"Carey Mulligan"

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Speaker 1 My back is sweating

Speaker 1 from drinking hot tea. My

Speaker 1 front is sweating. I have sweats on.
I'm sweating. Sean, your microphone is on.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Sean, your microphone is is on sorry sorry sorry why do you think they call it sweats you think they call it sweats because you're supposed to sweat in in those inside those clothes yeah probably um but like what did they not invent shorts no but did they come to the center of a genius sandwich

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Speaker 1 hey good morning is this better for everybody 9 30 in the morning hi is in the morning better now? How about that? We're going to have a little less complain.

Speaker 2 Who's complaining?

Speaker 1 No, we had a few late nights. Well, one of them you called a late night.
It was at 4 p.m. I was already in my pajamas.
Oh, well, that's pretty late. I know.

Speaker 2 That was a late night. Unless you're in Hawaii.
I know.

Speaker 1 You know, then it's lunch.

Speaker 2 Right now, it's lunch in New York City.

Speaker 1 It's lunch in New York City, yeah.

Speaker 2 But it's breakfast here in L.A.

Speaker 1 It is. Look, I got my tea.

Speaker 2 Good morning, you guys. What did you guys have for breakfast this morning?

Speaker 1 Nothing yet. Really?

Speaker 1 I actually had a

Speaker 1 piece of toast with some natural peanut butter and a couple of slices of banana on top. Sounds fun.
I wasn't feeling great this morning. Oh, really? What happened? I don't know.

Speaker 2 Is it Tummy? Is it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, a little Tummy

Speaker 1 baby woke up in the night. Well, he's not a baby anymore, but

Speaker 1 a little throw up in the middle of the night. Oh, my God, Ricky threw up last night.
Really? Yeah. Maybe Denny got into your trash.

Speaker 1 Ricky.

Speaker 1 I don't eat till noon. Is that right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then it's fucking watch out.

Speaker 1 Everybody's in trouble.

Speaker 1 Do you really do it?

Speaker 2 You do that fasting thing?

Speaker 1 Is that what time the timer on the locks goes off?

Speaker 1 On the cabinet? On the cabinet.

Speaker 2 That's what Scotty set all the timers for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can hear the tick-tick.

Speaker 2 Are you doing a

Speaker 2 let's not eat for

Speaker 1 12 hours thing? Yeah, sure. I've just never, ever, never been hungry ever in my whole life in the morning.
I just, the first time I eat it, but you are right about the watch out.

Speaker 1 I eat everything.

Speaker 1 And then you'll go late.

Speaker 2 Will you eat late? No, and then I'll have a really little dinner.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 And then snacks.

Speaker 2 Let's check the tape on that.

Speaker 1 Will, can we run the tape on that? Yeah, I mean, I was just going to say, that's true.

Speaker 1 Little what?

Speaker 1 A little heavy on the cheese? Like, what do we?

Speaker 1 No, I eat just a little, but I do. I eat little portions so I can eat big desserts.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
You save the room for the dessert. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, yeah. I met

Speaker 1 yesterday, Will FaceTimed me. I was in the middle of therapy, and I was like, yeah, I'll pick it up.
And she's like, oh, excuse me. And I was like, yeah.
My therapist is like, oh, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 And he says, and the first thing he says is,

Speaker 1 Hey, man, I go, hey, he goes, I go, I'm in therapy. And I showed a picture.
I turned the camera around. My therapist therapist is like, hello.
And he goes, oh, my therapist just died.

Speaker 1 I was like, really? And he said, he collapsed from the weight of my secrets.

Speaker 1 I thought that was pretty funny.

Speaker 2 It's true. Do you often take calls during therapy?

Speaker 1 No, but my phone just happened to be like the flap open. You know, you call it my purse.
Oh,

Speaker 1 right. Yeah.
And I thought it was heavy. My phone book.
My phone book. Huh? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Gosh, should we get in it?

Speaker 1 This is fun.

Speaker 2 Is it too early to do a podcast?

Speaker 1 No, it's not too early.

Speaker 2 You're still in bed.

Speaker 1 No, it's not too early. I'm just a little quiet today.
Like I said, I wasn't, I'm feeling very

Speaker 2 spokis. What's the Yiddish term?

Speaker 1 Because you didn't sleep. You're like, you're a little LGD, low-grade depression.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe it is.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I want to call it that, but maybe it is, but also just very sort of very kind of pensive. Yeah, that's what it is.
You didn't sleep.

Speaker 1 Well, that's all right.

Speaker 2 Because you know he's going to put a nice wash of warmth and positivity over your day.

Speaker 1 Our guest is like, great, I got to lift the hosts up.

Speaker 2 Here she comes. Our guest is an actor so filled with taste, talent, and accomplishment.
I feel classy just thinking about her, you guys.

Speaker 2 She's got the awards and nominations, sure, a long list of impressive films and a stack of big shot co-stars and directors.

Speaker 2 But most impressive, Will, is a particular kind of light that she sends out from the characters she plays.

Speaker 2 It's always something authentic, it's fully human, often complex, but somehow fully relatable.

Speaker 2 We never catch her acting, Will. It always just feels like we're spying on a character caught in the middle of something, you know, Sean?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. How does she do it? I like the way you personalize it.
Does she enjoy it? I hope we're going to find out. What else does she do? Hobbies?

Speaker 2 What's it like being married to a rock star? Does she prefer coffee, tea, cake, pie, Beyonce, or Tay Tay? Guys, let's figure it all out. Please welcome Carrie Mulligan.
Oh,

Speaker 1 Carrie. Hi, Carrie.

Speaker 1 So, Will, don't you feel warm and washed? I do. I am a particular fan of Carrie's.
Will. I'm a huge fan.
It's true. Will.

Speaker 1 Carrie, it's true. I told you I was, I have had the

Speaker 1 pleasure. I've had the

Speaker 1 seeing Carrie's latest performance in Maestro.

Speaker 1 and it has rocked me since the day I've seen it. Carrie, I've been telling everybody, and I don't want to embarrass you.
You're so sweet. It's true.

Speaker 3 I was so nervous

Speaker 3 when you were at...

Speaker 3 Hi, everyone, by the way. Hi.

Speaker 1 Hi, Carrie. This is so nice.
Nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 So nice to meet you.

Speaker 3 I was so nervous that you were at Bradley's house and we had that screening. And all I wanted to say the whole night was...

Speaker 3 Marcus and I fall asleep to rest a development, not in a falling asleep, but like that's ours.

Speaker 1 That's weird.

Speaker 3 You already already said it we literally i could i can quote the show and um and i was too nervous to say anything and afterwards marcus was like why were you so cool you should have just said it and i was like i can't but i was so excited and so nervous for you to see it and it meant the world that you liked it so oh great

Speaker 1 love

Speaker 1 i can't wait to see it but but uh carrie

Speaker 1 god it is jason you're right carrie you have done so many look at how up will is already i have like carrie you've been listening so far far. I know.

Speaker 2 He was down, he was in his tummy,

Speaker 1 right? And you just woke him up.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what it's like with the little ones, right? So we just so little Denny woke up at one, and then he barfed in his bed, and then he came into our bed, then he barfed in our bed.

