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Lightest. Do you guys sleep with the room blacked out or do the shades open? That's my opening topic.
Hang on, Will. Sean's got some material.
Go ahead, Sean. What should we say? What is it? I don't have material.
Should we say, no, I don't. Do you? No, I can't sleep with the, I have to sleep with them open because I can't.
Still rolling. Go back to one.
I have to sleep with them open because I can't wake up when it's pitch black. It makes me really depressed.
Okay, I mean- I had a payday candy bar yesterday. This is, hang on a second.
This is his second bit. He didn't want to lead with this one because it's not as strong as the first one.
One subject at a time. Sean, and now are you checking these off every time you hit one of these? Because I know you wrote these down.
No, they're in the back of my head. But truly about the blackout thing, that is something that my wife really prefers.
She likes to have total blackout in the room when she goes to sleep. She says she can't sleep with light in the room.
And I'm still trying to figure out how she's been able to sleep with her eyes open all these years. Wow.
Right? I mean, if your eyes are closed, no, if your eyes are closed, you don't need blackout curtains. That's what I'm saying.
Your eyes are closed and your eyeballs roll up behind in the back of your head when you're sleeping too. Right.
But the thing is I can't, but more than that, I don't want to wake up when it's like, I don't know what time it is then. Yeah, exactly.
It's real cokey to wake up in a blackout room.

Yeah, I agree. I mean, we used to go to sleep as human beings when it got dark out, and we'd go to

sleep appropriately at that time because there was no light. And then we'd wake up when it got

light out. Yeah, and you kind of peek your eyes open.
Is there light outside yet? No. Yeah.
It's

kind of nice. It is nice to look out the window and see that the day's out there.
That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Yeah, it gets you going. I'm an early, I'm a super early riser, as you guys know.
And I like to go to bed early, too. So how has that been when you've now moved over there to New York to do your film? Which, by the way, I was thinking the other day, I'm a real shit heel for not having reached out to you and asked you how things are going thus far because you're right in the middle of prep you're a couple of weeks out from shooting yeah and let me just ask you publicly how is it going how are you feeling are you excited are you nervous are you pumped yeah I'm really excited it's been good prep has been excellent really, really good.
And yeah, we're right in the thick of it right now. And can you tell us a couple of your credits before this starts? Of course.
And are you acting in this? Are you producing it? Are you directing it? Let me go back through. So some of my credits as self.
These are the talk shows? Talk shows. Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight appearances.
Formerly known as Jimmy Kimmel Live. And so those are their own.
And then Jimmy Kibble, also separate. So this is your big debut.
Any scripted stuff? You know what? You know, I was looking at talk show appearances recently, and I was like I think I've done like all the different iterations of Conan's show I think a total of like close to 30 times same with Kimmel I think I've done Letterman like six times I think like it's a lot of appearances on those shows it's a lot of stories I'm loving being loving being in New York, though, so much. It's been really, that part of it has been amazing, too.
Will, will have something prepared. Go ahead, Will.
What about New York that you're enjoying? And I'm just saying, if you find yourself in Midtown and you're looking for some men's fashion, sorry. You're thinking maybe New York might be a fit for you once again in your life to live a little bit more full-time there? Yeah, as you guys both know, I lived here full-time for over 20 years and then moved out to LA and the kids were, the bigger kids were little and it just worked out that that was really convenient and they like school out there and they still do.
So my older kids are in high school in LA. But you're thinking maybe when they're done, you can maybe, yeah? I'm going to do a little.
Because God knows where they're going to go. I'm going to split some time.
Exactly. God knows where they're going to go.
And so I'm going to start to split my time a little bit between the East Coast and LA and the East Coast. Start to feather it in.
And then in a few years. Feather or like you say, braid it.
Braid it. Braid it.
Yeah, yeah. And then eventually go full, full-time East Coast and back here in New York.
I really like it. And, you know...
That's great. My guest today appears in pretty much everything good you've seen on the smaller big screen in the last 20 years.
No stranger to the podcast space. Please try to sound sincere.
Start from the top again. I love this person.
Okay. My guest today appears in pretty much everything good you've seen.
Period. No stranger to the podcast space.
Where did Will go? He's tying his shoes or something? Oh. He's co-hosted one about the band U2 as well as a separate one about R.E.M.

His last name is also a first name,

and he once claimed he can't live without protein bars

or a water flosser, Jason.

Today, he stars in one of the most anticipated

second seasons of a show ever,

something I love.

I love him in everything,

but this one I really love.

That show is called Severance, and his name...

Adam Scott?

Brilliant.

Adam Scott. Hey, Adam! Oh, my goodness.
Hi, guys. This is very long overdue.
I know, by the way. This is ridiculously long overdue.
Can I just ask, can I just ask, is it too late to jump in on that blackout curtains? No, no, no, please. We know you're a classic vampire.
Let's hear it. No, I have no stance.
I don't give a shit. Really? Okay.
What about Naomi? Good opener, good opener. What is Naomi like? Her sort of, her bedroom lighting levels.
By the way, Adam, you don't have to tell Jason what your wife prefers sleep-wise. Thank you, Will.
Okay, just feel free to say fuck off. Okay, go ahead.
Jesus Christ, Jason. Well, okay, just tell me what she sleeps in.
No, blackout curtains in like a hotel, I can never wake up with the blackout curtains, but at home, you know, for some reason, they don't really have the effect. And that was about as interesting as it got.
So wait, so you are using blackout curtains in your home? No, we do have blackout curtains now that you mention it. Yes.
But, you know, I'm always up early. You know, you have kids, you're up early.
Blackout curtains don't even matter. Amanda got up early this morning because she went to a workout class with our eldest.
Kind of a cute mother-daughter thing. But anyway, so she's up early before I'm getting up.

