Jesse Palmer's Secret For Longevity In The Broadcast Industry

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Speaker 16 Today, we're diving deep with Jesse Palmer to unlock the playbook for success, discussing everything from his journey in college football and ESPN to becoming part of the most talked about franchise in pop culture, The Bachelor.

Speaker 16 I hope you enjoy this episode.

Speaker 17 You got to be careful who your circles are. Every football player's got kind of a tiny circle.

Speaker 17 You got the team, you got the offense, but you have like four or five dudes, different positions that you kind of run with. You got to be careful who those guys are.

Speaker 17 I was always trying to make sure they were positive people that were appreciative of what we were doing and loved what we were doing.

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Speaker 1 Right about now. Hey guys, what's up? We're talking bachelor today.
We're talking college football. We're talking Jesse Palmer.
What's up, brother?

Speaker 17 Good, brother. Good being on with you.
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 I'm doing great, man. Fabulous.
I've been dying to have you on the show. I've been a big fan from afar watching you play College Fool.
I remember you playing. I'm old enough to remember that.

Speaker 1 I was going to say,

Speaker 1 look, we get it.

Speaker 7 And if you're like most people, when it comes to AI, you're impressed, but you have a few concerns.

Speaker 8 But what if AI was used not as a tool to replace people, but as a way to help understand people

Speaker 1 better.

Speaker 11 AI from SurveyMonkey is designed to do just that: from crafting the perfect survey, which is harder than you might think, to analysis that digs deep, finds patterns, and surfaces trends quickly.

Speaker 14 Okay.

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Speaker 14 Look, I struggle with this myself. I pay contractors left and right,

Speaker 14 here, there, everywhere. Keeping up with all of it as a small business owner with multiple companies is next to impossible.
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Speaker 1 You definitely

Speaker 1 dating yourself. I know.

Speaker 1 There's something about you. I see you on television.
I'm talking to you now. There's a joy and a happiness.

Speaker 1 You know, some people, you feel like they carry the weight of the world or they have issues or whatever.

Speaker 1 It may even be polarizing maybe for people with you because I always just sense and have always liked this about you.

Speaker 1 There's just kind of like this, I'm in this moment and I'm enjoying it and I'm a happy person. And I've just always respected that about you.

Speaker 1 And the more I talk to you sitting here, it feels real, even like I appreciate it. And I don't know if you've ever talked about that.
I don't know. And I don't know where that comes from.

Speaker 1 Just that joyous spirit or happiness.

Speaker 17 Dude, you're the first person that's ever actually asked me that. I try to think of myself as being a guy that's in the present.
I try to stay cognizant of that.

Speaker 17 You know, it might have to do with playing football all those years and just listening to buddies and teammates always talk about woulda, coulda, shoulda. I shouldn't have come to Florida, man.

Speaker 17 I should have gone to South Carolina. I would have been a starter and I'd be in the league right now if I'd done that.
If I didn't come here, I wouldn't have torn my ACL.

Speaker 17 I should have never married that girl. If I didn't do that, I would have had this time to do these things.

Speaker 17 And on the flip side of that, people always just so worried about the next contract, what was happening way down the line. And it just seemed so stressful to me.

Speaker 17 And I wasn't even the one saying those things.

Speaker 17 Those weren't even my thoughts, but just being surrounded by all that fear all the time and that I don't want to say negative energy, but the nervous energy. That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 17 It was draining on me and I just felt happiest and the most comfortable when I just really thought about the here and now.

Speaker 17 And at ESPN, like when we're in studio and we're doing a halftime, I'm just really trying to enjoy that moment and that halftime.

Speaker 17 And I'm not worrying about the one hour long college football final that's going to go live at 2 a.m. that we're all going to be dreading because we've been awake for 15 hours.

Speaker 17 You know, it's just, people have told me that's a very Buddhist way of thinking about things. And I'm not a Buddhist.

Speaker 17 It's just how I have tried to compartmentalize things because our lives can at times seem there's a lot going on and they give you that anxiety. I don't even have kids yet.
I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 We were talking before we started. You've got four boys.