Speaker 1 Oh, then we stripped all the sheets.

Speaker 1 It was 1:15. We're stripping the sheets, and he's on the thing, he's got all this past Friday.
He goes, Where are we going to sleep?

Speaker 1 Oh, but I know

Speaker 1 I've done that. So you've been there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So why don't you just you could treat him like, just like a dog, you know, and put him in a room locked up where you don't hear if he starts crying or yelling or yelling or barking.

Speaker 2 And the throw-up just you can deal with in the morning.

Speaker 1 See how that goes. Where did you sleep, Will? Where did you end up sleeping? Well, we ended up, oh God, it was a real hodgepodge that all night.

Speaker 1 I slept on one side of our bed and then Sandra took him back and was in with his bed.

Speaker 1 But one of the good new one of the good things, and then we'll stop this, we'll get into Carrie, is that he learned, now he knows how to throw up in a trash, like in a bucket.

Speaker 1 I taught him that. And at first, he was like, wait, I'm going to know.
And now he's like, I have to be sick now. And then he goes over and does it.
And it's really sweet that he's learned that.

Speaker 2 Maybe get a pail he can just kind of put over his head, you know,

Speaker 2 like a little

Speaker 1 handle. I'm going to.

Speaker 2 And it just kind of hangs around his head like a necklace.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say your parenting tips are really, they're bordering on dangerous, a lot of them.

Speaker 1 So Carrie Mulligan, where are we finding you right now? God, it's great to see you.

Speaker 3 I'm in LA.

Speaker 1 Oh, right. Yeah.
Fantastic.

Speaker 3 Doing the stuff.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. For the little press tour for the movie.

Speaker 3 So our film comes out very soon. So it worked out that we just suddenly went from naught to 60 and jumped on flights.
And so now we're here.

Speaker 2 Right, because the strike went away and you could talk about this thing that I'm sure you and Bradley are excited to discuss because it is so damn good.

Speaker 2 You know, I mean, I think we've all done projects where it's like, oh, now I got to go talk about how great it is in quotes.

Speaker 2 But this one truly is.

Speaker 3 I know it's so nice to not have to lie. It's so nice to just.

Speaker 1 Carrie, can I just say, and again, at the risk of embarrassing you,

Speaker 1 and people will be able to go and can see Maestro in theaters and then be able to watch it on Netflix.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't want to embarrass you.

Speaker 1 I think that your performance in Maestro is one of the great performances I've seen in the last 20 years. I really do.
It really is. It's so moving and beautiful.

Speaker 1 Sean, you won't get it. I won't catch it.
Sean won't, definitely. Sean won't get it because it's not as much.

Speaker 2 It's for music there's pianos and stuff in it.

Speaker 1 Not for him. But

Speaker 1 Sean, the music part, Sean, it's going to blow you away as a piano. The whole thing.

Speaker 1 And as a pianist. The whole thing.
But Carrie, you do, and obviously Bradley is incredible in every way. But Carrie, there's something about what you've done in this film that I honestly,

Speaker 1 it's transformative.

Speaker 1 I hate using the word because it's so gross, and we always shy away from certain sort of catchphrases that we as actors or filmmakers or whatever often use.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say storyteller, but you truly are an artist. I really mean that.
It's a tight second.

Speaker 1 It is a tight second, followed only by very closely

Speaker 1 physically doing prey hands.

Speaker 1 But truly. So I just want to say that if whatever you do,

Speaker 1 if there ever is an endorsement that we've ever done in this show, this is one. Please see Carrie Mulligan in my stro.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I have a question about it because I didn't get, Bradley showed me like clips early on, and he invited me to one screening and I couldn't go. But I can't wait to see it.

Speaker 1 But when you, I've heard only great things like Will saying, when you do a role like that, how much

Speaker 1 prep time do you give yourself? How much work do you put into it before you start day one? And how nervous are you in playing such an incredible character on the first day of filming?

Speaker 1 Where do you get the confidence of like, I think I got this. I'll be rolling.
Watch this. Watch what I'm going to do with this oh god yeah yeah

Speaker 3 I don't know I don't I don't I don't think I've had a part like this I mean I've had parts I sort of feel like I've had parts like this on stage you know

Speaker 3 like really really

Speaker 3 rich big kind of sort of something epic about them parts but not like amazing I've had such amazing you know luck with with jobs but on screen I don't when he offered it to me I was shocked because first of all I thought oh you you think I can act?

Speaker 1 That's so nice.

Speaker 3 But secondly, that just, you know, I don't know. It was like he just on a storage one.
He could have, you know, it was just wild to think, like, oh, gosh, you're trusting me with this.

Speaker 3 But within that conversation, he said, you know, if you're going to do this, you have to go all in, you know. And I thought, like,

Speaker 3 oh, God, not like all in, you know.

Speaker 3 But it's not, I don't, you know, I've always sort of been a bit like, ugh,

Speaker 3 people keeping their dialect in between scenes and thinking of him like that.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Everyone's got different processes,

Speaker 2 different definitions of all-in.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but then, but then I was like, oh, I think I have to do Bradley's all-in, which is, as you will know, like all-in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sounds so good when you say that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And with this one particularly, he had to be all-in because he not only plays the lead, but also, or co-lead, but also wrote it, directed it, produced it.

Speaker 1 Like, that's a lot. And Carrie, you have to play, you're a character.
You, I mean, you start,

Speaker 1 we meet you,

Speaker 1 you're just this sort of, your character is this sort of budding young performer, actress, and then you, and then you fall into this sort of deep relationship with this other person.

Speaker 1 And really, the movie is about this relationship between these two people.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we go with you through your life, through this character's life,

Speaker 1 on this incredible journey. And we see all these different stages.
And it's really impressive to watch some, you know,

Speaker 1 people have done things like that before, but

Speaker 1 that's no small feat as an actor to go through that, to track that, to be present in all those different stages of that person's life

Speaker 1 is, I can imagine, is very difficult as an actor.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but you know, I think it was, it was like Bradley did all the work, you know, he did all the work on his character. I mean, he did, I mean, I don't know how he did it.

Speaker 3 He's some sort of like genius. It's just so crazy, you know, like the script, the, you know, everything is just mad.
So he was, he was ringing me up. I'm sure he's doing this to you.

Speaker 3 He was ringing me up as Lenny, like two years before we started shooting, FaceTiming in character.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was madness. Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 You know, I was putting the kids to bed, and it would just suddenly be.

Speaker 1 Let her bird size on the phone.

Speaker 1 I'll call you back.

Speaker 3 But, you know, yeah, he's just, so I feel like, and so then I got into it really early as well because I signed on in like 2018 and we didn't shoot till 2022.

Speaker 3 So I had, you know, time and I had an opportunity to sort of really kind of do lots of the work.

Speaker 3 We narrated an opera together, you know, in Philadelphia, one of his operas, you know, so we did so much that by the time we got onto that and we did the sort of mad dream workshop thing, I'm sure he told you about where we sort of spent a week together, you know, crying a lot.

Speaker 3 And so by the time we got there, I actually, it was one of the first, maybe the first time I didn't feel completely terrified on day one because I sort of felt like, oh, you know, we've kind of got, you know, we've kind of got our thing.

