lot of fulfillment for a lot of people.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I spoke about this long before Trump did, but Trump got on stage and said, oh, you you know why depression is such a big deal?

Speaker 1 Because people are fucking lazy and they don't have enough shit to do. They don't work hard enough.
It's really hard to be depressed when you're working really hard.

Speaker 1 It's really hard to be depressed when you're creating and contributing and focused on becoming. And he's correct there.
So if we make a world that's more convenient,

Speaker 1 what's that going to do to the mental health status of humanity as a whole? That's a concern of mine. But

Speaker 1 speaking on,

Speaker 1 and by the way, this is no way me denying that this is going to happen. Like, it's fucking happening.
It's already the

Speaker 1 shit's out of the box already. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So if you're a person, right, and you're like in a company

Speaker 1 and you know that your job is vulnerable to being replaced by AI,

Speaker 1 what do you think? How can people defend themselves around those things?

Speaker 2 Well, right now, and again, going back to buying cycles is you're still in the very infancies of it.

Speaker 2 And so people that latch on and realize AI is not going anywhere have a huge advantage within large corporations because most large corporations have antiquated leadership styles and very slow to adopt.

Speaker 2 There's companies still moving to the cloud and still implementing CRMs. I mean, it's been 20-something years of that technology, right?

Speaker 1 In places in our government that still use typewriters, bro. Bro,

Speaker 2 the government still fucking stores paper files in mines yeah yeah it's insanity so if you're in that okay this is happening i'm gonna be i'm gonna lean into it you actually have a path to make huge impact within that corporation and create such a layer of protection for yourself because you'll be a source of truth

Speaker 2 You know, a lot of leadership and a lot of big companies are older.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And they can barely even get on their iPhone and open up Facebook, let alone understand the capabilities of implementing AI into a

Speaker 2 10,000 person organization. For sure.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So the young generation that's in the workforce now, you know, needs to learn the technology.

Speaker 2 Needs to learn the technology

Speaker 2 because they will replace, you know, you don't run a company when you're 100. You know, so that leadership's going to cycle.

Speaker 2 And those young leaders are going to step up to the plate with proactive agendas to be able to keep the organization going. So, I think it personally

Speaker 2 greatest opportunity zones the world has ever seen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for some people for sure, no doubt.

Speaker 2 Um, but you go to lazy, but you get your lazy people, it just shows up they're gonna get crushed either way, they're gonna get crushed either way. That's the reality.

Speaker 1 So, well, they're getting crushed now because the same thing, it's just it's different,

Speaker 1 but yeah, yeah, so

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 on the influencer standpoint, how I see, I think influencers that are very authentic and have the ability to create an actual connection with people will be fine.

Speaker 2 They'll be fine.

Speaker 1 You will be the anomaly and it will make you more valuable. But bro, that just isn't the culture in influencers anymore.
No. It was in 2016.
It was in 2018.

Speaker 1 But now it's everybody's fucking Tom Cruise, bro, and everybody's a celebrity. And, you know, I'm not posting it like that.
Well, that's the way that converts.

Speaker 1 Well, that's not on, that's not in my brand dynamic. Well, then fuck off.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like, and, and dude, those people are all going to get replaced with these people because you can't tell the fucking difference.

Speaker 1 No, bro, there's AI pages right now of OnlyFans chicks that fucking have, that are making fucking millions of fucking dollars, bro. And it's a fucking cart.

Speaker 1 It's a, it's a fake, it's not even a real person. Yeah.
Wild.

Speaker 2 Again, we have a page that has almost 400,000 followers. We started with zero just like everyone else, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And we did that in a year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And all those videos is AI.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's insane. It's crazy, dude.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's wild, man. This stuff is.
Dude, you know what I like, dude? You know what really scares me, man? Is when these fucking things...

Speaker 1 Like, isn't it possible for AI to become like its own prompting source? Meaning, like, like, right now, you're saying.

