The Norwood Builder - Part Two
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SHERLOCK AND CO.
Based on the works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Paul Waggott as Dr. John Watson
Harry Attwell as Sherlock Holmes
Marta da Silva as Mariana Ametxazurra
Dominic Sandbrook as Hector McFarlane
Ant McGinley as Gregson
Lucy-Jane Quinlan as Shireen McFarlane
Sharon D. Clarke as Lestrade
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Joel Emery
Darcey Ferguson
Vanessa Emery
Julia Green
Felicia Prince
Written by Joel Emery
Directed by Adam Jarrell
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This is Hector. Hector McFarlane.
Hi, hi there. You're a solicitor.
I am, yes. And you're on the run.
The run?
Speaker 3
Very much so. Very, very much so.
This bloody air fryer, my wife wanted one. And I said, Shireen, we don't have the space.
She said, we do, Hector. We have the space.
It's a big kitchen and all this.
Speaker 3
And I said, no, we don't have the counter space. The kitchen counter.
There's not enough room. We decide to get a whole kitchen renovation.
And I think, well, that's just bloody marvelous, isn't it?
Speaker 3
Let's tear up the whole kitchen for this air fryer. Anyway, it drags on and we eventually get a guy from Norwood.
A fellow from Norwood, Jonas Oldacre. Oh.
Speaker 3 But
Speaker 3 he's dead. Hector, he was...
Speaker 3
he was murdered. This man comes into my kitchen under false pretences, smashes the place to bits, pulls out the oven, the dishwasher, all the cupboards and counters, and holds me to ransom.
To ransom!
Speaker 3 I said, I'm not bloody having this you are taking the piss we have this big row I told him in no uncertain terms I'm taking you to court mate you are screwed
Speaker 3 and then on last Monday I came back from work and Jonas was still at the house which was odd as I had been working late well very late so I expected to not see him and he was actually
Speaker 3
He'd hung around for some legal advice. He said his partner was pregnant, recently pregnant, and he wanted to draw up a will.
And he asked if I could help out.
Speaker 3 And he said, if I helped him, he would knock down some of the labor costs even more. And I thought, well, why not? You know, I mean, I mean, I arranged the forms for him.
Speaker 3
He was right back the next morning before I was even out of work. The forms were on the side, ready to be signed by me.
I signed it.
Speaker 3 Caught him as I was heading off on my bike and I said to him, we'll make a couple of copies and I can get it filed at work. That
Speaker 3 was the last time anyone saw Jonas Oldacre. I left the meeting room, I walked down the hallway and
Speaker 3 Dame Gwen Lestrade is there. She introduces herself and she says she's overseeing an investigation that she says concerns her greatly and I say oh what's that? And she says
Speaker 3 the murder of Jonas Oldacre
Speaker 3 and there
Speaker 3 is the will.
Speaker 3 All the belongings, assets, and financial holdings of Jonas Oldacre will be left to
Speaker 3 me.
Speaker 3
To Hector MacFarlane. You killed Jonas Oldacre.
How dare you? You beat him to death with a club hammer. That's not true! A clubhammer you took from his own van on the 13th.
You're a liar!
Speaker 3 Hey, whoa, whoa, that's enough, alright?
Speaker 3 And did you see?
Speaker 3
He reacted to the blood on his own hand. His face ran pale, he gagged.
His walk into the kitchen denoted a spell of dizziness. He was unbalanced and numb.
Hector has acute hemophobia.
Speaker 3 Wait, leave him in there. No, I need more information on what exactly.
Speaker 3 What? What is it? Is he fainted?
Speaker 3 No.
Speaker 3 He's vanished.
Speaker 3
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Quite a lot of swearing in this episode, but you'll survive. Get in that episode description for more info.
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Speaker 3
He's vanished. What do you you mean he's vanished? He's vanished.
He's a solicitor, not a magician. Solicitors don't vanish into thin air.
Speaker 8 Guys, look, he probably climbed down onto the delivery truck roof.
Speaker 3
He's gone out the kitchen window. Is he mad? Look.
See? Oh, for God's sake, bloody Amazon deliveries. It's relentless.
Speaker 9 We should really go and let the police in.
Speaker 3 Oh,
Speaker 3 God.
Speaker 3
Hi yet. John? Tom.
Mariana.