And I was reminded once again, she's a real heavy walker.

She doesn't roll the heel to the toe.

It's just, it's almost like she's got no flexibility in her Achilles tendon.

So she's just jamming the peg of the heel down. Achilles.
And she pops the light switches. You know how you can turn on a light switch so it makes no sound? Oh, yeah.
She's never heard. It's just whack, whack.
She'll brush her teeth and shake out all the supplements from the bottles and stuff from the bathroom. It's like, what is going on? It sounds like she wants you to wake up.
Exactly. How about a nice little reach over and just a gentle rocking would be nice.
JB, it also sounds like you are intolerable as a person. You are tough to live with.
Because all this time I thought Amanda was the problem. I agreed with you over the years.
I agreed that she talks a lot. She talks out of turn.

She grabs everybody and whispers in their ear.

She's always confiding in people.

Yes, talk all day.

You know what she does?

She grabs you.

She pulls you to the side.

Totally.

Yeah, yeah.

I love that.

Oh, Adam's fallen down the hole himself.

But now I realize you're the problem.

It's not her.

She's an angel.

Now you realize?

As you would say, a sweet angel. Yeah, sweet baby angel.
Yeah, no, I've got plenty of quirks. Yeah.
Fuck. Adam, welcome.
Welcome, Adam. Thank you.
Thanks, you guys. So, sorry I was late.
No, by the way, the, you know. By the way, all of the, you guys were, there was a whole flurry of activity around you being, what, seven minutes late.
It's actually impressive. No, it's just unusual.
If you're 60 seconds late to this thing, one of us will get after you. Oh, yeah.
Will and I have wrecked each other's days at least a half a dozen times. Where we're like legit mad at each other and have to have a follow-up phone call four hours later and make up.
Because of like a four minute thing. Yeah, there's like 10 minutes of vibe throughout the starting interview.
And they're like, oh, you're mad at me because I'm late? You didn't want to check your connection before the start of the recording? Wow. Yeah, it gets real.
You know how brothers kiss. Sure.
You know how that happens. Anyway, sorry.
Wait, Adam, thank you for being here. Thanks for having me, guys.
Yeah, and I'm glad you're my guest because I, as you know, I'm a big fan. You know what? I'm glad you're his guest, too, to a degree.
But I saw the ads for, and I loved Severance. I haven't watched, I love Severance Season 1.
So good. First of all, out of the gate, you're fucking great, Adam.
Severance one. So good.
Love it, love it, love it. And I saw an ad for season two.
I don't know if it was on, maybe it was online or something. And I saw an ad and I thought, how have we not had Adam on the show yet? Look, here we are.
Here we are. It's Sean's fault.
Sean hasn't been able to book him. That was three days ago I went through that thought process.
Only three days ago you went wild. Sean finally booked me.
I know. That's what happened.
And then, Adam, we don't need to mention the product, but did I hear your voice on a campaign a couple of days ago on TV? Yeah, maybe. Are you doing any voiceover work for a— Financial— You can mention—you can mention—what is it? Tax Act.
Yeah. Tax Act.
You have a very pleasant voice. By the way, that's my first time delving into that kind of, and it is the best.
Yeah, it's like morons could do it. Isn't that right, Will? Will.
Hey, Will. Uh-oh, Will.
My screen froze, sorry. Yeah, that's what happens when you're a robot.
You glitch out every once in a while. Go ahead, give us a professional grade, you fucking idiot.
I'm not going to give it away for free. Listen, my friends over at GMC, they make a product that's made here, that's American-made, and if you like a truck...
Right, but you've been doing it at home for... You know exactly what you're doing here, this is what you've been doing for a long time.
Oh, yeah. Yes, that is true.
It is the best. Ask him what his favorite microphone is and the best cans to wear.
I mean, look, do you want to see something? Yeah, do you have a different mic, guys, depending on? Oh, I have a different mic. Oh, shit, look at that.
This is in a beautiful, quilted box. Ew, nobody cares about your microphone in a box.
A mahogany. It's wrapped up like a precious dildo.
Are you kidding? It does look like that. This is an old school microphone.
It is the fucking Cadillac of microphones. This is a, or it's a, you know, a Yukon XL Denali of microphones.
There you go. It's the Neumann U87.
This microphone is made in Germany. I do keep it in this box at all times.
Germany, we all know Germany. That's where all the good mics come from.
It is true. Everybody knows that.
It is true. Nobody knows that.
So, Adam. Yeah, Adam, go ahead, Sean.

If you wanted to ask me, you go ahead. I just wanted to say

one thing, and then I wanted to ask you

something, which was, and I'm sure you know this,

but I was doing my play Goodnight Oscar in Chicago

with Tramiel Tillman.

Yeah, Tramiel.

Yes, and Tramiel said...

Bellissimo.

Bravo.