Speaker 3 And, and he just, you know, he, he made it so that you could just basically do anything and it didn't matter. And that was so fun.

Speaker 2 One of the things that I love about your abilities is that you, you, every character you play, you're, you're so sort of, it seems, in touch with kind of their internal stuff.

Speaker 2 And you're really doing, you can really feel your character thinking and feeling before they're talking, before they're performing, before they're doing anything physical.

Speaker 2 That is something that's fairly...

Speaker 2 It's much easier to capture on film because camera is close to you. It can be.
But on stage, you often have to consider the person in the back row too.

Speaker 1 How,

Speaker 2 tell me about the difference in,

Speaker 2 not in process and all stuff because I don't want to put the audience to sleep, but

Speaker 2 was that a difficult thing for you to kind of calibrate and modulate as you went from theater into film? Because

Speaker 2 you're so small and subtle in film in a great way.

Speaker 2 Yet I'm sure you can't really do that on stage and still be as effective.

Speaker 3 It's weird because I kind of had to reverse engineer it because I didn't, my first job was a film.

Speaker 3 But I had done lots of, I mean, I was never going to be a film, like theater, a musical theater was what I wanted to do.

Speaker 1 Really? Okay. Oh, Sean just woke up.
I know.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 I'm pointing at his little box on the screen.

Speaker 1 Which ones, and we'll go through them all.

Speaker 3 Okay, cool.

Speaker 3 So I didn't really kind of... So I did Pride and Prejudice.
That was my first job.

Speaker 3 And I played this little, you know, I played one of the Bennett sisters and just ran around Jennim alone for the whole summer, like, you know, giggling.

Speaker 3 And then I went to the Royal Court Theatre and did my first play straight afterwards. And that was like a real,

Speaker 3 you know, and I didn't train, I didn't go to drama school, so I felt completely unqualified to do any of it. So I sort of, I think I just sort of learned from the job, but

Speaker 3 I think I only ever found the difference being in reaching the back of the room with my voice, not with my anything else. So I don't really think I did modulate anything.

Speaker 3 And maybe that's not, but I've always, but I've also only played like maximum a thousand seats.

Speaker 2 But you definitely had a trust that people were getting it, were seeing it, you were communicating with the audience.

Speaker 2 And how did you, how did you get that trust, that confidence, that feeling without having gone through any sort of training or any sort of practicing or education in it.

Speaker 2 What gave you the sense that you were good at acting and that you knew what you were doing, that you were capable of it?

Speaker 3 I don't know if I got, I mean, I just,

Speaker 3 I feel like I just got,

Speaker 3 I got a really great part when I was, when I was 21, I got to play Nina and the Seagull

Speaker 3 at the Royal Court in London and I worked with an amazing cast on that.

Speaker 3 And that character is just the, it's the most, it's sort of what I mean about, you know, not getting to play a part like Felicia on screen. You know, that's Nina is sort of that kind of role.

Speaker 3 You know, she really goes from this innocent, young, kind of naive, wannabe star to someone who is completely kind of destroyed by her experiences by the end of the breadth of her experience is just so amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 1 But what

Speaker 1 I like Jason question was like, what gave you the guts to connecting with you?

Speaker 2 Well, I was trying to get to the place of life, which I'm sure she's too humble to say, but that it's natural for you, yeah?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No,

Speaker 1 I'm joking because, yeah, that's right. It is natural for you.
And kind of like,

Speaker 1 Sean.

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, I was going to say, kind of, Jason, you touched on it, but

Speaker 1 in reference to what you had said, Carrie, that

Speaker 1 you said that you didn't go to drama school or anything, and

Speaker 1 yet you lived and worked in this environment that very much there is a sort of hierarchy in that way

Speaker 1 because in this sort of the English acting and

Speaker 1 you know performing community, if you didn't go to Rada or if you didn't go whatever, there's a kind of like, hmm, who are you a little bit? And you must have felt I

Speaker 1 and tell me, I'm asking you, did you ever feel like an outsider in that way and that you had to work extra hard to prove that you were just as good as a lot of these sort of fops who came, not people who came out of drama school?

Speaker 3 Oh yeah, I mean I the first play I did professionally was straight off to Pride and Prejudice and I and the director had to the first preview

Speaker 3 they were all all the cast went into this room to go and warm up and I

Speaker 3 and they and I could hear it because they had the little speaker thing on and I could hear it in my dressing room then and they were all going oh

Speaker 3 but you know doing all the weird like and I just thought fucking hell like I'm not I can't I'm in my whole body just like closed I just thought I'm not doing that I'm not doing that and the director Katie Mitchell literally came into the room and she she physically moved me into that room and sort of just sat me on the floor and was like, just try.

Speaker 3 And I just sat there going, oh God, this is so fucking embarrassing. I can't.
Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 But I think maybe towards the end of that, I started feeling a bit more comfortable. You know, it just sort of felt like, not just embarrassing, but also like, I look like such a tip.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't know what I'm, you know, any noises that I make are not the noises you're meant to make.

Speaker 3 But it was funny because

Speaker 1 they're going to look at you and go, like, what noises are you making? We're making corrections. We're making making these ridiculous noises.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they were all like, but they were all like rapid fire doing Shakespeare monologues.

Speaker 3 And, you know, it was just sort of.

Speaker 3 But somehow, by the time I got to New York, we did The Seagull in London, then we did The Seagull in New York.

Speaker 3 And in New York, Zoe Kazan played Masher, and we became best friends in the world.

Speaker 3 And we used to go downstage on every night and we would just sing, Do You Hear the People Sing from Les Mes Rabla on stage?

Speaker 1 And that was our warm-up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's good. That you had at least.

Speaker 3 That became like the thing that, you know, that, so that I made my own weird noise.

Speaker 3 But yeah, so I think by the time I did that, I felt like, oh, I kind of, not that I'm like, but I felt comfortable that I was an actor a bit.

Speaker 1 So now did you feel part of the club? Sorry, Sean, just to follow up on that part, did you feel like

Speaker 1 at that point, you know, you became

Speaker 1 doing that.

Speaker 1 Did you, and you were having success?

Speaker 1 Did you kind of feel like, okay, like I've now carved out my own sort of path and I don't have to worry worry about that other sort of stuff. Now I have my own sounds.
Sort of, I mean,

Speaker 3 sort of. I mean, sort of.
I think I just, yeah, I all felt kind of fluky for a while, and but I still didn't feel, I mean, definitely when in theater, I felt like completely,

Speaker 3 I loved just doing all the prep and all that, and feeling like completely immersed in the whole thing. Film, I always felt like,

Speaker 1 hello, you know, just sort of

Speaker 1 sorry, sorry, don't mean to just

Speaker 1 quickly stand in front of the camera and just sort of.

Speaker 1 What about, but

Speaker 2 an education, right? That was, was that the kind of the first thing that really kind of pushed you out into, I mean, it was an Academy Award nomination, right? Did it,

Speaker 2 was the change in climate,

Speaker 2 was it palpable for you?

Speaker 2 Was that an exciting thing or a nerve-wracking thing? Because a bunch of really cool stuff followed that.

Speaker 3 No, yeah, that was totally. I mean, that was a five-week shoot or something.
And I thought maybe it would be on in a couple of cinemas. And, you know, know, I had no expectations for that at all.