Speaker 9 Tom?
Speaker 3 I'm here to make a formal arrest. Well, I know you and Sherlock don't get on, but that's a bit dramatic, isn't it?
Speaker 3
Where is he? Who's Sherlock? Just upstairs, hanging out, chilling, taking a load off. No.
Hector MacFarlane. We know he's here.
Yeah, I wouldn't be so sure of that, Tom. What do you mean? Um,
Speaker 3 you know what you should do? You should air tag your suspects, question them, then pop one of those on them. That's what you should do.
Speaker 3 Just a little bit of feedback.
Speaker 3 That would be illegal. Right.
Speaker 3
Right, yeah. Um, hey, can I get your cup of tea? No.
Okey-dokey. Tom, I think we should re-evaluate the case.
Consider this fugitive state of affairs as a window of opportunity.
Speaker 3 That there is a window of opportunity. And our suspect has just jumped out of it.
Speaker 8 Okay, so I-I-I-I-I-I think what Sherlock is trying to say is that
Speaker 8 he noted a few
Speaker 3 holes in the case. Right, Sherlock? Oh, wait, what? Sherlock Holmes found fault with a police investigation.
Speaker 3 I'm gonna need to sit down to process this. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3
I can't believe my ears. Take a seat, Gregson.
You'll be all right. Watson, get a cold cloth.
Yeah, he's being sarcastic. Oh.
Speaker 8 Tom, if you could make arrangements for Sherlock to maybe see the crime scene, it would give me.
Speaker 3 Guys, this is a serious matter.
Speaker 8 They're always serious matters, and we always help.
Speaker 3 This isn't help! A good track record does not excuse letting a suspect jump out your back window.
Speaker 3
A suspect, by the way, that we believe not only beat a man to death with a bloody hammer, but they cut him to pieces. You don't have a body.
No, we don't.
Speaker 3
But we have Old Acre's blood on a club hammer. We have Old Acre's blood on a disposed angle grinder blade.
And we have Hector MacFarlane's fingerprints on both.
Speaker 3 You know Hector MacFarlane, the bloke who miraculously stands to inherit all of Old Acre's cash and belongings. Funny that.
Speaker 3 Does it not occur to you, Tom, that this murder tied to this suspect a little too easily? Yes, that's why we're in the process of arresting him and getting him charged for crying out loud.
Speaker 3 I too had the same thought of Hector MacFarlane, but now my mind is full of questions. Yeah, well, you're gonna have a lot more in your mind when Gwen is finished with you.
Speaker 3
Gwen's energy would be best spent finishing this investigation. Somebody had finished the investigation.
My team! I have deciphered more than you. Shut up.
Speaker 3 Your radio, Tom. It's all right, it's not for me.
Speaker 8 It's for units in the Baker Street area.
Speaker 3
Oh, shit. This is Gregson.
Over.
Speaker 10 Gregson, we've got an armed suspect at Madam 2 Swords. What? Repeat an armed suspect at Madame 2 Swords.
Speaker 3 Dispatch, I'm in the area, about a minute away. Could you repeat?
Speaker 10
Over. Suspect with a firearm at Madame Two Swords on Marley Bone Road.
Repeat, we have a suspect with a firearm at Madame Two Swords on Marley Bone Road. Units and special units on standby.
Over.
Speaker 3
I think we may have located Mr. McFarlane.
Don't you? Sherlock, they said he's armed. He's not an armed gunman.
He's a snobby solicitor from Blackheath. Let me go deal with the gunman.
Speaker 3 We'll talk about McFarlane later. They're the same
Speaker 3
Enough, Sherlock. Just this is serious, mate.
Right, Tom, we will get our heads together, have a think about how we can tackle this. Yeah, you do that.
Speaker 8 You didn't move it.
Speaker 3 Someone is paying attention, at least. What?
Speaker 8 The gun on the counter in the kitchen. I told you to move it,
Speaker 8 and you didn't, did you?
Speaker 3 I did not.
Speaker 3 Whoopsie. He.
Speaker 3 Oh,
Speaker 3 you are fucking kidding me.
Speaker 3 We need to be sure that that's being evacuated immediately and I want a headcount of this. Well, I spoke to a young woman and the end and she said that the the gentleman was armed.