Speaker 2 It already happens.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, so

Speaker 1 it so it doesn't really matter the intelligence of the human because eventually they're going to be prompting themselves.

Speaker 2 So, AI is the first

Speaker 2 computer program that one plus one doesn't equal two. It could be one plus one equals a black hole, right?

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 1 if anyone What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2 People don't understand how

Speaker 2 prompting this gets this

Speaker 2 and and no one has exactly figured it out you also got to understand ai has been in big business since the 90s just no one could afford it like unless you were microsoft or google you couldn't afford to have a data center that burns three million dollars a month in hydrogen and everything to to run these things right but now the open source models like Chat GPT, they were the front runner, have brought it to the average person, right?

Speaker 2 It's it's like the cell phone evolution, right?

Speaker 2 A cell phone used to be $50,000 and weighed 200 pounds, right?

Speaker 1 It came in a bag. Yeah, I've seen pictures.

Speaker 2 I didn't see those days, but I did.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The ones in the car, the ones in the car.

Speaker 2 But now, if you don't have a cell phone, like, what are you doing, right? You know, so we're going through that, that, that evolution. And, um, but yeah, people think AI was like this new thing.

Speaker 2 And it's been around.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is new for people.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's been around a long time, though.

Speaker 1 What do you think of like Terminator?

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 no, I'm being serious, bro. Like,

Speaker 1 here's what fucking scares me. Here's what scares me.
You've seen fucking Terminator. What's that movie with Will Smith? I am robot.
I am a robot. Okay, but fucking dude, we see this shit.
Like,

Speaker 1 all right, man, that robot's pretty cool. What happens when it starts thinking for itself? And what happens when you say something? Oh, it's doing that.

Speaker 1 What happens when the AI wants to fuck your chick? Right. And then all of a sudden, it beats your ass and takes your chick.
And it lasts longer than two minutes.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, that's dangerous, bro.

Speaker 2 You want to watch a really awesome TV series? Watch Cassandra or Cassandra on Netflix.

Speaker 1 It's literally that. Oh, really? Yeah.
Is it scary like that? Oh, is that the mom sick from cancer? And like, they, the, she hires, like, the AI. Who's it? Isn't that what's name? What's her name?

Speaker 2 No, this is a different one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What's it about?

Speaker 2 So this family buys this. It was like one of the first smart homes.

Speaker 2 It was like built in the 70s or whatever.

Speaker 1 Like Jarvis or something.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's like computer monitors that can, it's like Alexa on a TV screen. Okay, it's like this lady, and her name's Cassandra.

Speaker 1 That's the computer.

Speaker 2 Yes, the computer. And the whole basement is the computer program.
Like,

Speaker 2 just imagine a data center in the basement running this thing, right?

Speaker 2 And the family's like, oh, it's probably, you know, it's so old, it probably doesn't work. Kid goes to the basement, turns it on, and this thing just pops up.

Speaker 2 Well, then they find the actual robot as well. So it starts off robots like cutting the grass and cooking, like all these amazing benefits, right?

Speaker 2 But then

Speaker 2 it becomes obsessed with its past

Speaker 2 and wants to become the mother of the kids and be

Speaker 2 not necessarily in a relationship with the husband, but wants to run the household and does all these. series of events to get the mom to be deemed crazy and she gets put into a mental ward.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about, dude.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm talking about. Like, dude, like, like, what happens?

Speaker 1 That's the robot. Yeah, what happens when, like, when, when, when, you know,

Speaker 1 the police are, like, are all fucking AI robots?

Speaker 2 Well, you know, I could speak more.

Speaker 1 That's scary for me.

Speaker 2 So I passed.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I bought

Speaker 1 the racist once.

Speaker 2 I bought a G G1 robot. The Tesla one? No.

Speaker 1 Look up.

Speaker 1 G1 robot?

Speaker 2 G1 robot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It gets here in two months.