Speaker 3 And then we went to Sundance and it kind of turned into this thing.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, it was a big, it was a big shift. And I think I just, I regret not having as much fun as I should have done.

Speaker 3 I think I took it all quite seriously and was quite, and had a real imposter syndrome. You know, I'd be in rooms just thinking, like, what?

Speaker 2 the actual well is that but did that come from uh a sense of oh my god what i always hoped would happen is it seems like it's about to start or was it I had no plans whatsoever, this was kind of fun and now this has happened and now I'm expected to kind of make a career of this and be some big fancy actor?

Speaker 3 No, I think I definitely, it was all I wanted to do, but I think there was, in my mind, I was thinking, okay, good, right, I can get another job. You know, it was that.

Speaker 3 It was like, this is great because then,

Speaker 3 you know, the good part is that the directors are going to see this.

Speaker 2 And I'll bet you still feel like that, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 This profession, there's just no no guarantees yeah no idea whether you're going to be working 12 well i was going to yeah i was going to ask you that carrie like now with all of the incredible work that you've done isn't there some sense of like okay i think i can i think i'll be working or does that never go away i don't know i just think i think you always sort of

Speaker 3 you know you're always hoping that that one person sees it and then wants to hire you or do you know what i mean like you always feel

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 3 or that it's to someone's taste i don't think it ever does go away Do you watch your stuff? Do you watch your stuff? Do you know what? The only thing I've watched is Maestro.

Speaker 3 It's funny because I don't really.

Speaker 3 No, no, no. I've never seen, like, she said that came out last year.
I saw Promising Young Woman once.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You should check it out.

Speaker 2 Is it because you get self-conscious? Like, like, do you watch playback on set?

Speaker 3 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It fucks me up completely.
No, I can't. I can't look at anything and I can't look at stills.
I can't look at. Although, but Bradley was so like,

Speaker 3 you know, he wanted us to sort of have a sense of what we were making all the time. So I did.

Speaker 3 I watched stuff with him and I've watched a couple cuts of, I haven't seen the final, final cut of Maestro yet.

Speaker 3 But I will, and I, and I, and I want to. But with most things, no, I just.

Speaker 2 The progression of it is amazing. I mean, it was the first cut I saw was already incredible, but the way he shaped it, kept moving it, it was just, it never went backwards.

Speaker 2 It was always, and he's just, he's a great filmmaker.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is. I feel very privileged that you never watched anything and I got to watch Maestro with you then.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 3 And my husband watched it as as well, and he's watched it now twice, and he's, he's done. He doesn't like, you know, the sad parts.

Speaker 1 He can't watch the sad parts. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 It was so fun

Speaker 1 meeting you guys and meeting meeting Marcus, obviously.

Speaker 1 Tell us a little bit. I mean, how you're married to, like Jason said, you're married to a rock star.
I always think it's so funny.

Speaker 2 Marcus Mumford, Mumford and Sons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mumford and Sons.

Speaker 3 I don't know. The rock star thing always sounds so.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, it's true.

Speaker 3 Well, you know you met you must have did you meet him Jason when you were doing the video you did the video

Speaker 2 I don't think we met that day, but I met I met you guys at

Speaker 2 Austin City Limits

Speaker 2 at one point we went I was there for a radio head show I want to say

Speaker 2 and that was really really cool. Yeah, we had a blast too and that was a we did a video You know Sam Jones directed that Sam Jones directed the

Speaker 2 smartless dock yeah it was sedecis it was will forte

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 it was me and it was uh ed helms ed helms yeah and they played we played the band yeah they were the band

Speaker 2 in a very campy sort of uh uh

Speaker 2 we're doing some like we were the band shooting a video out in some barn and we were playing our

Speaker 1 instruments and just like yeah playing a bunch of grab ass yeah it was um ridiculous and hilarious yeah i loved it i know i loved it i love love it when Jay goes into that voice.

Speaker 1 Well, because we're in some

Speaker 1 of the comedic

Speaker 2 gist was that we're, you know, just

Speaker 2 a bunch of hicks playing guitar and having a good time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Were you as interested in music before you met him, or were you like, or was it, did it heighten it after you met? Were you like, oh, play the guitar in front of me. I want to know how it works.

Speaker 1 Like, or did you not impair that? Play your guitar in front of me.

Speaker 3 I always loved, I mean, you know, I wanted to do musical theater. I loved musicals and all those sorts of things when I was growing up.

Speaker 1 Do you sing?

Speaker 3 I can, I can, I'm like a choir, I can choir sing, you know, I can sing enough to hold a tune, but not good enough to do musical theatre, so that's why I kind of swerved into just straight acting.

Speaker 3 But I didn't, I remember seeing Marcus's band. Well, we were friends when we were kids, so we went to camp together.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, yeah, you guys were pen pals, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're pen pals?

Speaker 3 We went to camp together. We met when

Speaker 3 he was 10, I was 12. 11.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 we met when we were kids.

Speaker 1 Did you broke up then?

Speaker 3 We didn't, but I wrote in my diary that he was

Speaker 3 the nicest, the kindest person I'd ever met. And I gave him nine and a half out of ten.

Speaker 1 Wow. What a score.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 But I said,

Speaker 1 what score would you give him today? He's, he's, do you know what?

Speaker 3 He's getting up there. I'd give him a solid six.
But he's.

Speaker 3 But he, yeah, and I also wrote in my diagnostic wasn't boyfriend material. I mean, not that I'd ever had a boyfriend at that time, but I decided that he was not it.

Speaker 1 That's so crazy that you knew each other as you were kids, and now you're married.

Speaker 2 I know, and you stayed, you stayed pen pals for a while.

Speaker 3 We were pen pals for a couple of years, then we lost touch, then the internet happened, and we, God, the internet happened.

Speaker 3 We, yeah, um, and we started, we were both on Facebook for like six months, then we both left, so we touched base there briefly, um,

Speaker 3 And then we met again, yeah, when I was like 24.

Speaker 1 And we at that point, you guys were like, this is, I mean, we keep running into each other. We are destined to beat each other.

Speaker 3 Probably we should get married.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Did you guys ever have any conversations about how crazy is it that we both ended up doing public jobs and finding a really incredible level of success?

Speaker 3 Well, what's weird is that we also,

Speaker 3 not long after we met again as adults, we both worked on the Cohen brothers movie inside Lou and Davis and both independently were hired. Oh, hello, Rumi.
Sorry, someone's just come in.

Speaker 3 Just want to say hi.

Speaker 1 Should we hold?

Speaker 1 Just say hi. Hi, I can't eat breakfast.
Oh, oh, my God. Hi, guys.
Hey, Ruby. Hi, listener.
We live together.

Speaker 2 We have yesterday's guest sitting right next to today's guest.

Speaker 1 Emma Stone, Emma Stone.

Speaker 1 Emma, how are you feeling?

Speaker 3 I'm getting better. Okay, are you?

Speaker 3 Very, very sweet to let me be so close to her when she knows I'm here. So we are across the hall from each other.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's hysterical. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Did you get the chicken noodle soup?

Speaker 3 I got the chicken noodle soup, Sean. I didn't know how to reach out to you.