Speaker 3 From what the eyewitnesses are saying, we believe that maybe a firearm may be involved. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 I think we'll do it on camera too and I'll just speed a cell
Speaker 3 in an armed unit here on the scene if we're not. Thank you, Suzanne.
Speaker 9 Now, we are just getting some information to us that Madame Toussaud's in London may be the site of a potential hostage situation.
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Speaker 7 I saw him come in and I just immediately I knew that something was wrong.
Speaker 3 And then it must have been like five seconds, literally like five seconds, and then everybody was running and screaming and he was shouting.
Speaker 3 These horsemen
Speaker 3 have been taken by the man whose identity has just been revealed as Hector MacFarlane.
Speaker 3 A gentleman from Blackheath by the name of Hector McFarland. Five American citizens are fighting for their lives in London, England.
Speaker 11 Five Americans, a Chinese national and two British citizens make up the hostages taken by Blackheath-based solicitor Hector MacFarlane.
Speaker 3 Everybody move back to some armed seats!
Speaker 3 We have visual confirmation of the target. No, no, no, I'm sorry, like you've got a madman with a gun who is threatening to kill innocent people, Callum.
Speaker 3 Yeah, but what I think we're all missing is, right?
Speaker 3
He's innocent until proven guilty. He's holding people up at gunpoints.
Because he is fighting against the press for saying that he did it. They're saying what we understand.
Speaker 3 Both Hector McFarland and the eight hostages do not have contacts. Here in Blackheath,
Speaker 3 Do you think that builders like Jonas Oldacre being murdered will affect the government's house building targets?
Speaker 7 So the question is, I mean, this is going to be for Justin Brown, Member of Parliament for Buckingham at Bletchley. Will these builder murders affect government house building targets?
Speaker 7 That's what the gentleman asked.
Speaker 3 Um, well, it it
Speaker 3 well,
Speaker 3 no.
Speaker 3 All units here, by suspect is armed and dangerous. All units are not.
Speaker 7 And you're just seeing these remarkable pictures we're getting now of police units actually on the rooftops surrounding Mamanto Swords.
Speaker 7 And I'm just wondering, Michael, if they have line of sight on hective in there.
Speaker 3
You've got that guy in England, right? He's like taking it to the cops. Wink, you don't think he killed that guy? I don't, man.
You don't? I don't think he killed that guy.
Speaker 7 I think he's like this typical
Speaker 7 fuck-up elite snob who I hope is gonna get what's coming to him.
Speaker 3 He's gonna get what he deserves.
Speaker 3
The whole thing is blossoming. This man and two swords is simple.
You shoot this, you ask questions later.
Speaker 14 That's not what we do in this country.
Speaker 3 That is not shooting shots.
Speaker 3 We are now losing
Speaker 3
No, no, no, he's on side because the right back is playing him on. Not the football.
Is this about the mouse? Again, they said they'd call for a humane release. No, not the mouse.
The siege. Oh.
Speaker 3
Yeah, but I mean, of course it's not fair. It is an armed siege, Sherlock.
Yes, but I'm not there. That's what's not fair.
They're not going to let you attend, mate.
Speaker 3 It's a potential hostage situation, not a birthday party.
Speaker 3 Welcome to Blackheath, everyone, in southeast London. And
Speaker 3 I have to say, it's about as tranquil as London gets. We're currently looking out on the expanse of the...
Speaker 3 Well, of Blackheath.
Speaker 3 It's a big flat heathland heathland type park really lots of people playing football bit of cricket over there tennis courts behind me people walking their dogs coming back from work and
Speaker 3 yeah we are hopefully going to get a piece of this norwood builder case action but
Speaker 3 not quite sure what the master detective has in mind
Speaker 3 now that's where you tell me
Speaker 3 oh fine
Speaker 3
Well, definitely not getting an air fryer now. I mean, look what happens.
One minute all is fine.
Speaker 3 You're living in Blackheath not care in the world Then you get an air fryer and before you know it you've chopped up a builder You're on the run from the authorities and now you hold up in a landmark London tourist attraction in a standoff with armed police
Speaker 3 Makes you think makes you think of what exactly I know like
Speaker 3 The smallest things in life can set off these massive events that are just
Speaker 3 you know, I mean this is huge isn't it? People will say oh oh, do you remember the siege of Madame Two Swords in 2025? Oh, yeah, I remember that. I was,
Speaker 3 you know, I was at uni, and your mother was working down the street from it, weren't you, love? Sorry, who on earth are these characters? No, I'm just providing
Speaker 3 a sense of the gravity of events, Sherlock. Okay, that's
Speaker 3 people remember this.