Speaker 17 Dude, I can't imagine you having to think about balancing that and your wife and your kids and now your podcast and your job and your family and your travel. I don't know how you do that either.

Speaker 17 You must be the same. You must just be in the moment.

Speaker 1 Is there a moment that sticks out, one of your best moments? I'm sure you've had a ton now, whether it was at a game where the energies are so high or maybe in studio.

Speaker 1 Is there a moment or two that are standouts at this point? Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 17 You can think back and I remember so many games and amazing environments that I was in at the time. There have been a few oh crap moments, though.

Speaker 17 The first was when I called my first game with Brett Musberger.

Speaker 17 He's such a legend. Oh, yeah.
And he's a guy that's called so many big games in college football, in the NFL. He's been to like Ali Frazier.
He's done so many different things, Olympics, everything.

Speaker 17 But we were in South Carolina doing a Texas A ⁇ M South Carolina game. And the broadcast started and the place is going nuts.
And they're playing Space Odyssey. The place is absolutely freaking out.

Speaker 17 And all of a sudden, he comes on and you hear the classic, you are looking live.

Speaker 17 And I had this old crap moment where I just froze. Crap, like I'm in the booth with Brett Musberger about to call this game.
How cool is that? And then him and I called an Iron Bowl.

Speaker 17 We did a Bama Auburn game, which was incredible. Him and I called Rose Bowl, which I still can't believe I did that.

Speaker 17 It's like stuff that when I started at ESPN, my first game I called was Rice versus UTEP, and it was the greatest thing of all time.

Speaker 17 It was the greatest thing.

Speaker 1 You're definitely a junkie.

Speaker 17 If you told me that like down the road, I'd get a chance to be in Pasadena, Rose Bowl, with Brett Musberger. I mean, it's amazing the journey and how lucky I've been.
been honestly.

Speaker 17 I don't take a second of that job for granted.

Speaker 1 What do you think's attributed to your longevity with ESPN? You're easy to work with, I'm sure. It's kind of where I was wanting to go, like this nature or nurture thing with you, man.

Speaker 1 I can't quite put my finger on it. You know, both your joy in doing things, your attitude.

Speaker 1 I'm almost kind of getting at what makes you successful while also asking that longevity is not easy in the sport that you just described.

Speaker 17 This kind of goes back to playing football. I just work really, really hard at it and I study a lot.
I watch a lot of tape. I watch so much film.

Speaker 17 Every year, I've got just books and binders of notes that I've taken watching teams. I put a lot into it.

Speaker 17 And a lot of people that do this job, everybody sort of has their own path and their own way that they operate.

Speaker 17 Some guys are great at just not studying and just kind of showing up and watching the game and just giving it to you raw and live.

Speaker 17 I do it the way I used to play quarterback where you watch film, you study the opponent, you do it for a week, and then you're able to sort of take everything that you've studied and you've got in your head and you sort of kind of spit it out on game day with respect to what you're seeing.

Speaker 17 So I hope part of my longevity has to do with the product that I'm putting out. And a lot of that really is preparation and really, really, really hard work.
I'm not the guy.

Speaker 7 And if you're like most people, when it comes to AI, you're impressed, but you have a few concerns.

Speaker 5 But what if AI was used not as a tool to replace people, but as a way to help understand people better?

Speaker 17 You can go whenever you're

Speaker 14 ready.

Speaker 14 Hey, small business owners, let's talk about how found can help you wrangle your finances once and for all. When was the last time you felt like you had your business finances totally under control?

Speaker 14 Every expense categorized, every receipt tracked, every invoice sent. Oh,

Speaker 14 and you were prepared for tax season. If the answer is never, you're not alone.
And that's what Found is for.

Speaker 14 Found is reimagining what business banking should be by putting your bookkeeping, invoicing, and tax tools directly into your business checking account.

Speaker 14 They've automated things like expense tracking, finding write-offs, and budgeting for tax time. You can even send invoices for free and pay your contractors, everything all from one app.