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't have to. We're doing it now.

Speaker 3 I have to show you a picture of it as it came up through the room. One second.
Sorry.

Speaker 1 I promise. I'm going away.
She was sick, so I sent her over some chicken noodle soup. I knew you would.

Speaker 1 When you said that you were going to, I knew you would.

Speaker 1 You didn't know she could get three of us.

Speaker 1 This is how it arrived.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. Let's see.
It was all over the place. I threw it in a.
It was

Speaker 1 a note. It showed up like this.
What's it? Oh, there's a note. Oh, that is so sweet.
It looks like a bowl of sick.

Speaker 1 It does look like a bowl of sick. It looks like somebody barfed in a bowl.

Speaker 2 I'm glad you didn't put our names on it, Sean.

Speaker 1 Where was it from, Sean? I was saying it looks like he barfed in a bowl.

Speaker 3 It's like I barfed in a bowl, but I loved it. Thank you, Sean.

Speaker 1 Sean, was it just from room service? Yeah, I think so, yeah. Check your bill because he might have just put it on your bill.

Speaker 1 Okay, bye, bye guys.

Speaker 1 Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 I'll be back in 20 minutes.

Speaker 3 I'll be at the end of a minute. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

Speaker 1 I hope so. That's so crazy.
This is my new nanny.

Speaker 3 She's nannying for me now.

Speaker 1 See, we just talked to her two days ago. I know, I know.
I thought I was doing this, and I was like, I'm nervous. So she's natural.
You're not nervous anymore. No, no, I'm fine.

Speaker 1 You know what? I wanted to know, because we haven't done this part of the interview process yet.

Speaker 1 How did we talk about you doing

Speaker 1 product and printes and doing all these things? But what was the thing that,

Speaker 1 how did you start? What was your thing where you weren't like oh, this is what I want to do?

Speaker 3 Do you know it's so funny? I said this to Kevin Bacon the other night

Speaker 3 I was in I was at this like tastemakery, you know,

Speaker 3 sure

Speaker 3 in New York for Maestro and he came with his lovely wife and I and they came over to say that they liked the film and I said you know you're literally it was seeing you do this one-man show in New York that was the trip that I so when I was about 14 I went to New York with my mum to go and see we saw Cabaret and we saw a play that he was in where it was a one-man show and it was at the Walter Kerr theatre and I watched it and I thought that's it that's like this is this is like a magic trick you know that he's doing this play for however long 90 minutes or on just completely on his own and that cabaret as well that trip that was when I thought right this is the the thing

Speaker 3 and I got to tell him which is so cool and then when I went back to New York and did the seagull when I was about 22 it was at the Walter Kerr

Speaker 3 yeah and there's this amazing line in the The Seagull where Nina in the second act she's talking to this writer that she's a budding actress and she meets this famous writer.

Speaker 3 It was played by Tuit El Edgifor in London and Peter Sasgaard in New York.

Speaker 3 And there's this, they, you know, they have this conversation and she's just sort of completely overawed by what a genius he is and how he creates.

Speaker 3 And at the end of the, and she falls in love with him.

Speaker 3 And at the end of the scene, he walks off stage and she's on her own and she sort of looks out over the lake, which is the audience, and she says, I'm dreaming. And I could never do it in London.

Speaker 3 For some reason, I just couldn't. I just always felt like such a a knob and I was just going, I'm dreaming, and then just walk off stage.

Speaker 1 And the director was always like, come on.

Speaker 3 And it was the first night at the Walter Kerr. And I looked out and I thought of the sort of 14-year-old me sitting in the stalls.

Speaker 3 And I said it, and it was the first time that I sort of really said it. You know, it was just, it was just

Speaker 1 cool.

Speaker 1 That literally just gave me goosebumps.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Was it what was the

Speaker 2 again in my crappy research? I stumbled upon something and I can't find it now. But

Speaker 2 what was the show where the curtain came down?

Speaker 2 Tell me this.

Speaker 1 Was this a good theater story?

Speaker 3 Well, I was going to say, Sean, this is my good theatre story.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I did this one woman show called Girls and Boys

Speaker 3 in 2018, and I did it in London, the Royal Court,

Speaker 3 and then I transferred it to this little theatre in New York.

Speaker 3 And in the show, I played this mother, this woman, and at the start of the show, I'm in front of this curtain, and I, it's a monologue, and then the curtain comes up in a blackout, and suddenly there's, you're in like someone's kitchen living room, and I had these scenes with these invisible children.

Speaker 3 And the play is very funny and then incredibly dark, and it's about 90 minutes where it just, there's blackouts in between scenes, and I just go back and forth in front of this curtain.

Speaker 3 And in New York,

Speaker 3 there's something, it was the first preview, and we got about, it was sort of about 20 minutes before the end of the play and it had gotten to the sort of quite serious part.

Speaker 3 And I did the scene with the kids, and then when the blackout was going forward to stand in front of the curtain, and by curtain, you know, we mean like a wooden metal kind of thing that comes down.

Speaker 3 And something went wrong with the mistiming of the curtain, and as I kind of came underneath it, it landed sort of on my head.

Speaker 1 On your head. The whole curtain, like a pipe.

Speaker 3 Well, it just sort of struck me, and then I shoved away from it, and it carried on going down, you know, because it just kind of.

Speaker 1 Because that thing doesn't light. That thing weighs it down.

Speaker 3 No, no, no. I mean, it's like a sort of wooden structure thing, so and it comes down quickly because it was a quick kind of change into the next scene.

Speaker 3 So, like, my hair was kind of fucked up, and I just sort of, it was unbelievably painful, but then the lights came up, and no one had seen it, so I, so it's not like someone had seen an accident, so therefore I could go like, oh, that hurts.

Speaker 3 So, I just carried on and did the rest with my hair kind of like, what?

Speaker 3 And then I, and then I got to the end of it and, you know, finished the play and walked off stage and just burst into tears. And I was hysterical.

Speaker 3 And I was also convinced that I was going going to die because I thought, you know,

Speaker 3 head injuries, concussion, blah.

Speaker 3 Went back up to my room. And I was, you know, it was this tiny, tiny theatre.
It didn't have a proper dressing room. It just had like a curtain, sort of one of those partitions and a bit of a curtain.

Speaker 3 And I was sobbing on the floor. And, you know, various people are trying to calm me down.
I was going, oh, really?

Speaker 1 I think it's really bad.

Speaker 3 And then someone from the theatre comes in and said, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 Bradley Cooper's just sitting just outside. And Bradley had come to the first preview and was sitting on the sofa outside.

Speaker 2 This was how many years ago?

Speaker 3 This was 2018. So this was, yeah.
And so, and then I said, oh, bring him in.

Speaker 1 And he, and he,

Speaker 3 and he came in and he just got down on the floor and like looked in my eyes and looked at my pupils and was like, right, we're going to the hospital. So we went.
And I was like, oh, you did?

Speaker 1 And he took you to the hospital? Yeah, he took me to the hospital. The first time you met Bradley, he took me to the house.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 We had met a bunch of times before. He'd come to see me when I did a play with Bill Nye because he's good friends of Bill.
And we have the same publicist. We'd like bumped into each other at stuff.