Speaker 1 you bought this thing? I did, yeah. How much was it?

Speaker 2 Um, I bought like everything maxed out, like 65,000.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 2 But we bought it for trade shows. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's it do?

Speaker 2 Uh, whatever you want it to, yeah.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 yep, that's it. G1 humanoid.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You bought this thing.
I did, yeah.

Speaker 1 You're going to have it in your house.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. We bought it for trade shows.
So

Speaker 2 we have a big release coming out with HubSpot. And so we got a G1 humanoid for our trade show booth for HubSpot Inbound event this year.
And this.

Speaker 1 Bro, Devin, the motherfucker's doing a karate kick. Oh, so when you buy it.
Kick your ass, man.

Speaker 2 So when you buy it, they actually show you a video of it

Speaker 2 doing

Speaker 2 everything you see here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bro, look at that. Look at that one right there.
It's kicking that dude's ass. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, so

Speaker 2 you prompt it. You prompt it.

Speaker 1 Look!

Speaker 1 They're fighting. It's already happening, man.

Speaker 1 All right. Now,

Speaker 1 where's the picture of him fucking his wife? Like, where is that at? No,

Speaker 2 no functional

Speaker 2 trimones, to my knowledge.

Speaker 2 But yeah, so, you know, I could speak to how life's going to look here in a few months.

Speaker 1 If you want to bring me back home, I'll bring it.

Speaker 2 I'll bring it and you can fuck with that.

Speaker 1 Bro,

Speaker 1 what if you get home and that thing kicks your ass?

Speaker 2 So you want to know a real like...

Speaker 1 like you're not afraid of that no i'm not it has a kill switch so yeah you got to get to it first dog

Speaker 2 it's on your phone it's on your phone but uh anyways so you want to hear like a real issue we're dealing with in the company so we got this thing right we can't find insurance to cover it for the show there's probably not it doesn't exist yet see see like it's gonna this stuff's gonna create new industries is what i'm leading to yeah right you're gonna have to have insurance on these fuckers just in case it goes rogue.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Um

Speaker 2 also, you know,

Speaker 2 these humanoids, uh, their batteries are only good for two hours.

Speaker 1 So they can only keep it. If it goes rogue, you know, I'm a tired of my max.
Yeah. I'm tired out.
Max. Rogue.
Oh, we're so fucked. It's two hours.
We're all fucked.

Speaker 2 So the hands, um, it, it can sense like it's picking this up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Versus like shaking your hand.

Speaker 1 huh? So it's not going to be like,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's not it wants to. So it can like, it can like detect like physical, like a human skin.
Bro, you guys covered this in iRobot, dude. It says, hey, you can't do this to people.

Speaker 1 And then that sunny, he starts doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So we, we are doing it to

Speaker 2 program it. We're going to program it.

Speaker 1 You program it. I'm surprised that thing is only 65 grand.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, it's out of China.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no shit.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we're going to program it to give demos of Sales AI. So that's what we're doing with it.

Speaker 2 And I am not at trade shows. I am going to see how to get it to do that.

Speaker 1 Oh, they got fat ones there. That blue one there.
So

Speaker 2 I wasn't on

Speaker 1 S DJs. That's DJs.

Speaker 1 Bro. Special Edition.
I ain't got to wait in no more fast food lines. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Yes. I'm okay, bro.
Listen, I think it's a pass for me. I mean, that's cool.
You know what I'm saying? I think I'm cool on it, man.

Speaker 1 I'm very concerned. I mean, like, Andy, I'm going to ship one to your house.
Yeah, I'm very.

Speaker 1 Listen, man, I've seen this. I've seen the movies.
I've seen too many movies. Yeah, bro.
And I've also run too many companies to understand

Speaker 1 what it's going to do potentially.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I mean, dude, businesses adapt or die, and that's it. I mean, and it, like, you know, consumers could control the adoption of these things,

Speaker 1 but they won't.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They won't do it.
There's too much convenience.