Speaker 14 Look, I struggle with this myself. I pay contractors left and right,

Speaker 14 here, there, everywhere. Keeping up with all of it as a small business owner with multiple companies is next to impossible.
That's what I love found. They help me with this.
They'll help you.

Speaker 14 I basically replaced three apps with just found, and I don't miss the stress at all, and neither will you. Take back control of your business today.
Open a found account for free at found.com.

Speaker 14 That's f-o-u-n-d.com. Found is a financial technology company, not a bank.
Banking services are provided by Lead Bank, member FDIC.

Speaker 17 That just kind of shows up and wings it for the fans and the viewers at home. Hopefully, that comes across.

Speaker 1 No, it does. I always feel like you're overprepared.
It does come across. It's a compliment, robotically, not because you're a robot, but the detail.
Yeah, it's there.

Speaker 1 Is it nature or nurture for you, man? Is this all like, did your parents just raise you well, or did you just built this way?

Speaker 17 I was very, very lucky. I had two incredible role models and my mom and my dad.

Speaker 17 They definitely instilled a lot of discipline in me a lot of work ethic and a lot of gratitude and appreciation growing up at a very young age and i think staying close to them throughout my entire life and having the messages reinforced over and over i think has definitely helped a lot and i think trying to be around like-minded people we talked a lot about my teammates back in the day and football is a funny thing college football especially there's like 120 dudes in there in the locker room and there's a lot of guys you got to be careful who your circles are every football player's got a kind of a tiny circle you got the team you got the offense, but you have like four or five dudes, different positions that you kind of run with.

Speaker 17 You got to be careful who those guys are. I was always trying to make sure they were positive people that were appreciative of what we were doing and loved what we were doing.

Speaker 17 I think family and I think my circle, my teammates and my buddies, I think are, and my wife, Emily's, is really the biggest reason.

Speaker 17 I remember like playing for Sean Payton with the New York Giants, and I remember like he would grind. He was like a John Brudden disciple who would grind all hours of the night.

Speaker 17 We'd be in our quarterback meeting Friday morning. Sean had the biggest eye bags.
He was crushing dip, coffee.

Speaker 17 It's like double fisting coffees and was going through it and he would put so much work into our game plan our playbook for that was huge and we would lose a game and be really disappointing and just put up six points and just all 160 yards and i think to myself man how is he going to change obviously that was not a good outcome we lost the game that was embarrassing how is he going to change his preparation the next time and to his credit he never did he just trusted the process he went back in the office at 4 a.m on monday and just started the whole thing again trusting that in believing in what he was doing was right That really sort of taught me, you've got to find whatever it is that gets you ready and just believe in it.

Speaker 17 And I have good days in studio and I have bad days in studio and I have good days in the booth and I have bad days in the booth, but I don't try to deviate too much from what got me here and what's allowed me to be successful these last 15 years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's good for people to hear that because, dude, man, you look like you got it all together. You're a good looking guy.
You've been on the bachelor, which we're going to get to.

Speaker 1 And it's like, but no, this guy is busting his ass, working hard, preparing, and it doesn't just get handed. It's hard work.

Speaker 17 it's good for people to hear that from you because you know you do i'm sure you've dealt with that in your life oh you easy or something yeah yeah for sure listen no doubt about it and i tell people this all the time my career at florida and playing in the nfl and being on the bachelor to some extent did that help me land espn absolutely it did of course it did yeah but once you get there what do you do with it because we've also had a lot of we've had nfl hall of famers at espn that got a job because of that but they didn't last very long because they didn't work very hard at the end of the day it's your resume, your game tape, your film, and what you put out on camera at ESPN and studio and in the booth.

Speaker 17 That is your resume and it speaks for itself.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about the bachelor. You were the bachelor and you're the host of the bachelor placing Chris Harrison.
I don't know how old you are. How are you 40 yet? Are you getting there? I'm in there.

Speaker 1 You're in there. Getting in there.
I'm in there somewhere. We're in there somewhere.
But Chris Harrison looks whatever, but he's done the Bachelor for 28 years or whatever.