Bravo. Bellissimo Bravo Bravo Bravo This is a performance Ancora Oh Mr.
Oscar got to life All over the basket Ancora I'm gonna do it in Italy. Sorry, Adam.
This is a great rehearsal. We're going to record in a couple of minutes.
Anyway, so Tramiel comes to rehearsal, and he's like, hey, y'all got to check out my show, Severance on Apple. And I was like, oh, God, that's homework.
I got to watch another friend's show. And then so I go home and watch.
I couldn't take my eyes off. I was like, this is the best.
And then every night at the show, I was like, oh my God, I'm in a show with a guy from Severance. It was incredible.
So good. He's Milchak for anybody who doesn't know, which now his name is Milchak.
Yeah. Which is great.
But I want to just talk to you about Severance and get that out of the way because I love it. Because when Ben Stiller was on the show, he, I might get this wrong, but he said when he read the script, it was almost, he thought it was supposed to be a comedy or something.
Is that right? Because there's comedy elements in it, but it's a tone like you've never seen before, which is so hard to achieve. Did you get that from reading it? Well, I think that he was sort of thinking a way into it would be like the workplace comedy that we've all sort of grown accustomed to as kind of its own genre.
And he thought that could be a way in for audiences, like see these people working with their like banter and all of that, except none of them know who they are or what they're doing. Right.
Yeah. And sort of that's sort of the way, and I think that's, and part of the reason he thought of me is because I've, you know, been in workplace comics.
Well, I was going to say, so as we all know, you were on Parks and Rec for many years, which was... Bravo!

Thanks.

Thanks, Jason.

I'm not applauding.

That's fine.

I started it down here, just under camera.

I see.

Okay, thank you.

Bellissimo.

Bravo.

Bravo!

He's saving the parks and the recreation.

So, but it is funny, you know... I love that he's in the back of the theater.
Oh, yeah, yeah. But it also speaks to the size of the, just the breadth of this theater that you're in.
Yeah. But yeah, you did a very, a really great, very popular workplace comedy.
And then you have to kind of shift gears. I mean, that one is a bunch of people who they know who they are, but they don't really know what they're doing a lot of the time in Parks and Rec.
And then you go to this other one, which, and what I loved about Severance early on was, first of all, is that you're, it's one of those shows where you're, not only do they not

know what's going on, the characters, but you as an audience member are trying to piece it together. You're like, what's happening? For me, that scratches an itch.
I love that because it keeps you hooked. You're like, what's happening? Yeah.
I agree. That's part of what I loved about it too.
And to sort of the gradual, it was a constant negotiation of how much of the iceberg do we show? First of all, season one, how far are we going to go? And originally, by the time season one ends, it was going to be way further down the line story-wise than what it ended up being. Oh, wow.
So it's constantly that thing, like how much do we want to show? How much do we want the audience to sort of follow the breadcrumbs and all that kind of stuff? Yeah, yeah. And you being the protagonist, sort of the central focus, you kind of hold our hand as the audience

through this odd circumstance.

And you've been the protagonist, you've been the antagonist.

Do you like that?

Do you like being the audience's proxy through something

that is kind of difficult to manage?

I do.

And it's a completely different thing, as I'm sure you'd attest, Jason, because actually early on, I remember when I started doing Party Down, which was before parks, and thank you very much. Thank you very much.
Let's hear him in the back. They really like hard to part.
You make me laugh so hard.

Grazie.

They like to party down so much.

We've never done this bit before, and this will be the last time.

But we're just going to go ahead and milk it until it's a stone.

Okay?

They like to party down so much.

We party too.

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You're doing Party Down, and you're a protagonist or an antagonist? Right. So we're doing a scene early in that show, and we were just starting.
And up to that point, I had roles where, you know, where you're trying to, like, stuff everything into a couple of scenes. Yeah.
And so I was doing this scene where Lizzie Kaplan and I were meeting for the first time and talking. And I remember the director, Fred Savage, took me aside after a couple takes and was just like, hey, man, you know,

you've got all season.

You can chill.

Pump it.

Just easy, bro.

Yeah.

Like, we've got all this time,

and you can, you know,

you're going to be kind of,

the audience is going to go through the story with you,

so you can just pull back and just relax.

Like, he was essentially just saying, fucking relax. We were like, man, don't worry about it.
Did that crush your spirit? Was that shaming? Well, no, it was actually, it was like the best advice I'd gotten, but also kind of looking back. Yeah, maybe in the moment, probably question everything, but looking back, it's like the best piece of advice because he's 100% right, and I'm sure he learned that lesson when he was like nine years old or something, but it's true.
You can just take your foot off the gas a little bit. Otherwise, it's going to be exhausting to watch.
You're going to be watching someone. Well, you have nowhere to go, all that kind of stuff, right? You know, it occurs to me as you say that, Adam.
I'm like, what's the best... Can you guys...
This goes to everybody. Remember a piece of direction, a simple note or something that's always stuck with you that was a good one or a really bad one? I got a piece of bad direction once from...
Oh, gosh. Don't say the name the name.
Okay, I won't say the name. But he said, what the fuck is wrong with you? Whoa.
No, really? I think you said that before. Yeah.
And didn't he scream it like either across the set or from Video Village? No, yeah, from Video Village in front of 200 people. Saying that and then expecting you to like experiment and find.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that was the direction. Also, but Jimmy Burroughs once said, Jimmy Burroughs, the great Jimmy Burroughs, James Burroughs.
Yeah, yeah. He said, I said, Jimmy, is it funnier if I like say the line and slam the fridge or should I slam the fridge and then say the line? And his direction was, honey, I don't care.
That's pretty good.

Jimmy Burroughs wants,

Jimmy Burroughs wants not to me,

but to somebody else

I was doing a scene with.

And, you know,

we're on one of those rehearsal days

and he's just got his podium

on the wheels.

And we go through a scene

and we're going to move

to the other scene

sort of down the stage a little bit.