Speaker 1 But yeah, he was. By the way, he's really good at taking people to the hospital.
I just want to say that. I thought I hear.
I know. I thought that was good.

Speaker 1 He just took Brooke

Speaker 1 to the hospital last week. But I want to say, I don't know about you guys.
Carrie, I love when you talk and you're describing anything, you make anything,

Speaker 1 you could describe anything to me. I just want to call you.
Can we be friends so that you can just describe?

Speaker 1 I just want you to describe stuff to me. Have you guys met? No,

Speaker 1 we met at Bradley's, yeah. Yeah, but I just, I just love listening to you tell stories.

Speaker 3 I could just listen to you talk about can I can I just quickly tell you because I said at the beginning that I

Speaker 3 please what a massive fan I was of both of you and Arrested Development, but Sean

Speaker 2 Not so much.

Speaker 2 Sorry, was that not what you were going to say?

Speaker 3 That's exactly what I was going to say. No, big, big time fan.
And in and when I went, I went to Chile to meet the family. The restaurant.

Speaker 1 He goes, you go to Chile's once a week, right?

Speaker 1 Sean, you beat me to it.

Speaker 3 I went to Chile, Chile, the country, to go and meet the family of the woman I play in Maestro in Santiago.

Speaker 3 And I went there before we started shooting, what was meant to be a three-day trip, and I got COVID on my way out, so I was stuck there. So I had to stay another week and a half.

Speaker 3 And my kids were in New York with my mum.

Speaker 3 And it was, and I was, I mean, really, really horribly, horribly upset. So I literally couldn't leave my room.

Speaker 3 So I was in my room in Chile for, and I watched, for the maybe 50th time, Will and Grace Grace from the first episode of the first season all the way to the end.

Speaker 3 No, and that was that was what I, yeah, and that was what I had.

Speaker 1 Very sweet, Carrie. Thank you.
That's a single episode. Guys, what were you saying? What was your favorite episode? Sorry, tell Kerry, what is this Will and Grace? Was that a play? Yes, is it a film?

Speaker 1 It was a one-woman show.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Oh.
One man, one woman.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I love.
That's sweet, honey. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 No, really, I love it so much. Thank you.

Speaker 2 It's incredible. It is.

Speaker 1 It truly is.

Speaker 2 No, I'm serious. I was a big dork fan of yours before I met you.

Speaker 1 Jason, you came to like two or three shows, too. Yeah.
Then you came to the last, the very, very last show. Oh, yeah.
You went to the last one. Yeah, Jay was at the very last show.

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Speaker 1 And now back to the show.

Speaker 2 Now, I'm imagining, Carrie, that with your,

Speaker 2 you have a very exciting life with all the fancy places you get to go for your work, but all the fancy places you get to go for Marcus's work too.

Speaker 2 What is the, have you, did you meet the most impressive person

Speaker 1 in your work or when you were with him for his work?

Speaker 2 Like, who got you most starstruck? Because like actors always geek out around musicians and vice versa or athletes.

Speaker 2 What's been, who's been the coolest person you've met with Marcus?

Speaker 3 Springsteen was the coolest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's cool. By a long way.
I mean, not by a long way.

Speaker 3 I've met lovely people, but Springsteen made me go,

Speaker 3 I just, I just, and I don't think I could, I couldn't really function. I just sort of, you know, he was, it just ruins me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but going back to like the thing I asked you before,

Speaker 1 were you a fan of Marcus's music or that style or that genre? Or did he open you up to be like, oh, like, what did you listen to before, or was it the same then and now?

Speaker 3 No, I was like S-Club 7, Backstreet Boys, West Life.

Speaker 3 There was a brand of music that they used to call. I went to boarding school and I used to, the girls at school used to,

Speaker 3 like, my genre was Carrie Trash because I just listened to like

Speaker 1 pure pops.

Speaker 2 Wait, Backstreet Boys, was that Justin Timberlake or was that in?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's in sync. That was in sync.

Speaker 3 Backstreet Boys was, yeah, sort of crazy.

Speaker 2 But when you worked, didn't you work with Justin and Lou Ellen?

Speaker 3 And And inside Louis Davis, yeah, where I worked with Marcus.

Speaker 3 And that was the thing I was going to say, that if we had not met as adults in Nashville, which is how we did end up meeting, we would have met on that job because we both got hired

Speaker 3 independent of one another to do it. Because he did the music and I did the acting thing.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. So you didn't really listen to Mumford and Sons before you...

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 No, but I saw... So I went to a Laura Marling gig when I was like 19 at a sort of

Speaker 3 church in London and Mumford and Sons with the Support Act. It was one of their first ever gigs.
And when he came out, I remember thinking, oh, God, I knew a guy called Mumford.

Speaker 3 I went to camp with him, you know. But he was so tall.
And when I met him, he was tiny. And then he started singing.

Speaker 1 And I said to my best friend, Moff, who's sitting next to me, I went, oh, God, Moff is so shouty. Because it was very shouty back then.
And I think he's less shouty now.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. It was very shouty.
It was really funny.

Speaker 1 You're like, in my defense, it was very shouty.

Speaker 1 Carrie, be honest, how many Ace of Bass concerts have you been to?

Speaker 3 I never went to the concert, but I would have died to.

Speaker 1 I would have died to. Same, I would have gone with you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 What can you tell us about, because

Speaker 2 I would imagine you've had

Speaker 2 some pretty low-hanging fruit thrown your way because you're so successful. Like, hey, why don't you be the star of this crappy film? Or

Speaker 2 let's give you all the money to do this.

Speaker 2 You always pick these incredibly tasteful projects, whether it be the premise of it or the people that are involved with it.

Speaker 2 Tell us a little bit about what's the most attractive thing about a project for you. Is it the character? Is it the script? Is it the director?

Speaker 2 Is it the how do you go about picking all these great things and never picking any stinkers? It looks like a lot of discipline.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've been really lucky.

Speaker 3 I think I also,

Speaker 3 yeah, I don't know. I think largely big-time director, definitely, but within that, just well, do you know, my agent Tor, who's been my agent for almost 20 years she's like wonderful um

Speaker 3 and she has sort of she's sort of family and she when when an education happened and you know suddenly i was getting offered jobs a bit more you know yeah um she said look you're in this really rare part of an actor's career where you can you can you don't have to say yes to everything right and and that's a real privilege and whilst you're in that place you really shouldn't take a part unless you can't you know unless you can't bear the idea of someone else playing it so you've got this capital and it's yours yeah and if you can imagine someone else one of your contemporaries playing the part and thinking like well that's okay you know go and see it in the cinema with someone else right and being all right with it then she was like then don't do it but do you do you when you look at when you look at stuff do you think like oh this is gonna work or do you think no I have to do this because it really speaks to me and this is something where I can really I feel like I can there's something about it that I feel like I can express myself in a really way or whatever or do you think about the success of it like oh this will be a cool thing and people will think this is cool oh god no no no no I mean I generally have a bit of a kind of

Speaker 3 if it doesn't scare me it's not enormously attractive which is you know they're kind of masochistic I mean girls and boys when I did that the monologue I couldn't get through I couldn't get through the first page of a dress rehearsal until the first preview.