Speaker 1 They won't do it. Right, bro.
Like, dude, like, you know how many motherfuckers say they hate Nike and still wear Nike? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, you know how many people say they know that Amazon's not good for their local economy, but they still use it? They have a package everywhere. That's what I'm saying.
Like, dude, people don't.

Speaker 1 They don't do that. They'll boycott a fucking company for doing something stupid, but like they won't look at it.
They don't, I don't know. People don't look at it like that.

Speaker 1 They don't look at it as a preservation of their own utility.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, guys, jumping on this conversation, let us know down in the comments what you guys think.
I mean, the argument for this is like

Speaker 1 the argument that I've heard for this is,

Speaker 1 you know, people are going to have so much more time to live their life, right?

Speaker 1 Hard to live your life when you're broke. Well,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, like,

Speaker 1 it's true. yeah i there's it's not as simple as that is what i'm saying yeah no and like dude what are we gonna

Speaker 1 like people okay like look let's just take 75 hard for example like when you grab someone who's never heard of 75 hard and you're like hey look dude you're gonna do all this extra

Speaker 1 but it's gonna make you feel powerful. It's going to make you feel fulfilled.
It's going to give you confidence. It's going to give you belief in yourself.
That comes from the work.

Speaker 1 That comes from the creation that comes from the

Speaker 1 contribution to others and self and if we take that away from society

Speaker 1 there's going to be people that don't they like

Speaker 1 it i don't know i think dude i i don't know i honestly like it is very i'm very

Speaker 1 good with vision i think that's my biggest trait it's just hard for me to see where this is going to go you know what i mean yeah man long term yeah like i i really like i'm it makes me nervous like dude like because like how the military is already using this i guarantee it dude they're already making these humanoid robots and oh well i mean that's been they've had dogs yeah uh for years now yeah in in service yeah you know so you know my the vision that i carry with it is it it will make some negative impact, but ultimately will create a whole new realm of business business opportunity and capitalism because think about industries that still suck.

Speaker 2 Law sucks, banking sucks. All these industries that haven't created convenience are now for the taking because of artificial intelligence, which creates all these sub-markets and niches to serve.

Speaker 1 I could certainly see where

Speaker 1 it could clean up a lot of corruption because it could be black and white, but I could also see,

Speaker 1 i mean we've seen this in biases in chat gpt and in these other prompt ai services like

Speaker 1 so it's you know some of them been programmed with pre with biases you know so it's like i don't know dude like i really don't that's why i wanted you to come on and talk about it because i don't think anybody knows i mean i i think i think you think you know but like real time we don't know no no i i've told you earlier in the show i don't claim to be an ai expert yeah well you are you you are an ai expert but we still, we just don't know how it's going to evolve.

Speaker 1 We have a good idea.

Speaker 2 There's too many paths, but like the reality of making strong business decisions with AI is you don't just go all in with one. So how we approach that.

Speaker 2 Sales AI is a platform that services the customer. But I am not married to a single large language model, which that's how these

Speaker 2 get created, right?

Speaker 2 We use the best of the best for the situation.

Speaker 2 So if you have a use case for sales, there's a specific large language model that is best for that. If you're using it for customer support, there's a best use case for that, right?

Speaker 1 What's a large language model for people that don't know? It is a...

Speaker 2 composed stack of computers and

Speaker 2 data centers that process

Speaker 2 data and anything and everything on the internet faster than a human can blink.

Speaker 2 And so that's what creates, that's why when you talk to AI, it's not one plus one equals two. If you ask ChatGPT a question, it'll create all these scenarios because it knows everything.

Speaker 2 It's linked to everything that's ever been put on the internet.

Speaker 1 And that's why you. Well, that's another thing.
Like some of the information that it comes out with is not true. Like, for example,

Speaker 1 none of the information on me about my company's income, my income, my address, my age, none of that shit's correct. Right.
None of it's correct intentionally.