And as he's walking away,

rolling his thing, he turns to this guy who's in the scene with me and goes, hey, clear on the words. And the guy goes, which one, Jimmy? And he goes, all of them.
He kept walking. He is funny.
I fell to my knees laughing so hard. By the way, his book is incredible.
Yeah, it's really good. It's so good.
He once just simply yelled to me, stop pushing. That's it? Really? Yeah, I was pushing too hard, which reminds me of the most helpful note I ever got was very similar, not to drop a name, but I was doing a movie of the week in the early 90s on CBS CBS with the great Catherine Hepburn.
And I was doing a scene with her. What a talent.
She was our fighter. She said to me, she stopped in the middle of the scene.
I was supposed to be crying in the scene. It's just me and her.
And she stopped in the middle of the scene. And I'm trying to squeeze these tears out.
She goes, stop acting.

Wow.

And I said, like, forever?

Should I just quit?

No, no, in the scene.

Just say it.

Just say the words.

Forever.

Like forever?

Yeah.

This was like a career pivot.

She was like, she said, no, just say the words.

And she was right.

And then I just said the words and try to still do that every day love that yeah um wait so about your first two names uh so is this right were you gonna be adam i can't even say a quarteraro cordero but first it was cartararo well my mom's maiden name was. And so I was like, well, that's too long.
I wanted to, because part Sicilian, so I wanted to have like a Sicilian last name when I was in acting school to be more, you know, to sound like Al Pacino or Robert De Niro. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Right? Something with an O would be preferable. Yeah.
So you've got the Cortoraro. Nothing wrong with an Italian name.
Exactly. Wait, see, of course.
Something with an O would be preferable. Yeah.
So you've got the Cordero. Nothing wrong with an Italian name.
Exactly. See, this guy knows what I'm talking about.
Okay. So wait.
So I shortened it to Cordero, and I remember being in the library at the acting school I was at and writing Al Pacino, Robert De Niroiro, Adam Cordero and being like, oh yeah, that looks, that looks right. That's cool.
That's incredible. And then what happened? It didn't clear? Somebody had it? Yeah, I don't, yeah, that's right.
And it was with a Q too, Cordero. Oh, I like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you were like, hey, give me the name of all the Australian pro golfers.
That's right. Let's see a list.
Let's see a list. Adam Scott, that's the one.
Wait, so how did you come up with Scott? That's my actual name. Oh, it is? Yes.
Oh, I thought that was the other one. Oh, fucking great research, Sean.
Sean, that was his dad's maiden name. Okay, sure.
And so when you were born, you just took your dad's name? Okay, got it. That's right.
Wait, Adam, we've never talked about Adam Scott, the pro Australian golfer. Has that been an issue at all? Great swing.
Obviously, it's. He's got a great swing.
He doesn't have a beautiful swing. He's incredible, right? I mean, I don't play golf or follow golf, but I've certainly like.
Yeah, of course. It's come up, obviously.
lot worse. Yeah.
Okay. Have you ever met him? No, but we, I remember way, like 20 years ago, we did it.
We did an interview side by side and something. You have got to.
But you guys, he is like, you guys play golf and he's still like a great? He's very good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's very, very good. Well, I think it would be cool.
Have you met him? I've never met Adam. Sounds like you'd like to.
Scott, I like him a lot. He's very handsome.
He's very stylish. Why don't you DM him or something, weirdo? Like he's going to answer me.
But he, but I will say this. Years ago, when I first got on that social media site, formerly known as Twitter, there was a guy who had my handle by the name of Will Arnett.
And it turned out he lived in the middle of the country and he had my handle. Anyway, over the years, people would tag him mistakenly, thinking they were tagging me, whatever, and he and I ended up following each other and we'd talk to each other from time to time.
Really cool dude. Okay.
Years later, I'm in, you're with me so far? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is fun. Go ahead.
We're with you. And I went, anyway, I was in Vegas one time, and I ended up meeting up with him.
We took a photo together and got taken. It was fun meeting another Will Arnett.
It's fun. End of story? End of story, sure.
What a waste of time. Hang on.
So, but honestly. I so wish I had a story about meeting Adam Scott.
You arranged to meet one another and you took a photo together? Yeah. Is that what happened? Yeah.
Hang on, dude. You arranged to meet the guy that shares your name and handle on Twitter.
He reached out to me because he said, hey, I see that you're in Vegas. I'm in Vegas.
I'm also at Caesars right now. I said, where are you? And then we went over and we're like, what's up? After years, why not? That's not bizarre at all.
How did he know that you were at Caesars? Because I had posted a photo. Inside the casino? It's illegal.
Go ahead. What, do you work for the casino now? Not anymore.
Go ahead. The gaming commission? Like, what are you? So when you, so, and then, okay, so wait.
So now you're, he sees you walking towards him. You don't know what he looks like.
And he goes, Will, and you turn to him and your eyebrows go up high. And then was there a hug or a high five or both? I don't remember.
Y'all bet you do, fucking boring weirdo. I don't remember.
God, how long ago was this, Will? This is like 10 years ago. I'll bet you know the money.
10 years ago.

Can you imagine,

first of all,

A, Bateman leaving his house

for any reason,

but B,

going out into the real world

and doing anything

with any other person

that wasn't a means to an end

that somehow satisfied his ego?

Can you imagine?

If there was another Bateman, Jason,

and he had like a script

or something

that sounded promising,

I'd meet him.

Promising sounding script. He had a script.
like a script or something that sounded promising, I'd meet him. Yes.
Promising sounding script.

He had a script.

What a script.

I've got a one act.

There's a cop named Sean Hayes.

Anyway, you've got to meet Adam Scott, the golfer.

We're putting it out there.

At a casino, preferably.

Oh, God.