Speaker 3 I mean, I literally couldn't get on stage.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 3 Like, there was something about talking. Well, do you know what else it was? It was that the first sort of 45 minutes of the play was funny and that scared the shit out of me.

Speaker 3 Like I was, when I read it, it made me laugh and the idea of having being

Speaker 3 having failed by not making the audience laugh just felt, I mean I just couldn't. I mean, I could get out there and cry for England, but

Speaker 3 I think comedy is so hard.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the idea of going out and bombing in that way and people not laughing.

Speaker 3 And also the play required that. It needed the first half to be funny because the second half was just devastating.

Speaker 3 So I couldn't just make it, it would just be misery porn if it was just, I couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 And that's just

Speaker 1 porn.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 you must feel more confident about your ability to be comedic inside your

Speaker 2 skill set and your taste.

Speaker 2 In other words, like you're not trying to be funny doing broad stuff.

Speaker 2 You're being successfully funny playing characters that are eccentric or broken or flawed, like a promising young woman. I mean, that's a dark comedy that,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 it just seemed you were very confident with your dark comedic sensibility.

Speaker 3 I think with the theater thing, it was that like,

Speaker 3 I just needed to figure out who I was talking to. You know, there was that part of me that thought, what is the, you know, is this a convention for grief?

Speaker 3 Or what, you know, I just couldn't figure out who the audience was because I didn't have that other actor on stage with me to

Speaker 3 tell the, you know, to communicate with.

Speaker 3 So I was the biggest biggest block was like who are these people that I'm telling this thing to and then when I kind of figured that out and do you know what else I took my shoes off and suddenly when I was barefoot I could do it it was the weirdest thing really

Speaker 1 relaxing yeah I just the whole I thought it was just grounded and I was like oh okay so now now it makes and then it became my favorite thing I've ever done on stage and I absolutely loved it and I sort of mourned it for a long time I wasn't you weren't you blown away by the first play you did and then subsequently everything else weren't you blown away by the endurance that you have to figure out in order to do

Speaker 1 especially a one-woman show where it's just you and the energy that you have to find every single day of your life to do that at that time it's mad it's mad and it just gets impossible with kids because

Speaker 3 so you find yourself barefoot and pregnant yeah well i was pregnant on broadway when i did skylight with bill and um like almost seven months pregnant by the time i finished it and i and i've never been so and it was so funny because the baby would sort of respond to the applause

Speaker 1 you know

Speaker 1 I thought this was really setting us up for a problem

Speaker 1 but yeah you know you speak of

Speaker 1 what for you now now that you've I mean you've got three kids

Speaker 1 you've got as Jason said at the start you've got all this you know all the acclaim and respect that you could you could ever want doing what we do

Speaker 1 What for you is

Speaker 1 what does success mean to you now?

Speaker 1 Like, what is, what would you go like at the end of a day or a week or a month to you say like, yeah, you feel like great because you've had all this stuff and you've had all the things.

Speaker 1 Like what what do you look for now? What are the things that are what are the mountains that you want to climb sort of personally as a person?

Speaker 3 I don't know. I mean I feel increasingly just sort of

Speaker 3 unbelievably lucky we've got three healthy kids and we both get to do jobs that we really love, you know, and that's so that I think that gives you a lot, you know, that makes that takes away a lot of kind of regular life stress.

Speaker 3 You know, so many people have to work on jobs they hate, and you know, and so many people, you know, you know, you just see more and more of your friends and people around you, you know, sort of hearing stories of people's health issues or kids that have not, you know, and it's just, gosh, you think constantly, like, wow, we've managed to really swerve that stuff so far, touch wood, all that, like, you know, thank you, Lord.

Speaker 3 But it's, it just feels like that is in a happy, you know, healthy home life and also like the ability to work.

Speaker 3 And you know, whatever scale that is, whether it's giant films or whether it's theater or whether it's just, you know, but to be able to work and actually go and earn money doing something that you really, really love, it doesn't really need, there doesn't need to be any kind of trajectory for me.

Speaker 3 It's just, you know, that hopefully next year I'll get to make another film at some point that's good with all of us.

Speaker 1 Your chances are good. Chances are pretty good on that.

Speaker 1 Things are a little bit worse.

Speaker 2 Had you worked with a director that was also acting in the with you before Maestro?

Speaker 2 How did you enjoy that or not? And what was Bradley's style with that?

Speaker 2 Would he direct you during a take or would he wait until the end of it and be a director as opposed to giving you direction in character?

Speaker 3 I loved it. I loved it.

Speaker 3 He would do it. Well, he wouldn't do it like, well, he was basically Lenny from the minute you walked on set.
So, you know, he was in his

Speaker 3 whole thing dialogue, his dialect. He was chain chain smoking by the camera, directing everyone.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Just so my sister knows,

Speaker 1 he plays Leonard Bernstein. Bernstein? Bernstein, people playing.
Bernstein. Bernstein.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I kept getting it wrong and Bradley was so annoyed with me.

Speaker 1 And you play Leonard's wife.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I play his wife.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I loved it. It was, you know, because he would direct me not through sort of giving me verbal directions as in do this, do that.

Speaker 3 He would sort of mold the scene or play his role in a way that would affect mine, you know, so it would be more in the way that he would play Lenny that would affect my Felicia than actually sort of, but he also gave me like note notes, but

Speaker 3 a lot of it was sort of, I'd find us taking it in a certain direction because he had kind of pushed it that way through playing his role the way it was.

Speaker 2 Did any part of that seem interesting or attractive to you

Speaker 2 to do one day?

Speaker 1 Big no. No? No.
No. No.
Really? Just can't figure out how he does it.

Speaker 3 I can't figure out how anyone does it. I think it's, I mean, it's, I don't know how you do it.
It's just, yeah.

Speaker 2 But you've been on so many great sets with so many incredible directors. Like, I mean,

Speaker 2 I just, I don't know if I'd be able to say a word if I was performing for the Cohen brothers.

Speaker 2 You know, them alone would be, or Steve McQueen, or, I mean, these, these directors, you could cherry-pick from so many great ones and probably do an incredible job as a, as a director if you wanted to.

Speaker 3 I just don't, yeah, I don't have the heart for it. I think you have to love it so much because it's such an incredible amount of work.
I I think you have to absolutely love it to be able to do it.

Speaker 3 And I just don't have it. I just sort of feel like such a jobbing actor.
I just want to be surprised.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 while you're here doing press work,

Speaker 1 while we've got you, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 While we've got you, what are you going to do?

Speaker 1 Do you have time to go hang out while you're in LA or do fun things? Or is it all? Well, this is a trap.

Speaker 2 Carrie, telling her you're busy.

Speaker 1 You're busy. You're busy.
You're busy. I'm busy.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty for lunch. I get to go to the bathroom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm having an early breakfast tomorrow.

Speaker 3 No, you know, it's actually

Speaker 3 quite nice. Like, today I'm having lunch with...
So I'm doing this thing tonight for... Can I plug my charity?

Speaker 1 Yes, please. Oh, yeah.
Is this Alzheimer's or the Warchild?