Speaker 1 And I don't report. We, none of my companies have reporting to the public.
Yeah. None of them, this is all, so it's all guesstimates.
But when you type in,

Speaker 1 it comes up with numbers and shit. It just makes them up.
So like

Speaker 1 there's that too. Yeah.
Right. Like, how do we know what the information is? What's the accuracy? Correct.
And, and, like,

Speaker 2 speaking to, to our company, you do not, we isolate your use case and your business for you. We don't take your data and then make

Speaker 2 XYZ customer better because we're using your data. We, we actually isolate that, right? When you're using our product, it is just you.
And you do have,

Speaker 2 I want AI to assist here, but these are the facts and you do not deviate

Speaker 2 and it will not deviate from the facts.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 And so there are controls.

Speaker 1 So it depends on who's programming it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Again, if you have good intentions to make the world a better place, you can make the world a better place. And if you have ill intentions, you can due to some major disruption.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, listen, dude.

Speaker 1 Listen, guys, I know Devin. He's a great fucking dude.
And that's why I wanted to bring him on and talk about these things because obviously I have been very anti because dude, I love people.

Speaker 1 I do too. You know what I'm saying? I love, but I mean, like, I've employed people for 26 years, bro.
My most proud

Speaker 1 that I am of anything is when these guys build a career and go out and get a house and a car and build a family like I fuck, dude, I'm cool. I'm good.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 That's where I get my satisfaction. And it breaks my heart to think that that could change.
And,

Speaker 1 you know, it's something that I'm very concerned with. So,

Speaker 1 but, dude,

Speaker 1 what I want to get to, though, is I appreciate that you come on and are open and honest about it and help us bring some clarity to the ins and outs.

Speaker 1 And I would definitely love to keep the conversation going, having you come on

Speaker 1 as this develops over time.

Speaker 1 For sure, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The reality is perception controls a lot of things. And so if you perceive that it is going to do harm, ultimately you will approach everything with a tough mindset.

Speaker 2 It's going to be really hard to break through that.

Speaker 2 So if you perceive that there can be mutual benefits in building companies and so on and so forth, you will find a massively beneficial way to leverage AI.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I just, I like to evaluate everything.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, guys, jumping on this conversation, let us know down in the comments what you guys think. We got one final segment for you guys, as always.

Speaker 1 We have thumbs up or dumb as fuck. That's where we bring a headline in.
We talk about it to get one of those two options.

Speaker 1 So with that being said, a thumbs up or dumb dumb as fuck headline reads: Colombian police catch a man smuggling packets of cocaine under Toupe.

Speaker 1 I say A for effort.

Speaker 1 I actually already saw this. You saw that? Yeah,

Speaker 1 but go on. So, uh, we go to Bogoda, California.
It's not Bogota. What is that? That's Bogota.

Speaker 1 Bogoda. I don't see a H

Speaker 1 Bogota.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Say it the way you want. We'll see what the internet does with it.
Yeah, I'm always trying to help you out. Bugatti, Colombia,

Speaker 1 Bugatta, Boguti, yeah, let's make it up, man. Who cares? This looks like a pagoda, yeah, it does look like Bogoda.
Yeah, that's how, yeah.

Speaker 1 Uh, Colombian police apprehend uh, a 40-year-old it's Bogota, just so you know, Bogota. I'm a hundred percent certain.
Okay, all right, but you could say Bogota, okay, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, say it, Bogoda, all right,

Speaker 1 buy one, get one,

Speaker 1 Buy one, get one, TNA. Right, right.

Speaker 1 Columbia police apprehended a 40-year-old man attempting to smuggle several bags of cocaine concealed beneath a meticulously attached toupee. Police said the suspect was detained.
What's that one?

Speaker 1 Cartagena?

Speaker 1 Cartagena.

Speaker 1 Where's the H? That's what the fuck it is, man.