I got to link up with him and take a photo.

Sean, there's another Sean Hayes too?

There's a cop named Sean Hayes somewhere. All right, so wait.
I wanted to know when you first started. First of all, you're the youngest, just like me, out of all your family, right? And have you ever done theater, Adam? I've got theater stories, guys.
Here we go. Good, good, good.
No, but Adam, I wanted to ask you though, you're the youngest like I am and your parents got divorced like mine did. Sure.
And when you're a kid and you can't vocalize what you're going through, you internalize all of that stress and stuff and then it comes out later as anxiety. Is that what happened to you? Or did you learn how to, none? You were like, oh, I'm glad they're divorced.
I have no anxiety. No, I'm sure it did.
I don't, I mean, I think, you know, I think when I was so young, like five, I guess, when it happened. Yeah, me too, five.
Okay. I mean, that's pretty young for it to be your fault, but it seems, I'm sorry, keep going.
It was clear that it was my fault. And as I know, it was your fault as well.
Yeah, sure. well sure yeah I mean that's why I'm here talking to you but you still but you still have contact with your with your dad right yeah yeah for sure your dad didn't just he didn't drive off see you later right he didn't drive off and like the last thing you hear go fuck yourself.
And mother still got both the eyeballs in her? Sean, as a fan of the show, I really do want to know, do you have the eye? Yeah, my sister has it. Oh, your sister has it.
It's her turn. It's seasonal, Adam.

Have you ever posted a photo of it or anything like that? It's on the documentary.

I brought it on stage to show these guys.

He brought it on stage, yeah.

Oh, okay.

He graced us with it.

Incredibly distasteful.

Yeah.

I've seen that documentary, and I don't remember that.

I'll have to go back.

Just to keep an eye out.

It's a loose use of the word.

Keep an eye out for it.

Okay.

Okay, we heard. Wow.
All right. Wow.
Sean, keep an eye out. It's a loose use of the word.
Keep an eye out for it. Okay.
Okay.

We heard.

Wow.

All right.

Wow.

So wait,

question three.

Yeah.

Because we've gone through,

are you emotionally scarred

from your parents' divorce?

Yeah,

because I wanted to know that

because I have anxiety.

Any follow-ups?

What is it about your wife

that drives you crazy?

Fucking Jesus, Sean. And then your favorite of your two children, which one do you like the best? Take them in whatever order you want.
And then we'd love that theater story. Have you ever had an emotional affair with a coworker? Go ahead.
Well, I faxed you the questions, Adam. Didn't you get that fax? All right, so listen, you fell in love when you were a kid with acting because you saw the Raiders of the Lost Ark is what I read.
And I love that. Mine was E.T., but same era.
Sure. Where did you...
I don't know where you grew up. Santa Cruz up in the Bay Area.
Right on.

It's where they shot Lost Boys.

Oh, that's right.

That's right. That's pretty much the end of that story.

Jason, did you ever shoot anything up?

They used to shoot stuff in the 80s up in Santa Cruz.

I shot something in the back of my knee up there

in a cave in Santa Cruz.

My friend was going to UC Santa Cruz up there,

and boy, it came on real fast. No, kidding.
There is a cave though up there called Steamer's Lane there in Santa Cruz. That's a lot of fun.
He was up there with Leif Garrett. No, it wasn't with Leif on that trip, and there were no needles involved, but there might have been a stinky, skinny joint up there that was tough to stay lit.
That sounds like Santa Cruz. So the home of the slugs, banana slugs.
And when did you get that acting bug? Me or? Was that for the guests? Go ahead, Adam. Boy, I guess it probably was, you know, just seeing movies when you're a kid and you're like, I want to do that.
Like Temple of Doom and stuff. Yeah.
But what made it feel like within reach? Like everybody's got their own thing where they go like, yeah, I'm going to do it. Yeah.
It kind of never did. And that's why, like it was, I know know it's in California, but it may as well be on a different country or something.
We were so far removed from show business, it felt like going and being on TV or being in the movies felt like, I'm going to go to the moon or something. Right.
They just felt like. They came and shot East of Eden in Santa, like a miniseries version of East of Eden in our town.
And I remember they like put dirt out on the streets to make them look like dirt roads and had horses and horse-drawn carriages and then the actors' trailers. And I was like seven.
And I remember seeing that and just being blown away. Like, holy fuck.
And then you went to the American Academy of Dramatic Arts. How old were you when you did that? 18.
Was that high school? It was after high school. Okay.
And was that down in Los Angeles at that point? Yeah, in Pasadena at the time. Okay.
Oh, I'm a man. All right.
So then you made a deliberate move to come down and pursue it. Yeah.
And did you drive? It was a classic like drive down there with a bunch of shit strapped to the roof. A bunch of shit strapped to the roof of my 68 Rambler.
And boy, what a hard career to start, Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Just like coming in cold and not knowing a soul. Sean tried to do that.
Everything blew off the roof, didn't it? Yeah, me and my sister drove me home from college. Did that really happen? It really did happen.
We were super stoned driving home. Didn't want to take that as a sign and hooky-yooey? No, because we looked in the rearview mirror and we were singing songs.
We both just smoked pot. We were both 18, whatever, around 1890.
Or no, out of college, 20, 21, 22. I'm just looking up statute of limitations here, one second.
Yeah, smoking pot. You're probably fine.
And in the rear view mirror, we saw all my clothes flying out. We're just like, do you want to turn back? And my sister's like, nah.
I go, me neither. No way, you kept going? Some clothes on the highway.
Yeah. But anyway.