Speaker 3 What sort of events do you remember then? Me.
Speaker 3 Diana Death,
Speaker 3 9-11,
Speaker 3 then
Speaker 3 the London bombings, 7-7, I think that was.
Speaker 3
And that bloke that blew his bollocks off with the suicide nail bomb in Anando's toilet in 2006. It was a giraffe.
What? It was a giraffe. No, it was a bloke, mate.
It was a suicide bomber.
Speaker 3
No, the establishment. It wasn't the toilet of Anando's, it was a giraffe.
Ah, giraffe cafe, yeah. Sorry.
Speaker 3
We should be there. The police will handle it.
Just focus on the task at hand. They won't.
They'll kill an innocent man.
Speaker 3 Yeah, innocent men don't don't arm themselves and march into waxwork museums taking hostages. This one does.
Speaker 3 Another thing, I don't appreciate being dragged from Baker Street all the way to Blackheath, literally the opposite side of London, to then hear you say, oh, we should be there.
Speaker 3 We must review the crime scene. I must be sure.
Speaker 3
I must be able to provide the police with an alternative. Yeah, they're gonna wanna hear that right now.
It's their job to hear it.
Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean sure, it is also their job to shoot Hector McFarlane in the head. So
Speaker 3
there she is. Shireen.
Shireen McFarlane, right there. Where? Where I expected her to be on her way back from work.
Come. Oh,
Speaker 3
that is a lot of paparazzi around her, mate. Are you surprised? No, not one bit.
Pick up the pace. Oh, hi again, everyone.
As I said, in Blackheath, Blackheath is, of course, whoa shit, mean fellow.
Speaker 3 Blackheath is the home of Hector MacFarlane, which is where the missing, presumed dead Jonas Oldacre was
Speaker 3 contracted for his building
Speaker 3
work. We're just anti-hell.
We're just about to speak to Shireen, see if we can. Okay, wow, we're going straight into the paparazzi.
Hey!
Speaker 3 Move it! Out of the way! Get off me!
Speaker 3 Oh, God, you lot of the world! Shireen! Ow! Shireen McFarlane! Shireen! Shireen! Get away from me!
Speaker 3 Parasite! Shireen! I've just met your husband! Get the fuck off this!
Speaker 3 Hey! Hey, that got me! I'm a detective. He came to see me!
Speaker 3 I think he may be innocent.
Speaker 3 Shireen! I think Hector may be innocent.
Speaker 3 What?
Speaker 3 I said.
Speaker 14 This is the lounge.
Speaker 3 Lovely. I love the
Speaker 3 frame quotes over the walls. Wine o'clock.
Speaker 3 And yeah, you have me at Merlot. Funny, um, funny, funny stuff.
Speaker 14 Some people think they're tacky, but uh.
Speaker 3 No, not at all, not at all. No, no, let let the night be gin.
Speaker 3 Yeah, no, this is
Speaker 3 tasteful, classy decor, Shireen.
Speaker 14 I'm glad you like them.
Speaker 3 Yeah, very, um,
Speaker 3 yeah.
Speaker 14 Then, um, a dining room here. Uh, I decorated this room.
Speaker 3 Yeah, wow, that's.
Speaker 3 The leopard print really kind of throws you at first, but once, yeah, once your eyes settle, it's quite something.
Speaker 3 Yeah, crushed, crushed velvet dining chairs, very swanky.
Speaker 14 Table all set for dinner?
Speaker 3 It's just gonna be me tonight, though. Hey, Shireen, it's okay.
Speaker 3 It's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 Charlotte, will you get one of those serviettes for Shireen? The pink ones. Yeah,
Speaker 3 of course.
Speaker 3
Here we go. Oh, look, little little inspirational quotes on each.
What does it say? The only disability is a bad attitude. That seems insensitive.
Speaker 3 Thank you.
Speaker 3 Oh,
Speaker 3 I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 Oh, God, Hector, what have you done?