Speaker 3 Yeah, Warchild. So this is not my charity.
I didn't found this charity, but I'm an ambassador for this charity. So tonight there's a dinner for like a variety dinner and

Speaker 3 they're kind of giving people

Speaker 3 prizes for whatever. So I have to make a speech, but we get $10,000 for Warchild.
And Warchild UK is a charity that I've worked with for about 10 years that looks after children in conflict zones.

Speaker 3 So, today I'm having lunch with Rob Williams, who's flown in for it. He's the CEO of the charity, and he is my absolute hero

Speaker 3 and has been an NGO worker for 30 years and runs this organization and travels all over the world doing amazing work.

Speaker 3 I mean, recently got back from Afghanistan where he was literally negotiating with the Taliban about women being able to go to work

Speaker 3 for Warchild. So, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, that has to be negotiated. It's astonishing.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's wild. But they, you know, obviously do incredible work and never more needed than now.

Speaker 1 That's unbelievable. And it's unbelievable that there are people out there doing stuff like that.
First of all, that you're involved with it is amazing.

Speaker 1 And there are people out there doing important stuff. And obviously, everybody's got their own thing.

Speaker 1 Sean was saying the other day, he couldn't find parking on Crescent next to the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so he had to end up.

Speaker 1 But everybody's got their things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that they put up.

Speaker 2 Is there a website, Sean, that we can donate to

Speaker 1 that you can donate to? Yeah, yeah, it's Sean Hayes that people can click on and then Carrie.

Speaker 2 Hang on, we'll get to you.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, go.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 dot, dot gov. So, but no, but Carrie, is there some sort of a website or if somebody wants to check out what's going on?

Speaker 3 www.warchild.co.uk. And they do amazing

Speaker 3 warchild.co.uk, or actually, children in conflict is the American wing of the charity. But

Speaker 3 it's a lot of trauma therapy. So it's kids who are in the middle of war zones helping them with art therapy and

Speaker 1 counseling to help them recover from what they see.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's amazing, amazing work. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What do you guys do that dumbs it down after you're finished doing your incredible smart work?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 3 lots of television.

Speaker 1 Lots of telling. Lots of telling.

Speaker 2 Now, this is reality television, or is it like?

Speaker 3 Because you know, I do a bit of reality television, but he he is passionate about below deck, which is

Speaker 2 below deck, which I can't go there, but he's he's that's I go there and then I feel like I need a shower afterwards.

Speaker 1 Who's deck?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no, low deck, below deck. Oh, yeah, below.
Oh,

Speaker 1 below deck, below deck. Sometimes Scotty and I play that.
Got it.

Speaker 1 And what do you guys just

Speaker 1 change who plays deck? Yeah. Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So you'll watch some TV.

Speaker 1 Watch some TV. Yeah.
Are Are you guys foodies?

Speaker 2 Do you like restaurants? Do you go over to friends' houses?

Speaker 3 We do friends' houses.

Speaker 3 We live, you know, we do quite, quite, not, not mega-outdoorsy, but quite outdoorsy.

Speaker 2 Wait, what do you mean, like camping?

Speaker 3 You guys go camping? Well, no, he goes camping with

Speaker 3 the kiddles. I draw the line at camping.

Speaker 2 Now, what does a camping look like? Is there like a fancy van that they sleep in or they or do they pitch a tent and do it for real?

Speaker 1 Does a tent, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's a real man.

Speaker 1 Or like near where you live or like outside the street?

Speaker 1 outside our house, you know. Oh, in the backyard.

Speaker 1 Never mind. I did that.

Speaker 2 I was sending the real man comment.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. Big tent.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's a large, large outfit. Oh, I feel like I need to defend his honor.

Speaker 3 It's a big tent.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 In a big field. You know, it's, yeah, legit.
Carrie,

Speaker 2 we are over time. We owe you five minutes of dollars.
That's true.

Speaker 2 Thanks for saying yes to doing this.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. Thanks for having me on this.
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 Best of luck with all of the chat and giggle sessions you're going to have for Maestro. It's incredible and well worth your talking about it.

Speaker 1 It's incredible. There's a scene, again, before we let you go, there's a scene when you're folding

Speaker 1 the tissue paper that, for me, is just like an absolute, just brought me to my knees. I couldn't believe it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So good. So, everybody, go see Maestro.
And also, one more time with the web address for the

Speaker 1 charity, please.

Speaker 3 www.warchild.co.uk.

Speaker 1 They need you right now. Yeah, they need you right now.

Speaker 2 And Sean, the one for the parking spots for the parking spots.

Speaker 1 Sean Hayes.

Speaker 1 That's just a half dress.

Speaker 1 Sean, go one really quick with your mobile number. Yeah, so it's 310.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Carrie, have a great

Speaker 2 day. Say hi to Marcus and

Speaker 2 speak to you for the reshoots. You know, we're going to do some reshoots on this.

Speaker 1 We'll check your availability.

Speaker 1 All right. We'll see you now.

Speaker 1 Slam it shut. Oh, do I? All right.
Bye.

Speaker 1 Jason, what a guest. Yeah.
She's

Speaker 1 what a guest you have. Oh, you did it.
You done good.

Speaker 2 She's like one of our great, great actors.

Speaker 2 I was just like, when I heard that Bradley was going to have her in the film, I just like, it made me, you know, when people put certain actors in certain projects, it just elevates.

Speaker 1 Elevates.

Speaker 2 And it makes,

Speaker 2 it says to the audience, okay, this is what the film is, and this is what the film isn't as well, right? It just kind of gives it this wash, this patina of like, oh, we're in good hands here.

Speaker 2 She's that when it comes to

Speaker 2 casting.

Speaker 1 Will, you got a movie that you're going to be doing with Bradley and you were telling me about going through some casting and

Speaker 1 it really does make a difference. Yeah, it's exciting.
It's exciting. And she, Carrie's one of those people who does, like you say, kind of raises it and then

Speaker 1 over-delivers. And I say, I shouldn't say over-delivers because it sounds negative, but she's so

Speaker 1 she comes to my house and delivers stuff, and she always brings extra stuff.

Speaker 1 She brings too much, she overstates.

Speaker 1 How about that? She and Marcus met, they were pen pals. Yeah, that's wild.
Like that they met friends in camp, they were friends in camp, pen pals. I mean, that's yeah, I wrote a couple um good jokes.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, no, Sean's got a couple good ones from the other day, please.

Speaker 1 Hey, do you know what happened to the cow that was lifted into the air by a tornado? No,

Speaker 1 it was an utter disaster.

Speaker 1 Sean, what was the one?

Speaker 1 I have a belt. Oh, Jay, I have a belt.

Speaker 2 Will you killed me the other day about the cataracts?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It's not my joke. I heard that somewhere.

Speaker 1 Well, you can't say it here, but it's a funny one.

Speaker 2 Sean.

Speaker 1 My other one was

Speaker 1 I have a belt made out of $100 bills.

Speaker 1 It's a waste of money.

Speaker 1 Come on. Oh, I got a lot.
I heard a couple of little chuckles.

Speaker 2 Boy, if you could do one right now, the third one, and that there's a buy in it, that would be really impressive.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
So what did the dad buffalo say to the kid buffalo on its first day of school?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Bye, son.

Speaker 1 Bye.

Speaker 1 Bye, son.

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