Well, strapping stuff to the roof is like not,

you know,

and when you're like 20,

you're not going to do

a good job strapping

anything anywhere.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

You don't realize the science.

And at that point,

you're like, fuck it,

I can buy short shorts

anywhere.

I'll just get a bunch

of different, right?

So,

but you move here

and then,

or you move here and then,

or you move to Los Angeles

and then you're like,

you go to the American Academy

and then you're done with that.

And it's like, okay.

As you said, this is a tough way to start.

You're like, all right.

Yeah, dude.

Where do we go now?

Was it commercials first?

It was background work first. I just moved from school.
I moved to Hollywood and just started like going and trying to do whatever and didn't know anyone. Yeah.
And we did a lot of background work and then got like a guest spot on something and then got a little agent and then just sort of, you know. Yeah.
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And back to the show. What was the first thing where it's like, oh, this is going to give me a little bit of capital that I can maybe use for a couple of jobs.
Like what was the first kind of big thing? I mean, I think part of the self-delusion you need in order to survive, you think that every time you get anything, you're like, oh, fuck, okay, now. But it turned out that I didn't really have a career until like 15 years later.
And what was that? What was the thing? It was like this period of time where it was like Park, Step Brothers, Party Down, like this period of like three years where these things all happened. Oh, I see.
Yeah, but you were definitely a working actor that I was certainly well aware of before those three things happened. But you're saying those three things kind of put you in another category or maybe you weren't really auditioning anymore and people, you had some incoming calls, yeah? A bit.
It was just, I remember when that started happening and I remember getting some incoming phone calls from like Mike and Polar, like, hey, do you want to maybe, and just being like, oh, this is what it's like to actually have something going. I thought when I did Murder One, I was on top of the world.
Yeah, yeah. Thank you.
I didn't care for it. Adam, but I thought this was really cool when you were 14 like because Will was talking about at the top about like doing Conan so many times and Jimmy Kimmel and all those shows and you were obsessed with Letterman which I loved I was too as a kid and how did you when you were 14 talk about that when you were 14 you went to how did you coerce your parents in letting you go to New York to go, you went to a taping or something? Well, we went to, we went to, we were on like a family trip and I was just like, let's go to 30 Rock so I can get a Letterman t-shirt.
And we were there, didn't even think about doing the tour or anything. We were just at the gift shop and my brother and I saw Chris Elliott walk by and we were like, oh, holy shit.
And we just chased him down, and he stopped and talked to us for like 20 minutes. It was amazing.
That's cool. It was a great Chris Elliott.
Those Chris Elliott bits back from Letterman were unbelievable. Unbelievable.
So good. And then what was the name of the old man that would always be on the show? Biff Henderson? No, no, no.
No, no, no, no. Oh, Larry Bud Melman? Yeah, Larry Bud Melman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whose real name was? DeForest Kelly, I think.
No, no, no, that's the guy on Star Trek. No, no, no, no, but you're right in the ballpark.
DeForest something. Yeah, we'll get it.
I remember when we talked to Chris Elliott, he was talking to us for a while, and then he was like, I got to go, but you guys should watch the show tonight. I'm going to try something new out.
And it was the first night he did his, remember he did Marlon, this really weird Marlon Brando impression? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that was what that was.
Calvert DeForest. Calvert DeForest.
Calvert DeForest. So, but what was that like? Because, you know, I think all of us, when you're like Jason, always talked about the first time he did The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, how like, that you're like, oh God, I'm on that thing that all the other famous people are on.
So I must be in that, right? So having been obsessed with Letterman when you were growing up, I assume you were on, yeah, many times. Yes, I did it twice before he finished, yeah.
I mean, that was doing Letterman, as I'm sure it was for you guys too, was a major like life moment the first time I did that. That's it, that was it.
Yeah, petrifying, petrifying. It was everything.
I had my brother come out and so he was in the audience. And I mean know it's just the best and he he was so cool and hilarious and uh i just couldn't believe it i'm sure i was nervous and terrible but yeah it was really something um wait so why was your nick why was your nickname spanky here we go wasn't your nickname spanky when you were a kid well it was when i was in in little league i had they called me i was a heavier kid for a few years and i was on the baseball team and so the kids called me spanky because the kid um uh little rascals the heavy kid on Little Rascals.
You know what?

I had the opposite problem

because I grew up so skinny.

I could not gain weight.

I would drink milkshakes

and go work out with my brother

and eat burgers.

I couldn't gain weight.

Sure made up for it.

You fixed it.

Sorry.

Walk right into that.

You sure did. Yeah.
But it's so funny because people you know make fun of fat kids all the time when you're in school all the other kids are mean but like i when i was a kid people used to make fun of me for being so skinny people were like well you know it was just skinny shame what would you give to have people make fun of you for being skinny yeah yeah exactly 100 um and%. But the thing is, back then, the kids were all calling me Spanky, but then eventually the coach started calling me Spanky as well.
Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's good.
Wait, so then you married, so your wife, Naomi, for my sister, Tracy, Naomi Sapp. Did you say Sablon or Sapp? Sablon, right? It's Scott, but yeah, her maiden name was Sablon.
When you met her, that was her name. And she was a producer.
And how did you meet her? On a show? We met, no, we met at a bar, at the Cat and the Fiddle on Georgia. I love Cat and the Fiddle.
Yeah, I used to go all the time. The outside so you could smoke.
Yes. Yeah, I used to go all the time.
That was the best. Yeah.
We met there in like 1998. Wow.
That's crazy. I was there.
We probably ran into each other and didn't know it. Crazy.
I would go there all the time. Same.
Like that and the Dragonfly. Do you remember? Oh, yeah.
I would go to Cat and Fiddle. That's it.
Isn't that when you had a candle on your dashboard? Oh, yeah. This is why I don't go out anymore.
You know, these guys make fun of me, but I've fixed my ways. But Adam, I used to go to Cat and Fiddle all the time with Julie Bowen, and that's when we'd make out and stuff.
But anyway, so, and then, but you, so it was- Julie Bowen, everybody. Julie Bowen.
Julie Bowohn, she's the best. I love her.
Julie.