Speaker 3
He's taken some hostages in a London tourist attraction. I don't think she was being literal, mate.
Ah. Shireen, could could we um
Speaker 3 could we see the kitchen, maybe?
Speaker 14 Uh, yeah, yeah, it's a a bit of a mess.
Speaker 14 Still under construction, obviously, and we haven't been allowed to touch it for a good week.
Speaker 3 Here.
Speaker 3 Yeah, a bit of a building site, isn't it? But um, it looks lots of potential.
Speaker 3 Um, Cornelius Kitchens?
Speaker 14 The name of his company.
Speaker 14 Of Jonas's company.
Speaker 3 Right. Do you recall what the police took away for evidence?
Speaker 14 Uh, mostly Jonas's tools. Uh uh They took his van, too, as it was parked on the drive.
Speaker 3 And the hammer was in the van?
Speaker 14 No, it was on the counter there, in the kitchen. Jonas had left it with the documents he had for Hector to process at work.
Speaker 3 The will? Jonas Oldacre's will? Yeah?
Speaker 14 Yeah.
Speaker 14 Then over here is where he was doing the extension.
Speaker 3 No.
Speaker 8 Sorry?
Speaker 3 We're not done.
Speaker 3 How did you know the documents were in the kitchen? Hector said he took them first thing in the morning. To his work.
Speaker 14 Yeah, but I was up first to let Jonas in. Hector was showering.
Speaker 3
Mrs. McFarlane.
Shireen. Shireen, it's very important you relay this information to me with as much accuracy as possible.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 On the morning of Jonas Oldacre's disappearance, you got up at what time?
Speaker 14 6am.
Speaker 14 Same every morning. I do yoga in the lounge.
Speaker 3 What time does Jonas usually arrive?
Speaker 14 Usually 7. That morning it was 6.30.
Speaker 3 Why?
Speaker 14 He didn't say, but the yoga session, the video is 45 minutes long, so I just quickly let him in and he got on with it.
Speaker 3 You finished the session, and you at some point saw the documents on this countertop? I did.
Speaker 14 I came through to make a coffee, and the documents were right there.
Speaker 3 Here?
Speaker 14 Yeah.
Speaker 3 How were they presented?
Speaker 14 Well, they were folded open on the last page, because, well, that's how I knew it was for Hector.
Speaker 3 So the signature box for the solicitor, in this case, Hector, was presented...
Speaker 14 Oh, with a pen beside it, yeah, and he put the hammer on it as a paperweight. Probably because the extension's still drafted.
Speaker 3 Whoa, stop. What? The hammer.
Speaker 14 It was.
Speaker 14 Well, it didn't have blood on it or anything.
Speaker 3 No, no, Shireen. The hammer was on the documents.
Speaker 14 As a paperweight, yeah.
Speaker 3 Is that...
Speaker 3 Have I said something wrong? No. Hector comes down.
Speaker 3
He sees the signature box. He knows the form, as he's drafted it the night before, so he's not gonna read through.
He moves the hammer. His prints go on it.
Speaker 3 And he signs.
Speaker 3 Shireen, take me through the rest of your husband's movements that morning. Okay,
Speaker 14 so
Speaker 14 he had a late night the night before with work, with Jonas asking him about this will.
Speaker 14 He wanted to help him out. Bit of a side gig, I suppose, to reduce the cost of all this.
Speaker 14 He was a little behind that morning, so he put his coffee in his takeaway cup and then he put the documents in his briefcase
Speaker 14 And he went to his bike. He would have then cycled to the station.
Speaker 3 Where is his bike stored?
Speaker 14 It's round the side.
Speaker 3 Show me.
Speaker 14 He'd undo the lock for the storage, and his bike is in here.
Speaker 3 Did you see him leave?
Speaker 14 No.
Speaker 3 You said goodbye inside?
Speaker 14 Yeah.
Speaker 3
Is Sherlock? Yes, Watson. Look at this, on the floor.
Ah, yes.
Speaker 3 What do we have here? A very small bit of plastic. Yes, moulded and adjoining a gauze shield.
Speaker 3 Most likely fitting a fan to expel air.
Speaker 6 Is that from his bike?
Speaker 3 Was it tampered with? No, not at all. Shireen, are you aware of what an angle grinder is?
Speaker 14 Oh, it's a saw.