Speaker 1 I'm just telling you. I know this dude.
I've met this guy. That's who? Cartagena.
Okay. It's a name.
Airport on Monday as he prepared to board a flight to Amsterdam. What's his first name? Huh?

Speaker 1 What was his first name?

Speaker 1 Tyrone?

Speaker 1 Kyle. Kyle.
Kyle. Kyle.
Yep.

Speaker 1 But yeah, they call him. And so she was going from

Speaker 1 Columbia to Amsterdam and allegedly there to party. Let's check this clip out.

Speaker 1 Bruh.

Speaker 1 a little off the top. This guy's just sitting there knowing he's totally fucked.

Speaker 1 It's like the head hold of shame. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Bro.

Speaker 1 At this point, he knows he fucked up. That's right.
Dude, 100%.

Speaker 1 How do you get caught with that? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Because that dude, that's actually pretty.

Speaker 1 You know, he went to the barber and it's like hey leave the sides shave the top that's probably how he got busted they x-rayed him they x-rayed him

Speaker 1 oh see that

Speaker 1 this is why we don't like technology devin that's what it is so you can't take cocaine to amsterdam for a good time anymore

Speaker 1 we need the booger sugar dude that was good that was a for effort though he like put it in perfect little circles too it's so much effort went into this attempt you know you know his buddies are like, oh, he'll be here Monday.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where's Kyle?

Speaker 1 Party starting, man. Where's Kyle? Where's Kyle Cartagena?

Speaker 1 From Bogoda.

Speaker 2 I always love to meet the barber that had to give this haircut because, you know, the barber's like, what the fuck is happening?

Speaker 1 Bro, it looks, I mean, it looks pretty good. It did look good.
How do you get caught? Did it say?

Speaker 1 The x-ray caught him? Yeah, the x-ray caught him.

Speaker 1 Man, you know, he, you know, how, like, you know, how, in, in the, dude, you know how, like, you go to the airport, they got the fucking, they got where you could just walk through the metal detector or the x-ray, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how they got it still, right? Yeah, yeah. I ain't been in the airport a minute, but the

Speaker 1 like he's probably thinking, like, I'm gonna go through the metal detector, and then probably, like, they probably like put some perk, they like pointed and made it you through here, and he's like, fuck,

Speaker 1 you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 He forgot his tsa pre-check number yeah yeah fucking got him bro i smuggled some fucking weed pills into mexico one time i did

Speaker 1 i did you fuckers didn't catch me either

Speaker 1 i thought they were gonna bro we fucking we fucking went to mexico and i had some edible i don't even know if i is that illegal is that illegal for to talk about it now yes there is it well fuck it i went i allegedly went to mexico one time

Speaker 1 i i didn't do it but if i did it this is how i would have done it okay there we go yeah so if i would have done this um i had some edibles in my bag and i forgot that like because it's legal here and i forgot that it's not legal there where it came from okay right so

Speaker 1 i get off the plane and right as i get off the plane bro there's dogs and shit and i'm like

Speaker 1 oh fuck and i totally forgot that it was like because everywhere i go i take my fucking weed pills and uh

Speaker 1 I totally forgot. And I'm like, fuck, I'm, I got like real nervous, dude.
Like, you know how, like, you know how like when you get the inside nervous,

Speaker 1 yes, but like, you can't, you, but you're, like, shaking, but you don't know if anybody notices. Yeah.
I'm like, fuck, dude. Your fucking hands are.
I'm going to fucking Mexican jail.

Speaker 1 So, so, dude, in Mexico, like, you guys who have been to Mexico, you know, like, most of the places in Mexico, they got a, the customs is different. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, you go in and you touch the fucking button and it either gives you a red light. That, and then they search your bag or a green light and they let you go.

Speaker 1 So, like, I'm fucking waiting in line and I'm like, fuck.

Speaker 1 fuck, I'm like sweating a little bit, and like, like, dude, I'm not even telling, you know, I'm not even saying nothing. I go up there, I hit the green, the light turns green,

Speaker 1 fucking weak.