You used to have family karaoke nights,

and you love Billy Joel.

I love Billy Joel.

Just did a documentary.

It's coming out on HBO about him.

Oh, you did?

Really?

Yeah, produced it in my company.

Oh, amazing.

Yeah, Billy Joel.

Well, hang on a second.

Yeah, Billy Joel.

You're a huge Billy Joel.

He's the piano man.

Sorry. So stupid.
Just crushing this bitch to death. Wait, are you a singer? No, I can't sing at all.
Oh, so you just kind of do it. Yeah, I guess so.
Where are you right now? What room are we enjoying? This is our office over on Radford. It is on Radford.
Did you just say Radford? I did. How did you know that? I don't know.
There was something about the bleakness of it that looked like Radford. Are you still doing the show, Severance? I thought it was Radford.
No, this is Naomi and I have a company that we have in our office here. Oh, that's great.
That's fucking crazy that I just... That's insane that you just said Radford.
Now, they're about to redo that whole studio. Have you been consulted about that? No, they haven't asked me anything about that, and now I'm pretty fucking pissed.
Yeah, no, they can redo the whole thing. Bring the blueprints over and go through it with me.
What are you excited about that's coming out of your company? Well, we're developing a bunch of stuff right now. Do you like that kind of work? Like working with writers and taking a script? I do.
I know you do too. I'm sure I know all of you guys do.
Yes, I do. I mean, I think like, and I don't know if it's the same for you guys, but after acting for so long, it's nice to use all the hours of your day, you know, because you, after a certain number of years, you realize that, that acting can take up this much.
And, but if you're, you know, producing or whatever, you can sort of stay busy, all of it. Yeah.
And sort of keep your eye on the whole thing, the thing as a whole,

instead of just your little part of it that you can't really control all that much.

Are they listening to you at all over there on Severance?

Let's get you in trouble here.

Let's do it.

When you have thoughts and ideas over there at Severance,

fun to get there and get involved?

Yeah, for sure.

Dan Erickson, who created it, and Ben. That and Ben.
Yeah. Dan Erickson and Ben Stiller.
Yeah, it's a great group of people. We have great time.
And where are you in that process? You're out here in L.A. You're obviously not shooting.
You are waiting to hear about a third season, or plans to start it? Well, they're not going to not make a third season. Yeah, we're hopeful that we'll be able to make a third season.
When would you start doing that if they do? Hopefully really soon. So it's not, you know, this last break was like three years, a three-year wait between seasons.
So hopefully it'll be a lot shorter than that. And that's in New York, right? New York, yeah.
And how does that work with... Family.
Yeah, do you... Sometimes it's an annoying thing to hear about us complain about, but it is a real thing.
It's not easy to manage working away from Los Angeles where a lot of the work happens. It is.
It's really hard with family because I know you just finished something out there. For Severance, it's like nine, ten months we're shooting that show.
Wow. So it's just like, you know, you're just gone.
And I know I try and fly back as much as possible, but I don't end up with much time off. But the kids, the good thing is teenagers, they plow out on their own if they want to, and they love going to New York.
You figure it out, but it's a drag. It's hard.
Go back to, I didn't know you love music as much as I do or probably Will does.

What do you mean like a musical? Jason doesn't know what he loves.

Jason doesn't care for music.

No, he doesn't get it.

I like sounds.

He just goes, somebody tell me what's cool.

You did a whole podcast about U2, which I didn't know, and R.E.M.

And did you meet Bono or U2 or anything?

Is that true?