Speaker 1 So you got to follow him up. I think you've done a great job.
I don't know. Just talk about that Bachelor experience.
What's that's been like?

Speaker 17 Yeah, it's been wild. I mean, going back to 2004, when I became the bachelor, that was kind of this, that was this amazing opportunity.
It's funny.

Speaker 17 I've always sort of been a guy that just kind of tries to take opportunities and make the most out of them and just kind of have fun with, but again, kind of being in the moment, not worrying about what the repercussions are of it.

Speaker 17 I'd be lying if I told you that in 2004, I knew what I was doing. If I had said, trust me, I'm going to do that.
I'm playing in the NFL right now. I'm going to do this job.

Speaker 17 And in a couple of years, this is totally going to open doors for me and my broadcasting group. I had no idea in 2004 that I wanted to be on television at all.

Speaker 17 That whole thing happened beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Speaker 17 I don't know if it really helped me with ESPN, but it definitely helped me with Food Network, with Good Morning America, and obviously being the host of The Bachelor Now years and years later, Daily Mail and some of these other shows that I've been associated with.

Speaker 17 It has been so cool this year coming back years and years later to be part of the franchise again. And the amazing thing has just been how much bigger the show is now.

Speaker 17 Dude, when I did it in 2004, reality TV was like a brand new thing.

Speaker 17 And I remember being in the locker room with all the guys, the New York Giants, like Michael Strahan, Tiki Barber, Amani Toomer.

Speaker 17 I'm having to explain to them what reality TV is and then also what the bachelor is. What is that? So wait, you're going on a reality show to get a date? Is that kind of what you're doing?

Speaker 17 Like it's a little bit more than that. Like you're going on, you're hopefully going to get married.
It's all on reality TV and explain all that.

Speaker 17 And then today to fast forward, the budget's obviously way bigger, obviously. The travel's crazy.
It's still the nuts and bolts are the same and the concept of it is the same.

Speaker 17 But the fans and Bachelor Nation has just grown by leaps and bounds. They've multiplied.

Speaker 17 I can't think of another show that has a fan base so into it and just so, so emotional about it and so invested in it. It's like a Clemson fan base or an SEC fan.
That's what it feels like.

Speaker 17 Yeah, right. It's just, they are so passionate about it.
And that's been really, really cool to sort of be back part of that.

Speaker 1 I think you've done a really good job. Last thing I want to say, because I didn't know, because you're a charismatic guy and you've been the bachelor.
And I was like, how's he going to be Switzerland?

Speaker 1 Because that's kind of what Chris Harrison, like his greatest attribute was he was so switched. That's why you'd respect him.
How is Jesse going to do this?

Speaker 1 Not because you're arrogant or you got to be a center of attention. It's just more you're that guy.
I think you've done an admirable job of finding that neutral zone. So I'll give you

Speaker 17 why. I appreciate it, dude.
Yeah. I've tried to not make it about me.
I don't want to be like the old Uncle Jesse who's like, back in my day, I would have done this. Or this is what you need to say.

Speaker 17 This is Clayton's.

Speaker 17 This is his game this is his deal he's got to figure it out i'm sort of there to try to keep him trying to give him the seven iron as much as i hold it for him i'm like dude just lay up yeah lay up yeah but at times he's he's swinging for fences jesse everybody knows probably where to find you but where do you direct people when they're wanting to keep up with you oh just instagram jesse palmer on instagram and jesse jesse palmer tv on twitter is pretty much it hey man hey i really enjoyed this i hope we can do it again down the road and would love to stay in touch absolutely brother thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 17 I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 We really appreciate him. You know where to find us.
Search for Jesse Palm, where you'll find all of the content from today. I'm Ryan Alfred on all the platforms.

Speaker 1 We'll see you next time on the Radcast.

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Speaker 5 And if you're like most people, when it comes to AI,

Speaker 7 you're impressed, but you have a few uh concerns. But what if AI was used not as a tool to replace people, but as a way to help understand people

Speaker 1 better?