Speaker 1 So, so, dude, I had like a whole, I had a whole, like a whole container, which, dude, I was there for like a week.

Speaker 1 You don't eat a whole container in a week, but I didn't want to bring them back, so I'm like, so I'd fucking ate a whole container in a week,

Speaker 1 but yeah, that's my

Speaker 1 you guys didn't catch me.

Speaker 1 Alleged story there in my story

Speaker 1 it's a fictional

Speaker 1 they're just a little lumpy like whoever put it on him just yeah yeah i say a for effort bro i mean it's definitely creative i've never heard of that before no i mean when you were saying toupee i was like what the is a toupee yeah i gotta be honest oh you did i didn't know

Speaker 1 man yeah toupee was yeah bro you ever notice that like Like, do you,

Speaker 1 Joe, you're about my age. Remember, like, when we were kids or like in school and there was all the teachers and they had they were bald around the crown of their head, but they had hair over here?

Speaker 1 How come we don't see nobody with that haircut anymore?

Speaker 1 I know, but like you never see that anymore.

Speaker 1 What happened to that?

Speaker 1 Turkey.

Speaker 1 Turkey? People start going to the turkey. People start going to turkey.
People start going to turkey. Bro, half my teachers growing up, they had bald head and hair around the outside.

Speaker 1 Everybody does like DJ does and they just shave it now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a good look.

Speaker 1 You didn't think it was a good look. I had to fucking tell you.
I was nervous for a minute there.

Speaker 1 You got a picture of your old look?

Speaker 2 Nope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, we're going to put it. Find a picture of DJ's old look and put it up here in the show post-production.
See, that's how you used to look. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who convinced you to change it?

Speaker 1 What was that guy's name? That Andy Kinsella guy. Randy Kinsella.
Kyle. What was that name? Kyle Cartagena.
From Cortagina. From Pogoda, guys.
From Pagoda.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, what are we giving this? I'm giving him an A for effort. A for effort? I'm giving him an F.
I don't know if he got fucked. Like, how bad he got.
Let me see. That's in there.

Speaker 1 10 grand. About 15 grand worth of Coke.
I got three years.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's all right. I'm sure he's fine.
I mean, that ain't worth three years of your fucking life. No.
No.

Speaker 1 Bro, violent offenders fucking kill people, get out in three years. That's real.
That's real. Well, A for effort, man.

Speaker 1 Anyway. Better luck next time.
Yeah. Don't do drugs.
I'm sure it won't be his last. Guys,

Speaker 1 Andy Devin, that's all I got. Yeah, Devin,

Speaker 1 throw people your website and your Instagram so they can know where to follow you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, website salesai.com, all one word. And then Instagram is DevinAllen Johnson, all one word as well.
So that's D-V-I-N.

Speaker 1 Yeah, spell it out for them.

Speaker 2 D-V-I-N-A-L-L-E-N Johnson. J-O-H-N-S-O-N.

Speaker 1 D-J-2.

Speaker 1 Avion Johnson, Devin Johnson. You got the 12 over there? What's that? What side did you get? Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Well, we white boys got that 12 around.

Speaker 2 That's right. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 That's right. Yeah, you don't know nothing about that.

Speaker 2 It's about the motion of the ocean, bro.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Devin, thanks for coming on, bro. Thanks for having me.
Appreciate your expertise.

Speaker 1 Looking forward to learning more and more about this with you.

Speaker 2 Next time, I'll bring the robot.

Speaker 1 Okay, cool. We'll give him a chair.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It'll be the first podcast that ever had an AI robot on it. Yeah, programming would be racist.
I want to see how this conversation goes.

Speaker 2 I'll bring my computer and I'll program it in between segments for you. Just give me

Speaker 2 what you want.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 I'm down with it. Let's do it.
Let's do it. All right, guys.
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