Speaker 14 That's what they're saying he used on the body.
Speaker 3
That's right. It's a handheld circular saw.
Two grips, one at the rear, one at the front.
Speaker 3 The police report states that they found a disposed blood-stained blade for it, and a new blade had been fitted poorly, and the angle grinder itself had been damaged in the process.
Speaker 14 And that's why they think he did that.
Speaker 3 Because it looked appeared amateur-ish.
Speaker 3 Someone disposed of the evidence and refitted a new blade to cover their tracks, but did it poorly. But this here,
Speaker 3
the small plastic moulding would fit the damage depicted in the report. So the angle grinder, like the hammer, was left in a location that would require Hector to touch it.
To transfer his prince.
Speaker 3 I mean, it's no wonder he's snapped. This press coverage is absolutely mental.
Speaker 3 Hey, look, there's us.
Speaker 3 God's sake, I look so short because I'm next to you. I'm not that short in real life.
Speaker 3 This is why I should do more case with Mary Armour.
Speaker 3 God, my hair's looking a bit long there, too. Could do with a cut.
Speaker 3 Gotta go to the usual place, though, can I? All closed off because of bloody
Speaker 3 lone gunman here.
Speaker 3 Sorry, who are you texting?
Speaker 3 An associate.
Speaker 3 So, Mariana.
Speaker 3 Different kind of associate. Right, could you elaborate?
Speaker 3
Yes, actually. Really? Hey, where are you going? We just got back.
I'm going to 29 Marlebone Road,
Speaker 3
and so are you. That's right.
Look the siege. It's opposite Madden Two Swords.
Why are we going there? Shut up. Oh, for God's sake.
Speaker 3 Sherlock, please. Just don't do anything stupid, alright?
Speaker 4 Why not?
Speaker 3
Well, A, Madam Two Swords is right there. Hector could be pointing that thing out the window for all we know.
Doubtful.
Speaker 3 And B, there's police everywhere.
Speaker 3 Yes.
Speaker 3 And so there should be.
Speaker 3 This way.
Speaker 3
Mr. Holmes.
Hello there. Some identification, please.
You two, Mr. Watson.
Ah, Mr., is it? Sorry? No, nothing. Uh, there you go.
Driver's license has a Swindon address, but I'm gonna get it changed.
Speaker 3 Also, there's a blonde streak in my hair because of a stag this way.
Speaker 3 Certainly.
Speaker 3 Ooh.
Speaker 3 This is
Speaker 3 something.
Speaker 3 Yes, quite.
Speaker 3
I've never seen so many guns. Well, I'd hope you have.
Otherwise, the British Army is in terrible shape. No, I know that.
Speaker 3
I've seen guns in an army context. That's a different context.
You know, that's a
Speaker 3 natural environment for guns. This is London.
Speaker 3 Yeah,
Speaker 3
it's like when a bird flies into your house. You're like, Jesus Christ, you know, look at that thing.
What the fuck am I going to do? What am I going to do?
Speaker 3 But ultimately, it's just a bird, but in a different context, you know, it's the context. Please stop.
Speaker 3 Right through here.
Speaker 3 Ma'am, Holmes and Watson are here. Hmm?
Speaker 3 There you go, chance.
Speaker 3
Hello. You're smirking.
Stop smirking. Oh, this.
Speaker 3
This isn't a smirk. Yes, it is.
No, it's not. What is it, then? I'm smiling.
It's because I'm pleased to see you. We both know that's not the reason you're smiling, Sherlock.
Fine.
Speaker 3
I may be a smidge excited. Is that a crime, Gwen? I realise you may be a little rusty for that question.
Feel free to consult your policing practices handbook. What did I say? You said best behaviour.
Speaker 3
Exactly. Of course.
How rude of me. John Watson, this is Gwen.
Gwen, this is John. Oh, uh, nice to meet you, Gwen.
Nice to meet you, Mr. Watson.
It's. Sorry, I never do this, you know, but
Speaker 3 it's actually Doctor.
Speaker 3
Doctor Watson. Oh, my goodness.
I do apologise. I'm so sorry.
No, no, no, not at all. I know how you feel, because it's not actually Gwen.
Oh, is it not? No.
Speaker 3 It's Dame Gwendolyn Lestrade, Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service.
Speaker 3 Right.
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