Yeah, it was in the intro. Yeah, we did.
Scott Ackerman and I... Don't get pissed off, Sean.
Scott Ackerman and I... It was in my fucking written intro.
We started a podcast about U2 just sort of as a joke because U2 kind of felt like a funny, funny subject matter just because they're so sort of mainstream. We go and analyze that.
We weren't sure what it was going to be, but we just started going album by album through U2's catalog. Both of us growing up with them and being fans and stuff.
But then, and it's so stupid. It's ridiculous bits and stuff, but super fun.
But then eventually, and it was not our intention at all when we started it, eventually we did have the band on a couple of times. That's amazing.
That's cool. Yeah, it was super crazy.
Did you see them perform at the Sphere? Yeah. Yeah.
Wasn't that incredible? That venue is just stunning. That's crazy.
Yeah, I went opening night, I think, like the very first, yeah. It was wild.
First of all, thank you for being here today. Theater stories.
Yeah, well, by the way, if you have a theater story, I love a good theater story. You can tell me now.
We can end strong right here. I actually don't.
All right. Okay, next do so finish strong sean come on no i i i i want to talk about like billy joel and like why you love him so much because i love him so much and you i think you met paul rudd and you got to meet billy joel and you and paul met him at the same time or something we had him we we i did this thing uh naomi and i made this show for adult swim where we recreated opening credit sequences for TV shows from the 80s.
That's funny. Shot for shot made these opening credit sequences.
So we did Bosom Buddies with Rudd and I as those guys. That's funny.
And it was a Billy Joel song, obviously, was the theme song. And so as part of the fake documentary about the making of this thing, we got Billy Joel to join us and play the song for us.
I want to see that. He was great.
He was really funny and great. That's cool, yeah.
Sean, I didn't know that you liked Billy Joel so much. I love Billy Joel.
I know I play his music. I sing his songs.
My go-to is Honesty. I love that song.
Oh, it's a great song. Did you see him at the Madison Square Garden? Oh, the song.
Yeah, because I was about to say bullshit. Yeah, bullshit on that.
But, okay. No, I couldn't make it out for Madison Square Garden, but I really wanted to.
But I've seen him in concert many, many times. Yeah, it's great.
Another guy with two first names. Yeah, that's right.
Oh, man. Billy Joel, yeah, look at that.
Adam Cordero. That's me.
Adam Cordero. That's me.
Adam Scott, listen, I wanted to ask you, but we ran out of time. We're saying goodbye, but you must get stopped.
People must stop you all the time because of stuff you do, but stepbrothers, people must go crazy on you, right? Yeah, it's still, like, that was, you know, a while ago, and yeah, people love that movie. I know, but it was so popular.
Love that movie. And I love it too.
I'm sure I would feel that way if I wasn't. I love turning it on anytime I see it.
Anytime I see it on TV, I watch it. It's so good.
You're so good in that movie. You've never sucked.
Everything you do, you're great in. So I would imagine a lot of people, you've been a part of a lot of really great things that are very cool in the comedy world.
Thank you. And it's something you should, I'm sure you do really are proud of.
Well, likewise. And you know, the part of that, when I was talking earlier about that, kind of figuring it out when we started Party Down, the other part of that that I was gonna get to was when I was telling someone about the show, I forget who it was.
I was like, yeah, it's this catering team and I'm kind of at the center of it and I'm not sure what to do. And they're like, oh, you're at the center of it? Like Bateman on Arrested Development.
Right, which is the craziness circling around him. Yes.
and that was so key to kind of figuring it out.

I was watching the show anyway,

but really thinking about it from that perspective is very key.

Right, like how could you do?

How can I be a robot?

Go ahead, Will.

How could you be a sort of charmless?

That's right.

Emotionless.

How could you suck all the charisma?

Charismaless and just be a blank mayonnaise on mayonnaise on egg? Thank you, Will. Well, what an inspiration.
Happy to provide some sort of guidance. Adam, we love you.
Thank you for being here today. Guys, thank you for having me.
Such a fan of the show. Really cool.
Adam, love you. Adam.
Love you guys. Please pass on our regards to Naomi.
Yeah. Thank you.
Yeah. Thank you.
Yeah. Thanks for doing this.
Please tell Abel and Archie. I doubt they remember me, but please tell them hello.
They're like- I saw Abel yesterday. Full teenagers now.
They are full teenagers. I will.
JB ran into, Abe texted me from school. That's how I knew JB.
And he's like, I just ran into Jason and he grabbed my ear. And I was like, yeah, that sounds about right.
And you know, they are such big fans. I can say this.
They're such big fans of yours and of Parks and Rec, even though it's their mom's show. During the pandemic, we watched Abe and I watched all these episodes,

like most of Parks and Rec, again,

watched it all the way through.

And then I would say to Amy, like,

hey, that episode was really good.

Right.

Super high like that.

Yeah, like eight years later.

My kids have yet to see Parks and Rec.

They're just, they don't care at all. Do they, I don't know.

Don't care.

Your kids are like mine. They don't watch anything that we do.
Nothing. They haven't watched Arrested Development.
And Abe loves comedy. Well, neither is Sean, right? No, Sean's never watched it.
And he is one of our children. So wait, Abe and Archie have not watched Arrested? No, and their friends have and they're like, Abe was like, a lot of my friends love BoJack Horseman.
We're going to strap these kids down one goddamn day. They should watch Arrested Development and they should watch BoJack Horseman.
I know. And Parks and Rec.
We're going to strap them down and they will respect us. Amy kind of guilted them into it though.
Right. If I'm being honest.
If I'm being totally honest. That sounds like not bad.
In a way that only Polar can fine. Don't watch it, you know.
Your choice. Adam, thank you, dude.
Guys, thank you. Love you, buddy.
Great to see you. Love you too.
Bye. Bye-bye.
Take it easy. Now that feels like we kind of deprived the audience of a really good interview because it just felt like we were just sitting on the couch.
He was over here at one of our homes

like he always is.

And I feel like we were undisciplined.

I was.

No.

Disrespectful.

Just a bunch of bullshit,

not really asking questions.

You know what?

No, it was like the Catherine Han episode,

you know, where a good friend comes on

and we just kind of chit-chat.

Yeah, just a bunch of bullshit.

Yeah.

We apologize, listener.

We're just children.

Adam likes to fuck around

and do bits and joke around.

And so, why not?

Yeah.

I mean, it must have been like that

on Will and Grace.

Oh.

I love it.

Everybody's gay.

I find it too good about my sexuality. I feel safe to come out now.
Please let me out. Can I sit closer to the stage now? I'm in here.
I can't see anything from that key. That is so funny.
It's so great. Hey, but listen, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, you need people like Adam Scott.
Good for you to bring it back. Look at you.

What a responsible steward of our show.

I'm trying to talk slowly here as I try to think up a bye.

No, I got one.

So by having, okay, by having Adam in our world, socially, professionally, what, Sean?

It's wonderful.

It's wonderful.

It's like what your Italian friend would say, ciao, but we would say. Instead, we would say, bye-bye.
Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
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